The Blindboy Podcast - I listened to the rain and it told me a story about Margaret Thatcher

Episode Date: January 21, 2026

The beauty of the water cycle and the violence of it's privatisation under neoliberal policies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Press your breast against the Kestrel's nest, you bare chest end us. Do not molest the shell of an egg, but your vinegory aerola. Welcome to the Blind Boy podcast. If it's okay with ye, we're going to be joined this week by my good friend, The Rain, because for the past year, I've been recording in an office that has a tin roof. I didn't factor this in when I was choosing the office, and this has brought us a little bit closer to nature. I don't want to mask the sound of rain.

I don't want to pretend it isn't there. So instead, I've miced my ceiling with two stereo mics so we can worship it in all its majesty. That's a bit of a regal or colonial projection there on the rain. I think if the rain was sentient, it wouldn't want to be worshipped like a rile. So I take that back and I'd like to apologize to the rain. You don't worship the rain. You don't...

I'll listen to that cuntie by. I got it, the rain, a cuntie boy. I have it playing in my ears here on my earphone, so I've got wonderful stereo rain. Look if I had a guest on this podcast, I'm going to give them their own microphone to speak into. And the rain, the rain happens to be stereophonic. So that needs two microphones at an X, Y, access.

pointing at the ceiling and I nearly broke my fucking neck trying to get the mics up there but I'm not going to worship the rain I'm not going to worship its majesty like it's a king doesn't feel right calling the rain

a county boy it does a bit it does a small bit but I'm not going to call the rain a country by the best way to acknowledge rain and to be present with it and invited onto your podcast is

to not even think of the rain as a thing the rain is a flux it's a transfer of energy and matter across systems the rain isn't a thing an object it's just it's a phase in a never-ending cyclical event

known as the water cycle so I'm not taking an objective view of the rain there that's a relay view. Rain can't be a thing as it never stops. It just flows from one place to another, down from a cloud, into the air, into the soil, up into a plant, return to the earth and the air by the plant, back up into a cloud, back down to the air. And those little drops that you're here and there, hitting off my tin roof. Those drops could contain water that's a couple of weeks old. could contain water that's 60 years old, 100 years old, or it could contain water that's hundreds of thousands of years old or longer.

Some of that water there could be primordial as old as the earth itself and arrived here on comets. Water absorbs down into rocks, into groundwater. Water is bound in minerals in the earth's mantle. So it's entire, plausible and scientifically possible that if I stuck my head out that window, stuck my tongue out, that I could get a hop off some water. That's water that a dinosaur once used to wash its cloaca.

A cloaca is the genitals of a bird. Dinosaur's evolved into birds, so they probably had cloacas. And like birds, they also probably wash themselves. Birds love washing themselves. and trying to make a point about the the relational nature of the water cycle, what we call rain. It's a phase in this continuous relational cycle that operates across deep time. It doesn't reset.

It circulates through the oceans into rocks, air, the bodies of living creatures, evaporates up into a cloud, down into a puddle back into the rocks, a cycle that goes on and on and on continuously. Listen, that, I'm not going to call it rain, a piece of wet theatre. That you're listening to, those drops

could contain water from a fucking a puddle in Lytrum last week or a splash out of a swamp that dribbled across a stegosaurus's ghent in the Cretaceous era. That's the wonder of the temporary flux that we call rain. And why is this shit even important? Because when you objectify it, you turn it into a thing, then you can commodify it.

You measure it, you sell it, you decide who owns it. But when it's viewed as part of a system, a phase, relational, part of the ecosystem, then owning it, privatising it, selling it, that becomes unthinkable. When you objectify and own something like rain, like water, then you end up with what's happening in fucking California and the wildfires. Forest fires in California, Pacific Palisades, Hollywood.

They sometimes make it onto the nose because it impacts a famous person. It's not just a hotter climate that does that. See, in California, water rights are privatized, highly contested. You can purchase the rain in California. You can purchase what happens to the rain after it falls. and you can sell it. You can sell those water rights by treating rain as like an object

and turning it into water units or rights. It's purchased by the highest bidder and California is massive. So agribusiness, huge, huge corporations that have farms that grow things. Almond's are huge. Almonds require massive amounts of water to grow.

So the almond industry is a huge one. They objectify rain. They purchase their rights to it. Then they divert it miles and miles away to grow almonds. And they take that rain. They take that water out of the cycle. That cycle that's millions, billions of years old. They take it out of that cycle.

Doesn't return to soil. It doesn't. Plants don't use it so then the plants disappear. It doesn't go back into the mountains that it's been in a cycle with for years and years and years, it doesn't go back into the rivers, groundwater, and then you get drought. You get more than drought, you get an entire collapse of the ecosystem in California. The ground moisture drops, the plants dry out, the forest stop, recycling water back into the air. So then that lowers humidity.

You get longer dry seasons, you get a tinderbox. And then before you know what Mariah Carey's house is. on fire. Not Mariah Carey. I'd hate for her house. I love Maria Carey. I don't wish a forest fire on any celebrity's house to be... There's a few I could think of... But the... California's water because it's privatised like that, it ends up. Just being exported as almond milk. 80% of the world's almonds are grown in California. I can walk across to the shop there and buy a pint of almond milk and drink it. And I'm drinking some California rain. Similarly, in Ireland, most of our rain goes into grass.

Now we have loads and loads of fucking rain. It goes into our grass. Our grass gets so much rain. The grass produces beta carotene. It's what makes carrots orange. It's what's in tanning tablets. It's what used to be added to sunny delight. Years and years ago and if you drank enough,

your face would go orange. We have lots of beta carotene in our grass because the grass just gets so much rain. and then cows eat this and that's why Irish butter is golden is yellow. Kerry gold. Kerry gold Irish butter is fetishised as a luxury item in the same houses in California that are burning down because of forest fires caused by the commodification of rain. I've watched posh Yank influencers sitting in their car eating,

miniature sticks of Kerry Gold like it's a fucking Mars bar that's what Kerry Gold Irish butter is you're eating Irish rain you're eating my country by I suppose what I find

ironic about that is even though the system has objectified water and rain and extracted it from its natural ecosystem and made it a thing it's still relational

in a very fucked up way in an unnatural way it's actually getting quiet on the roof now It's gone quiet. I think it's settling down. I can call it a cunty boy now again. Now that it's gone. See, I like that now, actually.

Speaking about the rain with such respect when it's present, then as soon as it fucking goes, I start talking shit about it. I like that. That's pagan shit. So it's not reducing the rain to being an object that can be commodified under capitalism.

And it's not necessarily the science evidence-based approach where, you know, rain is a flux. It's not a thing. It's an ever-changing transition of energy. This is the pagan thing. A rain is something to be feared, something. It's the god country by. Or in Ireland. I don't think we had a god of rain. There was Bridget.

Bridget the goddess. and the goddess Bridgett she wasn't necessarily a goddess of rain but she was definitely associated with moisture and fertility of the land and there was loads and loads of sacred

wells named after Bridget and not just St. Bridget but the pre-Christian goddess Bridget and Holy Wells were a huge deal in Ireland because and again like You know, the rain isn't the rain, it's just one phase in a system, well, it's a movement in the water cycle,

where this time the water is springing out from the rocks and flowing. The water that came out of holy wells was, you know, the rain falls, it seeps into the soil, it goes into the rocks, and then it emerges again through natural springs, filtered, filtered through rocks with minerals in it, and the veneration, the worship of water as it appeared in this phase coming out of a sacred well. That was hugely important in Ireland. And Bridget had a ton of wells. And there were rules and laws about how these sacred wells were to be treated. They were never to be privately owned.

There was communal access to these wells. They were for the people. When the British came and started to close off landing, estates and all of a sudden the local holy well is stuck inside some British landlord's land. That landlord was cursed now. You can see this

in the folklore as it's written down. You never fucked with a holy well or a sacred well. And just to illustrate the point of a people who viewed the wells as relational and things to be venerated. Irish people. I read

an American archaeological paper a few years back. I actually did a podcast on it, maybe 20-20. But there was this archaeologist and she was saying that she could tell when an old area

of a city was an Irish slum. So I'm talking 1700s, 18-100s. She could tell when it was, if she was digging up a city in America, New York, Philadelphia, whatever, she could tell when a part of it was an Irish slum. Because the Irish used to collect

bottles of sparkling water. When Irish immigrants went to America in, let's just say 1840, 1850, they'd have been confronted with glass bottles of carbonated water that were being sold in pharmacies or as soft drinks in the 1800s. Because this sparkling water had a mineral-like zing to it, the Irish people assumed that this sparkling water must have been from a sacred well, that it must be whole. They didn't understand it as capitalism. The sparkling water on sale in America in the 1840s or 1850s, it was artificially carbonated. They used to put mixed marble with phosphoric acid and that's how they used to carbonate water back then.

So it was artificial. But the Irish didn't confront sparkling water in the 1850s as purely a commodity. They tasted it and went This reminds me of the sacred well back home The zing of this carbonation Reminds me of The shul well which means the eye well Which would have contained zinc in it

This reminds me of the zing of zinc on my tongue This sparkling water must be sacred I can't just throw the bottle away I can't just dispose of it That would be like disrespect in a well This bottle now becomes sacred So the first generation Irish immigrants in the 1800s in like New York and Philadelphia and Boston, they would collect and worship and create shrines in their houses out of all bottles of sparkling water

and I'm sure the yanks thought they were mad. But what you're seeing there too is it's a very different relationship with water. It's relational, it's not objective or disposable. And that's a real thing. The archaeologist Meredith B. Lin was her name and the paper. she wrote, I think it was fucking 2010, but it was about she's digging up old slums

in the east coast of America and she knows when she's come across an old Irish slump because there's like little altars to sparkling water. You weren't allowed wash your clothes in a sacred well or bring her animals there to drink or dispose of waste

in a sacred well and it wasn't just illegal. If no one saw you do it, it was bad luck would fall upon you. Like with the wells were a portal to the other world you fuck what a well you offend the other world I mean the rivers of Ireland

you look at the stories of the rivers of Ireland and where they came from the Shannon the Shannon which is just up around the corner there that was a sacred well that water came out of and poets used to go to this sacred well up near Sligo and the poets would go there to get inspiration from the water

and then one day a poet called Sining She said, fuck that, I'm diving into the well I'm going to swim to the bottom to get the most amount of knowledge from the bubbles that come from the bottom and she did. And the holy well, the sacred well, rejected her and killed her

and carried her body the flow of it all the way down Ireland into the Atlantic and that became the River Shannon and sinning she is the goddess of the River Shannon. But that story's important because A, it gives you the origin of the River Shannon and it tells you not to fuck with Holy Wells

these are sacred things and there'd be retribution if you fuck with this communal water. Most importantly, don't fuck with water. Don't fuck with water because your life depends on this.

You must view the rain. You must view the well. You must view the river as relational as part of a system. If you do that, then you're respecting it. You're fearing it. Like here's the crack.

Folklore, mythology, indigenous knowledge and science. and science they always tend to agree with each other Irish mythology this water is part of a system goddesses fear it respect it

don't fuck with it science says the exact same thing the outlier is always capitalism capitalism and certain capitalistic readings of Christianity that's the one that steps in and says actually fuck nature

fuck ecosystems we must control extract and profit God created the nature and animals for us to exploit. Look where that's gotten us. What other rules were there around sacred wells? People could only take a certain amount of water from the well

and there was a community obligation to maintain sacred wells. They were viewed as relational. They were part of a system. They were part of the system of fertility of nature. They weren't objectified and owned and commodified and sold or bought. And I was just talking about the rain there because it was present. So I had to invite it onto the podcast as a guest,

but it's gone now. But this stuff is relevant, I suppose, because whatever about California and almonds using up all the water, the big one that's coming is artificial intelligence, data centers. AI uses massive amounts of water.

Data centers use huge amounts of water. And there's a lot of them in Ireland because we have not privatized our water. in Ireland. There were water protests. 10, 11 years ago, they tried to privatise the water and people went no fucking way. But now, the multinational corporations are coming here with their big giant data centers

to take advantage of our free public water and they're using loads of it. And even today, the UN released the report where they said that the world has entered an era of global water bankrupt And I think they've had to use that terminology bankruptcy so that the UN report reaches powerful capitalists. They have to speak to them in their language of money. They refer to aquifers as underground savings accounts. Now aquifers, it's layers of rock and sediment that holds water in its pores.

And it's the aquifers that, that can hold the water for years and years and years. And aquifers then they release filtered, nutrient-rich, fresh water via the springs, via springs, or into rivers. But what's happening around the world today, especially in urban areas, is that that water cycle that I mentioned earlier, the flux. It's not rain, that's just a phase that it's in, because it's part of a cycle. Well, we're removing water from that cycle. Well, we're removing water from that cycle faster than it can enter the aquifers. Mostly through agriculture.

Not just agriculture, concrete, paving. These all create barriers. So when the rain does fall, it doesn't absorb into the aquifers, into the soil, into the rocks. It doesn't purify. it doesn't do what nature wants to do with rainwater instead it hits the concrete and it drains off down into the river they're pumping water directly from aquifers if nature says that some rain needs to stay down there for a million years then it needs to fucking stay down there for a million years to do its thing its thing there is maintaining the ecosystem you can think of aquifers really as a sponge a big sponge under the earth

earth and it holds that water and if you take that sponge away you get fucking floods. Floods that aren't supposed to happen destroy plants, destroy animals, destroy ecosystems. So because we're taking water out of the water cycle, the aquifers, the sponges under the earth, they're not getting enough water and now they're drying out and they're crumbling and turn into dust and dying. They're desertifying. They're not a living thing but they're, they're, they're not a living thing but they're crumbling and once they crumble they can't go back to being aquifers and I suppose the literal impact that sink holes you know sinkholes just all of a sudden the earth opens up and a car falls down in a city that's happening all over the world it's because the sponge that was there

is dry and then it crumbles so that UN report has described this as we're losing the underground water savings account the savings account the money that you think you have in the bank, right, that you think is there, that you're safe. Well, imagine one day you just walk up to your ATM and the money's depleting and you don't know where this went, but that's where we are with aquifers. And the UN report had to, I'm really annoyed about that. I'm pissed off. They had to use that language.

That's the United Nations going, the people who have the power and money to do something about this, they actually don't give a fuck and they're not curious people. and if you mention something to do with ecosystems or biodiversity or water cycles they're going to switch off so let's use the metaphor of a savings account and maybe then they'll fucking listen. It's no surprise of course

that this comes out today and today is Davos the World Economic Forum so they're trying to reach those people, world leaders the other thing that the report says is causing this water bankruptcy is glaciers melting glaciers are quite useful.

Again, to store water. Water is stored in glaciers. They freeze, they melt, they supply rivers. It's part of the ecosystem, but now glaciers are melting quite fast because of the warming climate. And then the other one, wetlands. Wetlands are amazing.

They're like, not nature's fertiliser, they're like, nature's gardener that decides when to fertilise. So when we were talking about the rain, the rain phase of the water cycle, when the rain hits the ground, it washes off nutrients from soil, decomposing leaves, decomposing animals, dung, dirt, rainwater hitting the ground, washes the ground and carries all that waste with it, and that waste contains nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium, nutrients. and then this water collects

ponds, lakes, rivers okay? And then near a pond or a lake or a river wherever water collects that's where you find your fucking wetlands which is marshy bull rushes, reeds, ducks, you know a wetland

wetlands are incredible because so all the rain comes down and washes all the nutrients okay and then that goes into the lake or the river the wetland holds those nutrients and then releases them

gradually as the ecosystem needs it. Look at the lakes that are going toxic everywhere. Locke Ney up there in the north of Ireland. Lakes that are going green, green, fully green,

toxic, dead lakes because of too much nitrogen. Too much nitrogen. That's only one factor but too much nitrogen will fuck up a river and fuck up a lake. Wetlands. Hold the nitrogen, hold the phosphorus, and work within the ecosystem to release it gradually as the ecosystem needs it. I mean, what's the financial metaphor for the fucking wetland?

It's just like putting your money in the bank. Instead of getting a paycheck and going, I'm going to spend all of this now on sweets and give myself a sore tummy. Instead of that, I'm going to put my money in the bank and take it out as I need it to meet my needs and pay my bills. That's what the wetland is. But everything I've just spoken about there, everything that's in that UN report, about water bankruptcy. The Bardshit District in Limerick

is actually a microcosm of all of that. Now, if you're a regular listener, you know the crack with the Bardshit District. It's a street in Limerick City where in the summertime, it becomes overwhelmed with Starlings. It's a pedestrianised street. There's only a couple of trees on it.

The Starlings do profound, massive amounts of shits. on the, that's why it's called the Bird Shit District. They do loads of shits on this street every evening. And then people slip on the shit and the whole street stinks. And it just simply doesn't work as an urban street. I drew attention to it over the summer. It caused international tourism to the street.

There were a number of journalists showed up. There was articles about it. I really pissed off Limerick City Council. And I'm glad I fucking pissed them off because they deserve to be pissed off. Did this have the problem? No, they did not. Two months ago they brought someone in to prune the trees severely. So the trees are about 75% less than what they were over the summer. So we're going to have to wait a couple of months to see how the starlings are going to come back.

The same amount. And they're just going to concentrate into a smaller area and shit in a smaller area. That's all that's going to happen. Limerick City Council did something lazy, cowardly, not very smart, boring, predictable, disappointing. They took the battery out of the fire alarm to stop it beeping instead of putting a new battery in. And if they end up responding to this, because I've mentioned it on the podcast, they're just going to say, oh, we consulted some experts and they said to prune the trees to solve the Starling problem.

Here's what's going on with Starlings of Limerick City and why it relates specifically to this new UN report about water bankruptcy. And this is what I figured out over the summer through months and months of research. So very simply, why are thousands of starlings descending on this one street in Limerick City to shit every single evening? Why is that happening? Because I looked at the maps. I looked at what was there before it was a city street. And what was there before it was a city street, it was a riparian zone.

It's right beside the river. It was a riparian zone is. is a little forest that's supposed to flood by a river. It's a forest that is supposed to flood. Repairian zones have the trees like that their roots go into the ground. And riparian zones again are like sponges. They prevent flooding. They're buffers between rivers and land.

Before there was a street or a city on the Barchet district, the starlings would come to roost in those trees in the riparian zone. And they'd shit. did shit every single night loads and loads and loads of shit their shit comes from all the food they ate in the surrounding area

that shit is incredibly nutrient rich so what the starlings are doing every night they're pumping that riparian zone with shit with nutrients with fertilizer riparian zone floods as it's supposed to do and then washes all this shit

and nutrients upstream or up river up the shannon across the way to the fucking wetlands that are across the river, the Westfield wetlands. The wetlands then hold all those nutrients and then release them gradually. So if you view it relationally,

that's why people call me a lunatic but I refused to call that flock of starlings, birds and I started calling them a book because they are a fucking book. They're a book that tells a story of what was there before there was concrete. They're a flux in a cycle. The starlings are taking nutrients from all around the countryside

and then distributing that to a wetland that holds onto it and then releases those nutrients gradually. But now what do you have? Concrete paving. The bird shit lens stays on the concrete. People slip on it. That's the big one. People in the Bardshed District, you slip and people heart themselves

because there's so much birdshed and concrete. But back to nature. The rain washes that. barred shit down, okay? It's not held in any riparian zone. It's not given time. It goes straight into the river as pure fucking nitrogen. And now we've broken a cycle. Now the wetlands up river, it isn't getting its delivery of Starling shit that it has evolved to receive. So that's just one little street with Starlings in Limerick where you can, that's a microcosm that represents everything that this UN Global Report is speaking about. The solution that I want, I propose

over the summer on this podcast and to the council was that in the Bardshed district you install bioswales and bioswales are brilliant they do this in Asia they do it in China a bioswale is it's an artificial wetland you turn a city street into an artificial wetland it just looks like planters like big planters in the street but they're designed to mimic what a wetland does

so then it would be holding the starling shit and releasing the nutrients gradually and mimicking nature and I also proposed like a Starling worship festival a bird shit festival to go in conjunction with this where we recognise the flock of starlings

as a book we recognise it as a novel that can fly to the sky I got called a lunatic course but I guarantee you if they'd have done that if they'd have found the money to turn that street into a bioswale and go ahead with the fucking bird shit festival you've got to think of the bigger picture.

You think about the cultural footprint of a move like that. You demonstrate to the world a way to, for a city to operate within the ecosystem that that city has disrupted. That would have gotten international attention for a fucking Limerick City

and everyone up in the council would have looked brilliant. I guarantee you that's what would have happened. There's already bird shit tourism. It's already there. People coming for the wrong reasons to watch people falling down. we could have flipped that on its head really fucking easily. No, that's not

what they did. They pruned the trees pathetically to ghettoise the starlings. The starlings are coming back. They're not going to leave. This is their ancestral home. I think the starlings are going to show up and go, oh, the trees are looking skinny this year, lads. Better fuck off

and find somewhere else. They turned the trees into hostile architecture. They turned the trees into do you know what they fucking did? There used to be benches on the bird shit district and they removed them so homeless people couldn't sleep on them

and they've done that now to the starlings but the starlings are going to come back and I'm going to fucking record it when it does the starlings are going to come back and they're all going to huddle together on skinny fucking trees and they'll be ghettoized they've made the trees into hostile architecture

all they've done is penalised the starlings the same amount of starlings are going to return they're going to do the same amount of shit they're just going to be huddled together in a smaller space and the shit will be concentrated it'll be concentrated into a smaller space if you saw the state of the fucking trees they've pruned

they're mature trees they've pruned them back as much as possible so it's just a single trunk and then a few spiky bits sticking out the top they look like fucking Bart Simpson if he'd no arms like that just spikes.

Silly, silly, silly men with no imaginations. They recorded a video. They recorded a video over the summer, the council did. Down in the Bardshit District, saying that they were addressing the problem because I'd raised it on this podcast. And someone slipped on bird shit in the video and they didn't even fucking edit it out.

That's what we're dealing with here. I'm sorry to get emotional now about the fucking the Bardshit District. But those Starlings will return. They'll return in about four months and I'll be here. I'll be here waiting if I don't get Charlie Corked. By the fucking council. Oh imagine this.

An opportunity was missed. An opportunity was missed there to not only improve the situation for the Starlings to stop people slipping up but to put Limerick on the map internationally with a bio-swainty-sweigh-weigh. and a bard shit festival. And to lead the way, to lead the way internationally, only good things would have come at that instead of turning to hostile architecture. And again, hostile architecture is part of the privatisation of public spaces. It's part of a fairly disgusting artificial ecosystem,

the ecosystem of neoliberalism. When housing became financialised, then you've got the rise of homelessness, and then you've got all these people trying to use what used to be public spaces to camp. So then cities started to build ways to stop homeless people being homeless. They put spikes on the ground in any sheltered area where the homeless person could shelter. Or park benches, benches in public spaces.

They put dividers in the middle so you can't lie on them. Or in the case here in Limerick, they just took the benches out of the street. And I don't know why they did it, did they do it because of the homeless people or the, because they don't want the people to get shot on. That rain, the country boy. Now that the rain has returned, I think. Let's let the rain decide when we have the ocarina pause. The rain just came back there naturally. A lovely gentle rain today.

Freezing fucking cold outside. Let's have a little pause. You'll hear an advert. But I think silence. is in order for this. Let's just let the the rain do its thing or the flux or the event, whatever you want to call it. Support for this podcast comes from

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Having a fucking clue. I think that's why I focused on the rain. there's nothing more certain than the rain in Ireland that's why I love the rain, the comfort of it I told you the summertime gives me anxiety I don't know whether the hot day comes out and you feel guilty am I enjoying it properly with the fucking rain I know what to do with the rain

I can expect it, it's on time I know to crack with the rain and I gravitated towards the rain this week I think because I'm looking to I want to be grounded by it I want the certainty of it but something that's very important to me with this podcast

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I like Waterford. It's like a slightly more depressing limerick and the Waterford accent is gorgeous. It's like a tipperary person doing an impression of a Dublin person. So I look forward to Waterford this Friday. 31st I'm up in Kildare at the spirit of Kildare Festival. Fuck all tickets for that. Like 10 maybe. But earlier there I was mentioning St. Bridget or Bridgett the Goddess and

I'm actually going to be talking to at this festival. Dr. Neve Wicharly, who she was a contributor on my documentary. She's brilliant. She's an expert in Bridget and St. Bridget. She's fantastic. So I can't wait to chat to Neve. In February the 4th, Vickers Street, Dublin. I think it's fair to say that that one's sold out.

I might release a few tickets on the night, a few guest list tickets, but that one sold out, but I have added a second Vicar Street date. Is that in April is it? 20th of April of a 2nd Vickers Street date there. 12th of February. Belfast at the Waterfront Theatre. I fucking love Belfast. Low tickets for that one.

I have a wonderful guess for that gig. Galway, Leisureland. I'm going to go up to Galway and get jealous. Because that's what Limerick people do when they go to Galway. We walk around Galway and go, why do you have so many tourists? Why do you appear to have a functioning economy? Why is your city doing so much better than our city,

even though we're larger. So much love to golly for that. Killarney, Enoch on the fucking 28th of February. Then Carlo, is that even announced? Is it? Carlo in March,

the Visual Arts Centre. Cork, fucking podcast festival on the 26th of March. And April there, Limerick. And the 9th, is that the 9th? University Concertal Limerick,

my home city. Let's do it. Let's do that. Then England, Scotland and Wales, I probably have a bunch of shit in the summer as well, right? But England, Scotland and Wales, October 26. Brighton, Cardiff, Coventry, Bristol, Guildford, London at the Barbican, almost sold out. Glasgow, that's nearly sold out too. Gateshead and Nottingham.

That tour's a long way away, but those tickets are really going fast. A lot of people bought them over Christmas, so don't be disappointed if you want to come and see me in England, Scotland and Wales. You glorious cunts. So suppose this week's podcast is about water systems. I listened to the rain. I listened to the rain on my fucking tin roof. Instead of being frustrated by it and nied by it. I mean, it's not ideal to have rain bashing off your roof when you're using microphones.

That's not ideal to record a podcast. I like to lean into failure. If something is going wrong, don't fight it, bring it into the process. So I miced the ceiling. and we got that beautiful, beautiful stereophonic sound of rain and tin. And I listened to it and let it inform my research and my writing. So we're talking about rain and water. And it was just a strange coincidence that the UN happened to release that report today

about water bankruptcy, as they call it, that terrible term water bankruptcy, which the world is facing. If you're angry and furious and you're saying to yourself, how does this happen? How do you get to a point where water is privatized? Or to decide that water is something that a corporation or a person can own? How do you get to a point where the environment is exploited and damaged in the interest of profits, even though it's causing widespread harm? How the fuck does that happen?

neoliberalism It's neoliberalism That is how it happens Economic policies First tested out in South America As the test tube In Chile in particular Economic policies brought in by Reagan

and Thatcher Which are now globally widespread Neoliberalism is why we have billionaires Neoliberalism It's a way for Very wealthy people to steal taxes

that's what it is. You pay taxes so that there's infrastructure, sewage, water in your taps, education, health care. I mean, taxes are... It makes you part of the ecosystem. You know it's for the public good, it's for everybody. You pay some taxes and you see it benefit in society all around you

and you go, well, I want to live in this society and that's what taxes are supposed to do. Neoliberalism is a little sneaky thing that happened where private individuals are able to put a toll boot between the tax that you pay and the public service that you think it's going to. A rich person has gone, I'm down the middle here now and I'm taking 90% of that and you don't really know this is happening because it's so confusing. So water, water's not privatized in Ireland yet.

They tried to privatise water by bringing in a company called Irish Water 11 years ago, 12 years ago. the civil disobedience and the protests during the recession I might add were so large so wide scale that it worked and the government stepped back unfortunately

and this is just anecdotal based from what I can see a lot of a lot of lads that I knew who were fucking really into the water protest movement 11 years ago have now been absorbed by the far right if the government wanted to private

water in Ireland now, you, the type of unified protest that we saw in 2014 or 2015, that could not happen now because of polarisation, left versus right polarization, which was

algorithmic, purely fucking algorithmic, came about after COVID, polarization. It's why we can't have unified housing protests now. It's like, well, which type of housing protest are you? Are you the racist housing protest or the not racist housing protest, which one.

So I'm not going to talk about Ireland because we don't have privatized water in Ireland yet, but we fucking will. I'm going to chat about the UK instead. Margaret Thatcher, the neoliberal, privatised water in the UK in 1989. So drinking water, sanitation, storage, which used to be publicly

owned, went into the hands of private interests, private corporations. You still paid for it with your tax. Your taxes still still. paid for it, but now you're paying a private company to look after a public service. That's neoliberalism. What was there before 1989? You had regional water authorities, right? Public sector companies. The water in the UK was owned by the people as a public good, a public resource. It's not privatised. There's not profit here. The regional water authorities provided employment.

The public sector workers who worked for these companies, right? They had very strong job security, right? Job wasn't going anywhere. There were civil servants effectively. Job isn't going anywhere. They've got a pay scale, national fucking pay scale, so a guaranteed wage. They had unions to stand up for their rights. They had pension schemes.

Proper fucking pensions. You take this job working for the regional water authorities and when you can't work anymore, this pension is going to pay you a wage until you fucking die. So you've got a highly skilled, long-term workforce heavily invested in the job. They're not afraid of getting replaced. There's no zero-hour contracts. They don't have to meet quotas. They work for the regional water authorities.

Also, career progression. If I stay in this job, there's pay scales. I can climb up the ladder. I can plan my life out. a sense of certainty, I'm happy here with the regional water authorities. Who paid for that? The taxpayer, the taxpayer paid for that for soarage and drinking water, right? But what you're paying for is this institutionally robust system whose only job is to treat water, maintain it, and not to run it like a business or a revenue stream or something financialized.

It's not profit driven. It is not profit driven. You're taking tax money to maintain water because it's publicly owned for a, it's a necessity. It's a human right. Money that was made is reinvested back into the public good of providing water and the regional water authorities over in the UK.

They manage like entire fucking rivers, catchment areas, right? So that's, we've got the water supply, sewage, flood control, the quality of the water, it's relational. It's systemic, it's relational. It's a way of managing water which reflects the way that fucking nature does it. 1989, patcher. What does she do?

Well, her government takes water, this public thing that everyone should own and privatises it, gives it to rich people. gives it to capitalists. So there was 10 of these regional water authorities, right? They were sold to private investors. All of the assets, millions and millions and millions, the assets of these companies paid for by the public, which were debt-free, all of these assets,

they just get sold, transferred, transferred to some fucking multi-millionaire. And then water, your drinking water, the sewage, is no longer a public system publicly owned, it's now redefined as a commercial service, but you're still paying for it with taxes. Except now, instead of your taxes going to this not-for-profit, regional water authority with fully employed people, instead of your money going to that, or that type of diligence,

it's going to a private company who's focused on making profit. Your taxes are going to a company that wants to make money from your taxes, which means they're going to try and cut corners at every opportunity to maximize profit and to keep their shareholders happy. These new private owners, they don't invest in sewage, in treatment. They don't invest in infrastructure, improving the pipes. Why? Because that costs money. They want to make money.

They don't want to spend it. What are you going to do? Not have water in your taps, not flush your toilet? Are you going to go to the water company and say, I don't want this anymore. I want a competing service. that's not how it works. Now a private company has the monopoly.

You're fucked, you don't have a choice. And they know you don't have a choice. So now they want all of your money and to give you a shit service. All of those employees that had pensions and that had full-time jobs, that's fucking gone. Unions are gone, rights are gone. People are being hired on a contract basis.

No pensions. You're paying more money, more and more money. But it's like, why am I paying so much money in tax? But the service is getting worse and the rivers are more polluted. And there's boil water notices. What's going on? I'm paying all this tax for sewage and water. Why is it shit?

Because it's about profit now. It's not about giving you the best service. It's about funneling tax. Public money. It's about stealing public money and putting it into the hands of a small amount of millionaires who are now billionaires. And then another tentative neoliberalism is what's called deregulation.

Deeregulation. So a regulation is a law, but it's a law that applies for a business. Let's just say I'm a criminal, right? My business is stealing houses. My business is breaking into houses and stealing people's things, okay? That's my business.

I earn a living by breaking into strangers' houses and stealing their things and selling them. That's how I earn a living, right? Unfortunately, there's these pesky things call laws. And when I break into a person's house and steal their stuff, that's actually illegal. And I can get arrested and go to jail for doing that because it's a crime. These laws are very toxic to me as an entrepreneur. As someone who's in the business of breaking into people's houses

and stealing their things, these laws are very toxic, a very anti-business for me. I can't earn a living if the police are going to show up and arrest me just because I'm breaking into someone's house. I'd like to see deregulation so that I as an entrepreneur can succeed. So then Margaret Thatcher comes along and makes it, it's no longer illegal for me to break into houses and steal people's shit. So now I become very wealthy very quickly because of deregulation. But that's what deregulation is except it's for businesses. It's for the crime of polluting. rivers, the crime of destroying ecosystems, the crime of charging poor people, way too much money for soarage and water, the crime of charging them so much that they're in poverty. That crime,

the crime of a person's bills being really, really high that it pushes them into poverty and what they're paying for are things that should be a human right, such as sanitary, sewage and drinking water and for these really really high prices to be charged. Not because that's how much it costs to provide the service, but to charge that high so that you can have huge profits for your shareholders. That fucking crime, these things that are clearly crimes. Like they're crimes, like that should be illegal. Like I know I'm sticking on water here but I'll tell you a fucking crime, a neoliberal crime just to just to deviate slight. In Ireland we've got a housing crisis.

There's a lot of people who can't access housing, can't afford rent, so they're homeless. A lot of these people end up in the streets. Some of these people don't. They end up in a system called emergency accommodation. What's emergency accommodation? It's if a person's homeless, they get a roof over their fucking head temporarily, okay? And it's paid for by the taxpayer, by me and you. That sounds fair.

That's brilliant. I want my taxes to pay for a person to not have to sleep out in the cold. brilliant. However, in Ireland, most of these services are provided by private fucking hotels. Private hotels. So the money that you're paying so a homeless person doesn't have to sleep out in the street tonight, a massive hotel chain is now after stepping in the middle and going, you know what, I'm going to charge market rate. I'm going to charge 380 quid or 400 quid a night. To the government, to the taxpayer, for that homeless person to have a roof over their head tonight. That's a crime.

That's a crime there. That's as harmful as breaking into someone's house and stealing shit. That's a crime. We've also farmed the hotel system out to children that are in residential care. Okay? These are kids who may not have parents. Kids with, let's just say complex needs. I don't want to go labelling children.

Children with complex needs who are in state care, the care of the state. under 18s. They're living in hotels. So again, with this system, hotels are charging the taxpayer. Full whack, full whack for a hotel room and kids who are in care are living in hotel rooms.

But because these kids have complex needs, they're trashing their accommodation. These are children who might have been through abuse, lived through addiction, their brains aren't fully developed, they don't have the capacity to emotionally, regulate, they're dealing with trauma, they're 12, they're 13. And what happens to be working for them in the moment in their little bodies and their little brains

is to smash up their accommodation. Some of these children in Ireland are now being criminalised. So the system has put them into a fucking hotel room. The kid gets in because they've been through God knows what, they smash the fucking hotel room up. These kids could be artistic as well. any number of problems. They're smashing hotel rooms up. These children are being criminalised. They're being charged but property damage, property damage to a hotel.

I know about this because the children's ombudsman is warning against criminalising these children to not prosecute these children because the hotel rooms, the setting, the set a fucking hotel room. They're not designed for kids that are going with complex needs that are going through trauma. They're not designed for this. The environment is not designed for this.

What it's designed for is to maximise the fucking profits of hotels under a neoliberal system where the Ombudsman had to say children who've already experienced trauma should not be treated as criminals for behaviour that would likely be handled with care, support or understanding in any other family home. So that to me is a crime. That's a crime against children. I mean, why are there no adequate services, locations, places, purpose-built accommodation for children with these complex needs? Or if it's an autistic kid who's having a fucking meltdown is smashing the place up somewhere that meets the sensory needs of that kid, why doesn't this exist? Fucking policy. Policy.

The state does not want to take on that financial responsibility. So instead, what it does is it takes taxes. you're still paying to meet the needs of vulnerable kids, which is the right thing to do. You're still paying for it. But instead, one of the big hotel chains comes in and says, I'm going to jump into the middle there. I'm talking big names here, big hotel names in Ireland.

I'm going to step into the middle here between you, the taxpayer and this vulnerable traumatised child. I'm going to step into the middle here. and I'm going to take 90% of this money because hotel rooms are 400 quid a night now and you know why? Because so many hotels are taken up with emergency accommodation,

kids with complex needs who are in residential care and international protection applicants so not only are we profiting massively from this public service but we're creating scarcity too and that's driving the prices up This is fucking great. That should be criminal.

That needs to be illegal. That's a crime. But it's not a crime. That there is neoliberalism. The funneling of public money into private hands and what should be a public service privatized for fucking profit instead of the public good,

instead of doing what it's supposed to do. So back to Thatcher in 1989 and the privatization of water in England. So now the private companies control sewage and water. in England and Wales they're focused only on profit shareholders extracting wealth

from the taxpayer they're not reinvesting in infrastructure they're polluting rivers they're not fulfilling their obligations to maintain the health of rivers fucking wetlands they're making shit of the gaff where are the government

environmental protection organisations who step in and go wait a minute you can't do that that's a crime you need to be disbanded you're committing a crime against nature what happens

Thatcher and successive governments underfund the Environment Agency so the agency that's there to stop the water companies doing this damage they can't do their job because the government are going hands off and not funding those organisations

so now the private companies can just go fucking nuts. And that's not just, this is global. That's America too. That's California. This is what's causing the water bankruptcy. This is what's causing the water bankruptcy, as the UN calls it. Rampant profit and privatization and stripping funding away from organizations

that are supposed to stop it. Deregulation. Every time you hear deregulation. A criminal has successfully lobbied the government to remove the names of crimes so that they can continue doing crime that's what the fuck it is that's what it is

regulation is just a law but it's a law for a business you're seeing things every day of your life just existing you're seeing things that should be illegal homeless spikes would have at one point just have been considered unthinkable barbaric criminal

spikes on a bench so homeless person can't sleep, you get to fucking jail. I'm just going to give you a few stats now about since the privatization of water over in the UK. So since privatisation 85 billion,

right, so that's 85 billion pounds the taxpayer has paid in order to get sewerage and drinking water. 85 billion has gone to shareholders, right? That's stolen money. That's money that didn't go to

improving water systems protecting the environment It's money that went into people's pockets It's stolen It's a toll boot That should be illegal Those people should be in jail That's a crime

Shouldn't exist The fucking The CEO So these water companies In the UK that are privatised The average pay for the CEO's Is 1.7 million a year Since privatisation

your bills have gone up by 40%. Since privatisation, only 14% of English rivers are considered to have good ecological status. In Scotland, Scotland didn't privatise their water. Scotland kept the water publicly owned. So in Scotland, watered that it's in public ownership and the bills are lower, rivers and seas are cleaner, and Scottish water has spent 35% more

reinvesting back into water services. And the big one, in England and Wales, the Environment Agency says that since, so since privatisation, because of the impact of privatisation, by 2050, rivers in England and Wales are going to have 50% to 80% less water

during the summer months. And those statistics are from we own it.org, which is, it's an organisation in England that's just like trying to bring services that used to be public services that are

now private to try and bring them back into public ownership. It said in 2011 Paris, in Paris, they brought water back into public ownership. I want to finish by talking about a snail. A wonderful, wonderful snail. I mentioned earlier during the Ocarina pause about the chaos that Donald Trump is unleashing on the world, the fucking bullying. The Trump administration hates Europe. They hate Europe because Europe means regulation. The EU means regulation.

regulations. It's not fucking perfect, but there's regulation in the EU. America wants to sell chickens dipped in bleach. And they can't do it, they can't sell it to the EU because of regulation. The EU is like, no, health and safety. We don't want to be eating chickens that are dipped in bleach. We think it's not safe. And Trump is like, fuck that, get rid of the regulation, deregulated. America released some five.

policy document about a month ago. I can't remember the name of it, but it explicitly said that America is worried about Europe, that Europe has lost its way, and that America will directly support. I'll paraphrase it. America will explicitly support

far-right parties. Far-right parties in Europe, if they want to come to power, America is going to step in and support those parties in any way it can. Do you know why? Because fucking fascism and capitalism go hand in hand.

So whatever far right pricks that are out there, whether it's reform or Nigel Farage, they all love neoliberalism. American knows that if they get far right governments into France, into Italy, Ireland, whoever, the first thing those governments will do is cow-taught to industry. They'll deregulate and they'll let big business do whatever the fuck it wants to maximize profit.

That's what. That's what fascism and the far right does, hand in hand with capitalism. You want to trace the roots. Roots from neoliberalism, they go to Chile. All right. Chile had a fascist coup in the 70s, Pinochet.

And when he took over as a fascist dictator, Chile explicitly was used as a test tube for neoliberalism via a group of economists called the Chicago Boys. They were South American economists who went to a university in Chicago, and trained underneath, I think it was Milton Friedman, yet was trained underneath Friedman, and they brought neoliberal economics to Chile in the 70s,

and this was the test tube. And all the shit that we live with today, the fucking dystopia that we live with, began in Chile. And it was America. America helped that coup that got Pinnichet into power, because there was a socialist there called Salvador Aende, who believed that public services should be owned by the public.

and the yanks went, fuck that, put in penis, put in the fascist, he's going to deregulate everything and American companies can come in and absolutely plunder the place. That's why Trump is a prick about Europe. It's regulation. It's regulation and trade. I don't like these fucking rules. I don't like these rules that says that I can't sell you bleach chicken.

I want to finish by talking about a wonderful little snail, a hero, a tiny fucking snail smaller than your fingernail. standing up to Donald Trump. Trump owns a golf course in Clare called Dunbeg. In Clare in Ireland like Dunbeg Golf Course and it's a Trump resort. And Trump wants to build a giant ballroom. On this golf course, in Clare he wants to build a huge ballroom. But part of this golf course is on a wetland.

And on this wetland is a tiny little snail called Vertigo and Gustav. are. And this little snail is a protected species under the EU habitats directive. There's your regulation there. That's environmental protection regulation, biodiversity

regulation. The EU has a law that says sorry Donald Trump this tiny snail is more fucking important than you are and you can't build your ballroom because this snail here is

endangered and it's really, really important and it's way more important than profits. And Trump hates that, but that's fucking regulation. That is regulation. For Trump to build over these wetlands and to destroy this snail, this snail that's going extinct, that's a crime, that would be a crime, that's unthinkable, that should be illegal, he should go to jail. It is a fucking crime. The regulation says you can't do that.

It's illegal. But just to... This little snail is so... magnificent. Snails in general are great because they're indicators, they tell us about the land. This snail is in, do you know why this snail is in decline? Because if this snail isn't present on a wetland, it means that the wetland is dying. Its habitat is disappearing. That UN report about water bankruptcy, wetlands are going. Like I said there in Limerick, the bird should district. The starlings are shitting

in what used to be a riparian zone, but their shit is no longer flowing up to the wetland. It's not going there anymore because it's going on concrete. So the wetlands are dying because the ecosystem has been interrupted. This is a sensitive little snail, lives in wetlands. It lives in permanently damp calcium-rich wetlands,

especially where there's June slacks and fens, wet grasslands. it can't survive a dry wetland an unhealthy wetland the numbers of this snail have been declining rapidly in Dunbeg this snail is already at the

cost of being extinct but its numbers that are declining rapidly in Dunbeg and what that's telling you it's not necessarily telling you about that snail it is but it's telling you about the ecosystem that it's a part of you see you can't commodify that snail it's not one

little thing. It's telling it that the wetland is dying. That snail is the UN report. Why is that snail a protected species that's on the cusp of extinction? Because the wetlands are going. All over Europe, that's, that snail is, is declining all over Europe because the wetlands aren't healthy anymore. And the wetlands aren't healthy. Because the aquifers aren't healthy. Because the cycle has been interrupted because of neoliberal capitalism, because of the complete extraction of wealth from the environment and the defunding of the organisations that are supposed to stop it. So that little snail is an indicator species. Just like regular snails are, you know, if you've got a bunch of snails on your lawn, it means that there's calcium in the soil. If you don't have a bunch of snails on

your lawn, there's no calcium in the soil. It's an acidic soil. So snails are wonderful because because they're so close to the ground they can tell us about soil chemistry but this little snail tells us about the health of wetlands this year I think they only found 53 in Dunebeg only 53 of this tiny little snail

like that's fuck all 53 of a few little snails this little snail is standing up to Donald Trump its existence is triggering regulation that says no Donald you can't build the fucking ballroom

that's illegal. That would be a crime. And if I'm leaving you with a positive note... And again, this is... It's so fucking frustrating. I'm leaving me with a positive note to go, what the fuck can you do to help wetlands? Almost all of the solutions I can offer,

again, fall underneath neoliberalism. So I promise you, if you live near wetlands or riparian zones, your local council has commissioned a report on those wetlands. Like there's the one for Limerick. I read it all the time. It's a PDF.

It's a wonderful fucking document. All about the health of the Limerick wetlands and fens. Fens I didn't even fucking know about. Chances are if you go looking. There's going to be a wetland group who dedicate themselves to trying to rewild and rewet wetlands. And they go there to pluck out invasive weeds,

to do a bit of digging, to keep that wetland health. healthy. So a very constructive thing you can do is join one of those groups and get stuck in. Groups that they build ponds and they build wetlands. Like Callie Ennis who I've had on this, who's the chief biodiversity officer up in Trinity College. He's been on this podcast about four times. Collie is constantly building ponds and helping with wetlands. And another really constructive thing you can do. And this is a highly neoliberal suggestion. If you work in a large office, right, or a huge company.

You go to your HR department. I fucking hate HR because HR replaced unions. I fucking hate HR. No disrespect if you work in HR. Because generally people who work in HR tend to be incredibly approachable, friendly, lovely people. But unions used to exist.

Unions were a form of collective bargaining where the fucking workers could have their demands met. And it was about the rights and needs of workers. Then unions got kicked out because of neoliberalism and then replaced with HR. HR mediate worker disputes always in the interest of the fucking company. And they replaced things like healthcare and pensions

and full-time contracts and job security. They replaced these things with... ping pong tables, a fridge full of beer, casual Fridays, and team building exercises, team building exercises, a lot of fucking bollocks. Wouldn't you much prefer to have some job security? But anyway, if you're in a large fucking company, go to your HR department

and suggest that all the workers are the team building exercise, because I've seen them, who does a lot of this in Limerick? Regeneron. So you get these huge companies and they do these team building exercises but they often do it for the community good. So go to your HR and your big company and say,

why don't we have a team building exercise where everyone goes out and helps rewild a wetland or build a giant pond and your HR department are going to get a fucking a bonner that had drive the farmers out of thyrless when they hear this

because they get to be all performative. The company now can be performative and have a team building exercise and they might get some carbon credits out of it. They get to publicly perform how much they care about the environment. But that's a nice little neoliberal solution there

about something you can do. For wetlands or for fens, a fenn is great. A fenn? Fenn is a wetland but it's not, it's fed by groundwater. It's fed by like a spring.

So the nutrients that, like the natural fertiliser that a fenn gets, It's from deep, deep underground in the rocks. So it gets a lot of micronutrients, weird minerals, zinc, calcium, calcium. It depends on what rocks are underneath the fen. The nutrients come up via a spring in the groundwater. And then the fen is a wetland.

But of course, it then holds these nutrients and distributes them slowly. But what you get then, you get a lot more biodiversity and plant variation. in a fen because there's just more diversity of fertiliser of minerals that are coming up from underneath the ground. And I didn't think Limerick had any fens, but I read that report, the report on Limerick wetlands and there's actually a fen out by South Circular Road. I used to know, I've never been there but I knew lads who...

You're in the Celtic tiger. Fucking hell. These were the type of lads who used to steal car. so that they could drive them like lunatics and then set them on fire. And then during the Celtic Tiger they all got jobs out in Dell. And what they used to do on a Friday, because they had money. They would purchase a shit car, like purchase a car for 500 quid between them, so they'd legally own it. Then they'd go to this fen and drive it around and set it on fire.

they'd managed to deregulate stealing cars. I'm not suggesting that that's a good thing to do in a fen. I'm just saying, I didn't know that was a fen, I now do know it's a fen, and this is what lads, who I knew about 20 years ago, that's what they used to do.

They used to purchase cars and set them on fire in this fen. That was a podcast about water, all right? Very important. I'll catch you next week. Rub a dog, genuflect to a dune bag, snail. Rewild the wetland. Dog bless.