The 40k Lorecast - Episode 54 - The Grey Knights pt 1 - The Flight of the Eisenstein and the Knights Errant.

Episode Date: September 30, 2024

On today's cast we start our coverage of the Grey Knights by focusing on their origin from the Horus Heresy. We open with, arguably the most exciting book of the Horus Heresy the Flight of the Eisenstein. From Nathaniel Garro’s discovery of the rebellion, through his journey back to Terra. After that we focus on the formation of the Knights Errant and their adventures in service to Malcador. We then close with the end of the Knights Errant as they are given an new purpose by the Emperor.PatreonMerchandiseDiscord Link:Our WebsiteRetro RecalltOur Sponsors:* Check out BetterHelp: https://www.betterhelp.com* Check out Pebl: https://hellopebl.com* Check out Pebl: https://hipebl.ai* Check out Shopify: https://shopify.com/loreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Welcome to the 40K lore cast. Welcome to the 40K lore cast with me, John Barciotti and Brad Chester. This guy. On today's episode, we're going to start our dive into the shiniest of all of the space marines, but also the most secretive faction, the Grey Knights. And we're going to do that by not talking about the Grey Knights. At all. Basically, yeah.

But we are going to talk about the flight of the Eisenstein. Cool story. One of my favorite stories. Yeah, so we're good. And the actions of what were known as the Knights Errant. Before we begin, as always, please like and comment on the cast. We've had an explosion recently in viewers, and it really has been remarkable. Yeah, that's because we got top ranked, like, even higher than ever on Spotify and on Apple.

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Ready for old band reference of the week? Every time you say remaster, I think who's the master? from the last dragon. Yeah, that's what, 82? Dear God. Dear God. I was just going with remaster.

Like, they do the... Bruce Leroy and show enough. I was going with remaster, like, they did all the audio from the music, you still listen to it. Because the guys recorded it on, like... On the track. In this cast, I'm about to get the glow.

And the four people that know what I'm talking about will be excited that I said that. It's all right. Better than the last episode. We had talked about how I hadn't seen Avatar for a while. Don't get started. If you want to interact with us or anyone about this type of topic, we do have a Discord, the links in the notes. The Discord is really grown massively at time of recording.

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has meant a lot to you because you're the ones who paid for it. And for those of you who are looking to help us out, it is, it's the best way to do it. Now, last little piece, though, because Brad's here is Brad's old and he plays a lot of 40K. He's downgraded so much here. It's not. I'm joking. I like to tease Brad. Brad is a coach of 40K.

He's also one of the best 40K players in the globe and has been for a long time. So there you go. There's like one out of four episodes. I give you a lot of credit. Yay. We saw this one off positive. Yeah, Brad has had a lot of successful experience, successful experience both playing the game,

but more importantly, also coaching the game. Brad has coached a lot of very successful tournament players. So for you're looking for that stuff. That isn't the measure of success on that. So I want you to people, yeah, everything else. What I mean by that is a people,

a lot of them, everyone says they want to be a coach. To me, being a good coach is the ability to take the elite and make them good, because if you can do that, you can also take people who are new and make them better. You understand the game at a higher level. The thing you don't want in a coach is a coach who has a ceiling. That's always been the issue because then you have to change coaches part way through.

Right. You end up falling behind. One of my favorite parts is the fact that in the notes, we don't even get my line from this. You don't even write it in anymore. Which one? Where to reach me. It's right there. You can reach him at.

It's underscored. Yeah. I leave it blank because I can't even, I'm not even typing up with it. old man, Brad 40K at gmail.com. Yeah, or just go to our website, the 40KLorecast.com. Or go to Brad's website, www. www. www.

I'm just really going back into a... What is this, 1998? Like, oh, yeah, I don't have a webpage yet. You have a... Working on it. Yeah, I have a team of experts. Top men are working on it. Top men.

Top men. Top men. Top men. Oh, that's going to be taken out of context. As well as sure. There we go. There's a fun. Just clip it. I just do every dumb thing I say.

It gets instantly clipped. I just accepted it and move on. It's fine. All right. On to the cast. So we're going to start with really, I would argue, the best book. If he's on the best, the top two books of the Horace Heresy, the Flight of the Eisenstein. It's so good.

Horace Rises might be the best. Horace rises is, you have to put it by itself, though, because it's the beginning of an epic set of tip. The flight of Eisenstein, I felt was very well-written, action-packed. You need the other information, unfortunately, for it. Yes, but once you set, that's what I'm saying. The Horace Rising sets the stage, but, like, as a standalone tale, this is fantastic. Yeah. The only literally, I have one complaint in the flight of Eisenstein, and it's not the book.

It's the complaint that the drop-off. after flight of Eisenstein's pretty aggressive. Like, if you read the books in order, you read Flight of Eisenstein and you are super excited. And I think the book that released after is Dark Angels, which is the story of Lyon where you're like, it's not a bad book, but it's not this exciting.

So anyway, Flight of Eisenstein. So we covered this, but it's been about a year. So, and we also covered last week. So just a very, very quick recap. Also, the Horace Heresy, Space Marine factions were unknowingly to half of them being split between loyalists and Trump. traitor. Horace decides he's going to make a play at one point and kind of deal a decisive blow to

the ones who are not going to join him. In a two-part deal, but that's a different story. But before he could do that, he had to look internal to prevent challenges from within. So Horace needed, not only did he have to take a swing at the loyalist legions, he also had to remove any loyalists from within his own. In order to do this, he had to know who within his own Legion were loyal. This leads us to the Warrior Lodges, which were, as we discussed last time, when Brad's like, they're a great idea. No, they weren't. They were a great idea. I stand by this. Name one time they worked out well. I didn't say they worked. I said they were a great idea. It's like saying it's a good idea has a hundred percent fail rate. I mean, there was Warrior Lodges

in some of the loyalist chapters and they're fine. No, all of the white scars turned, turned traitor. and they did kill them all. I'm just saying it was a great, a great idea. Like the only ones who didn't have a problem were the ones who didn't have them. Look, man, they just wanted to give talks between people as equals

and that sounds like a goddamn great idea. We're both people who like to talk too much, but apparently there's a limit. And the warrior lodges are that. So anyway. Apparently, if you get a, bunch of Marines together. All of their ideas go into how can we kill everybody that's not here right now. Yeah. So anyway. My bad. The Warrior Lodges were in reality spirons. That's what they

really were. It was a place where people would sit around and discuss things and they were trying to kill everybody else. Yeah. And later it was effectively, but it was billed. This is very KGB-esque to me, is how I always viewed them, which is why Brad's now groaning. You guys can't see it because he knows I'm right. Because the idea of the Warrior Lodge was, we're all going to talk openly, but we're going to have spies in there

who are going to plant certain things to see what everyone responds to and then mark down what their response was. Look, the Warrior Lodge is a goddamn good idea. Made up by the KGB. I'm not saying that it worked out. I'm choking to, death here on the suckiness of how this all worked out. Yeah, you had a great play. You really,

you really believed in this and I'm just ripping it to shreds because it's fun. I did believe. I still believe. Yeah. It was the, you're on team KGB. These, I mean, you're not wrong, but also, I did think it was a good idea. So Horace has to have a plan to deal with those who are loyal to the emperor. So Horace tells all of his legions that there's a rebellion on Istvon 3, and he's going to bring all of his legions to gather to quell it. Look, with a pause real quick, the only thing I don't like about both the dropside massacre and the Stamad 3 is the fact that they went, this is this mysterious thing that no one's ever heard about.

And it definitely takes the combined forces of multiple. That's just three. So the thing is, Istvan 3 was requires the combined force to handle one planet. Istfan 4 is when they told everyone, hey, some guys turn, turn traitor, you got to come deal with it. So that's why you were able to bring a lot more leeches. I'll give you a statement. The Dropside massacre makes more sense.

This one is like, we are overkilling the shit on a random rebel. Why are we all here? Well, and that's why I think it's Garville, Loken or Iacan sniffs it out. It was Loken. Loken sniffs it out. Because it makes no sense. Like literally, why are we here?

This is also why this book's so well done. In reality, what he's going to do, though, Horace is he's not going to deploy his entire Legion on Istfant. He's going to deploy select groups of each Legion. And you can guess, you know, who these select groups are made up. And he's going to kill the shit out of them. The funny part, by the way, Istvan 3 was not in

rebellion at all. They were just going about their daily lives. Oh, there's nobody there. That's why it's so easily sniffed up because it's just a random planet. It's like, hey, oh, hey, it's a lot of ships in orbit. What's going on? It's Tuesday. We're celebrating

Bread Day. Yeah. And so Horace's plan is to basically is to invade. And then once all the loyal, his internal loyalists are down there, they hit him with a life eater virus, which we've never talked about before. So I wanted, or maybe we did, but it was over a year ago. So what we're doing it again. Because I like the life eater virus. First off, it's not a virus.

Viruses couldn't spread the viruses. One of the guys in Deathguard is made up of the life eater. Well, it can't be a virus because of the way virus is spread. This is a bacteria. So I'm just going to say it right now. It would have to be a bacteria. Are you getting science? Yeah, because you can, like, again, just call the life eater bacteria.

Who cares? Or you could just say it's magic? Yeah, or the life eater. Who cares? Anyway, what it does is. Sorry, you didn't like the way that the magic work, John. Oh, call it magic and I have no complaints. That's the thing.

That's why I've always said it's true. Yeah, you call it magic. And I'm like, okay, yeah, it's magic. That works. It's when they're like, oh, it's a virus. That's not how virus is replicate. So anyway. The life eater virus, it's not that, it infects and what it does.

All organic matters, so as it touches it, it's in the touch it breaks it down into its most basic components. And apparently one of our basic components is methane. Ken, it's not. No, not true story at all. It's one. It's one of. It's not a main one. I didn't say it was a main.

I said it's one. Mostly carbon. I'm technically correct. The virus eats you and turns you into methane. I mean, this is why I say it's got to be a bacteria because it's in theory. It would be consuming matter. and then turning it into methane, and we have people in our Discord

who actually are biologists, and they're going to correct me if I'm wrong here or tell me I'm right. Either way. But anyway, the planet effectively, all the matter begins to just dissolve and turn into methane, and then you hit the planet with a match,

you know, a la 80s action movie, and the entire planet just burns instantly. Also, a bummer for the people that lived there that had nothing to do with that. Yeah, so, but it's a nice one-two combo of murder. So you either get eaten by the virus and turned into methane, or if you somehow duck the virus, the entire planet catches fire, which they don't cover this because no one ever does with fire explosions. Fire consumes oxygen. The reason, like, whenever you see a movie and someone like, there's a big fire explosion, they duck behind something.

Yeah, that's great. The fire will suck the air out of your lungs. I know this I do know is a fact. You'll really pull the air out of your lungs and you will suffocate. So I digress. Oh, you know what, though? They had, they have space suits, so they're probably okay, right? They're vacuum sealed, Brad, the vacuum sealed space suits. I mean, vacuum seals, so you couldn't get a fly inside of it.

Yeah, and with an oxygen supply, so they could totally survive this thing. In a filter, three of them? Yeah. Anyway. Three of them. As we were discovering in the last couple casts, this is a key one is Mortarian. Mortarian had converted most of his legion over from Taryn born to Barberus born. And at the time of Istvon, he sent all of his Terran born down to Istvon because they were terrible, except for a one guy.

And the one guy is Nathaniel Garrow. His boy. Who he loved. And as we talked about last week, but if he didn't listen, a very, very funny story happened where Mortarian was convinced Garrow, who was born on Terra, is maybe the most loyal space marine. Ever? Yeah, exactly, ever. It's him and Gilliman. Yeah.

He should be on the posters. That's me. Like, it's just that's what he is. And Morritarian's like, no, he's totally going to side with us. Brings him into a Warrior Lodge meeting. He's also told multiple times not to do this. Oh, yeah, everyone tells Mortarian, Garrow's, we cannot keep Garrow. And Mortarians, like, you guys are crazy.

Garrow sees it. He's the guy who does nothing but talk about the love, his love of the emperor. He's going to turn on the emperor. if I just ask him correctly. They bring Garrow into a, well, they mortarian brings Garrow to a warrior lodge meeting, at which point he yells at all the warrior lodge members and says, you guys are traitors to the emperor. You forget it.

We said this last week and it's one of my favorites. Garrow sneaks out after. After. Yeah, yeah. He yells at everyone, tells him you're all idiots and you're all traitors to the emperor and then sneaks out the door. You forgot the best part. You're idiots, your traitors of the emperor.

and I will stop you if you try to move forward with any of this stuff. And then he sneaks out. And it sneaks out through the world's crickiest door, I assume. It's just like. And like everybody just went, so that guy's getting shot tomorrow. Yeah. Like can we just go shoot him now? And Mortarian, of course, goes, no, guys, it's okay.

He's cool. Trust me. He's cool. Mortarian brought a cop to a drug deal. And the guy and the guy pulled out his badge. and said, I am a cop. And Mortarian went, don't worry, guys. He's totally cool.

I got this. It's no big deal. And for those of you who don't know what a drug deal is, when Brad and I grew up, drugs were illegal. However, Gero got hurt, and that saved his life. Yeah. So, anyway, fast forward a little bit. Before the events of Istvon,

Garrow gets in a fight with Slanesh demons, gets his leg broken, and it actually has to have his leg replaced with a cybernics. You're downselling a little bit of it. It was broken. You're not wrong. If I throw something into the crushing machine, the car crushing machine, that thing is now broken.

You're not wrong. Again, technically correct. Yeah, that thing is broken. You can split hairs if you want. You have a few left. Luxurious. For those who aren't aware in our Discord, if you look for it,

there's a picture of Brad graduating, high school with a mullet, two comments. One, it's a glorious mullet. Two, it is shot from why I assume it's the ground because Brad looks quite tall. I'm deceptively tall. Yeah. So, sorry, I'm just shit talking you now. Just don't need to be.

I also said in Discord that I wear normal people clothes now and that is still not true. It's still not true, but it prefers what you used to wear. Oh, no, I just were tense. Yeah, it was like, yeah. They just don't make clothes. Yeah. It's like, I don't know. I bought two.

shirts and sewed them together. Yeah, I got three feet tall and six feet one. Yeah, I bought two smalls. Perfect. Exactly. Nailed it. We'll be right back after a quick break. So Garrow, there's a problem with Garrow.

And Typhus decides to solve the problem with Garrow by shoving him on a frigate called the Eyes and the Stein. And the reason Typhus does this is number one, he needs Garrow off of terminus. asked his main battleship, which, by the way, he should know, he should have shot him in the head. But we'll skip that. This is, yeah, the eyes and Stein. This is Bond level.

Don't kill the guy, Bond. Yeah. They could have just. Why? It's Dr. Evil. Yeah. I mean, well, I'm saying, but in Dr. Evil, they address it. They go, I'll just shoot him right now.

It's got this tank with sharks with lasers. I got a gun. We can shoot him right now. That's not how we do this, Scott. It's like, I'll go to my room right now. Yeah. I'll shoot him. We'll go down.

We can shoot him together with the bonding experience. Yeah. So he comes up with, unfortunately, an overly elaborate plan. Yeah, so here's how this actually goes down. So, all right, so Typhus's plan is good. Typhus's plan is I'll put Garrow, because Mortarians said I can't, not to kill Garrow unless I have to. So I'm going to put Garrow on this ship the Eisenstein, which is full of virus eater bombs. They're going to shoot at his fun.

in command of the Eisenstein is Grulgore, who is already committed to Nurgle. We're going to give his full name because no one has the, oh, that guy turned to evil. Ignatius Grulgore, basically his mom went,

he'll be a villain. I will name him Ignatius. I'm just saying, there's never been a guy that's been the hero of the story that was named Ignatius Grugar. I am sure there's some like Russian short story that's like,

Like, or wherever the name Ignatius comes from. I live in Ohio. You know what we have? Yeah, in Ohio. That's a bad guy. Ignatius is a very good name for a Russian mobster in a movie. Yes. That's fine.

And I'm, by the way, keep taking Ignatius. I realize, as I'm saying, Ignatius is a Latin name. But anyway, and not Cyrilic. So, sorry, guys, just caught myself, not editing that out. But so the typist's plan is that Ignatius Grulgor will just kind of let Garrow see him doing the thing he's going to be doing. and then kill and kill. Yeah, he's basically like, I'm going to push this button

that's going to shoot these things. Would you like to do something about it? Unfortunately, Grulgur is an idiot. So we'll, but we're going to. In the Dr. Evil plant? He's a complete, well, Grulgore is also a moron because he does something really stupid.

We'll get to him in a second. Back on another ship, though, which is called the Andronicus, which is a battleship for the emperor's children, where Saul Tarvitz is there. Now, why Sol Tarvitz is much, like Garrow is someone who probably should have been sent down to the planet, but wasn't. Tarvitz, he's, this is emperor's children.

So this is Folgram. All glory all the time. All glory all the time. And Tarvitz is. By the way, before they were corrupted. Oh, yeah. This is well before they're corrupt. They all, before they even had Folgram come back in.

These guys had a penchant for like, I want glory. Personal, not just glory, personal. Yeah. The head, the Lord Command. of this ship is a guy by the name of idalon idlon idlon is one of like if we talk about people who want glory for themselves idlon is at an 11 on this and the thing is is that idelon just goes hey guys i won't be joining this glorious fight and immediately saw it yeah something's going yeah what do you mean exactly like no like there's zero chance this guy would punch two guys because this this is fun fight

is not only is it a glorious, but also an easy, glorious fight. There's no reason for idolin. And only glory. Yeah. Why would not be there? So Tarvitz just starts sneaking around the ship, which I'm just going to be candid. Of the course of this episode, you're going to hear me talk a lot of crap on space marine sneaking. And it's mostly because I find the concept of a sneaking space marine.

Very, very sneaky. Yeah. I am just because I keep thinking of it's a cartoon, like a cartoon character, like tiptoeing and high behind a column that they're three times the width of. I'm going to be honest, I view every space marine as John Cena. That's just how I view every space marine is looking. Sorry, I just do. Although, Sina's too short.

But anyway, so he sneaks here on the Andronicus, and he pretty quickly uncovers what's really going on and decides that he needs to do something about it. He also discovers that Horace has blacked out all communication from the fleet in orbit down to Istvan. So all of the people down in Istvon fighting can only communicate with each other. They cannot communicate back up to the fleet. So he does the only thing that you can do, which is he grabs a Thunderhawk,

which are not a small ship, by the way. Also not supposed to be Yolo Solo Flo. Yeah. So he grabs one. But he grabbed like the, oh no, he didn't grab anybody. It was just him. You're right. It's just him.

The one of the two people. This is probably... It just rolls out. And jumps out of the ship down towards the planet. All right. I got to admit. This is very brave and very stupid. Well, stupid.

The idea is stupid or the writing stupid? It's a little bit of both. Both? All right. Let's party. I'm just, it's heroic. But also, you just took a small but large enough to be easily targeted ship. Yeah.

It's a... And when I'm going to go warn everybody when there's a entire orbit full of warships that could shoot you down in a moment. I haven't checked out, but the last time I saw Thunderhawks are more than 2,000 points. Yeah. Like they're mass. I don't think it's still only more. They used to sell Thunderhocks.

It depends on me. Thunderhawks only 700 or something. You can bring a Thunderhawk, but you can't bring the big thing. What was the, oh, I thought the big thing was the Thunder Hawk. Yeah. But the Thunderhawk, the biggest thing about this is it's not a, it's not a fighter. How about that? Yeah, the Thunder Hawk has guns. Yeah.

You can weave and dodge. A Thunder Hawk, a Thunder Hawk, a large transport vessel. Exactly. So he shoots out and starts heading down towards Istvon. In order to get to Istvon, he has to go past the Eisenstein, though. Yep. Now, we're going to jump back to what I said earlier, Grulgore is an idiot. Grulgur, with Garrow on the bridge, suddenly says,

I have to go do a thing and leaves the bridge with all of his retune to go arm the virus bombs. The thing about doing that is that Garrow is the second highest ranked officer on the bridge. So the second Grulgar leaves the bridge, Garrow is now in charge of the Eisenstein. He's on the bridge when Tarvitz's ship comes by. As it comes by, the Andronicus, which is the ship that Tarvitz just left from, tells the Eisenstein to destroy it because apparently the Andronicus, which is a battleship, doesn't have any guns on it. Yeah, this makes no sense.

They say, hey, you get it. Now, that flip side is Garrow and Tarvitz were friends. Yeah. I mean, him and Saul are just, are boy. Very close. Well, they've been in front line together innumerable times at this point. So Tarvitz radios Garrow and tells him, you know, hey, let me, you know, let me pass. Like, this is what's going on.

And he just tells Garrow the truth, which is Horace has betrayed the emperor. They're about to kill all of our brothers on the planet side. I'm going down there to save them. Please don't, you know, like let me go. And Garrow has to make a pretty quick decision here, and he decides friendship. But he also does, this is a smart move, though, because he fires on it. Is it? Fires on it.

You, we, oh, that's right. I'm about this shit on this heart. All right, let's party. So what Garrow does now is he says, no problem. And he opens fire just behind the, the Thunder Hall. Oh, no, I missed. No, he doesn't say I missed. That's the thing.

He then tells the Andronicus that he, that no problem. I blew up the Thunderhawk, because the Andronicus has no guns and apparently no sensors. Well, that part I don't like. I like the idea. Okay, rewind. I like the idea. He shouldn't have said he blew it up. I like the idea of him firing and missing.

Oh, I love the idea of doing that. But the problem is that I'm just confused why a battleship can't keep track of a Thunderhawk. Well, also the fact that one guy could be like, there's, he's right there. Yeah, I can see him. Like, he's flying down there. And someone else said, I totally shot him. And they were saying, you totally missed. I mean, he's again right there.

No, I didn't. Like, he's right there. Also, by the, like, just for you all, and when Brad said, he's right there, Brad was pointing on a podcast. Does this all the time. I was saying, this is different than, like, I just, anyway.

Which again, we really need to go live a game sometime. So, Gero, after getting told him from talking, Now says, hey, where did Grulgore go? So he grabs, and this is literally in the book, three dudes and leaves the bridge to go down to the bombing bay to find out what's going on. They get in there, and I give Grulgar credit. They catch Grulgur arming virus bombs. And he, oh.

Gros puts no urban to, oh, what do you mean is the question? Grover is, yeah, I'm going to kill all of them. He goes, I'm arming the virus bombs to kill everyone. And just what? Like, literally, what? What are you going to do about it? Yeah. John Heavy sigh for what happens next.

They then begin a fight in the bombing bay where they're shooting at each other. And I'm not joking about what happens next. A bullet is fired. It ricochets, ricochets off of someone, and hits one of the virus bombs, which makes it detonate.

Now, I understand. not everyone. I have, and I'm not, I'm a military background, but I understand the basics of how a bomb works. It's not contact. Bombs don't work by, they don't have a little bit on the front that you touch, and the bomb explodes.

Technology is, like, went a little bit backwards. I don't think that's how landmines work, and I believe that's it. I mean, that's how it works if you pack gunpowder into the top of them. Even then,

it doesn't have a point that moves in. So a ricocheting bolt on fire. Yeah, hit the tip of a virus bomb. And the virus bomb went. With its wick. Yeah, with its whirred down. Yeah. And then the virus bomb detonated.

Sorry, it's just dumb. Oh, but don't worry. We're not dumb with this. I mean, team reference, it's fine. Don't worry, we're not done with this. Garrow and their crew, when this ricochet happened, we're just standing next to the airlock. So one of the three people with him

shoves the other ones through the airlock and then closes the door while he dies to the virus bomb. Anyway, this succeeds in killing Grulgor for now and all of his buddies. Garrow then runs back to the bridge and takes back control of the ship. Also, this should have wrecked the ship. We continue.

Yeah. The fun story about this is that he does this. There's still death guard all over the ship, by the way, who are all traders. But none of them are on the bridge, so sucks to be them. As he's trying to figure out what to do next, another Thunderhawk, it's actually the same Thunderhawk, is coming back from the surface.

Because I have to give, it was Tarvitz, right? Tarvitz stayed on planet to fight the traders. He's a psycho. Yeah, Yachton Cruz, which is spelled Q-R-U-Z-E, so I'm not mispronouncing it this time like we did with Conrad. I call him Cruz. Still doing it.

I'm never changing. I want everybody. I read that in my mind as that for more than a decade now, never changed. Yeah. So Yachton plus a few others are now on a hundreder hall

coming back up and they're telling Garrow, hey, we got to get out of here. We've got all the evidence we need. Oh, they're doing the whole idiot. It jones. Start the engine shot. Start the engine. Yeah.

Go. Go. Shit is going down. And they come back off, crash land into the Eisenstein effect. I don't think they land. They drive their ship into the Eisenstein. Yeah, into the Eisenstein and jump out. In the general location of the landing bay, the docking bay.

And Garrow just starts turning the Eisenstein to go jump back towards terror. As the Eisenstein begins to move, apparently all of this stuff, because no one has sensors is completely amiss to the entirety of the traitor fleet, including typhus, who's sitting on top, who's sitting on Terminus Est, who sees none of the Thunderhawks do anything. I'm going to give this, they give it the Dr. Evil moments, but I do think that he is wildly overconfident because this is their moment. They're doing the Darth Mall.

We're finally going to reveal ourselves to the Jedi. We'll finally have our event. You have radar. There's a dude watching radar. Sure. But I'm just saying there, I, it only makes sense if you. Or is the space balls that got jammed. It did get, right?

To make an old people reference. Has an old people reference, but it's still a good movie. It's actually not, but it's very funny. But, uh, they're going to go to Plaid, but the biggest thing about that is I think that in my in how I read it to make, to make, and I, have it make some sense. Yeah. I feel in a lot of gaps with this. But in my mind, they really have.

that overconfidence of this is the day that we make our move we we move on with all of our plans yeah and i think that he kind of thought that obviously everything's going to go because i'm a bad guy oh because was he was he monologing on the bridge that was that was monologing he's just monologing on the bridge so as it begins to move typhus realizes that he hasn't heard from rule gore in a while and that's kind of weird so he begins calling the Eisenstein, and Garrow lets it go to voicemail. Garrow should have definitely done the Star Wars. Hello? Yeah, no problem here.

Yeah, exactly. Reactor leak. Yeah, well, I got to go. So Garrow, because what Garrow does is, actually, to be fair, we're crap on his love. What Caro really does is he does radio out, that there's an issue with his reactor. And the rule in the space Marines is if you have an issue with your reactor, you're supposed to pull away from the fleet. So you don't below yourself up. So he raised up.

Tiphis is kind of like, was that Garrow? Like, why wasn't that Grulgar? And then so he then calls down. Also it just goes, you should have probably had anyone but you. Yeah. I stand next to you.

Yeah. All the time. I definitely know your shitty voice. Yeah. And so Grulgore, so without Grulgar be there, Typhus knows something's up and he just turns that. So he begins to go after the Eisenstein. And again.

And it opens fire. We have to go into this again. The Eisenstein, beep, I'm making so many hand gestures right now. Yeah, Brad is literally, the only way this he could be, you guys be missing out more on this is if Brad actually knew sign language and was just doing that way now instead of speaking. What I'm trying to get with, I'm showing different sizes. I think he's about the hold of a Dr. Pepper for size. That's about to happen, guys. A Dr. Pepper.

That was going to be, for those of you who are not, who are not, who are internationally going, Americans have a weird measurement system. We're about to get a Dr. Pepper versus, I don't know what, a medicine ball. Is that what we were going to do over here? Which is fairly accurate, by the way. No one knows how big the table is. They probably are aware of a Dr. Pepper. So all of the state is Dr. Pepper can versus a table is about the difference in the size.

And the terminus says versus the Eisenstein. It's a battleship versus maybe a frigate. For those of you not in the U.S., Dr. Pepper is a soda we drink here. Brad's forgotten that it's not even an international soda that he's drinking. You want to do a Fago next? Make this even more, make this even more reasonable. I was trying to think of a different, I'm just going to say pop, and I'm going to choose a local. Pop.

Did you just use the word pop? I said, I'm going to use the word pop. You understand pop is that. even less local. That's what I'm saying. It's super local. God. This is what happens. This is what happened to record in the Midwest. They don't understand there's other parts of the world. It's scary. I got a map. Exactly. There be there be dragons. Anyway, to Brad's point, I'm going to make it a little bit easier. The Eisenstein is a small craft. It's a frigate. It's about it's less. I said battleship versus frigate in the end. It's maybe a tenth the size of the Terminus Est.

And it has, it has armor and shields, but not for a battleship, which as we've discovered, bell ships have crappy radar, but apparently at least the Terminus Est, unlike the Andromicus has guns on it. And they just... All of the guns. Yeah. Oh, Typhus is not taking a risk. They drop bows on it.

Yeah. And the ship just gets wrecked. Funny story. There are a bunch of death guard on Eisenstein who have no... idea any of the stuff's happening and now just start getting shot at but the in the result of the bombardment all the astropaths die all but one navigator dies and the shields are are about to fail at this point garrot does you know because what garrot does which is hero stuff and he just tells the remaining navigator put us into the warp it where he goes i don't care basically it doesn't matter anywhere you send us is still better than where we're right yeah

are right now. Get me into the war. Which he's not wrong. This is, this is, if this goes on for six more seconds. Yeah, this is hero stuff, what he does here. It is fantastic. And they do. They jump in into the, into the immaterial. Problem though is that the shields were irreparably damaged, which apparently shares the same generator as the Geller Field. So they enter the Imperium are trash. They enter the warp with no Geller Field. And, Nergel is very aware of them and instantly start re so the first thing.

So Grulgor has a rough run by the way. So Grulgur has just been consumed by a life eater virus. Probably not the best way to die. Not a great way to die. Nergel looks at him and goes, yeah, that one. Nergel converts Grulgur into the first ever plague Marie. He resurrects him. The best part is he doesn't resurrect him as grugor.

he resurrects him as a plague-infested marine. You're like, you could have just made me come back. You're like, nah. Nurgel doesn't play it like that. So then Nurgel also then begins reanimating the corpses of all their trailer space marines on the ship. Oddly, like, it's, they write it in the way that it's not entirely clear. Are they all plague marines?

Are they zombies? I got a little bit lost on that. I think everybody, this is again, my reading it. Please. I think Grugur is the only plague rain and everybody else is just a zombie. Because the reason I say this is that Garo and friends dispatch these guys like that. Yeah, except for Grulgor. That's my point. Exactly.

So is that I think that these guys were slow moving. They're slower moving. They're just the reanimated corpses of Marines without all the power Marines. Because in the books, they snuff these guys out. Sort of. because they pop right back up. But I'm saying. Oh,

yeah, you're right. Yeah, they do drop them. So, because they come to the bridge. Garrow. And they go,

oh shit. And drop them. Yeah. Garrow, there's like only a few. Garretz, Garrow, like,

again, like three or five guys are just, are just picking these guys off as they come through. And, but eventually Grulgor gets onto the bridge too. As there, because Nergel's there. As they're killing these space,

these and these zombies, they're dropping, coming back up. literally Garrow, they're running out of bullets. And it all comes down to Garrow. And actually, I forget the name of the guy, but he'll come up in a minute in the later part of the notes. Grulgor actually stabs one of the space marines with his playing knife and against converting him. At which point, Garrow realizes they have to get out of the warp now.

They're just not going to win. Well, because he realizes that that's where the power is coming from. Right. He has unlimited ability to screw with us. Exactly. So we've never covered this. before, but getting in and out of the warp, and we're going to do a cast on warp travel, is not an easy path. It's slow. There's a care. You have to move your, it's not like you press a button and you can press a button and going out of the warp. Yeah, but the navigators just die off. Yeah.

And so doing this, they drop out of the warp, back into the materium, and their navigator, just this just melts his brain, he falls down. It just dies. But the flip side, all of Nurgles' power also disappears. And you've got... We're not... In the war. Yeah. And the problem with being a plague marine, in the case of Garrow or a zombie, is that when you, your body's made up of warp energy and now there's no warp energy, you're not much. And Garrow just easily just kills Gros. Karate kicks these guys in the face.

And all the guys. So now the good news is all of the enemies on the ship are dead. The bad news is that the ship is now adrift. It's hundreds of light years from terror. Well, they're not 100% even where they are at this point in time. Yeah, they're in the middle. I mean, it's the whole galaxy of nowhere. They're nowhere.

The entire galaxy is in the middle of nowhere. Right. But, yeah, they're not near Earth. Let's put it that way. They've got no navigator, no astropath. And so they can't even call for help. What? Continue.

Yeah. The worst part, though, is that the ship's also too damaged even for an FTL journey. So Garrow is just stuck. But, again, Garrow's pretty good at his stuff. So what's Garrow do? He decides, I'm just going to make a beacon. So he overloads the warp driving. This is also a crazy plan.

Because if no one sees this, then he just slowly dies. What's going to do that anyway. The problem is his options were to jump back into the warp, which that didn't go well last time with no navigator. Well, no navigator and no Gellonfield. Yeah. So just like, hey man, we should just wander in hell and see how it works out for us. Yeah.

See, oh man, what is that? What's the movie? Event Horizon. Yeah. See Event Horizon. I mean, if you play BJ3, they also do this with the ship in hell at the beginning of the game. Oh, yeah, you're right.

That part I played. Yeah. I got through the first act and then playing different. They legitimately go, we need to go, where should we go? Anywhere but here? This place sucks. Yeah.

Like, pull the thing. Do I know how to run the ship? No, but it will still make it go. Not here. So they expel the warp drive. It overloads and it just explodes, creating a massive flash that the entire galaxy can see. And if you followed some of our earlier casts,

you can also see from outside of the galaxy. So a certain race outside of the galaxy likely saw this flash. It works. Rogal Dorn is wandering around. And as he wants to do. Yeah. Well, he comes to the rescue. Like he always does.

Yay. Because he always does. It's true. If you're in a pickle, Brad, you know, he rely on good old Rogel Dorn. He will pick you up and immediately place you in prison, which is exactly what Rokold Dorn does. He's so much. Rogel Dorn picks up the truth.

Literally could have helped so much after this heroic journey, Rogel Dorn's stupid ass shows up. And you're like. Rogel, here's all the things that happen. Let me tell you the warning I'm giving. You can help the Imperium. And Rogel goes, I suck. And I like to continue sucking.

Might not be the exact dialogue in the book, but this is what I read. Yeah. What he does is Rogel immediately imprisons all of them and blows up the Eisenstein. But he does take them all towards Seoul, then stops just outside of Soul. and shoves the three or five prisoners, I forget how many it was, in the Sisters of Silence's Citadel. God, I hate him so much.

It's all right. Not like Araba's hate, but he's 20th on my list of primarks out of 18. Well, there's 20. You just... Yeah, the two guys that are redacted, I still think, are better because they didn't do anything. Really? You like him more than Lurgar?

Actually, I don't count Lourgas. But finally, he's fine. He's 19. On the list of joy. I see, like, Lorgar is just, there's no purpose. I mean, he's... Do you want a primark who gets beat up in hand-to-hand combat? I joke about Roga, Rogaldoran, and he does do a...

He does a bunch of dumb shit, which is why I don't like it. Yeah. But he is super powerful and heroic. Yeah. Lorgar is... Lourgars loses every fist fight. Like, I'm surprised... I don't even know if he's a prime. He's just some guy. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if Rogue...

If Lurgar... met one of like the Phoenix lords. I'm pretty sure I think he would just beat him up. Oh, like laugh. Yeah. He sucked. He's terrible. So,

so I mean, again, for everybody in those of the Imperial Fis, I, I will continue to shit on him because I hate his storylines. He's a bad dude. Yeah, but he's awesome.

Yeah. Like, when Rogel has to fight, it's like, he wrecks shop. Yeah. Every, every fight Rogel Dorn gets in has,

like, has music behind it. It's just, there's always boss. Oh, we're doing this. Okay. I give shit about it, but like he's a bad dude.

It just makes these books are the reason I don't like Rubel Doran because you're just like, dude, seriously, just listen for five seconds and we can help shit out. We'll be right back after a quick break. What ends up happening next, though, is one of the guys, as we mentioned, that was part of Garrow's crew, got stabbed by Grulgar. and he's just struggling and in massive amounts of pain. And the sisters of silence or- And no one notices this, by the way.

Well, they do. They just don't care. The problem is that he's in a prison. He's in a Sisters of Silence of Prison. And apparently it's not strong of to keep Nergel out. So he eventually just embraces Nurgel. Of course he does. And Nergel turns him into.

Yeah, turns him into. Oh, yeah, like, hey, man, you know what happens when I let flies slowly eat my body while replacing it with acid? For puss, you know what I mean? Yeah, for some reason, things, things don't go well. Yeah. So he then goes, this guy converts over to a demon who actually comes up a couple times, ends up getting resurrected throughout the heresy, blah, blah, blah.

Like five times, actually. Yeah, I don't, I just find the story is good. But he kills two other Astardis. Actually, I think he might kill a couple sisters and then goes on to rampage the Citadel. Garrow sees it, apparently gets, is able to pursue him. Garo Yolo solos this guy. Yeah. It's pretty awesome.

I'm scared of you. They actually run outside. This is actually cool. They run outside on Luna. So on the surface of Luna, Garrow kills this demon. Like, Ninja Warrior style. That's pretty cool.

Yeah. Garrow's awesome, by the way. Garrow is incredible. So this kind of, we're going to take a stop there. It's such a backflip into what we're doing right now. No, but it actually makes complete sense. The truth is, is that Garrow now is going to serve a much greater purpose.

for the emperor. True story. The way we're going to get that is that, before we get in the next bit, just a little reminder, up until the Horace heresy, the existence of chaos was known basically by the emperor, Malcador, and the custodes. I don't think anyone else...

There's... Like, obviously, Lourgar and Arabic... There's people that know about it, but there's no one officially knows about it. Yeah, the official... How about this? If you stood in front of the emperor, you wouldn't say that you know.

Yeah, the only people who officially could... who spoke about their existence were Malcador, the emperor, the custodes, and that woman whose name I'm forgetting that is guarding the gate to the hell. So because of this, the emperor never made a plan for what to do against the forces of chaos. He seemed to just rely on like, I'm just going to ban religion and hope this all works and self-down. He used his ostrich defense? Yeah. No, it's going to anything.

However, he had Malcador, and Malcador loves a plan, especially one that's sacrifice. thousands of people. Are you a team referencing twice in one cast? I love it when a plan comes together. I really did. Yeah. Go team. It was a lot of my challenge.

Once word reaches the emperor of Horace's rebellion, the emperor knows the truth that this is not a rebellion of Horace. This is chaos. Well, it's a rebellion led by chaos. Yeah. With pawns. Exactly. Now we decided to,

now play chess and here's the pieces. And here's the chaos pieces. Here's the Imperian pieces. Let's go. And the issue they have is especially what just happened on Luna, where you had someone turn into a demon this close to the soul, really jacks up some of their plans. So the emperor and Malcador, probably Valdoor, too, decide they have to make a choice. And the choice they go with is do not tell the Imperium the truth about chaos.

that's the well also they'd have to say we've been we knew about this the whole time we'd been lying about the whole time and it would it would splinter at this point in time it would for sure I also think the problem is that it also truthfully

chaos as we've said before is a lot like vampires you have to invite them in life in the Imperium is not great at this stage telling them that there's some great evil power out there we just invite more cultists so I actually agree with within that they this you should not just tell it's just how to get it that yeah in these terrible worlds you're like there's a an option that doesn't include this like i'll who is it you know i'm good yeah so malcador takes the lead here because if it was valdoor he probably would just stabbed everybody um twice just in case they were exactly and he gathers all the survivors of the eisenstein garo cruz kendall who's we'll deal with her another time and tells them that they're

They've got a plan. Which is why these guys are so much cool with the Rogel, because they knew that someone had information that was vital to the survival of the Imperium. Right. They're being told, the quote is, and I like this quote, the men and women of inquisitive nature, hunters who might seek the witch, the traitor, the mutant, and the Zeno. This is the formation of the Inquisition. It starts now.

And these are the original three founders. However, he then pulls Garrow aside and says, I actually have a special mission for you because he realizes Garrow may be the most loyal person in the imperial. Also, the thing about Garrow, and they don't go into this enough in the books, but I think one of the reasons, for me, again, this is me giving the Brad version of books. I feel that he already saw that what will eventually be the Ageus and everything else. I think that he already sees in, because you can remember that both Malkador and the emperor can see more into you than you can see into you. They can see you in your war penitone and everything else. I think that he had an innate resistance to chaos that they knew. That you could just see.

And they were like, okay, I'm going to choose you for this because I can already, I already know that you have. Yeah, you can do this. Exactly. Right. So this creates the Knights' errand. The first thing Malcador does is he changes Garrow's army. He takes off all a death guard from it, which is probably a good call, and puts on Malcador's Sigel, which is critical because Malcador's Sigel means Garrow can now go where Malcador could go. He now has, he can go anywhere, command anything. Which is huge. He's, he has a get out of jail, free car in the galaxy.

Yeah, and he has one of the most powerful sigils in the, in the, the galaxy. I can go anywhere, command anything doing. He's kind of in line with the custod now in that level of, you know, you're not doing injustice when you say what he does that. So I want to jump a little behind. Come on. You know, you son of a bitch, I'm in. That's what Garrow does. And you know that's what he does. Oh, Garrow. Yeah, it's fair. No, but I'm saying he just, he starts going around the galaxy in a montage grabbing people and they speed this up in the book, but that's what he's doing. He does a heist movie. Yeah, this is cool.

He gathers a team. The first thing that we have to kind of jump back into a little bit, we covered this on the Aramund cast was the Council of Nicaea. This went great, sorry. The Council of Nicaa, I'm just going to quick hit this for everybody. This is when the emperor brought everyone together and decided what to do about Sykers. And the Emperor decreed that we will no longer utilize Sykers anywhere. So all of this base.

By the way, no reason. No reasons given here at all, yeah. So all of the legions tell their, they don't kill their psychers, but they tell them you're not allowed to use the powers. And using your powers is viewed as a negative. The traitor legions decided not to follow this very hard. So right, the reason I bring this up is for the first place, Garrow goes, is to the world of Coulth, which is where the ultramarines are. The ultramarines were sent to Calth to deal with, I believe it was an orc invasion. And it was not.

It was a trap, and it's demons and word bears. Well, word bears who use the most demons. Yeah, exactly. Rubio is an incredibly powerful cycle within the ranks of the ultramarines, but he, again, doesn't use them. Garrow arrives, and this is why Garrow is a badass. Garrow arrives and tells Rubio, hey, Malcador has summoned you. You don't have to get out of here. And Rubio just says, no, I can't abandon my brothers.

So Garrow goes, all right. Cool, let's just fight. I'll fight with you. I will stand next to you. He also makes this decision instantly. Yeah, okay. Let's fight together, which is just awesomely badass. The reason this matters a lot more is during the battle,

the ultramarines get overwhelmed by the word bearers because they bring catafracting Terminators, which is what Abidon was. These things are nasty. These terminators, again, because this is back when he's just reading lore, terminators actually work. So as they're about to lose, as always, Rubio just unleashes a psychic torrent and collapses a tunnel on top of the Terminators because Dreadnought armor is not impervious to dirt. Well, it's impervious to damage. A lot of them didn't die.

They also weren't going anywhere. I guess that's fair. They could have been completely fine, except for the fact that they're never leaving. Yeah, the part of this I don't like is that Rubio at the end of it is like he feels ashamed of using his psychic powers and is like it is sad because some of the other ultramids give him a dirty look, which is just stupid. Anyway, he joins Garrow to become to now be his buddy on his buddy quest. Yeah, again, he's doing a heist. So he needs to gather his team. The next place Garrow goes, also I want to point something out because this is important.

We talked about this during the Horace Heresy that during the Horace Heresy, the warpstorms were insane and no one could go anywhere. Apparently Garrow had some special extra thing because he goes every one. He goes Calth, which is on the far side of the galaxy. Oh, he does this four times. Yeah, and then jumps, yeah. He does season eight game of throne style travel. And then just jumps. He just teleports every one.

All right. Now I'm back on Saul. Because back on Saul, a fleet of ships have arrived, which has, has a, which has a. single world eater named Varen and a bunch of white scars. I do love the fact that everybody turned to chaos and one guy was like, kind of think this is jacked up. Yeah. What are you guys doing?

Varon's the loyalist out of the group. So Garrow, Rubio, and some custodes board the ships. And they're kind of like going through it. The custodes, of course, are on team. Let's just stab all of them. that's that that that's their vote like you know we make fun of it they weren't wrong they were there was a nine nine percent correct there was one dude it would have been all by one yeah they would not have noticed there was a guy and that they were wrong about and suddenly the white scar traders do attack because

as we said their prior episode the white scars were actually a weird legion where the majority of them stayed loyal but a group of them did go traitor and they also duced out because the white scars all had warrior lodges. It's a goddamn good idea. It's a terrible idea. It doesn't work. Anyway, they attack, Varon jumps up and saves Geyer and Rubio,

and they all escape together. So now there are night errants. Trips. Yeah. You know, you just did a Brad. You didn't say the number. You're right. You showed the number to me.

There were night errands that held up a three. Thanks, Brad. There are now three nighterrants. Yes. Yeah, you're creating problems. All right. So the next one is actually a bit more interesting to me, not to brag, because it involves Rogel Dorr.

And they're stupid. You know what? I'm not going to say stupid. This thing's pretty awesome. This is cool. I wanted to talk shit about it, but the phalanx is objectively, wow. This thing's like a cruising death star. Yeah.

Well, it's a death star. So it's a star fortress called the phalanx that the imperial fists have. Garrow is sent there in secrets. He sneaks on to. it again, sneaks on to a imperial fist ship. Obie Wands onto the dust star to turn off the tractor beams. Thank you very much. The greatest fortress building Legion in the entire galaxy. I feel like I just said,

the best offenders. Obi-Wan turned off the tractor beam. That's all I'm saying. On this, Rogel Dorn has imprisoned all of the psychers of his entire Legion. And there's one guy named- stupid shit. How that guy is, It's so tough. It's so dumb. I'm going to disagree with you here. I'll get to that story to why in a second.

Massick is one of the, is one such that he's, that Garo's been sent to go grab. So Garrow sneaks around the ship and eventually gets to Massac and says, hey, you've been summoned by Malcador. We need to go. And Massick says, no. Like, I'm loyal to my prime mark told me I'm staying here.

I'm staying here. And Rogel Dorn arrives and, and looks at Garrow and just says, all right. Come here, you, and brings him to the office for a stern talking to. A couple of things I like about this story. He does at least reference the fact that didn't I leave you in a prison? Well, two things. One, I do like that upon seeing Rogel,

because Massick hasn't seen Rogel in like hundreds of years, says, like, Primark or something like that, sir, how goes the Great Crusade? And Rogel's responses, it has been. become complicated, which I do. I like that line. I mean, he's not wrong. Yeah, I like that line a lot. There's a really good line of like, it has become complicated. I mean, and the thing is, is, okay,

Rogel's not being a complete ass. Yeah. Because I don't like the way he's going about it. You've made that clear. But he is and he could have told these guys, which he does not. Nope.

He wants to keep his psychers ready for the battle so they're uncorrupted by the time the big battle comes. He knew. Rogel knew the psychers. There was a danger with the psychers. And so he figured, I'm going to shelter them away.

And when we need them, they will be here. I'm not going to lose. Which he could have mentioned to any of them, by the way. Look, Rogel likes his dad. Jesus. Hey, man, you know what I'd be cool is if I wasn't just sequestered in a cell for it, to me, no reason whatsoever. So anyway, long start story, no Mastnick, but kind of a cool story.

The next one, as we just mentioned, you know, no warp travel for everyone else, but Garrow goes from Saul to Istvon 3. So he now is going to warp behind Horace to a planet he left to go pick a dude up. Again, heist movie, Assembly is crew. By the way, this is also awesome, because this is a bullsy maneuver, because as a At this point, they know that chaos has corrupted them. Chaos is the most power in the warp. Let's just make a long warp jump.

Yeah. And just figure it out. Yeah. So Garo and Rubio arrive on Istvon 3. And they actually find some survivors, some human survivors who somehow was survived the virus and the bombing and blah, blah, and a full-blown assault by traitor Marines. And Garra and Rubio are told by these survivors that there's,

is this evil beast, which is attacking them. A little bit later, they see a beast from a distance, and realize the beast isn't a startings. And Garrow and Rubio engaged the beast, and it runs away after it killed some of the humans. When they look down, though, Garrow recognizes some of the humans that the beast killed have the mark of Nergal on them. And they then, of course, immediately rise up because GW writing, and Garrow and Rubio have to fight these zombies.

At which point, the beast arrives and kills the zombies again. Who's the beast? Loken. That's right. Garville Loken. Garville Loken. Yeah. Garbo Loken.

Ler Wolf. Yeah. And Loken, Garo speaks to him and actually brings him Goroa Loken back to, like, sanity, effectively. And now we've added another nightmare. Well, he isn't a nightmare until he shows up. Yeah. He's just killing zombies nonstop every day in a disshattered world. They then jump back to Seoul and go, all right, now this time we're going to go to Caliban.

Can we skip this part? No, because it's, it's, we need this. You're going to, you're going to harp so much on this. We know, because we, I'm using it to introduce somebody. So apparently at this stage, Garrow's plot armor was too heavy. So they had to let Garville Loken and Yakton Cruz do this trip. So their goal, they were sent by Malcolord to determine if the door, Dark Angels were loyal or traitor.

And when they get there, there's this guy there named Luther, who's just a guy. That's all he is. Damn it. If you don't get that reference goes in the Dark Angels cast as I went off on Luther. Luther is not chaos this point, but he's still very anti-Lion. And he doesn't even know what's going on. So he then captures... He's already been banished at this point.

Yeah, but he hasn't turned to chaos yet. I mean, he has. I know. I agree with you. but in the books he has it. Yeah, I was just so safe. So Luther's trying to figure out what's going on. So he caps.

Luther captures Loken and starts interrogating him. But what he doesn't know is that Loken, because he's so good, is attracting the attention of the Watchers in the Dark. So while Loken is imprisoned, the Watchers of the Dark free him. And he reunites with Cruz to make their escape. As they're making their escape, the Dark, he gets charged. trapped by the dark angels. The whole reason telling the story is because something else happens that's setting up a future cast for us.

They then were aided in an escape against, because they killed one of the dark angels to escape by what I consider one of the, the worst lore to tabletop model. Because I can't think of a time that the Cipher model has been of any value in the tabletop, but I love Cipher in the lore. Sefer, the lore is amazing. That's the thing. Third edition, he was, now he was still terrible. Because you could only lead him in certain armies.

Yeah. I forgot about that part. Yeah. Cipher has never been, Zyfer has been useless in the tabletop forever, and he's so important in the lore. So Cipher, the reason I like Cipher. He's been to the throne.

Yeah, and the reason I love Cypher, Seifer helps them escape, gets them to the surface, and as they're about to go, Garrow says to Cipher, come join us, be a knight errand with us. And Cipher says, I'm going to protect the Imperium in my own way.

And goes off. And that is exactly. exactly what Cypher does. I'm assuming he also put the cloak. Put the cloak on. And for those who don't know who Cypher is, Cipher is one of the most unfulfilling but amazing characters in all of the lore, because he just randomly pops up in these critical moments to do really cool stuff.

He's also a neutral Jedi, basically. Yeah, he is, Cyphers awesome, and there's been multiple ciphers, potentially. That's the other piece, too. We don't know the site. So I did the whole story just so I can say the word cipher. Now the night errands go all over the place. They go to Mars and fight the Dark Mechanicum. They recruit a bunch of more members.

My favorite one of all of their stories that they have in this, because they just completely useless, is they go to Ball while Sanguineus is fighting, you know, with, I guess, Cobbaden, and tell everyone at Ball that Sanguineus and their Legion have fallen to a demonic invasion. so you guys need to come with us back to Seoul, to which the blood angels almost murder them

because how dare you say that, just in time for Sanguinius to call and say, hey, guys, good news, we had a big fight, but we're good, we're on our way back. It's a useless story. Yeah, and I hate it. But it does push the fact that why they got so affected by his death

because San Guineas was a boss. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I mean, Sanguarius was a big deal. But I just, that whole story, I was like, why are we doing this? Like them going, abandoned your prime act. They went, you must be crazy. Yeah, not that you're going to be.

We will murder you. Yeah. If you tell us to do this one more time. Like that, we're done. Just don't put that idea out there. We'll just cut you down. Yeah. The next one that that they did, and we covered this a bit before with Lehman

Russ stabbing Horace. But before we did that, before that happened, they decided to go and try and kill, well, it was a two-part mission to go and kill Horace. So the night Aaron's decided. they know that there's an attack on mulloch that horace is part of and they have a two-part mission one go kill horace but two mark the way to horace so that we can if it doesn't work we can go kill horace later now the reason i'm going to do this story real quick is because uh i have to talk some shit and the story was terribly written so i'm going to talk about more sneaky space seren's

I'm going to talk about, so the plan here is for 10 space marines who are night errants. Some of them are a great terminator. You're right terminator. Yeah. To board the vengeful spirit. Horace's flagship. So Horace boys, the flagship of the Trader Legions and sneak in and kill Horace. So how do they do this?

Well, simple, Brad. They have a stealth vessel. I don't know what that means. I genuinely don't know what that means. They have a stealth vessel. Oh, okay, problem solved. So that's how that works, apparently. Yeah, don't worry.

This stealth vessel gets stealthier and worse. So they do successfully, thanks to their stealth vessel, sneak on to the most important ship of all of the Trader Legions. Shit goes bad. Oh, yeah. They make it like three, they make it like three like door locks in and go like, oh, now we're under attack.

Yeah, like instantly everything goes awry. Yeah, and they just start getting wrecked. And like four of them just die before they get captured and brought in front of Horace. What saves them is that Garville Loken is here. And Garville was a- He is one of the favorites of Horace. Yeah. Garville, again, Loken was a little wolf,

which is Horace. chapter. You know what I mean? And they were friends. Horace and Garville were friends. Well, he's part of the Mortiful. Exactly. Which is his inner circle. Also the beginning of the warrior.

But the thing about Horace, and Horace has a real reason to think this. Horace, again, has a magic power to make people. This is not Mortarian here. We're talking about Horace. Horace. His biggest power. Every prime mark has a power of their go-to thing. And this isn't a chaos bar. This is his primac power. His primac power is to get others to just agree with him.

He legitimately has a magic power to do that. So he is pretty goddamn confident that he's going to make him see his way. Yeah, it doesn't. But this fight makes it. I mean, I say fight, it's a not, not a thing. An argument breaks out between. I was just saying there was not a fight. Horace would have Hobba.

But Garville and Horace start kind of just verbally getting into it where Garville is, you know, yelling at him. This creates a distraction and the other night errands on the ship are able to escape their captors. Now, I recognize how stupid that sounds. Don't worry, it's about to get stupider. Because the aforementioned stealth ship has now moved our. around the ship. And there are windows that look out into space

because that's what you need in a spaceship. And the stealth ship blows out the windows with its guns. And then they fly out the windows. Yeah. And then everyone gets sucked out into space. And the stealth ship picks them up and transports them back to town. And they escape.

So, yeah. Heist style, baby. That actually hurt my soul to say it out loud. I mean, like, we're talking. talking about a stealth ship. So we, the, the traders are aware that they've been infiltrated. And no one went, hey, I wonder how they got there.

Let's go find that ship. The ship continues to be stealth. Has guns powerful enough to blow a hole in a battleship, by the way, or not a battle ship, they just, battleships apparently are built with flimsy windows. Is it just actually with a double pane glass we're working with here? That's, that's what we have. Single pain. Single pain.

Yeah. Yeah, we got single pane glass. That's all it is. Oh. So anyway, this mission's a pretty bad failure, sort of, except for... It's not, though. It ends up, so the mission itself is a failure, but the overall, the secondary missions is a success. Because this is how...

Secondary mission was a wild success. Yes, because this is how Lehman Rus gets onto the vengeful spirit, stabs Horace, which causes Horace to have to give up even more of his soul to chaos, which probably creates the hubris within Horace. No, because Chorus becomes... He went from constantly at conflict, but being Horace. Yeah. To being a puppet, which a puppet of Horace is actually wildly less powerful than Horace completely Horace would have been.

Well, in the end, Horace is what took him down. His turning off the shields to invite the emperor on. Inviting the emperor. That was, that's hubris. That would never have happened if he hadn't given more of his soul to chaos. So in that realm, it was a really. good move, but this mission didn't work. So the last mission that went on is a completely useless mission that they wrote into a book just to fill time, where they begin searching for

all the shards of Magnus around the universe. Two things on that. One, every shard they find, they fail to capture, every single one. And two, there was a shard just sitting on Earth the whole time that Malcador already had. This is why we were talking about this one, I said, well, if they did absolutely nothing, there would be no change. The only pause that they got out of this was it did give them, very long, story short, we'll cover it later. One of the first inquisitors actually came out of this

because there was a guy who got possessed by one of the shards of Magnus, then depossessed, thanks to Aramon, depossessing him. Not as a favor, by the way. He took the shards from him. And then it made... He didn't want to... He took the possession away because he didn't want to leave any pot. power behind. And this then created a guy who was immune to demonic possession.

Accidentally. Yeah, accidentally. All of this that we just described was going on to the backdrop the Horace heresy. Just before Horace enters Saul, demons and cultists start popping up all over Terra. And it was Erebus, because of course it was freaking Erebus. But the Knights Erant are now on Terra. And they're the one, they actually fight these demons back. At the end of these battles against them. Out of nowhere, Malcador arrives and says to everyone, come with me, you're going to go meet the emperor. And the emperor says something really critical. It's going to set up our next cast. The emperor tells them that, you know, that their part as knight-errant's, their part against Horace is concluded, which we'll get to one, some of the guys in a second.

He needs them to focus on the real enemy, which is the warp. They are going to, yeah, the warp. And so they are going to stand as the protection of humanity from destruction via the world. Use the line. Bullwork of humanity. They're going to become the bulwark of humanity. He specifically says that. Fine. The emperor tells, so he selects nine of them to go become these titans for humanity.

One of them, Garrow declines because Garrow says, yeah, there's no scenario. I'm not going to go fight horse. And these are all tellers. apported at this moment to a hidden moon base on Saturn to later become the Grey Nights. So that's why we did this whole cast guys, was we had to set up where the Grey Nights came from. Yeah. So that's today's cast.

On next cast, we'll dive into the Grey Nights themselves, their growth from heresy to modern times, equipment, key figures, all that stuff. But with that, it's been John Barthati and Bradchester. Disguide. See you next week.