The Blindboy Podcast - Gander Panderer
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7 weeks to number one Hello.
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That was seven weeks at number one on the podcast charts.
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Last week we spoke about
a very meaningful encounter that I had with an author and how this author
caused me to mull on my safety as a male as I go out in the dark at nighttime
wandering the river and this author caused me to ruminate on a story of murder
that happened on the very river where I met him
I returned to the
to the Plassy River to try and find the otter again
but alas he'd fucked off
he's an elusive boy
so
I mightn't see him again for
I don't know another few years
like I said his territory is 21 kilometres
and I was very lucky that night
to see that otter
prancing around
as the sun set
above the glistening water
a couple of weeks back
I made an incorrect assertion
about about squirrels.
I asserted that the pine marten preys upon the red squirrel.
And I asserted that the red squirrel was an invasive species to Ireland.
I've been corrected many times online by concerned listeners.
The red squirrel is native to Ireland.
And the grey squirrel is an invasive species.
And the pine martin has a crack off him.
This week on the Blind Boy Podcast.
I'd like to talk about.
A semi-precious metamorphic rock.
Called lapis lazuli.
And it's importance.
It's importance on our culture and our history as
people of the west
apologies to the 16 people
listening in Indonesia
Lapis Lazuli
it's this semi precious
blue stone
that changed the world.
It's particularly beautiful.
It's particularly gorgeous.
And it's hard to find.
And
if you know anything about painting
you know if you've got a rudimentary knowledge of
art of the past thousand years
there was a period called the Byzantine period
and the Byzantine period was
the Roman Empire
was divided in two parts
there was the
Western Roman Empire
which was
governed from Rome
and then there was Byzantium
which is from about Turkey which was governed from Rome. And then there was Byzantium,
which is from about Turkey out to Eastern Europe.
And this was the Byzantine Empire. And the Byzantines had their own specific style of painting and art,
specifically religious painting.
If you see any medieval paintings
that use an awful amount of gold leaf, right? when you see them, they're made of gold.
That chances are that's a Byzantine painting.
And the reason they used gold was because back then they believed that, you know, art was a magical religious process and the artist who painted religious art was in direct communion with God, essentially.
Also, as well, the people who had money then, whether they be bankers or bishops or cardinals or whatever,
they would
use their money to commission
pieces of religious art
it was their way of kind of showing off
you know if you wanted to have
a Lexus
or a Maybach in the Byzantine
period the best thing you could do
was to commission a fantastic
painting of
Christ and Mary or whatever the fuck
so the patrons in Byzantium
would say to the artists
what's the most expensive thing
that you can paint a painting with
and the artists would go
gold
so fuck off there and paint
paint Holy Mary in gold there
for the crack
so they would
and this is why Byzantine paintings
are very much golden in colour.
But then something changed.
Something changed around the
early Renaissance period of painting in Europe.
Gold stopped being the most expensive colour
and again
this tradition existed
if you were a wealthy bishop
or a wealthy cardinal
and you wanted to show off
to your friends
and to impress people
you would commission an artist
to paint great works
you would become a patron of the arts
all the best painters
from that period
Leonardo, Donatello
the Turtles
they all had patrons
but along comes
Lapis Lazuli
this blue metamorphic rock.
And they started to grind it down to create a colour known as Ultramarine.
And Ultramarine, if you've ever seen it, it's a very pure blue.
So quite quickly, when the patrons would ask their artists
can you do me a painting of Holy Mary
or Christ
I can
well what's the most expensive colour you've got
fucking blue cuz
there's this stone called lapis lazuli
if you can get me some of this
I can make it into blue pigment
and I can paint you a painting
that's blue and I can paint you a painting that's blue
and I swear to fuck
when everyone sees it
they're going to go
discount
he's commissioning
the best
most ostentatious art going
because he can afford
all of this blue
that comes from the
very expensive
lapis lazuli
and that's why in images of Holy Mary That comes from the very expensive lapis lazuli.
And that's why in images of Holy Mary, that's why she's blue.
Holy Mary is blue because of lapis lazuli being the most expensive pigment that was available at the time.
When you see a painting of Holy Mary or anything that contains a lot of blue
from the Renaissance period
culturally
what that painting was saying
it wasn't too far off
like 50 cents lyrics
when a painter painted in blue
or even red to a certain extent
because red was quite expensive too.
You have to remember we're painting pigments.
Painting pigments.
Let me rewind
a bit here lads because I can't assume
that as an
audience you're au fait with the mechanics of
the art world.
Paint
throughout history, the fine art
painting, right, paintings that you'd make a
paint a picture with
traditionally it's oil paint
okay
oil paint
I think it came in around the 12th century
and oil paint is essentially
you start with a pigment
a pigment is a powder
a very brightly coloured powder, you mix
this powder with
linseed oil, you know that's the
oil from the flax plant
and you mix the two of them together and you get
oil paint
different pigments
have different
kind of, different pigments
have, they have different qualities
some of them are opaque.
Which means you can't see through them.
Other ones are.
Transparent.
Which means you can.
Light is allowed through.
Like em.
Like a thin sheet of coloured plastic.
But anyway.
Back in the early renaissance.
In the middle renaissance.
If you were a painter
you had to make your own paints
you got delivered pigment
and you had to make your own paints
it wasn't until the industrial revolution
that paints became available in tubes
and you'll notice this in
if you look
I spoke a couple of podcasts back
about modernism and post-modernism right
if you look
at the paintings of Monet
from the 18th century and the
Impressionists, if you've ever heard of the term
Impressionism, what the Impressionists
had access to, they were the first
artists who could walk into a shop
and buy a tube of paint
which meant they could
take their paints outside
on plain air they called it, they could take their paints outside on plain air they called it they could
take their paints out into a field with a little canvas and they could paint the light of outside
as they see it that's why impressionism was so revolutionary because they were capturing light
and color in a way that had never been seen before painters in renaissance times
by which I mean 14, 15, 16th century
they had to paint the outside
based on memory
they were painting the memory of the outdoors
from their sketchbooks or whatever
because they had to paint inside in studios
with candlelight a lot of the time
but the Impressionists
like Monet, they were able to fuck off outside
and paint
light as it happens
if you want to see a beautiful example of this
go on to Google Images and look up Monet's paintings
the Haystack series
where he paints a haystack at different
times of the day
Impressionism was called
impressionism because the painter
was trying to get not reality
as it
actually is but rather an impression
of a fleeting moment of light
and they discovered a lot about colour
as a result of that
but yeah
so paints come from pigments
and a vehicle, the aisle.
And throughout history, there's been many fucking mental pigments, right?
One that I can think of in particular, there was one called Mummy Brown,
which was an incredibly expensive pigment
because it was made from actual ground-up Egyptian mummies.
The pre-Raphaelites were into it for some
reason they were like look get me a mummy either a human or a cat grind it down with a bit of pitch
and a bit of mirror and I'll get a class brown out of this so as you can imagine that was quite
fucking expensive you had that dragon's blood red and um it came from a type of South Asian tree.
Very expensive.
Of course Lapis Lazuli that I'm talking about.
White Lead was another one.
The painter Vermeer was using this.
Very difficult to get your hands on White Lead.
And then you had one called Tyrian Purple.
And there was a Mayan maya blue which came from the indigo plant but of course all these pigments they were expensive and they were hard to
get okay and the wealthier you were as an artist the better pigments you had the better colors you
had you'll see this today if you walk into a shop into an art shop
and you go to the oil paint section there's two types of oil paints there's standard oil paints
and they're all regardless of color and size they're all pretty much the same price but then
at the top tier there's the artist's oil colors and just look at the prices on these little oil
colors right the artist's oil colours.
They're the exact same size tube,
but we'll say the yellow might be 16 quid,
and then the blue is 28 quid,
because artist oil colours today are still using these precious natural pigments,
whereas the regular oil colours today, they're synthetic chemical pigments.
And if you're a painter today and your paintings are worth
more than a couple of grand
you're kind of legally obliged
to use the expensive artist oil cutters
because they don't fade over time
and if you're spending money on a painting
you want to be able to have an investment
you don't want that to fucking
to fade obviously
but I just digressed into the history of
pigments but i do think it may have been necessary because i can't assume that ye cunts know about
pigments pigments my apologies so i'm going to take you back now again to lapis lazuli, the post byzantine period and the early renaissance okay. Colours that
you could get out of the earth easily like browns, greens and blacks, anyone could use
them but you had to have a rich patron in order to afford the reds and the blues. So
a painting with a lot of red and blue back then was the same as saying I'm up in the club
drinking Cristal with all the bitches
and I've got loads and loads
of money and I'm throwing loads of money
on strippers, culturally that is
what that art communicated
to the observer and it was the
patrons way
who by the middle ages, it was the
religious patron but it was also
the big banking families
of Venice
the
the Medici's
they were just showing off
going
here look at my artist
with his blue painting
so this is why
Holy Mary is blue
and if you look at
you know for further evidence
of this
get a squint at
Leonardo's paintings
right at different stages
in his career
and not just Leonardo but
you know someone like
Titian as well
Vermeer even
look at their paintings at different
stages in their career when they're
younger painters and they're only starting off
and they don't have patrons
give them a fuck
ton of money. Their paintings contain a lot of dark greens and browns and blacks because
if you wanted brown this came from ochre. You could dig ochre out of the ground, out
of the soil. Anyone could get ochre. Black, just burn a bit of wood and get charcoal.
You make your black paint out of that
but as the painters
developed in their careers
and became more wealthy
that's when they could afford to add
blues and reds
and the more expensive colours
which keeps me thinking about
a boy called
Caravaggio
now Caravaggio was an incredibly interesting
character but before I speak about his character or speak about his paintings you know at this
point that this podcast is about my hot takes. It's about borderline conspiracy theories
and I have a bit of a hot take
about Caravaggio
and his impact on
on current culture
now Caravaggio
togged out
from about
what was it
1571
to
sometime around 1610.
And he's an unbelievable painter.
If you've never seen a Caravaggio painting, it's just the drama, the drama that the man was able to imbue into a painting had never been seen before.
The way he would use facial expressions
of people
he was painting photographs
before photographs were a thing
he was truly capturing emotion
on the canvas and creating
dramatic still
scenes of people interacting
usually
usually
you know
there was a lot of religious themes to his work but
most a lot of normal people doing normal shit too but always something dramatic
but what you will notice with caravaggio's paintings is the way he uses light now his
paintings are massive they're fucking huge I had the privilege of seeing a few
Caravaggio's in Italy
they're the size of a wall
and they're mostly black
with a single light source
illuminating the figures
that are other figures coming out of
the distance, coming out of the background, coming out of
the black
here's my here's my hot take on Caravaggio and his use of black and how it relates to pigment.
By all accounts, Caravaggio was a bit of a bald boy. He was an anti-social character.
He was a bit of an antisocial character.
His biographer said that Caravaggio would work intensively for a couple of weeks and then go right and finish painting.
And then, I quote,
Swagger about for a month or two with a sword at his side from one tennis court to the next,
ever ready to engage in a fight
or an argument
so Caravaggio was going around 17th century
Italy with a sword
starting scraps
in tennis courts, that's what he was about
right
and like a gangster
rapper, he was a gangster rapper of his time
he was brought to trial 11 times. Charges
were, he swore at a constable. Did a bit of time for that. He wrote some satirical verses
against a rival painter. They didn't look too well in that in the 17th century. And
he fucked a plate of artichokes into a waiter's face, and was brought to trial for that,
so this is a,
he's a gangster,
do you know,
but then,
in 1606,
he had to flee to Rome,
because he had a brawl,
and he killed a man,
over the game of tennis of course,
starting scraps in tennis courts,
with his sword,
he killed someone,
and,
spent the rest of his life on the run didn't paint no more
on the run eventually 1610 he wanted to go back to a bit of painting so he tried to travel
to Rome to get a pardon from the Pope for the murder but he died along the way but here's my theory
about
there's a few things about Caravaggio
when I was over in Rome
there's a lot of
Caravaggio's knocking about
and you go into
a little church in Rome and there's a lot
of Caravaggio's on the wall
but here's the thing
with his paintings you have to know how to be able to tell the difference between a Caravaggio
painting as in one of his actual his own paintings and a painting that's considered to be the school
of Caravaggio he used to get his students who he would teach in his style to paint his paintings
and then he'd sign them off as his own
so we can't really tell which is which
at this point
that's number one
balled by gangster move
now number two
this is my hot take
I think Caravaggio
used such
vast amounts of black
and brown in his paintings as a way to scam his patrons.
So if Caravaggio's patron came to him and said, look here's a hundred grand or whatever it was at the time and said, paint me a massive, massive painting of Christ and his disciples.
paint me a massive massive painting of christ and his disciples caravaggio would cover a good 80 percent of the canvas in black and brown which i which i've told you already are incredibly cheap
colors and then just in the center he'd use the expensive blues and reds just to slightly
illuminate the characters in the middle. And I think his style exists.
Because the cunt was trying to save money.
He was trying to.
Alright I'll do it like a cowboy builder.
Caravaggio was a cowboy builder of his time.
He's like.
Come here to me.
Yeah yeah 100 grand not a butter cuz.
And then he keeps 70 for himself.
Cuz he's digging up blacks and browns out of the earth.
And then he's using the 30. he's digging up blacks and browns out of the earth. And then he's using the 30 to get his blues and his reds and take the rest of the money for when he fucks off for the rest of the year, getting pissed, hanging around tennis courts and starting fights.
So that's my Caravaggio hot take.
But another thing about Caravaggio's paintings that make them so brilliantly unique.
thing about Caravaggio's paintings that make them so brilliantly unique. At the time in painting, I described earlier that he uses emotion and realism in his paintings. The
models that a painter would use, traditionally they tended to be from the upper classes.
If you're painting a painting, you want it to be hanging around, you know, the king's court. You want it to be using models that were maybe concubines belonging to one of the royals,
but people that would have been considered of the higher classes.
Caravaggio did not do this.
Caravaggio was hanging around with prostitutes and thieves, you know.
I often wonder was he one of these wealthy hipsters?
Do you know, hanging wonder was he one of these wealthy hipsters
hanging around Stoneybatter
hanging around with lads
that are smoking heroin for authenticity
but
Caravaggio used to use the
the poor people
the criminals and the thieves
and prostitutes as the models for his paintings
and it's said of Caravaggio's
paintings that
you know if if a model had dirty fingernails he would paint those dirty fingernails if they had
teeth missing he would paint them and this hadn't been seen in art before because art was about
perfection but Caravaggio was about realism and I think all of this was that so he could simply save money
he was scamming his patrons
because he was a gangster motherfucker
but how does Caravaggio's paintings
and his style relate to our culture now
well I'll tell you
I'm going to hand you over for a little bit
to the words of unbelievable director
Martin Scorsese
who's directed such gangster classics
as Goodfellas and Casino
and he directed
Wolf of Wall Street
but also his earlier work Mean Streets
and this is what Scorsese had to say
about Caravaggio
with the Caravaggio, colours
in my mind,
when I see the compositions and when I see the light,
the way light is used, usually from a light source,
one light source is coming out,
it's as colorful as black and white, in my mind.
And this is the kind of thing we were looking to do
back in the 70s.
He sort of pervaded the entire bar sequences and mean streets,
there's no doubt about that.
The way I shot the camera movement, the choice of action, So there you have the genius Marty Scars,
Martin Scorsese,
speaking about the direct influence
that Caravaggio's style has on his own filmmaking, you know?
Scorsese's one of the most influential filmmakers
of the 20th century,
hands down, simple as that.
And you have him right there admitting
the effect that Caravaggio used to use in his paintings,
chiaroscuro it's known as, which means light and dark.
That's Scorsese saying right there that that's what he was trying to emulate
in his films.
And if you look at a film like Mean Streets from 77's all light and dark same with goodfellas and casino uses
extremely um extremely contrasted lights and darks almost like a beam of light on on people's hands
and faces and he's got scorseseese has another film called Nicolas Cage is in it
as an ambulance driver.
It's not that popular.
It's from the mid-90s.
I think it's a good film.
I think it's called
Bringing Out the Dead
with Nicolas Cage.
That film,
Jesus,
fucking
Nicolas Cage is driving an ambulance
in the pitch dark
and Scorsese shines a beam
onto his white shirt.
That's the most,
from a cinematographic point of view,
that's the most Caravaggio-esque thing I've seen Scorsese do.
But also what Scorsese mentioned there when he took it back to Main Streets
was how Caravaggio's choice of using, we'll say, the pimps and prostitutes
in his paintings
directly influenced how Scorsese casts his films
and how Scorsese uses, you know, real people
in his own fucking films, right?
And did this all start because of my theory
that Caravaggio was just trying to save some money because
of pigments. I don't know. You'll see this today too, this exact style kind of copied.
I don't know if you've been watching. There's a fantastic show on HBO at the moment called
The Deuce. D-E-U-C-E. and it's set in the 70s in manhattan 42nd street
and it's written by david simon who wrote the wire and if you haven't seen the juice give it
a squint it's fucking unreal it's about the pimps in manhattan in the 70s. It's fantastic. It's the best thing David Simon's done. I think since The Wire.
But.
It's.
It's visual style.
Is aping.
Mean Streets.
Which in itself.
Is aping Caravaggio.
But.
Back to Scorsese.
And his use of real people.
A recurring character. In.
Scorsese's film is his actual mother. Scorsese has used his mother for a few scenes in his films. She's in a casino but her best role
is in Goodfellas. There's an interesting little story here and how it relates back to Limerick.
And there's an interesting little story here, and how it relates back to Limerick.
There is a phenomenally violent scene in the film Goodfellas,
where Robert De Niro and Joe Pesci are in a bar.
And there's a character in the bar, played by Frank Vincent,
an unbelievable actor who died recently.
And Frank Vincent is a made man, which means that he's a full time mafia member
he's hardcore, he's untouchable
and De Niro and
Pesci are not full time
members, they're low life
low level mafia members
so what happens
is
this Frank
Vincent character, he starts
talking shit to Joe Pesci
Joe Pesci takes it personally and stabs him into
the neck with a biro
and then fucking De Niro
gets stuck in, anyway they end up beating
a mad man to death, which means
that's against the rules of the mafia
which means the boys if they get caught, they're dead
so they fuck Frank Vincent's
body into the boot of their car to try and bury him somewhere.
Oh, Frank Vincent, if you've seen him, he's got a big head of white hair and a white beard.
So anyway, they're driving off to the woods to dig a hole and to bury him.
But halfway there they get a bit peckish so they call in to Joe Pesci's mother's house
with the intention of eating a bit of food and getting a knife so they can cut the body
up. So anyway Joe Pesci's mother is played by Martin Scorsese's mother in real life
and that's Scorsese using that Caravaggio technique if you want an Italian mother an
authentic Italian mother then you get my fucking mother because that's what Caravaggio would have
done so Joe Pesci's mother is in this scene and she's fantastic because you can tell she is not
a real actress you can tell she is not a real actress.
You can tell.
There's even points, to be honest, where she almost looks into the camera lens.
And what you get in that scene,
it's the type of beautiful honesty that you get in a Caravaggio painting.
It's the honesty of an untrained actor trying their best.
And she gets away with it because she's got Joe Pesci on the left and De Niro on the right
and they're fucking
real actors
so anyway the conversation goes on
and Joe Pesci's
ma
she takes out a painting
and the painting
is of
a man on a river in a boat with a white beard and on his boat are
two terriers two terrier dogs and one's looking left and one's looking right and joe pesci and
deniro joke about the painting because the mother is going what do you think of my painting i did
this lovely painting and pesci says look at the guy with the beard in the painting he reminds me of somebody
two boys start laughing they're talking about the fella that they've got outside in the trunk
Frank Vincent but anyway I did a bit of research about this painting that
happens that you see in in the the goodfellas film that fucking the mother is holding and it turns out the painting is based on a photograph
of a man from Limerick
it's a banker from 1978
called John Weaving
and his two dogs Brockie and Twiggy
and
they're on the river Shannon
just out by
just out near Shannon Airport
on the river near Dirty Nelly's pub
and this photograph ended up in National Geographic magazine.
And then it was found by the co-writer of Goodfellas, Nicholas Pelegi.
And Nicholas Pelegi, he got his mother to paint the painting
of the photograph of John Weaving and his two dogs from Limerick.
And then Martin Scorsese's mother
was the one holding the painting
so Scorsese and Pelleggi
they both conspired with both of their mothers
to put this painting of a Limerick man
in fucking Goodfellas
so that excuses why I just gave you
half an hour
about the history of paints
Caravaggio
and how that
all relates
back to Limerick
Yart
jeez I hope you
like art and
culture this week
lads
because that's all
I seem to be
talking about
I'm in an art
and culture
mood
and I hope
the chat there
about Caravaggio
and art history
and painting
wasn't too isolating
because as well
it is quite a challenge
to talk about
the history of
fucking painting
via an
aural format
that's quite difficult
just drinking
some lovely warm tea
did you see the Saturday Night Live
did a sketch there during the week
with Saoirse Ronan
and it was about
it was a piss take of Ireland
it was a piss take of our
national airline Aer Lingus
and it was very strange it was quite
absurd it didn't seem to have any point it was it was Saoirse Ronan playing an air hostess and a
lady and it's the plane is delayed because there's loads of dogs on the runway and the pilot owns
loads of dogs and it's about the air hostess is going Asher you know there's a dog on the runway and the pilot owns loads of dogs and it's about the air hostess is
going, you know there's a dog on the runway and I kind of liked it you
know I like the elements of it now they made some rather lazy potato jokes as
people do but I think the writers were just catering for idiots with that one
were just catering for idiots with that one
with the dog bit
I think there might have been a bit of a deeper
a deeper satire behind it
which I appreciated
I'll play a little excerpt right now
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laughter laughter What's the delay then? I heard it was a dog. Oh, here's the lady with the orange sticks now.
Maybe she has more information.
All right.
Folks, we've got a dog on the runway.
It's got sad eyes.
The soul of Oscar Wilde.
So we're going to have to wait.
We're going to let the dog choose when he's ready to move.
It's his will.
It's his story, not ours. Do you understand?
Good. Good then. Right. Let's do our safety presentation. it's his story not ours do you understand good then right
let's do our safety presentation
do all of you have your pamphlets
see I don't mind that
there's a dog on the runway
and he's got sad eyes and the soul of Oscar Wilde
I quite like that
I think that's quite imaginative
that's you know
that's a line that's
searching for something deeper
and what I do like about
you know like I said
there's a bit of laziness there, there's a few stereotypes
but this business of the plane
not running because
there's a dog on the runway
it's
like a commentary
it's like the Yanks
striving to understand the Irish work ethic.
Because in Ireland,
when we're faced with a problem,
we'll say,
Asher, it'll be grand.
It'll be grand.
Don't worry about it.
It'll be grand.
That's our response to everything.
And we're not lazy cunts.
We just,
you know, it'll be grand, and we understand what it'll be grand means, it'll be grand means someone's gonna sort it out, I'll sort it out,
but don't worry about it, let's not get our knickers in a twist, it'll be grand, all right,
but it doesn't mean we're not gonna work, it means we're going to do it we're just not going to get all serious
about it we're going to chill out you know the brits have keep calm and carry on we've got it'll
be grand but the yanks don't get this the yanks are like what the fuck do you mean it's going to
be grand are you people mad and they interpret this as our innate absurdity
they see this as us being absurd
and we are
we are an absurd people
and I'm incredibly proud
of how absurd we are
absurd our culture is
you know you see this in
your fucking Samuel Beckett
Jesus Christ
imagine a yank
watching Samuel Beckett
fucking two hour play
about a lad eating dog biscuits in a bin
but I do enjoy
I like that sketch
I did like that sketch
I thought it was
aside from the tokenism
it was an interesting probing
into Irish culture
and the Irish work ethic
but on the other side of the pond this week
the Brits
if you've been following
politics
the Brits are trying to get the fuck
out of the EU they've got Brexit and they need
to come up with a deal pretty quickly
but
someone's come along and stuck
a lollipop into
the dog shit
because the Brits know for the first time ever are having to realise that there is a Someone's come along and stuck a lollipop into the dog shit.
Because the Brits now, for the first time ever, are having to realise that there is a border in Northern Ireland.
Which, to be honest, to the average person living in Britain, they don't even think about it.
A lot of them don't even fucking know what Northern Ireland is.
And some news agencies went onto the streets and asked british people to draw the irish border you know in our country to actually to get their reactions as to you know
why do you think the irish care about this border and the people the british people that were asked
they haven't a fucking clue and some of the responses were downright offensive she says
she says
the southern Irish are just going to have to
lump it
I do think the Irish are just
making trouble because they lost
it's a bit petty
really isn't it
you can't always have what you want in life
I think
every single Irish person
in the country when they heard that statement
wanted to reach for a balaclava
and some semtex and it radicalised us, something deep inside us it radicalised you and then
you have to push it down and cop onto yourself, like fucking hell, that there sums up the
kind of, a lot of the British attitude towards us
as an island, it's like you're looking
at that woman going, do you not understand
you know, why this
border exists, do you not understand
how much we went through as a nation
to get our independence
do you not understand the 800 years of
shit that you put us through
and the penal laws and all this stuff
and of course
when I say this I'm not you know to the British
listeners I'm not trying to put you
on a guilt trip I'm speaking
about your imperial overlords
not you I don't expect you to take any
responsibility for the actions of your grandparents
this pretty much and I
like to
analyse this from a
post-colonial perspective
because I'm a cultural Marxist
the Brits
they kind of take us
seriously but when it comes down to stuff like
this you can tell they really don't you know
it's like
contrast that with the Yanks
and the Saturday Night Live.
I mean, the Yanks have a
misty-eyed vision of Ireland
as being, you know, the land of fun
and whatever.
And like you saw with the SNL sketch,
there was a bit of absurdity there
in how they read us.
But the Yanks don't have,
they never colonised us
what the British did
were a former colony of theirs
and
what this recent Brexit bullshit
is showing us is that
when you go
as an Irish person
when you go to England
people generally meet you
quite favourably
they think you're really funny and a bit of crack.
And people really love the Irish there.
But what Brexit has shown us is that they're treating us like a child that's crying over their boy band splitting up.
When it comes down to it, we are not taken seriously.
We're really not.
We're not respected. We're not seen as a real country.
We're infantilized.
And that is something that a former colony, especially a large colonizer like Britain,
they tend to infantilize and other the culture that they colonized
and we're seeing that
quite blatantly
in the response
to the
to the Brexit thing
a lot of the people ask
they don't even know
what the border is
or why it exists
and we're being infantilized
we're a child
who's thrown its ties
out of the pram
I'll entertain you but as soon as you speak up as soon as you try and be assertive We're a child who's thrown its ties out of the pram.
I'll entertain you, but as soon as you speak up,
as soon as you try and be assertive,
as soon as you say that you have rights,
that you have a right to exist,
they will go, oh, come on, really, come on.
Come on now, Paddy.
Go back to your fiddle and your Guinness and do that over in the corner.
Have a bit of crack.
We like you when you're doing that, but not when you're speaking about your right to exist not when you're speaking about
your independence come on now really this is serious business this is Brexit this is serious
Paddy that's the vibe that I'm getting and it's a shame to see and you know can you blame them
and you know, can you blame them
British people have an education
system
that when it comes to
the history of Britain
it's geared towards
getting the non-academic students
to join the war effort
to join the RAF
you know, that's what the British education
system is geared towards
if you're not academic
get a career in the army
which means you need to have a degree of nationalism
and pride, and they're certainly
not going to talk to them about how the British Empire
raped the world
and Ireland
so it was a shame this week to see that
you know
and I'm just, I'm contrasting those two moments in culture this week.
You know, the Saturday Night Live, where they allowed us a degree of complexity in our kind of cultural identity and consciousness.
And the British post-colonial reading of the Irish as infants with sick rolling down
our bellies
who need a little smack in the bum
and are not allowed to talk when the adults are talking
fuck you lads
but to the
the now 40,000
British people that tune into this podcast
every week
a few things earlier
I did mention there
that woman's comments radicalised us
and made us want to reach for Semtex and a Bata Claiva
that was a joke
ok it didn't literally do that
ok Irish people know what I'm talking about
I'm not saying
the IRA are coming back
most Irish people don't don't want the IRA or support them
at all, but what it does is it, there's a little thing in Irish culture, there's a little
thing, there's some little heartbeat within us, that when we hear a rebel song or whatever,
it does make us very, gives us a national pride, and
one of the things that we do have pride in is that we actually, we beat the British Empire,
we beat, you know, we invented fucking guerrilla warfare and beat the British Army, and that is
something, we beat the British Army with its own weapons, okay?
Get a look at Ken Loach's film, The Wind That Shakes the Barley.
Get a look at that film.
A lot of Irish people had grandparents in the old IRA.
Now, that's not the provisional IRA that were blowing up London, but the old IRA that fought for our independence. My own grandfather was in the old IRA, now that's not the provisional IRA that were blowing up London but the old IRA that fought for our independence
my own grandfather was in
the old IRA and my granduncles down in West
Cork in Tom Barry's Flying Column
which is what the film
The Wind That Shakes the Barley is about
so it does
we're quite proud of that
we're quite proud of that
our culture is
to be one, to be the underdog
that fought and that
won, so when we hear a British person
say that we lost to have
such an ignorant position, it's
triggering
to say the least
the other thing too, you know
our culture
is
the Irish flag.
The Irish flag, I think, is one of the most beautiful things about our culture
because it's not, it's the opposite of a flag of colonialism.
It's green, white and orange.
And the green represents the Irish Catholic.
The orange represents the Protestants, the orange men
the DUP that now live in this country
and the white represents
the potential for
peace and a shared future
between those two different cultures and communities
I think that's beautiful, I think that's
class and our flag is not
stained in the blood
of
taking over other people that gives us a great sense of pride because it's all
we fucking have in our history that's that's all we have um we're a young country but to the
british people listening please don't be sending me direct messages uh apologizing or explaining
yourself okay you don't need to do that at all.
Nobody is holding you responsible
and especially to the British people who've gone out of
the way to educate themselves and are embarrassed by
that woman's comments.
I don't expect an apology
and it's not your fault.
If you want to
if you want to know,
Jesus,
that must be shit for you what can i do
as a british person i i what you can do is just learn go on to wikipedia learn about the irish
war of independence learn about irish history go on to youtube look at a decent documentary
about irish history and just learn because we we don't want British people feeling guilty.
But what's very, very hurtful to us is when a British person is ignorant around the pain of our history
that was caused by the imperial colonialism
that was carried out in your name.
So just educate yourself and we'll be grand, alright?
And it's no hassle
don't worry about it
cuz
I'm
you know
you're just as entitled
to a podcast hug
as anybody else listening
and I'm here for you
to give you a podcast hug too
little Brit
don't worry about it
before I move on
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Every week I like to recommend an album that I think if you enjoy music, you should have a listen to.
This week I would like to recommend Pet Sounds by The Beach Boys.
Go on to Spotify. Preferably listen to the stereo mix, please.
Now you might be wondering, you know, if you're not into your music,
you're going, the fucking Beach Boys?
The Beach Boys?
What do I listen to the Beach Boys for?
The Beach Boys, especially Brian Wilson,
the songwriter and producer,
fucking genius, okay?
And just one of the greatest producers of all time.
And he took his sound from Phil Spector's
Wall of Sound of the 50s,
but he took it on to another level.
And get a listen to Pet Sounds.
Unbelievable songwriting, unbelievable production,
and a truly revolutionary album for 1966.
And if I'm not mistaken,
it was a year before Sgt. Pepper's by the Beatles,
and I think the Beatles listened to Pet Sounds
got freaked out and said
fuck me, listen to what the
Beach Boys are doing and then the Beatles
went to George Martin, their producer and said
can you do what Brian Wilson is doing please
because they're beating us
I'm about 80% sure that's what happened
I think it is time for me
to answer some of the questions that you ask me every week on Twitter
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Kieran McDonald asks,
What do you think about the abundance of manky cunts
on the comment sections of Irish news websites
versus the lack of a far-right party in Irish politics
compared with the rest of Europe?
The Pegida Ireland setting up, for example,
and how they got fucked out of it, that was class.
So what Ciarán is saying there is that
if you spend time on Irish social media,
specifically common sections of news articles,
the Daily Mail, the Irish Times, the Journal, whatever,
if it's a subject about refugees,
there tends to be a fierce amount of Irish racists, a lot of Irish racists.
But however, we don't seem to have any strong, extreme right-wing, Nazi-esque movement or party going on in the country, right? So there's a bit of a dichotomy the people are there but they haven't properly organized and when Pegida which were a European um far-right party tried
to set up in Dublin they were they got their heads kicked in by left-wingers and it was a combination
of kind of Irish Republican communist socialist people and kind of an anti-fat element
and i think the answer to that question is and now this is just opinion and this is a hot take
as well so tell me to fuck off if you disagree but it's just my opinion it's because um
the irish republican culture is too strong in this country and
the Irish Republican culture is too strong in this country and Irish Republicanism, whether it be more on the socialist side or not,
it tends to be quite intersectional.
You know, if you look at the up north in Belfast,
you look at the murals in nationalist or Republican areas,
you'll see solidarity with Palestine and things like that.
So I think it's a bit of a hostile environment
for the far right group to set up
because
there's people there who just fucking
kick their heads in and that's what we saw
outside the GPO when Pegida tried to set up
there's people around going
no no no we've been here longer
just back to a few tried to set up. There's people around going, no, no, no, no, we've been here longer.
Just back to a few, you know, a few podcasts ago,
I mentioned Bernadette Devlin when she was given the key to New York.
She gave it to the Black Panthers
because traditionally Irish republicanism
has been intersectional.
It finds solidarity with other communities around the world
who are fighting an oppressive imperialism.
And that's quite strong in Irish culture and it's a force for good in that respect because I don't want fucking Nazis on the street
stay on the fucking internet you know if they're on the internet that means they're
scared to mobilize and that's a good thing. Julio Bartolozo who if, if I'm not mistaken, is one of the few South African fans of this podcast.
He asks,
Albert Ellis said,
The world isn't for you or against you. It doesn't give a shit.
Can you talk about this, RE Mental Health? Would the Dalai Lama agree?
That's an interesting one.
Albert Ellis is a psychologist who founded the field rational
emotion a rational emotive behavioral therapy which is the parent of cbt cognitive behavioral
therapy and ellis was kind of ellis was very rational you You know, Ellis would believe, you know, it does not matter what happens to you in your life, whether that be good or bad.
Your personal happiness depends on the attitude that you have towards what happens to you.
I kind of agree with that to an extent.
To an extent I agree with that.
I believe in accepting personal responsibility
for how you react to things, I allowed myself to get a bit angry earlier about the, that
British woman who said that shit about Ireland, you know, but at the same time, you know,
on reflection, I'm not going to allow it to
get in the way of my own personal mental health or emotional boundaries
I do not agree with that woman's words but I have complete and I cannot control that woman's words
but I do have full power over how I react to them
ultimately I would like to react to her
with a degree of compassion
for my own mental health
and that's where you bring in that Dalai Lama stuff
I suppose
my own mental health kind of practice for myself
I bring a bit of CBT in
I bring a bit of existential psychology
a bit of Buddhism
so I would ultimately like to have
compassion for that woman
I would like to go this woman said these comments out of an ignorance.
And maybe if she was enlightened and had it explained to her in the right way,
she might react with compassion and change her opinion.
Some people might disagree with that.
The reason I do that is, again, for my own mental health.
I don't
want to carry anger around would the dalai lama agree with albert ellis's position the world isn't
for you or against you it doesn't give a shit i would think the dalai lama would agree with that
because buddhism is a very personal thing i mean one of my favorite things
about buddhism is i think someone asked the buddha once is there a god and buddha responded
if you're worrying about whether or not there's a god then you're not living in the present moment
which i thought was beautiful and some people use that to argue that buddhism is an atheistic religion
and some people use that to argue that Buddhism is an atheistic religion you know what or would the
the world isn't for you or against you it doesn't give a shit
I'd say the Dalai Lama would agree that the world isn't for you or against you
but I don't think he'd agree that it doesn't give a shit
he would argue that there is a compassion out there in other people and I'd like to think
that too people do give a shit about you some people don't if you want to go evolutionary
psychology on it we'll take it to Dunbar's number there's an evolutionary psychologist called Robin
Dunbar and in his research he found that the maximum amount of
people that a human being is capable of caring about is 150 that is Dunbar's number and he found
that we cannot have empathy or compassion for anyone outside of that group of 150 for chimpanzees, it's smaller. It's 30.
Maybe that's what it is.
150 people.
You can give a shit about them, but beyond that,
that's when you can fully dehumanize and go genocide.
And that's how genocide happens.
That question really confused me, Julio. Thank you.
Matthew Branigan asks, what's the crack with
sleep paralysis sleep paralysis is interesting have you ever had sleep paralysis it's highly
unpleasant it's when you wake up in the middle of the night and you're half awake and half asleep
and you can't move your body and you try and scream but nothing comes out and some people
some people even imagine that
there's someone in the room with them touching them sleep paralysis is and i can't talk about
this now in in the correct psychological terminology because i've forgotten but there's
a little switch in your brain and when we go asleep like when when you dream, you run in your dreams, you move in your dreams,
right, so there's a switch in your brain that turns off your muscles, so that when you're asleep,
and you dream about running, you don't actually start running in bed, and wake yourself up,
so this switch turns off your muscles, sleep paralysis happens when you wake from sleep,
when you wake from sleep but this switch
does not come on
so you're paralysed for a little bit
but some people
and they say that it's people
that are electromagnetically sensitive
and live near pylons
they experience intense hallucinations
during sleep paralysis
I've never gotten that
I've just gotten standard sleep paralysis
but it's something but
it's something that's been present in art throughout the years sleep paralysis it's
represented in paintings through a figure called the hag if you type the hag paintings into google
images you'll get loads of paintings throughout the years of somebody asleep with an old woman
kneeling on their chest because this is what people used to dream they used to dream that
they were asleep and an old woman came in and sat in their chest and today what people dream
when they get sleep paralysis is being awake in the room and an alien coming in and abducting them
because the hallucinations that you get with sleep paralysis are relevant to your culture at the time.
If you don't want to get sleep paralysis,
don't sleep on your fucking back.
For me anyway, it only happens when I sleep on my back,
so I stop doing it.
When I do sleep on my back, I'll get sleep paralysis,
and it's not pleasant at all.
God bless.
Credmo asks,
Do worms get drunk when they
Bury alcoholics
Erm
I doubt that
But I tell you who does get drunk
Do you know in
Around August
And September
When wasps are really aggressive
Right
They sting you more.
They piss you off more when it's getting cold.
And when you're growing up, people say,
oh, the wasps are dying off.
And when the wasp knows it's going to die because of the cold,
he acts like a cunt.
Well, what I found out is the reason wasps are aggressive
in the autumn, in the late autumn,
is that because they're drunk.
They're going up into trees and eating apples that are going rotten or they're trying to get into the
apple that has the worm in it and it's going rotten because the worm is in there and the
wasps are getting drunk off rotten fruit and then like human beings they just get aggressive when
they're drunk and they come down and sting you into the nose
so
that half answered your question
I don't think a dead alcoholic
is going to have enough alcohol in his blood
for a worm to get pissed off at
but you never know
Mark Devlin
asks where do you feel Irish comedy
in general is at
in relation to the US and UK?
Irish comedy is in a fucking terrible place,
because,
here's the thing, right?
The national broadcaster, RTE, has got no money.
I started off,
in comedy, well, I started off by myself on the internet for 7 or 8 years but I was able to get a TV gig when I was quite young on Republic of
Telly and I was given 4 minutes each week on national television to write a comedy sketch
and what this allowed me to do was to work with a team of professional
people with producers with directors to see how things are actually made to understand how to make
a piece of comedy for television to learn things like story writing and structure very important
mechanics of making a piece of professional work. This system is now gone.
There is no sketch comedy show on RTE
for a young comedian who's only learning their craft
to work with a team of professionals.
This doesn't exist anymore.
So as a result, when you now look at Irish Facebook video comedy,
okay, it's very, very poor.
Some of the ideas are there, but Irish Facebook video
comedy completely lacks structure, or editing, or any of this stuff that you have to, the craft that
you have to learn, because young Irish Facebook comedians, they have no outlet to actually receive
experience, or training,ish comedy in general is always
going to be a tough one especially if we're trying to do it on television because here's the thing
if you're trying to do anything creative or different to do that means you're going to
reach a smaller niche audience now to reach a niche audience in america that means you go
into a channel like adult, you still get millions of
people watching that. In the UK, if you're niche, like we'll say the Mighty Boosh would
have been, or Brass Eye, you still get quite a lot of people watching, enough money and
viewers to sustain the program. If you try and do something niche and weird on Irish
television, we've got a population of 4 million million you could be dealing with 5,000 people
watching your niche comedy show and that is financially not enough for the channel to
commission it so in Ireland the only comedy that gets commissioned is incredibly mainstream bland
stuff because that's economically kind of how it has to work
we did a four-part tv series there last year for RTE.
Kind of mainstream but.
We got to be very very creative with it.
I mean one episode was a half hour about the history of philosophy.
No one fucking watched it.
Nobody watched it.
Because that's just how it is.
And as a result. i'm not getting any phone
calls off rte i'm currently working on two projects with british television but with rte they're broke
they can't afford to take a risk on something nuts so they'll just go with something boring
and mainstream and i can understand why that's the case. And that's Irish comedy. Final question by Ludo Payne.
What does space smell like?
That's quite interesting.
There'd be no smell in space because there's no air in space.
And the molecules of scent need to travel on air.
There's also no sound in space.
Because sound is the vibration of air molecules.
And there's no fucking air in space. You can hear nothing. There's no music in space. Because sound is the vibration of air molecules. And there's no fucking air in space.
You can hear nothing.
There's no music in space.
This is what I love about music.
Music is symmetrical vibrations of air.
And when we listen to music and we hear it as pleasurable.
That's our brains doing the mathematics.
That's our ears.
Seeing shapes like triangles and squares.
Things that are balanced and symmetrical.
So when you listen to music it's like looking at a pleasurable painting.
That's very well balanced and symmetrical.
Just with sound.
Isn't that lovely?
Alright.
I'm going to leave you go this week.
Thank you very much for listening.
Thank you for talking out.
Please subscribe to the
podcast recommend it to a friend and uh leave a nice review i had a lot of fun this week we had
some very diverse topics and what i would ask of you for the rest of the week look after yourself
um have some compassion for yourself.
Forgive yourself if you embarrass yourself.
If you speak.
If you get angry with somebody.
Forgive yourself.
You know?
Have some self-compassion.
And that will lead towards some compassion for somebody else.
And before you know it, you're feeling happy.
And you're happy with your life.
And the other thing. This time time of year the weather is shit
and a lot of people find themselves getting a bit depressed over this
over the shit weather
because it's bleak and it's cold
go out into that weather and go for a walk
and try not to view
you know the trees with no leaves and the hard ground try
not to view that through a negative lens view nature as that that's part of nature's process
you know and that there is a beauty and happiness to winter
don't be viewing it through that human lens because we're looking for sunshine and we're
looking for flowers because that reaffirms our existence but there's
many animals out there and they're all about winter there's little you know the
toads are off or not that the frogs are hibernating having great crack having a
good bit of sleep and there's that the worms are happy they're underneath the
ground there's lots of little animals that are not at risk of predators
because it's too cold and they're hibernating.
The trees are just resting.
They're chilling out.
They're waiting for new growth.
They're leaves that have died.
Those leaves are now going into the ground
and getting ready to fertilize the earth for new growth in the spring.
So find the beauty in the winter don't let
the weather bring you down don't let the the short evenings like even though it's getting dark at five
o'clock in the evening the sun is at a really beautiful angle and you'll get gorgeous colors
in the sky in the evening if you look for them there is a beauty in winter and there's a beauty in fucking autumn.
And you have a choice about whether that upsets you or not.
Don't let it get you down.
The rain as well. Rain can be beautiful.
Find the beauty in it because it's natural. It's the real deal.
And there's no such thing as ugliness in nature.
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