The 40k Lorecast - Episode 59 - Adepta Sororitas pt 2 - The Creation of the orders and formation of the Sisters of Battle
Episode Date: November 4, 2024On Today’s cast we conclude our coverage on the Adeptus Sororitas. We start with a recap of the restricting of the Adeptus Sororitas after the death to Goge Vandire. From there we jump into what... a living saint is (kind of a daemon). Then we spend some happy fun times talking about the nightmare units of the sisters (penitent engines are just wrong. We then conclude by focusing on a few key characters of the Adeptus Sororitas. PatreonMerchandiseDiscord Link:Our WebsiteRetro RecallOur Sponsors:* Check out BetterHelp: https://www.betterhelp.com* Check out Pebl: https://hellopebl.com* Check out Pebl: https://hipebl.ai* Check out Shopify: https://shopify.com/loreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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So, on to the cast.
So let's dive back into the sisters.
So let's start with the structure of the Adeptus Sorotas.
Well, there was one person that was in just did all of this.
Yeah.
It's Sebastian.
Sebastian Thor.
So Sebastian Thor takes over the ecclesiarchy after Goj, Vandemian.
Yeah.
I mean, he was trashed.
I mean, that guy was.
That guy couldn't have died a bad.
The only reason that his death wasn't satisfying is he only died once.
Yeah.
Those Thor should have been penned and engine, which we'll get to a little bit.
So with the reformation of the ecclesiarchy, Sebastian's Thor, he shifted the sisters around.
So they went from being originally the personal bodyguard to the leader of the church,
which is what they were, to actually being the military arm for the Oriole Hereticus.
And the Orde Hereticus, for those of you who don't know what we're talking about,
it's the Inquisition.
So the Inquisition has multiple branches.
Well, it's the more than the rougher ones.
Well, it's the one that the average person has to worry about.
Yeah, well, that's true.
Yeah, if you're Ordo Malleus or Ordo Xenos.
Yeah.
Then if you're human, it's kind of.
You're just like, yeah, I've never even seen these guys.
And then the, you know.
You're going to see them really quickly.
And then you're going to stop existing.
Pereticus shows up and they go, I didn't like the way you ate that.
donut looked very chaos.
Yeah.
Were you savoring?
No.
We don't do that.
We don't savor.
We don't savor. Slanesh savers.
I will say I actually
like this move for the sororitas
because they're incredibly
fanatical and their love and worship
of the emperor.
There's not enough modifiers you could put on that.
They are
the sisters are the most
fanatical, period, hands down.
I don't care who.
Anybody that thinks
that one of their Marines or whatever is on a crusade?
Nope, sisters.
Wildly more.
The issue, though, for the Inquisition has been that the Inquisition are actually very small.
You've got Inquisitors, you've got this stuff, but it's not a large organization.
They don't have the ability to really wage war.
Technically, they have the ability, thanks to Imperial Decree, to go and seize, I mean, even space Marines.
I mean, they've got a little thing hanging around their neck.
Yeah, but they still have to go do it.
It's different going and mustering a force and correcting the course.
True. I mean, they have to grab stuff.
Yeah, because like if you're trying to, for example, if you want to, if I'm an inquisitor and I'm saying, oh, we have to go deal with this system is heretical, right?
I can go and get an astram regiment and all of this.
But there's a lot more process versus having something kind of like under your command.
You can just make a phone call to the sisters and go, hey, we're going here.
Yeah.
And to be fair, a lot of the times.
To be fair?
Yeah, to be, no.
Ordo Hereticus tends to deal with pretty large things.
Like an Ordo Xenos, they also do, but Ordomalius doesn't.
Ordomalus is usually wiping out a demonic incursion somewhere.
They also do small scales most of the time.
They're actually, if they're successful, they're always small scale because they're trying
to wipe things out before it gets started.
Exactly.
Ordo Xenos moves around a little bit, obviously.
But to be fair, Ordo Zinos is actually more likely going to involve other ordos when it gets
really bad.
Like, they can't single-hand works.
They almost never go anywhere.
Right.
By themselves.
But that's actually how they're structured.
Yeah.
Because they just grab yes and go places.
Whereas Ordo Hereticus, I mean,
Ordo Heretics are primarily dealing what they're supposed to be.
There's going to be some John Rance this episode, just deal with it.
Ordo Hereticus are doing a lot of stuff like planetary governors who've turned against
the emperor, planets that are in just full rebellion against the Imperium.
They also do, what annoys me is they also do chaos incursions.
demonic incursions and xenos invasions my problem with erreticus is they're supposed to be a scalpel
and they are often a hammer yeah because they what could be handled by an assassin is oftentimes
yeah and we're gonna get we'll get there in a little bit some of my complaints about the sisters
as we were writing the show notes for this some things came to a realization that were a bit of an
issue and uh we'll deal with that in a minute but for now let's just focus back on order of
So the order Hereticus really needed a powerful military force.
They could just, we were saying earlier, could be deployed without bureaucracy.
And the sisters are perfect.
They just, large organization, large military, and they send them out.
Now, I will say, I'm going to call this out now.
As we go through this cast, I am going to try and use the term adeptus sororitas
over and over again, not battle sisters.
I'm not at all.
I know.
And I'm doing this because technically,
technically the military branch of the,
or the Adeptus Sorotas are the battle sisters.
The rest of them.
True, but they were known forever as the sisters of battle.
That's how they got released and they will always be the same.
Also, I will never say Astra Militarium either.
Yeah, I'm only calling this out now because there are a lot of people out there
who really like sisters and I don't want them thinking that Brad and I are just ignorant about it.
We're just, it's just, we're drinking one.
wine in doing a podcast, so I'm going to get some stuff wrong. So just want to call it out now.
So for the record, I've gotten it right. And there's your pre-apology.
Another thing about the sororitas that I like is that they become a watchful eye for the
Ordo Hereticus, because we said in the last cast, they get deployed as doctors, nurses,
educators, advisors, and more. Any of you who played Rogue Trader the game on Steam, which I really
do recommend, the sister of battle there kind of, she exemplifies this a lot about her.
One of my favorite things about the sisters, though, is they do all this, but also they are supposed to still have a level of combat awareness, even though.
That's why. And this is why I'm saying this is such a cool move on their part, because, you know, if you think about it, like, the sister who's sitting there providing aid or, like, caring for the orphans can fight off a demonic invasion, not solo, but she's ready. So she's got a bolter with her.
Yeah.
She's administering shots.
You know, she's giving flu shots.
Yeah.
And also, she might kung fu you.
Yeah.
If problem arises, she'll do it.
And so when this ends up meaning for the auto hereticus is that you've got individual or small groups of sisters spread out throughout the entire galaxy.
I mean, they're just because they're, I mean, these are the most, they get the joy of the most loyal members of the imperial.
I was about to say, this is a big thing for the, it's where I know we're doing.
sisters, but this is such a win-win for the Inquisition.
Oh, it's huge for them.
Because you went, hey, I'm just going to drop off the most loyal people ever.
And go ahead and make sure things are going on.
And they're basically Inquisitor lights in the sense that, like, you know, they would just snuff out heresy.
If they see something, they're just going to remove it right there and save the inclusion of trouble.
There are probably millions of what would have been heretical incursions into the imping.
that don't happen because a single or small group of sisters are having to be present.
Because you talk shit in front of the librarian.
Yeah.
And then she ninjas.
Yeah.
She came up with three throwing knives and a bolter and shot you, it would kill you.
You went, oh, we were going to commit some heresy and now we're not.
Yeah, we're not.
Everyone who wouldn't commit heresy is currently attached to that wall.
Yeah.
Also, where did she bring out all of those knives?
Yeah.
And the bolter inventory.
What I do find interesting about the sisters being everywhere for the Inquisition is, I don't understand how large the sisters are.
They don't give a number, but also there's a-
The math here is- Doesn't work.
Yeah.
So the only number I found was at the end, when Sebastian Thorr reformed the ecclesiarchy, there were a little over 10,000 of them.
Yeah, but they're on almost every planet.
Yeah, not just every planet.
They're also, if you're on a hive world, they're in each hive.
Yeah, it's a crazy, and they're in there in force.
It's not like three girls are there.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And so this is like, we're talking about, so they're on every planet.
Then they're as advisors, medics, because it's not just one sister.
They're there, the planetary governor has a sister nearby.
It's a big thing.
All the nobles have a sister.
On the 40K board, the game, they have the different.
Yeah.
They have the different hospitalists,
I signify things of that nature.
But there's entire orders in the, in the lore that do this, that they're everywhere.
I mean, they're UN-ing it up.
Like, they're red crossing it.
I mean, I'm doing rough math here, but I'm pushing them into the, I mean, honestly,
I'm thinking hundreds of millions.
I think there's a billion.
Yeah.
And that's what just means they're pushing into astramalitarum.
Like, there's only...
They're just everywhere.
Yeah, there's less than a million.
space marines. They organize, when they come in for us. Is it 100,000 space marines? I think it's
it's a million. It's a million. It's a million space space months. So there are a, there's a minimum
thousand to one ratio of sisters to space marines. And it's probably bigger than that.
Because we're just talking about, so just to help you guys follow the math here.
There are close to, well over a million planets. There's a million worlds.
Million worlds. Over a million worlds. On those worlds, there's going to be numerous sisters on
each of those worlds because the sisters have to be the planetary governor.
You're going to say there's 75% of the worlds, which is probably more.
Yeah.
75% of the world's having a sister's.
I mean, dozens.
Minimum dozens.
It's so much more than that.
It's mostly hundreds of sisters per world plus on ships.
And then they've got their two bases.
They've got based on Terra and the base on Ophelia.
That doesn't include their, effectively, their strike forces.
And we'll talk about the orders.
Each order has its own force.
Exactly.
So there's an element where, like, again, this could just be classic GW math, where they're just like, oh, yeah, there's sisters everywhere.
And you're like, doesn't that mean there's more of them?
But, yeah, effectively, the sisters where the same power armor as a space marine carry the same weapons as a space marine, they're much easier to train and make, apparently, because we've got.
They should be dominant.
Yeah.
Come on.
Let's just, let's, why are we using space marines for anything?
Let's skip this.
Yeah.
Why are we not just going, hey, we, we, we.
only use sisters.
Yeah.
It actually makes sense.
You could wipe out, like,
we'll get to that in a little.
No,
let's do it now.
Right now we're talking about this at lunch.
This drives me nuts about the sisters.
So we're saying that there is,
basically as capable as a space marine.
You're going to make sisters fan sad right now.
I'm going to say something.
I have no,
I actually like sisters a lot.
My drives me nuts is there is capable as a space marine.
They're easier to make than a space marine.
There's so many more.
And from a lore standpoint.
They do absolutely.
nothing. Exactly. Like we've got, so you're telling me I've got a million space Marines and I've
got a billion sisters. And when the tyrannids or chaos or the Tao or the Eldar do something,
I don't just say, cool. I'm going to crap on Tao here. Don't think of the wrong way, guys.
But if I were to take 100 million sisters and launch them into the Tao space, bad news space,
it's over, right? Tyrannid Leviathan fleet is pressing down. Cool. How about on the left
We just put, again, 200 million sisters.
Wait for it, though.
John, would you say that's the east, west, north or south?
Left.
That's what it is.
It's the left side.
Well, stage left or my left?
Same.
I don't care.
But you could.
You could literally take the sisters.
If the math, and I know GW probably made a mistake here, but if the math is correct, you
could take the sisters, deploy them hard.
and actually basically re-center the galaxy.
They just don't push fronts is my biggest thing.
Because the Guard, Piro Guard is the rock that you take something, they keep something.
They retain it, everything.
The Marines are the poster boys.
They go out and they conquer.
They do things.
And then sisters just kind of are in the stories.
They got some cool-ass stories.
Don't get me wrong.
Oh, they have great stories.
But it is, it's interesting.
We were sitting at lunch talking about this, and I can't think of like a, like, if you read the Sisters Codex, there are campaigns, there are things that they've done.
Don't get me wrong.
But it's not like a giant battalion of sisters was sent somewhere and like turned around.
It's like in the Indominious Crusade, they were just part of the crusade.
Right.
In the 13th Black Crusade, they were, they assisted in the defensive Thadia.
But mathematically, they actually should have been able to turn that that around.
they should be pushing fronts i would like to see that actually in the lore me too because i would
like to see the sisters pushing fronts yeah this is more this is this is actually just brad and i
complaining about gw writing because we're like hey this could be awesome so anyway let's dive back
into creation of the orders is pretty badass this is we shit on them just a little bit because
we thought they could be more because they could be more this this this is where like that's why
i wouldn't do that little diatribe there because we're about to talk about how
how awesome the sisters are.
And I want to caveat with you,
they don't really use them correctly.
So the first,
so the orders are created by Alicia Domenica.
Why her name is Latin,
I have no idea,
I don't care at that.
Also super awesome,
because she is the sister
that went in front of the emperor.
He spoke to the emperor.
And then put on her boots
of mighty ass kicking.
Yep.
And went,
oh, I've been being,
I've been lied to.
Shit's about to go down.
And then she went on after that a pretty much a full-on creation.
I mean, she made with Sebastian.
They made the sisters what they are right now.
And so she takes over and she actually splits the order off.
She takes the order and she goes half the order goes on Terra.
And the other half the order goes to this plan called Ophelia 7.
Ophelia.
It's Ophalia.
That's all I know.
On Ophelia 7.
I don't like to like diving into Ophelia 7 too much.
but long story short
in Aphelia 7.
Affiliah 7 was one of the wealthiest
plants in the entire galaxy.
To be fair,
if you're going to choose a base of operation,
choosing Nabu
seems like a pretty good.
They chose the most boss mode planet.
It's the wealthiest planet in the galaxy.
And the ecclesiarchy had a long hold there.
So that's where they are.
It's effectively a pleasure world
without being a pleasure world.
Yeah, so this is funny because the sisters exist.
Their headquarters are on Terra, the most important planet in the galaxy,
and Ophelia, the most wealthy planet in the galaxy.
Although I would actually argue Mars might actually be more wealthy.
Yeah, but nobody wants to go there.
It's weird.
Mildly irradiated.
Yeah.
Also, everybody you meet there, you're like, oh, this is the most awkward thing I've ever done.
I'm going to get out of here.
And Ophelia 7 also is one of the main seats of the Ecclesiarchy, of course,
is where else would it be?
You know, so anyway, so she does that.
But the part that actually matters a lot more is she oversees the first order of the adeptus sororitas.
What she does is she decides to split it up, Gilliman's style, and say, all right.
She uses the Codex Astarnes as a template.
Yeah.
So now there is orders militant, orders hospitalier, orders familias, orders, familias, orders,
diologists, and a bunch of the minor orders.
This is done to kind of create the structure that we talked about last time,
The sisters, the idea is, to the I attributed earlier, the sisters are involved in everything
imperial.
It also, she knows that being involved in every level of imperial life means that you have the most
effect on people being loyal to the emperor.
And that's something that's said multiple times in why she does this, because it's not just
the fighting.
The fighting is the coolest.
The fighting's on the board.
It's a part we play the game.
but if you're not, if you're not playing the game,
this stuff's actually to be more interesting.
Well, it's,
it's more important because you are in the day-to-day life.
You also get to be, like, weird.
It's not even sleeper agents.
That's a bad term for it.
But like, yeah, I know what you mean, though.
You're just, you're just the lady that does this.
People will just accidentally.
Yeah, we talked by the last.
Be less guarding.
The sisters are a weird one because, like,
they're part of the Inquisition,
which everyone in the Imperium,
is terrified of, but everyone likes them because they tend,
because the most interaction of the sisters is then positive for you.
So they're really,
the sisters are really,
I hope no one thinks that I'm actually shitting on sisters.
I'm not.
I actually really like them.
Let's go into the GW.
Waste.
Let's go into the cooler part,
though.
Let's talk about the first militant order.
Yeah.
Eben Chalas,
which also got jacked in the book.
We're not even going to talk about that.
Yeah.
We're not going to talk about how horrible this thing is.
Yeah.
Wom Pwom.
But anyway, so Alicia then personally founded the first of the orders militant.
Sure.
She found the Eben Chalice.
Some of the people that were with her, though, who met the emperor, found other ones.
We have Order of Martyrid Lady, Argent Shrout, the Laurier.
Well, I do want to do for everybody watching the play that is going, as played or is going to play the game.
The Order of the Martyr Lady is the default sisters.
They were the index.
They have been the kind of go-to.
Yeah, which is interesting because the original one was Evan Chalice.
Seven Chalice is the first one.
And GW does this a lot where they'll have.
They flip, who's the.
Yeah, who's the key one?
I think it's usually, if I'm being honest,
it's done by GW discovering which is the easiest one to paint.
That's true story.
That's what, to be fair, what they should do.
Like the reason ultramarines are the patron,
not Imperial Fist, is because painting blue is actually a lot easier
than painting yellow or black, just calling it out.
We've got a couple good to the Argentroud.
We've got the Fowler's heart.
So we, we, we,
We have, which is all of them became saints, cough, cough, demons.
But we'll get into that a little bit.
From this structure, the adeptus sororitas starts to push out into the galaxy.
They're doing a very public military face style.
And this is kind of interesting because, like, the Imperial Guard, the citizens are aware of them, of the Guard and the Navy,
because almost every member of the Imperium
has a direct or like one removed family member
who serves in them, right?
The sisters don't forget.
You also see them.
Yeah, they are orphans.
Every other part of the military that you're going to see
usually is not a good thing.
Like, you see a gray knight, you did.
Oh, bad newsbears.
Unless Logan Grimnor shows up.
Yeah, Skittari, probably not a good thing.
Oh, would be there.
It'd be nothing good happens.
Custode, not a good thing.
If a custod's on your planet, things are already terrible.
You don't realize how bad things are about to get.
Even space marines.
Like if you see a space marine, you might have survived is why you're seeing a space marine.
There may have been like a tyrannid invasion and the space marines came in and you actually probably won't get murdered, maybe.
Depends on which chapter, but continue.
But the sisters are routine.
I mean, they're just wandering around.
They're part of daily life.
Yeah.
Well, the militant orders aren't.
part of day day life, but sisters are part of day.
Yeah. What's interesting about that, too,
I was thinking is like even with a guard, right?
So we think about everyone's aware of the guard,
but as we said, when a regiment is formed,
everyone leaves and they actually,
they never come back. But they do have,
they have planetary defense forces, which are
technically imperial guard. That's true. I was just more
thinking, like, the sisters are going to be there for
basically ever. Like I said,
like, if they're assigning a sister
to the planet to be a planetary governor, I don't
think they move them around that much.
No. Well, it depends on whether you, if you show up
with a full militant wing, though,
they will show up fighting.
That's a bad thing.
Like, yeah, that's usually means
your planets.
If you see them,
if you see a militant wing of the sisters,
it means your planet is in revolt against the emperor.
And you were probably getting
collateral than that one.
Yeah.
You're about to see some pretty lights on the sky.
You'll probably see,
to be fair.
It'll be fair.
You're probably seeing them because of something you did.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You,
you did some shit.
If you're seeing sisters of battle, they're probably facing you, not in a good way.
Yeah, you're, you are getting bolters pointed at you.
By the way, best case scenario, the second thing is you're just getting virus bombed.
Yeah, you're right.
The sisters there at least, you know, they're going to keep your house.
So from that, we're going to think a weird left turn because I can't do anything else.
This is such a peppy for you, by the way.
I hate the saints.
All right.
The, in thought they're amazing, though.
It's just they don't make, it's just the, the writing's too disjointed.
Anyway, we'll be right back after a quick break.
What is a saint?
So this is one of the strangest parts of the adeptus sororitas, I think.
Actually, even the Imperium in general is saints.
So I want to start off with, they are real.
Well, yes, but also let's talk about the fact that everything that a saint is is what the emperor did
not want in the beginning of the crusades. But he's doing it. I know. That's my whole point,
is everything he stood for in not being religious, not believing. They had so much faith.
And the emperor is at this point a chaos entity. He is powered by, he's affecting the war.
He's a war. He's not a chaos. Sorry. I know he's not. Sorry. He's not a chaos. I said that
completely wrong. But however, he is powered by the immaterial. He needs to
fighting in the Imitarium against chaos.
And he has actual power.
But the thing is, the sisters are giving him power because thought becomes reality in the
imitarium.
And they are so powerful in their belief that they made things become true.
This is my favorite part about the sisters is they believe, they did orc style.
They believed so hard that it became a reality.
They got superpowers.
they said they were getting superpowers.
The emperor protects me.
And I want to make it clear, you will, these powers are real.
This is, this is not Monty Python life of Brian Messiah stuff.
This is real.
No, but saints are real.
Yeah, but they're also powered by the war.
Yeah.
That's a side note.
And so it's a sister's cast.
I do want to say, like, for those of you who are newer the game and don't know,
is saints are not only sisters.
Sebastian Thor was made a saint.
Lord Soler was made a saint.
There was even a guardsman named Drusus who became a saint
because long, that's a long story for another day.
It's a cool story.
It's a really cool story.
He was basically Lazarus, so.
Yeah, but all my point is, like, saints don't have to be sisters,
but saints play a key part in the sisters.
Well, they're part of their biggest stories.
Yeah.
And so what makes a saint even more confusing to me
is kind of how you differentiate them from perpetuals.
Because a saint primarily in the sisters in the battle is someone who died and then came back to life,
which is what a perpetual is.
Yes.
But the sisters tend to not keep coming back.
Well, they don't, they're not perpetuals.
They're, you know who also keeps coming back, demons.
Yeah.
Which is more what they do.
They basically are powered by the warp.
They reform in the warp and they come back in times of need.
Again, the imiterium, and this is the biggest thing, because chaos effectively corrupted the shit out of it, the warp is thought.
The warp is just a font of power.
If you ever listen to our own ones cast.
The warp is not self-aware.
Things in the warp are.
Correct.
But like the warp isn't in itself bad.
Being powered by the imaterium isn't bad.
Materium is just magic.
Yeah.
So when we talk about saints, I actually, Brad, I actually disagree here.
I actually don't think that they're demons.
And the reason I'll explain it is because I think demons are things that have given their soul over and their soul is controlled by something else.
Whereas the living saints, they also, first of all, they do eventually die, whereas demons don't die.
Demons do.
Well, they don't die of old age.
Yeah.
And I think when I look at the way sisters function, the sisters feel to me more like they're possessed than anything else.
I don't think they're possessed.
I think they're infused.
I think that's a better term.
Much, much better term, actually.
Yeah, they're infused with the energy of the emperor,
which can make them immortal,
but that energy can go away, is what I'm getting it.
Whereas the demons, they've made a deal,
and their soul belongs to the emperor,
and their soul belongs to a chaos, gods.
I do think they're different,
but their functions not that different.
And I'll explain,
but let's talk to kind of like what a living saint is.
So good example is like St. Alicia Domenica.
Again, badass girl at the beginning.
So she's leading the soror doesn't battle against a traitor rebellion, which is what the sisters
are supposed to be doing with all their time.
Diatribe, they also fight Zenos for no reason.
But anyway, the planet goes into rebellion.
Sisters get sent in and they just stamp out the heresy.
They're perfect for this.
But anyway, Alicia is fighting and they're massively overmatched by the trader.
It's just incredibly outnumbered.
So she just goes to the front of the battle and gets shot in the face like a thousand times and could not careless.
Yeah, she does get pincushion in the story.
Yeah, just and then.
But at the end, after turning the tide and making the battle a win, one trader basically walks up to her and shoots her with the last pistol in the chest and she does.
Which is so bono-ass because she just took, like, last cannons.
Right.
But this is my point, though, is the emperor in my mind,
this is what makes it different from a demon prince.
A demon prince, you can shoot down and kill.
The emperor was helping her until the Imperium had won the battle,
and then his need for her went away.
Well, I'm sorry.
So the emperor helped her until he didn't really mean.
He got bored and focused over there.
And then he just left and just took off.
Yep.
That, to me, that's living saint,
is that they tend to be infused.
Now, some of them can carry.
this infusion for a lot longer than this battle here,
but it's a really good example because
she was, to the breath point,
a last cannon hit her in the face
and she went, all right, good to hear.
What else you got? And then some worked up with
the last pistol, which is one of the weakest weapons
in the game. It's commonly
referred to as a flashlight.
Yeah, it just drops her.
So to kind of understand
when we talk about living saints, because we're going to talk more
about them as we get into some of the key figures,
this is what they are.
Everyone's got different opinions on them, and it's great.
That's the way the game should be played.
We should have lots of like, oh, this is my interpretation.
This is your interpretation.
My interpretation is that they're just infused with the light of the emperor for as long as he feels like.
No, I mean, if you want to go with the goodness, though, they're infused with the light of the emperor for as long as the sisters need them to be infused with the light of the emperor.
Yeah, that's a great way to put it.
Because a lot of the saints are invulnerable almost.
until they don't...
Until the conflict is over.
Yeah, until they're not needed,
but not needed in a good way.
It's not like...
The emperor, he is discarding them.
They'll get me wrong.
But he's using them to turn the tide
of an unwinnable battle
to the side of the imperial.
And the thing is, to be fair,
to be honest,
most of the saints are saints
in defense of other sisters.
There's so many stories of the saints
defending a temple,
defending a stronghold,
defending a whatever, and they stay there until that defense is over and then they're done.
It's not, it's all, there is, I can't see never.
Most of the time, though, it's, I have basically sacrificed myself to stop this from being taken.
Yep.
And then it's over.
And then once it's solved for them birds there.
So that being said, let's dive a bit more.
Now we've kind of established scenes.
We've established a few things.
We did that so we could then.
dive more until like the units of the sister and characters of the sisters. So first we'll
start off with some of the key units of the sisters. And like with every faction of the game,
they have between 23 units, world eaters. You're counting. I counted. It's 23. I know, but
you're okay. I got to, I'm getting my cheat together. I realize one of those are a rhino.
I get that. Also, like several of them are just not being taken because they have nothing to do with it.
They're an option. Well, you mean, people don't think world.
leader Terminators.
They're taking more than forge fiends.
Or maybe a thousand data sheets like space marines.
So the sisters, all of these encompass, the idea of the sisters is that they are a standalone
army.
So their units encompass every need for the sisters from regular infantry, heavy entry,
vehicles, and then some unique specialties.
Given that they're on almost every system of the galaxy and as well as two headquarters,
plus ships, we're talking millions, billions of them.
The good thing for them is that they've got the Scola Progenium, which we discussed during the
assassins cast.
It's a nightmare thing.
The Scola is made up.
The Scola grabs all the orphans in the galaxy.
Which is super easy because we're constantly killing the shit out of Imperial Garden.
So your parents die all the time.
Right.
And what makes this function is when we talk about the size of sisters, this is why I do believe
it's in the billions, because there are billions.
probably trillion plus guardsmen, and then on top of the Imperial Navy.
So if every two of them has one child, so we're apparently doing the China 90s, one child
policy, there would still be over a billion orphans, given the overall mortality rate.
If half of them are female, that means the sororitas have a base recruit of a half billion.
They're doing all right.
Yeah.
They don't have to run that many commercials.
No, yeah.
They're able to pull a bunch of them in.
So that's why the sister's order is massive,
both in the hospitaliers and the educators, et cetera,
but more importantly, the sisters of battle,
and they have endless numbers of them.
Let's dive into some of those sisters of battle.
So the core are battle sisters,
which are their standard infantry,
who, as I complained about last time,
where the same power arm is a space marine,
move at the same speed as a space marine,
and shoot the same gun as a space marine.
Boulder.
They do have a lower toughness.
They are T3.
They can also be poison.
So can be space marine.
I mean, to be fair.
Necron's can be poison.
No, they cannot.
Necrons can be poison, Brad.
If I want to shoot them with my poison, right?
the Necron has to, I still get my anti-infantry.
I kind of let this go.
I get trash so much in disco for this.
It's fun.
In fact, the sisters, I mean, and I say the sisters can wield a lot of the same weapons of space marines.
I do want to point out bolters, flamers, heavy bolters, multi-melters.
The only one I realize they don't carry or Las Canons?
They don't carry Las Canons, which would actually semi be the tipping point because last canons are so freaking heavy with the power pack.
Versus a multi-melter?
Multi-melter has the power.
They actually shouldn't be able to pick that.
Because the multi-melter's power pack is in the gun.
The last canons power pack is in the backpack and connected.
I'm still, I had the same thought.
I got you.
I agree.
I mean, the last guy's heavier than a multi-melter.
And then I'm like, went and looked up what multi-melters was again.
I went, yeah, I was to say the gun itself is.
Yeah.
You would not, you could not get that off the ground.
Yeah, you wouldn't be able to pick it up.
Yeah.
It's so heavy.
Yeah.
So anyway, they also get, I mean, jump packs, power swords.
I get heavy weapons, too, the heavy melee weapons.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm just, I'm going to heart back on this.
Why do we have space marines?
Cool tattoos, ponytails?
Yeah.
I'm just trying to figure out, like, what the point of a space marine is when I, when I read about what the sister's going to do.
I mean, in the lore, a space marine could just punch to death an entire sister's crew.
Could it, though?
Not on the board.
No, but you're saying in the lore.
As long as a saint doesn't show up.
No, no, no, no.
So in the lore, what happened when the space marines landed on Terra and tried to get to Gojj?
Oh, that's true.
They shot them in the face a lot.
That's my point.
It's like the sisters, this just seems like I feel like I'm solving a problem where it's like, hey,
Imperium, maybe instead of trying to get some space Marines to do something, you take your
billion battle sisters and go just deal with your problems.
I mean, seems legit.
Yeah.
The only explanation I have for this, by the way, is just true belief.
Is the fact that the sisters, for whatever reason, their belief in the emperor is so strong.
And it is so, so very strong.
It's where their powers come from, though, dude.
That's a real thing.
We have, we've addressed it.
We still address it again.
Sisters believe so hard that they actually have, in.
vulnerability sometimes. They believe so much that the emperor will protect them. On the board,
they have an invululence. Yeah. That's a real thing. And it's real. I get that.
They get up all volcano cannons and just go, nope, the emperor protects me. Why are we using space
Marines? I mean, I'm not doing a very good job of saying anything besides that. You're just like,
I'm going to argue your point for you, but more aggressively in your favor. I feel like I'm just
going to yell louder. No, you see, we should use space Marines because the system.
are light years better and easier to make and more effective.
That's why we should use space marines.
I feel you just made margin for me, John.
I mean, oh, sorry, diatribe stuff, but try to keep us on a topic here.
So let's talk about a couple of the more key and, actually, I think,
lower fun units within the sisters.
And the first one is like the Zephram, who the Zephyrum are a jump pack melee squad.
They come in with jump packs and power.
I'm sorry.
Are you selling Zephyram short?
Yeah, sure, they have power armor.
Sure, they have swords and jump packs.
The main thing about Zephym is their craziest shit.
Out of their minds.
Like, I would have started with that.
They're crazy people.
And they launch them.
You're right.
They're actually one of the cooler parts of the sisters.
Army.
Good point, right.
They attack things that they have no business attacking.
You have five foot three sisters going,
Demon lords, giant Ternans, good to hear.
Let's melee them, hand to hand.
Let's talk about the lore of them a little bit,
because the lore of them is actually cool.
So they are functionally crazy.
So in order to become a Zephrin,
you can only do it if you have a personal connection
to the God emperor through prayer.
When they get this connection,
they actually tend to reach a perpetual state of communion with him,
during which they now no longer can speak normally.
Like these sisters, if you interact with Zepham,
they basically mumble.
You want to hear a breath today?
Go.
The emperor is just too wildly powerful.
They get a connection to him.
He eats the brain.
Yeah, he's just, his psychic presence is so big.
It's the, in the Bible, you can't speak to God himself
because the voice of God will destroy you.
Yeah.
I feel like that's what the emperor.
The Zephrum are just like.
They touched a little bit of the emperor,
But the emperor is so psychically powerful at this point in time
that just brushing his consciousness shatters your little baby brain.
And the Zephram, when they land in combat,
they just, they think they go into a blood rage for the emperor
and cut through stuff,
which is why on the tabletop,
they move at the same speed as a space ring with a jump pack.
Yep.
I think they're one strength lower.
That's about it.
Same weapon.
Yeah, same weapon.
And they're able to wield these things.
And it's because they actually do have a spiritual connection to the emperor.
And it's not a one-way connection.
Zephrim Rex shop.
Seffremer are awesome.
Yeah, I've played against it a few times.
It hasn't gone great.
On the other end of spectrum, though, I do will laugh at are the retributors?
Retributors.
Retributors are the exact opposite because they are weirdly, I mean, you look at them as librarians almost.
Yeah.
They are so chill.
they're heavy weapon squads,
people that shoot the big guns.
They jump out of transports,
shoot the big guns,
they're in the middle of combat.
A lot of their heavy weapons
are very short range.
Yeah, I did laugh.
Actually, in the notes made like,
oh, yeah, they use their calmness
to aim their heavy weapons
and slay foes at range.
And I'm like, well, it's actually all melta.
So range, the ranges,
I'm not right in front of you,
but I'm not, but I can see you.
You're like, I can jab you and shoot this weapon at you.
Yeah, that's the whole point, though,
is that they're so chill in the face of epic.
Like, they are danger close.
Yeah, it would make, and I'll be, yes,
the lore on them kind of,
I struggle with a little bit,
because I think about them as the idea of being the soldier,
holding the very large gun,
who's just calm enough to fire it in combat,
but at the same time,
they're holding a gun that they just should not be able to pick up.
True, but like, in my mind,
they don't do it in the game enough.
I really feel that they're direct,
is like long things.
Yeah.
It's just a,
I've seen some shit,
I can be put here.
And also,
when you're equipped with these weapons,
these are expensive,
real things for the...
Oh, I mean,
and a squad,
one thing I will laugh at is
a squad of retributors
is going to be five multi-meltas,
right?
Well, four.
Four multimilters and...
And a melt.
Is there,
and I'm actually asked this question
with Brad plays this game more than I do.
Is there any space,
Marine that carries that level.
The dev squads do.
The dev squads can carry all multi-melters?
The devsquots can carry four plus a special.
Okay.
They're the same.
They're the same.
They're the same, but these girls have to do all of it in your, because they come with
the main weapons you take in the squad and has been forever.
Are, because they've had special rules for them over the years and they've also had money
of story.
Is multi-melters and heavy.
fleamers. So on the board, your usual, let's just say on the board, let's, let's do a comparison.
Let me, can I do one caveat there for people who don't play the game? These are two weapons that are
primarily found on vehicles. Yes. These are, these are not, they're rambling all this stuff.
These are not people, these are not normal handheld ones. No one in the guard can carry these.
This is why I want to compare it on the board, though. And this is why you have to have that cool
head, though, because the average
weapon carried by a Marine
heavy weapon squad have ranges
of 36 to 48 inches.
Yeah. Which on a board that's only...
It's almost the width of a board. Yeah. Yeah. And
then you have sisters who show up with a weapon that shoots
either 12 or max 24, and they only get
their special rules if they're at 12 or less. Yeah. So they
have to get danger close up in person of
I don't know, a demon lord, a giant hive tyrant.
Because you're not just, let me tell you what you're not shooting with your sisters,
cultists.
All the time.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm not a screen.
But I'm saying, you're, these, the girls are coming out and they're shooting the scariest
terrible thing on the, the opponent.
I mean, I laugh.
They actually, they come out of a transport carrying weapons that that transport,
which struggle to carry.
And also right next to the thing.
Then they come out of it and pull up these guns.
That's why Retributors are really cool because they take these horrifying guns and just melt an enemy.
Also, pretty big risk reward here because you better kill the thing that you're standing in front of because it's usually something terrifying.
True.
You know, hey, man, I shot the bloodthirster with this multi-melted.
Did you hit?
Nah, I was a little shaky and I missed it.
It's going to be bad.
Really bad.
That's a good transition to another chunk of them are Celestines and Dominions.
Which are, they're effectively the same thing.
Celestines are the melee version.
Dominions are the range.
And these are just the elite infantry.
Again, I will say the Celestine model.
You say ranged, it's cup close and personal guns.
It's Flamers and Meltals.
I will say I love, love the Celestine model, especially the ones in the ones in the
the Paragon war suits.
Paragon war suits are amazing.
They're actually semi-newer to the game and the lore.
They are.
So they're walkers.
You're ready for this?
Because I'm about to point out, how the hell does that thing work?
It's an exoskeleton war suit.
So a person is, how?
How does this thing actually function at full speed?
I saw the Matrix.
I mean, no, you mean aliens.
Well, I saw aliens.
I mean, it's twice the size of a space marine and power armor.
No black carapids.
just a pilot with some levers.
And it's able to, I guess, again.
Also, by the way, no front armor.
Yeah.
You're sitting in a lawn chair.
Just look at the model.
But everybody, Google that.
Google Paragon Warsoot and just go, hey, why don't they put a screen door in front of you?
It's the same as the Invictor in Victor Worsuit.
Yeah.
Well, that guy's wearing Power Armor, though.
Do I mean, the Citgers are wearing Power armor?
just still sitting in a chair.
That's how it is.
Yes.
They're wearing power armor.
I mean, I would like...
I just want to point out, this is a lot...
This is, again, I think the problem is, I'm answering my own question.
It's the power of the emperor allowing them to do this, but I just like the idea that
it's a person without a black carapace wearing power armor.
And then while wearing that power armor, they're then powering, they're maneuvering an
exos suit.
So just to kind of paint the picture of everybody, when you're wearing power armor, your hands
are a giant glove.
Yeah.
Right.
And it's massively, it's larger than your fingers.
With a billion sensors into a lot.
Yeah.
So the idea would be, so this person is manipulating the glove that they're wearing.
And then that glove is manipulating levers that are then manipulating another arm of the thing that you're inside of.
I'm going to scroll so hard on this.
Yeah.
No, I know.
You cut it for his, but like, it's, you do realize that like most of the people that run power armor and or any of these suits.
freaks out when they're not in their suit because they're taught their whole lives.
How to run it?
Well, also because they have all of their implants.
Yeah.
Are made to interact with their suit.
And I'm going to have the same diet.
I'm going to have the same diet.
But anyway.
I'm just saying it's a lot of these people, like when they're not in their suits, are losing their shit because, hey, man, like, I have half my biomechanics are only made for
being inside this suit.
I am still going to crap pretty hard on this concept of like,
it just actually, no, hold on.
I need to be nicer about this.
It doesn't make any sense under the laws of physics.
And I'm talking about a galaxy built,
not necessary on the laws of physics.
I was just saying, what?
I realize my diatribe here is not really good there.
You mean the magic galaxy?
But I will stand by, let's just use them,
not space marines.
That I'm dead right on.
But anyway, what we should be focusing on now, though, is some of the more fun elements of the sisters.
And by fun, I mean, super messed up.
No, like nightmare shit.
Well, we're going to get.
Well, we just, no, let's talk about where we're hopping from.
We just went with two different elite level sisters that have rose the ranks to be the best of the best.
And they get the best equipment, the best weapons, the best suits, the whatever.
and then we're going to go into, I don't know,
oh, John, you could do the least offensive thing ever.
Oh, what's your penalty for doing that thing?
Being repentia.
So that's on the repensure,
which is the second or maybe third most screwed up part of the sisters of battle.
So the repentia are members of the sisters who have failed the sisters in one way or the other.
Nothing bad, by the way.
By the way,
really fail, we have other ones.
We're going to do wild air quotes.
Yeah.
Because failed is such a bananas wide.
Yeah.
We're not talking like, oh, I felt a heresy.
No, you just get killed.
Yeah, this is someone, this is most likely someone who hesitated for a moment when looking at a demon prince.
It could be someone who like mispronounced a litany, although they, that person's obviously.
Also, you didn't succeed in killing the hive time?
right away kind of thing.
Oh, you had to have backup come in?
You didn't kill it with your power sword?
So these sisters, what's interesting about them is that you're not put into the repenship.
You put yourself into the repension.
Which is still bananas.
You feel that you failed it.
So these are all self-reported failings, which is...
This is also, you could be a failing of thought.
Some people go into their repenture because they had...
doubts. Yeah, but I think this is also important because the sisters are so stalwart in their belief
that not admitting that you had a failing to them would be a sign of corruption and thus heresy.
You have people in their pencha, and this is not all of them. This is just, but I mean, this is stories.
Repentia are people, some of them are people that just had literally a bad dream about a fight coming up
where they didn't perform and they joined the repentia because they go, if I doubt the emperor's will,
I clearly.
Exactly.
And this is where I like repentia a lot because this part actually makes sense to me.
So to a sister, there is nothing more important than their connection to the God emperor.
There's nothing in there.
By failing at any level of their faith in that emperor, they feel that they have let the emperor down.
And their greatest fear every sister has is losing the connection to the emperor, either by failing him or just him abandoning them.
And that's what makes these repentia so crazy is because they will do anything to repent.
Get it?
Yeah.
Get it?
So the repenture believe the only way to regain the emperor's light is to thrust themselves into battle wearing nothing but his.
is light. Thankfully, GW didn't go full weird and make these naked models.
There, I'm not even a good. There are the original. I was saying,
don't. I know. Anyway, they cleaned it up a little bit. So what they wear are basically
cloths. They, the effect of the, they are better armor than an ork. No, but. Well, yeah,
that's true. I mean, effectively what they're wearing, if you want to go real world,
think they're wearing, they're supposed to be wearing sackcloth. Yeah. You know what I mean?
It's designed to be...
They're wearing uncomfortable nothing
to repent for their failings to the emperor.
But that's not...
They're wearing nothing.
They're carrying a very much so something.
And I love this.
They read it.
So obviously, I hate chains swords.
We've been over this.
If you don't know what I'm talking about,
go listen to the weaponry of the Imperial cast.
Yeah, but they're not doing a chainsword.
They're rounding an eviscerator.
Yeah, the penitent eviscerator,
which is a chain sword that's like even larger and less,
it's an even larger abomination of the laws of physics.
They are legitimately wielding cloud sword from Final Fantasy 7, all of them.
Well, no, but it's a chain version.
Yeah, they're willing the buster sword, but a chain version of it.
And it's also that big.
It is so much bigger than that.
It's larger than that.
The models actually look cool as hell.
And what they do is they just charge headlong into enemies carrying a chain sword.
and all they're trying to do is kill as many as they possibly can before they die.
Because that death, the emperor will, you know, forgive them.
One of my favorites is they effectively have, they have their invulsafe because their belief in the invul.
Yeah.
Or they're saying, Bill life in the inval, belief in the emperor.
But they have what's called in the game of Fiona Payne, an extra role.
Yeah.
Because they are so driven by the emperor that getting a mortal wound.
Yeah, we should actually call out what these are.
So if you've never played the game, you want to feel no pain is go watch Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
And it's just a flesh wound.
That's what these things are.
You can cut a chunk of the mouth and they just keep fighting because they don't feel the pain of the injury.
They just continue to fight.
You're like, you just lost your leg, sister.
Yeah, I got another.
Flash wound.
Yeah.
I'll just hop over.
I'm still holding my eviscerator.
Yeah, I've got my eviscerator.
I will gnaw your leg off.
Yeah.
I don't even, why are you asking me this?
So obviously, a lot of them die.
A lot of them.
Yes.
If any of them do survive, they're viewed as regaining the blessing of the emperor and
return back to the order of the sisters.
And there's, what's crazy about this is actually a lot more of this.
Here's what I'll say about this.
Repentia should have a very high mortality rate.
And they do.
in the lore.
In the game, they live all the time.
I detest miracle dice because of repensia.
I have done, I'm Brad too.
We have bounced off repensia horrifyingly.
Yeah, people with a six-up save with a five of Finno pain.
Yeah.
Obviously, they're going to make all of them.
Early ninth edition, when they had like,
unlimited.
Unlimited.
Unlimited miracle dice, you could change all the sixes.
That was fun.
That wasn't Evangelist thing.
I know it was.
And I don't miss Evangelist that they deserve their.
timeout.
That's how this goes.
It's the same way.
Like we saw space wolves kind of come back.
We're like,
are the wolves back?
And those got nerfed again.
Why?
We're not over a seventh edition,
guys.
We're not over it.
They were never me playing in the end of time.
Jesus.
So what I do like about the repensure, though,
is that there are some very key stories we're going to get to where the sisters of
repentia who survived the battle end up gaining the ultimate light of the emperor.
And, you know, hint, hint.
saints. One of my favorite pieces about repentia
and the lore, though, is the way that the sisters of battle view them.
They are not pariahs within the sister. The sisters of battle actually
love repentance. No, because the repentia chose to be
repentia. This is sisters making, effectively,
the ultimate sacrifice, because you're not expected to survive. Right, but you're doing
and so they view them, they don't treat them as outcasts, and in fact, they actually
root for them. Like the sisters
of battle, and I like this
because a lot of times when you think about like something that would
be a repentia in a lore, it would be
oh yeah, they deserve to die.
They have harmed the emperor. The sisters
of battle are, you know, they basically
after the battle, they rush over
to where the repentia were on the battlefield
to see if any have survived because there's
it's like their dream is knowing that
there is salvation, basically. Well, it's nothing but
love for them. Period. There's just
huge love for them. They're really great stories.
I, repentia are one of my favorite lore stories, 100%.
However.
You talk about, well, you know what's not a fun story?
Yeah.
However, let's have some fun with.
Now, as we just said, the repentia are people who, in their own mind, have slited the emperor.
Chose.
Yeah, what one case is they, they in their own mind have slighted the emperor and they have
chosen to redeem themselves for it.
Others slight the emperor and it's chosen for them to redeem themselves in the emperor.
And we're about to talk about archoflagellants and penitent engines.
I mean, penit engines are worse, but archoflagellants are...
Yeah, penitens are worse, but it's not like...
Argoflagellans are just a prison sentence.
Yeah, but we're talking about dying in a fire or dying in a hotter fire.
Well, dying in a slow simmer fire.
These are...
Arcoflagellans are effectively just prisoners.
They're people that have been, they've committed heresy.
But I want to spend more time on this because this is actually morbidly funny.
We'll be right back after a quick break.
So the Arco, so the sisters, as you could imagine, capture a number of heretics, all right?
And these aren't just, these aren't just, they'll be their captures, though.
Oh, everyone does.
No, no, let's go into what they are.
Arcoflagellans are people that judge, jury, whoever, the sisters, the imperial judicial system,
whoever has sentenced you to death.
And the sisters go,
nah,
give them to us.
Right, but why give them to us?
Because this is why I love the sisters
and their,
they're like psychotic devotion.
The sisters believe that everyone
would want to be a repentia.
And so what the sisters do is,
their viewpoint is,
I'm going to take this person
who has committed a sin against the Imperium
and has,
deserves to die for the Imperium,
but I'm going to give them a chance
to serve the Imperium
before I kill them.
Now, they all die.
None of the victims
chose to become Arcoflagellans.
Zero percent.
Also, all of them would much,
much, much,
add as many much as you want.
Yeah, rather die.
Rather die.
Yeah, 100.
Like, oh, I forgot to mention
when they make you an Arcoflagellant,
not a super great procedure.
Yeah, let's go through that process.
Because I do, this is just, it's funny in some messed up ways.
So first, you're lobotomized, servitor style.
Wait for it, though.
Oh, John, you made it sound almost nice.
You're like lobotomized.
So that means I don't know what's going on.
Wait a minute.
Well, to a point.
No, they keep their awareness.
Yeah, their awareness, but everything else is turned off.
No, they're saying you still know what's happening.
You, you again are in a,
nightmare situation where you're aware what's happening.
Yes and no.
I'm going to argue with you here because they're not fully aware.
Like if they're fully aware, then this process wouldn't work.
What they are is they're alive and they're alert.
There's no higher processing.
They also feel and know what's going on.
They don't know.
They feel what's going on.
That's nothing.
Yeah.
Because if they knew what's going on, then this wouldn't work.
Because we have to go through.
Kind of.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fun argument between us.
But so they the, they, sorry.
they lobotomize them out so that they really only have kind of a base level of awareness.
Then they cut off their arms and replace them.
Yeah.
And replace them because this is why things are actually,
I hate these things on the tabletop more from like.
They're so awesome.
That's why I hate them because they have wrecked my armies.
But anyway,
they cut their arms off and their arms are replaced with either just spinning blades or mechanical whips.
Which are monofilament whips, which cuts through anything.
Which, yeah, they'll cut there anything.
And then they have a weird helmet shoved on their head.
And we'll get to that in a minute.
Because this helmet turns them on and off.
Yeah, because we'll get to more in a second.
Oh, I forgot to mention, you forgot to mention the fact that they also have, I don't know, one or two tubes attached to them.
Yeah, their entire spine has these canisters and tubes attached to them that just create a bunch of chemicals in it.
And these chemicals are designed to hit their body and create a level of rage and hatred that is just blinding.
So that's why when Brad now we're arguing about, are you aware?
not much.
Kind of.
But yes, also.
But also, this is a, everything they give them is a lethal dose.
By the way, in the game, these guys don't die a lot of times.
However, at the end of the game, all archoflagellular.
Yeah, all archiflagellas should be caught.
Well, sometimes they do recover them, but it's, yeah, we'll get them.
Kind of.
So what's crazy is that the archoflagellant, the helmet that they're wearing, turned,
it just basically turns them on or off.
So they're usually left in the off position for obvious reasons.
when it's time for battle,
they basically put them in a transport,
drop them and then turn the helmet on.
And when they turn the helmet on,
also all the chemicals inject their body,
which create,
which put them in a stage of just insane rage,
but also incredible strength.
Speed, strength and speed.
Yeah, I'm going to actually reference a game called Rifts
and something called a juicer.
That's what these are.
You're such an old man.
I know it.
Also, I played Rer.
Rift so many times.
It's such a good game.
Way too complicated.
That's why I never took off.
It was a good game.
But anyway.
So,
like,
is taking a character spent
the entire day.
Yeah.
What this does is
they're just full of murder time.
This next bit's a little bit stupid,
but it's cool.
The helmet that they're wearing
has a visor in it
that lets them see out.
The sisters of battle
control this helmet.
It's so weird, though,
because it,
it's a super-sized
five version of horse blinders? Yeah, exactly.
They can only see now in their eyes what are their enemies.
So they won't even see a sister of battle on the field.
And then because of their rage, all they have is a desire to rush forward and kill whatever
they see.
Because also they're in incredible, they say they feel no pain.
They have all of the pain.
That's the whole reason they don't feel the pain.
It's because they went, hey, you guys go faster if we just put acid in your blood.
They're like, yeah, but there'll be assing them.
I'm like, yeah, yeah, you'll be fine.
So the flagellas just rush the field.
Now, this part does, that part does make,
doesn't make a ton of sense to me?
So I'm like, well, what if a sister's fighting someone is a flagellas
run over and kill that thing?
Like, he'd still got spinning blades and spinning whips.
Feel like there'd be some collateral damage.
Yeah.
So I think there's mostly, I say it's because they should always be deployed
in the front of the army as skirmishers,
but I've played in the tabletop,
and they seem to come out of the backfield an awful lot.
Also out of vehicles.
Yeah, looking at you, sister players.
Uh-huh.
And so the flatulents mostly just die as they're slaughtering.
However, at the end of the battle, if any are there, one of two things happen.
Either A, they're turned off and used again, which is very rare.
They just shoot them.
Yeah, because it's more common to execute them.
It's still, there is no redemption for the arc of flatulents.
They still have the sentence of death.
But that's the thing.
There is redemption because they then took their evil.
My bad.
And now thanks to all of the problems.
put together, they now get to go serve the emperor.
John's also a big fan of the witch trials where if you sink and die, you were obviously innocent.
It's a matter of you just weigh them against the duck.
It's really easy.
It's not a complicated system.
That was almost a spit.
I got you.
He almost killed me.
I got bread mid-ductor-dye duck a duck pepper in there on a Monty Python joke, and there was no way that wasn't sinking in.
But like these guys.
Small rocks.
these
it's just
this is a death sentence
and it's a horrible death sentence
and we can argue the awareness of them
because I do think that they want them
to feel the pain
because they want them to redeem themselves
through the pain
which is a kind of a sister's theme
I struggle with the awareness
because if they're aware
they just take those whips
and hit the sisters
because a lot of these are
no I think they're aware
but they can control
heretics.
It's it's be no awareness doesn't mean
that you have
control of your body. Oh, that's fair. Yeah.
Remember servitors.
Servitors have no control over anything that you do.
That's fair. I just...
They just are aware. They're a passenger in their own body.
That's a good way of putting it. Okay.
Now...
By the way, everything we just said about archoflagellulants sounds bad.
Luxury.
That's the better. Going back to Monty Python.
Yeah. That's the better one. Yeah, exactly. I wish I could be spat at in the face.
My dream.
Luxury.
Today is going to be a Monty Python day.
Sorry.
sisters of the battle, it's there.
By the way,
what happened
to you, GW, employee
that you created
the penitent engine? Yeah.
Holy shit. This is someone who went
to one too many torture museums.
What the crap is happening?
Actually, I'll be in London later this year.
But anyway, so penitent engines.
So when a member of the Imperium
specifically commits an unforgivable crime
in which execution or archiflagular
is considered too lenient, they use the penitent engine.
This is examples, I just want to give some examples.
This is a member, this would be a member of the Ecclesiarchy, or a sister who has turned
against the emperor.
Any member, anyone who like harms, who, like, infiltrates.
It's so, like, a regular citizen who, like, murders a priest, no one cares.
This is someone who, like, intentionally infiltrates.
And it's specifically...
Or on the battlefield.
Yeah.
Loses the lives of sisters.
This is, yeah, the pendant engines are...
The archoflagellants means you did something against the emperor.
The penitent engines usually means you did something against the Ecclesarchy or the emperor kind of directly.
Like, maybe you got a little bit too close to the Golden Throne.
Like, like, these are extreme.
And there really shouldn't be that many of them.
That's just me bitching because they're actually, they're hard to kill.
And this is what happens when the sisters send some blueprint requests to the admec.
And the ad me, go, I got this.
Which, by the way, not even a thought.
They were just like, oh, sure, we'll make that.
I can definitely make the ultimate torture device.
I had some blueprints already in the lab because I'm a weird dude.
We're actually already making this.
We couldn't figure how to use it.
But, all right, you can.
Cool.
You want more of the guy?
It's like it's like the Star Wars is episode one or episode two where
Knobe discovers like it's like it is attacking the clothes it's like you just have all of
these already yeah yeah we're making it for a while why what's up yeah like do you want the first
or second wave because we have so many we got tons of these things there and the
admet and it's just like oh what were you going to use them for ad me a thing yeah that's
stuff I mean you
know. We weren't going to actually use them.
We were just manufacturing tens of
thousands. Just in case. Yeah.
We were just
trying to suit your needs.
Yeah, we were just tinkering in the garage.
You know how these things happen. Don't mind us.
Well, let's tell everybody what a pen of the engine.
Besides a nightmare.
Yeah. So it is a giant bipedal
machine robot, whatever you would get it, with a giant
open space in the front. In the space in the front,
you place your victim. And they are actually
in what is effectively a crucifix
position, arms to each side, legs down.
And basically, there's no way I'm skipping this part of the note.
You know, John's going to try to overdo this because he writes these half the time when he's
half asleep.
But all I say, I also talk drinking sometimes.
But yeah.
All the note says is, but not similar enough to create any intellectual property violations.
I wrote, let me wrote.
I wrote their positions similarly to a crucifix, but not similarly enough to create any
intellectual property violations.
So it's like, yeah, close-ish.
Oh, fuck.
Yeah.
Anyway, the victim then is wired into the engine so that their mind becomes the power
source for the machinery, but they don't have any control over it.
Whoa, whoa.
Their mind becomes the power source.
No, no, no.
Their suffering becomes the power source.
Accurate, yeah.
Whoa, whoa.
You're like, hey, they're doing this through the powers of their mind.
Nope.
No, their mind is like they use a piece of their mind like a micro processor to kind of route
the, route the whole everything through.
Oh, for a to mention that when you get strapped into a pen and engine, it's basically,
hey, you're getting your catheter while you're awake and it's so much worse.
And so what happens is it's not just their brain, but also their whole body gets hooked in.
And so then the chemicals start pumping into their body.
And these chemicals are designed to do one, actually two things.
First, ping.
create a consistent sense of pain,
but also keep you alive.
Well, they amplify all sensations of pain, just pain.
It's just pure pain, but also they keep you alive.
So just by sitting in this pendant engine,
you are in excruciating unending pain.
Then the machine fills your brain
with every painful and sad and horrible emotion.
Because you should feel, you should feel bad about betraying the ever.
Your body is in absolute agony.
Your brain is melting.
Our next cast is going to be Droucarry.
Hint, hint.
This living torture chamber is then just sent out towards the enemy.
And the only way that you can make this pain stop is to die.
Which is super hard because you are juiced up to the max.
But you're also in a seromite view.
vehicles. Well, not in the front.
No, but I'm just saying, as long as any piece of you is even, by the way, you have to blow up your head.
Yeah, that's the thing. Like, you could cut off your head.
The individual. And you would still be fine in this thing. Yeah, the individual inside the pendant engine is fully, their body is fully exposed to the front.
So that they amplify all pain. Yeah. Every shot that hits them, they feel. But as we just said, their body's also wired in, which means that if you, if you shoot the leg,
off of someone in a pendant engine, they're fine.
You could actually kill, you could take your M16 and go from the feet and shoot all the way up.
And as long as the heads still in existence.
They're still feeling the fame.
They're fine.
So the pendant engine and so your only way to die is, I mean, the only way to stop the pain is to die.
And it's incredibly hard to die.
But what's also equally messed up on a pendant engine is that they don't give them like ranged weapons.
So this isn't a dreadnought.
They get flamers and arms.
And they go to punch stuff.
And they get sent head first into the end of the enemy with just flamers and punching.
They should move faster, by the, or they should scout faster and everything else.
They should be so far away.
No, sisters move too fast.
No.
I know you're right.
I just have enough issues.
But they should be so far in front of the army.
Fair.
I mean, the sisters, the one part I do like about this, though, the funny part is that the sisters of battle,
take a special joy watching when a pendant engine explodes
and like fire and blood.
Because they think, again, in their mind,
they're so happy for the victim.
The victim got, you know,
they got repentia.
They sat there.
Redemption.
They went out there and they did a horrible thing for the emperor
and we strapped them to the pendant engine.
And look, they went out there
and they redeemed themselves for the emperor
by dying gloriously and exploding
while trying to kill his foes.
The sisters have problems.
Yeah, I really honestly can't tell if sisters are good or bad.
They're bad.
I'm sorry, they just are.
Yeah, there's a lot of evil.
All right.
Let's now focus on some of the key members or key characters of the current sisters.
And we're kind of do these in short to long.
The shortest one is Morvin Ball.
I mean, she's the shortest?
She's also the most important.
Yeah, but the story is super short.
I think of Morven Ball.
She does have a book.
It's very long, but it's actually, I'm going to be candid.
Not a lot.
really happens in it. It's just, it's just a book about her being a badass.
You can edit me out. I dislike this book. I read this book.
Yeah, that's, that's, I hate it. I don't, I can't say I hate it. I just,
she felt like a character forced on me. That's, that's my viewpoint on Morven Ball.
So Morven Ball, the, I'll be honest, the cliff notes on her are way better than the book.
So anyway, the Cliff notes on Morven Vall are that she was a Celestine who just suddenly promoted to be
the abyss of this, of the system.
As we said earlier, the abbess is supposed to be selected by having all the groups of sisters get together and vote for one person to be their leader.
She, the Ecclesiarchy, decided the sisters were a bit of a danger and decided to just make their own.
So the Ecclesiarchy who were over in charge of the sisters, but non-in-charges sisters just did this thing.
And the story is kind of funny because literally the Ecclesiarchy just shows up on her planet and tells her that she's the abbess.
And she just goes, well, hold on a second.
prays for like four days and then goes, okay.
Yeah, but it continues on because she wins.
Morven Vall is the effective equivalent of winning the lotto for three days in a row.
Yeah.
And so it's really, the story is just odd, but we have to cover her because of this.
She's awesome on the table.
Well, she's all stable.
And even the book, she does awesome things.
She's awesome.
I think your description of it feels the book's forced on you is,
accurate because what happens is, like, they made a quick story.
And the story is, yeah, Morven Vall is supposed to effectively make the sisters less
powerful.
The ecclesiarchy promotes someone who's unknown, not, she's not unpopular, but it's not
popular.
She's just not connected.
Yeah.
They make her the abbess of the sisters.
And their idea is, ha-ha, with her there, we'll be able to have control.
And Morven-Val does do some funny things.
Like, she shows up back on Tara and wears her power.
while wandering around talking to the other Lords of Terra, which is in which so sisters themselves
are intimidating to be around and Morvin's a large sister. So she's a, she's a large,
she's a powerful strong. She's a powerful girl. And she is, and she's wearing power armor.
Which means you double the size. Yeah. While arguing with you. So this was actually kind of funny.
And I like this. What's even funnier about this is that she's there around the same time,
Gilliman reappears back in Terra.
And Gilliman takes one look at her and goes,
well, yes.
Gman has a conversation with her and just goes,
I like the cut of your jib.
You're now a lord of terror.
Exactly. Yeah.
And he goes, you guys listen to them or,
and he does the freaking,
the unforgiven on him and goes,
and if you don't, I'll come back and kill every goddamn last one of you.
And everybody goes, what the shit just happened?
And that's what the story is funny is because it's like,
this is where I think this was,
have been mistake GW made, honestly,
was they made it a very long book
where it could have been a lot quicker
because the story is funny that the ecclesiarchy
was like, oh, sisters are too powerful.
Let's just grab some random sister
and put her in charge.
And then we can regain our power of the sisters.
Fast forward like one month
and that person is now a lord of terror.
And fully backed by the space marines,
which means also backed by the ad back.
So it's over.
And it's a big thing.
It wasn't just a this.
is a stamp thing. He looked, he eyeball,
G-man eyeballed everyone up and went, yeah, she's the Lord of Terror.
Say something about it.
Yeah.
Or do something.
If I come back here, just letting you know, if I come back from the front lines,
shit's going down.
And then she would just double down and went, I'll kill every one of you right now.
And you're like, what?
And the Lord's of Terror were like, what the shit just happened?
How did this happen?
No.
This is the opposite of our plan.
You're like, I thought she was going to be easily controlled.
And she's like, I'll shoot you in the face right now.
Like, what time is it?
I just want you to know what I'm going to put on your autopsy.
But then, of course, the problem, I say, of course, the rhythm, what sucks is then she just gets bored back on Tara and just goes and leads some crusades.
Immediately.
Yeah, like, instantaneously takes it.
So she's like, you could make such a big difference.
She's like, I agree with you 100% and leaves immediately.
And the stories of her make her sound awesome because when she goes, it's called the Philosopher's Belt, which is a dumb name.
But anyway, and it's part of the Indominus Crusade.
And there is just a ton of enemies of mankind.
And she's out there leading from the front, like out there.
She kicks the shit on people.
Well, and she may be a saint in all candor.
If you look at some of the stuff that she does there, I could see GW shifting her to being a scene.
I actually think Brad theory again, I think the reason on the table people with her get re-rolls is because of the fact that she has a psychic connection.
to the emperor again.
Yeah.
She gives power to the people she's with.
Oh, yeah.
When you read the books and you read the,
again, read the book and you read the codex,
she's very saint-ish, is what I would say.
I really think that she has,
I think she has, she's war power.
She's immaterial power, but it gets a bad thing.
Yeah.
And so she's, but that being said,
if you want to read the book, read the book,
it's just,
well,
the codex is better than the book.
The Codex is my, you know what, screw this.
You know, we're going to go to my...
She's a good...
How about this?
We're going to go to somebody that I'm going to fanboil like a madman on.
Oh, really?
I know he Celestine.
I love St. Celestine so much.
I don't know that.
Okay.
All right.
Well, anyway, we'll do St. Celestine.
Now, St. Celestine...
She's a proper saint is why I think.
Yeah, well, she does have wings.
She's also the first in the game.
Oh, the first on the table.
On the tabletop, she's the first saint.
Yeah.
She just, this is when I think St.
Oh, St. Celestine's one of the best written parts of the sisters.
She's just so good.
Yeah.
So let's dive into Brad fanboying.
I am.
I'm going to let John talk about it.
Then I will come in excitedly everyone's going.
Sometimes GW writes really well.
This is one of the ones that they did.
So no one knows the full origins of St.
Celestine.
All we know is at one point she became a repentia for the order of our martyred lady.
That's all we know.
While as a repensure, they had a massive battle.
and she's found dead at the end of the battle
with over a hundred enemies that she had killed.
By herself.
Yeah, all around her.
They bring her back to give her to kind of do last rights,
so to speak, and bury her.
And as they're cleaning her up,
they notice that she's actually not dead,
that she does have some life there.
So then they start wiping all the blood off her
and they discover that she has no wounds on her body at all.
And then she sits up, like, Undertaker style.
She's also like...
It's my breed's undertaking.
She's also a juiced up at the point.
She's effectively perfect at that point.
She has no injuries.
No injury.
No injuries.
She just sits up.
And then the next day, she's back fighting again at, again, the front of the battle line.
This one, she just survives.
And this continues.
Battle after battle after battle.
Celestine is in the dead front taking all the shots and just going, yeah, I don't care.
But let's talk about her.
Let's talk about what she does on the tabletop.
In the tabletop, Celestine can get.
killed and on a two plus on a six-nighted die yeah she gets back up with full wounds yeah 84% of
the time she gets back up and goes I yeah what I didn't hear no bell yeah what what else you
got and to me and this is why I'm just fan buying I love and this is OPE this is almost this is
anime style yeah but I love it because it's if for me this is what a saint is this is a in times of need
my OP HQ shows up.
And she buffs the stuff around her.
And that's where in the lore,
this is where again,
as we've discussed before,
with Lauren Tabletop lineup,
it's usually bad for the game,
but it's actually exciting to read.
So she in this like campaign of battle
that she was on,
ends up leading the crusade
because all the,
all the Ecclesiarch priests are like,
yeah, let's let her be in charge.
She's Joan of R times 1,000.
Yeah.
But what's cool is that while leading the crusade,
She just does this random detour.
She's in a system door to this random planet.
No one knows what else is going on.
And she finds this ancient crypt.
And she just walks into the crypt.
And everyone, it's like, and.
And she shows up with legendary armor.
Yeah.
It's definitely orange, which is most games legendary.
Yeah, it's a D&D quest.
So she then comes out of the crypt.
And there was, and she's wearing the armor and carrying the sword of a saint named St.
Catherine.
St. Catherine is obviously long dead.
St. Catherine is one of the women who was with Alicia Domenica when she met the emperor.
She's one of the leaders of the original orders.
Exactly.
And St. Catherine, what's interesting about her is that, you know, she died.
Before she died, she hid her armor and her sword.
And it was meant to be at some point the savior of a...
Well, it's a prophecy.
It's one of the prophecies.
And she fulfilled all the ABCs of the prophecy.
So Celestine comes out wearing this armor, which is why she glows.
in all imagery.
It's because she's wearing this armor.
Well, also, she has wings.
There's also the wings do help.
The wings make her subtle.
And so Celestine wearing this,
she's now a true saint,
and she goes on to lead a bunch of campaigns.
What's funny, though, is that then she dies.
Celestine gets killed
while fighting a Chaos Marine Warmaster
who literally dead-
I was just about to say.
It's not like he,
Queensberry rules to her.
No, he blew up a nuclear bunker.
that she was leaning on.
Yeah, he handed her the bomb and then pushed the button.
Yeah, she was next to it.
So she is dead, except anyone listening to this cast is going,
Nilelli played against her last week.
Like, she's not dead.
And that's because all of the stories of her dying actually predated,
and I actually don't know when they brought the model back.
I think it was less than 10 years ago.
Yeah.
So then they brought the model back.
I saw this.
Like, what, eighth edition?
Or it was first?
Yeah, first edition.
No, it was the first edition, but like, so she was...
It was third.
Third edition, then gone.
And then they came, and I think it was eighth edition.
It's got to be eight because the model quality has got to be eighth.
I'm going with eight because it's seventh edition.
The models didn't look that good.
So she was, how about this?
When they started pushing the story four, which is eighth edition.
Yeah.
Eighth edition was when we had 30 years of status quo.
Now we're moving on.
Fall of Kadia, Celestine shows up.
So in the fall of Kadia, she reappears.
while this is like this is before abadden breaks the planet so abadon or abadon whichever way i'm
oh i'm going the donald yes it's abadazzo well abadon is is invading cadia and kind of invasion
this is like his 11th invasion of cadia but it's part one of this whole invasion he's actually
making a lot of ground and blasting through the defenses out of nowhere celestine just falls out of the
sky with five full companies of battle sisters who disappeared 14 hundred years before.
It's all people that were lost for over a thousand years.
They all appear at once.
And just, and Abadon doesn't go well for him.
Well, he also didn't go, hey, are you going to have mysterious people come from out of
no order?
Comes out of nowhere and she fights them off.
Now, she successfully, this unfortunately does lead to Abadon's using of the Blackstone
Fortress to correct.
the planet. He did say, you know what, this is nonsense. I'm pretty done with you.
This is dumb. I'm out. Stop this. But, and we're going to do more in the fall of Katie in the future,
because it's actually really interesting. But after the Katie of Fall, Celestine ends up joining
call to go resurrect Gilliman. She gets weirdly roped into this. Her stories, this is why I can offend,
She's in so many other people's cool stories.
And they did a good job with her because they bring her back.
And it's kind of like whereas prior saints, like literally, they kind of, they flame out.
Celestine doesn't.
Celestine becomes this actually, she's the go-to.
Yeah.
So she then helps call bring Gilliman back to life.
Then she helps Gilliman get from Ultramar to Terra.
And then she actually sits with Gilliman to help decide with the future of the
Imperium's going to be, which I do think of like, this is me having a weird sense of humor.
But imagine like, so it's going to be Gilliman, it's going to be Celestine, it's going to be Trajan.
They're all probably in a room.
And some, I just like that someone opening a door looking in there and there's a woman with wings and glowing eyes.
You know, Trajan and then whatever the hell Gilliman looks like at this point and just going, yep, nope.
Or even better story, be a lord of terror, like, I have an opinion.
trying to walk in that room.
Let's be honest.
Gilliman always looks like Augustus, but continue.
That's fair.
Yeah.
One of my favorite stories about her, though, is later on,
she's fighting an incursion against world leaders,
and Carn the Betrayer, yes, he will do a world leader cast.
You don't have to ask, obviously we'll do it,
cuts her head off.
Actually, he beats the hell out of her.
He rips her wings out of her back,
beats her borderline to death, and then cuts her head.
I was saying he doesn't just,
you made it sound like he just walked up and cut her head off.
Nope.
Yeah.
She gets pummeled.
Yeah, which is a weird one because it's kind of a cool story.
That's why it's to cover it later.
Like, Celestine's one of the best fighters and all the Imperium.
And Carn the Betrayer was just like.
Trucks there.
But Carn's also Carn.
So, Carn's gone.
And we will cover that.
Carn's a badass.
Carn can fight.
So Celestine, though, is not this.
They write this.
I'm losing my fan boy on this because it's cool, but it's not cool.
Because it's straight up old school.
This is 80s.
movies. She has to go, she loses
her memory, Annesia style, and then she
has to go, then she has to go to the dojo.
Yeah. So she awakens
in the warp. Don't tell us where,
but just somewhere in the warp.
In a dojo. Yeah, with no memory.
And she does, to Brad's point, she
finds some spirits who then
train her, and she starts gaining her
memories back. I feel like you're not
going to say dojo. She goes to a
spirit dojo, has an 80s
montage video, which I'm assuming,
survivor plays, and then she gets all of her powers and her memories back after training with
the spirit mojo in the dojo.
And then rejoins the materium, at which point she gets killed again, and reawakens in the warp.
Now, the reason this sounds stupid, but the reason I actually do like this is that this is probably
what ends up happening every time she dies and gets resurrected.
It's just the warp time and the warp moves differently, because there are stories of her
being killed and then getting right back out.
And so,
but what happens is she may have just been in the warp for like 20 years.
Yeah.
Yeah,
just regained every time she does like 80s montage video.
Mm-hmm.
But she does do that.
Like every time she's like, you're the best, the best, the best.
I do, I like this from a writing standpoint because it at least gives you an idea,
like, so how does this work?
But also, that's the thing is how the warp works.
She rises back like a demon.
That's how demons come back.
And by the way, it's not because, again, demons are using imiterium.
The imaterium is not bad.
The imperium's just power.
Now, there is another key member of kind of the sister's lore, who I'm going to admit to now and tell you we're going to cover later.
And that's Ephrail Stern.
Oh, I'm sorry.
You mean the one that stole the Eldar model?
Yeah.
The Friel Stern, I like a lot.
But I'll be honest, telling her story without some of the Yanari stuff will be really hard.
I've got a pretty big frowny face on right now.
Brad is not like Friel Stern.
Nope.
But I do.
Also, no new Eldar models in 20 freaking years at this point.
And then we get a new Eldar model.
And it's a sister's crony.
Yeah.
It's a henchman.
Screw you.
All right.
I'm less mad about that.
But that being said,
Friel Stern,
I'm just going to call it out right now.
We're not going to cover her here.
And it's because as we cover other parts of the storyline,
especially when we spend some time talking about,
like the Yonari timeline.
She's really helpful for that.
She does do some bad ass shit in that.
So with that, you know,
we're going to kind of call this.
This one's gone a little bit longer than I thought it would go.
So, yeah, we're going to finish this up.
Next week, we're going to jump into Jukari,
where it's.
Woo, yeah.
GW effectively went, hey, remember dark elves from fantasy or any fantasy?
What if we made them extra messed up?
How about we make them horrible?
and awesome.
Yeah.
This next one's going to be three casts.
I'm warning you now because we're doing Eldar
and you're about to hear Brad and I fanboy.
Also, the first cast is going to be me
waiting for the second and third cast.
Yeah, fair enough.
All right.
So until next week,
this has been John Bar Sadi and Bradchester.
This guy.
