The 40k Lorecast - Episode 31 - The Necrons Pt 2
Episode Date: April 22, 2024On this episode we continue our dive into the lore of the Necrons. We pick up as they begin to awaken in the galaxy. One that is very much on fire and getting worse. We dive into the process and ...phases of a tomb world awakening. From there we dive into some of the incredibly advanced weaponry of the Necrons (including a John rant about what Gauss is and is not!). Then we finish up with what the Necrons are up to in the start of 10th edition.PatreonMerchandiseDiscord Link:Our WebsiteRetro RecallOur Sponsors:* Check out BetterHelp: https://www.betterhelp.com* Check out Pebl: https://hellopebl.com* Check out Pebl: https://hipebl.ai* Check out Shopify: https://shopify.com/loreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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Welcome to the 40K lorecast.
Welcome to the 40K lore cast of me, John Barcotti and Bradchester.
This guy.
Today we're going to cover part two of the Necron lorecast.
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So on the last episode, we covered the evolution and the rise of the necront tier into the necrons, you know, how they began by expanding and conquering the galaxy, that they were limited by a horrible genetic mutation so they couldn't live.
They actually never say how long they lived.
They already have this.
Everybody says that too.
They're like, it's a short-lived race.
And they only lived for 400 years.
Yeah, that's the thing.
Like, yeah, compared to the Eldar.
We don't know.
They may have actually-
Eldar is a dying race and there's still trillions of them.
Yeah.
It's, you know, it's that big.
It's, they just use words.
Eventually, the Nekron tier ran at the old ones and asked them for their secret of
immortality.
And then the old ones said, no.
And the Nekrons went, but it was way worse than that.
Because the NECrons went, no.
And then as the, I'm sorry, the old ones said no.
And the NECRs were about to walk away.
And the only ones went, but let us tell you why.
Yeah.
Because we really think you're terrible people.
Yeah.
We're not saying no, because we don't know how to save you.
We totally know how to fix you.
And you do it easily.
Yeah, like I wouldn't even, I could do it on my way to get milk, but I'm just not going to do it because you guys suck.
But I need you to know that I don't like you.
You're like, that was a bit much, man.
I was just going to go away with no, but, well, we're now going to fight a big war.
Yeah, so the net frontier of the side then, we're going to attack the old ones and take it from them and forgot to do this little thing called research and discovered quickly the old ones not only could appear anywhere on the galaxy at any time.
At a moment's notice.
Yeah, but also had these, like, could use, shoot mind.
bullets at them.
And the Necrontier...
They're doing Captain
Dr. Manhattan level shit.
Oh, yeah.
They just got...
You're like, hey, man,
the guy just smashed our ship into nothingness
or pulled it into the warp,
which we didn't know existed.
They're fighting us from a place
we didn't know exist using powers
from said place that we can't resist.
So, anyway, Necrontier get, you know,
curb stomped and shoved back
into their corner of the galaxy,
discover the most powerful entity
in the galaxy named the C-Tan.
Like laughably the most popular.
Yeah.
Sell their souls to the C-Tan.
First, they made them be able to interact.
That's true, yeah.
They were so angry.
They spent a lot of time figuring out how to make an Iron Man suit
that they could jam a star got into just so they could hang out with that.
It is something that, like, when I was playing Necrons years ago,
I never fully grasped the level of technological superiority they had the rest of the galaxy.
It's just laughable.
It's just laughable.
It's also they're full of hair.
Yeah, well, that's the...
They're always kind of full of hate,
but now they're like really full of hate.
Well, it's just like their society.
The society from day one was like,
you wronged me at some point in time,
and I'm going to dedicate the rest of existence
to screwing you over.
You're like, you guys have problems.
We all saw Stargate, and by all of us,
I mean, actually probably not of our listeners.
A lot of our listeners do your average age.
Yeah, just do your average ages.
But Brad and I saw it,
and people who wrote the neck run
Codex and Lorre saw it.
But, anyway, back to the story at hand.
C-Tan and the C-Tans
convinced the Necron tier to turn themselves in the Necrons
by giving a chunk of their souls to them.
We're going fast here.
They then...
This is just a recap. It's a recap. They rejoin.
The old ones lose.
The fact, actually, I'm sorry.
The necrons and the C-Tan
attack the old ones. The old ones
uplift the, well, don't really uplift.
They convert the Eldar
over to war. They uplift the crook.
They definitely didn't uplift. They went,
Eldar, looks like you have this
perfect harmonious society. Also, we need you guys
to kill everyone now. Here's how you take the
Wraithbone flute you just made, and here's how you make a
bright lance out.
They bring it on. And
this is such a weird thing. We didn't talk about it
enough, and I'm going to only touch on it here,
which is just, the old ones are probably still
going to win. Oh, they were going to win
until. Well, enslavers,
I did what I did before and slavers came to town.
Yeah.
And then, well, shit happened.
And then we get the whole, who knows what happened, but they dused out.
And then the Necrons decided, well, the Sly King.
Again, Necrons full of righteous anger.
They can hold a grudge.
So they basically went, hey, man, did we just convert our entire society and let people eat our souls?
Yeah, we should attack them right now.
Yeah, let's go get revenge on that.
Are we still kind of in the middle of war?
Yeah.
This is the irony, when you look at the story of the war in heaven and what the Necron
tier did, the necrons were on the verge of actually saving the galaxy because they destroyed
the C-Tans who would have eventually eaten all life in the galaxy.
They were building the pylons, which would have held the warp out of the galaxy, you know,
and they were basically going to die.
If they hadn't going deep to, they would have achieved pulling the other warp out of the galaxy
just in time for the Eldar and Crook to kill them.
And it's all where it worked itself out.
Yeah.
And the elder wouldn't have made dark odds and ruined everything.
It would have been, it's all would have worked itself out.
But it didn't.
And the, the Necron's recognized after defeating the C-Tan losing,
there's no numbers here, but at least half their population in the process decided rather
than just their butts have whooped by the remaining Eldar and Crook.
Well, they also like kind of left the Elder El Dorah.
because we don't know how long this war is.
And the entire time the Eldar
have taken hardly
any losses, to be perfectly honest with you.
Yeah, the Eldar, well, the Eldar and the problem
is the Eldar were up with the quickly.
The cork are growing rapidly
at this stage, too, and that's
not great. So they're just looking up,
there's no chance. The Necrons would have just
gotten wrecked. So they decide
to...
Because they were never super numerous in the first
place. They were just technologically
superior. The Necrons?
Necrons? No, of course not. Yeah.
They mean, there was, and this is, when I say numbers, they weren't had a ton of them.
This is galaxy-wide numbers.
Yeah, no one's ever had the population of the Imperium.
Right. That's the largest one by a long...
It's why the chaos gods have grown so much since mankind came on it.
Yeah, that's where it comes from.
The necrons, the problem is, this is all written in a way because...
I'll give GW credit.
It's written without a lot of numbers and details, but it's meant to...
beat that way because that he is this was 60 million years ago and it's all in the yeah the past the
hey the fog of the past yeah i mean these these are the stories upon stories upon stories upon stories
upon stories they're supposed to be legends also yeah and that's where a lot of this is told through
this guy knew this guy and we talked to eldar and found out this and we found legitimately
planets and read their stuff so this is also all the ballad of beowulf
exactly that's well but that's actually i was going to go that way too like we don't fully
grasp what occurred.
This stuff might be a complete and total, like, this might have been a skirmish and that's it.
So at this stage, the Silent King tells all the necrons, hey, go to sleep.
And what that really means is they actually built stasis chambers.
They phase shifted their entire civilization so far below the surface.
They're basically in the center of planet space.
Well, sort of, because the problem is they say that, but then there are stories of like mankind just finding one.
True, true.
It depends where you are, to be honest with you.
Because they've had a lot of the writer when they were right.
Yeah, true story.
Sometimes they're like, we bury you six feet under kind of thing.
And other times they're at the center.
And sometimes they're in pocket dimensions.
Yeah, that's true.
Because it's true.
The stories where they're like, yeah, they're miles upon miles below the surface.
And other times they're like, yeah, some ad mech guy walked into one by accident.
Yeah, I was digging a hole.
Yeah, I was going to poop in a hole.
I dug down and I found an admec.
I found a monolith.
Weird.
But so from there, that kind of catches us up to where we are now.
So the deep sleep.
You're not going to have to call him out.
I'm calling on the silent king.
The silently king literally, one, counted, went into deep dark space to pout.
Oh, yeah, he was just busy.
He never goes to sleep.
He pouted for 65 million years.
60 million years.
I did finally figure out the reading, after reading, by the, I had to download the very first
Necron Codex to get half this into.
because a new one don't give you as much detail, but the very first Necron code, it's like, 02.
I found a PDF of it and was actually able to find a lot of stuff.
It's 60 million years.
They've been asleep.
They first came on 65 million years ago.
So the war in heavens, I would call them plural, were about 5 million years.
Yeah.
That's the thing is, is one of the, I do want to talk about this one more time.
After this is such a huge span of history because Necron's fought old ones got their ass kicked.
And this took a long time.
Then Necrons tried to talk to Catan for thousands of years.
They were throwing bananas at them and Twinkies and just going,
you guys like this stuff?
No, let's figure something else.
We'll try something else.
So the skywriting didn't work.
Okay.
Okay.
Balloons?
No.
Okay.
Right.
So like this all took place over a bonkers amount of time.
And it was also time and space.
And you got to remember the old ones and the necrons were alone.
Yeah, I mean, we talked about the old ones uplifting the Eldar.
I mean, this was happening.
We don't fully grasp it, but it wasn't like the Eldar weren't a large race at this point.
They're being kind of like steered in a direction.
You know, even the quirk, we're not 100 percent.
How many, that's a hundred, we don't know at all, like what any of these numbers were.
This entire war of heaven, you know, well, we know now about how many necrons there are now.
but it could have been.
And this is why you're talking about when they took the Catan.
How long was that war?
I don't know.
It was, how about this?
It was long enough where the Eldar started setting up their own empire.
And that's when the Silent King made his decision to go into stasis.
Because he just left that race alone and the Corker alone for a long time.
Well, the problem was that, yeah, with the enslave or plague, the old ones just kind of ran away,
effectively. Yeah, they just dissatisfied. They also just kind of didn't tell anybody,
according to what they said. So at a certain point,
the Silent King realizes the Necrons have only one choice ahead of them,
and that is to go into this deep sleep. They are ravaged from the war with a Citan.
The Eldar and the Cork are growing. And the Eldar,
don't forget, viewed the old ones as gods. And the Necrons
killed their gods. And this appears,
that the Eldar weren't going to kind of lie down and be sad about that. And also, not as bloodthirsty,
but the Eldar are pretty OCD about yes. Again, the Eldar feel will do this in the Eldar cast.
We talked about it in the, where originally war it happens, they are focused on everything.
This has been a lot of the writing. They feel everything basically 500 times more than any human
will ever have. They get super excited about everything. But the other thing about this is,
And this is another, I want to give props to the Crons, because we're doing Necrons right now.
The Silent King and his cronies basically ran high-level models.
Oh, yeah.
What was going to happen?
So this is why they decide.
This isn't just like, oh, we're just going to hope for the best.
They ran models and said, these civilizations will cave in.
They will destroy themselves.
They will fall.
We just have to wait for that.
And then we'll just reconquer the world.
Yeah, and we'll get to that in a second.
accurate they are, give us a few minutes. You're going to be impressed. But let's cover kind of
in between. Necrons go to sleep and before they can awake and there are some problems. First off,
they're asleep for 60 million years. The Eldar don't just sit there and say, oh,
necrons disappeared. Probably nothing to see here. Let's move on with our day. They began to actively
hunt down tomb worlds. And after they found a few of them, they realized there were more. And they
this was became a main kind of a got i mean it's known the eldar it's a side project but as brad
was alluding to eldar side projects for the people that are on the side projects yeah they're
pretty serious this is the only this becomes your only purpose for your life everyone you know his life
and so they were the elder and your descendants lives everyone ever for the end of time this is what
they do it's quite likely that what would have today because of the craft world was devoted to
hunting down and destroying tomb world so while they're and when they're when you're in stasis as a
in that grind, you don't wake up.
So if the Eldar's find a tomb world, it just gets destroyed.
There's no defenses, nothing triggers.
It's gone.
The tomb mind, believes what it's called, doesn't activate.
You also just have natural disasters.
I mean, you know, meteors hit planets.
Volcanoes erupt.
I mean, you're still, they are, these stasis tombs are physical things.
So if the planet cracks in half or the Titanic plates just move and all of a sudden you just
get plummeted to the core of the planet, you're just like, oh, it's,
molten metal here, I guess we'll just die.
Over the course of like 60 million years,
if you know what I think about the Earth's movement, like continents shift.
It's a real thing, you know.
But let's go to my favorite one.
Whoopsy, you guys were running Windows 98 and sometimes things break down.
Sometimes just, yeah, despite all their technology,
they just erred out.
Well, it's hard to go, hey, man, if no one maintains this program for 60 million years,
what will happen?
you're like, some destroyer cults will show up.
That's what happened.
The water purifier chip, it broke.
Exactly.
You're going to have to send somebody out there.
Someone's got to go out there and get there.
Got to get out of the vault.
You go over to the vault that has all of the water purifier purifiers chips.
And the thing is that they did fantastic.
I have to give neck rounds.
And this is the same thing that happens at team tournaments.
I don't get the right data.
But, which makes no sense to anybody.
But like four listeners.
Yeah.
But the silently king had to go on the data.
had at the time. You know what, Dady he didn't have? Oh, mankind. Mankind is just going to
literally be everyone. Who? Yeah. Those, the seven monkeys that lived on the planet? 60 million years.
I'm like, I'm harper on this because I got a five-year-old, so I know evolution real well.
True. We're not even there. There weren't even primates at this point. That is true.
Yeah. The T-Rexes are still, have just finished dying. Right. He's just like, what are you,
what are you talking about? He's like, there's going to be a race that will pump out so many of them
that they will be everywhere.
You're like, who are you even talking about?
Also, there's another race that are like kind of a cow people.
Oh, yeah, actually, they won't matter.
They won't matter.
John's obligatory tower.
Oh, there it is.
Don't worry.
There'll be a few of them.
So mankind also comes through.
And not only are they planet cracking by accident when they're doing mine disasters.
But we're wildly killing necrons.
Totally nothing.
We're not finding them.
We don't even know what's happening when they find them.
We accidentally get technology from them.
though.
Quite a few times.
You also know,
because we just find their stuff
and go, this is great.
Guess this is ours now.
Then you have whatever the men of iron
ended up doing when they found one of them.
Because this is all this,
every piece of the history of mankind occurs
wore all this stuff.
So the Necron's,
you know, their tumor's getting beaten up
quite a bit.
However, they do at around the 60 million mark,
the reactivation kicks in.
And it's a little bit hard,
depending on literally which codex you read,
these vary a little bit.
But it is rock solid though, because he, I mean, you're saying 10,000 years are like,
that's a big miss.
You're like, no, it's not when you're talking millions of years.
So just for people understand, they ran numbers and they chose their wake-up point to be
within probably 5,000 years of the birth of Slanesh.
Yeah.
That's how close they nailed this.
Their civilization will fall.
The orcs will be.
be scattered. Yep. And they were right. I mean, the orcs were scattered before. They got,
they were right. Yeah, but he was saying that if you wait enough time,
they had a few million years, right, correct on that one. Yeah, they, he's the, yeah,
if we show up at any time. At any point, just kind of the orcs, oh, weird, they're scattered.
But the Eldar, they hit within a few thousand years. And there's actually, uh, I believe it's
the second Necron Codex implies the first tomb worlds awakened right as the emperor launched the
great crusade, which means they may have woken up within, um,
hundred years of the of this that pretty spot yeah whoa they hit this one well and that's just
amazing so you know good for them issue is not all them actually woke up well we'll get into
more of this the vast majority a lot of them didn't wake up but also some of them woke up again in
oh the program's not working so we've got destroyers but also you got to remember he didn't he
gave away some of his overruling power.
These guys didn't get along before.
Yeah. And they had a, the only reason that the silent king, besides when he had the,
the button that said you have to. And listen to me button.
Right. But before that, they were in separate dynasties. And we're going to get to that
more, but like, that's a big thing when they wake up because the individual dynasties
don't help each other. Yeah. Like, this could be perfect if you say, oh, I'm going to go help
my brothers. I know where other tomb worlds are. I'll go help it out. And these people went,
I'm going to go get as much stuff as I possibly can while he's still asleep. Done.
Yeah. This is, we're going to get into kind of some of the return of the Silent King in a little bit,
which is, by the way, very new to the canon, the lore, but we'll get over there. So the good news,
though, for the universe is that they don't come online quickly. And they don't come and click,
because they don't help each other because a unified necrons would actually be.
It would have been over.
Yeah.
They would have woken up and been like, they would have woke up at the beginning of the
Horace heresy giggled and conquered the entire galaxy if they'd all come back online.
The only thing that's helped mankind is that the necrons have come online slowly, which
has alerted them to their presence, given them practice and fighting them so that they actually
can hold them at bay because a necrone force coming out of nowhere, we will talk some of those
stories later.
They just ran, when the necrons first hit the galaxy, they'd,
just ran over mankind.
Well, also because mankind fights attrition wars.
And you can't fight an attrition war with somebody that gets all their stuff back.
It's like fighting.
They're basically futuristic on debt.
They just keep, they're like, cool, you guys lost a million people?
Well, we lost Ted.
Because we broke.
He was too broke.
Yeah.
And then we just made a new Ted.
Yeah.
We just, we didn't actually lose Ted.
We lost Ted one.
Yeah, we lost Ted one.
This is Ted two.
He's actually kind of better.
So, but I think we should probably.
spent some time talking about how a tomb world does awaken because this whole process is
Gably spent a lot of time writing it. It's kind of awesome. It's actually really awesome.
Once they actually get the go-to, once you get the, you press enter and you get the notification
that it's, it's time to go. Everything starts happening. We'll be right back after a quick break.
Yes. And they also, Necrons generate, I have to think about this for a minute, whether it's
true or not, because I'm pretty sure it is. Necrons generate more.
more energy than any other race.
Yes.
I was about to say,
Tyrnids might be weirdly,
but it's all bile.
It's different.
So the thing about it is that
tyranids,
you can sense,
if you have a sense of the warp,
you know where the tyrants are
because their warp presence
is so powerful
because it's a hive mind.
Necrons set off sensors
from systems away.
And so...
Because they're just generating
the like fusion reactors,
the chunk change.
That's adorable.
Yeah.
You have an easy bake oven?
Cool.
Cool, cool, cool.
Mankind's idea of power generation, that's actually a good analogy, is an easy bake oven
next to not Chernobyl, you know, but a real nuclear generator.
That's where the necrons are at.
And so one of the dangers the necrons have is when a tomb world activates, the energy
signature it sets off can be detected from literally systems away.
So when they come online.
They have to be ready to go.
It is go time because it's not, it's not this like,
casual wake up. I mean, although it is because the issue is that in order to generate this much
power, even with all that generation, they can't bring everyone online at once. There's actually
a pretty cool system that they use to come online. And it all starts with what's called the
tune mind. And so the tomb mind is, I don't know, it's an AI. It's a call it what it is. It's a
It's 100% of it. It's an AI. It's it also says, well, it also makes a decision right away.
Yep.
Is this an emergency situation or is this an, a regular awakening?
Because a regular awakening runs like clockwork.
Everything is awesome.
If you say we're awakening the tomb world because there's dudes, there's Eldar standing on top of us or somebody else.
They cut a lot of corners.
And cutting a lot of corners means a lot of shit doesn't work.
Yeah.
And this is important because, as we just said, when they come online, especially now the first
once few would come online, no one knew what was going on.
Even the Eldar had forgotten about the Necrons.
It's a little side of the Neckrons.
Did they forget about it or did problems happen?
Well, I'm saying there's cool stories about the Eldar.
Like, they didn't forget them.
They had, all Eldar have memories of something occurred.
But when the Neckron, the first Necron started appearing,
then Eldar went to the Black Library to go reread on what the hell were those things?
There's also a sect of Eldar that basically went,
I told you guys about this the whole time.
The whole time, then those guys are riding dinosaurs.
Um, like, just get off my lawn.
Told you about him.
So this tomb mine comes on board, but we're going to cover kind of the standard way they would come online.
So the first thing the tomb mind is going to do is activate what I call the drones.
So scarabs, spiders and wraiths.
Those are the first ones.
And they do two things.
They can do repairs if, you know, as a tomb's activating, hey, this bit's broken, but also they can fight,
which is I find kind of hilarious because if you play the game long enough, like imagine just, you know,
bunch of, it's going to be rogue traders, unfortunately,
but whatever it is, exploring, finding this really cool technological marvels.
Tomb spiders will wreck you.
Yeah, and a bunch of tomb spiders just come running out of it,
or rates coming through walls on you and it's like, everyone's dead.
I hate when things face through things.
Yeah, there's a, there are a lot of stories of, like,
Tomb Worlds coming online and just local populace is just disappearing and they go later.
There's all dead, like just all dead because the spiders.
The nonsense, the workers will still.
wreck you. Yeah. Yeah. These guys
come on board. The next thing they bring
online are where they call the automated defenses,
which never,
no codex tells me what those are.
Apparently,
your scarabs, spiders, and wraiths
are not automated enough defenses. They have to
bring on, I'm assuming, particle weapons.
It's all the particle weapons.
It's all the, the, the glowy
stuff at the top of all the monoliths
and the vaults and all those things.
Those things come online,
which in the game are
pretty big guns. So their automated defenses will disintegrate you. Yeah, it's not,
it's not a light pistol. The next one is the basic soldier. And this is a kind of a two-step piece.
These are the warriors. So they bring online the warriors. And we say bring online the warriors.
This takes a while because you're talking millions of them.
Well, also, this is the easier, easier part to come on because it doesn't take as much because
some of us lost more than others in the biotransference.
Yeah, I do like that the difference between a warrior's self-awareness and a spider-rate self-awareness
is not very much.
It's a nightmare still.
Yeah.
You're like, hey, you've had most of your soul ripped away.
You're a consciousness inside a body, and you're a prisoner.
And sometimes you're allowed to move yourself and sometimes you're not.
You're like, you guys suck so much.
It's the worst thing's ever happened.
They go from there.
And what the warriors do is they're actually then set out on scouting missions.
So their goal is to figure out how safe are we?
So the tomb has come online.
So the scars are going out.
Now let's go.
I know.
It's just John put, eliminate any media threats, all of the books, they just eliminate everything.
It's not a threat.
There's two guys with a tomato field.
Yeah.
And the warriors just roll up on them.
And they're like, uh, and then they just kill everything.
Oh, yeah. I mean, that's a threat. Well, what if? I mean, I don't know, tomatoes have moisture in them. Maybe it maybe it could rust. Yeah, this is, this is real thing. I mean, they can't rust at all. But, you know, in theory, who knows, let's let's not take risks, you know, let's not take risks, you know. I mean, we're old enough to remember when the president of the United States had someone throw a shoe at him. He dodged it. He touched it. Once the warriors are online and they've actually
explored it's it's not just the planet it's usually the system that they're in they're going
to explore out and kill things the next one they come in line are kind of the more robust members
of society so immortals destroyers pariahs i actually not sure flesh flesh ones
played ones i'm not a hundred percent they're they're broken just like destroyers yeah
I thought i wasn't sure when flayed ones came into the destroyers have fallen victim of the
destroyer the destroyer plague and uh flayed ones are legendaryly
messed up.
Yeah.
They're the people that are wearing the skin of others and trying to go, hello, fellow human.
Yeah.
We are sneaking in.
You're like, you're clear, you're the most terrifying thing I've ever seen in my life.
You're, you're, why?
Like, and they're just kind of sneaking with a briefcase going, ha ha.
Yeah, Flay ones are much better being teleported in via Dolman Gates.
What?
They're sneaking in.
Yeah.
Basically, these guys are, their main, their main purpose is either.
At this stage, the tomb world is either building up forces for what,
will be a later expansion, or if I was saying earlier,
if the tomb mind has decided, hey, we're in danger,
these guys are being brought on board because they're much more robust
than a warrior at fighting, and they're going to say,
okay, now whatever threat is nearby goes away.
Also, again, warriors are wildly expendable because they're not expendable,
because even if they get wiped out, we teleport them back,
we fix them up, we send them back out.
So there's not a big threat there.
The last one is going to be, what, to the second last one,
is the big guns.
These are your flyers.
These are your vehicles.
These are all of your monoliths.
One of the big things is I do want to go into the big guns because things like monolith,
monoliths get shortchanged in the game.
Because the rules have been shit.
Yeah, but I'm saying, but the monolith is a floating building.
And like, again, it's the Sears Tower in spaceship form.
It's a pyramid, Brad.
I mean, you can go with Sears Tower or you could just say.
Pyramids is wildly too small.
Really, no, it's not, number one.
Number two, how many people do you think
have seen the Sears Tower?
I have.
Right, there we go.
I mean, I've seen both.
It's a big pyramid.
How about that?
Thank you.
Fine.
Tehotu-Walkin.
I mean, we can go, we can do this.
It's a much bigger one.
Fine.
Covered with guns.
And also, but it's not covered with, it's not just covered with guns.
It's filled with those support guys.
Yeah.
It is a factory, is a gigantic factory that goes,
if you kill any of our guys, they're coming back here,
I'll fix them up in a jiffy and send them right back.
Monoliths are one of the,
and there's quite a few of these in the game.
Pieces of the game you can play with,
which have, from a lower standpoint,
no business in a 2K game.
No.
These things should be,
a monolith should be 3,000 points
and should be the size of a time.
It also just looks over everything.
Yeah, just to be the size of a tight.
It's full of, in the instance,
side of a monolith would have 3,000 points of stuff, just fixing shit.
It should be like, remember when you and I were kids, sorry, sorry everyone who does
know what they, the big Thundercat, they could travel, you put all the big ship,
or some of the big GI Joe thing, the G.I. Joe, uh, space ship. Yeah, yeah, those,
that's what this thing should be on tabletop, but it's not. Anyway, the last one that that comes
online, though, is the overlord. Up to this point, there have been lords who've been
activated during the immortal phase, the lords who were kind of like your sergeant.
Yeah, but they're still like sergeant.
Now, the overlord.
Because there's only one.
Well, I'm saying, remember, let's back it up, though.
This is, they operate in a dynasty system.
This is, they're still working.
They have nobility.
This is how it works.
The overlord is the highest ranking noble that is in here.
And he is in charge.
Also, overlords fully in charge of their faculties.
Yeah.
Overlord's lost.
none of,
nothing to the C-Tan's.
So the overlord is inactivated.
When the overlord is activated,
the tomb mind
seeds all control to the overlord
and basically becomes a,
like, support AI
in the background.
It's now a background program
that takes care of.
Whatever the overlord tells us to do.
Yeah.
At this stage, you have a fully awakened
tomb world. It is ready for war.
And now it is also,
it's also,
susceptible to the good, the good and the bad, because it might be, you might have to make a
dumb maneuver because the Siley King's wildly better at strategy and planning, even though he's
pouting, than all of these other guys are.
I'm sorry, it just is.
The overlords were not, the overlords were in a lot of ways, kind of classic nobility, where,
yes, they were in a position of power.
But not because they deserve.
They're not Napoleon who conquered most of Europe.
They're just the son of a son of a son of a son of a son of a son.
They were all pretty mutated, too.
So anyway, once this is done, you've now got a fully awakened world.
So what comes next?
And each overlord will decide whatever action is best for them.
For those of you who know who Trey's in the Infinite is, we're going to cover him a lot later.
he does something no one else does,
but we're going to go with the normals.
The normals do one of two things.
They're going to either build up resources
so they can do a conquest
or they're going to start conquesting.
The most common one that they go with
is what's called a red harvest.
The C-Tan made this up.
Red harvest means...
They murder everything.
Everything. Just everything.
They do the red wedding,
but on a galactic level.
Just kill anything and everything
and claim everything for themselves.
And they, one of the bigger things is, is that they're, while they're doing this, they're supposed to be maintaining a low profile.
So their low profile means we genocide every possible thing.
No witnesses.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So like no one can go out.
And they actually do a wild job about this because, again, their technology is still light years ahead of everybody else's.
Yeah.
The entire systems just went dark.
And mankind was like, well, let's go send a probe.
probe doesn't reply back. Everything goes dark. So, yeah, things are not great.
They're ruined it. Like, in the beginning, I do think on a side note, I think that the Necron
started off wildly overconfident because they met these. They originally don't even find Eldar.
So it's just, it's just mankind. That's the whole thing. They come in, but, I mean, let's kind of
explain where they're waking up to.
They're waking up in a galaxy.
They know they're supposed to, they're aware of their plan.
Their plan is to basically wake up on the other side of the Eldar.
So they expected to come up with no opposition.
For the most part, that's kind of what happens initially.
A couple of human settlements, but they're not a challenge because no one's ever
fought something like this before.
Well, it's also, they're backwood.
Technology-wise, they're backwoods and no one's even.
Yeah.
No one has a plan for him.
I'll give Imperium credit.
Once we fight a couple of them,
we figure it out.
Even if it's figured it out by,
we can probably jam up your machine
by throwing billions of human bodies inside of it.
Oh, that's actually one thing we published.
I just, as you say,
I remembered something.
When we're covering the awakening,
there was one more step of the awakening.
That's when the entirety of the tomb world
phase shifts from below the surface
to above the surface.
And whatever is above the surface
is in for quite the shock.
Lots of human worlds get riggedy wrecked.
Yeah, just you're hanging out, as Brad's saying, you're on the farm, you're growing your
tomatoes.
It's not tomatoes, it's corp starch.
But you're growing something gross.
Same thing, right?
You're growing something gross.
And all of a sudden, a monolith and a million Necron warriors carrying Galsblasters appear.
And you notice this just as you die.
Which is also a shitty way to die because Gau's weapons basically super...
get to that in a minute. I'm super
upset about that, by the way.
That's not what a Gauss weapon is. It's named
after a mathematician. We'll get there.
We'll get there.
Not in the fluff. It doesn't matter.
We'll get there. In the fluff of every other sci-fi,
it is.
Literally 100% guys.
So let's go into the Imperium
the Necron's because that's what we're talking about. So first contact.
As with all of imperial
history, there's a lot of contact
before first contact.
Yeah. There's a recorded first contact.
Yeah.
We also don't, we don't talk about the times when we get hopelessly ruined.
Those never get put down to the history.
I mean, I laugh at this because there's a date for first contact that exists,
and it comes from the first Necron Codex.
In that same Necron Codex, there are stories of contact before first contact.
Yep.
From Admec Explorers, who, and of course it's Admec Exploers.
It's actually Admec Rogue Traders, which are coming out there trying to find stuff.
And basically, I think the story, just the short version is a road trader reported back he found
cool technology disappeared.
Well, because he also pushed the start button and things didn't go well.
Multiple ad mech rush over there to go find the technology also go dark.
Obviously, what begins to happen is world to start going dark.
The problem for humanity is this is happening at a really inopportune time.
Well, it's also happening at an inopportune place.
Yeah.
Because everywhere else is a full war.
And over here wasn't that much war.
Damn it, there's more war.
Well, and that's the thing.
But you've got this time where we're in like, you know, the late,
it's like right on the 40th millennia.
So we're full-blown chaos incursions.
You have Abaddon launching Crusades.
Your demon incursions.
The Drew Carrier are now raiding.
Eldar rating. In theory, the tau, but...
And the weird thing is that Eldar aren't really attacking.
They're trying to stop chaos while arguing with...
Because Eldar pretty Eldar-centric on...
We could kill you to slowly...
Yeah, I was going to say, let's call it what it is.
I mean, they are dicks.
Yeah, the Eldar wiping out human planets because it might slow down chaos a little bit.
Yeah.
I mean, you're not wrong.
I mean, they are trying to slow down chaos.
That's true.
The challenge is that mankind doesn't realize that there's another xenos species.
So the same thing that ends up happening with Tyrannids, by the way, where they don't,
they're not aware when the Tyrannins first hit, they just assume it's another chaos invasion
because there's nothing there.
Eventually, though, they do send some recon fleets out to these areas, and those also go dark.
And the order comes in finally of, hey, maybe we should get more involved.
Luckily, there's a planet called Sanctuary, which is full of sisters.
Yes.
This is the first official contact, but this is a big deal because because of everything else going on,
the necrans, I can't say they get lucky, but they get a little lucky because the Imperium is just slow to do things.
So even though the necrons are coming on slow, because they're not, they're supposed to be, everybody's supposed to be online.
Yeah.
They're not helping each other because they're a bunch of greedy bastards that hate each other.
All of these things are happening and could have been terrible for the Necron's,
except for the fact that we're a cruise ship trying to make a hot turn,
which is the Imperium.
And it takes us a while.
And this is actually a big deal with the Sisters planet because it effectively kicks the Imperium.
The Empire has no choice.
Right.
The Sanctuary is one of the key systems for the system.
from recruitment and training.
Again, it's also a faith world.
You know what I mean?
It's one of the things that you can't let go away.
It's a beacon of the emperor.
Yeah, well, they totally had to because the necrons wrecked the sisters.
Oh, just broad.
Yeah, and this, but what happens, what's so important about this is that this is the first time there are vid recordings.
So it gets back to the impear and they can now see.
Well, they also broadcast this.
Yeah.
But now they can see, holy shit, what are these?
things. We've never seen them before. And in the vid recordings, they can see the necrons being killed
and then rising back up. Yep. People are teleporting away. If you just let the necrown,
because if they don't get hurt, they don't get, let's go that real side note. Yeah. There's two types of
being messed up as a necrown. I have to be telecorded back to the monolith. Yep. Or walk it off.
You're basically your nanobots will fix you.
You're only mostly dead.
You're just give it a moment and I'll shake this off.
I effectively have regeneration.
And we now, and that's the,
mankind's now seeing that.
And this is a, okay, time to engage.
And they send fleets to go deal with this problem.
But this is a big deal because if this doesn't happen,
it could be a billion times worse
because we would have more of a coordinated assault
because,
Silent Kings.
Yeah, there's a buddy
has made a return.
So as we said
in the last cast...
He's done pouting.
Yeah, he was still pout.
He went into dark space to pout.
And there's a lot of like stories of
like no one really knows
what he does when he's out there.
He's actually,
they've read condit,
so he's shown up multiple times
to kind of do stuff.
But the original he was just kind of out there.
Because he showed up.
I mean, he's high five Dante and stuff.
Exactly.
Because he's trying to stop
Tomb Worlds from being destroyed
specifically by Ternids in that time, but he just shows up here and there.
So the newest version of what he was doing,
because originally he was going out there almost to kind of, like,
the self-punish himself.
He was self-exiling himself.
He was going to dwell on his mistakes until it was the time of the necrons again.
And instead, what he does is he decides that I'm going to convert the necrons back to a living
species. I mean, after I killed every living species in the galaxy. I like that we do back to
backs on this. Yeah. Cough, cough, him and Aramma were sitting together trying to figure things out.
Because things have done, worked about as well for both of them. They're not the best writers
that we're dealing with here. They have an idea and they're like, what if we just keep doing
that idea in all of them? Sure, why not? Anyway, while he's traveling in dark space, he runs in the
tyrantids. And once he discovers he ursals back to the Milky Way. Yeah, because he realizes when he
sees them completely strip worlds.
He goes, oh, that'd be super bad for my people.
Is that the reason?
Or?
Okay, so we're going to have some fun here.
We're going to, people are just yelling at it.
We make mistakes pretty consistently.
And sometimes we make leaps in logic.
I'm doing this on purpose.
So the fun part about Warhammer 40K is it's all made up.
And if fans believe in something enough, sometimes a GW will
actually factor it in. One of the most popular fan theories about the tyranids is that the
tyranids are the old ones devolved due to the enslave. But the overmind. Yeah. It's not even the
overmind. That's literally the Starcraft term. Don't care. But it's still the same. The hive mind.
There we go. Whatever. What it is is that it's a leaveover. Where the tyrannids really are,
is there a leaveover of what the enslavers, like the husk that the enslavers left of the old ones.
and they just over 60 million years evolved and devolved into what is...
Because the thing about the tyranids, that's important of the tyranids is...
Or if they just made the tyranins as their best organism.
I don't know.
The problem is the tyrantids are maybe the most...
The tyrant is maybe the most powerful psychic race in the galaxy.
Which are in the universe.
Who?
Orks.
The orcs are different, though.
The difference is you don't sense the orcs.
That's true.
I would say that the tyranids are,
because the tunins are a constantly evolving, a psychic...
power so powerful that it controls
gazillions of
organisms. They can reach across systems
with their psychic energy and it doesn't
effectively, it affects the warp, but it doesn't
communicate over the space of
dark space, like basically intergalactic.
So there is a fan theory that the reason
that the Sunking booked back to the Milky Way is he
sensed it was the old ones.
The same power, yeah. Yeah, it's the old ones.
I got it, we have to go deal with them.
They're back.
And we can't go ask our C-Tan buddies because they're kind of mad at us right now.
Well, you can ask them, but you'd have to get them all together because you broke them
into small shows.
Yeah, exactly.
It's not, it's overall not a great situation.
We'll be right back after a quick break.
So the Silent King runs back to the galaxy.
He does get, he gets back a little bit after.
So all this is occurring after the necrons have begun awakening.
He arrives in 774.
M41. So we were probably within a thousand years at a lot of the Necron wake up.
Well, dude, I mean, you have to use the meme on it because when Glover walks back in and
community, it just comes in with the pizzas and everything's on fire.
So if you guys haven't seen the meme, and some of you may not know what's from,
of the meme of the guy holding the pizzas and at the front of the apartment while it's on fire
and everyone's fighting.
You know what calling him, Childish Gambino walks in.
It is exactly the Sonic King. It is exactly the Sonic King.
The Sun King came back to a galaxy expecting to find his race,
waking up, doing that big morning stretch, having a cup of coffee.
But also everything being, like, unbelievable technology, and we're going to be.
We're ready to go, and he comes back to just pure dumpster fire.
Just, oh, my Lord.
And the tyrants have even gotten there yet.
He gets, he gets back before the tyrants are there.
He's like, we got to make sure that this doesn't have.
Oh, my God, did they, do they be here?
Oh, they're already here.
They're not?
You guys just did this on your own?
Like, what, why?
Okay.
Like, what happened, man?
The necrons are just fractured.
There's entire systems that they're not there.
You know, it's all this stuff.
You've got destroyer called.
Also, Imperium is doing Imperium stuff.
You're like, who are these people?
Where do you guys come from?
At this stage by the time, he gets back, the Eldar, by the way, are very aware of the
necrons are here, and they're making it known, including the dark Eldar.
So he just comes back to a just war.
Now, the necrons are still the most advanced race and by a wide margin.
Yeah, but put a pin in that.
They're the wildly, they're the most technologically superior by a wide margin because Eldar kind of went Amish.
They're building bombings.
True.
They refuse to use their tech because, well, they kind of leaned into the tech that got them,
that created a dark guy.
The one I do laugh at, though, more than anything, is if I think about this, the Sonic King has left the galaxy.
In theory, before he left, he knew what the Eldar were, right?
Imagine he gets back to the galaxy and finds the dark Eldar.
Which is like, what the F?
What did you guys do?
I ran a model and it said you guys would fall, but not like this.
What?
Like, what is wrong with you?
Exactly.
How did you?
Also, you broke the sky.
Yeah, like, why?
Like, you guys have a lot to answer to you.
I mean, it would be, obviously, they're never having a chat,
but Eldrad speaking to the silent king would be a hilarious conversation of both.
And again, man, seriously, what the ass.
Yeah.
Like, come on, dude.
Again, you can, that's why I say you can always win an argument with Eldar.
You just go, raise your hand if you weren't the one that broke the sky.
Also the tower there.
That's three.
Yeah, how we keep doing this?
So the Saline King realizes that the first thing he has to do is realign his legion.
His legions are, as probably saying earlier, they're just fighting with each other.
They're all over the place.
Multiple dynasties.
Yeah, the dynasties are trying to be dynasties.
Each one woke up and went, I am going to power grab.
Each one woke up and decided to make a power grab because they wildly underestimated the
Imperium.
One, none of them know how vast.
the Imperium is.
They just have first contact with effectively primitives and go.
Well, I mean, that's the same thing the Eldar felt, too, is anyone, even the, even
the Tao, or the Drukari, anyone who runs into mankind because of the way that the,
the, the Imperium space is structured, you just kind of run over a planet.
And they're like, why are you guys even here?
You guys suck at fighting.
And they're still using, which effectively to them would be like throwing spears at people.
Yeah.
It's a joke.
And then more of them show up than exist in your entire civilization.
And that's wave one of 50.
And you just go, oh, this is the system.
Like, you know.
So their initial encounters are, this is a joke.
We need to get as much power as possible for, you know, the next dynasty awakens over here.
We can grab as much of their territory as we can before they get awakened.
We could help awaken them.
But instead we're going to take all the crap.
We're going to take all the crap, exactly.
And this allows everybody else to get ready now because they're dicking around effectively.
And the silent king walks into this and he's not happy about any of this.
But he doesn't have the way to control them.
So he has to go and he goes incognito to each of the, I mean, this story, I know when they wrote it was going to sound really cool.
But then the way they wrote it is actually pretty lame.
I mean, it's a cool idea, though, because he does go literally dynasty to dynasty,
and he gives the Aragon, the braveheart speech, whatever big speech you want.
And he does kind of psych everybody out.
Right, but it doesn't make any sense because they're all, like, incredibly powered monarchy.
So there's only one person whose mind you have to change.
And the Overlord wasn't going to listen to a random dude.
True.
I'm just saying, but eventually, but according to the lore, he does do this and everyone gets on his side.
And then he, of course, reveals himself.
to be the silent king and everyone immediately goes,
cool, you're king again.
Like no, actually zero things.
He does erog on it.
He's just like, oh, cool, you're the king of the West.
Yeah, I'm also the king of the north.
Oh.
All right, let's do it.
Yeah, so they then, he's now been reinstated
and he begins the preparations for war
because the Necrons do have the best technology
and they know how to use it.
Mankind used to have great technology.
Hasn't known worry if it was.
They were never, did the Necron set.
And the Eldar have lost.
a ton, as I was saying before, they lost a ton of it.
The reason I'm bringing this up is that
mankind has lost
the ability to make more of its technology
than it has created new technology.
Eldar are the same boat.
They have old technology.
They're worried about also the way they did it because
Oh, that's a good point.
No, because Eldor won't tap into what they did before
because all of their stuff is psychic-based
and they don't want to effectively power
their machines with Slanesh juice.
Yeah, because Slash does
like those machines.
The necrons, as long as they just can find the resources,
which exist throughout the galaxy,
because these are the galaxy, they built them all in the first place.
So the necrons can make new weaponry.
They can't make new necrons, is there one problem,
but since they're technically immortal,
not really that big of a threat.
So the necrons, it's really, I want to harp on how incredibly dangerous they are
to the galaxy because of that,
because they started off with the best technology,
and there's nothing holding them back from making new or...
but also, the only thing holding them back is themselves and they're in-
right.
And that's-
Because if they immediately banded together,
mankind would have got raffle-stombed.
Well, because for, you know, as a comparison,
mankind is producing like dozens of Terminator armor a year.
That's because it's so hard to make it.
And the necrons are inventing new guns.
They're also magic.
Yeah.
Effectively.
They actually do think that,
they're using psychic powers at first.
Yeah.
So actually,
well,
we should actually jump into
some of the Necron technology.
I think it is,
especially from a lower side,
when some of them are super cool.
And the first one I want to touch on
is the null field matrices.
I do love the fact that we wrote on the notes.
It's like a Gellerfield,
but it actually works.
Yeah.
It's identical to a Gellerfield.
Yeah.
It just works.
Yeah.
Also, the Gellerfield,
because we got yelled at this in chat,
Gellerfield, not just throwing terms out there that no one knows what it is.
Gellerfield is a protective field to stop the warp from getting into your ship, getting into your equipment.
It makes it, it makes a block between the immaterial and the material and the material that nothing can go.
And the Geller Field is good, but the Gellarfield is like you bought it from Acme and Necron's went, that's cute, but this is a real thing.
Yeah, the Gellerfields fail all the time.
Yeah.
The Keller Fields were made by McGiver out of tape and some gum.
And the neck rods went, this works every time.
We're just going to build this.
Literally, when you're within a Nullfield matrix, a demon would just blink out of the case.
Exactly.
He has no connection to the real world.
You cannot cast psychic powers.
Like, again, not a rule they ever gave them in the tabletop, which would have made me not sell this army.
Which was so huge on it because they semi don't, it's nothing they don't care about the Tarnan's, but they can like, they can, like, they can,
stop the tyranids from going places.
Yeah, the tyranids will actually avoid these worlds because it's just...
Well, they lose connection.
They just...
They have unled mountains of tyranny, you know, gonds and stuff like that,
and or they lose connection to their fleets, and they just wander.
One funny piece on that is the tyranids actively avoid these, these nithilmetries,
so you can actually see the tyranids are avoiding Necron planets, which is really helpful
when you don't know that that's a necrone planet.
So mankind actually will now attack.
And so with Eldar, planets that they see the necrons avoiding
because they know that there's a tomb world there.
That tomb world may not be fully activated.
This would be a tough fight if it wasn't for the fact
that you guys aren't ready for funding.
The next major piece of their technology is a Dolman Gate,
which is necron.
It's the way the necrons can access the webway.
And it's...
Did they have this?
Can we just have this argument now?
We have this discussion now.
Is this an old tech or a new tech?
It's old.
The Dolman Gates exists in the War of Heaven.
Yeah, they did.
100%.
The Dolman Gates were around.
Because I thought they were just doing the,
because they were entering.
You know what I mean?
And that's how they entered.
The Dolman Gate was how they answered.
All the Dolman Gate, the Dolman Gate is not a webway.
The Dolman Gate allows you to get into the webway and out the other side.
It's just a breacher charge, basically.
Well, it's a weird thing.
So basically, if you have a, you can have a, you can build a dolman gate in one spot and a
dolman gate in the other.
When you open the dolman gate, you can then enter the webway.
Like, you don't put the dolman gate at a webway gate.
It's a, it's an extra way in.
So that necrons can then effectively travel via the webway with a dolman gate.
Can we also start an argument in hopefully our discord in other places?
Is the webway sentient?
It appears it might be because the thing is, is it does say, like in the necron codexes,
When, so for example, the necrons can use these dolmen gates, but they can't move their entire forces through them because the second a necron is sensed in the Webway, the Webway kills them.
Yeah, well, it doesn't.
I'm saying, they, I'm sorry, they cut it.
It doesn't have to kill them.
He goes, hey, enjoy being in the warp.
Goodbye.
Yeah, and they're just gone.
And so they disappear.
So you can only really use like, like a hexmark destroyers, lich guard.
You use the Dolman Gates to drop them in, but you can imagine this power of you're fighting the.
necrons, and they're just appearing everywhere on you.
And there's a lot of...
Which is funny because they have teleport technology also.
Yeah, I think this one goes a lot farther.
The ability of necrons to phase shift seems to have a limitation on that.
It has a limitation on distance where the Dolman Gates, they can jump systems.
Yeah, and will instantaneously again.
Yeah.
The other major piece of technology, of course, is Blackstone.
And this is coming back up now.
Obviously, as we discussed in the episode before,
the necrown pylons that were all over Cadia were literally holding the eye of terror in place.
And, I mean, the Blackstone fortresses are ridiculously powerful.
Blackstone, because Blackstone's a weird thing.
We actually were talking about this on the episode when we talked about a Blackstone fortress.
I went and did some extra research.
Blackstone either completely turns off psychic powers or boosts to the next level.
It's really not clear how those two things work.
the necrons obviously use it for one of them.
As a result, this gives the necrons an incredible power against imiterium.
So primarily demons.
Well, before in the lore, and this is one of my favorites, we'll dip into this real quick
because this is a real quick side story.
But in the lore of, if you read, in the beginning of the eighth,
before Abidon made the Iotera into the Rift, which cut across the galaxy,
they were talking about the necrons have a conversation that they were just going to shut all that down.
They're planning on trying to stop the rift, but they were just, they thought the eye of terror was cute, and they were just going to close it.
Yeah, that was the original plan was to close it.
And now they're doing more of this.
There is a problem, though.
The necrons think that if we just shut down all the psychic, you know, all, basically we turn off the e-materium, the galaxy.
It's a good thing.
Right, but the Astronomicon kind of needs that.
So mankind can't let this happen.
The Eldar can't let this happen.
Yeah, everything is...
It's all the forces of evil,
so the demons, chaos, the tyrants cannot let this happen,
but also a lot of the forces of quote-unquote good.
I mean, not really good.
Also, the fact is that while as smart as the necrons are,
they came back to a warp that wasn't the warp for them.
Remember, the warp was just a pool of energy.
Yeah, now it's...
Now it has gods in it.
Yeah, so they kind of don't know.
know the full extent of it.
They know that stuff, it's crazy.
Things are happening, but they don't know.
Because they can't.
There's not a single member of their species that can touch it.
Correct.
They have no way to understand this.
So it's all tech.
They have to do data based on things that are happening.
And you don't know that, oh, yeah, there's an endless supply of war met.
Also, we probably should put out that the species in the galaxy that knows it the best, they could best explain to them is their oldest and most serious enemy.
me, yeah. Hey, I know that we had our differences. I'm aware I killed your dad, but hear me out.
Could you walk me through this magic thing you're doing? It's kind of cool. Yeah, but we'd also like to
plan against it. So yeah, we're going to plan against it and genocide you afterwards. Cool.
So now we're going to go. I know you guys are just being dicks. Just tell me about it.
The next key piece of technology is going to involve a John Rent. So just be what it is when it first is.
It disintegrated people.
Okay, fine.
It doesn't even just disintegrate you.
It rubs it down real fast.
You basically sandpapered.
You can keep saying all these words.
I'm going to walk you through.
Gouse is named after a man named Gouse.
He was a mathematician.
Yeah, I know what it really is.
Has been around forever.
It's also called in 40K a magna rail.
That's what a magna rail is Gous.
It's not been what they used it.
Watch the video games.
It disintegrates you down.
I understand that, but I'm telling you,
Gauss is an actual thing.
The U.S. Navy, B.A.e, the company, has built one.
Yeah, it's a rail gun.
That's what mass.
It's on the front of a battleship.
Yeah, it's a rail gun.
It's amazing.
It's been around forever.
Yeah.
Like, mass driver.
I mean, like, there's Carl Gauss.
That's the guy's name.
The mathematician was named Carol Gauss.
That's what is named after.
And GW just went, I don't want to get sued by a mathematician.
You know, it's going to, however.
However, you know what his middle name was probably?
not super cool as being disintegrated slowly.
They could have gone with anything.
Because the next weapon they went with was Tesla,
which they got right.
It's a lightning gun.
Yeah.
This was a choice they made.
That's all I'm going with.
I'm just saying rail guns versus being sandpapered to death a billion times?
I mean, I'm assuming it's because someone just wrote down
disintegration gun and they were like, we can't do that.
And so then someone else went.
But that's what it does.
I know, but it's one with gals.
That sounds awesome, and no one looked it up.
Yeah, but the Marines were already using that.
That's what's Imperium technology, actually.
Just going with it.
Like, there's, every time.
You know what's cooler, though?
You know what's cooler to say, the disintegration gun or gauze?
Yeah.
Death rays.
Particle cannons are actually cool as though.
So let's have fun.
There's multiple levels of these amazing things.
So a particle cannon is an antimatter gun.
What is antimatter?
It's like, ask the nanomachines.
It's not matter.
Yeah.
It's anti.
Part of cannons shoot chunks of antimatter at things.
And when antimatter hits matter, it makes it explode like when sodium hits water.
It's not a great reaction.
It's also not a great reaction to have inside your body, which is what they do.
Yeah.
It is incredible anti-armor.
But sometimes the armor is a little bit too thick for antimatter.
So what do you bring then, Brad?
Doomsday cannons.
They don't screw around after this.
Yeah.
Now we're going with plasma.
Like, look, the tau have plasma that doesn't explode.
It's not even that it doesn't explode.
It's also double or triple the strength.
The Tesla have, yeah, that's sorry.
The necrons have plasma cannons that are named a doomsday cannons because it'll crack,
it'll crack a spaceship in half.
Yeah.
It's a big deal.
It's not strength eight.
But sometimes the doom.
Doomsday canons aren't enough.
So you bring...
The death rays.
Death rays are a basically active doomsday canon that just shoots an endless beam.
It's a sci-fi doom ray.
Just don't even...
Who cares about the technology, John?
It is awesome sauce.
It can slice a tightness.
Yes.
That's what it does.
It is a beam of who cares what it is.
If you were doing the anime right now, it would be a wild-colored beam that's cutting through things.
What's more powerful, the death ray,
sanguinius when he's fighting on the...
A terra.
Yeah.
I mean, it's probably sanguinius, but...
Because he would power up by tank.
And then it just shoves a spear through an imperial war titan and it dies.
Yeah.
Although truthfully, the greatest power the Necrons have for war is their enemy.
It's not even close.
This is...
Their weapons are cute, to be honest with you, because everybody's got big guns.
Yeah.
But the reason the necrons are terrifying.
is, again, they're the undead of 40K.
Because if you, especially for the Imperium.
Yeah.
Because the Imperium fights wars of attrition.
That is our whole strategy.
I don't care if it's people think it's something else.
It's just not.
Yeah.
And so the thing about what makes the reanimation to kind of touch,
we touched on it earlier, to go through it again,
there's two parts of animation,
reanimation.
First is the living metal that the necrons are made of.
So as a Necron, if you kind of like shoot chunks of it off, those chunks will just reform.
Even if you blast it with a missile launcher, it'll just fall down and those pieces will come back together, reform.
Liquid metal. Watch the term. Watch terminate.
So if you do enough damage to them, they'll just kind of pop up.
But if you do even more damage, they've also got a teleporter built into them.
So they can teleport off the battlefield to the factory that's going to rebuild them.
And it rebuild them better.
Yeah, and rebuild them almost instantly, too.
And then teleport them back.
So you've got this enemy that you're shooting,
they're knocking them down.
They're getting back up in a couple of minutes.
Or you're blasting it.
It turns to green light disappears.
It takes a lot.
It also takes a lot of battles for the Imperium
to figure out what the hell is happening.
Because they lose wild amounts of people.
Again, Imperium fights,
Atrish Moore is, like, we have more stuff than you do.
You will eventually run out of stuff.
We will have more stuff.
There actually is a really cool story.
And I forget where this one was.
But the Imperium are engaging with the Necrons.
And they know about this.
So they send a Death Watch kill team into the monolith, who then they find the chamber that the overlord,
basically gets reanimated in.
While they're in there, the overlords direct in the Necrons.
another kill team shoots the Necron Overlord,
which then triggers his teleportation.
He teleports to what is a sarcophagus
to find it covered in melta bombs.
And as soon as he gets there, they blow him up.
And just a cool story.
They had to figure that out.
Again, the Imperium is slow to adapt and learn.
Yes, space marines are supposed to be adaptable.
That's per battle.
But like, we don't figure this out for a hot second,
to be honest with you.
So to be fair, it becomes a real deal.
Necron's become a pretty big problem.
We start allocating real forces.
Because we have a choice.
Yes.
That kicks us up to kind of the state of the game today.
Where are necrons?
What's happening?
So at the start of the 10th edition, which is where we are now, the necron forces are being
to grow exponentially.
The earliest, the earliest words to come online are fully functional.
more are being added by the name.
And also because the silent king went
door to door giving his Rudy speech,
the other
dynasties are kind of
working with each other, and then they're
begrudgingly going, yeah, there's 23
tombards over there that I'd never helped.
And then they go get those.
They go help those guys and wave them up.
And they start, yeah, and they start getting their numbers.
Again, that's why they're going exponentially
is they're terrifying for the Imperium,
now starting to begrudgingly work together.
Exactly. Then we move into the other races and their interaction with the necrans.
The Eldar. The Eldar are pissed.
Yeah.
They've been rereading the Black Library.
And the biggest thing for the Eldar is that the Eldar are the only race to understand how dangerous the necrons are.
Yeah, because the rest of the races just know them as this unknown threat that just showed up.
The necrons know them as the ancient evil.
And they know what the necrons will do.
They know the necrons will wipe out all life in the galaxy.
Because they've only, that's what they've ever done.
Right.
You're like, hey, are you necrons?
No, cool, you're dead.
So they're, the Eldar are now waging two wars against the necrons.
One, fighting necrons where they are.
And two, hunting down any unwaived.
And this is what they're doing mostly to be perfectly fair.
Yeah, the second one's safer.
Yeah.
Yeah, well, no, because, again, the Eldar are very preserved Eldar life.
So they try to not get in conflicts that aren't wildly in their favor.
Yeah.
So they're doing, you know, same thing that Dark Eldar do.
Raid missions move away.
They're like, I could fight Necrons or I could punch sleeping necrons.
It seems way cooler.
The other than the Leder are doing a good job of is telling mankind where the necrons are going to be for the big battles and letting the Space Marines deal with them.
Mankind, it's pretty simple.
Like, hey, look, the Zeno race.
I guess we'll just kill that one, too.
We're not real discriminated on what we do with that.
So I looked in the mirror, then I looked at those guys, and they didn't look the same.
Shoot them in the face.
Exactly.
So necrone, because necrons are a Zenos, so they'll have to die.
A violent Zenos, they have to die.
A violent Zenos that keeps taking away key imperial worlds.
Also, wait a second.
They have technology that we don't.
So obviously they're bad.
Yep.
Well, the ad me feel a little bit differently about like, hey, could we just, I know you want to kill them, but please?
Yeah, let me grab some stuff.
Also, I heard there's one of those guys.
in your home planet, let's not talk about that.
It's not important.
Let's not one of the guys.
It's just the emperor had a chat with the dragon.
Tao, who cares?
Who cares?
The orcs are the other one.
They're starting to rile up the orcs.
The orcs, as we said before, like a good fight.
I really think that there's going to be a big log.
That's an orc player out of that.
But the orcs,
orcs are doing way more to the necrons
than the necrons thought they would
because even though they do a bad job
of being 3D in the galaxy,
the orcs are to the left
of the necrown. They're effectively coming from
behind where the necrons want.
And the problem with the orcs is the orcs have
fought necrons and lost.
So now more
orcs. So they're coming over. There have
been some mini-waws that have occurred
against them.
The orcs, so
the problem with the orcs is
don't rile up the orcs. It just makes
more orcs. That's why
I think we're going to have a big wad.
story-wise, they've been alluding to it a lot in a lot of the short stories and stuff like that.
Yeah, and then the tyrants are the interesting one, because the thing with the tyranids is we don't really know what they're thinking because they're not big into the talkie-talkie.
They're more into the eating and eating thing of humanity.
But we've noticed the tyrantids are avoiding necrone worlds.
The necrons are not avoiding the tyrannids.
They're going full bones.
Even a story of the space remains, is it the blood angels?
The blood angels.
The blood angels are fighting the necrons.
And then they go talk to Dante.
They're like, we need to go fight the Tenerty.
The Tertan fleet appears in orbit and they go, hey, I'm going to go fight them now.
This is more interesting.
And they go, and that's exactly what they go do.
And this is a big deal because mankind is now almost aligning with the necrons in some areas.
The thing is that the Ternids are the bigger, even though the Nekrons are also,
we're doing a thing about the necrons, the Ternids.
The tyranids are the...
They're the real threat.
The necrons could become...
The necrons have the potential
to become the greatest threat in the galaxy.
The tyranids are the greatest threat
in the galaxy, as a stance.
And my viewpoint is also
that at a certain point,
the hive mind is going to take notice,
and is it going to change...
What I'm wondering is,
are the tyranids avoiding the necrons
or the tyrantids setting up
to wreck the necrons?
Because the problem for the tyrant
is the necrans don't provide the many...
The necrons themselves, because the biomass.
That's the problem.
But the necrons are on planets that have biomass.
So that's the necrans aren't like, they're not doing like the Russian retreat from the Nazis where they're burning their plants and sitting on the planet going scorched Earth.
Why bothering Tiranids?
They're mining planets.
They're doing stuff because the necrone technology requires resources.
Exactly.
So there is stuff for the tyrantids on those planets.
One other piece that's going on is one very specific member of this.
the necrons that I think we should jump into.
We're going to talk about Trazen.
We're not going to talk about my boy, Orkin, but we're going to talk about Trayson.
Because he's the collector.
He's also part of the best, one of the best 40K books.
The other than the divine.
It's holy crap.
These guys fighting, Trazen is wandering around.
Let's start with who they are.
So Trayson and Orkin.
So Trayson is an overlord of a very specific dynasty called,
solemnness. It's just
him. He's got his own
tomb world. And
Trazen awoke to
a galaxy that everyone
else saw and said, wow, this galaxy is
on fire. I'm surrounded by enemies.
I'm going to kill them all. And
Trayson woke up and went, hey, everyone
around here has got some pretty cool shit.
I want that. I want all of that stuff.
No, I want one. I want one.
One. He doesn't want all of it. He wants one.
I firmly believe that Trayson
doesn't realize it, but he's an orc-free Buddha.
Yeah. He's picking up shiny shit.
Over and over and over again.
He is, I wrote, he's a combination of a hoarder with a kleptomaniac and a librarian.
He's also coming up with wildly overcomplicated plans to achieve everything.
This is why he's great.
And again, we, I don't want to do a full cast on him because I just have to read the books to you guys.
But his books and his stories are hilarious.
He's just, like, all of his plans are wildly, movies that people have called people out.
Yeah.
Why are your plans so complicated?
He is, but he is traveling the galaxy,
and by traveling,
warping in and out of places to just steal stuff.
Using tech that no one else has also,
which he could help so much the rest of his race.
He literally tells the Necron's to go have themselves over and over again
when they ask him for helping to do stuff,
although it's awkward when he himself finds himself in certain pickles.
He's like, you shouldn't have a...
Yeah.
Pissed off, well, every, carry the one, everyone?
Well, especially one person who's always,
Abidon himself.
Oh, I mean, he does kind of shenanigans him.
Yeah.
But, I mean, the truth is, for those who like Marvel,
he's a collector.
That's actually who he really is.
He's just rocking around, having a war with Oricon,
with, um,
Oricon the Diviner?
Yeah.
Him and Oricon the Diviner just hate each other.
are...
Since the end of...
Beginning of time.
And are constantly trying to kill each other
and capture each other.
In the most laughable, wackiest ways.
It's really...
They take turns capturing each other.
But just to kind of make you all read these books about him,
I'm going to read off a few elements of his collection.
One, he has...
I like that you just started with this.
What?
He just has an enslaver.
Yeah, he hasn't enslaved.
Which is the worst idea ever, by the line.
He has an enslaver.
He also has an enslaver.
He also has a...
a custode who just stuck there on original Rubik's Cube. I figure what movie that's from,
but it's a movie reference from some I've seen one time. He has a clone of Fulgroom and a crook.
He also has Oricon the Diviner for now, and currently, and a certain leader of the Imperial Guard,
who everyone thinks is dead. But it's in stasis. It just didn't stay saying other.
He also has an infinite amount of space because he's got a dimensional plane effectively,
It just has all this shit.
I actually want them to rewrite Trayson as a Xeno version of a rogue trader with its own retune.
So him, like some, a couple of free Buddhas, a harlequin.
Oh, for sure.
And there's traveling the galaxy collecting random crap and bringing it back.
Because he is effectively building the Necron Black Library.
And he's doing this all while other shit's happening.
Yeah.
The whole galaxy is at war.
And he's like, yeah, but there's a, he's trying.
He tried to take Vulcan spear twice, I think, now.
He tried to steal Abidon's sword.
From Abidon.
Like, while he was holding it.
It's really cool.
He's freaking amazing.
These books are great.
You should all read them.
But that just kind of gives us where we should be from a lore standpoint with
Necron.
We will,
we're going to keep talking about necronns as we talk more about something 40K.
I mean, we still haven't even gotten.
Let's talk about the fact that they've pushed the lore forward
in the last seven years since 8th edition started.
We've actually moved.
And we haven't even touched really on that.
Yeah, the necrons are getting more stuff.
Exactly.
They are a really great race.
And they play a key role.
At some point, we're probably going to do a couple of casts on the actual fall of Acadia.
Actually, honestly, we're going to do some casts on the 13th Black Crusade.
Because just like...
Shit's happening.
It lasted 17 years of real time.
So there's a lot of...
I mean, you got to talk about arcs and stuff like that.
Yeah.
When you're Blackstone Fortresses or...
Hulks are in Space Hulks are not big enough.
Sometimes you have to have arcs.
Yeah.
And so that's where like the reason we're doing these casts,
we're kind of doing the occasional one on a faction specific
is because it helps us tell the more story at large.
And that's what this is meant to be.
So we hope that you guys like this coverage.
As always, like and subscribe, comment positively on the cast.
Again, if you don't like something,
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Come into the Discord and make a comment.
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I'm happy to do it.
So, you know, let's just, let's get that positive.
Help us.
Now, another actually due to the Discord, someone requests that we talk about power armor.
We were going to talk about power armor next week, but we can't talk about power armor without talking about space Marines.
Also, this next episode we do, if you don't like hearing the wackiness of a Marine, you just don't like sunshine and puppies because it's going to be fun.
It's going to be crazy.
There's just some, some of the organs they put in space.
I will be getting wildly.
Are such a level of who cares.
Yep.
I will also be why it's their so over so OP.
Yeah.
And I will be, I guarantee you, I apologize in in advance.
I will get so off track talking about these audiences.
Yeah, this is going to be fun.
So with that, I'm John Barside.
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