The Blindboy Podcast - Intrapersonally Speaking
Episode Date: April 12, 2022I just found out that I am Autistic. I speak about my experience of learning this about myself Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....
Transcript
Discussion (0)
Breakfast Christ dangles on the Weetabix Crucifix. Take a bite from his thigh, you
Clemmie Anthonys. Welcome to the Blind Boy Podcast. If you're a brand new listener,
go back and listen to some earlier podcasts to familiarise yourself with the lore of this
podcast. And if you're a regular listener, if you're a weeping Sheila, you know the crack.
Welcome back. Thank you for the lovely feedback for last week's podcast it was a mental health podcast
we spoke about the psychology of core beliefs
via the metaphor of the Wizard of Oz
and whenever I do a mental health episode
that uses like a device from popular culture
like the Wizard of Oz
or I did ones on Aesop's Fables
anytime I do that I get quite a positive response
so I'm going to try
and continue threading that theme into any mental health episodes. I think using storytelling,
in particular stories that we're already familiar with, using those type of things as a device to
speak about mental health health to have mental health
conversations is quite effective because i don't think we have a cultural literacy
when it comes to speaking about our internal world like if you mental health is mentioned
quite a bit on the media the past few years which is a good thing but often it's spoken about in
via platitudes that are quite behavior based be kind open up talk to someone
and that's very useful and it's certainly better than it not being spoken about at all
but i can't remember the last time i turned on the television or the radio and I heard someone speaking in depth about the emotion of anger
or what it's like to experience jealousy
or what it's like to experience having low self-esteem
and believing that other people are better than you
or the experience of contempt where you believe yourself to be better than others are the words that we use
and the beliefs that we have internally
when we experience anxiety.
Internal dialogue.
The things we say to ourselves in our own heads in private.
Because you'll know if you've ever experienced anxiety or depression.
That's kind of where it starts.
It's the things you say to yourself.
I'm incapable. I'm useless. I will never be able to overcome this thing that I'm scared of.
If only I was better at this, better at that. You're a piece of shit. These are very painful
internal conversations. And when you're in the throes of crisis that's the inside of your head
all day long
all the time
and for me
my daily goal
is through mindfulness
through self-awareness
through self-compassion
is to replace that internal dialogue
that negative
rigid internal dialogue
with something that's a bit more
self-forgiving
and flexible
so that I then have the head space
to think about the things I want to think about
my interests
my passions
the things that give me a sense of meaning and happiness
so we tend not to discuss that
internality
not in the media
and not really in
conversations with each other out loud.
Because we attach a lot of shame to it.
Speaking about our negative internal self-talk out loud is quite scary.
You have to learn to be comfortable with vulnerability in order to do that.
It feels like taking off a layer of clothes a little bit.
in order to do that. It feels like taking off a layer of clothes a little bit.
For a lot of people, consciously thinking about or even mentioning private internal dialogue tends to really only happen if you're lucky enough to attend counselling or psychotherapy.
And then the counsellor says to you, you know, what phrases or words are going around your head
when you're feeling depressed let's speak about some
of that so i think using storytelling metaphors familiar stories like the wizard of oz and the
tin man who thought he was stupid using these things that we we already understand to then
have a conversation about internal dialogue i think that's it's proven
to be really effective on this podcast and it's only something i've realized in the past year
based on your feedback because when i do a mental health episode and it's about asap's fables or the
story with the lion and the thorn in his paw i'm speaking about fucking psychology that's what I'm speaking about I'm speaking about cognitive psychology specifically
but
I just noticed that ye really seem to
pick up on it and take something from it
when it's told via a familiar story
so I'm going to continue doing that
going forward if I can
so I think this week's podcast
is going to be a little bit chaotic
because I had something planned and then that got to be a little bit chaotic because I had something planned
and then that got derailed a little bit and the reason is um if you've been listening to this
podcast for the past few weeks you'll know that I'm I currently am undergoing an assessment for
autism because I have lots of autistic listeners to this podcast. Not just autistic listeners, people who are neurodivergent.
They might be ADHD.
So anyway, quite a few listeners over the years have flagged with me
that certain aspects of how I speak about things
or how I relate to the world
reminds them of themselves and their autism.
So I got my diagnosis at the weekend.
And I am in fact autistic.
Which is it's quite a lot to take on board to be honest.
Because.
Well first off the weird thing about it is.
You know I receive a diagnosis.
Which is quite medicalised.
And it's getting my head around it is odd
because finding out that I'm autistic
is a real challenge to my sense of identity
if you get what I'm saying
I started off this podcast speaking about
internal dialogue
how we speak to ourselves, well, how I form
my sense of self and my sense of identity and who I am, which I've been dealing with
my whole life, that is now challenged because now I've learned that I'm autistic.
Now the odd thing with that is, the thing with diagnosis diagnosis there's this irrational part of my brain that feels like
I'm after getting autism do you get me when in fact what's happened is someone has just given
me a new word to describe how I've been my entire life so I have been autistic my whole life since I was born I'm just finding it out now in my 30s
which is quite challenging that's very challenging to receive new information like that because
I kind of had my sense of self figured out or I felt I did and I had the history of my existence figured out
and now I'm looking back at my entire life and who I am now with kind of a new lens
so I would like to speak about it because I can't not speak about it I think if I try if I
just learned that I'm autistic and then tried to do a podcast
about something different I wouldn't be emotionally present in the theme of that podcast I need to
speak about this because that's this is the only thing that's on my mind like I haven't squared it
with myself yet even saying out loud I'm autistic I can't congruently connect with that word from my head to my heart
do you get me?
because it's too new
I've just found out a few fucking days ago
and it's a
it's now a challenge to my identity
I'm reappraising my whole sense of self
and it shouldn't
because as I mentioned
I haven't suddenly become autistic. I've been autistic
my whole life but my internal script of who I am I now have to go back and edit it. So
before I even begin I'm only going to speak about my experience as an autistic person having just learned that I'm autistic I'm not going to
speak about anyone else's fucking experience because here's the other mad thing I just found
out I'm autistic but to be honest I don't know a hell of a lot about autism and the one thing I can tell is that the space of autism is a bit of a minefield at the moment.
It's because we're learning so much about it recently, is my guess.
I'll give you an example recently.
I had Keith Duffy on the podcast a few weeks back.
We had an amazing podcast, wonderful crack.
Keith is a lovely person.
And Keith has been a large voice in autism awareness
in Ireland going back 20 years and a lot of autistic people and parents of autistic kids
contacted me to thank Keith for the work he's done around autism awareness but one thing Keith
promoted was a treatment for autism known as ABA I I'd never heard of it, I hadn't a clue.
But this treatment is very controversial in autistic circles
and a huge amount of autistic people are not happy with ABA as a treatment.
So that's one thing I want to say because I learned that recently.
And I will have experts, autism experts, on this podcast
in the coming year when I get my head around it.
And I'll make sure that these people are rigorous, respected, qualified people.
And that whoever I have on this podcast to speak about autism, if I do, that they will be doing it from a position of best practice, professionalism and compassion the same degree of safety that i put in place when i
have someone come on here and speak about mental illness or mental health i'll be doing the same
if i have someone on speaking about autism so i'm an autistic person and i'm going to speak about
me and my experience and that's it and if i fuck up and i say something wrong, I promise you that would be from a position of ignorance and not knowing rather than me being willfully irresponsible.
And if I do say something wrong, please give me a DM, shoot me a DM and explain to me what I said wrong and point me in the direction of where I can learn.
And then I'll take accountability for it.
But please don't do a big
Twitter call out
if I get something wrong
I don't have the fucking headspace for that
and big giant Twitter call outs
they often don't work
because what happens is that
you might be well intentioned
and then it gets misinterpreted
and willfully taken out of context
and
because that's what Twitter is
Twitter isn't a social justice platform like it's a terrible thing misinterpreted and willfully taken out of context and because that's what twitter is twitter twitter
isn't a social justice platform like it's a terrible thing that twitter has become the platform
for social justice it's not even a social media platform twitter is a video game where people
compete to have the best complaint and it's designed specifically to elicit only the most angry, fearful, combative responses
so that billionaires can get rich off the data of your reactionary emotions.
That's what Twitter is.
But I'm going to hopefully avoid saying anything incorrect or wrong this week
because I'm going to speak only about my experience
as someone who just
found out they're autistic. One thing I have learned is the importance of using person first
language. So I'm not going to say I have autism or I got autism. I'm going to say I'm autistic.
So it's not a thing that I have. It's who I am. This podcast is going to be a little bit self-indulgent because I need to do it.
If you're a long-time listener to this podcast, you know whenever I speak about mental health, I also do it for me.
When I speak about the internality of my emotional world on this podcast and I speak about my mental health regime,
it's also a form of self-therapy, it's a form of self-talk, it's also a form of self-therapy it's a form of self-talk
it's almost a form of journaling and when I speak about my experiences on this podcast
it helps me and if I'm sufficiently emotionally congruent which means that my feelings and my
thoughts are one then it kind of vicariously helps other people too so that's why I do it
I'll probably have a hot take next week,
but this week I just need to be emotionally authentic with myself
and process shit.
I'm going to speak about my autism in two parts.
There was the first part of my life,
mainly school,
where I experienced great difficulty.
And then the second part of my life,
from my early twenties up until now,
where I've done fucking fantastically.
I've been mentally healthy. I've achieved a shit ton of goals. I am happy with who I am. I love and
enjoy life. The mental health problems that arose for me which I now have to reframe and understand
that they may have been driven by autism but the mental health difficulties and the sadness and the barriers that I experienced in the first part of my life
they weren't caused by me they were caused by the structures and systems that I had to fit into
and then when I started to live my own life and pursue the current career that I have. There are no barriers.
If something in my environment isn't working for me,
I flexibly change to make it work for me.
And the consequence of that is that 95% of the time,
I'm a happy person with a decent sense of self-esteem,
a good mental health,
and achieving what I would like to achieve in my life for a sense of self-esteem, a good mental health and achieving what I would like to achieve
in my life for a sense of personal meaning. And to be honest, that's kind of all I want.
I don't have a strong desire to be really successful. I don't have a strong desire to be
famous. What I want is, can I earn a living doing the thing that I love every day?
Can I do that?
And if I can do that, then I enjoy being alive.
The experience of existing is pleasurable.
So before I begin, so with my autism diagnosis,
the area where I've had the most difficulty is social interaction with other humans.
Things like small talk in particular, maintaining eye contact, stuff like that,
which is instinctual to people who are neurotypical, for me, has always been a bit difficult.
It doesn't mean I can't do it. I do do it, and I do it really well.
But doing that requires effort for me, so I tend to not do a lot do it. I do do it and I do it really well but doing that requires effort for me so I tend
to not do a lot of it. I tend to not put myself into a lot of situations where I'm having small
talk or interacting with large groups of people. I've always been that way and up until now I just
used the word introvert to describe it. I have an introverted personality. I enjoy my own company and being with other people,
it's not intolerable, it's just not my comfort zone.
But having spoken to a psychologist and been assessed,
it's actually autism.
The problem with this is that it increases the likelihood of
social rejection, bullying,
fitting in comfortably in something like the school system,
which is designed
for neurotypical people. So over time this resulted in social anxiety, a fear of society itself.
Another issue for me is what's called executive functioning. I would have had difficulty paying
attention in school. I would have had difficulty planning. I would have had difficulty doing things like homework,
having the initiative to do homework by myself.
I haven't been formally assessed for dyscalculia,
but I do believe I have dyscalculia
and that I had dyscalculia throughout school
because my capacity to do maths is incredibly poor.
I have difficulty still reading the time
I can read the time
but when I read the time
I don't look at a clock and know what time it is
it takes a short moment
for me to figure out the time
but that's every time I look at a clock
so things like
adhering to deadlines
planning things out
being on time for appointments,
that requires quite a good deal of effort from me.
I'd do it, but it requires a good deal of effort.
I would have had difficulty around inhibition.
So I would behave in ways that would be inappropriate.
The kind of basic skills that you learn to function independently in society these things for me
were difficult and when you're in school put all that shit together and on the outside it looks
like a very disruptive misbehaved bald child but the other thing with my autism is I frequently
experience what's called hyper focus.
So I don't need to tell you this.
You listen to this podcast.
I've made a fucking career out of it.
I'm nonstop all the time thinking about ideas, art, creativity, music, history, whatever the fuck it is.
90% of my day is spent focusing intensely on the thing that interests me most at that moment
if I'm focused on something
I can operate at about 10 times the normal speed
that someone else can do
that's my own assessment of that
if I enter a state of creative flow in particular
I'm like a laser beam.
It's like a fucking race car.
I have to literally remove myself from other people
because my brain is going so fast.
And it feels fucking amazing.
I love it.
That's the feeling that I live for.
It's so much crack.
I have an ability to see connections
where other people don't see connections.
Like, my creativity and my artistic
abilities these aren't because of my autism but my capacity to focus on them so intensely for so
long and shutting everything else out that's been a massive help to me and I've built a career out
of it and I love it but in school that was not a good
thing because I might be focused on something that has nothing to fucking do with school
also in my social interactions with people throughout my life I got better at it now as
I'm getting older but I if if I'm not properly grounded before a conversation with somebody
I have to be very careful because what will happen is, I will speak only about the thing that I'm interested in at that moment,
regardless of what's going on in the rest of the conversation,
now,
I watch myself around this,
I've learned to do what's known as masking,
around this,
because if you do that too much,
people call you mental,
people call you eccentric,
people call you mad,
and I don't really like that,
like I might bump into
I might bump into someone in the street who I haven't seen in five years I'll say hello before
they get a chance to talk I'm going into a tirade about how Kellogg's cornflakes were invented as an
anti-masturbation aid in the 1800s then I stop talking and I might leave the conversation without saying goodbye
and then the person is left going, Jesus Christ, he's mad. Like as part of my diagnosis, I was
asked to speak a bit about family history because, I don't know, I honestly don't know is autism
genetic or is it environmental, I don't know that information, but I was asked about family history
and I had a great grandfather in West
Cork I'm talking about the year 1900 here from the stories I've heard he was seen as a lunatic
he used to he was obsessed with reading he used to read everything he could get his hands on
he used to love information about the world but on at the end of his farm at his gate it was the only road to the creamery
and he used to stand at the end of his gate every day
and stop every single person on the road
so he could read out his poetry
or so he could tell them facts about the world
but the thing is that
all of these farmers
who needed to go to the creamery
they'd go to the creamery with a milk churn
on their horse's back and then they'd come back from the creamery with that milk being made into butter.
But when they came back they used to have to avoid the road. They used to have to go along the fields
because if they stopped on the road and my great-grandfather stopped them to speak about
his poetry or to give them facts about the world, the butter would melt,
on their horses backs,
and all the horses would leave,
with buttery legs,
and buttery shoulders,
which I think is a beautiful image,
but that same great grandfather,
he let his farm go to shit,
like he'd be so obsessed,
with writing his poetry,
or reading his books,
that not only was he not, bringing his milk to the fucking creamery,
he was destroying all the
butter in west cork when he wasn't liked for that but all his sons were in the ira and they helped
to get the brits out of west cork so that kind of made up for it and thinking back at that that
sounds like a man who may have been on the autistic spectrum i mean that's what i'd be doing if i was
in the 1900s and didn't have a fucking podcast but mindfulness checking in at my body
self-talk grounding myself learning to listen is something I do that requires effort so that I
don't go into a big tirade and I prefer operating that way it's nicer to exist in society that way
I get to engage empathy that way so I can pick and choose when I decide to
go on a big rant about whatever it is that I'm passionate about at that time. And I have control
around it through mindfulness and grounding. I've just figured that out over the years.
But one thing that's a bit of a, it can be seen as a negative consequence of all this is I don't
really have friends and I've never really had friends and I don't really have much of a
social life. I've got tons of acquaintances. I've got tons of people who maybe once or twice a year
I can meet up and have a pint but I don't have close friendships. I've got people who are family
that I'm close with but I don't really have close friendships and I've never had close friendships
and I've never understood close friendships or And I've never understood close friendships.
Or even really wanted them.
Now on the outside that can look lonely.
But I don't experience it as lonely at all.
Because all I want to do is be alone with my thoughts.
Because that's where my happiness is.
Now not all the time.
Maybe 90% of the time.
I do require a certain amount of social interaction.
Covid lockdown was not good for me.
The mental health impacts of COVID for me were so detrimental and led to such executive dysfunction.
I spoke about this.
I difficulty responded to emails.
I wasn't able to tidy up after myself.
I was becoming forgetful.
I wasn't able to tidy up after myself. I was becoming forgetful. I wasn't able to go to bed on time.
That's executive dysfunction,
which flared up because of COVID lockdown.
So being a complete hermit like I had in COVID,
that does not benefit my mental health in one bit.
And it was that COVID experience also
which drove me towards searching for an autism diagnosis
because I kind of just said to myself fuck me
you've been trying the same mental health techniques now for a long time and nothing's
really getting better it's just you're managing it so maybe there's something else here but like
I said the main thing I'm dealing with this week is finding out that I'm autistic is like I said
it's challenging my sense of self and my sense of identity,
which is quite overwhelming.
In particular, it's I'm having to reappraise my past,
my experience of school.
Like I mentioned last week,
the difficult time I had in school,
failing my leave in cert cert being unable to do maths
and I had a terrible
time in school
I did have a bit of crack
I had a lot of crack
because I knew
how to have fun
but I was very
very heavily
excluded
in school
very heavily
from the youngest
age possible
and this happened at all points of my education in school very heavily from the youngest age possible.
And this happened at all points of my education.
From play school to primary school to secondary school.
At all points.
I was punished heavily by teachers and by the system
and by the education system itself.
And what's making me angry is
I'd kind of squared
this myself I knew school wasn't for me I knew that I just thought look I'm just really creative
I really like art and music and these things and I was so interested in these things that
I just wasn't interested in doing school work and I was also very disruptive and I was so interested in these things that I just wasn't interested in doing school work
and I was also very disruptive and I was bold so I think of these things and I go fuck it
look you're an adult now things can change but looking back in it now and going holy shit
I was an autistic child who received no support whatsoever now I realized that my education was effectively
fucking stolen from me by successive generations of adults who should have flagged something
like my first ever ever day of school when I was about four years of age.
Like I'll never forget it because it stuck with me as a traumatic memory
but I was four years of age.
I don't think I knew I was
going to school. All of a sudden I was just
arrived into this fucking classroom.
And the
level of anxiety that I felt
at
the sheer unpreparedness of it. Just all of a sudden
going from being a child at home and I had my little books and my ties and then all of
a sudden now I'm wearing a uniform and I'm in a class of 30 kids the same age as me,
all four or five years of age. And I remember looking around and just wondering how the fuck are all of you okay with just being
here what's going on and that's when I had my first ever like extreme I suppose you'd call it
a panic attack at four years of age I just couldn't deal with being in the classroom with all those
kids now I wasn't the only kid who was upset because I do remember scanning the room
and looking to see who else is crying.
And I remember being,
one little girl was crying
and one little boy was crying.
And when I saw them,
it made me feel okay
because I went, right, okay,
I'm not the only one.
But the difference with me,
because I remember it,
they stopped crying
after about 15 minutes and got with the flow. And I remember it they stopped crying after about 15 minutes
and got with the flow
and I remember the teacher
trying to sing songs, trying to do everything
crayons were out
this was like an introductory day
but for me nothing worked
nothing worked
and I cried so much
it hurt
and then I kept crying and crying and crying
until I puked up
I puked all over a young fella beside me
by the name of Raymond
because I remember it
he's a guard now
and after about an hour
they had to ring home and say
your young fella's still crying
he's puking up everywhere
he's crying
there's nothing we can do to get him calm, nothing, so my brother came in, and my brother, he'd have been about,
jeez, he might have been 19, I'd say, and my brother brought with him, because he knew,
he brought with him a tape of T-Rex, which when I was four, T-Rex was my favourite band. All I would do all day is listen
to that T-Rex tape, Mark Bolan. And T-Rex was my favourite band because T-Rex was also my favourite
dinosaur. And my brother came to the classroom and the teacher was a nun. And my brother said,
here, just, you've a tape player up at the top of the classroom, take this tape, play it, play that music,
and I promise you he will stop crying, he'll calm the fuck down.
And I remember I felt okay that my brother was there,
I knew I felt happy that I was about to hear T-Rex,
and then the fucking bollocks of a nun wouldn't play it,
because she said that's adult music,
that's not music for children.
And she refused to play it because she said that's adult music that's not music for children and she refused to play it and then tried to bring me up and get me to listen to fucking some bullshit children's music they
were playing which I had no interest in because I was very very very into music at the age of four
like advanced obsession with T-Rex andid bowie so then i just started bawling
crying and puking again until i had to be taken home early and i'll never forget the shame of it
the shame of it and then looking around at all the other kids and going there's something with
me is different i'm different why couldn't i just sit in that classroom like all the rest of
them and I couldn't go back so I missed my first week of school there was no way my parents could
send me back not after that reaction not after this wasn't simple anxiety on the first day of
school this was an exceptional overwhelming bodily reaction that resulted in me puking so i missed my first week
of school but what was it that made me finally go so my ma took me to there was a pond where
we used to look at ducks and my ma took me to this pond where i'd see the ducks and i was under i
understood this pond and at the pond she was able to point and said see that building over there that's the
school and only when in my mind I could map out the journey of ah okay well I'm familiar with the
duck pond and if I can see the school from the duck pond then the school mustn't be that far away
so now it's less scary and then I just started going to school.
But I tell you why I remember that day so vividly.
Because four is a young age to be fucking remembering a day as perfectly as that.
And the reason I remember that so vividly is
as an adult of 19 or 20,
when I first started to get extreme panic attacks.
And extreme social anxiety.
And agoraphobia.
And a fear of socialising.
Being in public places.
Which I lived with for about maybe 2 or 3 years.
When I was getting intense panic attacks.
As an adult.
The theme of my panic attack was.
What happens if I'm in a public space.
And when I'm in this public space and when I'm in this public space I puke and everyone stares at me so I know that my panic attacks came from that first experience
because obviously the shame of being in that classroom when I was four years of age and puking
on someone and all the other kids staring and going that one's different and then me getting
the strong feeling of I'm different I'm not like them I can't do what you can do I can't just go
to school I know that that led to my panic attacks when I was older because that was the theme of them
but now having just received the autism diagnosis I know that the trigger for that experience was my autism
that extreme social anxiety that sense of being different the inability to do what other people
instinctually consider to be normal which is to gather together in a group for me the intensity
of having to be in such a massively social situation
with other four year olds
triggered intense anxiety
that I wasn't prepared for
and somebody should have flagged it
as
that's quite an exceptional reaction
there were one or two other kids
who were anxious too
but this young fella's reaction
lasted the entire day
nothing stopped it
absolutely nothing, this was
something extra, maybe this young
fella needs supports or some description
but that was the early 90s
and those supports probably didn't fucking
exist, I think I'll do a little
ocarina pause now before I continue
I'm going to play the ocarina
which is a clay whistle
and I'm going to do this so thatina which is a clay whistle and I'm going to do this
so that you don't get startled by a sudden advert.
So when I play this ocarina
you're going to hear an advert.
On April 5th, you must be very careful
Margaret. It's a girl. Witness
the birth. Bad things will start to happen.
Evil things of evil. It's all for. Witness the birth. Bad things will start to happen. Evil things of evil.
It's all for you.
No, no, don't.
The first omen.
I believe the girl is to be the mother.
Mother of what?
Is the most terrifying.
Six, six, six.
It's the mark of the devil.
Hey!
Movie of the year.
It's not real. It's not real.
What's not real?
Who said that?
The first omen.
Only in theaters April 5th.
Will you rise with the sun to help change mental health care forever?
Join the Sunrise Challenge to raise funds for CAMH,
the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health,
to support life-saving progress in mental health care.
From May 27th to 31st, people across Canada will rise together
and show those living with mental illness and addiction that they're not alone.
Help CAMH build a future where no one is left behind. So who will you rise for? Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca.
playing only the low notes there because I know people's dogs are getting upset
by the ocarina when I play the high notes
and I don't want to be upsetting any dogs
support for this podcast comes from you the listener
via the Patreon page
patreon.com forward slash the blind boy podcast
this podcast is my full time job
this podcast is how I earn a living I adore making this podcast www.theblindboypodcast.com you enjoy this podcast, if you listen to it, if it brings you entertainment, calmness, solace,
joy, if it helps you pass the
time, whatever it is this podcast
does for you,
please consider paying me
for the work that I'm doing.
All I'm looking for is the price of a pint or a cup of
coffee once a month, that's it.
So think to yourself, fuck it, I like
Blind Boys podcast, if I met him in real life
I would buy him a pint.
Well, you can, and please do, via the Patreon page.
And if you can't afford it, don't worry about it.
You can listen for free.
Because the person who can afford it is paying for you to listen for free.
So everybody gets a podcast, and I get to earn a living.
Patreon.com forward slash TheBlindBoyPodcast.
It's a wonderful model that's based on soundness and kindness.
Also, being a patron keeps this podcast fully independent.
The podcast space at the moment in general
is forevermore getting utterly engulfed
by corporate podcasts, celebrity podcasts.
There's 90 new podcasts a week.
A lot of them are shit.
Quality in general is really going downhill
because they're putting money before creativity.
And podcasts that are small and independent,
which is what podcasting is about,
these podcasts are getting buried
and are disappearing and are harder to find.
So supporting this podcast keeps it independent.
It means that I'm not beholden to advertisers because it's advertisers who fuck podcasts up.
Advertise my product. Here's a list of things you can and can't talk about.
I didn't like that episode. Change that.
That episode was too weird. Make it more normal.
Do you think you could do a podcast about Love Island?
People really like Love Island island it represents our brand so i don't have to deal with any of that shit and
i don't want to ever deal with that shit um so please support the podcast to keep it independent
and not just my independent podcast any independent small podcast that you enjoy and like listening to
support that podcast monetarily or simply
sharing it on your social media
and telling people to listen to it
leaving reviews, all that stuff matters
also catch me on Twitch on Thursday
nights where I'm doing my never ending
live video game musical
twitch.tv forward slash the blind
by podcast Thursday at half 8
now let's get back to the podcast
and if you were expecting
a hot take this week,
I do apologise
because this is quite
a self-indulgent podcast.
But I really needed to do it. I really need to speak
about this shit so that I can
move forward with the hot takes.
I need to get this stuff off my chest.
But that was a theme throughout school
from as long as I can remember,
the sense of not fitting in with other kids,
not having the same interests as other kids,
not feeling like I can speak to other kids.
I was actually a bit more comfortable speaking to adults.
I wasn't interested in the games that the kids were playing.
Literally nothing the other kids liked was what I liked.
I had my own very
very specific interests and my interests
were music
which I adored
um
dinosaurs was a big thing when I was
a kid but basically encyclopedias
there was a set of world book
encyclopedias in my house which I was very lucky
to have and I taught myself
to read from those books but I would just spend all day going through these encyclopedias in my house which I was very lucky to have and I taught myself to read from those books but I would just spend all day going through these encyclopedias reading and learning about
absolutely everything under the sun passionately focused on this and also of course art but these
interests definitely set me apart from other kids made me not want to interact to have friends because
I felt like I was on a different level I couldn't like by the time I was about five I'd become
obsessed with Guns N' Roses and I couldn't go to anyone in the fucking schoolyard and speak to
them about Guns N' Roses because they didn't know who the fuck Guns N' Roses were but I always
explained this to myself as I was born into a house of adults so all my siblings were way way older than
me my youngest brother was 13 years older than me everyone was a teenager or young adult when I was
born so up until last week I used to say to myself I was a child born into a house of adults of course
I'm going to have different interests to other kids of course I'm going to be more comfortable
speaking with adults than other kids
this is probably
what my parents
said to themselves too
I know this is what
my parents would have
said to teachers
because my
from about the age of 5
my parents were
consistently being
brought down to the school
because I was so
disruptive
I used to
cursing was a big problem
I used to curse
all the time
out loud when I was a child.
This was not good in a fucking, a convent school, effectively.
One thing that used to consistently get me in trouble, as a child, like all the time, and I mean bad trouble.
I didn't understand that you had to speak to adults differently.
I would speak to adults as if I was an adult as well.
And a lot of adults found this intensely
cheeky. Now when I received my autism diagnosis my psychologist said to me that an area I have
difficulty around is recognising social hierarchies so I don't see when a person is supposed to be
important. Like if I was to walk into a job tomorrow
and you said that person's the boss,
I will walk up and speak to the boss
the same way I would one of my colleagues.
I don't understand the rules of
this person is important so you have to speak to him differently.
Now I quite like that about myself,
but that shit will get you into trouble very quickly.
One of the most traumatic instances of my fucking childhood and again this fucking autism diagnosis the thing that I'm saying about it threatening my identity it's causing me to go back through
all horrible shit that happened to me in my childhood and now I'm reappraising it from a
different lens which is overwhelming when I was about six I'm reappraising it from a different lens. Which is overwhelming. When I was about six.
I'm trying to remember this now.
I was in a playground.
And I'd become obsessed.
With learning about the universe.
I'd been reading all about the solar system and the universe in my encyclopedias.
Obsessing.
This is all I was talking about.
Didn't give a fuck about anything else.
I just wanted to talk about Pluto and Neptune and the sun and the whole shebang.
Which is something that should be rewarded.
And in fairness, in my house,
if I'm at six years of age cracking open an encyclopedia
and speaking about the solar system and learning this shit myself
I was lucky enough to have parents and siblings
to say that's a good thing, fair play to you
so I felt good about it
and then one day I went up to the playground
when I was about 6 and I was on my own
and there was a woman there
could be about the same age that I am now
and she was with her daughter
and her daughter was the age that I was then
so two 6 year olds and an adult mother.
And I went up to the both of them.
Out of nowhere.
And I just said to the daughter and to the mother.
Did you know that one day the sun is going to expand.
And the universe will end.
And this is definitely going to happen.
And I think the daughter started crying because that was
scary information then the mother started disagreeing with me going that's not true
stop talking stop talking that's not true and I probably got really pissed off because
it is true I read it in an encyclopedia the sun is going to expand and the universe is going to end now I was six
and obviously
the fact that I
first off I made the daughter cry
by speaking about
the sun expanding
I'm fucking six
I don't know the difference
I think it's amazing
and then the ma
obviously got pissed off
that I talked back to her
but she grabbed me
by the fucking hair
and beat the shit out of me
like left me unable to talk for about an hour or two afterwards of the sheer shock of an adult like
giving me an adult beating like slapping kids isn't good but she didn't slap me she fucking
beat me I can't remember the fucking woman unfortunately because if I did if I knew who the fuck that woman
was, I have an idea of where she lives
if I knew who the fuck that woman was
I would go to her now and
say do you remember when you were my age and you kicked the living
fuck out of a six year old in front of your daughter
and I only stopped blaming
myself for that in my fucking
early thirties. When you
get to the age
that the person was when they did it
you really really start to see how
wildly
unacceptable it is
like I'm like the same age as that
woman now and the idea
that I would even raise
my voice to a six year old
let alone kick the fuck out of one
it's
I really see how wrong that was now
I really really see how deeply wrong that was
that's fucking abuse
she should go to jail
that's a going to jail thing
beating the shit out of a six year old
in a playground in your thirties
is a going to jail thing
but I had to relive that moment
with my psychologist
during my autism diagnosis
because that's a moment for me that I remember.
That I really shut off.
Firstly it's.
It's an example of my autism.
Because part of the assessment is you have to.
You have to look back into your childhood and go.
Look have you felt this way recently.
Or is this your entire life.
And instances like that are.
You know being six.
And reading encyclopedias. Because you have an obsessive interest about the solar system
and then
speaking to adults like they're adults
and not understanding
the social rules of hierarchy
or understanding the appropriate way to speak to adults
to the point that
it was obviously so cheeky
I got a beating
that's the stuff that I would have brought
up in my assessment but that's the moment I began doing what's known as masking consciously
changing my behavior suppressing who I am to become normal as such so my energy shifted from
having my lovely interests that I adored my music my art all my lovely interests that I adored, my music, my art, all of these things that I adored now became dangerous and I began to hide them.
And I hid these things and I tried not to speak about them because when I spoke up about things that I was very enthusiastic about, it got me in trouble.
it got me in trouble I started to develop the opinion that
my obsessions
staying at home
reading encyclopedias, learning about
information, learning about the world
all of this shit that I loved, that I was
obsessed with, could potentially
get me
a beating from adults
so I started to shut the fuck up
and play dumb
and then I remember another fucking moment soon after that, which was important.
It was a teacher.
I can't remember her name.
We would have been seven or eight.
Whatever the fuck was being spoken about in class,
I decided I needed to go on a monologue about the Beatles
and the Beatles music and the shooting of John Lennon.
And I remember the teacher stopping the class,
because obviously we're not learning about the fucking Beatles when we're eight.
She made me go up to the top of the class and say what I'd just said
about the Beatles, about John Lennon.
I remember saying that John Lennon was shot by Mark David Chapman.
And after I said it, she said,
can everyone give a round of applause
for all of that useless information?
So the whole class had to clap
because I was talking about the Beatles
and the adult teacher had framed it
not as me being interested in the Beatles,
but as me, eight years of age now,
looking for attention.
He's looking for attention
and he's showing off
how much he knows
about the Beatles
everyone clap
and shame him
so I just made my mind up
to shut the fuck up
and obviously then
I was relentlessly
bullied in the schoolyard
because the adult teacher
just told everybody
it was okay to bully me
because the other thing
though is
children don't like
the one child
who's
going on
unsolicited monologues about the solar system
and the shooting of John Lennon
so they reject you pretty quickly
but one thing, because kids are smart
some of the other kids then
about 8 or 9 would have noticed
holy fuck
that fella doesn't give a shit what he says to
teachers, he'd walk up
to any adult and he would say
whatever the fuck comes into his mind so I used to
get kind of manipulated I suppose you'd say by other kids who would whisper into my ear and say
walk up to that nun and say this walk up to that teacher and say that leave the school gates go out
there outside the school gates and pick up a rock and throw it at that car.
And you see, I'd do it
because it felt like social acceptance.
When the kids would say to me,
go and do that mad thing,
you're the mad cunt who'll do it, you don't give a shit,
go and do that, I'd do it.
Everyone would laugh, they're laughing at me of course,
and I would perceive this as
being socially accepted
this is the closest I could
get to feeling
normal, if you get me
but then of course I'm getting threatened
with expulsion at the age of fucking 9
earlier, so by the time
I got into secondary school, my record
was terrible, I was incredibly disruptive
I was a lunatic and at 13 in first year, into secondary school, my record was terrible, I was incredibly disruptive I was a lunatic
and at 13
in first year, in secondary school
I got fucked into the worst
class in the school, this class
was the worst of the worst
people with behavioural
issues, people
with, would have had learning
difficulties, you would have
had kids from.
Incredibly traumatic environments.
All of us fucked into this class.
Not because we were receiving support.
They hadn't like identified.
Because 13 is still kids.
That's children.
So.
They hadn't identified a bunch of students. And said.
These children need fucking help
even though they're acting out they need help
they didn't, you just got
who they perceived to be the worst possible students
and put us into a classroom
and the teachers would walk in and call us
gorriers to our faces
and when the other classes were getting career guidance
we didn't get career guidance
we had the vice principal come in and tell us
why we should quit school after the junior cert that school isn't the place for us and we
shouldn't come back I told the story of that before but in that class basically I went into survival
mode because there were some hard cunts in that class and to survive in that class you were either very hard
and able to fight
and I don't mean just regular
teenage boy fighting
I mean
asserting dominance
through the spectacle of violence
so the hardest lad in the class
was the one who would
draw blood
smash someone's face
off a desk or a wall
and I'm not
judging those lads because they were 13 and they would have come from quite traumatic environments
where there could have been abuse or addiction at home. So I wasn't going to gain any approval in
any hardness competitions because I wasn't hard at all or no interest in fighting. So I learned
how to become an absolute fucking mad bastard. I gained social approval by being the worst behaved young fella in the school.
I would do literally anything. I'd be unbelievably cheeky to teachers, rolling joints at the back of
class, abusing solvents at the back of class. Not even because I wanted to abuse solvents but to
show off to everybody that I was mad enough to abuse solvents at the back of class. Pretending
I didn't give a fuck about my education,
deliberately behaving and acting stupid,
gaining the approval of my peers
and wearing the mask of normality
by behaving in the normal of that class,
which was to be disruptive.
And then I'd go home and secretly
read all my encyclopedias
and secretly have my love of music and secretly have my love of music,
and secretly have my love of art.
Being smart and having all these passions and things that I love doing,
and having no way to express them in school whatsoever.
And at that point, teachers didn't want to help me,
because they hated me.
I was the worst behaved student in the school.
I was so poorly behaved in school,
that kids in other schools knew about me.
Which at the time I thought that made me a fucking legend.
And it felt good because it felt like social acceptance.
Now I'm kind of fucking embarrassed by it.
I experienced that embarrassment recently.
When.
I was on a podcast.
About six months ago.
There was a band from Limerick called Hermitage Green.
And one of the singers, Dan Murphy, has a podcast called The Chat.
And Dan is from Limerick. He's around the same age as me.
And Dan brought me on the podcast to speak about...
To speak about fucking Limerick, to speak about the Rubber Bandits, to speak about my podcast, whatever.
And I didn't know Dan when I was a kid
because he was in a different school.
But he brought up on the podcast
that he remembers
hearing about me
and this was before the rubber bandits
or anything like that.
He remembers hearing about me in school
and saying, did you hear about that mad cunt?
Did you hear about him?
He's making bombs.
And that was the rumour that was going around about me
when I was a teenager
that I was up in school making fucking bombs. And that was the rumour that was going around about me when I was a teenager,
that I was up in school making fucking bombs.
And when Dan said this to me about six months ago,
I got awful kind of fucking embarrassed by it, going, oh Jesus Christ.
And I was thinking back, going, I wasn't making bombs.
I never tried to make a bomb.
The fuck, where the fuck did that come from?
And then I remembered, and it made me quite sad.
When I was in fifth year I think it was I'd started to develop a private obsession with chemistry and biology. Things I should have been
studying in school but I wasn't allowed into those classes because my my grades were so fucking shit
for the junior cert that I didn't really get to choose my leaving cert subjects. But I developed
an intense obsession and desire
to learn everything about chemistry and biology.
And I was doing this at home, privately, in secret,
with my own books, learning about all this shit,
and learning a lot about it.
And one of the things with my autism,
I have difficulty sometimes with conversation.
When I'm speaking to a person,
sometimes I will steer the conversation towards whatever it is I'm obsessed about at that point.
Whatever specific interest that I'm focused on and thinking about all the time,
I will steer a conversation in that direction if I'm not grounded.
As an adult, I don't anymore now.
I ground myself and I listen instead instead rather than going on a monologue
but when I was a teenager
obviously during this period
in 50er all I wanted
to talk about if anyone
asked was fucking chemistry
and biology that was it
but I was hanging around with the ball boys
and all we would do really is just
smoke joints and act the
bollocks so any speak of fucking chemistry or biology was, that was nerd talk.
You didn't do that. That was social exclusion.
So I remembered back.
I used to learn how to grow hash and how to make explosives.
Specifically from a book called The Anarchist Cookbook.
So what I was doing is within my peer group.
I would be allowed to go on big long monologues.
About bomb making.
And growing cannabis.
And the lads would listen.
Because this is bullshit.
Hold on listen now he's talking about making bombs.
Be quiet.
He's talking about cannabis.
What a mad bastard. He's going to grow up to be a big drug dealer he is. Listen
then, be quiet. And I'd just be going on big tirades about chemistry and fucking botany
and plant biology, because that's what I was interested in, but I framed it as bombs and
cannabis. Now I wasn't making bombs. I didn't give a fuck about making bombs. I wasn't growing
hash either. But when Dan said
that to me recently, that he remembered, fuck it, I remember a lad saying that you were making bombs
in school years ago. It made me fucking sad because I had the brain to be doing chemistry.
I had the brain to be doing biology, to be passionate about these things, to be excelling
academically. But because that I now realise issues related to my undiagnosed
autism, all that confusion and lack of understanding of myself and being chastised
from teachers and being told that I was bald, being told that I was disruptive, wrong, being
told that I was stupid. I even have to check myself with the language I'm using now.
I said the word tirade there about six times in this podcast
to refer to when I go on a monologue.
And a tirade, a tirade is like a big, angry, aggressive speech.
I'm using the word tirade because that's what obviously was used against me
when I was growing up.
Teachers saying, shut up with your tirade. I don what obviously was used against me when I was growing up. Teachers saying
shut up with your tirade. I don't go on tirades. I go into monologues speaking about something I
care about deeply because I love it. That's not a tirade. All of that robbed me of a fucking
education and I had squared that with myself. Over the years I'd said to myself look you were really bald in school forgive yourself and move
on now it's different I was autistic and I was acting up and that doesn't feel very fair and I
am happy now being an artist like I love what I do now but I do believe if I'd have had the access
to something like studying science something to do with science in college I could
have brought my creativity and my capacity to think laterally to that and done something
completely differently with my life now maybe I would have hated it and ended up back at art
but the point is the opportunity was taken from me that's what I don't like and that's what I'm
having to reappraise right now so So that was my experience in school.
Which I now realise was the experience of an autistic person.
And that feels kind of unfair.
I have to open up an ugly chapter again.
And look at it from a different lens.
Which is tough going.
And I had a lot of sensory issues.
In school.
Like I wouldn't wear my uniform.
And the reason I wouldn't wear my uniform and the reason I wouldn't wear my uniform was
because of how it felt on my body. It would feel itchy. Now I'm sure other people's uniforms felt
itchy as well but when my uniform felt itchy I couldn't think about anything else so I stopped
wearing it. I'd wear tracksuits, I'd wear things that were comfortable. If I told the teachers it
feels uncomfortable they'd just say fuck off and go home and don't come back until you've got your uniform back on. Oversensitivity
to fabrics is part of my autism. So that experience there being in school that's not very pleasant.
That's not a very pleasant school experience. I did have tons of crack. I had loads of crack
with all the messing and making people laugh that was enjoyable but it also would have been quite
nice to have been given the opportunity
to be as academic as I know I could have been,
and then had more options for careers.
But even then, with that school experience,
the problem wasn't necessarily me.
The problem was that the entire school system
is designed for neurotypical people,
which is the majority of the population.
It's not designed for people who have different needs.
I'm assuming things are better now.
I'll be honest, I don't know.
I found out I was autistic this weekend.
There's a lot of learning I have to do.
If a doctor came to me tomorrow and said,
here's a pill, if you take this pill, you won't be autistic anymore.
Would I take it?
No, absolutely not.
I love my brain. I love no absolutely not i love my brain i love
the thing i love my personality i love the way that i think about things i love the fact that
i'm rarely bored so long as i have the tools to keep my mental health in check which means that
i'm not drifting towards anxiety, depression,
social anxiety isn't coming back, then I love life and I wouldn't change a thing about me.
And the specific diagnosis I was given is autism spectrum disorder. It would have been called Asperger's about 10 years ago. I would have been diagnosed with Asperger's, but that's not
a diagnosis anymore. So now it's called autism spectrum disorder and I don't even like the fact that it's called disorder
because I don't feel I really don't feel it as a disorder I feel it as when the environment
doesn't suit me then it becomes a fucking disorder but the problem isn't with me
now that's where I want to be very clear that I'm speaking about my experience because there could be other autistic people and they
do experience it as a disorder and they have much different difficulties or much harder experience
at living than I do so I'm not speaking for anyone else but I'm just saying for me I don't experience
it as a disorder when I got out of school and I had to experience the the intense shame of failing my leave insert and I was thrust
into adulthood and I was expected to all of a sudden be able to function as an adult confronted
with the fear of you're no longer in the routine of school now you must get a job now you must pay bills you must pay taxes then it was
a fucking disorder because i got extreme social anxiety to the point that it developed into
agoraphobia and i couldn't function at all and i was utterly helpless but thankfully i went to a
psychotherapist when i was 19 or 20 and it became free because I was in art college.
And this therapist.
Therapist didn't know I was autistic.
Didn't flag that I was autistic.
The therapist was just.
Oh you're someone with pretty bad anxiety.
Let's work on that with some CBT.
And I did.
And it helped.
And step by step.
My self esteem improved.
Things that I was terrified of. Such as.
Preparing my own food
making dinner for myself
dressing myself
going to a pub
being comfortable in situations
where there's a large group of people
I did it gradually using CBT
and each time I did it
I would prove to myself
that I was capable of doing it
and I became a healthy
functioning person
and then I loved that so much
that I decided
I fucking adore psychology now
I think I want to train to be a psychotherapist
so I did when I was a mature student
and I became obsessed with psychology
and I became obsessed with CBT
and transaction analysis
and mindfulness
and attachment theory
and every single
possible psychological theory
to do with the human mind that I could find
and I lapped it up and I adored it.
And what this did is it allowed my neurodivergent brain
to almost read the manual of what people are.
I could read about why people get anxiety,
why are some people angry,
why people get anxiety, why are some people angry, how things from people's childhood can influence their personality and how they are as an adult. I could read about what is the anger of emotion,
what is the anger of fear, what is the anger of envy and I had it all down now on paper
to pour over and understand and obsess and that gave me the tools and confidence to not be afraid, to not feel helpless.
If I'd become fearful about what clothes should I wear when I'm going out?
What if I go to the hairdressers and the hairdresser only wants to talk about soccer,
but I don't know anything about soccer and then I'm forced to talk to him about soccer?
What if that happens?
And I would use mindfulness and CBT around these things and I'd say, well, what's the worst that
can happen? You might have to sit for a half an hour and listen to somebody speak to you about
soccer and you're going to have to pretend you're interested. And you know what? It's not going to
be pleasant, but it'll be grand. What if I go to a party and someone starts speaking to me and then
I get nervous about my eye contact?
Or I want to start spinning on the spot when they're talking?
Or I want to go on a monologue?
And I just say to myself, if you want to do it, do it.
But sometimes when you do it, that can result in social rejection.
So I learned how to listen to people.
I learned how to read people's emotions. I learned through mindfulness meditation and emotional intelligence
how to correctly label my own emotions.
How to know when what I'm feeling is anger
or what I'm feeling is sadness or what I'm feeling is fear.
How to understand, know and sit with these feelings.
And by understanding those in myself that made me
better at empathy with other people and then social interaction because social interaction now
it's not my comfort zone but I can do it I don't avoid it I just don't do loads of it
and that's grand and something my psychologist said to me when I was
getting my assessment was that I've been living with autism my whole life but when I started to
go on my mental health journey in my early 20s I had kind of figured out in my own way the right
type of self-therapy that genuinely helped my individual experience of autism.
And for me, that was cognitive behavioral therapy, which works wonderfully for me
because it's so logical. Transactional analysis, because that explores in detail the nuances of
human conversation. Emotional intelligence, because that helps me to label my emotions
and the emotions of other people
and then mindfulness
and mindfulness meditation
so that I can calmly
bring all of these things into my
present awareness and apply them
in difficult
situations and then on top
of all that
exercise, exercise is fucking essential to me
going to the gym running regularly these things are very very important to get me to live inside
and feel my body and be present and my goal with how i navigate my artistic experience is
what i'm trying to avoid is executive dysfunction.
I didn't know that that's what I was doing all along.
I've spoken about it on this podcast three, four years ago,
but I wasn't calling it executive dysfunction.
When my mental health is bad,
I start to experience a feeling of helplessness.
And when I start to feel helpless and incapable
then I start to not answer emails and then problems start to build up because I'm not
answering emails and then I forget to pay a bill and basically what happens is the regular
functional things that I need to exist in society. Answering emails, doing my job, paying my bills, going to
bed on time. Once these things spiral and roll into a ball, that's when I experience the executive
dysfunction and I feel helpless and I'm not very good at helping myself. This happened over COVID
in 2021 on COVID lockdown. I got into a pretty bad state of helplessness. It started because I let my
studio get so untidy that I
couldn't walk around in there. So that's when I got my office. Now I have my new office.
I'm not, my senses aren't overloaded when I'm in there. It's a lovely clean space.
I go there every day with a sense of routine. That office is where I go to work and work only.
And as soon as I did that, I'm able to answer emails again, I'm able to plan, I'm able to feel
a sense of ambition, I wake up feeling positive, I enjoy being alive just by changing my environment.
I now know that that's autistic behaviour and that's quite helpful because I've been experiencing
executive dysfunction throughout my life and a year ago or two years ago, if I'd got myself into a situation where
my studio is so untidy I can't walk around, I'm not answering emails, I'm not texting back,
I'm not taking responsibility for my life.
If I did that a year or two ago, I would have just called myself a lazy useless cunt over and over in
my head you useless lazy stupid bollocks every hurtful harmful thing that was said to me that
was said to hold me back when I was a little child in school would now return to my head as an adult
within my internal dialogue to myself and sure what's that doing only completely spiralling the situation
more and more until I'm helpless
so now I'm not doing that anymore
because I'm not a lazy
stupid bollocks
I'm autistic
and this is an area where I have difficulty
I mean I'm also asthmatic
when I'm doing my
10km run
the odd time at around 8km I might get
a little bit out of breath and I reach into my pocket and I take my inhaler. I don't call
myself a weak bastard with shitty lungs. When I do that I just go, ah yeah I'm asthmatic.
My lungs struggle a little bit more than people who aren't asthmatic. I don't shame myself.
My lungs struggle a little bit more than people who aren't asthmatic.
I don't shame myself.
So I won't be shaming myself or chastising myself.
For behaviours which are.
As a result of autism.
And.
I'm going to start seeing a therapist again.
Because I haven't seen a therapist in a long time.
But I'm going to start seeing a therapist. Who specialises in people who are neurodiverse.
So that I can update my mental health toolbox. Effectively. gonna be i'm gonna start being a little bit more proud of the
things i've achieved in my fucking career i've made a lot of tv shows i've written fucking best
selling books i had a successful music career i've done a bunch of shit in all different disciplines
and i've done this while being autistic and I'm proud of
myself for doing that because the messaging and signals I got all the way through school is that
I wouldn't be anything that I was defective and stupid and useless and the message I got from my
peers through bullying was that I was weird eccentric and mad and one thing I'm definitely going to be doing is, like, I adore writing.
I love writing so much.
My favourite part of my career is writing books.
I love my two collections of short stories that I have.
I really adored writing them.
And I'm proud of them as pieces of work.
And sometimes I get very upset
when they get unfairly reviewed.
Now, I don't mean if someone says they don't like it or someone says,
oh, I thought these were bad books, I don't enjoy them, they're not well written.
That's fine, that's critique.
But there's some reviews who just say, oh, his work is weird.
He's trying too hard to be surreal, to be weird. He's trying too hard to be surreal to be weird
he's trying too hard to be strange
what does this book say about the human condition
and that's very frustrating
and it feels unfair because
and this is something I knew in my heart
but now I have language for it
I don't write from a neurotypical perspective
I write from the perspective of neurodiversity.
That's why my books appear mad.
Because I'm exploring and playing with the rules of rationality in society that I struggle with.
The rules of what is acceptable, what is normal behaviour, what is appropriate, what is mad and what is not mad,
these are all things I navigate and think about and have had to think about my whole life.
So when I write a book and it's fucking bonkers and it's surreal, that's me having fun with that struggle that's me enjoying
playing with
and experimenting
with the rules of the neurotypical world
as a means of personal catharsis
and that's why I love doing it so much
and that's why it feels so amazing
and so therapeutic
when I write and I end up reading these reviews and
then beating myself up and thinking I'm doing something wrong with my writing and then I go off
reading a lot of fucking Sally Rooney now I enjoy Sally Rooney's work but as I've said with Sally
Rooney's work before while I enjoy reading Sally Rooney Sally Rooney doesn't make me want to write. Or not even Sally Rooney.
Whatever literature at the moment is getting good reviews, I'll go off and I'll read it.
And a lot of it to me just seems incredibly what we call neurotypical.
I'm reading these books and it's about human relationships and it's about human conversation.
And I'm right back at where I was in school trying
to understand those rules and I'm never going to write like that and when I try to write like that
when I try to write a story which feels neurotypical we'll say it feels terrible it feels
like trying to have a conversation with my barber about Aston Villa so instead I read writers that feel neurodiverse and I don't know if they are neurodiverse
but I read writers that they the words that they create feel like how I
experienced the world James Joyce Virginia Wool, a writer called Ted Chiang, Patricia Lockwood, Flann O'Brien, George Louis Borges, Mariana Enriquez.
These writers, I can speak their language when I read their work.
I can translate it, I understand it.
It relates to my experience of the world.
So I want to write like that. I don't want to write
very solemn stories
about human relationships.
I want to write about
someone who gets addicted to wearing tweed
and then the tweed fabric that they wear is so itchy
and abrasive
that when they walk
they accidentally rip the fabric a time
and they turn into a half
an hour that's what i want to write and that's what i did write that's a story in my last book
and i now realize that does say something about the human condition it says something about my
fucking human condition i'm undiagnosed autistic writing that you know and I remember
my time in school with the fucking itchy school jumper
and the school jumper being so
fucking itchy
that I was being sent home
and then I can't read the clock
and I can't read the numbers on the clock
and then I'm writing stories about someone who's addicted
to wearing an itchy jumper
and the itchiness of that rips the fabric of time
and they turn into a half an hour
I love the madness of that
I thoroughly enjoy writing like that
I'm processing
trauma when I write like that
and I know from a neurotypical perspective
it sounds utterly fucking mad
and it is utterly mad
but it's me having fun with that madness
or even a rubber bandit song from 10 years ago called Spastic Hawk.
Which is a song, again, I love and is close to my heart.
Because when I made it, I felt that deep catharsis.
I felt that when I was writing that song, pain was leaving my body via creativity.
Which is one of the most wonderful feelings in the world.
And I knew Spastic Hawk was about me being bullied
and being called a spastic
when I was a child because
in Limerick the word spastic
was used to police normality
if you were odd or weird
or strange you were called a spastic
so Spastic Hawk is about that but now
looking back at Spastic Hawk
yes
it's about me being bullied but it's about me being bullied,
but it's about me being bullied for being autistic.
And it's clear as day now.
And I love that my unconscious mind
had answers that my conscious mind wasn't aware of.
I suppose I'm talking about that because
one of the most heartbreaking things of the past year
when I got the issue with the executive functioning
is I got writer's block.
I couldn't write.
I'm writing a new book at the moment.
I spent a year not writing, lads.
And when I can't write, that breaks my fucking heart.
I'm very, very upset when I can't sit down at a page and go into my mind and explore and create.
That creates mental health difficulties for me.
and create that creates mental health difficulties for me so one of the reasons I got writer's block is I took a lot of bad reviews on board and that's not the fault of the reviewer I'm not
blaming the reviewer but when my books got reviewed badly because they were so personal to me
it brought me back to being criticized in school it brought me back to that playground
getting beaten up by that woman
and that's not on the reviewer, that's my shit
I have to take responsibility of that
but
getting diagnosed with autism has helped me
process through that and has made me
feel very excited
about my next book if you get me
I'm going to be writing my next book
from an unapologetically
neurodiverse
position
and then the final thing I do want to talk about is my plastic bag
I wear a plastic bag on my head
and I have worn a plastic bag on my head
for the entirety of my career
now at first with the rubber bandits
it was you know kind of
trying to stay anonymous even though I'm not anonymous
hiding our identities
it was a character thing
it was funny to have a plastic bag on my head
but then as I got more serious in my career
and I started speaking about mental health
writing and doing this podcast
and not doing the rubber bandits anymore
I was still wearing the plastic bag
and I used to say to people.
I wear this plastic bag because.
I've got social anxiety.
An unfortunate consequence of my job is.
If you write books.
Or you go on TV.
Or you make podcasts.
That also gets you a certain degree of notoriety.
And quite a lot of attention.
And it's attention that I definitely don't want
I don't care about being famous
what I care about is
having the opportunity to create
and make work that I love
and put it out
that's what I care about
I don't like the bit where
you're well known
so I wear the plastic bag
to protect myself from that
now I realise
and my psychologist agrees
that's 100 autistic
it's it's literal autistic masking i wouldn't be able to do this job if it meant the amount
of small talk that i'd have to engage in on a daily basis like i'm not that well known i'm not
that fucking famous i'd be most households in Ireland would have an idea of
oh that fella with the plastic bag on his head but I've enough notoriety that
I couldn't go to Dunn's or go to Aldi without at least one person stopping me and having a
conversation and that to me is not pleasant because of my autism if you said to me you have to go to duns
and you have to get your dinner and you have to prepare yourself for that and you have to plan
what you're going to get and you're going to be mindful when you go to duns but however possibly
four people four strangers might stop you and try to have a conversation with you I wouldn't be able
to do it.
I'd have to quit the job.
That would be too stressful for me.
So my plastic bag protects me from that.
I get to be blind by and do my podcast and go on stage and write my books and do all this shit.
And then when I don't want to be blind by, I'm not.
I'm just fucking nobody.
I'm just a boring man buying his carrots.
Living a very, very quiet life that's as boring as humanly possible
and all I want to do
is run
go to the gym
make my dinner
and work
and that's it
and stay in contact
with close family members
and then
meet my friends
twice a year for pints
and that's it
and that life
keeps my
keeps the mental health
issues that could arise as a result of my autism in check and the plastic bag ensures that it
protects it it's a it's an armor it's a weapon because i tell you what lads that fucking plastic
bag that does not help my career in any way it might have done 15 fucking years ago with the
rubber bandits when you're trying to get attention.
But now I'm in my 30s.
I'm not really even doing comedy anymore.
I'm doing podcasts about serious things.
Trying to write serious literature.
This does not help my career.
Every single fucking TV.
There's documentaries.
I've lost so many fucking jobs because of this plastic bag
I've had TV opportunities land on my
fucking lap and going
we'd love for you to present this, how would you like
to do a documentary series on this
and then they go, we just can't
have some cunt with a plastic bag presenting
this is a really serious documentary
you can't be doing this with a plastic bag
in your head, and they don't understand when I won't
take it off, they just can't get their heads around it.
Even to the point where they suggest,
would you wear a more formal mask instead?
And now I've got a better answer for them.
I'm fucking autistic.
And this is a unique, neurodiverse solution
that I've come up with
that allows me to be both famous and not famous
at the same time.
And it's environmentally friendly
because i'm getting single-use plastic bags and repurposing them into masks to help my
autistic self navigate a hostile environment i'm gonna wrap i think i'll wrap it up now
that was the rambliest podcast i've ever done i I don't think I've done anything as rambly as that.
But I really did need to do it.
And I needed to speak about that stuff.
To process it for myself.
And also to share it with any of ye.
Who might be neurodiverse.
Or autistic or whatever.
But one thing I will say is.
For the second part of my life.
For my adult life.
Since about 23 onwards.
Since I started to develop my mental health tools.
I've been genuinely thriving as an autistic person achieving goals being happy
really enjoying my life the slight limitations such as not being hugely
social I mean that doesn't matter when it's not something I really want.
All I can do is measure my life
in terms of how happy I feel
on a day-to-day basis.
And for 90% of the past
decade or whatever,
I've been fucking very happy.
Very, very happy.
About a 7 out of 10.
And any times I was unhappy,
there was a reason for it.
Such as lockdown, it's ok
to be unhappy about lockdown, that was shit
but I also want to point out
the reason I was happy
and the reason I was thriving
with my autism
is because
I without knowing it had managed
to create an environment that suits me
I'm self implied
I have a job
and this job that I have
and this is the most beautiful thing in my life
this job that I have right now
my job is to pursue
the things that I'm passionate about and interested about
whatever my obsession is
on a weekly basis
that's my fucking hot take
the way that I earn a living
is also the way I want to operate.
The way that keeps me mentally healthy and happy.
And if I.
Hadn't put the work in to get that.
And if I hadn't had a few instances of luck.
In order to get that.
And I was someone instead.
The same person.
Who was now stuck in a job that didn't suit me.
In a job whereby...
Where it'd be like fucking school.
Where I have to focus every day on fitting in.
Where I have to try and understand the politics of an office.
Where I'm met every day with consistent barriers to my autism.
Then I'd be a very different person.
And I mightn't even be here
the autism there isn't the issue
it would be the environment that doesn't suit the autism that's the issue
and the driving force for me
like I said I'm not driven by success
I'm driven by never ever ever
being in a situation where I have to
work in a job.
That I might genuinely suffer in.
Lots of people can have jobs that they don't like.
That aren't pleasant.
But they have a capacity to cope with it.
And switch off.
And go home.
And enjoy what it is they enjoy.
With my autism.
I wouldn't be able to do that. so I'm thankful for that every single fucking day
very thankful
and I want to highlight it because
if you're not
autistic and you're coming away from this podcast
going blind boy said he had
autism and he's getting on grand
like
that's me, that's my experience
that's a number of situations coupled with luck
and my unique experience of autism i happen to be doing well but that's not the same for other
people other adults who have autism who are not so please don't come away listening to my experience
thinking oh that's grand and like I said because I've only just
learned this I don't have a fucking clue what I'm talking about really I know how to speak about my
experience and my experience only and that's it all right dog bless thank you very much for
listening to that that was almost 90 minutes um I'm gonna be back next week with a hot take
and we'll be back to normal also it's i think it's autism awareness month
so it's pretty nice to find this out on autism awareness month
you rock city you're the best fans in the league bar none tickets are on sale now for fan appreciation
night on saturday april 13th when the toronto rock hosts the rochester nighthawks at first
ontario center in hamilton at 7 30 p.m you can also lock in your playoff pack right now to
guarantee the same seats for every postseason game,
and you'll only pay as we play.
Come along for the ride and punch your ticket to Rock City at torontorock.com.