Test Match Special - TMS Top 10: Ashes moments
Episode Date: January 1, 2026From Nathan Lyon dropping the ball at Headingley to Shane Warne's 700th Test wicket. From Steve Smith's century on return from his ban to Steve Harmison's first ball wide at the Gabba - what is the u...ltimate Ashes moment? Isa Guha, Sir Alastair Cook, and Jonathan Agnew debate their top 10 Ashes moments.
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Hello and welcome to Ashes Top 10 on the TMS podcast
where we'll be ranking the greatest individual moments in the men's ashes.
Winning or losing, over or innings.
Who has taken the game by the scruff of the neck to help their side?
I'm joined once again by two men who have lived Ash's moments
from either from the crease or from the commentary box.
Sir Alistair Cook and Jonathan Agnew.
People always forget my one knot out in the Ashes test match of 1980.
at Old Trafford.
I don't because you told me about...
I'm an Ashes winner as well, you know.
Either from the crease or the commentary box.
You're both from the crease and the comedy.
I don't because you told me so many times about your one not.
There you go.
I'm an Ashes winner as well, thanks very much.
Jack Leach, eat your heart out.
So the greatest Ashes moments we've been asked to rank are...
Income Stokes.
He drives through the covers.
And there you go.
Steve Smith in his return test match.
after a year's ban from the game
has scored his 24 test century
in goes lion
Bowles reverse sweep field of field
it over there no no no he's set off
oh no lions dropped it
Bowlin Bowling Bowles
and that's egg and court
caught that third slip
by Lavin's
and he's just not going to stop
and Flintov goes roaring in again
he's there he bowls to Ponzing oh my word
he's caught behind is he there Biss he is
he's caught behind
A FABILUS Overson from the far end.
Bowles the first ball of the series.
Oh my word, it's gone straight to second slip.
What a horrible start.
Walks in now, on a hat-trick to bow to Malcolm.
Malcolm pushes forward and his cord at your leg, is he?
Or did it come off the face?
Yes, he's out.
He comes forward, plays out the offside,
big every quick single cratch.
I've got to hit them.
They could have probably run out.
Run out. A marvellous piece of fielding by Gary Pratt.
It's broad coming in and bowling to Vodges.
Oh, he's brilliantly caught.
Brilliant.
That is an outrageous catch by Ben Scopes.
I can't warn bowels.
And he's got it.
There it is.
He's got it.
Horn has taken his 700th wicket and Strauss walks disconsolately away.
Steve Smith scores a century on return from Sandpaper Gate.
Nathan Lyon drops the ashes as Stokes secures an iconic
headingly win. Scott Boland takes six for seven at the MCG, Freddie Flintosh's infamous over
at Edgebaston 2005, Jimmy Anderson's perfect response to Mitchell Johnson's sledge, Steve
Harmerston opens the ashes with a wide that misses the cut strip. Shane warns hat trick at the
MCG in 1994, substitute Gary Pratt runs out Ricky Ponting, Ben Stokes' flying catch as
Stuart Broad runs riot at Trent Bridge, and Shane warn's 700th test wicket. Well,
we kicked off with Alistair last time
first of all
is there anything on there that's missing
I guess are you going here
you're off your long run
backstage
Steve Orr's century 2002 should be in there
because his career was going up in flames
and so for me the last ball of day
bang it was Australia's captain
that for me
was one of the great
ashes moments
so that I think that should be in there
Ball of Century
Ball of Century that might get a mention
sure he should be in there
It's surprising, but yes, that's not in there.
But are these just, are we just ranking these moments?
Because what about Chris Tremnet taking the wicket in 2011?
Mitchell Johnson's first baller at Sydney.
Sydney, or even went that moment when the team won the Ashes in 2011,
first time for 20 years?
Basically, there's a lot of moments.
Who chose he?
Well, no, these definitely aren't mine.
They were handed to me.
Don't blame me.
Stuart Broad's first bowler at Adelaide.
You love that story.
The longest first baller in test.
Test history.
Jack Leach's one run.
Yeah, I mean, when does this start?
We should probably say 1995 because...
That takes out of all of the century.
I like what you're doing.
Like what you're doing.
Okay, let's go, shall we?
Agas, we'll start with you.
10 to 6.
Okay, well, number 10, I have got, I'm afraid,
the Jimmy Mitchell Johnson sledging thing
because that, well, okay.
I mean, it was amusing.
It's funny.
It's a good clip, babe, is it?
Yeah, you're a bit quiet now.
mate, you know, not getting anywhere against bank on him out.
I mean, you know, yes, it's amusing.
But he's at number 10.
Warren's Ash's Hattrick.
Now, people say, come, are Hattrick and the Ashes?
Yeah, yeah, it was.
And, of course, I was there.
DeFratus, Gough, and then Big Devon at the end.
So, surely, if it wasn't Shane Ward, like, Siddles Hattrick,
I mean, actually comparing Bassman.
On his birthday.
On his birthday.
He got himself, he did get Matt Pryor and Brody out, so probably quite similar to...
I mean, they're not big scalps, these that Shane...
Darren Goff.
Shane nipped him.
Van Gogh's. Oh, what have we heard me
to speak about?
Van Gogh's Sydney.
Yeah, when they bowled for hours, didn't they?
Oh, producers just come in here.
He hasn't heard any of our preamble.
No, he edited out.
Probably just as well.
No, so that's why I have got the hat trick at, I mean,
and Ashley's hat trick is brilliant,
but I've got it at nine because it was the end of the game.
England were absolutely frazzled.
And yes, it was Defratus, Goff and Devin Malcolm.
Now, the one number eight,
I could have put this higher because we now know rather more detail
about Shane's seventh-hundredth wicket,
which was Andrew Strauss,
wasn't it?
And how he'd deliberately moved the field
and how he'd actually told Glenn McGrath
as he'd turn around,
they're going to move that field there,
and what Strauss is going to do
is going to try and knock it away into that gap there
and I'm going to bowl him.
And Glenn at mid-off goes, oh yeah, mate.
And it happened.
Next ball.
And so if you watch the replay,
Shane runs around a circle waving his finger
and goes straight to Glenn McGra
points out and he said,
I told you, I told you, I told you, I told it.
Great stuff.
And actually Andrew didn't know
because Andrew, I talked to him about it,
said, well, I wonder why he put that field.
He just took that, you know, mid-wicket for a left-hand against a wristpin.
He's got to be there, isn't he?
From round the wicket, he's got to be there.
But he moved him, and the whole thing was a plot, and it came off.
So that should be a great story.
It should be higher than eight, really.
But then Scott Boland coming, we've never seen him before.
He took six for seven at the MCG.
I mean, you know, great story.
So that's why I've got him there at number seven.
And Steve Smith, again, I mean, it's a wonderful story to come back.
so much pressure on him after the sandpaper business
which frankly he should never have been involved in
he should never allowed to have let that happen
so all of that frankly he brought upon himself
but to come back from that and to somehow block it out
I don't know Steve very well I've into him a lot but he always strikes me
as quite sort of nervy kind of agitated you know he's always moving isn't he
fidgety and yet he could
mentally psychological can block all that stuff out he could block all that stuff out he
could block out the Hollistern, all the abuse he was getting, and score 100.
So that's a pretty tough performance, isn't it?
Well, cricket is his game.
It's his life.
I mean, you look at players across history, and you know that there are players that have, you know,
the great ability to be able to enjoy playing the game, but also recognize that there's
stuff outside playing the game as well.
And, you know, he tried to do that in that period.
He was out of test cricket, started playing the guitar, and also.
sorts, but you know that it's 24-7 for him.
So I think there was an element of relief for him, for his family, the Australians behind him,
and actually probably a lot of the English fans as well who had been booing him
all the way to the Queen's.
Well, he was booed badly, wasn't he?
I mean, he really was when he walked out to bat.
I mean, he was very, very hostile.
I mean, he could, he blocked it out.
I mean, he could say fair play.
You see, and he served his time, you know, I mean, that's to be said, isn't it?
He was out of the game.
He served his time, comes back and does that.
However, it's only number six for me.
Okay.
Alistair?
I don't often agree with Hager's.
But I did agree with the clickbait of Jimmy and Mitchell.
Number 10.
Great little moment, but it can't be an all-time classic.
Scotty Berlin's six for seven.
I've gone for number nine.
Basically because...
You're such a batter, aren't you?
No.
Yeah.
Was the series still alive at that stage?
You know, like an iconic moment, six or seven.
No.
I think the game, it'd already been done.
Is this COVID?
Is this COVID? Was it the COVID?
So it doesn't actually count?
Broadie's told us it doesn't count that one.
So that's why it has to be slightly lower on my list.
Brilliant achievement for Scotty Bowland.
Obviously, six or seven doesn't happen ever, really.
But in a COVID match, it doesn't count.
So that's why it's number nine.
Warns Hatrick.
I'm going again at number eight for the fact of,
the game was done
I'm pretty sure
and was done
I mean I'd have a chance
for hat trick against those three as well
so I'm going to have to go
that unfortunately
there's probably
no
as we spoke a little earlier
and our Jack
is back the producers back in the room
bigger hat tricks
and more important hat tricks
in the ashes since that time
which could be well ahead of that one
I'm saying that a smile on my face
everyone by the way
so joking and then I've actually gone
for Harmison's wide
at Brisbane at number seven
Oh, come on.
You had to be there.
I was.
I was at short leg.
If I was standing at a silly point, you'd have hit me.
Of course he were there.
Yeah, I was there.
And you still get number seven?
Do you know why I'm going for a number seven?
Did you say anything after that moment?
No, silly.
Do you remember the crowd?
Yeah, I do remember everything.
I've had two moments at Brisbane.
That moment.
And then obviously when Straussie got out in the first over.
It's great to point.
When he hit Ben Hilton else to Gully or point to everyone's third ball.
And I'm pretty sure there was no one else out there.
It was just me.
And then the rest.
Because the umpires go,
me together. The Australians are Cockerhoove, and I'm pretty sure
because only... That was the first ball. That was all the
build-up, all the hype, everything, it waited
all this time for that and he ran
up and bowed that thing. But then
there's still so many other
times that you can
influence the game for that
one ball. Do you know what I mean? After
that one ball, it happened, it was a wide,
it slipped out of his hand. And I know
they won't lose Series 5-0, and it's really easy.
But it's really easy then to go, that
one ball cost us every. But I mean...
I think set a tone, because Brisbane
Well, you then have to think about Rory Burns, Mitch Stark.
Yeah.
Yeah, but you say it's...
Darren Goughby and Muggles later.
But I just...
I think we read a little bit too much into it.
It's too easy for us as journalists and broadcasters in the media.
That one ball was thinking, well, well, actually then every first ball or whatever happened in 2010-11, Straussie cutting in there,
and then Australia won the series.
Do you know what I mean?
Or Sat Crawley hitting the first ball for four.
That was a big moment.
Yeah, was it?
But it doesn't...
It's just one of...
Or Joe Rue...
Actually, Joe Roo, if we're talking about that moment,
Joe Rue, trying to play the reverse sweep
of a thing, I'll talk of another moment.
But, like, it's one ball, such an isolate into it.
I love it.
It was so deflating, though.
Well, yeah, but then if you don't...
If you...
You listen to two commentary.
Listen to my commentary, listen to Jim's commentary on ABC, the difference.
Have you watched the next over?
The over after?
The other six balls.
Well, I was commentated on them, presumably, but I forgot about them.
I was still in tears.
I know, but what happened?
There could have been three drafters there
and Langer could have played a miss.
I don't know.
And I was still at short leg, I still can't remember.
But I get your point.
I just think, I just thought, do you know what?
It's one ball.
I love Harmy and the poor blois every time I ever hear.
Anyone I'm talking about Steve Harmson.
It's about that one ball.
And it must be horrible.
You can't remember for that.
So that's why it's going down a bit lower.
And I've got Steve Smith returning for number six.
Just for all the reasons you said.
And when you walk out as a batter in those moments,
when all the attention is on you,
For whatever reason you find yourself in there,
it's a really uncomfortable place.
Even if you're the biggest peacock in the world,
even the guy who wants the centre of attention,
I just think it must have been horrible.
So then for anyone to then deliver a skill,
that's not just one ball skill.
That is however many balls it took him,
200 balls over four,
we'll say four and a half hours
of batting in the concentration like that
with the crowd on your back.
And in both innings.
I know.
I just an extra,
he hasn't written that in there,
but I didn't want to tell him
he got under the next innings as well.
But I just think for that as a moment, as a player,
I admire something who can do that.
And that's why he's quite hypermissible.
Can I tell you one more Harbison story?
Please.
Well, after it all...
It might be edited out, but go on it.
After it all had a go at Brisbane about it, you know,
and said so much, you know, whatever it was.
But we did. It was a big story, obviously.
Of course it was.
We moved to Adelaide and went in the same hotel as the England players,
and I'm on something like the 10th floor,
press the lift, and it came down from, like, the 12th floor.
Door opened.
There was one person.
standing in it. It was Steve Harbison. The door closed. And I just go down 10 floors in the lift with Steve.
I don't know what to say to him. He was clearly looking at me thinking,
oh, you're things you've said about me. It was of those awful moments.
So nothing was said for 10 floors.
He had his bowling boots in his hand. I was tempted to say, off the net, Steve.
There was no.
No, it's absolute, 10 floors.
I'm trying to actually get on that game now on the internet and just see whether you can actually see what happened in that
first over. I'm not on the right
website. I'm sure you probably could but I mean... We also
don't have time on this podcast, too. No, good.
Just shut me out and then I'll just... Go on. What's yours?
I'm going to go. I'm going to go. Purely for Bowler's Union
and for the reason of
not wanting Steve Armisen to be remembered for this.
Because actually, before...
So you've done it in a positive way?
Yeah, I don't...
I like it. I don't think it should be a big moment.
That's interesting. Okay. That's good.
I could have that.
Just to have interest, Alistair, what is that feeling when you're out in the middle, boxing day test, 90,000 people, you can't hear yourself, how are you feeling inside?
I actually don't think the boxing day test match is as big as the first one.
But I look at anyone who performs on the first day of that series, in particular with the bat, because you only have one chance.
Your senses are just so much more heightened for that day.
are all the build-up you've you know you've been picked on the tour but this tour or any
tour whichever that date of the 16th of november or the 20th of november it's been in your mind
for about 12 months and everything is building up like you try and try and not to do it in the
summer before think about the ashes but it happens every like even this the last summer we've
just done this india series wow it's been good preparation for the ashes you know it's all
it's things so those players as much to say it's about winning against india in that series
It's still there.
So everything is more heightened.
The crowd, that buzz is unbelievable.
It's one of the things I don't miss, but I do miss because your whole body is alive.
It's full of adrenaline.
It's full of anxiety.
It's full of a thing.
The one thing after,
that's why you say back to Boxing Day,
you ask about the Boxing Day test match.
Yes, it's good.
But you've kind of suddenly realized after day one of Brisbane or wherever the first
test match, you've got over that.
You realize it's still just to get another game of cricket.
But that first day is really special and really uncomfortable as well.
I'm just imagining what Steve Armisen would have been thinking at the top of his mark.
Oh yeah.
I mean, it's a big thing with, like, Hillfinney has bowled that ball or I faced it a couple of times.
Yeah, it is varied.
No matter how mentally strong you're meant to be or mentally aware of what's about to happen.
And I think I faced the ball twice, I think, first.
One in 2013 and one in, I don't know, I'm in 15.
I can't remember 15, but I did Brisbane in 17, 18.
and David Warner, like, I think I got off the mark third board.
He said, it's pretty cool that, and it was.
It's like, and I'll remember that moment.
Oh, he didn't sledge all the time, then.
Not all the time.
I think it was past that.
I was a bit too old just sledge that.
Great insight.
Thank you for that.
Anyway, Harmison at number 10 for me.
I've got Gary Pratt running out Ricky Ponting as number nine.
Oh, that's quite controversial.
Same sort of reason.
I just think there were much bigger moments that have happened,
And although that was a great moment.
It was funny, though.
It was very funny.
I mean, that was a great moment.
In 2005, when that happened, everyone was just like,
yeah, it was.
Because Ricky's reaction.
He had to go at Duncan Fletcher.
I think it was the reaction we made, isn't it?
And also, we're looking about that iconic series.
It was an important runout as well.
It was.
Yeah, they were getting back into the game, weren't they, Australia?
And it's Ponting.
The opposition's captain, their best batter.
And the fact they had already been moaning
that the basically the bowler's bowled their spell
and went off for the three overs
and basically Gary Pratt was on all the time.
But it was, you know,
it's, I think it's a brilliant feeling,
but also quite a significant moment
in that series as well.
So that's what I've got it a bit higher up.
When I think about big moments,
I'm thinking about like on the more positive side.
You're putting then the sledging ahead of that.
Just one, an off.
Just imagine like how many one off things have been set
which haven't been repeated up,
which is compared to one arm,
I'll run out hitting one stump
with the Australian captain.
That's true.
I think that one's a little bit like that.
Maybe I am revising that one.
Maybe I am revising.
I've got Jimmy against Mitchell Johnson at eight.
More so because
the Aussies in Australia
are so arrogant, aren't they?
That's a fair point.
To have Jimmy be able to get one back,
I think that was quite a good moment.
The reason I had that at a low as well,
we lost that game.
That was the one we lost.
It was, yeah.
So that's kind of like Brody didn't count that one we forgot about.
But yeah, I do like your point about any time you get one up on the arrogant Australians.
Which I guess you could say is number nine as well.
But anyway, I've got Warns, Ashes Hattrick at number seven because it was his arena.
And again, we're talking about the theatre, the emotion, the drama, very special moment.
I've also, we've gone all the sixes for the last podcast and this one.
Smith returning from Sample.
Did you do what I do on this list?
I started with my top two and then my bottom two
and then just fiddled around with the other list
and then suddenly...
I think that's basically what happened, yeah.
But yeah, just the fact that he was booed to the crease,
he'd been battered by the media to be able to stand up and do that.
You could feel the tension and almost how much he'd been thinking about it
prior to the actual match.
He'd been thinking about that for two years to get that moment.
It's a really good point, actually.
To get that moment to prove himself once again and almost,
That redemption moment.
Was that his first game back from the band as well?
Or had he played another, had he played test matches before that?
It was his first test match back.
Extraordinary.
He was so exposed, wasn't he?
In tears on the telly, I mean, you know, the Holly's stand is pretty cruel.
Crucky, they did rip into him.
And also, going on this before saying about that date in your mind,
first death in ashes, that date would have in his mind as soon as his band
had been announced and how when he,
He would have known that for two years, even bigger buildup.
Yeah, 16 months, March to August 2019.
But he's an unbelievably special player, though, isn't he?
So it doesn't actually surprise me that he could do that.
Not many people could.
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Aggers, let's go your 5 to 3.
Five to three.
Okay, well, I see, I've got Pratt running out, Ponting at number five.
Just because it was just, I mean, we've been 12th man.
We've been 12th man.
Actually, it's not an easy thing to do.
You suddenly walk into a game that's taking place.
You're not part of it yourself.
Wait a second.
Alistair, have you been 12th man before?
Not very often, but we're saying he was actually on all the time anyway.
Yeah, most of the time.
But it is not an easy thing to do because you don't feel part of the game.
And just that the 12th man.
should come on and he was on legitimately because
Simon Hughes was off and finished
Simon Hughes
Sorry
Simon Jones is off
Oh Simon Hughes has done well to play on
That's got to have you got to hate that in there
That's pretty
Simon Jones is off legitimately
It never came back on again didn't they
So he was actually legitimately on the field
So anyway
He's at five for me
Four
Yeah Trent Bridge again
Brilliant catch by Ben Stokes
I mean it all happens so fast
I was on I was commentating that one
And it's one of the
those where I wasn't quite sure who the fielder was because it all happened so quickly
and because it was such a brilliant catch you had to name the fielder and it's one of those
we're just almost buying time with a sentence to try and just waiting to see I thought it was
Stokes but wasn't quite sure it happened so quickly and the ball was actually it was behind him
it had gone it was incredible it was absolutely superb and you know Stuart's face and everything
I've seen that incredible spell.
And then, yeah, number three, well, this
this really is, I guess, my favourite moment, actually,
if I'm honest, is Lyon missing that run out?
Because he said some pretty ugly things over the years as well at Brisbane
before test, oh, we're going to finish some careers
and all that sort of stuff.
So I've always been a bit negative about Nathan Lyon.
So that he dropped that.
But he should have run him out by yards.
I mean, it was just the game over, wasn't it?
And then there was the unfortunate business of the LBW to follow up afterwards.
You know, it was all of that.
So I have got Nathan Lyon dropping the ball
and failing to run out Jack Leach at number three.
The best thing about that whole chat
was that you were giving a bit of insight into commentary there,
aggers, and just how we basically blag it.
Well, you buy a little bit of time, don't you?
So what you do actually, yes, you switch your attention from the fielder
to the bowler from a moment.
Look at the bowler's face while you're thinking,
come on, let's have a little.
You're buying five seconds, aren't you?
and that's why he's the best everyone
Alistair
I've gone
Shane worn 700 wicket
I've never heard an atmosphere like it
you know very early on in my career that was
I was already out at that stage
of course I was around
I was watching the game
and just never heard a noise
like 90,000 people shouting
warny warning it was incredible
as you keep saying it was his back garden
it was his Melbourne boy
just the first time
I've ever really seen
hero adulation outside of I suppose
India but for someone doing
something which I didn't think was possible to do
like 700 wickets as a leg spinner in Australia
so I thought that was an incredible moment
there I've gone the
I've gone the Gary Pratt
four just because he played so many times
and it's great to see Ricky Ponting
getting so stressed about it when he's walking off
I just think I just like it makes me smile
It just makes me smile
And the fact that probably
Obviously I've played again
A couple of times I've played against Ricky Ponting
He's such a good player
And he's normally scoring runs
He's abrasive
He's great off the field
On the field
He plays cricket
He plays cricket actually probably as you should play cricket
Absolutely hard as nails on it
You know, nice as I've talked about it since
Have you talked about it?
Has anyone dared bringing up with him
No
I know I might do
I might do
I would like to have a beer Ricky
And I've got number three
I get the feeling he'd be probably a little bit
Surely he's fine now.
Not wanting to talk about it.
You think?
Surely now, it's 2005.
Yeah.
20 years ago.
Surely he's fun.
I'm sure he's on a bit of therapy since.
Yeah, possibly.
And then I've gone for the flint off over at three
just for the skid of the bowling.
I thought it was just absolutely fantastic.
A bloke at the peak of his powers,
Bonn is one of the best bats in the world.
obviously getting Langer out early on
first ball, second ball, whatever it was
no ball and then the extra ball getting the wickets
and just imagining how loud
the holliestown would have been
I wasn't there but just the atmosphere would have been
unbelievable as it was cricket was gripping the nation
and just on a purely skill based
over
there can't be many better overs than that bold
and if there was I'd like to see it
I'm sure Geoffrey would have said the over
that he faced against holding was
as good and I'm sure it absolutely was
but that for pure over
it was quick
absolutely a far frighteningly quick
yeah yeah steaming in
so that's my five to three
okay I've gone with the
Stokes catch and Broad
815 at 5
just again
theatre at the moment
when you're up against Australia
you want to continue and
he massively got on a roll
straight abroad how often do you
manage to do that against Australia usually
usually you're thinking there's a partnership coming
and it just never came
and then that ridiculous piece of fielding
from Ben Stokes
and then the
kind of half
surprise celebration
from Stuart Broad and I remember that going viral
around the grounds
that summer so yeah for that moment
I think that was pretty special
I've got
Shane worn 700 test wickets
number four
again pure theatre
MCG
his backyard, showman in action.
So I did have this at number two.
But I've actually gone with Scott Boland a bit higher out than you guys.
Just purely because...
Were you there?
I was there.
And I still have Mark Howard commentary ringing in my ears.
Build the man a statue.
Six at the G.
Six at the G.
Build a man a statue.
Six for seven.
and it was just absolute carnage
but also because he was the kind of unlikely hero
came out of nowhere
but the adulation he got when he went down to Bay 13
was just so heartwarming
and I think was a real moment in time for Ashes cricket
and also I suppose he's unexpected hero as well isn't it
which adds to the story in terms of if he's always been behind
you know the great trio boulders of Hayes would come in and stuck
so then to get a chance
and then to blow them out of the water.
And he bowed beautifully too.
He really did.
I mean it was unplayable
while I was watching it
he just kept coming in.
Maybe as an iconic moment
I could have been hiring on the set show.
I mean certainly in recent times
it's one of the best moments.
Also for the fact that
you know second Aboriginal man on record
to represent Australia at a test level
and he wins the Johnny Muller medal
who was the player of the series
on the Aboriginal tour back in England
in the 1800s
so I think
for all those reasons
it all coming together
for him I think that was
just a really special moment
in Ash's cricket
Agreed
Two and one
So Agas to you
Oh well you see this is where
We're very different here
Because I'm afraid
I've got harm me at number two
We've just
We've talked about it
But just the impact of that ball
Jim's reaction on ABC
My reaction on BBC
It just said everything
Jim kind of
Just laughing
And look at this
It has a shambles
and me go, oh my God, what's he done?
You know, he's got that sort of reaction, you know.
It just felt, it just looked as if England were really nervous
and kind of intimidated and, you know, it's quite hostile place to gabberism.
It just gave the impression that Harmie was really, you know.
It might have been.
Yeah, I think he probably was.
Anyway.
Which is quite understandable, it's not, doesn't it?
Or did the ball just slip?
But it went to Flint up.
Well, it went in quite a reasonable place.
No, I've watched it.
I mean, Agers, you would know, like, when you feel like you haven't got control of your body.
Yeah, it's horrible.
And you're bowling.
Yeah.
And you're in the arena.
It sort of pushed it.
It was...
That tells me he was full of anxiety.
Yeah.
It was a really nervous ball.
And I can't watch it because I'm like, oh.
I need to go and watch the next other six sports.
I do.
I do that as in just out of interest.
You can go and watch this evening.
Good luck.
So I've got him there at number two because it just...
And England's record, the first ball that they bowled at Brisbane, just down the years,
Well, first balls happened at Brisbane.
It's been so bad.
And that was just in that catalogue.
And then number one, yeah, it's that flint off over because, again, I was...
It definitely helps when you're there.
And particularly, it helps when you're commotating too, and I was for that over.
And that commondry box at Edgebaston, you were right in the game.
It was a different one that we have now.
And you were lower, and you were kind of in it.
I mean, it was just hard to explain, but you were like almost over the boundary edge.
So you could almost reach out and touch Flintoff, you know,
who is turning from our end and running in.
it was a fantastic over
and at Ponting again
Key Man and that match was so important
after losing the first game
all of that there's all that stuff kicking off
there was Ponting having put it in
there was his row with worn
there was McGraw and his tennis ball
all of that stuff
and this over which is just
brutal over
wonderful fast bowling
and one of the finest players in the world
hopping around all over the place frankly
So I've gone
I've misread it as well
I don't have to put my hands up and misread the thing
because I actually thought it said
broad his spell
rather than just stokes his catch
You got to read the question
Cookie, you're asking rubbish at exams
I'm actually sure
Well I was
But I still think it was that too
To be honest
So I actually do think it does say
So I actually had that as my number one
Because 8 for 15
So I'm actually going to now change the rules
The 8 for 15
I just wasn't
I mean you know
We were one
Two one in the Ashes
From the series
A little bit set
the scene
Mark Butcher said
you're going to watch
this series
behind the sofa
because England
have got no chance
and we were
two on up
after a great game
at Edgeburston
win the toss bowl
and within
No Jimmy
Jimmy is injured yet
within an hour and a half
we had won the ashes
and as a captain
who'd lost it 5-0
and all the fallout
from there
to have pretty much
done it by quarter
to 1
quarter to 1
that summer
it felt like it was
It was almost predetermined that you were going to win it.
Well, we went one-il up at Cardiff, where none expected to do.
Then we're hammered at Lords.
Everyone's, there we come.
And then we just had two great games.
I had a fortnight of Bowling out cheaply both times,
borne it around a bit.
And, yeah, but I mean, I did not that I slept well after that day at all
because I thought, Donby, the captain who can see bowled out of a side out for 60.
And I think we're at 2.40 for four and really got a brilliant 100.
But, you know, we're going to win the game.
But again, as there.
So that, for me, was, has to be.
the mind number one, the fact that the emotional attachment I had of that and the 5-0
before, and I had the spell rather than the catch-catch unbelievable part of the spell.
So sorry, Jack, I've changed the rules.
And I've gone line dropping the dashes, as we call it.
What a moment.
I want to say it was my first commentate test match I was commentating on.
I might have commentated on some one day.
It was pretty short.
Yeah, I remember it was your early days of you.
It was very early on.
And I actually, I could see it building up.
and not that I'm an experienced broadcaster at all
but Agas did say to me
just think about what you might say
when it got a bit close
and just allow it space
I don't know when he said it
he definitely said that to me
I try to get out of that stint
because I was so nervous
about messing up my words
I do anyway
and so I offered Vaughney to do it
because you know you get time slots
you get 20 minutes last or half an hour
and I knew it was going to have to finish
I was like, no, Vaughny, you do it, you do it.
Because I did want to mess it out.
So I had the run out where all my literally brilliance came in
where I just shouted, no, no, no,
as I could see what was happening before he dropped the ball.
I shouted, no, no, no.
So that's not adding much to the listeners,
the same word three times.
No, I remember listening to that going, that's brilliant.
Well, I mean, I was just, and also, when you're,
I was just out of the side, I was so emotionally attached to the side.
I genuinely was emotionally attached.
Like now it's seven, eight years.
Still good friends of the players,
but nowhere near as emotional about the England cricket team,
just as relationship.
So that was one.
And then when the moment happened...
What about Glenn, though, by the way?
Glenn McGowan.
Oh, brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.
No, the best thing about that was when obviously the LBW is given out,
off eight.
He threw his thing, I turned his microphone off and goes,
and that's why you don't waste reviews or something like that.
He's fuming.
And then said it again on air, but he was so cross.
That was actually the day I was a taxi driver.
That test match, I was taxi driver for Jim Maxwell.
and Glenn McGrath.
I mean, driving along thinking,
this is surreal after.
And then at the moment when Stokesy cut it,
Aguze, I was like, what?
Yeah, what am I going to say?
And then lucked out with the phase saying,
it was the greatest thing I've ever seen,
and then just stopped.
Normally I'll waffle on like I've waffled on here.
So that holds such a big memory from me
in terms of the next start of the career.
And also, Nathan Lynde drop in the easiest thing.
It always brings a smile to my face.
It could easily probably be my number one
compared to Stokesy's catch, but as I read it as Brody's spell, I've gone that way around.
And of course, Adam Mountford in the background there, that's, you know, an iconic moment.
Because he couldn't see. So Adam, just to explain, the producer was sitting well behind, and he was sort of, it was heading at very high seats.
So he actually couldn't see the play. So he's listening. So hearing you shouting, no, no, no, he's going, oh my God, hit his face.
He was all because of, he couldn't see what's going on. So his hands are going everywhere in his mouth anyway.
It was an incredible place to be.
I mean, when you think about some of the most incredible moments in cricket, I think about 2019, being in the Lords Media Centre there and Haggis.
I guess for me, 2019 was at a time where there weren't as many female commentators, so we had to get shared around a bit more.
So I was working for BBC and Sky for the ashes.
So I was splitting between the Skybox and the BBC box.
And I remember coming into the BBC box and everyone's just like high, on edge.
on the edge of their seat
and just really kind of
anxious everywhere you looked
and then I went into the Skybox
similar thing
it was just one of those
unbelievable moments
what was sad about that
was 2019 with the World Cup
and that test match
English cricket was just
kind of on the launch pad it felt
like a rocket
and the steam was coming out
the engines were firing up
and then COVID came
and it sort of fell off
a bit of a cliff
that just felt to me
because of what had happened
to English cricket
that summer, that could have been the moment when it really took off and it was real shame
that COVID immediately and just kind of killed it. Yeah, incredible summer. I have got mine.
So I've, I went with the Flintoff. He was originally at number one for me. But then I've kind
of merged everything for number one. So Freddie Flintoff, 2005, unbelievable over of skill, accuracy,
precision, being able to do it against Ricky.
I remember watching it live.
And as I mentioned before, we had our women's ashes on at the same time.
And from a pure inspiration point of view, for me as a bowler, as someone who tried to swing the ball,
it was honestly one of the greatest overs I've ever seen in cricket from an inspiration point of view.
And I just watched that over going, oh my God, I want to do that.
And so every time I would be at the top of my mark during that series,
I'd be thinking about that over from that point on,
just about the way he was able to set him up,
the different kind of movement that was on offer for every delivery.
Every delivery was clearly executed.
He knew exactly what he wanted to do every single ball and he was able to do it.
And I just think for that reason, Freddie is at number two,
that specific over and to be able to do it against Ricky as well
who is arguably one of the greatest ever
I thought was really really special
and then flinch off on the bus
I mean does that go mention as well here
because you were on the bus
I know you were no well we were on the bus
behind behind yeah the crowds
we weren't the wags as everyone else thought
we were
we were on the bus behind and it was one of the most
unbelievable
you know how old will I have been
I think I was just 20
at the time and so
us youngsters were just completely
awesome because the players thought
no one was going to turn up
that'd be in there for me as an ashes moment
yeah I mean that was pretty special
and we'd
we'd done a kind of lap of honour the last day
the Oval Test and so we'd had a few
days of enjoying ourselves
prior to that but I do remember
being on the bus on the way from there
to Downing Street
to Lords
and that's when Harmy drew
on Freddy's face
and I remember walking past him
going oh my God it's Freddy Blintock
I don't think Freddy knew not the day it was
by then but there we go
yeah well we sort of
cottoned onto that when we arrived at the hotel
and he was hobbling about
anyway that was a special
moment
but my number one has to be
that I've actually
encapsulated the whole day because I think
it's you can't describe that moment without talking about the excellence and the miracle of
Ben Stokes and you know at the start of the day you know I think a lot of people had hope for
England but as the wicket started falling they needed 73 one weekie I was on commentary and I did
what you you did Alistair I stepped aside I let Shane Worn come in or Ricky Ponting because
I was like you're about to to take the ashes here and then it just
continued and
just one of the most
yeah just I mean
of all the innings of all time
it has to be up there
in terms of one of those
innings that it just doesn't happen
it was just so unbelievable
I interviewed him the other day in a different
capacity and so I said to him come on then
you got all the fielders on the boundary edge
which they were nine on the boundary edge
you know you've got to have to hit sixes
because you can't get ones,
you can't get leach on strike,
you've got to hit it over them.
How were you able to actually do that?
What was going through your mind
that you've got all these fielders out there
and yet you're still hitting sixes?
And he looked at me like I had gone a bit simple
and he said, well, because I had it over them, didn't I?
So the fact they were there didn't matter.
I thought, wow.
That's how clear he's thinking.
I had to hit it over them.
And also, if you go back to that,
actually the first 40 balls,
he said he had to go,
for England to win that game,
game he had to be not out overnight.
I think it was one or two of 40 balls.
Yeah, he was two off 73.
So the actual innings, like the reason I had it, of course, the greatest things I've seen
was the fact that it had everything in it.
You know, it had the lot.
And also getting over running at Josh Butler as well, didn't he?
Oh, yeah.
Just extraordinary.
I just say, yeah, with the 70 odd there, we were in the back of the box discussing where do England go from here?
We were discussing, because we're going to do the podcast after.
The lunch feature was, yeah, English credits finished.
Where do we go from here?
And also we were discussing what we were going to say, the end of the game,
where it was a series game.
And then as he got, you kind of think, oh, I hit a few.
It got to 50, 40.
And then you start, the worst thing, you start believing, don't you?
And you start believing at 30.
Well, that's what happened with the Nathan Lion incident happened.
Yeah, extraordinary.
And what a, yeah, like, not a bad way to get introduced into punditry, that was.
Well, my thanks to Sir Alistair Cook and Jonathan Agnew,
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