The Blindboy Podcast - Big Manky American Christian Fascists
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Before I begin, I have some exciting news.
I'm going to be doing a new tour of Wales, Scotland and England in a year's time in October
2026. Because I've already done a fucking tour. And that was a lot. So I need a year before I do
another one. However, there's a huge amount of cracking tens that listen to this podcast. So I'm
going to come back and do some gigs. So I'd like to announce my new tour of Wales, Scotland and
in England. I like that order. I like that order. Wales, Scotland and England in fucking autumn
2016
I'm going to be in
Brighton, the Brighton Dome
Cardiff in the
new theatre, Coventry
in Warwick Arts Centre,
Bristol at the Bristol Beacon
the Barbican Hall in London
can't wait to do the Barbican
Pavilion Theatre Glasgow
The Glass House in Gateshead
Fuck me, where the fuck is Gateshead?
The theatre
Royal Good old Nottingham
Maybe I'll see the Viking Museum this
I missed it the last time. Good old Nottingham.
Can't wait to get back to Nottingham.
Gateshead. I haven't a
fucking clue where Gateshead or what it is. I don't know
but I'm gigging there. That means there must be
there must be some 10 foot decklins in Gateshead if there's a gig
booked. I don't book these fucking gigs.
Clearly if I'm just hearing that a place called Gateshead
exists but
by fucking next year I'm going to be dripping in Gateshead.
I'm going to know everything about Gateshead.
Just like when I went to
Bex Hill
I'd never heard of Bex Hill before
but I gigged
That was a strange
fucking place that was
When I gigged in Bex Hill
I don't regret it
I don't regret it
It felt very pargatoryish
Actually I fucking love Bex Hill
What a weird place
I stood on the beach
Where William the Conqueror came
Where William the Conqueror came
And did a bit of 1066
I stood on that beach
I stayed in a very strange
an odd little hotel
a strange hotel where everyone
who worked there was like 16
and everyone who stayed there
was either me or an 80 year old
and then I nearly drowned
I went out to the beach
the William the Conqueror beach
in fucking Bexhill
and misjudged the tide
and the tide came in and I nearly died
but fuck it Bexhill was great
I'm not doing any gigs in Bexhill
but I'm glad I went there
Gateshead
I've got my eye on you
I don't know what you are
I don't have a fucking clue
where you are
but I'm gigging in Gateshead
right
on the 29th of October
2026
oh and I'm gigging in
Guildford
Guildford on the 24th of October
2026
Again I'd have a fucking clue
where Guilford is
but Guilford
Gilford's actually
quite special to me
because
and the only reason
I know the name
Gilford is when I was a child, a teenager, about 13.
I used to read a magazine called Viz.
My brothers had it a very funny comic.
And in Viz magazine, this is the 90s, they used to sell equipment for growing cannabis
and cannabis seeds.
And one of the shops you could order this stuff from was a place called Esoteric Hydro.
panics in Guilford
and I saved
up by about 13, 14 years of age
listening to Cypress Hill
fucking obsessed with Cyprus Hill
pure fucking autism
I'm sure I've mentioned this on a podcast
before there's a full podcast in this
I was obsessed
with Cyprus Hill
I was obsessed with the fact that they had
cannabis leaves on everything
you couldn't get
you could get hash
in Ireland but you couldn't get
weed. Weed was not a thing. Not in the 90s. Weed was a post-9-11 thing. When I was grown up in the
90s, there was hash. There was five spots. There was 10 spots. That was it. No one had
weed. Weed was something that I had to hear about on Cypress Hill rap songs. And I had to look at
weed leaves and I became obsessed with cannabis. Fucking obsessed. So, without incriminating myself,
I saved up all my money
I'd say for a year and a half
14 years of age
a year and a half
and I ordered from
esoteric hydroponics in Guildford
I ordered a mercury vapour light
for growing certain plants
and probably seeds as well
and a book I ordered a book called
The Marijuana Growers Guide by Mel Rosenthal
which had photograph
of cannabis plants on the inside, this is the 90s, there was no fucking internet, there was
nothing. But this, here's the thing, this wasn't like, just some bald teenager growing
cannabis, like it wasn't that. This was, this was undiagnosed autism. It wasn't even
about the cannabis. It was obsession. Fuck, I'm talking consistent, continual obsession about
cannabis, cannabis plants, how to grow them. And that book that I got, the marijuana growers
guide. It wasn't just a book about growing cannabis. I still have it. I still read it. It's one
of my prized possessions. It's not even a book about growing cannabis. It was a very, very rigorous
book about horticulture, about plants, about nutrients. And I fucking ate this book up. I would
read it every single day. I would retreat to my safe fucking space at home and I would read this book
and drink tea and listen to Cypress Hill
and it's one of those things
when I think back to being an undiagnosed
autistic child
so I was in junior search
so that means I was 1314
and I was not paying attention in school
and I was highly disruptive
and I was missing a lot of school
and I was failing everything
and then when it came to sitting
our actual junior search
on the day of the exam
I requested a paper
and it was a paper of it
it was a subject that was not being taught at my school
the subject was agricultural science
I asked for the fucking agricultural science paper
and the teachers
it probably wasn't the day of the exam
it might have been like a week beforehand or something
but the teachers were like
we don't study agricultural science at this fucking school
you don't even take the class
this is highly unorthodox
and I'm like I want to sit
agricultural science
for my junior cert
so they couldn't refuse me
so on the day of the exam
I fucking sat the agricultural science paper
and I loved it
I fucking loved it
not only
like the questions were about
I remember one question specifically
was about mulch
you know how to create a mulch
using bark and stuff
and another question was about
about legumes
which are plants that can take nitrogen from the air
and put them into the soil like clover and veg
and I answered every question on this agricultural science paper
and not only did I answer every fucking question
I wrote out sheets and sheets and sheets
A4 sheets I wrote voraciously
and stuff that wasn't even included in the exam
and I got the results came back
I got 100% I got 100%
in this agricultural science exam
and I failed everything else
not failed, they're probably past English
I'd have gotten an A in art
but I'd had a shit junior cert
I would have failed or barely passed
the vast majority of my other subjects in this exam
so when my results came back
of here's this highly disruptive student
they've failed everything
and then there's this agricultural science exam
and they're after getting 100
100% and we don't even teach this exam?
Like, do you think I was praised?
No fucking way.
I was dragged up to the principal's office.
I was dragged up to the principal's office and quizzed.
How did you cheat?
Why is this happening?
What type of trick is this?
What joke is this?
Why did you get 100% in an exam that we don't even sit in this school?
In a subject we don't even teach?
And I couldn't answer it.
I couldn't answer it.
The answer to the question was,
I have spent the past year and a half
thinking about nothing
other than how to grow cannabis
and may be doing it.
I can't say that.
But I have been thinking about nothing
other than how to grow cannabis,
how to...
What photosynthesis is?
How phosphorus, nitrogen, potassium,
how to make these things out of banana peels,
how to make your own.
I was obsessed with absolutely everything about growing plants, about horticulture, about growing cannabis, about cannabis itself.
I couldn't say that. I couldn't tell the principal. I couldn't say it. I couldn't say, well, I've actually haven't been paying attention in school. All I've been doing is listening to this band, Cypress Hill, who I'm fucking obsessed with and can't stop thinking about all the time, and reading about how to grow cannabis. That's all I've been doing for the past year. I don't think I'm able to do anything else other than that. When I do it,
that I'm really happy and I've been doing
most of it autodidactically at home
and this is how
I just got 100%
in a fucking exam
in a subject that
we don't even teach in this school
that's how this has happened I couldn't say it
I couldn't say it so
I just got in trouble
I got in trouble and
they couldn't outright accuse me
of cheating in the agricultural
science exam but
they kind of did because they
They certainly didn't shake my hand.
Like, if a student got 100% in any exam in the junior search,
you'd get a little pat on the back.
You might even get mentioned by the principal over the intercom.
I got 100% in one exam and they all just went,
he's after doing something mad, sneaky and wrong.
We don't know what it is and we can't prove it.
So just, let's just forget it.
And that story is very important for me,
knowing now as an adult that I am on.
autistic. That period, that incident in my junior cert, that's the one time in secondary school
where my needs were met as an autistic person. And I excelled. I got 100% in an exam. Why?
Because I was pursuing a special interest. At that time in my life, my special interest was
growing hash. It was growing cannabis. I understand that that's illegal. I know it is. But I was
obsessed. I couldn't stop talking about light bulbs. There was like I was mercury vapor, um,
fluorescent. I used to walk into light shops in Limerick asking questions about different types
of fluorescent whites, the light spectrum, cool white, warm light, warm white. I'd ask, I'd,
until they'd eventually figure out what I was coming in for. They would eventually, why is this
fella wanting the exact mix of cool white and warm white fluorescence to replicate?
the full spectrum of sunlight.
Oh, I know what you're doing.
I only want it to fit into a wardrobe is that I know
what you're doing and I'd get kicked out
and it's like, sorry
for making you on a competence of a crime here
but it's, this wasn't
about I want to grow hash
or I want to sell weed
or breaking the law.
It was obsession.
It was fucking legitimate
obsession with
growing cannabis.
I wasn't trying to be a drug dealer.
wasn't trying to break the law. Anything like that. It was curiosity, fascination and obsession
that I could not control and it just happened to be illegal. And it probably, it was probably
just tied in with that teenage rebellion thing and adoring and loving Cyprus Hill. Cyprus
Hill were this amazing rap group and all they all they rapped about was smoking weed and
growing weed. But I thought myself autodidactically. I was reading that book, that book,
which I still have, The Marijuana Growers Guide by Mel Rosenthal, that's college level.
That's a college level book about horticulture.
It's not easy to read.
It is not easy to understand.
It's a very serious book about botany and horticulture and gorilla gardening.
And when I was 14 and I was failing everything in school and I was in a class which was
the dunce class they would have called it
the dunce class
I don't think they do this in school anymore
but I was in the worst class
there was only like 15 kids in my class
and everyone who was in this class
were
children who basically weren't allowed into other classes
and in this class there was
when I look back
kids who were either nor
neurodivergent are experiencing the trauma of poverty, and that's who was in this class.
And it was tough going because being noradivurgent, being autistic, that meant that it was very easy to bully you.
And my way of not being bullied was to be insane, to be fucking mad, to be the most disruptive, fearless, rebellious, anti-authoritarian.
class clown
capable of absolutely
anything
smoking fags at the back of class
telling teachers to fuck off
literally everything
in order to survive to not be bullied
if you don't want to get bullied
in school especially if you're
in the class with other kids
that are troubled in some way
the way to survive
is you're either
able to fight
or able to make everybody laugh
because you're so crazy
so I went with
make everyone laugh because I'm so fucking crazy
but we're also teenage boys
so I had to pretend that I wasn't
I had to hide that I might have been smart
I had to pretend that I was dumb
I had no interest that I didn't care about learning
that I wasn't curious about things
but I couldn't turn that switch off
so instead what happened is
my curiosity had to intersect
with rebelliousness
my love of science became
taking fireworks apart, getting illegal fireworks,
taking them apart and making bigger fireworks,
or reading copies of a book called the Anarchist Cookbook
and learning how to make explosives from bleach,
which was really a curiosity, a love of science,
a fascination with chemicals and how you can actually make bombs from fireworks,
just get enough fireworks and put them together and you've got a fucking bomb,
you can blow up a bin.
You see, you're not a nerd.
you're not you won't be picked on and called a nerd
or called weird or strange
when your interests become
destructive and
troublemaking and
get your label as a mad bastard, a crazy fucker
and then the other thing was growing hash
I knew how to grow hash
I knew there's the starlings
the starlings have not left they're outside the window
what time is it here
26 minutes past seven in the evening
the starlings have just marmaraded past the window
it's raining outside and growing hash I was obsessed obsessed with growing cannabis
I wasn't even that I wasn't even a stoner it wasn't about weed it was a it was
about horticulture I was fascinated by horticulture I was fascinated by botany but growing
this plant and knowing everything about this plant that cypress hill talk about that's illegal
the fucking guards are getting involved if they find out that's
That fellow over there, you know, he's grazing mad,
Cunt him, ask him anything, he grows hash, he does,
he's got lights and everything in his wardrobe.
See, that makes you a legend.
That brings you social approval, approval from your peers.
And my peers were, like I said,
kids with dyslexia, dyspraxia,
are other kids who just grew up very, very tough
and their family might have been criminals,
and they themselves went on to become criminals.
So I channeled all my,
my curiosity and my voracious
the worst thing you could be called was a nerd
a SWAT or a nerd
was one of the worst things that you could be called
because we were in
the class was called 3B2
I think I spoke about it on a podcast
years ago
we were in the class for kids
who are unteachable
the kids who are very very bold
you get labelled by the teachers
we were seen as very bad
this was junior cert
the principal used to come in
the vice principal used to come in
and
they couldn't
they couldn't kick us out of school
because we were too young
but they would encourage us to not come back to school
next year when you were like 15
16 just leave school after your
junior cert don't worry about this leaving sir
shit that's not for ye
that was the career guidance we used to get
we were 13 14
it hurts to know that you're in that class
it hurts
to be separated from all the other students.
Like, why is that class only 15, 16 people?
Why is everyone in that class a fucking lunatic?
Like, we knew what that meant.
And it hurt deep down.
But when you're at that age,
you flip the heart around and you turn it into a badge of honour.
And the badge of honour, you become fucking Bart Simpson.
I'm a rebel.
You can't tell me to do anything.
Fuck teachers
Fuck the system
Fuck everything
I'm so bad
I can't even be let into a normal class
They have to put me over here
With that fella and that fella
And we smoke fags in front of teachers
That's what we do
You're over there
We smoke fags in front of teachers
And if the teacher tells us to put the fag out
We tell the teacher to fuck off
And the teacher leaves us alone
Because they've given up
And we sniff glue
We sniff glue through our school jumpers
And we set
fired to cans of deodorant in class. And sometimes teachers don't even fucking show up.
We've got free classes all day because teachers don't even show up because they know there's no
fucking point. And that's what I had in second year and third year in school. I know it's
fucking years ago and it doesn't matter now. But I'm just saying that's that's the experience
I had in school in my junior cert years because I was autistic and no one knew. But the wonderful
happy memories
that I have
from that time in my life
it's not being in school
it's being at home
listening to Cypress Hill
drinking tea
and reading about
how to grow cannabis
and reading about
this little shop in Guildford
off the back of a fucking magazine
called esoteric hydroponics
and ordering from him
a mercury vapour light
who was 90 pounds
and ordering
I won't say whether I ordered seeds off him
and ordering that book the marijuana growers guide
so I'm so happy to be doing a gig in Guildford
I can't just for that
just I didn't know I was going to be gigging in Guildford
I saw it on the list and I went holy fuck
I'm going to visit I can't wait to go to that shop
I never ever I'd forgotten about it
and when I saw the name Gilford on the list of fucking gigs
I went esoteric hydroponics
esoteric hydroponics
and I'm going to go into that shop
that shop
that sold
cannabis growing material
to a 14 year old
in the 90s
in limerick
and how did I even pay for it
I used to go to the bank
with cash
and get a money order
because I couldn't go to my parents
and like can I have a check
please da
here's some money da
can you can I
if I give you this money
will you write me a check
what's it for
I just want to buy these lights
for growing plants
over in England
is that like that's not going to happen
so yeah I've got a tour
of England Scotland and Wales
alright go to
Fane dot co dot you
Fain F-A-N-E
Fane dot co dot UK
forward slash blindbuy
and
you know if you are going to come to those gigs
get your tickets now because
they will sell out
even though the gigs
it's not for another fucking
year, right? This is, it's a year away. But go and get your tickets now, especially if I'm in your
area. I'm wondering if you can hear the sound of that rain. It's raining quite heavily on the roof
of my office and we're just going to have to welcome the sound in. It's not the worst sound in the
world, the gentle pitter patter of rain. But I just thought I'd name it in case you're wondering
what the fuck that sound is. It's rain, rain on a tin roof. But yeah, back the back.
that's what you had to do back then
you had to order things off the backs of magazines
I mean before the internet
but the internet was there but
you'd have had to go into an internet cafe
and pay money in a cafe to use the internet
that was the reality of the situation
so to order anything strange
such as what used they sell
they used to sell cannabis seeds
cannabis growing lights
legal highs
I think sex ties
Aphrodisiacs
this shit called Spanish fly
stuff that
you'd be embarrassed to walk into a shop to buy
but also they're not selling it in any shops that you know
like today now in Limerick
Jesus Christ they're selling dildos and duns
like they've got those Jurex
sex ties
beside the baby's nappies
in every supermarket
now. But even
fucking hell, there's about five
shops in Limerick selling lights
for growing cannabis and selling cannabis seeds.
Very, very easy to come by
now. But what got me thinking about
buying shit off the back of magazines
is
the Charlie Cark situation this
week. I'd like
an uninterrupted hot take
on this Charlie Cork situation
so what I'm going to do is I'll do an ocarina pause
now so that I'd have a feeling
it's going to be a bit of a long one.
so I'll do an ocarina pause now
I don't have an ocarina
some people are getting upset that I no longer have an ocarina
are trying to offer me ocarinas
let's just sit with the anxiety of it
I quite enjoy
having an ocarina pause every weekend
there's no ocarina I'm actually alright with that
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Everybody gets a podcast. I get to earn a living. This is my full-time job. It's how I rent out
my office. It's how I pay all my bills. This podcast is only possible because of listener
support, direct funding. I've just told you about that new tour. England, Scotland and Wales.
Got to Fane.com. UK forward slash blind buy. If I listed out any dates. Then what have I got?
Ricker Street is sold out
that's next week that's sold out
a few tickets left for Derry
on the 27th of September
and then after that
Halloween night up in Meath
at the Puka Festival
also I meant to say this
if you can access
BBC Radio 6
right I don't think you can hear this
in Ireland right
but BBC Radio 6 it's a music station
they
They asked me to make a music show about being autistic.
It's a radio, it's a radio series, music radio series and BBC Radio 6.
It's called grounding.
And it's presented by noradivurgent artists.
And we're talking about our experience of being noradivurgent and also playing music.
And the other artists are Emigine Thackeray, Afroditeite, and fucking gals.
Gary Newman. Like Gary Newman, cars Gary Newman, the pioneer of electronic music. He's autistic.
So I'm very proud to be in that company. But anyway, look, as you know, I'm a fucking music nerd.
I'm an absolute music nerd. Some of my earlier podcasts were about music. I had to stop doing music podcasts because I can't do a music podcast without playing you examples of the music.
And if I play examples of the music, the podcast would get taken down. So I had to stop making music podcast.
But anyway, this fucking radio show, grounding BBC Radio 6, they gave me six hours, right?
It's three episodes, two hours each of me playing music, speaking about music, speaking about the importance of music to me and speaking about being noradivurgent.
There was very little interference.
I got to make the radio show that I wanted to fucking make.
I've never been asked to do a radio show in Ireland ever
RTE no one
even with my podcast I don't know what the story is
I think they're scared of me
Radio 6 came to me and
said look do whatever you want
be as nerdy as you like with the music
speak about being autistic
so this radio show is called grounding
I'm incredibly proud of it
I'm so proud of this piece of work
all I want
what I want from this
more than anything. Obviously, I want autistic people to listen to it and to feel a bit more normal,
but what I really want is the Gorilla podcast hug. I'm aware that this is going out on BBC Radio 6.
I know that there's going to be people tuning in who've never heard of me, who are having a
fucking clue what's going on, and I want like a taxi driver in Bristol. I want someone working
work in a night shift to just have the radio on and then I lulled them into a relaxed
stage with some of the music that I'm choosing and then hit him with a few strange weird
hot takes and then make that person think that their radio is broken that there's what the
fuck am I listening to what the fuck is this and I really think I managed to do that with these
episodes because they gave me free rain they basically said look don't libel anybody and
don't curse, but other than that, be as weird as you want. This is two hours of being autistic.
Just go nuts. So I said, fuck it, I will. So look up BBC, Radio 6, grounding to get the full
programming of all the artists. And my episodes, my first episode is going to start next Wednesday,
next Wednesday the 24th, right? At 11 o'clock at night, my first episode, it's two hours of me speaking
about creativity and playing music that I feel inspires creativity.
So next Wednesday is the first episode, 11 o'clock at night, BBC Radio 6, grounding.
Then the second episode is going to be Thursday, the 25th of September.
And then the third episode is Monday the 29th of September.
And again, if you're living in Tanland, then you should have no problem accessing this
and listening to it on the fucking player or whatever you do over there.
I don't think anyone can hear it here in Ireland
there might be a way with VPNs
and
I'm not promoting the use of cannabis
even though I just
if I was living in a country
or it was legal
I would listen to these shows
with a little gentle joint
because the combination of
the way that I'm speaking
what I'm speaking about
and the music
it just works perfectly with that
not promoting anything illegal
just in case someone in Canada maybe
wants to listen to it
The rain is no joke out there tonight lads
It's battering off the window
It's battering off the roof
I haven't been able to put a limiter
On my voice tonight
We just have to go
Look, it's fucking raining
The continual sound of rain on the tin roof
As part of the podcast this week
We're just going to have to deal with it
And as background noises go
it's not the worst.
There's a peacefulness to it.
Okay, let's talk Charlie Kirk.
So Charlie Kirk was murdered this week.
Charlie Kirk, if you're listening to this in the future,
was a right-wing,
an American right-wing Christian nationalist
with far-right views.
And he was given a talk on behalf of his
organization
Turning Point USA in Utah
and he was shot dead
he was shot dead
we don't know
as if someone arrested
we don't know why he was shot dead
can't say for sure why
it was either
it could have been
one theory is that it was
grippers which are
that this is right wing
infighting
that a right winger shot Charlie Kirk
because he wasn't right
wing enough. Other theories
is that it could have been someone on the left
a leftist, someone
who disagreed strongly with Charlie Kirk's
very right wing views.
Or it could just simply be another
American school shooting.
And there is no great
ideological motive behind the shooting
of Charlie Kirk. It's just another
American school shooting
because the one thing we know
based on what we're told is
the person who shot him with one shot
left behind three bullet casings
but on these bullet casings
I can't even remember what was written into them
the messages are incredibly obscure
and hard to decipher
so one message I remember is like
I think it says catch this fascist
which on the surface you'd think
oh okay this person is an anti-fascist
but then you look deeper
and you realise that
no, that's a quote
from a video game called
Hell Divers 2
so it might have nothing to do with fascism at all
it's very confusing
but one thing's for sure
is that
Charlie Kirk is being turned into a martyr
by the Trump administration
and by the American right
and that's quite
frightening
because the
fear is that his murder will be used to justify further authoritarianism. The White House deputy
of staff, Stephen Miller, is a very frightening individual because he's quite overtly right-wing
and would appear to be a fascist with a, just that troubling record of racist opinions. So this fella
Stephen Miller, he's the fucking deputy chief of staff. This man has power. Today he has vowed vengeance.
for anyone online who
appeared to celebrate the murder of Charlie Kirk
he is referring vaguely to terrorists
he's saying the terrorist organizations
he said this so JD Vance
who's the fucking vice president of America
right J.D. Vance
he hosted an episode of Charlie Kirk's podcast
because Charlie Kirk had died
Vance on this episode, this was yesterday, basically said that liberals, people identifying as liberals are largely to blame for the political violence.
Then he brings on Stephen Miller, who's a scary fucker, and then he says Stephen Miller starts saying that this is a vast domestic terror movement.
And it appears that who he's talking about, he's talking about liberals. He's talking about anti-fascists.
He's referring to these people as domestic terrorists.
And this man who's in a position of actual power says,
With God is my witness, we're going to use every resource we have at the Department of Justice, Homeland Security,
and throughout this government to identify, disrupt, dismantle and destroy those networks
and make America safe again for the American people.
It will happen and we will do it in Charlie's name.
And now what's disturbing there is the use of the word terrorist network.
What's disturbing is the word terrorist network.
use of the weaponization of a moment of grief and shock, right, the weaponization of a moment
of grief and shock to potentially remove people's rights. Miller's statement reminds me there
of when fucking 9-11 happened. When 9-11 happened, big shock, big public mourning, and then
the US brings in this thing called the Patriot Act or the Bush administration because 9-11
it just happened because people were afraid of al-Qaeda, the Bush administration came in and said,
look, we got to keep everybody safe, all right? We got to keep everyone safe. So because of this,
we're going to bring in the Patriot Act. This is an act of patriotism. But in practice, really what
it was is it removed a lot of people's rights. It expanded surveillance of American citizens in a way
that would have been unthinkable before. It broke down walls that between intelligence agents,
and law enforcement agencies, the police and the FBI, the police and the CIA.
It ushered in the normalization of the, the militarization of the police.
So now you look at police in America and they just look like fucking soldiers and they're going
around in tanks.
That was unthinkable before 9-11.
Fucking unthinkable.
That would have been seen as totalitarian and strange and frightening.
Now it's normal.
All the fucking, all the police look like the military now.
Now that was 25 fucking years ago
and I'm just getting the vibe that
the Trump administration is now looking for its Patriot Act
except this time it's a lot more fucked up
The FBI are
searching online and compiling a database
of anybody who appears to approve of Charlie Kirk's murder
or anyone who's making jokes about it or anything like that
and they're just being very vague about labelling people as domestic
terrorists because I have a feeling who they're referring to is people who protest, people who protest
in favour of Palestine, people who criticise the Trump administration, people who hold views that
are in any way left of right, that these people now can be labelled as domestic terrorists
and the murder of Charlie Kirk would be used as justification to strip away people's rights.
That's what fascist states do.
That's literally, that is what they do.
That's how fascism gets worse and worse.
That's what happens.
I'm seeing the weaponization of grief.
9-11, that the grief of 9-11 was absolutely weaponized by America.
And that doesn't mean that, no, that's a disrespect to that grief.
That is an absolute disrespect to anyone who died in 9-11 for that to be cynically used to remove
people's rights and then to engage
in an illegal war. And I'm
concerned that that's what they're trying to do now
if there's not pushback against
it. It reminds me of
there was a fucker called
Horst Vessel. He was a Nazi
in Germany. This was before Hitler
took power. And he was in a
group called the Starmabite
along the S.A. They were just little
fucking Nazi shitheads.
Nazi youth
kind of street gangs
that supported Hitler
a militaristic unit
so anyway
he was shot dead by communists
this is before Hitler took power
1930 he was shot dead by
communists I think he was young
maybe 1920 horse vessel
but the Nazis weaponised his
killing and turned him into a martyr
what's my opinion on the Charlie Kirk thing
I mean I witnessed his murder
I saw a bullet
slit his throat basically
and
I watched
blood pour over
his perfect white t-shirt
that had the word freedom on it
to remind myself
that that was real
and not
something in a movie
it's like someone
wrote that in a script
I fucking disagree
with everything
Charlie Kirk was standing for
everything he was saying
I think that he was a person who
consistently pushed
viewpoints that were really
really fucking harmful
and just furthered the interest
of billionaires
and then at the same time
when I saw him being shot
I'm just thinking about his little kids
I'm thinking about
he's got a three year old and a
fucking one year old
and I'm thinking about
little gorgeous three year olds
who having a clue about politics
and three-year-olds don't know what hatred is.
A three-year-old's worldview
and experience of the world is so
removed
from right-wing hatred.
Three-year-olds like ice cream and butterflies and tickles
and they love cuddles from their mammy's and daddies.
So when I saw Charlie Kirk getting shot,
I thought about his little three-year-old.
I thought about his little three-year-old
who can't even under.
stand where Dadda's gone and what happened to Dada and why Dadda's gone.
And I thought about that three-year-old getting older and becoming a teenager.
And I thought about him being bullied, bullied with images of his father's assassination.
That's what I thought about.
And I thought about all of these things because I am an adult.
I am an adult who is capable of holding conflicting opinions at the exact same time.
I'm capable of engaging with issues with the full space.
spectrum of emotions and thoughts and critical thinking and empathy.
And I bet you when you're listening to me now, you're thinking, yeah, that's fair enough,
blind boy.
You really disagreed with everything that Charlie Kirk stood for.
Yeah, absolutely disagree with it.
But then at the same time, you were also sad for his three-year-old.
Yeah, I can see that.
I can understand that, blind boy.
It's absolutely fine when you're listening to me.
I did not express any of this on the fucking internet, though, on social media.
I didn't express any of this on social media
If I said on social media
Charlie Kirk
Jesus Christ I hated everything that he believed in
But I feel sad for his children
You say that on social media
Instagram, Twitter, blue sky, whatever the fuck
You say that on social media
And then what happens is other people say
What about the children in Gaza
What about the toddlers in Gaza?
I saw that.
I saw that happen multiple times online.
I'm online and I see a person go,
oh my God, Jesus, Charlie Kirk was shot that was awful, his poor kids.
And then I'm thinking, are you a homopop?
Do you agree with Charlie Kirk?
Why are you expressing sympathy?
And then I have to go, hold on a second.
Like imagine being in a kitchen, a kitchen with your family.
And one of your family or a friend comes in and says,
Jesus, that Charlie Kirk thing, his poor kids.
and then in a kitchen in real life
you turn to that person and say
what about the kids in Gaza
you wouldn't do that would you
you wouldn't
because that'd be fucking mad
that would be
anti-social
strange odd
you might think it
you wouldn't say it
instead you'd kind of sit
with that person's reaction
you'd look at their body language
you'd listen to the tone of their voice
and you'd go
yeah that person
just saw Charlie Kirk getting shot
and then they heard that he had tiny kids
and they're feeling sorry for that, yeah.
I don't infer from their reaction
that they now support things that Charlie Kirk said,
this very right-wing reactionary nationalist Christian.
But it's perfectly normal on social media.
Perfectly normal.
You feel sorry for Charlie Kirk's kids?
What about the kids in Gaza?
Perfectly normal position on social media.
On social media, I witnessed much.
Multiple people performatively laughing about his death, saying that he deserved to die.
I saw people saying fuck his children.
These are educated people with otherwise balanced opinions.
But they're performing.
They're performing that reaction to very clearly let social media land know.
No, no, no.
I'm on one side over here and I disagree with everything Charlie Kirk has said.
So therefore, fuck everything.
take in one position over here.
Again, not something you're really going to hear in the pub.
You're not going to hear that one out in public.
You're not going to hear a person in public say,
Did you see Charlie Kirk getting shot?
I did you? Fuck his kids.
What? Do you really believe that?
No, but I really need you to know
that I definitely don't agree with anything Charlie Kirk stood for.
That would be insane.
That would be an absolutely bizarre, strange,
out of the ordinary thing to happen in the real world.
because here's what I know
and I've said this a lot of times
but here's what I know
social media is a space
that's designed by billionaires
which forces all discourse
into turn and response
combat. The very normal human reaction
of
Jesus Charlie Kirk said a lot of very fucking nasty
things but I also
feel sorry for his three year old child
you can't have an opinion like that
on social media it's not possible
because social media is not designed to accommodate nuance.
Social media only accommodates turn and response combat and polarization,
especially around any issue where there's heightened emotion.
That's its business model.
Social media doesn't work if we can all agree with each other and understand each other,
because then you'd log off.
Social media needs to keep you arguing to hold you.
heightened that emotion to earn money from your data. This isn't conspiracy. It's design. It's on
purpose. It's why Twitter and Facebook or X and Meta have their corporate headquarters in
Dublin where they can not pay tax on the billions that they earn from all of our polarized
arguments. They earn money from the utterly bizarre position that if one person is thinking
about Charlie Kirk's three-year-old, then that
must mean they are not thinking about the three-year-olds in Gaza.
And Charlie Kirk's murder appears to be.
It's when that online polarisation, that video game, that turn-in-response combat,
bleeds into fucking real life and now someone shot dead.
And my fear is how that then becomes weaponised, how he gets turned into a martyr
by the Trump administration to remove people's rights.
So the Charlie Kirk discourse made me get off so.
media this week. I didn't post about it and I avoided other people's posts about it.
And now again if I was to say that on social media people would say so you're burying your
head in the sand. No I'm not. There's just very there's very little of value being discussed
on social media and then the news sites, news sites which have to survive in the environment
of social media, there's very little adult discourse around the Charlie Kirk situation. They're just
trying to exist in the algorithm, repeating lines that are coming out of the White House
and trying themselves to provoke turn and response combat. Because if you're on, if you're
in the comments section on Instagram or TikTok of the New York Times or Sky News and you're having
a scrap with someone and the thread is 50 comments long, the news site benefits from that. That
means you're engaging with their post. Multiple people are and now more people see their post
in the algorithm. So our news sites, our journalism is now incentivised to polarise.
So, but I went to my safe space online. Now, I could just not look at any screens at all,
just go for a walk, ignore all screens. I don't want to do that. Because I remember,
I remember before social media when the internet was a wonderful, wonderful place, full of
information and fun. And I remember before that, when I remember before that, when I was a wonderful,
had magazines when I'd read magazines and my safe space on the internet is the internet archive.
Internetarchive.org, specifically the magazine section.
You can go on to internetarchive.org and they have hundreds and thousands of magazines.
Anything you can think of from the 20th century scanned as PDFs and you can just read magazines and that's what I do.
If I want a safe space online, for it's not stressful, for I'm not seeing polarised opinions or arguments, I'll just look at random magazines on archive.org.
You can look at an Argos catalogue from 1982.
From the late 70s, you can go online and find a scanned PDF and flick through an Argos catalogue from 1977.
You can look at hair dryers from 1977.
And what I'm most fascinated with old magazines is
it's not the content of the magazines,
it's the adverts that are in the magazines.
Like I said, when I was a kid, I used to buy Viz.
And in the adverts, they were selling like,
you know, how to grow cannabis or cannabis growing lights.
You learn so much about society
from the adverts that are in old magazines.
the adverts in old magazines are a bit like
there's this thing called marginalia
right
in old Irish medieval manuscripts
okay
the books where
our mythology is written down
I'm talking 5th century 6th century
7th century
some of the most important information that's derived
from old Irish manuscripts
isn't necessarily in the text
that the monks are writing down.
You know, they could be translating bits of the gospel,
they could be telling Irish myth.
Some of the most important information that we've gotten
isn't from those texts, but from the marginalia.
In the borders of these old manuscripts,
the monks would write little notes.
They'd write little notes,
or sometimes they'd even have little arguments with each other.
Like, there's a book called the Annals of Ulster.
This was written in the 9th century.
And in the margins, there's just one sentence and the sentence says,
there's a great wind coming tonight.
It will not carry off the Viking ships.
Like that one little sentence, that one little piece of a poem in the margins of these annals,
this tiny little personal opinion of a monk who wrote this in the 9th century
told us so much about the behaviour of the Vikings in Ireland,
the fear that the monks would have had.
this monk is basically saying, look, I'm here in this monastery writing this manuscript,
translating these gospels. But the wind outside is very strong.
Good. It means that tonight, at least, the Vikings won't raid.
And that's the margins. So that told us so much about society at the time.
Another huge one is a little poem called Unpangar Bonn.
Now, this was found in Germany, in a manuscript in Germany.
From the 9th century again, probably a book of Gospels.
And then just in the corner written is this little poem called on Pangerborn.
And it's a monk, it's a monk writing a tiny poem about his white cat catching mice.
But because this poem is written in Old Irish,
that one tiny little poem that we have on Pangar Barn,
because it was written in Old Irish,
its grammatical structure was used to,
to help us understand other old Irish texts that we couldn't read.
So that poem was like the Rosetta Stone that unlocked a lost old version of the Irish language.
And then you go to this piece of text that has some piece of Irish mythology written in Old Irish from the 6th century and now he can understand it and stories are unlocked.
The point I'm trying to make is I go online to Archive.org and read old magazines from the 60s 70s.
Not necessarily to read the magazines, but to look at the adverts and the pages of the magazines.
These are the marginalia, which tell us about society at the time.
People's desires, people's fears.
Like, you know, when I was a kid, if you wanted to buy sex ties aphrodisiacs or equipment for growing cannabis,
it had to be done from the back of a magazine.
Now I can just get these things in limerick.
Just walk into it
very easy to find any of this stuff
in any shop
and like I said
sex ties are in
done stores now
sex ties are in the supermarket
it's you can buy a vibrating
cock ring
around the corner
from the tomatoes
in done stores
in Ireland now
perfectly normal
in the 90s
that was hidden away
and had to be ordered
in the backs of magazines
through mail order
clandestine
it was taboo
it was secret
so that tells us a little bit
about society
in fucking the UK and Ireland
in the 90s.
So I'm on Archive.org
getting away from social media
flicking through old magazines
picking them at random
and I see one I go, fuck it.
I'm going to read a bodybuilding magazine
from 1977.
An American magazine.
So I look through it.
It's what you'd expect.
Photographs of bodybuilders,
exercises,
advice on diets.
And then the adverts
mostly fake steroids
supplements
with weird ingredients
purporting to be
better than steroids but legal
and alongside all these
photographs of you know men with
muscles looking super
masculine and these
ads for supplements that make you
more masculine
then there's this other ad that just
it stands out because it's just
it's a very good ad it's well designed
there's an excellent drawing in the middle
as a drawing of a very angry man in the middle and is holding a batten and the advert says
you don't need a gun when your worst nightmare becomes real and suddenly you are face to face
with a mugger. It's an advert for a self-defense baton. This extendable self-defense baton
known as a Keoga steel cobra. This is a very dramatic advert and it markets itself for men
as this batten you carry around
for defence against
I quote
muggers and maniacs
and there's so much fear
in this advert
it's such a dramatic ad
for this extendable batten
it's like what are you afraid of
what are you scared of
and then I look at the magazine
and it's men and muscles
and then more ads for self-defense
and this picture
like the marginalia reveals to me
oh this is a magazine about
fear. Whoever's reading this magazine is terrified. They're afraid. This is a magazine for men.
And what they're afraid of is that they're not manly enough. These men are not manly enough.
And not only are they frightened of not being big enough and muscular enough. They're clearly
frightened of being attacked. And that's why in the pages of this magazine they're selling a weapon,
this Keoga steel batten. And I love reading.
this because it just feels like such a different space, it's so different to social media.
You know, I'm hearing a magazine from 1977 and then I start thinking, you know, fuck it,
I'm going to Google. I'm going to see if I can find this exact steel batten that they were
selling to frightened men in this bodybuilding magazine in 1977. I wonder if any of them still
exist, this Keoga steel batten. And I go looking and looking and I can't find any online.
I was just curious as to, you know,
where are these things popular, did they work?
And then I, as I get deeper and deeper to the company
who was making these steel batons
and putting the adverts in the magazines,
I arrive at this fella called Harold Van Braunhut.
So he, this Harold van Braunhut,
he was this mad American fucker who pioneered.
mail order stuff from the backs of magazines
he invented x-ray specs
he invented live sea monkeys
I don't know if you remember sea monkeys
they were like
they're little shrimp and you could hatch them
they were toys
but he invented sea monkeys
but also
I think I might have mentioned this val on a podcast
before
that fucking steel batten
right that I saw on this bodybuilding
magazine from
97
that I just
came across
all of the
money
for that
went to
the Klu Klux Klan
this
Van Braunhot
fella
even though
he was
Jewish
was a
notorious
racist
and this
fucking
batten
that was
being sold
in
these magazines
of fear
men who
were afraid
that they
weren't
masculine
enough
who were
afraid that
they didn't
have
muscles
and needed
to own
this
baton
all of the prophets from that went to a fella
by the name of Richard Butler
This fella was
In last week's podcast
I mentioned British Israelism
This crazy offshoot of Christianity
That believes that Eve fuck the devil
In the Garden of Eden
And she had two kids
And everyone who's born of Eve's kids
Everyone who was born of the spawn of Eve and the devil
Is a defective human being basically
And this was used to justify racism
British Israelism
Then this went to America and became Christian Identitarianism.
Well, this fucking Richard Butler fucker, he's the one who started all of that.
He was an American Nazi.
He started the Aryan Nations.
He was associated with the KKK.
Right-wing racist.
American Christianity that aligns with right-wing white supremacy.
And it was so covert.
There you are in 1977.
You're a man, you're not worried,
you don't think you're masculine enough,
you don't think you're strong enough,
you get your bodybuilder magazine
maybe to grow some muscles.
You don't feel good enough.
You're anxious, you're frightened.
You're the type of person
who buys self-defense weapons
because your entire outlook on life
is based on fear.
And here you are being preyed upon
by Christian Nazis.
You'd have had no way of knowing this
in 1977 before the internet existed.
but if you bought this baton
from this fucking magazine
all your money goes to
the Aryans and the
KKK, you're on their
mailing list, they send you the baton
now they have your address
and next thing you know
a couple of weeks pass
and you're getting
right-wing racist literature
in the post
and you don't know why you're getting
this but it's like
yeah you just bought the baton
from the muscle magazine, but you didn't know that was to fund the KKK, but now they have your
address and now they're targeting you. They're now sending you literature that plays upon your
fears, because they know you're reading the muscle magazine, you think you're weak, you think
you're pathetic, you think you need to defend yourself. So now they're sending you their magazines
and this Richard Butler fella, he pioneered. And this Richard Butler fella, he pioneered. And this Richard
butler fella, he pioneered
mail order Nazi magazines basically
in the 70s and 80s in America.
So you buy this batten and now
they're sending you fucking literature which
is like you need to be proud
to be white. You need to stand up
for America. You need patriotism.
All these
immigrants are coming in. The Jews
the blacks, the communists,
gay people. This is why you're weak.
This is why you feel weak. You need to stand up and be strong
against this. This is the threat.
This is the actual threat.
I came here to a magazine from 1977 to get away from Charlie Kirk and the fucking social media algorithm and then I realized this is the algorithm.
This is what this is.
This is targeted algorithm.
It's just in 1977.
Racists and right-wing Christians were able to identify men who felt weak and they could target them with their racism.
it was an algorithm
it was just analogue and it might have taken
years to radicalise a person
years of snail mail
sending your Nazi
literature getting slowly but surely
getting a little bit more extreme with
each magazine could have taken years
to radicalise a person that mightn't have worked
now the same thing takes
a week
via social media and it all took me
back to Charlie Kirk
and what annoyed me was
I'm not seeing
enough serious adult interrogation by journalists around who the fuck was Charlie
Kirk? Where did he come from what did he represent? And I certainly haven't seen enough
interrogation around his organisation, Turning Point USA. Charlie Kirk was just a giant
pile of money. He was a personification of a gigantic pile of cash that was not his.
So first half, I want to tell you about a report that came out today.
This report, it's from the UK.
It's from the UK.
Now, I know I'm talking about American Christians here, but it's all connected.
Bear with me.
So a report came out today, and it's said that since 2010, which is 15 years ago,
the UK public, the UK taxpayer since 2010, has paid $200 billion in taxes,
200 billion to private companies. Public services, water services, rail, the bus service, energy,
mail services have all been privatised and since 2010 the UK public has paid 200 billion to these private
companies that now own all the public services. Let me put it a different way. Private companies
have stolen $200 billion from the British public since 2010.
They have stolen $200 billion in taxes
that's supposed to be used for public services
like water, rail, bus, energy, mail.
Instead, these taxes that people pay
that they think they are paying for the public good
are going to private interests and creating billionaires.
This is fact, this report came out the day.
Now, I'm speaking about the fucking UK,
this report came out today and it's relevant right now.
This same thing is happening in America, it's happening in Europe, it's happening in
fucking in Ireland.
This is the reason where there's loads of billionaires.
This is the reason why you don't have the standard of living that your parents had.
This is the reason that people can't afford houses.
This is why everything's so expensive.
This is why it's so hard to exist.
This is why everything feels hopeless.
This is why you can't put trust in politicians.
This is why there's a rise of fascism in the global far right.
This is why there's more racism.
This here is a massive problem.
It's neoliberalism.
That's what this is.
It's an economic system where public services are privatized.
Government oversight is stripped away so you get deregulation.
You get deregulation.
What happens is safety standards go down.
Workers' rights disappear.
Unions disappear.
Industries that are supposed to be for the public good
housing, rail
fucking mail service
electricity, water
everything that's for the public
good that you pay for with taxes
has now been handed over to private
interests, private companies
we're still paying taxes
and now a rich
person has put themselves in the middle
and set up a little tall booth
that's what this is.
Public services handed to private
interests. It's been like this for
45 years. It started
in the early 80s, what the fuck does this have to do with Charlie Kirk?
Well, this started in America.
This is neoliberal economics.
It's Reagan, Ronald Reagan. Reaganomics. In Britain, it was Thatcher.
Christianity used to not be a part of American politics.
In America, for most of the 20th century, religion and politics, church and state, very separate.
Presidential candidates did not speak about being religious.
This was taboo. This was unprofessional.
The first American president to actually come out and speak about Christianity and faith
was bizarrely it was Jimmy Carter.
Jimmy Carter was no saint because at the end of the day still president of America and empire.
But as American presidents go,
Jimmy Carter is the closest that you could get to,
a good person.
I'll put it this way.
We would not have the climate crisis today
at the scale that it is
if people listen to Jimmy Carter.
I've done podcasts on this fucker before years ago.
I can't remember the name.
Jimmy Carter, right?
He became president in 1976, President of America.
Jimmy Carter put solar panels
on the roof of the White House in 1976.
Okay?
He knew about climate change.
He knew.
what was going to happen. He was prepared to regulate industry to prevent the climate collapse
that we are now living through right now. Jimmy Carter recognized the state of Palestine.
Jimmy Carter believed in racial equality, civil rights. Jimmy Carter believed in the government
providing people with social housing, health care, with compassionate state help. Jimmy Carter
basically believed that people shouldn't be poor, people shouldn't be sick and not have a house
just because they're poor, that there should be some compassionate, a compassionate system that
helps people just because, for the common good. I wouldn't call Jimmy Carter a socialist,
but as American presidents go, he's the closest they got. He was no saint. He did some dodgy
shit in fucking Cambodia. But here's the thing. Jimmy Carter, he was quite open about Christianity.
This was very shocking to the American public. What the fuck do you mean this president is talking
about being a Christian? Presidents don't talk about their religion. That's private church and state
are separate. But Jimmy Carter would speak about his faith. But he would speak about his faith
compassionately. Jimmy Carter would use the fact that he was a Baptist and he was a Christian.
as this is why I believe in the common good.
This is why I don't want to destroy the planet.
This is why I'm actually trying to be kind as a leader
because I'm a follower of Christ
and Christ was fairly sound, wasn't he?
And this really, really pissed off the Republican Party
who were conservative.
This really pissed off very, very, very wealthy people in America.
This pissed off people who owned industries, people who, this pissed off oil companies.
This pissed off all of the people who were very, very wealthy and who profited from destroying the
planet, who profited from privatisation. This pissed off wealthy people who didn't want to pay taxes.
No, I'm not paying fucking taxes. You want me to pay taxes to put a poor person into a house?
Fuck you, Jimmy Carter.
Jimmy Carter pissed off a lot of wealthy people.
Jimmy Carter pissed off wealthy Christians.
So you started to see a backlash.
The backlash came from like Ronald Reagan.
Ronald Reagan started running against Jimmy Carter.
And Reagan's thing was neoliberalism.
Something that hadn't really been tried out yet.
They tried it out down in fucking...
oh fuck where was it down in central it was it chilly after they'd gotten rid of viande that's a separate podcast but reaganomics
reaganomics is neoliberalism trickle down economics privatize everything no regulation right get the government
out of business let wealthy rich people do whatever the fuck they want create a perfect environment for business
and what will happen is the wealth will trickle down fuck this social
welfare thing. The state shouldn't be involved. No taxes, no interference, privatize everything.
Let the wealthy business people take control. They know what they're doing. That's Reaganomics.
That's neoliberal economics. American right-wing Christians helped to bring that into power.
Jimmy Carter opened Pandora's box. He was the first president to go, do you know what? I'm a Baptist.
I'm a Christian. I'm a Christian. Don't worry. I know that freaks you out. But Christ was all about
kindness and love. He was, Jimmy Carter was Ned Flanders. He was fucking Ned Flanders. That's what
Jimmy Carter was. I'm all about love and Christ and I want kindness and social responsibility.
That's how I was raised as a Baptist. That's what we do. That really pissed off greedy people.
It pissed off greedy Christians. It's like, shut the fuck up, Jimmy. Shut up Jimmy, because I'm
wealthy and I'm fucking greedy, but I also go to church. So you're making me look bad. I don't want to
taxes. I don't want to give money to needy people. Fuck them, but I still want to be a
Christian. Shut the fuck up, Jimmy. So what happens is this fucker called Jerry, Jerry Falwell
emerges. Jerry Falwell was, this is late 70s, Jerry Falwell was a televangelist. Okay,
American right-wing Christian, televangelist. And what Jerry Falwell starts going after is
morality, morality, right? So if Jimmy Carter's like, I'm a Christian. I'm a Christian.
peace and love, kindness, generosity, okay?
But then Jerry Falwell comes in and goes, fuck this.
What about all these gays?
What about the homosexuals?
Feminists, communists, abortion.
This is sin.
So Jerry Falwell, who's this Christian right televangelist minister,
he then found this organization called the Moral Majority.
So now this becomes about morals.
How can Jimmy Carter be a Christian when he's granting freedoms to homosexuals, to abortionists?
This is disgusting.
Where are the family values?
Where is the morality?
Where's the morality in this Jimmy?
So this televangelist Jerry Falwell, who has a massive audience,
because he's on fucking TV preaching all the time.
So this is huge.
He's got this huge massive following.
For the first time like the Christian right decide, let's team up with the Republicans and then they find Ronald Reagan.
Now the thing with Reagan, Reagan was a TV star.
Reagan had been divorced. Reagan wasn't a fucking Christian, but Reagan was a neoliberal.
Reagan wanted privatization, no government involved in business, he didn't want unions.
unions, no taxes for the rich people, fuck social welfare. If you're poor, you're poor.
But then what you also start to see too is the rise of what you'd call prosperity theology.
Or the prosperity gospel, it's a very unique strand of American Christianity. It's basically
it's the neoliberalism of Christianity.
prosperity theology
they're all over Trump at the moment
it's this really weird type of American Christianity
that basically believes that if you're wealthy
if you are multi multi-millionaire in America
then that means that that money has been blessed
God has given it to you
but if you're really really poor
that means that you have a lack of faith
so wealth is proof of God's blessing
and poverty means that you're morally corrupt basically
and all you've got to do
see this praise on poor people
if you just give money to your pastor
then that will trickle down to you
God's blessing will come to you
this is the prosperity gospel
and prosperity theology
it's fucking trickle down economics
it's neoliberal trickle down economics
give money to your pastor
make your pastor rich
and then that will come to you via God's blessing.
Don't tax rich people.
Let billionaires be billionaires
because the jobs and the money that they will create
will trickle down to you, poor person.
So prosperity theology and neoliberalism,
they're fucking hand in hand.
So anyway, long story short,
Jerry Falwell and the moral majority,
that's what gets Reagan elected to the President of America.
It was a reaction against Jimmy Kempelwell.
character's use of Christianity as kindness. That was dangerous. Jerry Falwell rallied all the
right-wing American Christians and said, you're part of politics now. You're now part of politics
because America is at stake. The moral soul of America is at stake. They'd just seen the 60s and the
70s, you see. They're going to look at all these hippies. What's with all these, there's African-American
people who appear to be human now.
They have jobs, they have rights.
What's this about?
Gay people are out in public holding hands.
I want America to be white, straight.
Christian again, that's what I want.
And it worked.
It worked.
Morality, fear, Christianity
was used as the story,
the emotional story
to basically push neoliberal economics,
to push neoliberal economics.
Because neoliberal economics is boring.
That's boring.
But I'm uncomfortable with these gay people.
I don't like abortions.
I love Christ.
I need to feel better than black and brown people.
Those people are actually a threat.
They're dangerous.
We need greater law enforcement and gun rights to keep ourselves safe
because I'm in a perpetual state of fear.
That's brilliant storytelling.
That's great fucking storytelling.
So what Jerry fucking Falwell and the moral majority figured out was we can now attach this very simple Christian fear-based narrative in with the Republican Party and a neoliberal, neoliberal economics, which is boring as fuck, but we can actually attach this lovely story to it and get the masses, the moral majority, to vote in economic policies that are actually going to crush them and their fucking children for generations.
but we can get these people to vote this in
because the wealth is going to trickle down
just like the prosperity gospel says
so that's that's the 1980s
Reagan gets into power
one of the first things Reagan does
he takes the solder panels off
takes the solder panels off the fucking White House roof
says the climate change is bullshit
privatizes industry globalization
I've done the neoliberal podcast leads
fast forward to Charlie Kirk
so Charlie Kirk
like I said he was the face of a giant pile of money and the giant pile of money
was an organization called Turning Point USA so what was turning point you what is
turning point USA so it's they call themselves grassroots but what it is it's astroturfing
a grassroots organization is a movement that begins with common people on the ground
this sense that the people on the ground regular
Joe soaps get together and this is what we care about.
Like the moral majority, this is what we care about when we want our politicians to listen.
Astro-Turfing is when wealthy interests go into a community and then create issues.
We're seeing this in Ireland at the moment with anti-immigrant stuff in Ireland is being stoked up.
Small groups of far-right organisers go into communities in Ireland.
The same people like 12-13 people and they go in and start.
things up and then create an issue. That's called astroturfing. So Tarnan Point USA was an
astroturfing organisation specifically targeting young people at colleges and schools and Charlie
Kirk was the face of this because Charlie Kirk was really good communicator, very smart,
well able to talk. What are the goals of Tarnan Point? Like this isn't even conspiracy. So Ternan Point's
goals, literally, according to themselves, is it's a grassroots organization. It's not. It's
astroturfing. To organize students to promote the principles of freedom, free markets and
limited government. That's Reaganomics. Straight up, right, that is neoliberalism. Charlie
fucking Kirk was, he grew up in Chicago. His dad was, he grew up a multimillionaire. He'd have grown up in
In the part of Chicago, where home alone was, you know, he grew up in those suburbs,
so he grew up in a home alone house.
American upper middle class millionaire, his dad was an architect of luxury houses.
His dad got badly fucked over in the 2008 financial crisis.
Charlie Kirk, when he was like 18, he was a Reagan.
Reagan was his fucking hero.
Wasn't even into religion when he was younger.
Reaganomics.
Ronald Reagan was just this.
this fella is the best. So explicitly
Turning Point USA
is
it's an organization to promote
the benefits of neoliberalism
to students as a reactionary
Charlie Kirk and Turnipoint
identified that
college campuses in particular
were a hotbed for what they saw as
anti-capitalist ideas. Socialism
whatever the fuck you have. Fairness and
bloody compassion.
So how does a youngflav with an interest in Reagan in 2010 when he was only 18?
How does he end up becoming the face of this giant astroturfing organization?
Well, because of the wealthy backers.
So who's the money behind turning point?
Well, the biggest donors and the co-founder were the Bradley Foundation.
So the Bradley Foundation is American, conservative, Christian family foundation.
they pumped millions in the turning point.
What are the Bad Bradley Foundation into?
Privatization of education.
Deregulation.
Anti-union.
Tax breaks for businesses.
And privatising schools, that's the big one.
School public education should not exist.
All public schools should actually be owned by a company.
Not paid for by tax.
Well, paid for by tax, but organized by a private company
who then received that tax money for profit.
So that's the co-founder of Turning Point USA, pumping millions in.
So if you're pumping that fucking money in, you want something in return.
Then you've got the Ouline Family Foundation.
They're, again, Republican family, loads of money.
What's their thing?
Anti-regulation, deeply Christian conservative, culture war stuff.
Another huge contributor, the donor's trust.
What is the donors' trust?
it's a
it's a way for
it's a way for people
to give money
to like
far right organizations
organizations that are like
anti-tax anti-regulation
climate denial groups
far right groups
the donors trust allows wealthy people
to put money into this fund
to fund things but for it not to go back
to them so I don't know if you're a very wealthy
American and you appear
liberal on the surface or you appear to
have respect for your workers, you can use the Donors Trust to then fund an organization
that might be involved in union busting. So, Turn and Point used to receive a lot of money
from Donors Trust, still does. Turn and Point received massive donations from the Koch Network,
the Cock Brothers, K-O-C-H. They're into fossil fuels, fucking chemicals, oils, oil pipelines.
I mean, what are the Cockbrothers into?
They've got their fingers and a load of fucking poise.
But what they fund is groups that are climate change denial,
dismantling the welfare state, union busting.
You get the point.
That's just the Tarnan Point USA,
which was the, Charlie Kirk was the face of this organisation, right?
And he used to go to campuses all over America as part of Tarning Point USA.
when he was shot last week the turning point branding was everywhere and it's like there's a turning point now on canvas on campuses we're going to fight back against the liberals a bit against the communist against the transgender people against the gay people against the black people we're going to fight back and make america great again what's really happening here it's just a it's a giant pile of money to perpetuate neoliberalism right neoliberalism
liberalism only benefits billionaires it does not benefit the middle class is
disappearing because of neoliberalism so Tarnan point is it's trickery
it's it's it's trickery so just like the fucking moral majority people
right in the 80s who were using Christianity morality that's simple
narrative that's that simple lovely story
turning point we're using the culture war, this online polarization, whatever it is.
Trans people, Black Lives Matter, George Floyd, the earth is flat, coronavirus, conspiracy theories,
whatever is causing huge fights online, turning point in organizations like it,
they take that, Charlie Kirk would take the contrarian.
position. Whatever the Liberals were against, Charlie Kirk was against. But really what's
happening here is it's just neoliberalism being pushed. Neoliberalism is being pushed. Free
markets. You don't want the government involved. The government is bad. Taxes are bad. The welfare
state is bad. It's an astroturfing organization. It goes to college campuses and Charlie Kirk
fights with feminists
or fights with
people who are anti-school shooting
and it's astroturfing for
neoliberal policies
and turning point was huge
for, you know, tied with Donald Trump
for getting Trump elected
not just getting Trump elected
but specifically
turning younger voters, younger college age voters
who might feel the pressure
to be liberal. If you know, if you're
contrarian and reactionary come over here and then Charlie Kirk so at the start he wasn't
even that Christian but then he became very Christian and shit hot at quoting the Bible very
good at quoting the Bible so just to show you like so that Jerry Falwell that I mentioned
from the 1980s who got Reagan into power so his son Jerry Falwell Jr.
right?
In 2019, who does he team up with?
Charlie Kirk.
And Jerry Falwell Jr. and Charlie Kirk
started a think-tank organization
to get her called Falcark.
So Jerry Falwell Jr., like Christian,
the same as his dad,
right-wing fucking evangelical Christians.
It might not be evangelical, I'm not sure.
Right-wing American Christians, same as his dad.
So Falcirk, and again, this is out in the open.
this is what the organisation said.
So in 2019,
Jerry Falwell Jr. and Charlie Kirk start this
think tank together.
And the point of it, Falkirk, is
to put effort into proving that Jesus Christ was not a socialist.
Kark said when Falkirk was founded in 2019,
we're in a culture battle right now
where you have to fight and play offence.
And part of this effort is to try and play offence
against the secular left.
The goal of Falkirk really is
how can I
convince people that you can be a Christian
and also be greedy?
That's it. It was clear
that the
this online argument of
Jesus was a socialist. He fucking was
by the way. I mean Jesus went into the
temple, the money lenders and
threw up the tables. Christ hung around
with fucking poor people
and thieves and prostitutes
and like Christ
was, I mean it's their
like a very compassionate individual
and he most definitely would have been
Christ would have been in favour of social housing
and very wealthy people
giving up some of their wealth
for people who have less.
So Charlie Kirk and Jerry Falwell Jr.
started the Falkirk organisation
to quite literally figure out a way
to push neoliberal economics
in the benefit of Donald Trump
while still being Christian
and to dispel this idea
that Jesus might be socialist
and that's what Falkirk was
now why did Falkirk
stop existing? Because
Jerry Falwell Jr.
He
he
in 2020
he was what'd be called
a cookhold
um
his what Jerry Fatt
he's a fucking Christian
his dad was the bloody moral
majority Ronald Reagan fell in the 80s
so Jerry Fannwell
Junior in 20-20.
He was in his 50s, so was his wife.
They met a 20-year-old pole boy
and basically he used to ride
Jerry Falwell's wife
while Jerry Falwell sat in the corner watching.
So he used to like to watch
20-year-old men have sex with his wife
and she used to like it too.
And this got out and became
came a huge scandal because he's a fucking
evangelical Christian, obviously.
Talking about morality and the family
and it's like, well,
you like sitting in the corner of hotel rooms
while a young fella fuck's your wife.
Here's the thing.
Like, there's nothing wrong
with that. It's like,
oh, right, you're an adult, do you?
Oh, and your wife is also an adult.
Oh, and that man there is an adult too.
And what are you into?
All right, your wife likes to have sex with him.
Okay.
Are you consenting?
you are? Are you consenting? Great.
And Jerry, what about you?
Well, I quite like to watch this.
Great, so you also consent, Jerry.
Fucking fantastic. Three adults, having a bit of group sex, whatever.
None of my business.
Fucking none of my business.
Work away.
You might get hit by a car tomorrow.
No one did anything wrong.
Three consenting adults did a bunch of sex stuff.
No one was abused.
No one was victimized.
But because, and you know, maybe he was possibly bisexual?
I don't know.
He's in a room.
There's another man with his balls out.
Maybe I don't know.
I don't want to say that people who are into cookholding are necessary bisexual.
I don't know.
But it's not great if your whole thing is fucking sexual morality.
And sex is between a man and a wife and this is a covenant with God.
It's not great.
So Falcark fell apart and had to change its name after that.
The point I'm trying to make is, I haven't seen any fucking decent.
Why is this not the thing that's been spoken about?
Whatever about the culture war stuff.
The circus.
Charlie Kirk ran a fucking circus.
A circus that was entertainment.
That's the thing with this shit.
This is actually a form of entertainment.
The culture war is actually a form of entertainment
even though it's really dangerous
it's really harmful
it hurts trans people
gay people women
fucking black people
brown people are victimised
but this is actually a circus of entertainment
and media plays into it
and figures like Charlie Kirk
or Ben Shapiro or fucking Donald Trump
they're entertainers
their storytellers in the circus
but it is all a huge
huge, huge distraction from neoliberal policies that are destroying the life of everybody who
isn't a fucking billionaire. Charlie Kirk was the face of that. He was the face of a giant pile of
cash. A giant pile of cash explicitly out there in the open, a pile of cash that's there
to push neoliberal policies into fucking government using the culture war as the vehicle. It's not
conspiracy they say it themselves it's out anyone can see this the vast majority of journalism i've
seen the past week has focused instead on the circus it hasn't focused on the ticket sales behind the
circus it hasn't focused on the people that are building the tents and this is happening the world over
that's what all this shit is about and it's it's being driven by social media networks is being
driven by like i said who's who's inventing the town square the town square where these things are happening
fucking social media companies.
The billionaires that are benefiting from all of this
are also creating the platform where most
of the discourse occurs where they have set the rules
for what the discourse is, turn and response
combat. Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg.
Their companies are here in Ireland, not paying tax.
There's many
quotes that Charlie Kirk said
that I could be speaking
about, but the one that really
grinds my gears
is in 2024, Charlie
Kirk, and it was on his fucking podcast.
he said, I can't stand the word empathy, actually.
I think empathy is a made-up new age term.
It does a lot of damage.
Sympathy is saying, I'm sorry you're going through that,
but empathy is, I'm going to feel what you feel,
and that's a terrible idea for a leader.
And that there, the thing is,
empathy isn't just, I feel what,
another person is feeling. Empathy is the effort of thinking about what it's like to be another
person or thinking about what that other person is going through. Okay? And sympathy. See, you can be
a good Christian and still have sympathy. What the Christian right would like is for the supporters to
have sympathy but not empathy. You see, with sympathy, sympathy you get to see a poor person on the side
of the road. Oh, that's terrible. Oh, that poor person. Isn't that so sad? Look at them. They're
dirty. They don't have clothes. They can't eat food. They're begging. Look at that person. That's so sad.
And then you move on. You can then label that person. You can label them as poor. You can say
something like, well, you know, they're poor probably because they deserve it. It's awful that
they're poor, but that person could lift themselves out of that poverty, I'm sure. Like, I could do
that. But you see, if you go with empathy, it's different. Look at that person who's poor. Wow.
I wonder what they went through that they're in that situation. I wonder have they experienced
trauma. I wonder has that person experienced maybe classism, racism. I wonder that that person
have a mental illness that I don't know about or a physical illness that I can't see. I wonder what
What must it be like for that person?
I wonder what their childhood was like.
What circumstances led to this?
You see, that's empathy.
And once you start using empathy,
you have to start thinking systematically.
And once you start using empathy,
you can't blame someone for poverty when you're using empathy.
Sympathy alone.
You get to think that you're a good person
because it's like, I feel sad for them,
but you haven't gone that step further
and you can still label them.
Empathy, empathy is critical thinking.
That's what empathy is.
And empathy isn't just feeling.
You are sad, so I feel your sadness.
Empathy is also the fact that you want to think about
why the other person might be sad.
It's critical thinking.
It's affording someone else.
Your cognitive fucking time
to have a think about what they're going through
and what it's like for them.
imagination, creativity
and empathy is the road
to compassion
it's the road to compassion
and the road to self-reflection
and the road to thinking
oh fuck it that person has less than me
I wonder can I help him
and that's the Charlie Carr quote
that really grinded my gears
it revealed a lot
it's like a course you don't like empathy
because then it might push critical thinking
and then that might make people go
all on a second who's funding you and why
so taking it back to neoliberalism
it's the
transfer of public wealth
into private interests
it's been happening
for the past 45 years
it hasn't really stopped
it's still continuing
and this is
driving a lot of the problems
in the world today
and fueling the flames
of conspiracy theories
and culture wars and hatred
and it's happening everywhere
like there was flag protest
there in fucking Ireland
and also over
in England there
the past month. Who's paying for the flags
and why? Like there was a very
blatant attempt in Ireland.
Just all these
Irish flags started showing up
and they were being put up on flagpoles.
And
someone was trying to re-contextualise
the Irish flag so that it became
anti-immigrant because they were
hoping that the government would take down
Irish flags and that's
astroturfing. Get them to take
down the Irish flag so that we can
say you're not allowed to be Irish in Ireland again, make Ireland great again.
Who's funding it and why?
Is it about flags?
Is it about flags or is it are very wealthy interests just wanting to push more neoliberalism?
And to take it back to empathy.
I can strongly disagree with some of the things that Charlie Carr did and say it when he was alive
and at the same time be heartbroken for his little kids who are growing up without a dad
and don't even understand what's happened
and a part of me to be heartbroken for him
that he doesn't get to be there for his kids and hug his kids
and that there is that's the complexity of human emotions right there
that's I love being able to think that way
but also because because the spectacle of Charlie Kirk's death
was so so fucking traumatising
and it did hurt a lot of people
people who'd never even heard of Charlie Kirk
it was so frightening
and there's people out there
who are quite compassionate
with big hearts
and they saw a brutal thing happening
and they're thinking about his kids
some of those people are now vulnerable
to the martyrdom
you see the Trump administration
is going to turn him into a martyr
and use the way
that he died to associate
his viewpoints with righteousness
and goodness and I can
already see them
they're trying to make
There's narratives emerging that this is trans violence, that this is that trans people did this.
This is about trans people.
I can see that emerging already where they're trying to associate trans people with violence.
Because again, there's an unfounded rumor.
We don't know that possibly the shooter or the person who's been arrested may have had a partner who was trans.
But this is, again, unfounded rumor we don't know.
So that's my take on the matter.
that was a very long podcast
I'd imagine there now
fucking hell
how long was that
Jesus Christ
All right
I'll catch ye
next week
Dog bless
Wink at a swan
Genia fleck to a wren
Blow kisses at a robin
Redbreast
Haven't seen a robin red breast
in a while
I'll be looking forward
to them cunts coming back
proud fuckers
All right
Dog bless
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