The Blindboy Podcast - Avocado Salt Bae and the Legend of St. Patricks Hole
Episode Date: March 16, 2022St.Patricks day episode. Boiling hot takes about the Irish cultural footprint. Exploring why Salt Bae speaks English with a Limerick accent. And unearthing the legend of St Patricks hole where Pilgrim...s have seen Purgatory for a thousand years Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Rip the skin from a Vincent, you diligent Fintans.
Welcome to the Blind Boy Podcast.
My voice sounds slightly different this week
because I was over in Portugal smoking fags
like a fucking idiot.
I couldn't resist it.
I couldn't resist the cigarettes in Portugal.
They were like three euros or whatever the fuck
and like I don't smoke cigarettes in Ireland.
I haven't really smoked cigarettes in two years.
One of the only things out of lockdown that I like
is I wasn't smoking cigarettes whenever I had a drink.
But I went over to Portugal to do a bit of writing
and those Portuguese cigarettes were irresistible
because I don't know what it is, and I think this is a common thing.
When you go abroad
and the cigarettes are like
two quid
your brain just says to you
it's not really smoking
you're in Portugal or you're in Spain
this isn't really smoking
well it is really smoking
and was it worth it?
no it wasn't worth it
I smoked 16 cigarettes
and threw the last four over a bridge
and remembered why they're awful.
Smoking 16 cigarettes feels like
climbing up, climbing up the side of a house,
going onto the roof and fellating the chimney.
That's what, that's what it feels like.
And that's what it's done to my nasal passages.
One week later,
if you were following my Instagram
you'll know that I've been in Portugal
on a writing trip
I got shit faced
on Sherry and nearly got
hit by a tram because I was
following a dog
I saw this dog, he was like a great
Dane and I followed him
trying to interview
the dog
because I got it into my head that he was the mayor of Portugal
I went to the city of
Porto and I slept
in the attic of a 14th century
warehouse that was once used
to store salted cod
and I got frightened by a bright orange spider
that was hanging from the rafters
and I was drinking cocoa in bed
and I spilled the cocoa in bed and I spilled the
cocoa all over the fucking bed sheets
then I had to
I had to write a drunken
message to the Airbnb host
that I didn't
shit all over the bed
that it was in fact cocoa
and it was one of those messages that I
should have just
fucking waited until the morning I just fucking waited until the morning.
I should have waited until the morning.
And just taking the bed sheets off the bed.
They didn't need to get a 4am text to say that I spilled cocoa in the bed and it's not shit.
Because I got startled by a fucking bright orange Portuguese spider that was hanging from the fucking rafters.
And then the next morning I was looking at the message going,
fuck's sake.
And they just sent a message back going,
that's no problem, just leave the sheets out and we'll replace them.
And then I didn't know what to say,
so I asked them if they knew what breed of spider it was.
They didn't write back to that.
What the fuck was I doing drinking cocoa in bed? I don't even drink cocoa. I asked them if they knew what breed of spider it was. They didn't write back to that.
What the fuck was I doing drinking cocoa in bed?
I don't even drink cocoa.
I don't think about cocoa.
I have no time for cocoa.
I was after drinking a lot of that super bock.
Portuguese lager.
Which was alright.
It's fizzy.
What does it taste like? It tastes like a very stressed out pint
of San Miguel, it's the only way
I can describe it, it's San Miguel
but there's something extra
in there and that extra thing that's in there
it's not pleasant
it's like the pint is trying to warn you
about something
so that's my review of Superbac
Portuguese Lager, but yeah
I came back to the 14th century attic.
Shit-faced on Superbock.
Absolutely starving, because everything was closed.
And in the apartment, under the sink,
there was a tin of cocoa and pre-pandemic chocolate rice cakes.
So I launched into that.
And then it ended badly,
as soon as the bright orange Portuguese spider turned up
but it was worth it
it was all worth it because
I wrote a short story
that I'm incredibly happy with
and came up with
three or four ideas for new short stories
so my mojo is back
my flow is back
and I'm very happy with that because I had desperate writer's block over the period of lockdown. Really, really bad writer's block. Because I bed. That's the chaos of existence.
That's the chaos and spontaneity of being alive
that inspires creativity in me.
The conflict of that, the conflict of it,
will always travel into my unconscious mind
and then find its way up a couple of weeks later
as a story of some description.
I think I'll write that on the Airbnb review of the place that I stayed in. But you know what else is mad? I got recognised
three times in Porto from my vice. Once when I asked a group of Welsh people where the
nearest late pub was and they heard me and immediately just said, are you blind boy?
and they heard me and immediately just said are you blind boy and then I was in a bar and a fucking Portuguese waitress took my order and then she recognized my fucking voice she wasn't
Portuguese she was Brazilian her name was Marta and then I asked her how the fuck how are you
recognizing my fucking voice and the answer she me, and I kind of predicted it,
she said,
my English teacher was Irish
and she recommended that we listen to your podcast.
And I've listened to it every week since then.
And then Marta in Porto gave me a free pint of Superbac
because she listens to the podcast,
but she's never become a patron.
So thank you very much to Marta in Porto,
if you're listening. I appreciated the direct action patronage and I wasn't expecting that to be honest like I knew
the podcast has grown quite a large bit internationally over the pandemic but I
wasn't expecting people in Portugal to recognize my voice but a huge amount of Irish people teach English abroad and quite a lot of them recommend my
podcast to their students because if their students are advanced English speakers it's like
well don't listen to American stuff don't listen to English stuff listen to this fella here from
Limerick and if you can understand him then your English is pretty good so I get
quite a lot of international listeners from that alone oh by the way I am gigging in Madrid and
Barcelona in May and they're nearly sold out so we'll be adding extra dates but this specific
topic fascinates me a lot right there's loads and loads of Irish people teaching English to people as a second language
which means that there has to be a lot of Portuguese people, Brazilian people, Spanish people, Vietnamese people
who because they have Irish teachers now speak English with an Irish accent. And the reason I'm fascinated with
this is something in particular piqued my interest during the week. So there's a Turkish restaurateur
by the name of Salt Bae. Now you probably know who Salt Bae is. He's a walking internet meme.
he's a walking internet meme. Salt Bae, he became famous about four years ago because he was at a restaurant in Dubai, I think it was. And Salt Bae, he pours salt on your steak
in a very extravagant way. And someone took a video of this and it went very viral. And then
the internet decided to call him Salt Bae. Salt because he's putting salt on food and Bae because he's a good looking man.
Now he's become really famous since because Salt Bae has started opening up restaurants
most recently in London where people go to Salt Bae's restaurant and they spend a lot of money.
So Salt Bae in the past like month
has gotten particularly famous online
because the prices at his restaurant
are so fucking expensive.
If you go to Salt Bae's restaurant for a steak
you can expect to pay maybe two grand or three grand.
So that makes his restaurant incredibly exclusive.
Only people who can afford to pay that amount of money are going to his restaurant.
But food critics have gone there and they've said,
the food isn't even good, it's not worth this money.
So why are people paying three grand to eat at this cunt's restaurant?
And the reason is, they're paying for the internet meme.
So what happens is, you're incredibly wealthy you sit down
you order your steak and then salt bae himself comes out and he sprinkles salt on your steak
in a very extravagant fashion while your friend videos it for instagram so what you're paying for
is not the food but you're paying to prove the internet that you were there and that you can
afford it and that you've become part of the internet meme it's exclusivity now also he does
a ritual so he not only does he pour the salt on your steak he sticks a very sharp long knife into
it and he feeds the person the steak on the end of a sharp knife while they
expose their throat. Now I've done a hot take on this on the podcast called Hot Cheesecake.
I believe that really what Salt Bae is providing is it's a safe space for incredibly wealthy people
to confront their unconscious fear of being beheaded by the guillotine via the proletariat that's what
i think they're doing it's an execution ritual i think salt bay is also drawing from the long
tradition of the turkish barber or when you go to a turkish barber they cut your beard with a
cut throat razor you have to expose your throat there's a lot of threat there there's the chance
of you dying there's a flirtation with mortality
but with Salt Bay it's
it's rich people, generationally rich people
going oh fuck
what if someday the peasants
rise up and they behead me
like they did to my great great grandfather
and I think that's what Salt Bay is all about
but if you'd like to hear that hot take in depth
go to my podcast Hot Cheesecake
from a few months ago but Salt Bay is,'s from Turkey. He's a Turkish restaurateur. From what I've read he
doesn't speak very good English. He's only learning English at the moment. So when you see Salt Bae
it's almost like Charlie Chaplin. He doesn't speak he just performs these extravagant movements where he sprinkles salt on steak and he
looks kind of ridiculous when he's doing it and this is the allure of Salt Bae. Imagine my fucking
shock this week when I found a clip of Salt Bae speaking English and he speaks English in a
fucking limerick accent specifically when he says the word avocado.
Now I couldn't believe this when I heard it.
I really couldn't believe it.
When I heard this clip, I assumed that someone had overdubbed it in a limerick accent.
Then I double checked and I'm like, no, this is Salt Bae's official fucking Instagram.
And then I went and looked more and I found more videos of him pronouncing the word avocado in a limerick accent.
And the thing is, this is a couple of videos, lads.
It's not like a little bit of a monster accent. You couldn't confuse it for a Tipperary accent or a Clare accent or a Cork
accent. Salt Bae speaks English in a thick Limerick City accent. He's from Turkey. What the fuck is
going on? I'll play you a little clip. This is Salt Bae, the famous internet meme, saying the word
avocado. I'll describe the video first. It's a short video.
The first thing we see is the outside of a fridge freezer, a walk-in fridge freezer. The door opens.
As the door opens you are immediately confronted with the spectacle of Salt Bae. He is holding in
his arm a tray of avocados. Then he opens his mouth and he says, Avocado!
What the fuck is going on there?
Why is a man from Turkey
speaking in a Limerick City accent?
It's not a Cork accent.
It's not a Kerry accent.
It's not a Tipperary accent.
That is a Limerick City accent.
Like, I don't even say avocado like that. Like I've got a limerick accent but I have
kind of a neutral limerick accent. He's speaking in a particularly thick very specific limerick
accent. Like the way he stretches his vowels is very specifically limerick city. Like I'll say avocado and then someone from Cork might say avocado but he goes
for avocado and that vowel avocado that's only Limerick City. Like that's a Limerick City thing
that people do with their vowels. I've never been able to fully explain it like i said with cork it's
avocado there's a melody there the cork accent has a melody to it because i think it's because
cork has so many hills because cork is so hilly when they speak their vowels they almost
it's almost musical avocado but we don't have we're flat in Limerick, so we go, avocado.
Like a Limerick person sounds like a Cork person who's just received some upsetting or urgent news.
Listen again.
Avocado.
Who showed him that?
Who showed him that specific way to pronounce avocado?
Like, I have a rubber bandit sketch from about 10 years ago called
The Rubber Bandit's Guide to Madeira Cake, where me and Mr. Crone make a Madeira cake. And I say
that in order to make a Madeira cake, you need to start it with a copper pipe. But in this sketch,
I say the word copper pipe in a very specific Limerick way. I say, cup of pipe. Or if you hear someone in limerick say,
are you getting into the car? They might say, are you getting into the car? It's like we're
trying to achieve the climactic melody of cork, where the cork accent rises up in melody. It's
like we can't do it. So instead we go sideways sideways i'm not letting you into this car you're not getting into this car you've no copper pipe you've no avocado
muck away out of it you're only a goal now that's not like everyday parlance in limerick you won't
hear that all the time but it's it's a specific sideways speech that happens when a limerick
person is distressed or specifically giving instructions
or anxiety they think i'm after doing a shit in the bed and it's only a lot of cuckoo
it's like the doppler effect you know when an ambulance goes past you or if a motorbike goes
past you and it's the sound that it makes as it goes off into the distance that's the limerick
accent because we have flat planes you just see see people walking away. Whereas in Cork, people climb things.
They climb the hills.
They've control over the melody.
You're not getting into this car without a copper pipe.
You've no avocado.
Fuck off you Cork cunt.
I'm getting into the car.
I've got five avocados and two copper pipes.
The limerick accent gets blown away by the wind.
And the Cork accent is protected from the wind by all the hills.
blown away by the wind and the cork accent is protected from the wind
by all the hills. But those
sideways windy vowels
that you get in the limerick accent
they're a fantastic
musical instrument particularly in
rap music. There's
a limerick rapper called Hazy
and he makes fantastic use of those
runaway vowels. Sounds like if
Tom Waits and Cypress Hill fucked a dog
in and had weird little skin puppies
but what I need to know is, why is
Salt Bae talking
like that, why is a
Turkish restaurateur
speaking with
in a very specific
Limerick City accent, I need
to know the reason, I need to know
the reason and I need to know
is Salt Bae receiving English
lessons from somebody from Limerick I need to know that and I have a strong suspicion
that this is why unless all Turkish people pronounce the word avocado like avocado it's just maybe it's just an anomaly
but I've got a buddy I have a buddy in Spain who's an English teacher and he's from Limerick
and he'd have kind of a neutral Limerick City accent like myself and I've spoken to him about
his his Spanish students who learn English from him. And one issue that they have is,
so they pronounce the word one, like one.
Because in Limerick, one is one.
One, two, three, one.
But these kids are Spanish, and one is a Spanish name.
So now they're going around the place counting,
and you've got all these kids in Spain now saying Juan
Juan, like they're from Limerick
something I'd like to point out
also is
my Salt Bay
observation, my Salt Bay
hot take, if you've been
on Instagram this week or you've been on TikTok
you may have seen this hot take
already, you may have seen a page
called Ladbible, make this very hot take, you may have seen this hot take already. You may have seen a page called Ladbible. Make
this very hot take. You might have seen Ladbible sharing a video of Salt Bae saying avocado with
text underneath that says OMG Salt Bae sounds like he's from Limerick when he says avocado.
Laughing crying face emoji. So if you're thinking that I stole this hot take from Ladbible
I didn't. What happened was
I posted it. I made the observation
on Saturday and then Ladbible
decided to post a video
pretending that they came up with it.
Because that's what Ladbible do because
they're arseholes.
They're buttheads.
Jesus Christ.
They've done that to me about nine times over the past decade. I don't
understand it. Just credit the person. Just credit the person. If you're going to be taking content,
you still get the same amount of views. You can still have your video. You can still have all of
that. Just credit the person. What's the point in pretending that you came up with it? I don't get
it. It's not like I can copyright the observation. It not like I can sue them and then I call them out and about a hundred other people
call them out and then finally what they do is they credit you in the comments with about nine
crying laughing face emojis and when Ladbible do that when they get called out and then they
finally credit the person in the comments and put
a load of laughing crying face emojis what lad bible are trying to do in that instant is they're
trying to pretend that they're an 11 year old boy i'm sorry blind boy i didn't know it was your video
when i i got the video and i put it on on the computer my mom my mom let me at the computer
and then my uncle john my uncle john was over and he gave me 40 euros for my confirmation when i put
the video up on the computer
and then I love the song that he did about the horseman
it was outside and they're trying to pretend
that they're an 11 year old boy
when they take accountability and it's like
you're not, you're multiple
adult men in your 30s
who try to
get away with not crediting
people if you can
you're legally registered as a business lad Bible.
You do brand deals with advertising agencies.
We know that you're not an 11 year old boy.
Laughing, crying face emoji.
And I hate having to point it out every time.
Because it makes me look pure petty.
Like I don't actually mind that someone is pretending that my observation is theirs.
That's not the issue.
It's that Ladbible as a platform is fucking huge.
Like they have millions of followers.
So I end up with loads of people.
Messaging me with Ladbible's posts.
Going oh my god blind boy have you seen this.
Salt Bae has a limerick accent.
Or worse.
And I guarantee it would happen if I didn't do this
disclaimer but worse someone listening to this podcast and then thinking that I nicked Ladbible's
hot take but if anyone does know who is teaching Salt Bay English I would like to know if it's a
limerick person doing it because this isn't the first time in history that that's actually happened.
In the late 1890s
the Russian Royal Family
so that was the Royal Family
of Russia before the Soviet Union
they all spoke
English in thick Limerick
accents because they had a nanny
by the name of Margaret Eager
who was from Limerick
and she taught
all the Russian royal family how to speak
English and this was the
Russian royal family that
ended up under the influence of
that mad lunatic Rasputin
the fella they couldn't kill
so this Margaret Eager one
from Limerick was probably
knew Rasputin and maybe Rasputin
spoke in a Limerick was probably, probably knew Rasputin and maybe Rasputin spoke in a
Limerick accent. So before the fucking Russian revolution, all the Russian royals spoke English
with a Limerick accent. And then even more bizarrely, when the Russian revolution happened
in 1917, right? So it became Soviet Russia and they overthrew the Russian monarchy. Lenin,
and they overthrew the Russian monarchy.
Lenin, Vladimir Lenin, who overthrew the monarchy and established Soviet Russia,
he spoke with a Dublin accent because he had learned how to speak English from a teacher that was from Dublin.
So, something I'd like to speak about in the podcast this week,
and it's a recurring theme on this podcast because i'm always fascinated
by what i'd call the irish cultural footprint the reason being it's it's saint patrick's day
this week patty's day as we call it or patty's day as the yanks call it and
patrick saint patrick's day is it's celebrated everywhere in the fucking world.
Like we're this tiny, tiny little country.
And we've got St. Patrick's Day.
Halloween is an Irish holiday.
I did a podcast a few months back exploring how the modern Western vision of what hell is.
Like this place in the afterlife of eternal fiery torture,
well that also comes from Ireland,
via an 11th century manuscript called The Vision of Knug Dallas,
which, who was an 11th century knight from Cork,
who managed to get himself knocked out for two days and he claimed
that he visited hell and he wrote about what hell was like in the 11th century and this manuscript
got passed all the way around the known world at the time until it ended up inspiring the
paintings of a painter called Hieronymus Bosch in the 1500s and Hieronymus Bosch is the person who first painted
gave us a visual representation
of what hell is like
the torture of hell
Hieronymus Bosch did this
but he took his visual inspiration
from the visions of a
a knight from Cork in the 11th century
so hell is basically Cork
but I'd like to speak this week about a place called
St. Patrick's Hall, which is a very intriguing site in Donegal. Which, when I investigated it
when I did some research, is more evidence of Ireland's fairly large cultural footprint than
our influence on modern thought and social constructs. But before I do that, let's have a little ocarina pause.
I don't have an ocarina this week.
Well, I don't. I'm in my fucking office.
And the ocarina didn't make it as far as the office.
I don't have a lot of things in this office that I can make noise with.
Do you know what I have?
I have a trinket that I mentioned on one of the earliest podcasts.
One of the first ever podcasts.
I have the mug of fragile masculinity. The mug of fragile masculinity is one of the most embarrassing things
that I own. Quite simply, all it is, is, it's like a thermos flask. It's a mug made out of metal,
and I put a pint of tea inside it, and it will keep the tea warm. For about 90 minutes.
In terms of practicality.
It's fucking amazing.
But I hate it.
Because I couldn't find.
A pint mug.
That's like a thermos.
That keeps my tea warm.
That just looks like a normal mug.
Instead this fucking piece of shit.
It's made by the company Stanley and it looks like it's for outdoor use and it's army green and it's got a carabine on
it for fucking tying to things. It's a mug that at all times says to me, you're a big strong man. You're a big strong man who can survive in the
outdoors with your hot tea inside in your fucking office. So that's why I call it the mug of fragile
masculinity. It's an embarrassing thing that I have that I must have so that I can have hot tea.
Otherwise I'll drink too much tea. So this will keep a pint of tea warm for 90 minutes.
In a traditional pint mug made out of ceramics I drink the tea too quickly and now I'm drinking
three pints of tea per 90 minutes which is an unacceptable amount of tea drinking so I need
to keep it warm in the mug of fragile masculinity. But every time I take a sip, it tries to enforce unhelpful constructs about my gender,
on me.
So let's have the mug of fragile masculinity pause.
I'll flick it.
On April 3rd,
You must be very careful, Margaret.
It's a girl.
Witness the birth.
Bad things will start to happen.
Evil things of evil.
It's all for you.
No, no, don't.
The first omen.
I believe the girl is to be the mother.
Mother of what?
Is the most terrifying.
Six, six, six.
It's the mark of the devil.
Hey!
Movie of the year.
It's not real.
It's not real.
It's not real.
Who said that?
The First Omen, only in theaters April 5th.
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Doesn't make much of a noise, because it's very sturdy stainless steel.
It's a great mug.
It's a fantastic mug.
It just doesn't need to be that
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Just keep my fucking tea warm
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I'm in Vicar Street.
I've got a very special guest.
It's going to be unbelievable crack.
It'll be a Tuesday.
Perfect night.
If you want to come to a live podcast,
have a magnificent night,
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be up the next morning ready for fucking work
with a clear head.
So I've got three Vicar Streets.
The one next Tuesday, and then i have two in april and i only had like two months to promote these gigs which is a small amount of time to promote those gigs because of the restrictions and
lockdown so please come along to those gigs in vicar street if you're in dublin they would be
unbelievable crack vicar street gigs are always crack i've three gigs down in Cork at the end of this month.
Opera House and two St. Luke's.
Currently I think there's only tickets left for one of those St. Luke's.
But do come along.
And then also.
Oh I forgot about this one.
On the 31st of March.
I'm in the University of Limerick doing a live podcast.
But that one's only open to students of University of Limerick.
So if you're going to UL and you want to come along to my live podcast in UL, I don't know where you get the tickets but they can't be too hard to find.
And I think the university is doing a concession on them as well.
I'm recording this podcast quite late. Not too late.
It's, what is it now it's 10pm, the reason
I'm recording this late is
in my office today
the barefoot accountant was
howling, howling in the
fucking corridor
em, if you've
been listening to this podcast you know that I'm recording
this in an office now and it's a shared space
and there's this accountant
who walks around barefoot on his phone screaming and he just had a bad day today and I could really hear what he
was saying I there's I think some computer or some system was broken but he was stressed out
barefoot howling screaming in pain and that made it difficult for me to record so I had to wait until
after five o'clock basically for everyone to go home and now I'm recording this in a big giant
office office complex on my own in the dark and thank fuck I'm not scared of ghosts because
there's a bit of a shining vibe it does have
that shining sense I'm just in this huge building of offices and offices and offices and several
stories and it's just me nobody else I think I'll go and have a howl I'll have a howl in the
corridors and scare the ghosts now I'm not scared of ghosts but there's always that part of yourself
isn't there there's always that part of yourself isn't there?
There's always that part of yourself that can.
No matter how old you are.
You can always freak yourself out.
Like everyone has to battle with that thing.
When you're a teenager.
You know when you're a teenager and you're walking home at night time.
And then the last 100 meters before your house.
You freak yourself out about ghosts or
aliens and there's no one around and then you decide to run the last 100 meters home and you
do it when you're 12 and it's okay then you get to 13 you're still doing it but then you're 15
you're 16 and for me it was when I was 16 And I'm like man you're still doing the fucking 100 metre dash at night time as soon as you get.
You gotta stop it.
You gotta stop doing that.
You gotta be a big boy.
There's no ghosts.
So I got rid of that.
I don't do it anymore.
But I could probably in this office complex.
I bet you I probably could freak myself out if I really wanted to.
Because this office
complex is, it's in the
heart of Limerick City.
And there's probably generations
of misery underneath my feet.
Limerick's an old city.
Limerick
goes back 1100
years. There's been massacres
and revolutions and famines
and cholera epidemics
all underneath my feet
so if there was a haunting
yeah I can't see why
some old mouldy ghost from the
14th century isn't wandering these corridors
something
about the modernity of the fluorescent lights
stops my ghost fear
when I'm here alone in the office complex.
As soon as I walk outside the door of my office and it's pitch dark in the corridor,
for like one second I'm like, oh shit, what if I see a ghost?
But then the sensors sense me and the fluorescent lights turn on and then the ghosts disappear.
And I can be a functioning adult once again.
But I tell you what.
Out of the hundreds of offices in this building.
If there's one other person here.
Who's also working late.
And they don't know that I'm here.
And I don't know that they're here.
If one of us makes a noise.
We are freaking the shit out of each other.
I had a buddy,
when I was in college,
he was from Cork,
and he got himself a job,
straight after his leave insert,
where he'd managed to freak himself out about ghosts,
so much,
that he developed an anxiety disorder,
because he had this job,
and this job sounds like purgatory,
it sounds like one of the most,
loneliest
torturous jobs I could imagine he was the only security guard on an
unbuilt multi-story car park at nighttime so it was this seven-story
multi-story car park with no walls and no lights.
And just like ladders instead of stairs.
And he had to go there at nine o'clock at night and then leave at eight in the morning.
And he had this tiny little cabin.
You'd think it'd be like, okay, grand, you just stay in your little cabin in the unbuilt multi-storey car park.
Just stay in your little cabin for eight hours and you'll be okay.
But no, that wasn't his job.
Every half hour, he had to climb in the pitch dark with a torch up ladders in this fucking multi-story unbuilt car park and he had to press a button on each floor
to prove that he was actually doing his job as a security man and every time he'd flash his torch
against the concrete pillars of the unbuilt car park every time he'd move his torch he'd see what
he thought was a ghost or a figure jumping out from the shadows until he eventually just started getting massive panic attacks every night
until he became afraid of ghosts.
And the worst thing about the whole experience is that
he lasted about three months in the job
and by the end of it he'd managed to save up 900 euros
and he spent the 900 euros on a floor length leather Armani jacket that he saw
on TK Maxx that he never wore and this was not a leather jacket man not even a regular length
leather jacket this fella wore tracksuits he didn't know how he did it. And the reason he bothered
is that he was so rattled from the anxiety that he wasn't making rational choices. This
was the money he was supposed to save up for first year of college and he couldn't even
sell it. He couldn't even sell it to a goth. Not even the goths in Cork wanted a floor
length Armani leather jacket. but that's what I think of
if I if I as an adult now manage to freak myself out about ghosts if I'm here alone in the office
I just start thinking about that floor-length Armani leather jacket and the idea of it is so
ludicrous and hilarious that it dispels any fear of ghosts whatsoever. But his story reminded me of
how purgatory is described.
It's described as a place of uncertain anxiety
where you're chased by demons
but always protected by angels.
But it's forever in between the two.
So it's a continual anxiety.
And we think of like the way we thought of hell as, you assume it's something in the Bible.
But there's no mention of hell in the Bible.
Hell doesn't exist in the Bible.
There's mention of dying and being somewhere where God isn't present and there's a loneliness.
But this idea of torture and fire
and demons
that's an Irish construct
that comes from that vision of Knug Dallas
that I mentioned earlier
but also I found out
that the vision of purgatory
that we have is also an Irish
construct
and it can be traced to a place called
St. Patrick's Hall called St. Patrick's Hall
and St. Patrick's Hall is in Donegal
and it was a place of Christian
pilgrimage, it still is
in the 11th and 12th century
St. Patrick's Hall was the
it was like the equivalent of going to Brazil
and doing an ayahuasca trip
people would go to St. Patrick's Hall because they believed that when they went It was like the equivalent of going to Brazil and doing an ayahuasca trip.
People would go to St. Patrick's Hall because they believed that when they went there they could experience purgatory.
So St. Patrick's Hall, also known as St. Patrick's Purgatory,
is a real place that you can visit now.
And it's on Loch Derg up in Donegal.
And Loch Derg is, it's a large lake, because it's a loch,
and in the middle is a tiny little island.
And in this island is St. Patrick's Hall.
Now when we think of St. Patrick, the legend of St. Patrick,
what did he do?
St. Patrick introduced Christianity to Ireland.
We don't know how fully true that is.
There was Christian monks in Ireland before St. Patrick.
But it's generally accepted that St. Patrick definitely popularised Christianity in Ireland.
It was something he wanted to do.
Some people say St. Patrick banished the snakes from Ireland.
Well, there was no snakes in Ireland.
But what some people believe that means is
that's a myth that was constructed by the Anglo-Saxons
because there was snakes in England.
There still is snakes in England.
And snakes are a metaphor for pagans.
So when they say St. Patrick banished the snakes from Ireland,
what I meant is that he converted the pagans to Christianity.
But this was a long process.
You know, Patrick coming to Ireland
and going to all the chieftains and the clan leaders in Ireland
and all the different petty kingdoms
and trying to convert these people to Christianity.
And he had quite some success, But it took a long time.
And where the legend of St. Patrick's Hall comes from.
Is.
So after Patrick.
Converted some Irish people to Christianity.
They started to revert back to their pagan ways.
And they started to go to Patrick and go.
This fucking Christ businessman,
you can't prove any of it.
You can't prove any of this shit.
They're just nice stories, but you can't prove it.
And Patrick started to get really, really discouraged
that when he gave the people of Ireland the word of God,
they would revert back to their pagan ways
and they wouldn't believe him
so God visited
St. Patrick
and said to him
alright Patrick
I'm going to tell you about a secret cave
go up to a place called
Donegal
and you're going to find a lake
and in this lake there's a little island
go into that island and you're going to find a lake. And in this lake there's a little island. Go into that island.
And you're going to find a cave.
Now go into that cave.
And you're going to see hell.
And any person in Ireland.
Who doesn't believe in Christ or the word of God.
You tell them.
To go to this little cave.
In the middle of the island.
In the lake in Donegal.
Tell them go down into that fucking cave.
And when they come back out,
they're going to believe.
They're going to believe in Christianity,
because they will see hell in that cave.
And that was St. Patrick's Hall,
a cave in Donegal,
where if you go there,
you can see, you can experience purgatory.
So basically you're down there,
and you're able to witness the tortures of hell without you actually experiencing them
and anyone who went down there had a harrowing experience it was a terrifying experience where
you're chased by demons but guarded by the angels and when you come out of the cave you're converted
and the cave is still there it was closed off in the 16th century but if you go to
saint patrick's purgatory now there's a basilica around it it's a little island that looks like
it has a church there but the cave is there you just can't get into it but what makes this so
important and why i'm interested in it and why I'm interested in the overall Irish cultural footprint and Western culture as such is just how influential the legends around St. Patrick's Purgatory shaped what we consider to be purgatory and hell and what we understand it to be so in the 11th century apparently a knight
an irish knight by the name of owen descended into the cave in dunny gall saint patrick's hall
and lots of descriptions of owen's experiences were written about as an example of what's called
irish vision literature and another example of this like I mentioned is the other 11th century
manuscript I mentioned the vision of Knug Dallas that night that went to hell but Owen went into
St Patrick's Hall and he experienced purgatory he was as soon as he went down the steps of the cave
he was dragged by his feet and I read you a little excerpt of this 11th century manuscript a translation the demons now hurried the night to the top of a lofty
mountain and showed him a large number of people of both sexes and different ages all were sitting
naked bent down upon their toes turned towards the north and apparently waiting in terror at the
approach of death suddenly a violent whirlwind from the north swept them away,
and the night with them, and carried them, weeping and lamenting,
to another part of the mountain into a cold and stinking river,
and when they endeavoured to rise out of its chilling waters,
the demons coursed over the surface and again sank them into its depths.
The night, however, invoked the name of Christ
and immediately found himself on the other bank.
So what you have is this piece of 11th century Irish vision literature,
which now we'd call science fiction, science fiction or fantasy.
This wonderful, beautiful piece of imaginative literature
about this knight called Een who goes down saint
patrick's hall and is protected by the angels and protected by christ but is witnessing the horrible
vision of hell so it's purgatory it's both heaven and hell at once and also they show him the wonders
of heaven and the fucking garden of eden and all this shit
but the vision of owen down saint patrick's hall in the 11th century was such a brilliant piece of
vision literature that it spread all over europe it spread everywhere because this is like a
blockbuster like let's not view this as a vision of fucking hell and view it instead as Irish monks, Irish
storytellers, Irish writers writing an incredible, beautiful, detailed, terrifying, imaginative
fantasy story that was so impactful that it got copied and spread all over Europe and it directly influenced Dante
because Dante is a 14th century poet from Florence and Dante is always credited with
the first description of hell Dante always gets the credit because he had Dante's Inferno which was it was a segment in his overall poem called the divine comedy but Dante is always
credited as this is the modern vision of hell and it was invented by Dante in the 14th century and
he was Italian Dante's lad bible basically Dante is taking all the credit for inventing the vision
of purgatory and the vision of hell with his poem, The Divine Comedy.
He's Ladbible.
All he's doing is taking ideas from brilliant Irish fantasy writing
from the 11th century and calling it his own.
Because you've heard of Dante's Inferno.
You've heard of The Divine Comedy.
These are in popular consciousness.
You haven't heard of The vision of Owen. You haven't heard of the vision of
Thug Dallas. But this is where it comes from. Dante was reading the vision of Owen and Dante
was reading the vision of Thug Dallas. So it was Irish, early Irish medieval literature
that went on to influence Dante, that went on to influence the paintings of Hieronymus Bosch and gave us our modern interpretation of heaven, hell and purgatory. of Irish culture. Whatever the fuck we have going on here,
going back 1,500 years,
we make very impactful art,
specifically literature,
that shapes Western culture.
But a strange thing happened around the 12th century
throughout Europe
concerning St. Patrick's Hall in Donegal.
So because the vision of Owen as a piece of beautiful literature,
as a piece of terrifying literature, had travelled so much and was being rewritten and translated
all around Europe, people who had money in Europe would read this terrifying story about
Owen's journey into the hall and they would become obsessed with it
because the thing is is that it was a real place this wasn't a mythical place there was a place
called Donegal and there's a lake called Loch Derg and there's an island in the middle of it
and in that island is a cave and you go into that cave and you see purgatory so what happened in the 12th century and going right
into the 13th 14th 15th century is very very wealthy people found themselves needing to go
there to cleanse themselves it's the only thing i can compare it to now is jeff bezos and those
cunts going into space you know the way now billionaires
want to go off into the abyss of space
they want to see the liminal emptiness
of outer space and look down at the earth
and only the wealthiest people can do this
and they're doing this because they have too much
they have so much they're anxious
and all they have too much they have so much they're anxious and all they have left
is to spend 20 million quid to go up onto a spaceship and look down at the earth what they
want is purgatory they say it's for science it's not it's spiritual they want to be up there and
you look in one direction and what you see is the beautiful glowing blue earth.
That's the Garden of Eden, that's heaven. And then you look in the other direction and
it's the empty black liminal nothingness of space, that's hell. And in that moment they
can confront their own mortality. And if you're not a billionaire but you're a millionaire
you can go to Salt Bae's restaurant and have him hold a knife to your neck
and if you have no money you can read a book called the road by karmic mccarthy that's what
saint patrick's hall was in the 12th century so you had all these noble families now traveling
to dunny gall but the thing is with dunny gall in fucking 12th century, it was seen as the edge of the world.
They didn't know about fucking America or anything beyond it.
Donegal was like the westernmost part of the world
and it was seen as a, to get there was a gruelling, terrifying, dangerous journey.
And if you're a wealthy prince from Florence in Italy or if
you're from the south of France you'll never have experienced that bleak barren cold terrifying
weather of Donegal freezing sideways wind and rain that cuts your face and imposing terrifying
mountains with fucking rocks picked off them that's a big deal in the 12th century
if you're from somewhere with decent weather
and all around
Loch Derg there were these harsh
rocks and stuff so all these rich
cunts would spend
months and huge
amounts of money getting
as far as Donegal
freaking themselves out along the way
and what would happen with the stress of the journey
is they'd get there,
they'd get to St. Patrick's Hole,
they'd go down there,
and like my buddy who was working on that fucking building site
and freaking himself out with the torch,
they'd go down the cave and they'd go fucking mad.
They would see demons.
They'd get panic attacks.
They'd feel in extreme danger.
They'd feel lonely.
They'd feel everything
that they don't experience
because they were so wealthy.
And they'd come out of it saying,
yeah, I went down to St. Patrick's Hall
and I saw hell and I experienced hell
and now I'm a to St. Patrick's Hall and I saw hell and I experienced hell and now I'm a changed man.
So this was the most gruelling hardcore pilgrimage that you had to do if you had money and you were
a Christian in Europe in the 12th or 13th century. You went down a cave in Donegal in the middle of
an island called St. Patrick's Hall and you saw hell hell you visited purgatory and people still do it today
you can do it now if you want but it's seen as the most hardcore christian pilgrimage that can
be done it's only for raving lunatics the only time saint patrick's purgatory stopped being popular
was i think it was the 16th century and some monk from the
Netherlands went to Donegal and went down the cave and he went when he went down there he was like
this is grand and then he went back to the pope and he complained that no demons attacked him when
he went down into St. Patrick's Hall but thousands of people still go there today and they go to the
banks of Loch Derg and the first thing they have to do when they get there is they have to take their shoes off and they have to walk for ages over real jagged rocks
until their feet fucking bleed and their feet bleed because the monks in St. Patrick's purgatory
today sharpen the rocks so that they do cut your feet and people go there to suffer mainly catholics they go there to actually
suffer so when you go on this pilgrimage to Donegal you're not allowed to eat there's no
eating if you fall asleep someone will wake you up it it's sleep deprivation people put themselves
into a sense of starvation and sleep deprivation. And the only thing that you can consume in St. Patrick's Hall
is a thing known as Lockdorg Broth,
which is hot water that's flavoured with salt and pepper.
And that's it.
So you spend your time not eating, not sleeping,
with your feet all cut up,
praying that God will forgive them of their sins
and trying to renounce the pleasures of the flesh
and torturing themselves.
And to be perfectly honest, if you do that
and there's enough people around you,
you probably will have a few hallucinations,
you will have a few visions,
you will see demons.
You'll put yourself into a situation
where you're buying a floor length
fucking Armani leather jacket and TK Maxx
so that's my hot take for this week
I proved in a previous podcast
that our understanding
our modern understanding of hell
is based on Cork
when our modern understanding of purgatory
is based on Donegal
and St. Patrick's Hole
and that's my little St. Patrick's Day podcast
a nice cheerful podcast
about St. Patrick's Day
if you're not doing anything on St. Patrick's Day
I'm going to be back on Twitch
I'm going to be back on Twitch
at half eight Thursday night
making some tunes
I'm not going to be drinking
I might so recently I was I was given a
recently I was given a can of stout by the Array Collective they're a group of artists and they
won this year's Turner Prize and this Turner Prize was an installation that contained several different objects
one of these objects was a can of stout
and they
gave it to me as a gift
and I'm considering
drinking this
can of stout
on my live Twitch stream
as a piece of performance art
because technically I'd be drinking
the Turner Prize
so I might do that but I will be on
Twitch this Thursday night at half 8
making up some songs
in a digital environment and having some
fun because I haven't been on Twitch
in two weeks and I'm looking forward to getting back
twitch.tv forward slash the blind
boy podcast if you're not doing
nothing on Paddy's day. I don't have a
Twitch song this week because
i'm not editing them fast enough i can make four songs in an hour but editing one song down to four
minutes takes about five hours so i don't have one this week but i'll be working on getting them
getting them together soon okay dog bless everyone have a wonderful week this week.
I'm going to be back next week
with a hot take.
A hot take or possibly a surprise.
I may be interviewing someone this week
who's a bit of a big deal
and if that goes ahead,
hopefully that's what I'll have next week
but I can't confirm whether it's going to happen or not.
But that's all I'll say. And also but I can't confirm whether it's going to happen or not. But that's all I'll say.
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