Test Match Special - Unbelievable last-wicket stand beats England

Episode Date: October 25, 2026

Henry Moeran is alongside Jonathan Agnew, Steven Finn, and Alex Hartley to dissect just HOW England lost to Pakistan - after a last-wicket partnership of 89 got the home side over the line, thanks to an incredible innings of 113 by Shadab Khan.Hear the thoughts of England head coach Brendon McCullum, as well as Pakistan bowler Haris Rauf who hit the winning runs.

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Listen now on BBC.com, the BBC app, or wherever you get to your BBC podcasts. You're listening to the TMS podcast. from BBC Radio 5 Live. 2.21 for 9. 21 needed. Ingle need one wicket and he bowls it. On leg before a wicket, he is out. He's missed a straight full ball. And Atkinson knew it.

He was celebrating before the finger was raised. Is he going to review it? I think a late decision. Shadab knows is out. England knows out. And they've won the game. They'll take the two points. But just to make sure there isn't some sort of little edge on that.

Oh, no. No, no, there is an edge. No way! There's a spike. No way. I'll ask you to change your decision to not out. Oh, how does that happen? The batsman knew he was out, he's walked off.

He threw his bat on the floor. He was high-fiving the England players saying well-played. They shook hands. All the players out in the middle shook hands. He threw his bat on the floor. In disbelief, he couldn't believe he'd miss that low full toss. He thought he'd lost Pakistan the game. He didn't know.

hit the ball. Crocom runs in bowls, Jimmy Hammers it down the ground for four. And rushes off the ground, his flung his bat in the air. What a stroke from the number 11. And England have lost that game. Well, where do you even begin? Pakistan have shocked England to win by one wicket and secure their place in the tri-series final. That does not begin to tell half the tale. They were chasing two-four-two. and slipped to 154 for nine, but Shadab Khan, 113 not out, shared a partnership of 89 for the last wicket with Harris. Ralph.

He was given out, and everybody shook hands. Shadab thought he was out, LBW to Gus Atkinson, but then with really a speculative review, an inside edge barely but enough to save him, to save the game, to save plenty more drama to come. And remarkably, with just runs number 4, 5, 6 and 7 from one brutal blow down the ground,

Harris Ralph hit the winning runs with a boundary. Number 11, absolutely smashing the ball down to the ropes, straight down the ground to win the game for Pakistan by one wicked. Extraordinary, crushing for England who thought they'd done it. but two results in the game it felt like, but the one that matters, the one that's in the scorebook, is that Pakistan have won this by one wicked.

Jonathan Agnew, Alex Hartley, Stephen Finn, where do we even begin? Agers, you've seen so much cricket, but I'm not sure any of us have ever seen a game quite like that. No, you know, where do you so? We're taking a bit of a breath here. I suspect that as Pakistan got close to, So let's start with the first bit.

This is a really good pitch. And Steve, I would talk about this earlier on. This is a good track. There was no pressure on Pakistan in terms of runs and balls. They had all the time in the world. And they could actually have knocked that off rather more easily, had those couple beforehand not given their wickets away. So the pitch is good.

There was no bowler in the England side really to start pinging the ball around the number 11s years and make him feel uncomfortable. And I think that maybe England did sit back a bit when he first came in. There were no attacking field as they came in later, a slip in a short leg. By then he got his eye in. And he was playing nicely. And there was nothing to bother Harris, Ralph, at all.

Shadab played some wonderful shots. And I just think as Pakistan chipped away and got closer to that target, so those scars of the Sri Lanka match came back to haunt England. And they do. You know, when you have suffered at such a high-profile defeat as that one was, you know, it doesn't take much, actually, for those scars again to appear. Those who have played in the Champions Trophy here, lost three games on the trot, including a very high-scoring game against Australia.

And it does come back, and it haunts you. But, you know, total, massive credit to Shadab, who chances are months or twice. He clearly could not believe. that he somehow got a little scrape on the ball and we go back to the point that we made and we were talking about bats, but they always know when they nicked it. Well, he didn't.

He was up at the umpire at the bowler's end when he decided that he might as well review it because he had a couple left so he might, you know, so just do it. And there was that little tiny scrape. And he's back in again. So, well, no, for drama and everything else,

the point is now that England face, well, not an impossible task but it's a nigh on impossible task and the amount of times covering England in these sorts of tournaments and World Cups it down to calculating net run rates and end up saying well they're almost out

but not quite because if this happens you get 0.2 3 of something they might survive but back in that territory again because they have to hope that Pakistan beats Sri Lanka on Tuesday and do so emphatically and that England absolutely thrashed Sri Lanka on Thursday

otherwise they're out of this tournament. Well, the equation for England is exactly that. They can still qualify, but they do require Pakistan to beat Sri Lanka and then themselves to beat Sri Lanka by a decent margin to overturn that net run rate. Stephen Finn, it was scarcely believable as that partnership built and built, and it had shades of Jack Leach and Ben Stokes at Headingley in that famous Ashes test match.

Yeah, it's completely and utterly. speechless really about what we've just seen there. The game just was never smooth right from the very beginning. England four down within the first 10 overs after having been asked to bat first. And rarely do you ever win a game when you're four down inside the first 10 overs of a 50 over game. But they scrapped and fought. Benduckett played a really good knock to score that 100. But you still felt like they were way below part.

Then they started well with the ball. and then just lost their way. It's those wickets and having bowlers who are able to take wickets all the way through the innings, I think with the balance of team that England have, with all the all-rounders in the middle at the moment, I'm not sure that they're doing themselves the biggest favour by not having an out-and-out fifth bowler. And I think, again, it's costing them when they're desperate for someone a bowler

to grab the game by the scruff of the neck at the very end there, they couldn't and then all of the scars that would have been there from the other evening against Sri Lanka were just reopened and even though you felt as though well you know it's you've won delivery away you're there you're one delivery away it just never came and well played to Pakistan that was that was a remarkable innings by Shadab Khan there the way he marshaled the tale the decisions he made throughout it to marshaled the strike and make sure that he faced as many balls as possible was brilliant and I'd imagine to be playing ODI cricket for a little while after that. Alex, it feels as though England have got on the wrong end of two remarkably unlikely scenarios over the course of, you know, three days and chasing down 430 shouldn't really ever happen in Sri Lanka's case and an 88 run partnership at the back end of an innings to for the last wicket to win a game. should also never happen.

It's the highest successful 10th wicket stand in ODI history as well. I mean, it's just so many remarkable things. Yeah, I mean, two, I guess, brilliant, brilliant games of cricket if you're a neutral or if you're not an England supporter. I mean, if we're being honest,

England shouldn't have got anywhere near winning today. The game against Sri Lanka was just unbelievable from the Sri Lanka and batters, poor bowling from England, as well. England actually on the flip side bowed really, really nicely today and got themselves in it in the game, got themselves in a game they didn't really deserve to be in. They know they gave wickets away. They didn't back all that well in the first innings to only get 240 on the board. You go, okay, well they've given themselves a

sniff and they kept getting wickets. They got themselves in the game and then it got to the stage, well surely, surely they're not going to lose this one and then they win it and then there's a spike on the bat and then they lose it and it's It's just, it just feels to me they are missing a bowler. They are missing somebody at the death. They're missing a quick bowler. And, you know, they are. They're missing Joffra, but there's a big hole in their bowling lineup.

Agers, would you agree with that? Yes, absolutely. I mean, you know, that's two big blows. You know, this is a side that's actually come into this tournament on a real high, hasn't it, you know, and with a T20 form as well. You know, everything was going swimmingly as far as Brendan McCullum and Harry Brooke was concerned. You know, they seem to be on a real upward graph. But you'd lose two games like this, and that really, really hurts.

That was a crusher the other day. I suspect still that, well, I don't know. I mean, this one, you know, to have got over the line, you know, you've got to be honest and say that they were well short with their runs. say Duckett's 105 and Gus Atkinson's 36 out of 240 you know the rest contributed nothing. They were a good 80 runs short on a really good pitch, quick outfield. That's a 300 plus pitch. And so in the end, they've lost a game that probably they deserve to lose on the lack of runs that they score.

But they got themselves into that winning position. That's what will really hurt them. 122 for 7 Pakistan 131 for 8 154 for 9 88 still needed you know you that that game should have been done and dusted and you know they'll they'll be they'll be bitterly disappointed of course they will you know they everyone expected them to be in the final of this tournament they dealt with Pakistan ruthlessly enough of their test series dealt with Sri Lanka in the one day series at the end of the summer there are the two opponents here confidence was very high and yet they're played two lost two and they face going out yeah I just think

they're struggling with their identity in 50 over cricket I think these guys who play together in the T20 team are used to marauding around the world and coming together and forming bonds and understanding the flows and nuances of the T20

game but perfectly and that's why they've made this really strong formidable T20 team that I think now can go and compete with anyone in the world as they showed against India how they beat them in the summer but I really strongly believe that with the balance of team that they have at the moment with packing the middle order with those all rounders I just think it leaves them short with the ball and in 50 over cricket now to me the bowling is what wins you the game the batting can set it up but I think you're bowling and

and being able to have quick bowlers who are able to bowl at different phases of the game and then you have your part-time spinners as a bit of a backup, your Bethel's, your roots, jacks to a certain extent. But I think they have to look at the balance of this team now, especially given what we've seen on these pitches here. They were crying out for a quick bowler there, the number 11.

I mean, I mean, he might have bowled if Joffre Archer was playing him. He might have bowled out, who knows. But that's the sort of thing we're talking about. someone to come in and bowl with some pace, pull with some aggression. I mean, yes, you know, Joffar Archer will be in the squad. He's not here and that's showing. Right, after all of that, let's get some reaction from the England head coach,

Brendan McCullum, he's been chatting to Artif Nawaz. Baz, it's got to be tough, obviously. First, there was a record run chase in Ralbindi here in Lahore, an incredible 10th-wicket partnership from Pakistan. I mean, you guys are shaking hands. it was over. How do you motivate the team? How do you pick them up after a game like that? Yeah, look, boys are absolutely gutted, to be honest. I think, you know, for so long of today, they fought incredibly hard. Obviously, we were behind the game with the bat, fought our way

to a total, started well, started well, a very good position, well, a very good position, and then obviously we weren't able to get across the line. So I think last game was, boys were gutted after that and you look in the dressing room now they're also extremely gutted now at the halfway point you know how are you feeling at that point 240 odd runs

are you feeling you know like it's a good sort of position to be in? Look we thought we were quite a bit under par to be honest we sort of thought 280, 290 would have been par on that particularly with the Jew going to potentially kick in later on but you've got what you got

It was only because of a 40 run last we get stand on our side that we got ourselves to 240 and we knew that we're going to need early wickets to be competitive. We managed to get those. Obviously got ourselves in a strong position and then credit to shut up I thought he played an unbelievable winning so it was another great opportunity for us to be able to take some lessons

from the opposition. The last game obviously we saw a brilliantly constructed high score and run chase and we talked to, extensively about that. If we're in a situation where we're chasing a large total, then we kind of were given a blueprint from Sri Lanka and then today we're given a blueprint from Shadavkan of how to be able to manufacture a way through with the tail and dominate most of the strike and be able to ultimately get your side across the line. But look all those things, they won't land yet. They're the conversations for in time at the moment. The boys are obviously just

gutted. I mean, what do you say to them? Because obviously, you know, for a lot of the game and almost virtually to the end. You were there, like you were in control of that game. Do you put it down to just an exceptional 10th-wicket partnership? Do you put it down to anything that went wrong on the inland side? What do you put it down to? Look, I think when you're defending a lowish total, you do need a few things to go your way, and you need it to go your way for a fair amount of the innings. But like, I think the way that Shadad was able to navigate his way through with the tail to dominate the strike and obviously maneuver the board. around the field. We obviously went, you know, we tried to hit the links which had been

successful throughout the game. The ball started getting on so then we decided to go Yorkers and tried to obviously get as much access to Harris Ralph at the end. But look, you know, we had our chance and unfortunately, you know, we passed it up and that's something we will learn from. And it's an inexperienced side. It's a team which we know for us to be serious challenges at the World Cup in 12 months time, then we need to get better, we need to win games that you're in front so far on. But we've been given to good lessons

in the last two games, and we will learn from it. Obviously it's not over yet. I mean, you've got one more game to come against Sri Lanka, rematch. If Pakistan beat Sri Lanka on Tuesday, then you know that that game becomes an opportunity for you guys to make the final still. You'll get an equation, obviously, you play to that.

There's absolutely still hope for England going forward. Yeah, look, it's out of our hands, right, in terms of the results. But what we can focus on is making sure that we play a more complete game than what we have. And if we get ourselves in front, then we're able to actually finish the game off and win. The TMS podcast from BBC Radio 5 Live. Growing businesses deal with the same problem. Too many tools, too much back and forth, and not enough time. Odu helps bring it all together.

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And I guess what the message will be is we're learning. And I know full well that, you know, Harry Brook will say there's positives to come out of today because that's the cliche that you always hear. But it's a team that are learning and it's a team that's building towards the World Cup in 2027. So as harsh as this may seem and as people might say, well, you're wrong, Alex. But ultimately in the grand scheme of things, this series, if they win doesn't matter. As long as they go and they perform well in that World Cup in 27, but they have to learn the lessons in this series. and they have to try and put the wrongs right.

And I'm not saying they won't be hurting. I'm not saying they won't be embarrassed by the way that certain things have happened or played or whatever. They will still feel those emotions. But Brenda McCullum and Harry's book's job is to build the team towards that World Cup and try and not let the nightmares stick around for too long. Well, maybe it's a good thing that they've had this experience here.

You know, we're still a year out. And maybe it will focus some minds, as Steve was saying, they're about the balance of the side and what they do. And that's being shown up now with a year to go, rather than us talking about it with just a month to go before the World Cup. You know, there is a year to go. And so if you're going to be shown up with the errors that are being made that are shown up,

and a particular balance of a side is being exposed, rather that happen now than happen with a month to go before the World Cup and finally decisions might be made. they've got to start looking at this now they go to Australia after this and that's going to be a tough few games as well Any criticism for Harry Brooke Captain CME 2 unloosable

games lost in the space of three days We said a bit in the Sri Lanka game about bowling changes I don't think he could have done much else today It was pretty harsh turning to Croken but then you know you're in the side you've got a job to do you are the only quick bowler that's left

Overton had bowled out So you're in the team Okay, you're 24, it's your first match We need someone to bowl as fast as they can At the number 11 who was on strike at the time So while obviously you do have some sympathy For a young man in that position Well, who else is going to do it?

You know, he had to really It's a shame that he clearly had no warning He was loosening up as he walked back to his mark Going through all the normal sort of stretching that you would do Maybe you'd hope the over before you were called on to bowl but then one day cricket, anything can happen and you've got to be prepared. So that was a harsh call,

but I don't think really Brooke had anywhere else to go. Yeah, I actually look at the way that Brooke compiled those last 10 overs or so. And like he did the other night, he went for a four-over spell of Sam Curen for the 40th, 42nd, 44th and 46th over. I think the aggressive move for a captain there is try and kill the game then.

And I think that given the way that Curran bowled the other number, and the fact that he's been out of cricket for quite some time with that injury. It was an opportunity then in the 40th over with plenty of runs left to play to say to Crocom, who is probably the quickest bowler on show for England there. Show me what you've got. Blow this tail away. And him and Atkinson in partnership there, I think, could have had an opportunity,

even if they had two balls to bowl at Ralph, the last two balls. Number 11's hate facing pace. I hated it. I was a number 11. And I think that was a missed opportunity for Brooke to empower a young person first and foremost, but then secondly, to win the game. I guess they just thought they were going to win and that would be it. They'd knock him over, you know.

And so he's sort of delaying, delaying that inevitable. Alex, now I'd all Rashid again today. Any question marks a ringlinger's selection? No, I thought Liam Dawson has bowled absolutely brilliantly in the previous game in this game. I think he's proven that, you know, he can step up when Adil Rashid's not playing. I think, you know, Adil Rashid, for me, isn't the bowler that he was three or four years ago. You know, he has become more expensive. You know, teams do attack him and take him on.

And, you know, we really saw that in that first game against Pakistan, where every single one of his first balls went for a boundary and he found it really, really hard to come back into the game. Whereas Dawson previously in the last game against Sri Lanka bowled really nicely, he was the pick of the bowlers. and again today only going at three and over, picking up two wickets, bowed fantastically well, kept things simple, kept the stumps in play, and was actually quite adaptable.

He was happy for Harry Brooke to talk to him and set his fields and being quite funky about it. And, yeah, I think Dawson was the right pick again today. I thought it was interesting that Pakistan opted to play a wrist spinner because clearly in Raul Pindi, the finger spin, bowling it into the surface was really effective. I found it curious that Pakistan saw in the pitch something that would be effective for a wrist spinner

and as it happens he's battered eight and won them the game with a hundred as well but his primary job was to be here was to be a wrist spinner there we may see a change of tact in the next game where they try and squeeze both Dawson who I agree bold excellently today and Rashid into that lineup Agers when you look at this England side and the makeup of them year out from a World Cup. Do you sort of have to try and look at these sort of matches and think, right, that is a really important stepping stone in terms of our evolution and how do we

use that as a way of actually building a real positive? Because the last couple of days have seen some defeats that actually, you know, could really, the wrong reaction could really damage your side. Yeah, well, they're going to have to come back strongly. You know, they've got one game left against Sri Lanka, they need to win that. I mean, it might be in a losing cause as far as the tournament is concerned, but they can't come here and have three straight defeats. You know, they've got to get themselves back on track again, and that's not going to be easy, because Sri Lanka clearly full of confidence. I mean, England has to hope that Pakistan give them a good thrashing on Tuesday, and that they're therefore hunting around a bit, they know that they

can't get beaten heavily by England because England could possibly sneak in that way. And that's the only way that England could possibly get through to the final here on Saturday is by Pakistan beating Sri Lanka heavily, really damaging their net run rate. And then England doing the same thing on Thursday and hoping that the calculator comes out, point naught something in their favour. But that's the only way they could possibly qualify. But looking longer term, to answer your question, I kind of go back to what I said, really, and that you want these things to be sorted out now

so that you do get a team settled. I mean, that was the business of the winning the World Cup. You know, it was a very settled team until suddenly, of course, Joffar Archer came in and David Willie missed out. But they, for four years, up to, you know, for 2015 to 19, they just built a team. And it was more or less the same team

that played all of the time. And they got to know each other. They all knew where they were going to feel for each particular bowler, all that sort of rhythm that you get. And they got the bottom of the world rankings at the start of that four-year cycle, and by the World Cup, they were top, and they won. And that's no coincidence.

Now, they've got a year here, and plenty of matches in which to get themselves at least in a position for which they can seriously challenge in South Africa. I think we've all said what we think here about the bowling lineup, and they do need an extra. They need another bowler, need another front line bowler, and then need one with some pace. And that would be Joffra Archer, who is not here.

So I think they have the resources. It's just a question, really, of getting them all together and getting that team used to play together, used to winning games. And then you'll quickly forget about this, except maybe in a year's time when they've won the World Cup, saying, well, do you remember that Tri-Series in Pakistan? Well, they learned some lessons there. they put things in order, they sorted out the balance of their team. And that's what you have to hope comes out of this tournament. Yeah.

And I suppose the other factor in all of this, Finney, is that you look at the side that turn things around so rapidly from 2015 to 2019. And they were at the lowest of the low. And this team aren't at that. They've had some real success in whiteball cricket. It's just they've had two fairly devastating defeats here. Yeah, and that can happen in. this format of the game in whiteball cricket. Individual performances can sink you and Shadab Khan today,

who's picking up the player of the match award. It has certainly done that to England. By the way, Jamie Overton won all-rounder of the match and they've overlooked Shadadad for all rounder of the match. How's that happened? That's staggering. It's a very good 10 that Jamie scored. Exactly. Unbelievable.

But you just have to dust yourself down. You just hope that defeats like this aren't papered over and that they actually do look at the makeup of the lineup because we've seen this regime in terms of the coaching staff be stubborn with the way they pick the test match team and back their players, which I completely support backing players and trusting players. I just think it's becoming obvious

that they do need that extra front line bowling option even if that does sacrifice some lower middle order batting, I think it's worth sacrificing for the runs that you're saved by having that extra frontline bowling option. Alex, what about the performance of Shadab Khan? Because it's very easy to focus purely on England and perhaps their failings. But it was an unbelievable innings,

113 not out of 96 balls. And when he came in, it was almost a lost cause by the point that he was batting with Shaheen, Razorullah and Harris Ralph. And the way that he played was extraordinary. Yeah, I said at the start, I said that, no, we're not forgetting that his first two balls, he tried to hit to the moon. You know, he came charging out of his crease and played two almighty hacks.

Like the game was almost done. He didn't want to be out there. He was trying to find a way to get out. And then actually he rained himself in and absorbed pressure and built partnerships. It was when Salman Ali Arga got out. that was when the game really flipped and that was when he went into almost I guess captain mode

of a side. You know he's been in these situations before he's never scored 100 but it was a remarkable innings the way that when Harris Ralph came in he then faced a maiden against Dawson and Ralph managed to get off strike the very next ball of I can't remember who it was, might have been Sam Curran from the

far end and then Chadab Khan started to be like right I've got to really farm this strike here so yeah I mean he was absolutely exceptional. Stephen Where would you put that innings from, I mean, statistically, it's remarkable. And we've spoken about the fact it's the highest 10th bucket stand in a successful ODIH chase. But, you know, it was a brilliant. Well, it was so well thought through.

It wasn't like he just stood there and slogged his way to 100. He was calculated in the people he targeted. He was calculated in the way that he farmed the strike. He was supportive of his partner. He'd go down and speak to Harris Ralph every now and again. if he felt as though he needed to. England tried all the tactics as well. They tried to slow the game down.

There were helmets coming on. They were extra helmets coming on. I think because the other day against Sri Lanka, things just got too frenetic too quickly and England quickly got to the end of that game. England tried to stall things today and he didn't allow him and his partner's concentration to be disturbed.

He got very, very lucky. Let's not forget that there was a tiny scratch on that LBW that was given out and then overturned on the field. But you kind of feel. feel the way he played, he deserved that little bit of luck. It just seemed inconceivable all the way through even until they needed nine runs to win and he hit that six off the last ball of the penultimate over. You still thought it's one ball here. They've got six at the number 11. He showed trust

in Harris Ralph to score those three runs. They did it and I'd imagine there'll be some big smiles on the Pakistan players faces for the rest of the evening. A spectacular moment to finish the game, Harris Ralph dancing down the track, smashing a boundary. He passed the bowl up with three needed. The number 11, finishing seven nod out and finishing with a great big smile on his face as well. He's been chatting to Artiv. Harris, that was an unbelievable 10th-wicket partnership

that you and Shadha put on. I mean, Pakistan were down and out, nine wickets down. I mean, how did that happen? Try and explain that to us a little bit. First of all, thanks to Almighty Allah. And when I'm going on the crease, and just I'm talked to with the Shadab. I said, just believe on me and ourselves.

So I said it's happened sometime. And I know you have a very good bat. So you try and just believe on me. So, inshallah, we will. There was that LBW decision, which was given out on field. I mean, he threw his bat down on the ground. He was ready to walk off. Did you say to him review it?

Of course, of course, because he just walked out outside. So I said, take review. We have a review. So why you not take a review? Maybe it's bad. So he takes the review and al-hambulah we success. When you saw that, when you saw that there was an edge on it? No, no, I'm not, I don't know. Not on the replay. When you see the replay, how did you feel? I see it on the replay and just before, just before the ball, I said, I think it's bad, it's bad. And suddenly just, you know, it's coming on the screen. I said, wow, it's a It's amazing. I think so, go and give one more chance.

It was incredible. And then you hit the winning runs. For the longest time, Shadab is farming the strike. You hit the winning runs. Describe that feeling to me. I've just before the ball, I said, Shadab, it's now my time. So I will go for the finish. So he said, no, no, I will go for the finish. And then you finished it? Of course, al-hamborella.

That's fantastic. How are you guys going to celebrate today? Yeah, happy because of the people are Pakistan. Pakistan people are so happy because we need this win, this type of the wins. So this I think this one for the Pakistan peoples. And you're through to the final. Also, you did it in front of your home PSL crowd as well, in front of Lahore. How great was it to have a full house here today? Yeah, today was an amazing crowd and they are come and cheer for us. So lovely two guys, lovely to see this type of the crowd.

And they are always coming and they support us. Harris, congratulations on an incredible performance today and best of luck on Tuesday against Sri Lanka. Thank you so much, brother. Agas, where would this rank in terms of one-day matches that you've seen? Well, nearly as good as the one three days ago. I mean, you know, it's just, I mean, these things happen, don't they? I mean, you know, the fact is that, I don't think the last pair

in a one-day international has ever scored 88 runs before to win a game. So that shows how rare it is. We're very lucky to have been here to have watched it. It will be fascinating to see we're in the same hotel as the players. Very interesting to see how

their demeanour is. They seem okay. The ones that I have seen over the last couple of days after Sri Lanka, they seem fine. But you know, you lose another one like this. You know, I just watched Brendan McCullum actually walking off.

You know, he's, you know, He's had a bit of a roller coaster, hasn't he, these last few months, and he was on good form the other day. We had a good long chat with him, and he seemed to be fine. And that was after Sri Lanka, actually, when I bumped into him. And he was pretty good, pretty realistic about it. He's someone who, you know, I don't think we've ever seen Brendan McCullough and really sort down in the dumps.

I mean, he's pretty level. But, you know, if you've had the 12 months that he's had, I suspect you're starting to worry a bit. and he's got to get the team back. He's got to get the team back on track again. The TMS podcast from BBC Radio 5 Live. The Football Daily Podcast with Rick Edwards and Lloyd Griffith. We are here and we're back.

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