The 40k Lorecast - 40K Lorecast Live Q&A Spring of 2026

Episode Date: March 6, 2026

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Welcome to the 40K lore cast. Start recording. Go live. Go live. You're live. Probably. I love. You got a preview screen, my friend. Yeah, I do. Are you looking at it? We are. An error occurred. Please try. Hello, everyone. Hello.

Why am I? Can you shift me over please? That would be great. Oh, cool. All right, apparently it works now. The whole that was it was it wasn't working it wasn't working originally. Now it is, or at least it wasn't on my screen. Now I'm gonna do that just kind of. What's up big Mike? Rocketed rolling today. All right. This is probably gonna work. Okay, so I'll be our most successful out the gate launch. So Also, I do love the spring grass. Yeah, it's our spring Q&A. Did you not pay attention? Come on. I mean, no, obviously. Yeah, I did. All right, well, hey, everybody.

Q&A. So, as always, we try to do these every two-ish months. If someone could, you know, not get surgery, this would have been actually at the two-month mark, but got to collect them all. Look, man. So if you were going to say 2026 was not my most successful year so far, because I have been able to effectively do nothing for the entirety of 2026.

Yeah. Hashtag nailed it. It's nailed it. Yeah, hashtag nail it. All right. But as always, we kind of get in these Q&As. Really, it's more of a free forum at the last few. And the main thing we should want to kind of jump into was just kind of answer some of the stuff

people have been asking about recently. first and foremost, I want to defend myself about my comments about Blackbeard. No, he was not real. And I'm going to deal with this right now. People have been jumping on me about this. I didn't even know this one was a thing. Yeah, well, I called out that Blackbeard wasn't real. And the truth is, he did exist.

My point is simply that not the stories you read about him. He was a dude with a ship who fired on a bunch of people and stole some crap. He did not have a pirate kingdom and buried treasure all through the Caribbean. he was just a dude. You don't know that? Yeah, I do. You don't know that. Yeah. Yeah, it was actually quite funny. I took a lot out of nowhere.

Like I was like, oh, that's a lot of comments. And I actually had forgotten that when I had said it because we recorded it so long ago. I was like, what happened? Oh, yeah. This also does that. I've read it. My point is still like it's like he's more of a, I mean, he was a pirate, but, you know, not pirate king.

Was he the pirate king? No, no, he was not. So anyway, we're doing that. But one thing I would kind of jump into it today was just get that one out of the way was Brad and I were just kind of playing around with some ideas coming up for the cast and kind of where we are and some of the Q&As that have been going through. So first and the foremost, as always, big thank you to everybody for listening. This has been a really, 2025 was a really, really good year for us.

We grew the cast massively, and that's not because we did anything. correctly. It's because he'll actually listen to us, made nice comments and spread it around. That was really great. We also had a lot of kind of fun playing with some new ideas last year. We held our first ever tournament. We actually held our second tournament recently now. It's been kind of fun to expand up. Which gets so much better. Hold on. I'm going to go to the wall real quick. This guy. Yeah. But we've net, but what's been nice about it is that the growth we saw in 25 was really great. And I just want to say thank you to everybody because it really does mean a lot to us. We've been able to do a lot.

lot more stuff. We're playing on as you can see with YouTube a little bit more. It is candidly we get a lot of questions about YouTube. YouTube is challenging to kind of break into and I'm just going to give everyone really true honesty here. The challenge with YouTube is the amount of effort it takes to be good on YouTube isn't always worth the squeeze. The amount of time it takes to edit stuff for video is 10 to 15 hours to produce less than one hour of content and I just don't have that kind of time. So we're playing with some new ideas for this year around YouTube to see what we can do. We're also playing with some other ideas for cast expansion, et cetera, other events and

doing more, but just letting everyone know, that's why you kind of saw us stop, start last year a little bit on some stuff, like two old men and their handler, that one didn't work. Does I die? Yeah, because both of the old men got sick and couldn't do it. And then actually, and then the handler quit. It was actually perfect. We had two old men and a handler, and all three of them went, yeah, I can't do this. I do love the fact that one of the things was, Brad said several CT scans.

It's like, can we please have those made into a 3D model attached to a drone and run on chat GPT? I have so many scans that we could just physically paper machet. A version of made of that. Oh, that's not untrue. Um, but yeah, so I wanted to, oh, small volume increase. Sorry, guys. Let me, uh, let me mess with that a little bit. We're about as loud as we're going to get on, on my microphone and that's

God. Yeah, exactly. That email thing went so great for me. All right. I do have a lot of people that are wondering why I haven't responded to that. I was thinking about digging through that and getting people seeing how many random coach things I have through the, uh, tremendous amounts of spam that were there. Okay.

How's Brad's audio now? Can people let me know? You might talk. How am I feeling? I am okay-ish. I made some bad decisions over the weekend in trying to push my body to do some things that I probably should not have even thought about doing. And it did not go great for me because when the gods is a stupidity call, I answer that call every time. I still love.

Why does Brad sound like an adback? Oh, come on, man. I don't want to sound like an admec. Sounds muted. I could yell the shit out of this, though. I don't want to blow people's faces off. Yeah. Turn your mic up a little bit.

Oh, wait. That's all you, brother. I don't know. I cannot be any louder than you, than you allow me to be. Well, you're all the way up. So you're turned all the way up. So I don't, er.

Oh, I think I know the issue. All right. Do do, do it is what it is. Do do do. All right. Well, we're going to should record through as it is. So, all right. We'll see what it goes, guys.

Sorry. Good news is this is being recorded and it'll be published to the podcast later. So, too, do. Yeah, that's weird. And we fall backers will rain. Being able to drop stuff, the new detachment for Marines is, the problem is that we have so many, like, insanity, powerful things right now in the space marine detachment.

But that detachment does have some shenanigans because it's just not you randomly deep strike. Who cares? And that is the meme-centric deal. You could just make shit happen, which, yes. All right. Yeah, look, guys, retinau is a hard word. It's not my fault. All right. It's, this is, language is tricky. You have no idea how many words you discover you can't pronounce until you have to record yourself and listen to yourself, pronounce them incorrectly over. and over and over and over again. It's funny that you don't cheat like I do because I just go on anything because when I read the notes and then I go to any word that I think it's going to be jacked and then I just go to the internet before the whatever the Google says that it says and half the time it's wrong, but at least I go on whatever Google tells me that it's supposed to phonetically sound like. Well, that's just lame.

Like if you're going to if you're going to, if you're going to do this, let's actually have fun with it. I like everyone to kind of learn with me. Like, ah, how's John gonna pronounce this? Who knows? Is it gonna be correct? No. Is it gonna be close?

Also no. Diocleson? Oh, yeah. No. But anyway, more fun stuff about kind of coming up into 20, but what I want to do is 2027 or 2026. So coming to 2026, the goal we have for this year is actually to expand out a bit more.

One thing Brad and I're going to do is try to get more active in the scene. That's one of the main things we're going to do is try to be around a few more tournaments that a bit more available. Obviously, anyone who's going to be at a depth of comedy made it very clear. Did you just make me super silent again? No, you should be good now. I'm watching the levels on OBS. You should be better now.

I brought myself down is kind of the goal. It is audio. Just check everybody up. Power up. Yeah, this is, I'm just about to get mad. Turn them both up. Maximum volume. Maximum mojo.

I mean, I can just, fuck it. I mean, we can just, whoa. Oh, that's what happened. All right. Hold on. You're going to be waiting a hot minute on the white scars just because of the fact that John will beam it and make it part of something else

and just go the white scars cast. Okay, yeah, we're done. Sorry, guys, I'm trying to get this. just right in audio. All right. I think we're better now. Is that by any chance good? I did blow everyone's ear drums out a second ago. We're going to go full. Perfect. All right. Sorry, guys. It's just what happens is Brad and I are just so we record these. Brad and I are on one thing. I have to bring it into OBS to do a second thing. So Brad, my audio is perfect in our headphones. And not to any of your headphones, which makes it I'm having to follow all of you guys.

So coming up here at Adepticon, we are going to wander up to the GW guys and with some drinks and see what kind of things that they will talk to us about once they realize what's going on with the cast, I think. That's the hope. We shall see. We shall see. But yeah, that is true, Mike. The amnicide does hate me too much for technology to work around me. Yeah. All right. If your audio is this messed up, I'm going to get really mad.

So, all right. Sorry, everybody. John would make it at bars. Yes, he did one of the, uh, I, I think like a Sky Marshall would probably shoot you at this point in time. Tech priest, Sky Marshall. You'd get re-rolls. Technology is difficult, everyone. Yeah. That sounds great now.

All right. I was, I just honestly clicked buttons totally work. worked. Vox sounding. Yeah. All right. So this was a problem we had last time where Brad comes out in a tin can. It blames squad cast. All right. It doesn't matter. We'll figure it out later. So that makes me sad. Yeah. Independent channel. I know how to clean it up later. So all right. But anyway, so there we go. So how far are we? It's 12 minutes in and we've maybe sort of figured it out. So the whole situation just so for Adepticon, anyone going to Adepticon, come see us, we actually will be there. I will be there every single day, all four days. And if you're

not aware, I'm pretty tall. So I'm easy to find. Me too. Nope. Brad's a lot hard. Brad's loud. And so you'll know, you'll know where his presence. I mean, when we're standing together, you'll hear both of us. That's true. Jesus Christ. But I will say to anybody who's going, I am an incredibly friendly person. If you see me, just walk up to me. And I mean this, like just walk up. You just say hi. I don't, you don't have to be nervous about it. Same with Brad too. Either of us, if you see us, just walk up.

We will happily make time for you. Nothing would give me more joy than talking to some of you. So anyone at Adepticon come through and do it. And we're going to try and go to some more events. I kind of want to go to London GT this year. We're going to see if I can get over there. It's a little bit dicey with travel schedule because of my work. But I'm going to...

I kind of want to go to worlds this year because this is Barcelona. Right. I want to go to some of my work. somewhere where actually people who listen to our cast would be. I'm just saying. As far as places I might know. Where the elite players? Good.

I'd also want to go back to Fiji. What else we want to go through? Like, oh, cool. How many listeners do we have in Fiji? I'm going to go hike Mount Kilimanjaro. Don't know why you're talking about that's cast, Brad, but thanks. Adepticon is in Milwaukee. Yeah.

Dallas Fort Worth area. There's quite a few events down actually in that area. Dallas is one of the main areas for Warhammer. Actually, it's been growing massively. I don't know them off the top of my head because I don't live anywhere near there. Oh, and the cowboys suck horribly. Boo.

But yeah, Depticon's really cool. For those who don't know, Depticon is the largest tabletop gaming convention on Earth. So it's a really fun event to go to. For Warhammer, it's big. There are much bigger events for Warhammer than it. But what's nice about it is you get Warhammer, you get mech warrior kill team um i think there's war machine is there uh god i mean there's

there's so many games just the vendor hall alone is amazing if you're into modeling there's great stuff there's a really cool there's just a cool event there's so many classes and stuff like really cool classes at a doctor got there's a lot of stuff there's just a ton of stuff sorry the guy talk crap on the cowboys fan i'm a saints fan all right fine fair enough i mean you can always I just got to talk shit about mine because I'm a Raider fan, so yeah. Okay, no. Brad's a Raider fan and a Laker fan. Yep.

Yeah. Yeah. You're not a good person. Oh, yeah, in the 90s, they did have a Mech Warrior game with cards. Now they actually, so if you guys are into tabletop gaming and not into spending really any money, look up the Mech Warrior game because it is, I think, one of the cheapest tabletop games you can play, and it is awesome. The models are super cheap.

You can also just 3D print them all. And it's, it has a very, actually, it's one of the larger player bases for a game of that style. Really, really good time. So, yeah. $34 for 4 max, 100% on that. Yeah, it's a great game. And it's a, the rules are really good.

It plays really fast. Really, really, really fun game. I'm sorry, battle tech. I'm always going to call it Mech Warrior. I do realize it's battle tech. Thank you. I'm always going to call it Mech Warrior because that's how I learn the game. It's battle tech first.

I know there's battle tech first. and then which one made it more famous the video game I still have me two somewhere sitting in this house I moved it with me even though I have me Mac Warrior II on a CD and my computer doesn't have a CD drive I can even put it in yet I haven't done the CD out burr oh yeah yeah I'm psyched up if you had more time what would you play like what's the game that you would go to if you had four besides 40 can that.

D&D. Honestly, I don't have time for it. I don't have time for D&D. I would love, I would love to go back to D&D. Tabletop. Actually,

what I would love to play is Rifts. That is what I want to go back and play. That is, that's the number one thing. I miss playing. I love it so much. I'd have to be forever to find 11.

The irony is I live in Michigan. That's actually Palladium games that could drive to their headquarters from my house. But no, I don't have it. So that's what I would do with more time. Tabletop probably would be battle. tech um marvel christopold goal doesn't really do it for me uh me or um oh what's the uh what's the

world war two one i can't remember its name top of my head which one the the one the one people bolt action that's one everyone plays bolt action or um i mean actually battle fleet gothic is also super up my alley um also austram he i mean why could you see them playing a bucket of bard i play nonsense stuff like Bard pretty consistently all the time. Battlefleet Gopic may have a little bit of play in my Adepticon board. So, yeah, but those games are freaking amazing. Access and allies, yeah, snakes and ladders. Also fun.

I have a child, so I do play a lot of trouble. That game's all, and he gets super upset when he loses, but it's okay. What are you doing beating your child? It's not my fault. You press the thing and the dice happen and he doesn't attend strategy. Just cheat so he wins. We're beating up the little kids. No, he's going to learn.

He's going to learn strategy. We're starting low. Same with sorry. We're talking with sorry in trouble. We'll work our way up to Mousetrap. Game of life. Yeah, you're just constantly sending him back. He's got six kids in the car.

No, no. Game of life is brutal. Oh, no. Game of life is. That's your dominance, Brad. Also, if you get to adopt a con and you come see us on Friday, I will be in full costume, so I might actually be easier to find than John for a change. Yeah.

The six foot four guy or the five foot, what point nine? Thank you very much. I'm five, five point nine two right now. Yeah. I think they'll find me first. They'll hear you first. They will hear you first. I don't know. You're really loud also.

It is true. And I'm higher up. Dude, get Conan and I to play next to each other. You'll find us. Oh, God. Just screaming at things. But yeah, like, try to. One of our buddies is maybe the loudest human in the existence. He's bigger than me, too. Yeah. His only volume.

Yeah. Yeah. The start is a normal guy. Oh, it is kind of true. because I'm so wide. I'm like, I'm like a bulgrin. Yeah, the start isn't bulgren. I mean, you're better washed, though. Oh, yeah.

You're ready to cry Thursdays are ruined your coaching. Nah, don't listen. There's nothing. That's the rule. So if you ever guys get coaching from Brad, he's a very good coach to his credit, very, very good coach. But if you are somewhere and he's there and he's coached to do something, make sure you're doing the opposite when he's walking by because he gets really upset.

But more importantly, do the opposite and win. That's where he gets really upset because you have to not listen to him and prove him wrong. You don't prove me wrong. You just win to spite yourself. Yeah, that's called proving you wrong. That's how spite works. That's what spite is.

It's like the definition of spite. Tripping out of banana peel and landing in money. This is not fucking strand of cheap. It's basically the definition of spite is doing something that's bad for me. So it's also bad for you. I have like this nose has been taken off my face a few times in 40K. Yeah. And my dice do work.

Just, speaking of that, we have to figure out what we're playing. We should source that out to the people. We're playing orcs. We just said, well, I said we should play orcs.

You said you weren't sure. Well, it's just you, you wanted to play dumb works. I want to play fun orcs. We're going to play orcs. I wasn't sure that. And then we had to play night fight.

And since if they're going to make a dust do night fight, I'm not, even bringing guns. I'm not even going to bother with it. Like I'm like, I don't want anyone to tell me something something's more than 18 inches away when I go, I don't care. I'm charging. I'm going to go with this on that. Haven't seen a lot of play of Dark Angels.

Any reason Dark Angels are play? Dark Angels, some of the other armies are just easier and super powerful. Ultramarine shooting right now is just bananas. So you just see most people play that if you're looking for the top Marine. Especially when you go into team tournaments, they only allow one of

of a Marine faction. So people pick that. Dark Angels are still very, very good. I like Wrath of the Rock myself if I was going to play Dark Angels right now. And John Upton, March 16th. Maygo. Yeah. Make that one easy for you.

We are doing minotars. March 16th. I know the date that comes out. Tudor. Yay. We get to talk about the Lords of Terror. Makes me a lot. I'm not playing Tau on the stream. Because most because it's one of the only armies I don't own. I play Tau.

Yeah, you can. Have fun. I'll pass. I like having a charge phase that means something. That's still. So that was the year. I took Tao to Las Vegas Open a year and I took a friend of mine's army and on the way there, everything was fine and the army was barely touched and on the way back, if they went in and opened it and individually broke every. model, it wouldn't be as bad as it actually was. Yeah. That stuff got destroyed by TPS. Also, uh, can of Pringles asked us to play space wolves. You don't want us to play space wolves because when Brad gets play space wolves, space wolves get nerfed every single time.

He has a long history of ruining your army. Like, orcs are fine, but for some reason when Brad plays space wolves, they take an atrocious nerve within three months. So there's quite a few about players locally who play Spacewolves who have told Brad he's not allowed to play them anymore. That is true. I do get yelled at. Yeah. That's that. It's not, it's not fun. If you're taking him somewhere, you can't take him somewhere. You could possibly be on stream or I won't let you lose my stuff. Yeah, because it's basically every time Brad goes somewhere and it's like, oh, good.

So space wolves are going to be horrible for the next nine months. Yep. Every single time. Sigismund. Yeah. So some of the characters, guys, there's actually a request we get a lot. I get a lot of stuff in our discords. It's one of the most common things we get is people saying, hey, cover this, cover that. The characters I want to cover more, but the thing about we're moving a bit more, if you notice in the cast,

moving to covering stories better, there are much better ways to cover a lot of these characters. If we want to do like Sigismund or Dante, it's actually easier than kind of talking about Dante for like an hour. It's more fun to talk about a story where Dante's in a lot. GW writers do a better job of doing, the glow up of the characters in a library book. They do a better job of doing a glow up of the Legion of the lore in a Codex or short story.

So like the War of Bedab, for example, that was in an Imperial Armor book. That's something they do really, really well. But something where we're talking about an actual character, they're going to give him his actual, his own novel and do a ton of stuff on him. So it's easier for us to cover the novel that way. So that's why you're kind of seeing a bit of a shift in the cast. that's just something that we've kind of learned with time candidly. Yeah.

Don fought Sigisman in, I think Horace, it's the, it was during the Cigetera. What's that like book four? Yeah, one of them. Yeah. Everybody that's, that love everybody finding the cast. It helped you a lot. I really, really like that too. So appreciate all the love.

Necrons are font. They're very playable right now. They're about to get a kick in the shins that they deserve very, very much. No, well, they're about, they, they started to become more fun. I've never been a big Necron fan as far as the fun on the tabletop. I like them in the lore. More different. They are becoming more fun because they're giving them more options and they have a lot more

characters than they used to. And for me, I like a lot of. They're horrific right now. What's that? In what way are they fun right now? It's three C-10s that, the, the, a silent king and a tabling of your opponent in three turns. Yeah, a lot of people like that. That's fun.

No, it's not. Yeah, so captain competition here. No. So Necrons right now, sorry, Trent, actually, I know better than to read screen names. I've learned my lesson. I don't read screen names anymore because I will decide it because I read it phonetically going and that's something, ah, now I'm in trouble. But necrons are awesome.

The issue with the necrons is that I want to play great. just gray tide. That's what it should be. I want to bring a horde of necrons, a monoliths, maybe a reanimator. The current storyline, you can get away with the Destroyer Army. You can get away with some Catan.

You can always do the Great Tide, obviously. I hate the Catans. I hate the Catans. I mean, they're cool in the story right now. No, they're not. They're just slaves. As a customs player, you have my express permission to play space as a world.

Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. C-10 Necrons are in. a spot right now. And they're going to, the nice thing is they won't exist in about two and a half months. Actually, maybe, actually, no, less than that because we'll get a day to sleep soon. I mean, I was just like, actually, we're getting it. We should get a

day to sleep in the next like two days. Hopefully not, because I don't want to have to rewrite all of my lists for Depticon. So I'm hoping we get one in like two weeks. But yeah, they're going to go away. Has King Workshop reached out to you? No. Absolutely not. They don't reach out to anybody, though. So to be fair, no, to be fair, though, I wasn't.

testing back in the day and they did reach out. Come on. When was that? Be fair. Give me a date. The ninth edition. So 20. Bro. Time is irrelevant to someone as old as I, my friend. GW, for stuff like this, they don't really reach out. And I'll be candid. I actually don't want them reaching out because it's more likely going to be a cease and desist than it will be a hey, we'd like to help you out. So. Just a reminder that space marines can be poison. Yeah, they can be. Yeah. And night, well, I'll be guys, Brad never discuss it. Night Fight actually bothers him more because we actually, we do have an entire rule. And we're going to, he and I have to play it together at AdepaCon. On Friday, third mission, where it's going to be too dark. It's just too dark out to play the game. It's so dumb. It's too dark out. So, it's too dark out. So we're going to be orcs because it's never too dark for orcs. And I actually, it's never too dark to punch. Yeah, exactly. It looks, it looks like I found him. But yeah. Yeah, I mean, that rule bothers me so much because we have night fight right now. You know, it also, when you read like the lore just of a regular space breed, his visor sees in 52 different fields.

It's so stupid. I think the U.S. might be literally night fighting right now. The high lords of terror, the good guys, screw you. It actually will be made sure the lights off to play the game. But the problem is I know a bunch of players who would suddenly roll a bunch of sixes, and I will not call them out, but we think we all know who they are. Yeah, exactly. I just punch that way.

Orcs go this way. Punch that way. It's very simple. I'm bringing dinosaurs. They're not dinosaurs. Also, they're not dinosaurs. They look like dinosaurs. They are dinosaurs.

They will always be dinosaurs. They're tyrannids. We've been over this. We've literally covered it. The cast, they're tyrannids. Yeah, that look like dinosaurs. Dinosaurs are good. Which dinosaurs?

I mean, the beast boss on a giant squeakser, it looks like a T-Rex. It does. Look at the bottle. You know what? When we go to Depticon, we'll stop off in Chicago. I'll show you Sue. And you can tell me. Oh, God, yeah. Orcs are awesome.

Yes, there is a rule, unspoken rule, the scream wog, win the turn that you call Wogg. It is a huge rift in orc players of whether you yell it out or not. I'll be honest. I don't yell Wog for multiple reasons. One, my throat's usually jacked by, you know, day two. And two, there's enough people, like, and I'm actually one of them who have certain levels of neurodivergence in the game who really don't like a sudden, loud noise, like a two-

from their face, especially when it's next, you don't see it coming. So out of respect, I'm always like, well, I'm going to call it a day. But can orcs see a hawk lords? Yeah. Yeah, squigoths are tyrannids. Although technically, if your GW hasn't unwritten that, but they have not mentioned it since the models were metal. But I'm not letting it go.

I love this comment. I would have prefaced this that I absolutely. love this about Brad, but your brain is like cards against humanity. So random and it's great. This is me holding back of what's really going through me. I also have no inner monologue, so I will just say random shit out in the middle of places. Yeah. So Brad, so Brad's hatred, loads of terror guys, just seriously, it is real.

It is, it is hilarious. He genuinely gets upset when we talk about them, like the Minotaur cast. We try to keep it to one cast because he will get too upset. Now, the fun thing is I haven't written it yet, so I might just do it. It might be two episodes. The first episode is just all in the history of the Lord's of Tal. All of the creation of the creation of the hours. One hour, no, just one hour in the Lords of Terror.

We'll just go through all of the named Lords of Terror through history. There's so many of them. And all of their achievements. But only the positives. 12,000 years of Lords of Terror. I write the episodes. I'll just do only the positives. I'll just do all the good things each Lord of Terra did.

Uh, actually John does have wine. Where's the wine? Duh. Yeah. I drank all mine to be perfectly honest. Yeah. Where's the wine? It's here.

Um, it's been, I will be honest. I had a, kind of a long week of work travel where I had to take a week off of drinking. Because if I'd looked at another drink, I would have cried. Is there one good, there is one good Lord of Terror. Um, what's his face is, uh, technically a Lord of Terror right now, uh, the custodes. Um, the house. Oh, yeah. I've forgotten it, but yeah.

Trajan. Tritin. Yeah. Try to get with high blood pressure. Honestly, it's not high blood pressure I won't take Browd out. Like that's just... I was just going to say, that's the one thing that I have good is my blood pressure. Meh.

I mean, it's most of the time good. How about that? Didn't you break your blood pressure cough? Yes. So how do you know? It's like, just had one die because I have it all the time. I can fake it. There we go.

Which is done by one of my cardiologists who literally had me wear a 24-hour halter because he thought that I was able to give false readings because I got gained face when I give vitals at the doctor. So he's like, you can figure it out. You're like the dude trying to hit a free throw at the end of the game. Yeah. Yeah. Brad goes into the hospital for a heart condition and tries to make his heart not be in a condition. we'll be right back after a quick break

if you guys said folk how would you balance the customs it's impossible to balance certain things to make them lore uh thing uh i don't like the some of the big stuff because in the game there's still ways to wound everything and you're going to have spiky game so like the more models you have the more

traditional it's going to feel yeah it's going to feel on the board you're going to have good times and bad times. The issue with custodes is candidly, the best way to balance them is to pull their tanks away. I mean, honest, you make them a more boring army. You have to take the tanks away, but that makes them less fun to play.

The tanks are what allow them to play up into a lot of other armies. What makes the custodes in my mind. Yeah, thank you. Thanks, Mario. Thank you. One other super chat, what's up? Just showing some support.

We appreciate it. Thank you so much. But when you look at custodes, what makes the custodes difficult is because of those tanks, they're able to take out almost anything in the game, and they themselves are tanky. So they can hold up. But if you move them to an all-infantry army, they would actually struggle in other stuff. They would balance better. But then it gets boring.

But then you've only got. They were super tough before. I mean, remember when we were doing, bringing 15 Bordons and three-bats. I'm not going to say we should do this, by the way. I'm just, yeah, because every custod player knows those tanks are awesome, look awesome, are awesome. but I'm just calling it out. Like, oh, I have a lot of this. Do you two have any hopes for the upcoming 11th edition like the Rose Balancer Factions?

Yes, 11th edition for me, you're always going to have some imbalance in the different factions, period. It's just going to happen. They're a model selling company and that's just going to go down. I want to get into mechanics where we have things that are just not fun. You can do some manipulations right now in the game that make things not. very thematic and it like the the fight phase right now has some real issues where you can stop people from doing stuff I just were the vortex I want the vortex mind coming back you are the thing hold now we got a super chat here from we get rich five dollars

I bet jettosur why do you think on why jw is changing and how the prime are acted like in the heresy to how they are now in the Lord all right so Gw is trying to bring the primarks back is kind of what's going on so we just saw it's interesting article came out today about the Iron Warriors, and they actually mentioned Petarabo by name, which I have not seen them do in a long time. GW. is leaning much more into the Primarchs, and so what's happening is they're trying to kind of up the personality of the Primarks to make them much more, I would say, complicated

characters. They were always in the lore meant to be side characters. They were never supposed to be part of the game or really a key part of the lore, because they were supposed to all be dead. Because they called them gods of the battlefield, and they were supposed to be so ridiculous. I think that they've wanted to bring them back, but they've also in a lot of the novels now.

They've made them more human. They always have to have their own faults because they just don't lose to regular folks. So they always had to have their own weaknesses. Yeah, but part of this is to keep in mind. So just to people understand, when the first Horacee book came out, That was 2006.

So we are, that was, we're in fourth edition at that point. That's when Horace Rising comes out. Up till that point, they really were side characters. GW then, you know. It was just people. Yeah. They were names. Yeah.

And so that's why it gets a little bit goofy. So when you see, like, why are you seeing this glow up of primarks? Because they're trying to bring them back into the game. But they need to give them complications. And that's why I think you're seeing a lot more of it. You're seeing a lot of the change of what, because they also have to have a reason that, a reason to be here, a weakness so that they can be killed, and they just don't dominate on the tabletop.

But as far as we're going to see people back, I've got a couple of questions on this. I still think you're going to see, I really thought you're going to get Russ a while back when you've been saying that for two decades, Brad Gibbons. I know, but no, since the third, screw you, man. When the 13th legion came back, that was part of the. prophecy. Two decades of Brad being wrong. It was not two decades.

Really? It isn't. How long you've been wrong? He's just trolling me. It's one decade that I've been wrong. Thank you very much. Thank you very much, sir. But I think that you're going to get,

they've been talking about, they've been pushing out of nowhere, Petarabo, but I do think that Vulcan will show up in 11th edition. I think he's the most. likely to show up so since Brad said those things here's what's gonna actually happen neither of those we both know that neither those it's gonna be I think they're gonna bring back Dorn yeah that'll be some of that because that's what it was

they brought back the lion that was my the lion's a badass he is the he is now but if you're thinking about it like of all of them why the lion I don't know to be honest with you I thought they were gonna do more of them the storyline his book was fantastic oh no it's great and that's what I'm saying but that's they brought him back and they gave him a glow up. They'll bring back door. We'll see. Yeah, Dante's titles, by the way, you've asked.

We're just, we do a real quick. We do a Q&A on every quarter. Every two months. Yeah, whatever. It's not. It's every quarter. Yeah. So a couple things like,

Dante, we're going to do all of Dante's titles when we do Dante's cast just because I want to. And honestly, it's going to take me a week to research them all because oh my god there's too many of dante's titles number one um so the other one too is yeah if we're going to do some of these iron warriors we've been wanting to cover them for a little bit i will be ordering the new books they'll be coming out uh let's see they'll go pre-order this next saturday so probably about mid-april will cover it i've been waiting to get this new lore because i didn't want to cover it without the newest lore candidly um story-wise

11th edition, I want it to clean up. Brad and I talked about this in the cast. That's probably coming out next week. But we both think that the storylines gotten a little bit too grim. Not even grim dark, just too grim. Pause on this, we're going to go back because I want to do a counterpoint.

Anna, thank you for the $5 super chat. And the best question that has been asked, there's only one question worth asking, why are bubble chuck is the best unit of the game? Why is it everybody watching hobbying up Max Chuckas? That is super funny. We were talking about that this weekend because I said I want to bring Orkston next year's team event.

And Alan and I were talking about bringing Max Chuckas and bubble chuckas for life. I have 15 over there. Yeah, they're awesome. You know, we should bring those. Let's bring those. We can bring those. Bring artillery chuckas. Yeah.

And then just shove everybody for it. Yeah. I don't mind. I'll bring bubble chuckers. They're hilarious rolling dice. What's going to happen? I don't know. But if I roll hot, you're not going to like it.

Going back to the 11th cleanup thing, I really want, both of us want, like, there's too many, the galaxy's about to die if we don't do this problems right now that they don't have a solution for. And we could write those into 11th issue. Not super easy, but pretty easy. Yeah, I think what's going to happen? My problem is we've got the High Fleet Leviathan eating the galaxy. The Necrons fully awakening. We've got Botan assigned to just go conquer the galaxy. We've got Eldar probably going to do something really stupid because they always like to do that.

The Rift, which I think is one of the worst things that they've done narratively, is ripped a hole in the galaxy and technically is doomed the galaxy. It's just there's too much going on. So narratively, I'd like the 11th edition of them just to kind of clean it up a little bit. I don't need the Imperium to start winning, but I'd like it to at least appear like maybe they could. Right now they shouldn't have a chance. They have larger than the Imperium-sized threats everywhere. So something needs to flip.

Yeah, and that's the – I don't need the impurem just to die. And that's kind of what this is right now. It's like everyone hits the Imperium. And I think what my opinion is that they'll have some of these other factions are fighting each other. But we'll see. Who knows? Yeah, because like someone asked what would happen if the Imperium focused on one enemy at a time. They'd lose.

Well, everyone would attack. Yeah. Yeah. That's the problem. Right now, the Imperium is, has the most area, like, not even close. There are imperiums everywhere in the galaxy. And the problem is, is that they're being attacked everywhere. And that's one of the biggest problems with the Rift, for instance, the way the Tyrannins are attacking, the necrowns right now.

People are everywhere, and they're all too big of a problem for the impairment to do anything else. The imperatives should be getting its ass to hand it right now. And I'm not talking crap on them, but I'm being accurate. The Tao are barely a speed bump. Tau take a lot of abuse, and I know they do, and I feel bad. My abuse to them is A, eighth edition shield drones, and also B, they're literally the only faction. They are the only faction who are diminutive. Every other faction is huge.

The Votan outnumber the Imperium. The Craft World Eldar may outnumber the Imperium. The Drukari outnumber the Imperium. The Necrons outnumber the Imperium. The tyranids outnumber the Empire. And there's the Tao where it's like they're a Glee Club plus like two other Glee clubs and they're over there. And that's what's written at.

But they've got special suits. Tau or a barbershop quartet. Yeah. It just sends it. That's, that's, and it's, it's not my fault. They write him this way. It's the same way I feel about the white scars. I have no actual issue with the white scars.

Their horse heresy lor is cool. I think their models are cool. Jaguaric Khan's a little bit lame sometimes, but he's fine. But they just decided to stop writing about him. So I'm going to keep making fun of it until GW brings them back. Oh, God, it's going to be Con. It'll be the next prime mark they'll bring back, and I'll have to eat all of them.

this. Someone's going to be like, oh, cool. 150 casts of John talking crap on something. It's like, oh, actually, he's at the biggest glow up of them all. I did play Tao when two times now. I didn't play when they were the most broken, but I did play them in eighth. Was it eight when I did play them when they were the most broken? Really? Really? I didn't play them with the drone madness. Eighth edition was their most busted. For sure. Come on. Yeah, no, that was that because that was just they could abuse the there's rules so horribly. Yeah, I play them when I could do all the suit nonsense and everything,

but they didn't have the drone nonsense. Yeah, the drone nonsense was just dumb. The problem with the issue with the drone nonsense, it was actually, I will defend the Tal drone nonsense with, it was less the drone nonsense and more the terrain rules plus the drone nonsense because you couldn't fight up. You had all the drones behind the wall. Yeah, and you couldn't fight up.

So you also could put things on top of a wall, so I had to literally climb up a wall if I couldn't fit on, I couldn't fight them. So you could just stand on the platform and I had to shoot something. It was just dumb. Yeah, they're just dumb. So, yeah, I just realized how

dumb my screen name is, as usual. I don't do screen names, and I'm the oldest of old men. I didn't even know what my YouTube screen name was, and it's just my name and my birthday. I am what your grandma uses as the screen date. Yes, old man, Brad. God, we can't take you anywhere.

Oh, God. Most likely to have ever seen a hearing of Reducted Primark Legions. I have my own dream on that. So one of the issues with this game, and I'm, ooh, I might get some grief for this, but I'm going to do it. It's an all-male game. the only female characters that have existed until reason with the custodes were the sisters. And so it was kind of, it was very, and then Guard was the first one they started making actually multi-gender.

Eldar. Eldar. Come on, man. LDard. You're right, Eldar. And females forever. I forgot they made Eldar mammals for some weird reason. But the point I'm making, though, is that what would have been nice is since the space marines have to all be male, I think the redacted legions would get them in the ability to actually make female legion.

they could sit there and say, oh, yeah, this one prime mark was female, and therefore it would have to be, because that's how it has to work, it would have to be an all-female Legion. I think it would be cool. Just personally, I think it would be super cool to make it have an all-female Legion. I might use this one. When one is as old as the sundial, one does not worry about screen names. Yes, yeah.

But yeah, so that's my thing on that one. Leave me and Russ pre-order. Yeah, confirmed. Any day now. Any day now. I will eventually be right. Yeah. I think someone wrote Silent Prince of the, I think he meant Silent King.

He got real active recently in the Nephilim sector. He's doing, but he also just got. He's probably next to stuff. A Brian Nexus is right. But he then got a side attacked by the Stormlord. So he's doing some stuff. Yeah. But see, sisters of battle, the thing about Sisters of Battles, it's not quite the same.

I would just like to see a power, like an actual like super soldier. There are anybody else, man. Yeah, no. Well, again, because that's how it always is. To be fair, the sisters should just be the fighting force of the, of the, so the sisters let you, they can wear power armor and they can carry bolters like a space marine can. They can carry melters like a space marine can and heavy bolters like a space marine can. And I don't lose one in a thousand of the ones I make.

So it feels like we should just do more of them. but anyway, that's how the math works. And here we go. Yeah, so I actually do. So Bushtop, I've played a game of 40K against yourself. That's actually how I practice. I have kind of, because of my job and whatnot, you know, if I want to practice 40K, I might practice like at 6 o'clock in the morning because I'm awake.

And if I work on deployment, I want to do that kind of stuff. I'll pop my table up over there. put it up and I can actually, I mean, I own 12 armies. I'll put him out and kind of play over the course of, like, almost like playing chess against yourself. I wouldn't do that when I was a kid. You can kind of, I'll literally play one faction, one full turn and then walk away. And then I'll come back later and play the next faction of full turn and walk away.

And it's a way to kind of, it's not easy to do, but it's a good way to learn the game. Well, I would say, I deploy my army quite a bit by myself. I deploy it and I take a first turn to see where my movement's going to take me and make sure that I'm deployed in such a way that I can move to where I want to be. If you're looking for actual games, you can play Tabletop Simulator and they have quite a few people from all over the world playing that right now. You can always get a game on Tabletop Simulator if you're looking. Yeah. We're talking about Tabletop. But yeah, it's a cool way to kind of learn the game.

Yeah, Prince Uriel is back, which is still weird. So they, it was, here's well say, the Prince Uriel coming back was kind of funny because for those of us who have been playing for a while, the closet over there is where I keep all my Legends models. And I was like, should I throw them all away? And then Prince Uriel came back. I'm like, apparently not because I guess everything gets those legends is temporary. I like the Corsair armies that are coming in.

I think it adds a lot of flavor to the game. Prince Uriel has been the Han solo of one. I'm at 40K for a while now for the Eldar. So I like those fleets coming in and out and being kind of morally gray and what they're trying to achieve. The rules are crap. They can do some weird things. They had some cool strats.

They're crap. Being able to move 14 in a turn is pretty cool. And then die. Ah. And then Insta die. And then Insta die. Cheapest faction to own right now is still custodes. It will always be custodes.

The custodes, because their points, are the cheapest ones to own. You can pick them up pretty expensively. Yeah, literature. I mean... I was thinking if it's cheap, though, like, you can get some... If you're willing to buy used armies... Well, use the space marines. Space Marines are always cheap.

But the problem is you don't get good stuff. The issue is custodes. The line is so limited that you can get a custod army that's actually playable. Space Marines, you can get a lot of firstborn. You can get devastators. You can get a lot of stuff that's going to suck for six months. months, but that might be good. As far as cheap literature,

y'r, you'll figure out what my reference is there. You can probably find the literature. Yeah, so TTS, Discord is probably a good way. So someone's asked, I can't find someone on TTS. There's a few discords for TTS. I'll drop some groups in the Discord

tomorrow stuff. Yeah, TTS, I've heard is reliable. I don't play it. I found it annoying, so I did it once and went nope and then uh really it's funny because i don't play very many games on tts but i do use ttsk to coach and i use tts to deploy a lot yeah like i'm in the court of yeah so the uh used is a great market for for warhammer um it's actually how i built up my first army especially if you're into a faction's lore that are hot garbage in the tabletop oof, can you get them cheap?

Like, when do I'm in Necron's earlier? It's the best time. It's a good time to buy Necron Warriors right now. Pretty good time to buy Necron Warriors. It's not going to cost you a whole lot. So, yeah. I do like to have too fat. If you're playing 40K, and you're going to stay,

you're planning on playing and stay 40K for a while, I would play two factions. I mean, I play everything because I have the attention span of a gnat. And John just likes to have things. Yeah. Yeah. Brad plays things. But you only own what, three armies? I owns a sum of all because I own chaos. I own Eldar. I have orcs. Are you a playable amount though?

Yeah. Okay. Like I have 2,000 points of Brad painted orcs right now. Okay. I look bad. I look really bad. Someone asked, we're going on. So someone came in later. Yeah, we are at Depticon. I'm there every single day. Brad is there every day but Thursday. Um, uh, Necron.

Yes, the Teseracht vault looks awesome. That's where it ends. Same with the Triok stalker. Looks awesome. And that's where it ends. Uh, it's fine. They're cool. I, uh, I love Necron.

In fact, like I have to fight. Teserac's vaults are super cool because of the fact that you have pieces, like legitimate pieces of star gods in them. Oh, yeah. The test rock, the lore and it's cool. It's just they were, they were good for, I think, like, six weeks and then rapidly stopped being so. Yeah, they were really, for a while, they were crazy, though.

You bring three Tessaract Valtz, it was your whole army, basically. Yeah. You bring three Tessarik vaults in the deceiver. Yeah, the, uh, the crude episode, we'll go back. I owe the Tau players. Well, we're going to probably going back through some of these guys. We're going to have to do another Tau episode at some point talking more about, like, some of the battles over the area at which point.

Also, all the races that they, they pulled in. Mm-hmm. So used armies eBay candidly. That's where I used to buy stuff. eBay's still the best spot. There's some, my mini something or other came out, but I'll be honest, eBay's better, especially in the U.S. Yeah, sorry, the flags guy.

So I'll just be candid about the store. We have a, there's a bunch of stuff I have that's got our stuff on it that is unique to us. Those flags, I'd have to get them custom made. And I don't feel like having a bunch of stuff in my house to ship out. So all the website's mostly custom. Like, uh, when you order it, it's then made for you and ship to you. It's why the shipping's cheap because I don't want someone in like New Zealand being like, hey, I'd love one of your flags. I'm like, cool, just give me 40 bucks. And then $150 for shipping.

I just like, so, um, maybe in some time in the future, we'll put some more stuff on there. We guys talk about the fact with the, the towel trying to create their own space rates. Well, I want to talk we'll talk about that more but we'll also talk about when they tried to create their own warp drive we talked about that in the town cast that was funny that was great yeah when they event horizon to themselves like oh yes what could go wrong and they came out what is it like the year later just like uh huh yeah um it was awesome that was oh that was just objectively funny they did like that with the swedes launched the biggest battleship of all time and went it's tall and not wide enough.

Yeah. These things happen. Oh, the Tao episode would be, yeah. Just so you guys know, way to the Tao episode, the original plan was just to have it come on, me go, boo, and it end. And then that was going to be it. And we realized people wouldn't have gotten a joke.

Yeah. The eight-chaust god think, there's a bunch of different lore theories on whether other races have produced gods for one. And let us talk about where the elder gods sit in that and stuff like that. So there's a lot of. Yeah, the god's situation in 40K is tricky.

So we're going to cover at some point this summer end of death. So if you haven't read it yet, hurry up. We'll be right back after a quick break. Effectively, there's a very massive reveal in it that we need to get to. some point and I've been giving everyone time because that book sold out almost immediately and scalpers were selling it for like $500. You can download it. You've been able to download it for a while.

Again, you can't figure out of your book, though. Yeah, that's what I was referring to. But you can, I guess you can pay for it too. But whatever you want to do. I consistently have a lot of audio, audible credits. So I do a lot of that. It's fine. I happen to own every single.

Codex ever made somehow in PDF form, you know, because I paid for it all. Well, anyway, but you do, you can get them all that way, but end of death is a big reveal. I think after that, it'll be fun to kind of talk about some of the gods situation throughout 40K, because the Eldar gods, we covered a little bit in the Eldar cast, but I do want to dive a bit more into what are some of these beings and kind of how this they function. because one of the cool things to me about 40K is gods are real. Gork and Mork are real. You know,

the cane is or was real. Like all of them were real. These are not, it's not, it's not mythology. And I would love to kind of dive a bit more deeply into that and spend a real amount of time on it, but I can't until we cover end of death.

So, yeah, so that's. But it still goes with, that book still goes with a lot of the current beliefs. You know what I mean? No, it does. It just, it solidifies one of the big ones. That's what I'm going with. It brought a big one around.

And I just, again, I'm teasing us a lot. People who've read it know what I'm talking about. People who don't may know what I'm talking about. It always lets us get in this stuff like King and Yellow. It just, there's so much stuff we can do once we've covered that book. So it's kind of been slowing us down a little bit. But it's out of respect because it is such a heavy tone. and it's so expensive.

And a lot of it is kind of, honestly, not dull, but a lot of it's filler. And there's like five or ten major reveals in it that are massive. I was just what to say. Yeah. I don't know if the book was that good. All I know is that they had so many. Booms.

Yeah. Slam moments. And that's the thing. So with those kind of moments in there, out of respect to the people who bought it, I'm like, hey, I'll imagine you guys get time to get through it. But after like three or four years,

I'm like, man, it's kind of the same way. I'll spoil the ending of Game of Thrones at this point. Like, you know, you've had your chance. You can go see it now. Yeah. So that's kind of like gives you a back on where we're going. Corkin Worker awesome. The book is the series, The End of Death.

This is the final assault on Terra by Horace. And it ends obviously with the emperor killing Horace. In the last book, actually, actually, all of books have some pretty major reveals. They add some pretty serious bits to the lore that never existed before. But one of the- They were theories, though. They took big theories and made them canon.

Exactly. But the last one involves the emperor very heavily. And that's the one that has some massive reveals in it, which is pretty cool. You can go look it up if you want, but it's just a big reveal. And I'd like to just not ruin someone's... reading. So there we go. But yeah, so that's that one. But yeah. So we're at an hour.

We can go for a little bit longer. I'm still awake. I'm surprised. John has early bedtimes. John likes early bedtimes. So get up stupidly early. I like 5 a.m. 5 a.m.'s awesome. It's quiet. I'm up at 5 a.m., but it's usually because I haven't slept yet. Yeah. Yeah. My 5 a.m. is a happy 5 a.m. I get up at 5 a.m.

I'm well slapped. I feed the dog. I make some coffee. It's a good 5 a.m. You're 5 a.m. is a tragic one. It's just, yeah. It's just me going, oh, hatred and anger is the only thing that keeps me alive.

Yeah. It's like, it's the super troopers. Mine, I have good, I have fun shenanigans, good shenanigans. Yours are evil shenanigans. You have the Farba shenanigans. The Farba 5am. Um, do I like prunes? No.

no you know who you knew who likes them less than me Brad and his GI tracked no prunes don't exist yeah this week's poll was fun

that one actually it was the first one I actually brought that was actually serious well sort of Brad did not win an arm wrestling contest with the emperor

he thinks he could but I would wreck that guy armlessly by the way I'm so bad and my arms are so short that's what I was going to say You couldn't arm wrestling because of arm.

Lever arms exist. Yeah. Yeah. I should lose to everybody. I put up my little T-Rex and go, yeah. Yeah, Kairon's death was, it could have been cool.

I'm with you on that one. There's a few of those. Like, I actually, sorry, this also reminds me, one thing that, those who don't know in the end of the 500 World's book is where they have the email for whatever you want to call it, from the lion to Gilliman saying,

brother, we should meet. Should talk. And everyone's all excited about this. But you know who I'm more excited? Not even we should. We have to talk. Fine. You what I'm more excited for when Bjorn finds out those two are back.

That's the one I'm, like, I want Bjorn to be sent there and be like, hey, did you know they're back and have him just wandering and be like, you know you're both a-holes, right? I do love that Bjorn is the voice of reason all the time. Yeah. King and Yellow, yes. We're going to do King and Yellow.

We're going to do a bit more Eisenhorn as well. I love Eisenhorn. I love Eisenhorn. It's maybe my favorite of all of the writing. I actually, because personally, I like the modern writing. The stories more than I like the Horacee stuff. It's nothing against the writing. I just find the stories more interesting about like common life.

The Eisenorm, stuff I think, is just fantastic. That's what I like the most. King and Yellow is super cool, but it's more, it's like super reveal-y and like, ooh, like, what's the mystery? Whereas I'm more into just Eisenorm, it's like, oh, man, life and the pyramid kind of sucks. Yes, I want more Cizsor-Ass, which I still stand by as a proper pronunciation for him. I forgot that one.

Cisor-ass. Cisoris, whatever. Cisoris. It's Cizor S. It's not my fault. It works phonetically. Yeah, the big reveal's big. Yeah, yes.

The big reveal for a change is a huge. Yeah, it is a huge reveal. Yeah, that's why we're holding off because it is one of those things of like, I don't want someone being like, I was on, I was almost there. And then you guys wrecked it. And like, yeah, don't worry, I'll pronounce some of it wrong. You wrecked it. you told me that he was dead the whole time.

The kids saw dead people. Yeah. It's been 20 goddamn years. Yeah. I'm from Philadelphia. That movie was a big deal for all of us. Look, our city's in a movie. And then fast forward a lot later and really.

Eh. Vidal War for Custodes. I mean, they should actually have. No. No, Valador. No, no, Valder. I don't want to have any rules. It's the same way when they pulled Dante out of the, the, um,

Grey Knights, I felt bad for Grey Knights. Drago, sorry, Drago, you're right. They pulled Drago out of the Grey Knights. It was annoying, but the truth was his rules were garbage for who, for what he was. Because he's been walking around the warp with the boots of mighty ass kicking gone, just sending people packing. So the guy who wanders around the warp and even corners like, look, just leave him alone. Like, comes on the tabletop and I kill him with Greshon.

Like, that just doesn't work for me. It gets, that's the same reason they pulled Vect. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, you don't have to. That's, let's call it. That's the reason they pulled Vect. The reason they pulled Vect because the model they made for Vect has some questionable elements to it.

So perhaps we can't have this anymore because, all right. I mean, they could remake it, but I'm just throwing it out there. That model is. not going to last a lot longer. Yeah. He had two models. He had the walking guy and he had the sketchy chains. There was a walking guy.

I thought the only thing you had for him was the boat. You had both for a while. You had both for a while. Okay, cool. Well, anyway, yeah, I have the boat. And that's my model of him. Yeah. I would like to be, I love it if he would play,

if Cavill played Eisenhorn. He's asking who you would want to play, Brad. Yeah, exactly. If Cavill plays Eisenhorn, then you and he would have a retinue, and we could be part of that. I'd like to be the Eldar. You want to be Eldar.

I'd want to be the most non-Eldar of Ard. You want to be Eldar. So you want this show canceled. You couldn't, they couldn't even CGI you into being Eldar. Like that technology doesn't exist. exist. This was such a poor choice.

Oh, my God. What happened? Like, oh, just the reviews. Yeah, sure, they've never added a primark. This is an interesting thing. I, on the one hand, love the primarks. Are available for playing the tabletop because I think it's kind of funny. But it also has done a lot of damage to the game.

There's such great models, though, man. Yeah. Centerpiece models look cool. Yeah, I got four of them in there. Yeah, I like Primarks. They look good. The problem with 40K has been balancing against lore has always been an issue, and things like Primarks really wreck that.

It was already hard with Scarbrand and even just bloodthirsters being on the board. They've always been there. Remember, for a while, we had the first of the greater demons. You had Alphabet soup and the... Well, Alphabet soup's rules actually worked just great. If we're being honest, Alphabet soups, the original rules for Alphabet soup were perfect for a greater demon of Zich. No, because he had the first of them, the best of them, because they used to have all of them and they cost, whatever the numbers were. Remember?

Yeah. 888, 777, 99. You know what I mean? Those were really cool. Yeah, but I mean, I'm just more saying the rules. never matched up, but now that you mentioned, it was seventh edition when Alphabet Soup was the most powerful model in the game, right?

Well, he could just bomb the board. Yeah. So that one, that one made sense. He put, that one made sense. Five plates, yeah. Just on everything, yeah. And you would roll for them, yeah. Yeah, yeah, he used apocalyptic blast thing. Yeah, that was, that was bad.

Yeah. He was crazy. Yeah, I'm just going with that, like, yeah, that was the first time actually had proper rules. But overall, the issue with the primarks coming back is more of a balanced challenge. I think it's made the lore pretty cool. I do think that what we were talking about a lot earlier, where we have the challenge of the Imperium is just losing. Bringing back the loyalist Primax does give them a way to right foot it.

Bringing back the chaos primarks just gives cool models. Like Angron's not going to win the war for chaos. It's Angron. Now there's more tyranny. He's too whiny. is too distracted. So just calling what they are. I mean, to be fair, Aramon's a more effective threat to the Imperium than Magnus's.

I mean, I would say that Magnus is probably the most effective of getting his guys together of the people that are out right now. Yeah, but I mean, if you look at Aramon's better again together than Magnus's. Oh, 100%. Most of the chosen are, most of the chosen are not primarks, for sure. Sure. Yeah, but that's where those guys are. I don't know. I mean, that's, that's kind of, I'm always torn on that one because I think it does make the game fun. But on the other hand, I do recognize people like, hey, the Primark shouldn't be in the game. But the same time, I have a bigger issue with Knights in the game than I do with Primarks in the game. I agree on that 100%. Yeah. Well, Corex would now be an amazing model. Just a big shadow demon. Yeah, I was just want to say he's a deep.

Let's be honest. To be far, Corex is just a straight invisible demon prince, like hunting down people in the warp. Yeah. I'm a big fan of the apocalypse rules. So as someone who owns 63,000 points of Warhammer, yeah, I'm a fan of apocalypse games. You also love big shit. You love big shit way more than I do. But here's a I don't, not as much as you'd think, though, because I don't own knights.

In my entire orc collection, there's no stompah, no gorgonaut, no morganot. Like, I actually have an ungodly collection of just crap. Yeah, no, no, no, but I'm saying you like your big tanks and stuff. I do like big tanks. I would play an apocalypse game and I would just bring infantry and have so many of them. Yeah, I can't be how your back got hurt. Anyway. I did, you know, I had like a five or six year span where I just brought straight horde.

for multiple years. Yeah, because it worked. Yeah, it worked. But yeah, Apocalypse games are super fun. Just the issue with them is you cannot play them in a store. Never get sucked into that. Like, we're going to do an apocalypse game.

It's not fun. You're going to play Apocalypse, go to a friend's house where you can leave the board there for multiple weeks and play it over like four or five weekends. It's really fun that way. You go over, you drink beer, you play Warhammer for like five hours and you leave,

and you pick it up again a week or two later. it's super fun yeah uh yeah bainblade yeah bainblades rule weirdo miniature i have a lot of those uh let me like the red gobbow was awesome that's that's recent that thing was cool as shit well the red gobbo like no that might mean what's the uh the blue scribes is one of my favorite lore ones i've just got i also get non gw miniatures though so i've got a bunch of artel i've got creature caster i've got a bunch of that stuff. Some of those are super cool. I do love a lot of the really bad miniatures though, because

I still loved with warp spiders were just that static Tuscan Raider pose. Oh, God, no. I don't. I hate it. I mean, that was the worst of playing old one. It's so dumb. Just every time they were the worst. Yeah, there's

a bunch of like super random miniatures, though, that just look like hot garbage that are kind of fun. What's just nuts? Not Caius. What's the guy? with the orc power claw. He's no longer in the game. Yeah.

That was one of my favorite. I mean, that model's right there. That's one of my favorite models. Just a random dude with an ork power claw holding above his head that's bigger than his head. You know what you liked. Abidon's model with the sick-ass top-nought, baby.

Top-nots are stupid. Top-nots are amazing. How did it even happen? I don't know. I never were the top-knot thing came. came from like also how do you make a top knot and I mean again I've had short hair I could do a top not the way that my hair grows and I can definitely have that top knot gravity's a thing I will make I'm gonna make that happen

rarest mini I own that's I might have some goofy I'd have to check it's going be one of my resin ones I have some I have some weird stuff that was just given away a certain like certain only at certain tournaments. So I've got a couple of those. I can tell you where they are because they're at Sniggs' his house. It's probably that's rigorous thing. Where am I assassins? One second. Do you have any of the, you remember the fantasy stuff with Felix and D'Rtec?

Fantasy? Yeah. Fantasy was awesome. Titans in the collections. So I bought this in 1992. This is an original vindic. this is one of the rare ones. I have a bunch of metal. So anything I have that's rare is going to be metal. I do have a good chunk of pewter.

Also, why did I, both of us just had a brain fart with that. Yark. Yark, yeah, thank you. Yeah. Yeah. So from rarest stuff, I have a good, not a lot, but I've got, I, I have, it's actually all Imperium that I have, it's pewter, but I've got a good collection of pewter Imperium that I would have bought in the early 90s.

You don't have Eldart pew? I might have one or two Eldart pewter, but it's very, it's very rare because the Eldar Puder was just shit. Yes, it was and I own a bunch of... It was so bad. Like old wraith lords, the old wraithlords. The, yeah, there was bad. The thing was the Imperium pewter actually looked good.

That's the difference. So I had a bunch of that. I think I have some scouts sitting around somewhere. Can I get my trophy? No. Just like, don't leave stuff. I mean, that seems silly. I'm definitely going to leave stuff.

Yeah. I don't, you know, I have no Titans. The only thing I have close to a Titan is a Gargantuan Squigoth. I don't like Titans. Which you love too much. It's awesome.

It's actually cool. I don't like, I just don't like Titans. I don't like, so funny. I'm not like, yeah, I just like big shooty things.

Oh, except for my Bainblade. I like that. I was just, let's say, I was going to call you out about that. You don't like big shooting? Except for my Bain blade.

Because the Bainblade is awesome. The Bainblade's different. The Bainblade is a big, super tank. It doesn't even make any sense. You're a bang blade. It's a bane blade. All right.

So here's what is. It doesn't make sense having a big bipedal thing. You just shoot one leg and it falls over. I don't understand it. But big tank thing, that makes more sense to me. Just calling it out. But you like certain. You like the bane blade.

Also, again, the fact that you're pinkies out for your super heavy tanks. Yeah. Uh, melee Zeno's orcs. Marks. It's full stop. It's not, 100%. Yeah, it's just orcs. I mean, you can do it with Chukari, but it's orcs.

Um, I have a big white squeak. There's over there. Mazz. Yeah, I have Mazz. He's in there. He's in the closet. Yeah. Um, but yeah, it's my, I mean, I own the entire orc line except for gork, gork not morca not stompa.

And I just don't care for them. It's the only reason why. Um, oh, life has started to show interest in playing. What's an easy armor for her to paint and learn? Space Marines. Space Marines. I was just saying, I was going to give it. It's always space Marines.

It's always going to be space Marines. Just ever play Ultramarines. Why? Ultramins are awesome. Yes. They're good. Oh, I thought you said never play Ultramarines. I was like, what?

Have her? Oh, yeah, exactly. It makes total sense. We'll be right back after a quick break. The worst model ever made. Oof. To play or to put together? Without shield drone.

The worst, so the worst model ever built would have been resin. Oh, man, there's better people to ask for this, but there have been some resin models over the years that were almost unbuildable. By looks. So I'm going to give you two on that or not. I'm going to give you one that was just. They're definitely old. No, remember the original obliterator that you were.

Oh, God. glue each gun with a one flat piece and it would just it would look like the guy from scary movie um in the end this strong hand yeah yeah it looks so dumb yeah it was oh yeah that model was so stupid oh yeah well the if you put it together perfectly which no one as soon as you touched it it fell apart yeah there was a few because yeah people are talking about like the worst model by looks. I'm actually with a person here who brought up the Nurgle Demon of Prince. I never liked how that thing looked. People did like it. But there were models they made that were almost unassembledable. I mean, that was

the stuff that was rough. Because when you had resin, resin, you had to clean it, then you had to brush it, and then you had to use super glue. And even with super glue, it didn't bond very well. Because GW somehow managed to make a resin that was resistant to all bonding agents. I don't know how they found it, but it must have been cheap. Yeah, they were rough. Yeah. So Tyrannids, tyranids are hit and miss on paint. I own for 9,000 points of tyranids. They're not that hard to paint if you just don't want to paint them well. Yeah. I own almost every tyrannid. It just matter how hard you want to paint.

Tarkarodans are fine. I'm literally painting them right now. I'm painting Carcadons right now. That's what my attack-the-kind army is. Carcadodes are fine. Yeah. How do we feel about the new Iron Warriors lore and pretty coming back? I actually like that quite a bit because of the fact that I think they've dropped the ball on Iron Warriors as far as a go-to-cahast army that's just not an Abidon crusade.

Yeah. Because of the fact that they're chaos undivided, they kind of turn their back. They're not even full chaos. I mean, they aren't full chaos, but they didn't go to anyone God. The whole reason they did was just a spiteful reason to fight Dorn. But I think that they've been actually, in a lot of the stories, they were, they've been active in playing small roles. They should have been out in the actual lore of playable 40K. I think that they should have been back for a while.

Yeah. Yeah. So I'm pointing out like the bikes, like how tough bikes are to. to build anything on a stand. So here's the thing I'm gonna give everyone advice. If you're buying anything that's on a flying stand, especially, find an alternative to the flying stand.

You can get 3D printed versions of them that you can replace them with. Do that, it's always better. The GW flying stands are garbage. Every flying stand though, and every modeling game is garbage. So just for, you get some really cool stuff. Let me rock it out.

in a super chat here. William Goodrich, thank you so much, Brother with the vitalist, super chat. Hey, guys, if Calgar would be killed, how would the Ultraman's hierarchy

change and would captains change and how would a new one be picked? So Calgar is in a unique situation in the fact that he is, well, it's not unique anymore

because the lion came back, but I guess... No, Gilliman came back. No, no, no. That's Calgar. So Calgar, when Gilliman came back,

he's still he's the chapter master Gilliman is the lord pimp daddy whatever I can't remember his title that he just chose of the Imperium and then you've got captains so effectively what would happen if

Calgar ever got if they broke through Calgar's plot armor and actually killed him you would have one of the captains be would be reason to yeah probably

actually probably right now just Agamemnon. He's the captain the first. First company. He was, they still have to get voted in. And it's going to be Agamemnon. He has a, he has a real name, guys, but you know, just listen to the 500 world's cast. We explain it well. We, neither of us can pronounce his real name. It's just. And it also looks like Agamemnon. It's close. It has an A, a G, and an M in it. So you and I are both like, Agamemnon. But when a chapter master dies, they, they have a captain get raised up and then effectively everybody else gets promoted. Yeah.

But each, each company has a captain in it. So, and that's how they work. Another person was asking about Seer Council. Yeah, Sierra Council.

So the thing about, for anyone new to the game, I've said this before and I'm going to say it again. This game changes every three months. GW puts out new rules. Some armies can be garbage for six, nine months, but over time,

they get better. Pick an army you find interesting and just buy as much of it as you want to buy and eventually it'll probably be good. I have literally dusted models off to go play before because they had sat in the back of my closet. Everything bad will become good. Everything good will eventually be bad. Last Adepticon, I pulled looters out of that closet that hadn't been on the board since 8th edition and they were fun until they realized that DACA DACA attachment was a no and they went away. So that's just always my advice. If you see something cool, play it, enjoy it. It'll get good eventually and then 11th edition is going to jack everything up anyway.

Yeah, so people who are don't know when we talk about some time using hot water. So you have now this magic thing called plastic that we get to build models out of. GW started off with pewter and they had some crappy plastic. And then for a while there, they went with this cast resin and it was weird. It would it would come to you warped. So especially the forge world. And I'm not joking about this. You would spend $300 on a Leviathan dreadnought.

$300. A regular dreadnought is $40. And the dreadnought would come to you in a big box with lots of parts on it. And most of the parts were crooked. And the box would say in it, some of these parts may be crooked. If so, put them in hot water and straighten them yourself. I was just about to say, remember when you'd have all of the spears and any long guns would just be. be like an arc.

Yeah. Always. My, um, my shadow spectres are up there. Yep. Like half my shadow spectres guns are just like the, are, are,

or, or, or, our, uh, so yeah, it sucked. Um,

the metal middies were great back in the day. Although there was, what is the Lord, was not the Lord of us. What was the guy on the, the bowl that you could put in a sock and kill somebody with? Oh,

just multiples of that. The, the, it was an all, The writer on juggeron. Yeah. The juggeron. Juggard on Lord.

Juggad on Lord's writers. That was a full, all metal model with spikes. Probably like the size of this tape measure. And just solid metal. And you could just put in a sock and beat someone with it if you needed to. I think it was bigger than that tape measure. It was so big. Yeah.

Yeah. Carcarodons are, yeah. So if you guys come by, you want to see at the team tournament, my team, we are, we're Carcaranons. So come through, we've got. a pretty impressive collection. So that's going to be fun. Let me hit it.

Let me fast click a couple of these. Necron's will never get their bodies back because it would jack up the story. Eldar, all of the Eldar detachments have played. Sear console is a little bit difficult to play if you've, you're not used to playing Eldar.

It's a tough detachment. It's very good though. Yeah. So the one person says, I hate to keep nerfing Eldar. Fun thing about Eldar. Eldar have my favorite tradition. which is every single edition they get a codex,

and every time they get a codex, everyone gets mad because it's the most busted codex of the edition, or at least in the top five. So Eldar get nerfed partly because, though, and this is a weird caveat, I'm an Eldar player and an Ork player, and both of them I own the entire line. I can make an Eldar army that's just good.

Eldar really hard to nerf, because whenever you nerf them, like what happens, Eldar players will only play what's good. And then so you nerve it thinking you've solved the problem. And then they go, okay, cool, option B. And then option B comes up. And it's like, wait, this is also just as good?

Yeah, I just was playing that one. And then they just nuclear. Yeah, and they have to do it over and over and over and over again until it's like, fine, the faction just sucks now. Yeah. Is there any chance you could move your cursor so you're not palming my head all the time? That's not my cursor.

That's not my. It's not my cursor. Yeah, it's not my cursor. I think that was your cursor. No, it was a. He moved it over it. I wasn't popping me. Yeah.

Yeah. So, gray nights, they're not great right now. Yeah. Minutes are fine-ish. That's fine. They're good. Yeah, but also,

GW won't make Titus the chapter master. He doesn't, he's not good enough for that. Titus is, because they, and I'll explain why, though, it's because they, they need Titus doing stuff. Calgar doesn't really do anything. He just is he's in charge. He's

rarely fighting in battles except in rare occasions. Titus they have to throw into battles all the time so he's a much better like second company captain because then they can be like, oh and Titus and go and Titus go and Titus go. You can't have the chapter master out there actually doing stuff. So if rule, man, if they got rid of the rule of three. Oh, The rule change, I've known. No, the lore is not out of that much. The lore changes like once every three or four years significantly. We get new books a lot, but there'll be very small changes.

We see the most significant lore changes at addition shifts. I was about to say that as far as the lore goes, we get lore dumps. So we don't get consistent lore all the time, but we get a lot of lore. So it's, we get more lore than we get rules changes, but we get it in weird, varied ways. Because you get like a huge amount of lore. Well, we're at the end. of the edition so I've got my maelstrom is right there 500 worlds is down there I'll be getting all the books as they come out we're getting a lot of lore now and this is that's pretty

standard as we get to the end of the addition they'll dump a bunch of lore and the start of 11th we'll get another lore bump but once we're in the addition it won't move a lot um uh hold on real quick I try to play to play to look story you have to have your codex and mission deck to play uh second hand they should let you use the app The app is almost always accepted. The app's okay. So what they're pushing back on is mission deck. It's complicated.

It depends. You can still use that. They wouldn't let you use the tournament app. I'm actually weird. That's actually not very common. Most everybody will let you use the app for your army, the GW app to make your army and your rules. And then you can use the tournament app.

The tournament app doesn't have the mission, doesn't have the rules in it though the tournament app for the cards sure but i'm saying is you have both if you have your if you have the app for your army and you have the tournament app the tournament app doesn't have the rules for the cards so if you if you draw behind enemy lines it doesn't tell you what that means oh well i play with cards because i'm an old man but also you also you also have them all memorized that's why i'm saying i know for you it's like you have them all memorized that's why So that's why it's not common, but some stores will do that. It depends on the store.

Candidly, this is the downside. Some not all stores are equal. Some stores are much more open and want more players in. Some stores are not. Why is Little Brian my favorite 40K player ever? Oh. I actually do love Little Brian. He's super fun.

good too. Good God, did he beat the crap out of me one time with world leaders? Oh my God. Yeah. But yeah, Titus is the big poster boy right now because Space Marine 2 made GW a lot of money. That's how that one works. We do need more Alan. We always need more Allen. And we're getting a bit more Alan. He's enjoying these casts a lot more. And he got recognized, so he's now excited. Yeah, he's into this.

I think Vashdor will be part of the Iron Warrior stuff. He does fit very well. That would be, I actually don't want them to bring Pederabo back. The only reason I say that, though, is because I don't like, I think we're too imbalanced in chaos primarks to imperial primarks. Yeah, we do need one another glorious primaries. And so, and I don't want to see it. They could do a double release.

I just think it would be weird if they did. So I would rather than keep Pederabo in the warp and just have Vashdor be a key part of them. Kind of like the way we had with What's the The apothecary for Emperor's Children Fabius Bile There you. Same we had Fabius Bile

We can have a character Who's not necessarily a leader But he's highly associated with them Who's kind of hanging around Also I'd like to them Candidly also I care more about them Blowing up Vashdor a bit more Vashdor has a lot of potential

And lore stories to kind of give us a lot more backstory It's hinted that Vash Tor caused the Dark Age of Technology. I'd like to learn more about that than Petarabo, honestly. Fast Door is, I actually think they've left him really untapped. He should have way more lore and more stories on him because they hinted at so many things. Yeah, it's just, thatcher's better. Yeah, sorry, I'd adjust my desk, so I'm no longer the TV behind me of, that was fun, I used to play the random movies. Yeah, I love this. Can they actually make Lush's a good swordsman to get the lore at least?

Lucius was so bad for a while when we were playtesting. They asked what points would you need Lucius to be? I think this was eighth edition when they first did up. And I go, if he was zero, I still don't know if I would take it. It was so bad for a while. Yeah. The next prime mark, we talked about this earlier. Brad keeps wishful thinking that it's going to be Vulcan or Russ.

He's been wrong every single time. So I'm just assuming that that won't be the case again. And we're going to get Dorn. That just makes more sense. It could be Dorn. Broken and I'm just going to plan too. Oh, you're going to play. You will play Imperial Fists for like two years because they'll be the best,

they'll be the best army in the game. Yeah, so the guy asking about playing in the store, I'm going to give a really messed up answer about this too. So the store that wants you to buy a codex and buy the, cards. I actually would support it more what they're pushing you to do if we weren't at the end of the addition. And all of that is going to have no value in three months. Yeah, why are you going to buy $55 in cards and some other shit? It's more than it's a hundred, it's over $100 to buy the cards and the codex right now. Exactly. And they will be

valueless. They're gone in three months. So that's where if this was yeah. Now I will say when 11th edition opens up whatever you need to play the game you should spend that because it will last you for years dude i got to go to kr real quick brad is alive if he's alive anyone can come back kr brad is we're going to go with alive not yeah he's i agree on this because the imperial fists are the poster children for 30k they do a ton of them in 30k yeah i still don't understand how ross isn't they literally had the lore specifically for his return. Ah!

Ah! It's because space wolf players are too loud. That's why. What the? It's actually, you want my real theory and why Russ isn't back? It's because that model will do nothing but disappoint people. The Space Wolf players are, and I'm going to be very positive here. Some of the best painters I know who, who,

work on Imperium models are Space Wolf Painters. I have seen some of the best Space Wolf models I've seen are the best Imperium models I've seen. I don't think GW could model something that would not cause problems. I mean, when they released, um, damn it, why, I'm sorry, my brain's going right now. The new Logan model is so good. No, but what's the new, uh, what's the last prime mark we got? Purple Snake guy. Purple snake guy, Folgram. You're not wrong.

It was just the way you said it. So Fulgram, Fulgram, I mean, just people were talking about when they released Fulgram, the number one thing people were making fun of with Fulgram was one of the faces was making blue, was making blue steel. And that was like all over the place. And that was Fulgram. Yeah. And that was Fulgram who no one cares about.

If you gave it Dorn just like one eyebrow that's a little bit off, you're going to see a wall of hate. It's like that Space Wolf players can paint. That's why you do Dorn because no one will care. It's given good rules. Yeah. Yeah. There's no way I wouldn't have

not that I'm thinking about that. You have to make your your Fogre model just have blue steel in the middle of it. Yeah, it's going to be blue steel. Beautiful. As far as the emperor, yeah, we're going to do A more deep dive into the emperor. We were talking about it earlier on this cast.

Once we've done end of death, it opens up a few more things for us to kind of do some things. We're going to grammaticus. There's a whole bunch of stuff that came out in that series that I want to do, but I want to let people finish reading these very expensive books first. But yeah, Dorn, I'll be honest. I actually would like Dorn to come back to because I think you'd have the three most dour people. But it would also would, from a lore standpoint, it would help the Imperatorian. right the ship. Russ coming back doesn't help the Imperium. It just means the space wolves are

rushing out and punching things. Yeah. It doesn't actually fix it. It doesn't fix any problems. Dorn comes back and you actually start fortifying stuff and building it up. Gilliman starts making supplies run around and the lion is just growling and being sour about stuff. He can fortify all he wants. You need to have Yolo Swagons. Yeah. And I'll be honest, white scars need more love, but not from me talk to gw i will give them all the love when gw actually cares about them again they have they're they're the forgotten faction it's like it you actually it's a good analogy because there are what they're either 18 prime marks how many of them are dead now like four of them are

dead i've lost track at this point but that's kind of what it is jaguarine and the white scars are like when a family has 18 kids and they lose one of them and don't realize they lost one that's where the white scars are at this I would give the Scars more love if G.W. Again, he needs to give them more love. But man, when G.W. brought out the new Scars models and they put their chapter master on foot. That was awesome. That was awesome.

That was the best thing ever. Those who don't know what we're talking about, their rule was they could advance in charge. Okay. On bikes. And then the most important guy who had an aura of six inches was on foot. What a wound. Yeah. So he could move six inches, and if you rolled a dice, you could get at most six inches more.

The bikes move 12 plus a six inch move. So the bikes automatically on the first turn were out of range of him. Out of his aura. Yeah. Every time. So dumb. Vulcan, if Vulcan came back, it'd be cool to. Again, the problem, though, is for me from a lore standpoint, the salamanders are a tiny legion.

So the difference is if Dorn came back, He gets control of the fists who are still very large. And, of course, the Black Templars. Black Templars. This is massive. He becomes a beatstick powerhouse. So that's cool. Stardy scum.

Yeah. My son is learning Nintendo, by the way. Yeah, I wanted him kind of, it's just easier. Teach him, you teach him young. So he's learning Nintendo. I did, he wanted to learn video games, and I wanted to teach him how to lose. So I decided to put him on Super Mario brothers. and it didn't go great.

So my wife yelled at me, so I had to put them on something that was actually beatable. Anyway. Biggest rules change you'd like to see in the 11th edition. Levinth edition, they have to fix the fight phase.

You can do a lot of things that are... No, the fight phase is fine. We need vortex grenade. It is not fine. We need a vortex grenade. When I put something next to a wall and tell you you can't fight with half your unit and a character,

that's unfun. But it's solvable. They need to fix stuff. It's all solved with a vortex grenade. No, it is that. That is not solved with a vortex. Everything, everything is solved with a vortex grenade mission. It's the great equalizer.

It is the great equalizer. I'm going to continue on because that makes no sense. It's the great equalizing. They need to fix a bunch of stuff in the fight phase, and they need to do a complete terrain overhaul of how you interact with terrain. We have one piece of terrain right now. Oh, terrain sucks. Everything is obscuring ruins.

There's no rules for anything. We need just diversity in terrain. All the boards look like the same. Yeah, every, so those of you who are playing north of the game, terrain used to be varied. All the terrain pieces of the board would have different rules. Brad and I want to go back to that. A lot of us want to go back to that.

Because the problem is right now, I don't like the fact you can hide your entire army turn one. I think it's a mistake. I think it's unfun for the game that if whoever goes first doesn't get a shooting phase unless their opponent's an idiot. or has too many models. That's just kind of how it goes. It takes a fun out of it.

I want to go back to an era of something's obscuring, something's a minus one, some things are craters and do absolutely nothing. Some things attack you. Yeah. Oh, go back, bring back. Ooh, hazardous terrain. Ooh.

But only if we also get the vortex mine. You can have your vortex. We just need, there's a lot of just mechanics right now that can be abusive and feel unfund to people. they're not like anybody's cheating. They're just using the mechanics the way they are. They're just bad.

Yeah. It is, it's just unfortunately. The most broken chaos army, ah, right now, it's the whatever that nightmare is with the Lords of Change and the blah, blah, blah, and the screamers, that thing's stupid.

It just, the thing is, like, anything that gives you a feels bad and it doesn't feel like the game, you know i want more of that i just it'd be great to have more of four varied boards man oh yeah i mean board variants used to be a thing um you can make beautiful boards too it's it's really hard to make really i don't even need the the beauty i just wanted to not the old terrain kr i mean like the old nightmare terrain like in the middle here's a pyramid

what's that do nothing but it makes everything fall like that's that that was terrible i just think that what I'd like to have is something my viewpoint would be all the terrain should be numbered and so like you know there's two ones two twos two threes two fours and then each of those they all have a set rule to them some of them have obscuring some of them don't so at least you know but I don't want to go to the old terrain which was actually physically problematic to work with like the uh the necrone uh the tubes the they had all of the monoliths were tough you know that they had Yeah, it was just awful. It was just like you couldn't like, or hills.

We're never bringing hills back. Hills make no sense in 40K. Same with Rivers, by the way. I never understood the concept of the rivers. I know you liked it, Bride, but the Rivers were dumb. I love them. They were so stupid. It was so dumb.

But you still have cool rules for roads, though. You used to go plus one on roads. It was just for what reason? It's the 41st millennia. Oh, really? You like night fight, but you don't like taking roads and water. That's my point. This is my thing.

It's like, oh, it's dark out. We can't fight. Oh, look, someone brought asphalt. Therefore, my grav tank goes faster. What? Oh, anyway. The imperium between the Ecclesiarch, you know, and actually was on parallel, similar to Eldar.

Yeah, so fun story on that. That question there, read end of death. Yeah. The answer is yes. Yeah. Yeah, the Sigma terrain setups are good. they're just a little bit too far for me um but that's the one what's the army you hate to paint thousand sons thousands i don't know why because you don't paint i paint no you don't

i think i you were not allowed my red what army you were not allowed to paint some armies i remember i remember this conversation oh dude i i tried to paint eldar yeah and what happened that i get defeated yeah that that defeated me yeah that's by the way i have 10 000 points of Eldar. Eldar, easy. Thousand Suns. So sucks. The amount, no, the amount of trim on thousand

sons is nightmarish. And it is not, it's the angles are tough. Thousand Suns are the hardest thing I've ever painted by a long margin, except for maybe feathers. On some of my Zinche demons, feathers I don't love either.

Yes, and War Gear should cost more. War Gear should cost. Period. Yeah. War Gear should have a... right now. For the 11th edition, they'll have a similar layout system. X amount of tables, they'll just change them depending on what they're doing.

Yeah. Tanks in 40K, good. Horse is bad. Flyers are the worst. It's a dumb mechanic and should go away. Yeah, flyers, airplanes. It's not interactive. The thing about airplanes is I would rather them just be a stratagem than anything else.

They used to be. Remember when orcs used to have strafe attacks? That was your flyer. Yeah, that ain't worth us. Cavalry. Someone asked me this in the Discord earlier. If you want to know my opinions on cavalry, Google Charge of the Light Brigade,

and you'll discover my opinion on cavalry. It does not work. Black armor is hard to pull off well because the shading is tough, but the difference is with black armor is black and white. They're both really hard to paint. well and yellow actually all three of those are tough but the issue i have with thousands is the amount of trim work you have to do it's more oppressive because as a as a painter if you paint

army that's black like i've got a bunch of death watch over there they are you can kind of go all right that's good enough and call it a day with thousand suns any part of the trim you don't do looks glaring and any part of the trim that you miss also looks glaring so it just it drives you insane. In my thousand sons need, I need like 2,000 more points a thousand sons. I'm like 5,000 right now. And I just, I don't know whatever I'm going to do it. So the new knight, I don't play knights. So I can't speak to it. He's fine. He is what he is. The problem is that's just so hard to balance knights. Yeah, the horse charging armor, a wolf's charging an army. It's equal. I don't know why in an era of tanks, I need to be.

It's not just the, it's two things. One, I'm, riding on something that's slower than a tank and two the tank has armor so i'm on top of a thing with my face but people can't see your top knot and your tattoos bro come on yeah no it it does not um it does not free calorie at least makes sense because it agree you're all trying to die but i still don't like them um yeah white is rough uh yeah new votan berserker does look really good uh Got potential. I didn't just push those more into dwarves, damn it. I want to see more Zerk.

I want to see full slayers come out. Yeah, we'll see. I mean, Votan, you know, Bo TEN are a complicated launch. We'll be covering that in a few weeks on the history of 40K, because we'll be talking about the most busted armies of 9th edition. And, I guess technically they weren't. Does it even count as a busted army?

Yeah. It never hit the table. Well, it did. I mean, the problem is it, it didn't. It got Nerf before. Before release. Yeah. It was.

Oh, God, it was fantastic. Did I miss anything important? I mean, no. Not really. But I mean, but honestly, you could sit there. Hey, I just discovered you guys cast for the first time. What episode should I start on? I mean, really none of them.

It's fine. You'll be, I like what we did. When did we start fixing the audio? Probably then. Well, no, the audio is fixed all the way through. So remember, I back. I went through and actually. But still, even, even,

With the fixed audio, some of the first audio is just, you know, you can fix it so much. Well, there's a couple of episodes we got drunk. That's what I will say. Those are the ones that are funny. Those are the ones where we were actually like, hello. Yeah, I can't remember that you went to leave my house. We're both like, yeah, let's actually just go get food instead before Brad's drives. Yeah, that is true.

Actually, my wife, my wife was like, Brad's not driving. Like, all right, we'll just, we'll have a snack. We walk to a restaurant. We walk to a restaurant. I'm like, you want to drink, we know. No. We've made bad choices today. We have to have food.

So that's what the next. So instead of using one of the four paper towels that I had in front of me, I use my own sweatshirt to wipe up the spelled line. Oh, that was a good one, too. Smooth decisions. Those are some, oh, God. Anyway, yeah, we've had some days in recording this cast. But, yeah, I think, all right, let's, that's an hour of 45.

I think we're probably nearing the end of this. Because, you know, John likes sleep. Um, yeah. Brad. Yes, that's what Brad looks like now. He's aged. K.R. He's aged.

I will, you will see more of Brad soon enough. I had a, I was pretty impossible to make, uh, do consistency. Yeah. Um,

just old. But, all right, as usual, I'm going to, Irish goodbye this thing a little bit. So, um,

smoke bomb. All right. That's been great. Yeah, I want to thank you all for coming and listening. Those of you who listen after the fact, thanks for listening. If those are the first time seeing us, this is what we look like. Congratulations. But yeah, so we'll see you all in a couple of months.

So thank you. Enjoy. There we go. Do you have an answer for us? No.