The Blindboy Podcast - I cant describe what this one is about, you'll just have to trust my process and listen to it please
Episode Date: November 12, 2025Spanish coffee, the history of suits, dog pulled trousers, persian desserts, fairy fog Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....
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I'm recording this quite late tonight I'm sipping on coffee to keep myself alert not just any coffee
My fetish is a quite disgusting Spanish coffee.
It's called Tare facto.
I'm a big fan of cultural scarcity.
I'm the last generation to experience cultural scarcity.
I grew up in a time when if you heard a song on the radio
or on an advert on television and it was the most amazing song you've ever fucking heard.
If you didn't get the name of that song in that moment,
you may never hear it again.
and you just had to accept it
you had to accept that loss
or
you might be staying up late at night time
flicking through TV channels
because that's all you had was fucking TV
and there's a film on
a late night film
I remember being a child
would have been a Friday or Saturday night
staying up way past my bedtime
probably one in the morning
and I flicked on the television
and there was this movie on
I'd never seen anything like it
the time. It was about this teenage girl who ran away from home. She came from absolute poverty
in Los Angeles and then this creepy old man tries to pick her up in his car and tries to
assault her but then she pulls out a gun and shoots him into the mouth and then as I
watched the film I slowly realise fucking hell this is the story of little red riding hood but
it's set in Los Angeles in the 90s. I was 10 or 11. This was the greatest thing I'd ever
seen in my fucking life and I fancied the girl in it. I really fancied the girl in it. And then
the film was over and I couldn't sleep. I couldn't sleep thinking about the incredible film that
I'd just seen. Thinking about the girl in it how I fancied. Thinking about the man who had his face
blown open and his weird teeth. Now normally when you were watching a film there'd be an ad bray
and then just before they go back to the film the announcer would say
and now back to our Friday night film and they'd give you the name of it
this was one in the morning they didn't do that at one in the morning
they just caught straight to the ads and went back to the film so I was like
this is fucking incredible no one's telling me what it's called I waited to the end
I watched the credits there was no announcer I'm like oh fuck this is gone
this is gone now I can't even
can go to the video shop to get a video to see this again and this is amazing it's gone what
am i going to do the next day i looked for a newspaper to see i think it was channel four trying to find
what was that film that was on last night nothing there was nothing i could fucking do about it we didn't
have teletext there was nothing i could do about it so then i had to wait until monday morning in
school and i asked everybody you didn't see that film on friday night did you get one in the morning
but it was it was it was a film about this this girl she was 13 or 14 or 14
she had bland hair
and she used to carry a gun around in her purse
and she was really poor
and she shot a fella into the face
and then you realise at the end of it
that it's actually red riding hood
but it's set now
no one had seen it
because we were 10
and no one else had stayed up
till one in the morning
to try and see films
no one had seen it
and this movie
just had to live in my head
as a memory
and I would lie awake
and replay it
in my head over and over
until it became detached from what it originally was
and I had to worship it like a religious item
like a religious apparition
and when I'd meet people I'd say
I saw this fucking film once
right and it was about this
and then that happened and that happened
and people would listen to you
because you can't pull out YouTube on your phone
and look for it you had to listen to the person
describe the film that they're never going to see either
years later
in the mid-2000s when we had the internet
and YouTube and Google
I finally found the movie
and it was called Freeway from 1996
starring Reese Witherspoon
a teenage Reese Witherspoon
and Kiefer Sutherland
and I watched it and it was a piece of shit
It's all right
Look, it's okay, it's an okay film
It's an okay film
It would have been made around the time of
There's a bit of Pulp Fiction in there
There's a bit of boys in the hood in there
There's a little bit of Bazlarman's Romeo and Juliet.
The point is, when I finally got to see this film in the mid-2000s,
I was let down, I was disappointed.
I wished I hadn't found this film.
I wished that I'd just left it as this fantastic, wonderful memory.
This wonderful memory, because when I was 10, or whatever age I was,
this was incredible.
I'd never seen anything like it.
It was astounding.
Because it was taken away, because of the scarcity of it,
because I could never find out what it was.
I just made it this massive thing in my mind
and then was let down when I finally found it.
Same with fucking...
I was about nine years of age
and this Honda Civic pulled up with two hard cunts inside it,
windows rolled down, blaring out,
160 BPM rave music.
And they were playing this one song
and it was the hardest, fastest rave tune I'd ever heard in my life.
Like at this point I'd have been listening to The Prodigy every single day
and now I was hearing something faster and harder than the Prodigy.
And I stopped in my tracks and I'm like, what is this tune?
And I'm staring in at the car with the two boys in it.
This is a stoplight.
The whole thing must have lasted 30 seconds.
And then the lads drove off and the tune disappears with the car and bends.
in tone with the Doppler effect
and I was just, I nearly cried
I'm like I need that fucking song
I need to know what that song was my God
and I marched into HMV
in Limerick City
and I marched into Empire Music
which was a record shop at the time
and I was a little child
and I had to go up to the counter
and I had to hum
I had to say to the people behind the counter
I heard this song
It's like a rave song.
It was really fast.
And it went like this.
And I would do it.
So,
I was really young.
So I'd go into the music shop and I would hum the song for the people working in the music shop.
And then they would bring their friends and go,
do you know what this song is that this little boy is humming?
And then they go, can you come back next week?
My friend Deky knows dance music.
He's going to, and it kept happening over and over again.
Now I realize they were just laughing at the humming child.
Now I realized that's what was happening.
But I didn't give a fuck.
I was like, I need to know what this song is.
And anyone you bring who's willing to listen to me
who might know what this song is, the song that I'm going to hum.
I don't care if you want to laugh at me.
Tell me the fucking song.
I need to hear it again, please.
Because it was the greatest song that I've ever heard in my life.
I can't get it out of my head.
And I must hear it again.
maybe 10 years later I finally find the song, 15 years later possibly,
finally find the song.
And the song was called Tears Don't Lie
by a German happy hardcore producer called Mark O.
Did hearing it compare to the memory
of thinking that this was the greatest song ever made?
No, is it the greatest song I've ever heard
or the greatest song ever made? Absolutely not.
But to me, as a little child,
whatever could have happened on that day, it might have been beautiful weather,
I might have just had a good day, but in those 30 seconds,
at that stoplight, this was the greatest song that I'd ever heard, and then it was gone.
And the memory just reinforced itself as this, it became heaven, it became a fantasy land,
it became religious, and I say that, I've made this comparison before,
but there's this very unique cultural phenomenon called cargo cults.
You don't see this as much anymore,
but there were islands in Micronesia,
around near Polynesia, tiny, remote,
uncontacted islands in the middle of the Pacific Ocean
that had people living there in tribes
who had no contact with the modern world
until World War II
and suddenly
American soldiers start
landing on their islands
in their plains
and they meet the tribes people
and they give them gifts
they give them chocolate, they give them sugar
they give them cigarettes
Coca-Cola
now they can't communicate
because it's an uncontacted tribe
and yanks but they
understand exchange and gift
giving
but it's so shocking
and so strange
and so new
that the people on the island
they just naturally assume
that these weird looking men
that came down on flying machines
they just assume
these must be gods
they have to be gods
like they're drinking a can of coke
they don't have
they don't have fizzy things
they don't have a lot of sugar
they may not even have metal
and now they're drinking a can of coke
given to them
by a white man who came down in a
plane and this happened in a few incredibly isolated islands in the Pacific Ocean during World
War II. World War II ends and then the Americans leave, the soldiers leave, and then the people
in the island. Years pass and they start to tell stories about when the gods arrived, when the
gods arrived and brought us Coca-Cola and brought us chocolate, when the gods came down on flying
machines and then slowly but surely the people in the tribe start to develop religious practices
around the memory of the time the gods came to the island and brought things so they start to
design runways made out of bamboo and they start to do religious rituals that look like
US soldiers doing military drills and they're making religious rituals about a
everything they remember from the behaviour of the US soldiers.
And the reason they're doing this is they hope that maybe one day they'll come back
and bring more stuff.
Because what happens as the 20th century progresses and globalization progresses,
every so often, a ship might crash in the Pacific and cargo will wash up on shore.
A crate of Coca-Cola might wash up.
So then the people in the island, the tribes people, they start to think,
well our prayers are working now
this religion that we have
is working because this shit
is washing up on shore and that
becomes known as a cargo cult
and it's a very fascinating thing
and sometimes it's used
to laugh at those people or to
belittle those people or to portray them
as primitive to confuse US
soldiers with gods
no it's just the human
mind when it's exposed to scarcity
there's no difference between
that and me here and that
song when I'm a kid and then going into HMV and humming it.
I'm in a cargo cult.
At that moment, something wonderful happened, it's gone forever
and I need to hold onto its memory and hope that I can bring it back somehow
through the ritual of humming.
But now as a middle-aged man,
if I smoke a little bit of baldy, a couple of cans,
I will throw on, tears don't lie by Marco,
and try and relive that little moment.
but that there is cultural scarcity
and now what's becoming scarce
are those opportunities
like even when I travel abroad
like I've been touring
touring as a professional entertainer
since
maybe 2009
and you used to be able to rely upon
if I go to Canada
if I go to Toronto
or if I go to America
or if I go to Australia
15 years ago, these places felt quite different to Ireland.
And I mean the way that buildings are designed,
the clothes that people are wearing,
the music that people are listening to, the food that people are eating.
Each time you go to a different country or a different city,
you get a little bit of culture shock.
Everything's different.
And the novelty of that experience,
it's wonderful because it forces you into the present moment.
when everything looks different and tastes different
you have to experience it in the present moment
because everything's exciting
and then you just hold onto it as a memory of your holiday
but I'm going back to these countries
every two, three years for the past 15 years
and then I notice over time
yet less and less of a shock
because global culture is becoming completely homogenised
we're all on Instagram
we're all on TikTok whether you're in Australia
or Canada or America or Ireland
or England, whatever the fuck.
It's all the same memes. It's all the same
music. And the last time
I was walking around
the mall
in Toronto.
I'm just like, holy fuck.
There's the body shop.
Oh, there's Zara.
And you walk into the Zara
and you walk into the body shop and it's like,
I might as well be in fucking Limerick
because everything
absolutely everything is the exact same
back home. And then you look around and all the people are wearing the exact same clothes.
And then you look up and the light fixtures are the same. Everything is the same no matter
where you go in the world because it's all being made in China. And this is globalisation.
This is cultural homogenisation and this is real. But what you lose then is the wonder and novelty
of scarcity. So when I do find something that's rare and scarce, I try and real. I try and
respect it. I had two things that I was respecting. Number one, there's a type of sparkling water
that I can only get in Spain called Vici Catalan, which tastes a little bit like bread soda.
I think I've done an entire podcast on it about six years ago. I can only get this sparkling water
in Spain. I know I can go online. I can go online and I can order it and I can have it sent
to my house in Ireland very easily. No problem at all. I write.
refuse to do it. I need that sparkling water to stay in Spain. I need to worship it. I need to treat
it like a religious item, something that I can't have. I can't touch. It needs to stay as a
memory, as a taste that I can recall. And then all the lovely, wonderful memories of being in Spain
come back when I do that. Because this isn't about sparkling water. It's about wonder and memory
and value.
There's an Oscar Wilde quote
which is
through a slit too wide
there comes no wonder
and I think what he was referring
to there was
like being able to see
into a beautiful garden
but you can only see
you can only peek in with your eye
so you can't see the whole garden
just a little bit
and you have to wonder
about what the rest of that garden
must be like
behind the high walls
same with my Spanish
sparkling water
through a slit too wide
there comes no wonder
I need to leave it in Spain and recall it and memorize it and look forward to it and know
if I ordered this to Ireland and I can drink this sparkling water whenever I want it loses value
it loses wonder so I don't fuck with that that's a religious item to me there was one other
thing that I was treating in a similar way that I was trying to keep scarce and I just couldn't
resist it.
Shit Spanish coffee.
Do you ever go
to a coffee shop in
Newarka?
One of the little Spanish
cafes and you say, can I
have an Americano? Or can I just
have a coffee? Or cafe can lece,
as they call it. And you sit down
and you can see, oh, they're using a coffee machine.
Okay, this is proper
bean to cup coffee. It's real
fucking coffee. And then they
down to you and they give you the worst cup of coffee you've ever tasted in your life.
And every single Spanish cafe serves the exact same cup of shit.
And you're drinking it going, is this instant?
What the fuck is this?
This isn't like any other coffee I've tasted anywhere.
I can clearly see they're using espresso machines.
This is real coffee.
Why is it so terrible?
But you're in Spain.
You're on holiday.
You're relaxed.
you're with friends
everything is beautiful and wonderful
you tolerate the shit coffee
you don't care that the coffee is shit
because you're in fucking Spain and everything is
different and magnificent
and then before you know it you leave Spain
and now you're thinking about shit Spanish coffee
you're thinking about terrible coffee
because of the memories that it brings back
and you don't know what it's called
and you don't know why the Spanish coffee is shit
and you don't know why every single Spanish cafe
sells the same cup of shit
but you just know it exists.
And we've got access to fantastic coffee in Ireland.
You go to any little country village in Ireland
and there'll be a coffee shop with a trained barista
giving you decent bean to cup coffee.
And many a time I've been drinking,
read high-quality coffee and I've thought to myself,
just give me some Spanish shit.
I want a Spaniard to shit into my mouth.
That's what I want today.
Oh, if only I could have that shit Spanish.
coffee and all the memories would flow back. And I'd reflect on that and I'd really cherish it. I'd
cherish that and I'd say to myself, isn't that great? That's the closest thing that I have now to
when I was a child and a song would come on an advert on TV and I'd never hear it again and
I just had to record it in my memory and pine for it and want it and desire it and I can't have
it. I can have anything I want but I can't have this.
And I used to love that about the Spanish coffee.
Until about six months ago, I found out shit Spanish coffee has a name and it's called Tarifacto.
So from what I read online, during the Spanish Civil War, which would have been late 1930s, I think, during the Spanish Civil War, there was a shortage of coffee because there was a huge civil war going on.
There was a shortage of coffee.
So the Spanish people were like
Alright there's a coffee shortage
But everyone still wants to drink coffee
What are we going to do?
So what they would do is they'd start to roast
Their coffee beans in sugar
And then they'd grind it
So you'd end up with
It would bulk out the coffee
With about 20, 30% sugar
But the sugar would burn to fuck
burnt sugar
And it would also burn the coffee beans
And it also meant you could store the coffee for long
And this became known as the tarifacto process.
It was a way to make the most of having less during the Spanish Civil War.
So now you have this incredibly bitter, burnt coffee that's also mostly burnt sugar, tarifacto coffee.
And it's been served in Spanish cafes.
And then the Spanish Civil War inns, and the rationing is over.
But now people have a taste for this terrible disgusting coffee.
And this becomes the standard coffee that served in Spanish cafes.
Tare facto, tarifacto.
And when I found that out, I was like,
well, fuck it, I got to order some bastard in tarifacto now, don't I?
So I did.
I managed to find some online.
Got sent some ground tarifacto in the post.
Made myself a cup of it.
And instantly, like, fuck it, I'm back in Cordoba.
My God.
I could close my eyes.
and I'm back in Spain
and then that's immediately followed by
I wish I didn't do that
I wish I didn't do that
now it's not scarce anymore
I can have a cup of it whenever the fuck I want
and then I went
just to show you how small the world has gotten
because of the internet
how insanely small the world has gotten
so after I purchased this tarifacto
and had it sent to me in Limerick
the brand was called Tirma
I posted a photograph of
the bag of coffee
on my Instagram stories
and said
look at this Spanish shit
I love drinking this shit
Spanish coffee
and within 10 minutes
a family member
of the company of this particular brand
of Spanish coffee
is messaging me on Instagram
because they're a regular listener
to this podcast
so that was a very long description
of why I'm up late this week drinking coffee
but I really do love my ternifactal
even though it's considered a bitter, acrid, poor quality
what makes it beautiful is that when you take a sip
you're chasing the ghost of sugar.
You see it's not sweet and I don't put sugar in my coffee
but because the beans are roasted and caramelized in burnt sugar
there's that faint taste
and not
if you've ever tried to make your own caramel
if you've ever put sugar in a frying pan
and try to dissolve it to make caramel
you get to that stage where it's golden
and it's turning and it's turning
and you need a lot of skill to nail it
then you go too far and it burns
and a little piece of smoke curls up to your nose
nostrils, pinches it, where that warm and golden caramel smell disappears, and now you're left
with a little violent zing, something bitter, something astringent, something pinty,
the tarifacto has a shadow of that. And the other thing that I adore about tarifacto coffee
is
once you find out
that oh it's burnt sugar
once you find that out
it completely reframes the taste
of the coffee
something unlocks
something clicks
and you're like
oh that's what that is
and also
it'll make shittier coffee machine
if you have an espresso maker
that uses pressure
the tarifactor will fuck it up
you're actually not
supposed to put it into an espresso machine. You're supposed to do it in like a maca pat.
But I put it in my espresso machine and it fucks it up. I have to clean it every week.
But I'm up late. I'm doing the night shift tonight.
Which I like. I tried to get the podcast recorded in the daytime but sometimes
I like to record in the stillness of night.
I stuck my head outside there.
And it's November dark and cold
And the fucking sky is very clear
The moon looks like a jaundiced light bulb
The stars are all proud and obvious
And then, which is becoming an ever-increasing fucking sight
When you look about a clear night sky
You see the little dots
You'll see a little trail of what you think is stars
But there's a row of them like five or six
and it's a Starlink satellite.
Five or six little dots like a train in the sky, moving pure fast.
Elon Musk put it up there.
You can't escape the fucker.
But outside right now,
there's this creeping fog.
It's fucking gorgeous.
I wish I could show you.
It's half two in the morning.
And there's a spooky hovering graveyard, smoky fog out there.
only about six foot off the ground and you can breathe it in, you can drink it.
And that's the, that's the spooky Irish other world mist.
That's the mist that in mythology, people believe that that was the carton,
that was the veil between this reality and the parallel reality of the other world.
And it is, I don't think it's spooky or creepy,
but I can see why people think it is.
It's ghostly.
You'd hallucinate it.
a figure in it, if you got anxious enough.
There's many a gig I'd be coming home from.
Like again, my job, like I said, it's touring,
and I've been doing it for a long time.
So sometimes I'd finish a gig,
get out of the place at maybe half-12, one in the morning,
then we're driving back to Limerick,
and when you do it this time of year,
driving along the motorway,
and then suddenly out of nowhere.
The fog is there in front you,
tangible, floating just above the ground, and then you're stuck in the middle of it,
like being in a cloud when you're in an airplane.
And then if you're not careful, you lose sense of up or down or left or right,
and you can see why it's associated with the fairies or the other world in Irish mythology.
I mean, the fairies in Irish mythology and in Irish folklore,
fairies aren't little cute things with wings.
they're strange malevolent demons
like even if you type fog or mist
into Dukas
which is the Irish National Folklore Collection
you get loads of stories
like there's one story I found here from the 1930s
in Waterford that says there's a field in this
locality known as Knock Parson
where the fairies are set to dwell
and on several occasions people went there after nightfall
to gather mushrooms
and when they entered the field
a great thick mist seemed to fall everywhere
and when they tried to get out of the field
they found it surrounded by a great stone wall
and the persons inside in the field
had to remain there until morning
as soon as daybreak came
the mist suddenly cleared and the people could get away
so what you have there is a folklore story
about the terror of this mist
go into this field
and then the mist surrounds you
and now you're lost during the other world
but what I enjoy about that story is
how you can explain it using science
so this type of thick fog
it usually only happens on nights like tonight
when you have a really clear sky
when the sky is so clear
and the stars are bright and the moon is bright
and it's cold
but in that story there it mentions
there's a hill
and when people go out there at nightfall
to pick mushrooms
that's when the fog comes on them.
Now I'm guessing that those people, they would have believed
if they're picking mushrooms, that they're stealing them.
They're stealing them from the fairies and the punishment is the mist.
Like the mist comes about to protect the mushrooms.
Thing is, when the night is, I could pick mushrooms out there now.
The moon is so clear that I could see mushrooms on the grass by just the moon.
So the people probably went out, and this is the 30s, so no one has a torch, the people
probably went out to collect the mushrooms on a nightlight tonight when you've got moonlight.
But when it's cold and when there's no clouds up there, there's no wind.
It's unbelievably still out there with the clearest sky you can imagine.
What happens under those conditions is a thing called radiative cooling.
no cloud insulation, so the heat that's stored in the ground from the daytime, from the sun,
that escapes rapidly, radiative cooling. It goes right up into the air, up into space. But when
that rapidly cooling air comes off the ground and goes up, it meets the humidity in the air,
and then that's when the fog farms suddenly, like a thick blanket out of nowhere that creeps. It's
literally, it's a cloud at ground level. And it can be, it can be freaky when it just suddenly
happens. It's what I just saw when I went outside. It's all around me. But that's what's been
described in that old folklore story. The same conditions that make it great for picking mushrooms
under moonlight are the same conditions that create this sudden fog. But the people back then
thought, oh no, it's the fairies. Whatever we're doing here, taking these mushrooms, this
is some type of sacred ground and the fog is coming up to protect this area and if we're not
careful we'll get lost in here or might even go to another dimension and that same nighttime
radiative cooling that was actually harnessed thousands of years ago in paria in what is now iran
to create the world's first desert the world's first the world's first frozen desert which you'd expect
to come from a cold country, it didn't.
The first civilization to have frozen deserts were the Persians.
The ancient Persians, and I'm talking, maybe 2,000 years ago, maybe a bit longer, they
had these structures in the desert called Yakjai's, tall, sandy columns like round pyramids,
and the desert would get hot.
daytime, all that heat gets stored in the ground. Then the night time it's a clear sky,
it's cold. You get this evaporative cooling. But these Persian towers in the desert, they could harness
that evaporative cooling and they could create ice. They could create ice in the desert using
nothing but air and cooling. And then they'd get this ice and they used to make a dessert called
Faluda. You can still get it today. If you go to a decent Persian,
restaurant. They might have
Faluda on the menu. There's a place
in Parnell Street in Dublin
that does it. And it's this
really weird.
It's like icy spaghetti
with rose water and that's the world's
first frozen dessert.
So while the Irish were going
fuck that, this
is a mist that's going to transport
you to another dimension.
The Parisians were going,
I think we can make desserts out of it instead.
Okay, let's have a little
Lockerina pause now.
I have some dull keys.
I have some keys here
that have a very dull jingle.
I enjoy jingling them
because
I don't know, keys are usually
quite abrasive, the type of things
that I'd disturb a dog.
These keys would never disturb a dog.
So let's jingle them
and hear an advert for some bullshit.
Listen to that.
Dull keys
Very dull keys
Gorgeous
We don't hear enough of dull keys
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I'm up late because
I'm quite distracted
I have to go to an award ceremony next week
in London
I'm a bit nervous about it
A documentary I made last year
Blind by the Land of Slaves and Scholars
Which is
It's about early Irish Christianity
But it's really about writing
It's about the history of writing in Ireland
So quite unexpectedly
Very very unexpectedly
That's been nominated for
A Grierson Trust
Award
Which is
It's one of the most prestigious
documentary awards in the world and I'm up for best presenter and I did not, I don't, nobody fucking
expected this and as far as I know, I think it's the only, the only Irish documentary, it's the only
RTE documentary for sure that's nominated at this award ceremony. I've never gone to an award ceremony
in my life. I've been nominated for quite a few awards. First one was 2011.
And I've been nominated for a few awards since then.
I've never gone to any of the ceremonies.
I've always avoided them.
This one, I kind of have to go.
It's too, it's too big.
I'd piss people off if I didn't go.
It's not only a big award ceremony.
Best presenter is, it's like best album or best actor.
It's the big award within the big award ceremony.
and I'm up against
fucking Louis Thoreau.
It's a huge honour
and I can't believe it.
But I can't sit this one out.
This is one of those ones
where if you don't show up to this one
you better have a good reason.
You better be sick or too old or something
but you kind of have to go to this.
And the reason I've always avoided
award ceremonies is
just the practicality of it.
I wear a plastic bag on my head.
Award ceremonies are
maybe five, six hours long.
I don't want to be sitting around with a bag in my head for five or six hours.
It's not practical.
Can't drink pints.
Can't eat dinner.
Definitely can't eat dinner with a bag on my head.
I could drink soup through a straw but I don't want to do that.
So I have to go to this.
The award ceremony is next Tuesday.
RTE actually, if you want to see that documentary, if you're in Ireland,
RTE will be replaying the documentary on Monday night at like half ten, I think, on
RTE won because it's been
nominated for this award. But I'm
going to have to go to this fucking award ceremony
I'm going to have to figure out
two costumes basically
I'm going to have to wear my
plastic bag
and be blind by
for any bits that there's a camera
or if I'm lucky enough to win an award
and have to go up on stage
but even if I don't win the award
I'll have to do the red carpet
shit, so obviously I have to do that with a plastic bag in my head, but then I have to figure
out. How do I change costumes and just go back to being nobody and mingle amongst the
crowd? It's the only way I can do it. I'm not mingling amongst the crowd with a bag in my head
for several hours. Because of the amount of talking I'd have to do. Because even if people
didn't know who the fuck I was, everyone's going to want to talk to the one person who's wearing a plastic
bag on their head if you get me.
That's not the bit that's making me nervous.
Honest the fuck.
I'm in no way nervous
about the awards.
If I'm lucky enough to win it
and I have to make a speech, I don't give a fuck about that.
I wouldn't even prepare a speech
and I'd comfortably get up
and give a speech off the top of my fucking head.
No bother to me. Don't give a shit about that.
What I'm nervous about is
I have to dress smart casual
and I don't know what that fucking means
well I kind of do I've googled it
I'm looking at a lot of photographs of
Graham Norton
Graham Norton is the master of smart casual
I'd prefer it if it was just
smart
and I get away with a tuxedo
so you just wear it I can't
this has to be
a blazer shirt
some type of trousers and shoes
and then making that work
with a plastic bag.
Now what would I...
It's also not one of these peacocking.
It's not one of these
award ceremonies where you make a big statement
or dress ridiculously,
even though I am aware I'm wearing a plastic bag on my head
but that doesn't count.
In my heart and soul,
what would I like to wear at this award ceremony?
If I was to follow my heart.
So, something I noticed recently.
I've been doing a lot of mindful walking
around Limerick.
I enjoy mindful walking.
walks where I empty my head
and just focus on walking
and breathing and my body
and sensations.
Nises, sounds, textures.
I love doing that.
And there was a familiar figure
who I used to see on my walks
and I just noticed last week
I didn't see this person anymore.
I may have mentioned this person
in previous podcast long ago.
There used to be this fella I'd see
around a certain area of Limerick City
and he used to walk around the place
with his dog
but the dog's leash
was attached to the belt of his trousers
he was a man I'd say in his 60s
and he used to wear really skinny jeans
which made him look a bit like a pigeon
and he had
suppose
Muffin Top love handles
But the interesting thing about this man is
The dog, the dog's leash was attached to his belt
And I used to walk behind him
Just to watch how insane this was
The dog used to pull his pants down
And the man's
It would start with his torso being on display
His muffin top
his love handles would be out
and they'd get a wonderful rosy red colour
from the wind
and then the dog would tug more
and his pants would basically come down
to the point that
sometimes he's just his full arse
his full arse would be out
and this man would just walk around Limerick
with his arse out
and I used to follow him from a distance
because I'd just marvel at how nuts it was
And then I came to realize
Because I'd be thinking
Man, your arse is out
Your bum
Your bum is out in public
The dog
Your dog is attached to your belt
Why aren't you putting your pants up
Do you not notice what's going on
And then it became apparent to me
This is deliberate
This is his thing
This is this man's thing
What made me realise it was deliberate
it is one day. I watched him and so he had a kind of a flamboyant walk. In one hand, he was holding
like a flask, like a flask of tea. And in the other hand, he had a very large set of keys.
And then I realized, oh, this is about accountability. That's what this is about. So even if he
wanted to pull his pants up, he couldn't, because it's like, well, I've got a flask in this
hand and I've got keys in the other and the dog is attached to my pants what you want me to do.
Ah, now I see what this is. This is a fetish, you mad cunt. He wants people to see his arse.
But he's figured out a way whereby he's not accountable. He's not accountable. He's not
flashing himself because it's the dog who's putting his pants down. He's not putting his own
pants down. It's the dog who's pulling his pants down and showing his arse. And I used to
respectfully follow that man when I'd see him and just look at his arse and go, that's one of
the maddest things I've ever seen him. What a lunatic. What a fucking lunatic. And he'd do it
every time I'd see him. And I just, just recently I noticed, I'm like, just I hadn't seen him in a while.
haven't seen that man in a while.
And I wondered,
has he been arrested?
Has someone just said to him,
put your fucking arse away,
Brendan, or whatever his name is.
He looked like a Brendan.
Put your arse away, Brendan.
There's children around the place.
And then he would say,
it's my dog.
My dog is pulling my pants down.
He's attached to my belt.
It's not me.
And then the person said,
Stop it. We know what you're doing. We know what you're doing. Put your arse away or get a better belt. Or how about this? Just hold the fucking leash with your hand like a normal person. Because clearly, if your arse is out all the time, this isn't working and it's not working for the community either. So I was thinking maybe that happened. Maybe he was confronted. Maybe he had to stop. And I went rooting around. He died. Turned out that he died of natural.
causes a couple of months back.
And I kind of...
I never spoke to him. I didn't know his name.
I wanted to write a story about him. I wanted to...
I mean, that's the beautiful beginnings of a short story, or even a novel.
To write a story...
What's going on in that person's head?
What if he went walking with the dog, dragging his pants around his ankles?
And then found himself in a fairy mound surrounded by mist.
and then was judged before a fairy court.
But if I was to follow my heart and go,
what would I wear to the award ceremony?
I'd do that.
I'd do that.
I would arrive at the award ceremony with my bag on
and a dog attached to my belt
consistently pulling my pants down so that my arse is out.
And then if I was doing interviews
and anybody was asking me
why my arse is out or why my muffin top is out,
I'd say it's not me, it's the dog.
but she can't do that.
So instead,
I've just been off googling photographs of Graham Norton
trying to figure out his style,
trying to figure out what type of shirt would Graham Norton wear,
what type of blazer would Graham Norton wear.
And I'm going to have to get myself
some type of single-breasted blazer, I'd imagine.
But then, of course,
like I'm shaded dressing myself.
I wonder what Louis Thoreau wears the fucking award ceremonies,
let's.
Oh, he wears tuxedos.
No, he wears soots.
Louis Thoreau wears soots at awards ceremonies with a tie.
I wonder is he going to go smart, casual.
I'm just realising there's a strong chance
I'm going to end up speaking to Louis Thoreau at this documentary awards
because if we're in the same category together,
there's a strong chance that,
we'd have a conversation
and I'm going to have to
avoid
talking to him about
so I have a theory
of a very strange theory
that there's a Tom Waits song
from 1982
that's actually written
about Louis Theroux's childhood
and it's one of my
it's one of my hottest takes
so Tom Waits has
this song called Shoreleave
absolutely
magnificent
and song.
I don't know
with this podcast
sound the way it does
without Tom Waits' song
Sure Leave.
When I first started making this podcast
and trying to decide
what would the feeling be,
what would the tone of this podcast be,
the piano in the background,
the pacing of how I speak,
the imagery that I use,
the literature of the podcast.
A touchstone that I would use was the Tom Waits song, Shorleaf, which is, it's one of my favourite songs of all time.
It's not particularly nice to listen to. It's not melodic. It's a speaking song. It's closer to a short story.
And that's what I love about Tom Waits. Tom Waits, a lot like Randy Newman. A lot of his songs are short stories.
But anyway, Tom Waits wrote this song.
shore leave in 1982 and it's a short story about an American sailor who's on
shore leave in Hong Kong and it's just about his about his night walking
around Hong Kong as an off-duty sailor and looking up at the moon and
marvelling about how the moon in the sky is the same moon that is white
is looking at back in America. The lyrics are very cinematic and descriptive. With buckshot
eyes and a purple heart I rolled down the National Stroll and with a big fat paycheque
strapped to my hip sack and a shore-leaf wristwatch underneath my sleeve in a Hong Kong
drizzle on Cuban heels. I rode down the gutter to the blood bank and I'd left all my
papers on the taiconderoga, and I was in bad need of a shave. So I slopped at the corner
and called Chaumain and shot billiards with a midget until the rain stopped. And I bought a long
sleeve shirt with horses on the front and some gum and a lighter and a knife, and a new deck
of cards with girls on the back, and I sat down and wrote a letter to my wife. And Tom waits. He
speaks, he speaks those lyrics, like the way I spoke them there. Now here's the thing. The
the lyrics are so visually rich. They're so visually descriptive that I have a feeling that when
Tom Waits was writing it, he was using some type of visual cue. He had a very clear picture in his
head and it's very common for writers to use movies or to use postcards, magazines,
literal visual images
to then translate this into words
and bring it into your own fiction.
That's a very common thing to do.
So Tom Waits wrote shortly in 1982
and a lot of the visual imagery
in that song
is very, very similar
to a movie that came out
two years earlier in 1979
called St. Jack.
St. Jack, it stars Ben Gazzara, great actor.
and it's
it's a film about
an American
he's a pimp
he's living in Singapore
he's a pimp and a lot of the
clients are sailors on shore leave
so in this film
from 1979
a huge amount of the visual imagery
including the shirts that he's wearing
a lot of the descriptions
from shore leave the Tom Waits song
You can see them in this film from 1979 as St. Jack.
So my theory is Tom Waits saw this film in the cinema a year or two before he wrote the song
and some of the visual imagery from that film are actually in the lyrics of Shirley.
You can actually place the song over parts of St. Jack the movie and it nearly, it almost works
as a narration. I've tried it. But here's the thing.
Who wrote the screenplay for St. Jack?
Paul Thoreau, Louis Thoreau's dad, who was living in Singapore at the time.
Who was born in Singapore?
Louis Thoreau.
Louis Thoreau was actually born in Singapore,
while his dad was living in Singapore,
while his dad was writing the screenplay for St. Jack,
based on things that he's seeing all around him in Singapore.
So that's why I have a plausible theory
that the Tom Wait's song, surely, from 1982,
may possibly be inadvertently about Louis Theroux's childhood.
And I'm going to have to stop myself saying that to Louis Theroux
if I meet him at that award ceremony.
If he's a Tom Waits fan, I'm definitely saying it to him.
If he's not, I'm not saying it to him.
I'll have to really stop.
So I've been bothered this week about figuring out how I'm going to dress myself
for this award ceremony next fucking Tuesday.
and getting annoyed.
Because I want to just wear my Gortex.
I want to dress for the weather.
But I'm going to have to figure out
what is smart casual?
Will it look okay?
How am I going to fucking put it off
and feel comfortable in it?
Fashion is a very social language.
It's a social language
and I struggle with the social communicative element of it.
When I wear Gortex,
When I dress for the weather, you know, I'm dressing to protect myself from the elements,
from the cold, from the wind, from the rain.
I love that.
But when I dress smart, casual, I'm dressing to protect myself from other people's opinions.
And that's quite, that's ambiguous.
And there's a lot of room for error.
You can get things wrong.
When it comes to the rain, Gartex.
breathable, keeps the fucking, keeps the weather out. Blazers. You know, if I, if I, if I were,
I just learned today, if I turn up in a, in a double-breasted blazer, I have it wrong. That's not
smart, casual. That's, that's, that's smart, that's formal. So you can't wear a double breast.
So now I have to get a single-breasted blazer. And then I'm going to, what the fuck does this matter?
Who started this? Who started this? Who decided this? Who decided on suit?
What a strange thing.
When did that start?
And then instead of looking at photographs
at Graham Norton or
scanning through the River Island website
looking for blazers.
The history of how it came about
is actually quite fucking interesting.
So
the French Revolution, right?
So men
menswear.
In the 1700s, fashion was defined mostly by France, by aristocratic France.
And if you look at how rich men dressed in the 1700s, men used a peacock, big wigs, big huge puffed wigs, powdered wigs, frocks, froux, frilly stuff, high heels.
Men, men's clothing was what you'd call costume now.
Men's, if you were to dress, like men dressed in, like men dressed in the 1700s,
it would be classed as highly effeminate.
How did that stop?
What happened?
And what happened was the French Revolution.
The opulence and the displays of wealth,
the French royalty were getting their heads chopped off
There was a revolution
The peasants revolted
And aristocratic wealthy people were literally being executed
And people who were royal
And people who were wealthy
Once the revolution started
Some of them they went into fucking hiding
So obviously
You're not going to be dressing
In high heels and wigs
In an opulent fashion
because you'd get your head chopped off
and this was France
but the French Revolution
the 1790s
that frightened all of Europe
all the wealthy people
all the monarchies of Europe
were like fuck
what if that happens here
and in Britain
and Ireland would have been part of Britain
at the time through colonisation
like the English monarchy
were terrified
of what if a fucking French Revolution
happens here? And you had
a bit of it in Ireland.
Wolftonne, Theobald Wolfton
and the United Irishman.
That was a movement,
a rebellion,
an attempted revolution
which was inspired by the French
revolution. It was a Republican
revolution. The French
even tried to assist
Wolfton and the United Irishman.
So the English monarchy
by the late 1700s
are like
terrified. They're like
fucking wolf tone over there.
That could be us.
What if us, the English monarchy,
what if the people here gain
class consciousness and put us in the guillotine?
So what happens is
is fashion start to change.
Powdered wigs, high heels,
frocks, peacocking.
If you're
a wealthy person,
in England, if you're royalty, or if you're a duke or whatever shit they have over there,
whatever royal titles they give. If you're one of these people, now you don't want to
dress like a French aristocrat anymore. That's dangerous now. So a more austere way of dressing
starts to come into style at the very end of the 1700s. It happens all across Europe and
it's known as the Great Male Renunciation,
where bright ornate colours and clothes are abandoned
for something a bit more sober.
And the concept of the visual masculinity,
how we think a man should dress and a man should look,
that starts to begin now with this great male renunciation,
and it's actually its roots are in an anxiety
from the ultra wealthy about what if there's a revolution,
We've got to stop showing off.
And in the early 1800s, there's this fella in England called Bo Brummel.
And Bo Brummel, he was best friends with the Prince George.
Right, this was during the Georgian period.
He was best friends with Prince George.
This Bo Brummel fella, anyway, he's a dandy.
I think he was the first dandy.
Very, very stylish individual.
all because the prince was best friends with him the prince started the dress like him too and that then
defined the style of how men should dress in England but beau brummel he was the first one to start
wearing like double-breasted suits um tailored trousers more simple cravats and shirts
so the suit as we know it today
and the blazer that I'm going to have to purchase
you can trace it back to this fella
bow brummel but really what you can trace it to
is the anxiety of the monarchy
about getting their heads chopped off
now that for me
that makes it easier now for me
to figure out how to dress in a smart casual way
it makes suits and blazers
seem a little less confusing
because now I know the story of it
and that story is really fucking interesting
so I'm going to go and pick myself out
a single-breasted blazer
when I go to London next week
and I'd like to say
that the thing that I'm looking forward to the most
is going to the award ceremony in London
it's not
what I'm going to make time to do
while I'm in London
I want to visit
the last surviving sewer lamp
in London
this is fascinating
right so
down close enough
to the Thames
I don't know where it is
I'll figure it out once I get there
there's a fancy hotel
called the Savoy Hotel
and at the back of the Savoy Hotel
is a road called
Carting Lane
and on this road
there's an old
like Victorian looking street lamp
it's an old lamp
and it's got a flame in it
but what makes
this fucking fascinating is
it's actually
powered by like farts
gas, it's a sewer
gas lamp
and it's the last one in London
and it still operates
so
the old sores
of not just London
all over the cities of Britain
the old sewers
the sores used to be
underneath the city as they still are
but
they weren't modern
like they are now
so you have
all this shit and piss underneath the streets and that would generate huge amounts of gas,
methane gas, which could literally cause explosions really dangerous. So throughout London,
you had these special gas lamps where methane farts from the sewer would travel up this
lamp and then be lit at the top. So you had street lights that were powered by sewer gas. And the last
one that's left in London, that still you can go to it and
if you stand beside it at night time and it lights you it illuminates you you're being lit by farts literally
so that's beside the savoy hotel and i'm going to make time to go and see that a hundred percent
and i'm just fascinated by these english fart lamps in particular i call them english fairy trees
and that that might sound strange but i tell you why in sheffield in particular
The thing is about Irish fairy trees.
Fairy trees, any tree in the countryside in Ireland
that looks out of place,
it's by itself in the middle of a field or on a hill.
Okay?
And it's usually white thorn.
But any time in Ireland in the countryside,
there's a tree by itself on a hill and that's unusual.
We always call those fairy trees.
They're fairy trees.
trees and you don't fuck with them because you just go, that's strange. That's up on a hill.
It looks like it's been put there deliberately. It must have been the fairies.
In Sheffield in particular, these fart gas lamps are often situated.
By themselves on hills, they look out of place. It's a lamp on the top of a hill.
And you're looking at it going. Now there's very few left in Sheffield. There's about six,
but there used to be lots of them
and they'd just be on a hill by themselves
illuminating nothing
and that's why I call them the English fairy trees
because
they're just strange and out of place
but the reason they're on hills
is
so because Sheffield is a hilly place
with the old sores
the gas
sewer gas from decomposing
shit and piss that would accumulate
under hills
so in like the 1800s
hundreds, a hill in Sheffield City was at risk of exploding if it didn't have a lamp on it
that could let the gas out to go on fire. So that's why I call them English fairy trees.
And Sheffield in particular fascinates me because when I was there on tour, I went to visit
the cathedral, Sheffield Cathedral, which is in the middle of the city. Now Sheffield is
very industrial. And the cathedral there is about a thousand years old. But where the cathedral was,
there was an Anglo-Saxon cross
and on this cross
which is in the British Museum now
there was designs on it that were
like vines and leaves
and they reckon that Sheffield Cathedral
was once a pagan
sacred grove
that it was like a holy forest
a sacred forest that was worshipped
by the Anglo-Saxons
so I'm going to go to my awards
you know I don't like awards
I'm very grateful to be nominated
that's magnificent
and awards are brilliant
because they bring more work
that's the wonderful thing about awards
but also
awards reviews
these are all quite external ways
to evaluate art
and if you want to create art
and you want to create anything that has a sense of meaning
you can't be thinking about awards
or reviews or even other people's opinions
you have to be in a state of play and enjoyment
where the success of the work
is defined by the amount of meaning that it brings you
when you do it and that's what I try to do
but the flip side of that is
if you approach the work in that way
you're not thinking about making anything good or bad
but you're doing it to enjoy it
that tends to create the type of work
that's good enough
to get recognised for awards.
So it is a double-edged blade.
If I was thinking about awards,
I wouldn't have been able to make this documentary
the way I made it, simple as that.
I'd be thinking, oh, what wins awards?
Let's make something, let's make a documentary
like other documentaries that win awards.
And then you do that,
and you no longer have something
with a unique voice you're copying.
So that's the double-edged blade.
I'm better off staying the fuck away from awards.
and the other guiding principle I have
and this takes it back to that cultural scarcity
anytime I make anything for TV, anything
I'm always thinking about
the last little space of cultural scarcity that we have
is often the hotel room
when you go to a hotel
it's often the only time that you'll turn on television
use a remote control
and just look at whatever's on TV
because hotel rooms are so boring
and I always try to make something that
I imagine a French tourist or a German tourist
in a hotel in Ireland
and they just flick on the TV
and then they stumble across my documentary
with no context
and they go what the fuck is this odd stuff
what is this weird shit
and that's what that's what this documentary
is, which you can watch it again
on RT1 this Monday.
It's a documentary about
early Irish Christianity. It's a dead
serious documentary with
loads of academics in it.
It's not comedy, but it just happens
to be presented by a man
with a plastic bag in his head.
And at all times I have a dog with me
and the dog has eyebrows.
And none of that is ever explained.
Ever. And that's how
I wanted it. And it got terrible
reviews, which is a good thing.
Which is a good thing.
Even though it can be painful.
In the long run,
it's good to be getting terrible reviews.
If the thing you're making is weird,
you want the reviewers to get it wrong,
to not understand it,
to be confused by it and to be upset by it.
That's a good thing.
That's all I have time for this week.
This was an incredibly strange episode.
I don't even know what this was about,
but I'm quite happy with whatever the fuck that was.
I'm coming away with a feeling of happiness
about that.
past hour here. I actually wanted to speak about meditation and mental health this week.
I've been getting into a solid meditation practice the past two weeks, like daily, really sticking
with it. And I'm noticing some powerful results already. I'm experiencing glimmers they're called,
which are just little moments in my day where
I'm overwhelmed with the simple joy of existing, wonderful feeling
and glimmers are what happen
after sustained meditation
if you meditate every day for a couple of weeks
you'll start to receive these little lovely glimmers
and what it is is
it's your nervous system calming down
it's safety, it's the feeling of safety
and I wanted to speak about that this week
but also
I always try to be congruent
I'll never force something
on this podcast
even though I intended to speak
about mental health and meditation
instead
what came to me was
whatever the fuck that was
and I don't want to interfere with that process
all right dog bless
rub a dog
genuflect to a swan
wink at a wood
I'll catch you next week.
You know,
and
You know,
and
You know,
I don't know.
I mean,
and
you know,
You know,
I'm
You know,
and
I don't know.
I don't know.
You know,
I'm
We're going to be able to be.
We're going to be able to be.
You know,
Oh,
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
I don't know.
You know,
I'm going to be the
I'm
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I'm going to
I'm
You know,
and
We're going to be able to be.
Thank you.
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