The Blindboy Podcast - Lung Cousins
Episode Date: December 29, 2021A rambling podcast designed for a Post Christmas pre New Years walk. I speak about pissing in a milk bottle for several years and the role of silliness in art. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy f...or more information.
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                                         Chone down your tubas, you boulevard owners.
                                         
                                         Welcome to the Blind Boy Podcast.
                                         
                                         I wasn't going to do a podcast this week.
                                         
                                         Well, I was.
                                         
                                         I've never missed a week.
                                         
                                         I haven't missed a week
                                         
                                         in the four years of making this podcast.
                                         
                                         Even though
                                         
    
                                         every year around Christmas I always say
                                         
                                         maybe I'll take a week off.
                                         
                                         Maybe I'll take a week off.
                                         
                                         But it doesn't sit right it's bad practice
                                         
                                         I need to save one day I need to take a week off and that will only happen when there's an
                                         
                                         emergency when there's when when something urgent happens whereby I literally can't put out a podcast then I won't here's why I decided to put out a podcast this week
                                         
                                         so the reason I was thinking of not doing it is
                                         
                                         because like three days ago it was Christmas
                                         
    
                                         so obviously I
                                         
                                         I didn't work at all over the Christmas period
                                         
                                         from like the 22nd of December
                                         
                                         to today I did fucking nothing i ate mince pies i drank beer
                                         
                                         in the mornings because you're allowed to do that at christmas i ate food and i filled my eyeballs
                                         
                                         full of shit from the television i switched my brain off and I just engaged in
                                         
                                         festive gluttony like a type of pop culture hippopotamus so I've no research done for this
                                         
                                         week's podcast I've zero preparation but the reason I decided to put the podcast out was it's the 29th of December
                                         
    
                                         and ye really need
                                         
                                         ye really need this podcast right now
                                         
                                         because
                                         
                                         the 27th of December
                                         
                                         the 28th of December
                                         
                                         the 29th of December
                                         
                                         and the 30th of December
                                         
                                         are that period of limbo
                                         
    
                                         where it's not New Year's Eve
                                         
                                         it's not Christmas
                                         
                                         time means nothing
                                         
                                         you don't know which shops are open
                                         
                                         which shops aren't open
                                         
                                         you're not at work
                                         
                                         the only reason you know it's Wednesday
                                         
                                         is because this podcast is out now
                                         
    
                                         and I figured a lot of you would just be walking today
                                         
                                         you can't indulge in the senses
                                         
                                         you've indulged in the senses on Christmas day and a little bit of Saint Stephen's day
                                         
                                         and you're getting ready to indulge in the senses on New Year's Eve so now we're in sensual limbo
                                         
                                         where all you can really do is go on walks so i'm putting this podcast out because i
                                         
                                         figured a lot of you are going to be on a walk and need a bit of a bit of company i'm going to
                                         
                                         do a question answering podcast i'm going to do a nice relaxing question answering podcast
                                         
                                         where i've done no research I've done no preparation
                                         
    
                                         we just answer some questions
                                         
                                         and see what happens
                                         
                                         I don't know if this is going to take
                                         
                                         an hour or whatever
                                         
                                         we'll see how it goes
                                         
                                         so I went on to Instagram
                                         
                                         earlier on today
                                         
                                         at blind by boat club
                                         
    
                                         went on to Instagram and I said have you any questions
                                         
                                         so I got thousands of questions because everyone's at home looking you any questions so I got thousands of questions because everyone's
                                         
                                         at home looking at their fucking phones I got thousands
                                         
                                         of questions and I picked
                                         
                                         the ones that I liked
                                         
                                         so the first one I'm going to answer
                                         
                                         is Lewis asked
                                         
                                         me what's the most random
                                         
    
                                         story that you swear
                                         
                                         is true but no one believes you
                                         
                                         before
                                         
                                         I even answer that I bet you lewis i'm gonna guess
                                         
                                         that lewis is in his mid-30s because i haven't heard the word fucking random in a long time
                                         
                                         do you remember man fucking 2006 was peak random whatever the fuck was going on with 2006.
                                         
                                         I used to get pissed off about it on Bebo at the time.
                                         
                                         Just before the recession.
                                         
    
                                         Hide of the Celtic Tiger, 2005-2006.
                                         
                                         Everything was random. Everything.
                                         
                                         I met someone out last night. they were so random, the fuck
                                         
                                         do you mean they were random, oh did you, did you see that film, it's so random, total
                                         
                                         randomness, lol, total randomness, and everything was random, random, random, I remember getting into my head that like 2006 there was a huge economic bubble.
                                         
                                         We called it the Celtic Tiger in Ireland.
                                         
                                         There was a lot of money and Irish people had never had money before.
                                         
                                         And it was just a very excessive time.
                                         
    
                                         Like I remember there was a block of flats, this student accommodation, right, in Limerick.
                                         
                                         There was a block of flats, this student accommodation, right, in Limerick.
                                         
                                         And the landlord who owned the block of flats used to arrive in a helicopter every week to, like, collect all the rent in a suitcase.
                                         
                                         A fucking, a man landing his helicopter in Limerick to collect the rent on this student accommodation nightclubs there was nightclubs in limerick
                                         
                                         and they just booked like dead mouse on a thursday night and fly him in on a fucking private jet
                                         
                                         and you'd go to a nightclub in limerick on a thursday night and they have like fire dancers
                                         
                                         and chocolate fountains and i spoke about this before, but people used to drink a drink called Goldschlager,
                                         
                                         which was a cinnamon spirit that had flakes of gold in it.
                                         
    
                                         And people thought that if you drank it,
                                         
                                         the gold would slit your throat
                                         
                                         and alcohol would absorb into your body quicker.
                                         
                                         So 2006 was an extreme time
                                         
                                         when it came to opulence and wealth.
                                         
                                         And we didn't think it was ever going to
                                         
                                         end two years before the the great crash of 2008 and everyone was talking random random random
                                         
                                         this person is so random randomness and i always thought that the the the opulence and frivolity and excesses
                                         
    
                                         of the culture
                                         
                                         and our lifestyles
                                         
                                         had found its way
                                         
                                         into our language
                                         
                                         to the point that
                                         
                                         now everything is
                                         
                                         fucking random
                                         
                                         even
                                         
    
                                         there was sweets
                                         
                                         called fucking randoms
                                         
                                         I used to get upset
                                         
                                         about this
                                         
                                         I had terrible
                                         
                                         mental illness at the time
                                         
                                         but I used to get
                                         
                                         very upset
                                         
    
                                         about round's randoms
                                         
                                         because it was just
                                         
                                         what is it?
                                         
                                         it's a bag of sweets
                                         
                                         and why are they called randoms?
                                         
                                         because when you open it up
                                         
                                         there's like
                                         
                                         there's a shoe
                                         
    
                                         and there's a frog
                                         
                                         and there's a bicycle
                                         
                                         they're just random
                                         
                                         pure randomness
                                         
                                         for randomers
                                         
                                         and it used to make me really upset so lewis's question
                                         
                                         what's the most random story that you swear is true but no one believes you i'm just going to
                                         
                                         guess that lewis there uh lived through the chaos of 2006 and still uses the term random
                                         
    
                                         as a vestigial term i'm surprised it hasn't been brought back. Ironically actually.
                                         
                                         Because people used to say lol as well.
                                         
                                         LOL.
                                         
                                         Because I remember when LOL started.
                                         
                                         This is pure old man shit now.
                                         
                                         LOL started.
                                         
                                         Because when you used to text each other back then.
                                         
                                         Before the fucking internet.
                                         
    
                                         When you used to text each other.
                                         
                                         You used to have to text in the least amount of characters possible to save money.
                                         
                                         So you'd say LOL.
                                         
                                         But LOL now is used online, ironically,
                                         
                                         but no one's brought back random.
                                         
                                         So, Lewis asks,
                                         
                                         What's the most random story that you swear is true but no one believes you?
                                         
                                         Whew. So this thing happened to me right and i i i don't know if i've mentioned it before
                                         
    
                                         it's it's one i've just stopped like telling people
                                         
                                         because it's just it's fucking mad and it's disgusting
                                         
                                         so would this have been 2006 no this would have been maybe 2009 pure recession
                                         
                                         shit so I was living in rented accommodation right renting a house renting like one room
                                         
                                         in a house with other people. No one had any money.
                                         
                                         And this was an old house.
                                         
                                         And it was fucking freezing cold.
                                         
                                         So I'm living in this.
                                         
    
                                         This bedroom.
                                         
                                         In this house.
                                         
                                         And the house is freezing.
                                         
                                         There was no heating.
                                         
                                         Because no one had any money for heating.
                                         
                                         You just simply were like.
                                         
                                         We're not.
                                         
                                         Paying for oil.
                                         
    
                                         In the tank out the back garden.
                                         
                                         Fucking forget about it. That's one bill we don't have to worry about if you're cold use your head make yourself warm so when you
                                         
                                         live in in in a place like that when it comes to night time and you go to bed you do what you can
                                         
                                         to keep your room warm usually you can't keep the room warm so what
                                         
                                         I used to do was double socks right or do you know those big fucking winter socks they're fantastic
                                         
                                         so you wear your big winter socks you have a nice big dressing gown over your clothes that you wear
                                         
                                         indoors and then a hot water bottle inside in a pillowcase inside
                                         
                                         your dressing gown and if you can do that you can create localized heat and it doesn't matter how
                                         
    
                                         cold the house is you can stay warm and then of course a nice big cup of tea to keep your hands
                                         
                                         warm so this is what i was doing in this freezing cold house now the other thing
                                         
                                         when you're staying in a house that's freezing
                                         
                                         when you get up in the middle of the night
                                         
                                         and you need to take a piss
                                         
                                         it creates a dilemma
                                         
                                         so this particular house where I was
                                         
                                         as soon as I left my room
                                         
    
                                         it was half as cold
                                         
                                         in the fucking or sorry twice as cold in the hallway
                                         
                                         and then when I went upstairs to the bathroom the window in the bathroom was it wasn't smashed but
                                         
                                         it had like a hole in it so the bathroom was full on it was like being outside fucking freezing
                                         
                                         there was no light bulb in the bathroom either not a
                                         
                                         light bulb there was no light fixture so the bathroom at night time was 100 pitch dark and
                                         
                                         utterly freezing so if i needed to do a piss in the middle of the night i'm simply not going outside my room not happening because to do so would mean waking up
                                         
                                         like properly waking up
                                         
    
                                         now when you wake up in the middle of the night to do a piss
                                         
                                         part of the game of doing that is
                                         
                                         the zombie piss I like to call it
                                         
                                         so now I'm in my 30s and I live in a house that's warm
                                         
                                         and I don't have to worry about freezing,
                                         
                                         the freezing cold being a factor if I need to go for a piss in the middle of the night.
                                         
                                         So now what I do in my house that's warm is I walk.
                                         
                                         You figure out a way to walk to the bathroom in the dark, right?
                                         
    
                                         So you have the path kind of laid out
                                         
                                         you don't want to be woken up by any light
                                         
                                         also this is when men go for the sit down piss
                                         
                                         if you're doing a zombie piss
                                         
                                         at night time
                                         
                                         and you're trying to walk through the dark
                                         
                                         you must sit down and do your piss
                                         
                                         if you do the stand up piss
                                         
    
                                         then you piss everywhere
                                         
                                         and you risk waking yourself up
                                         
                                         so you walk to the toilet in the
                                         
                                         warmth sit down do your piss get back to bed and you can drift back into sleep without disturbing
                                         
                                         yourself but back in this gaff that wasn't possible it would have been too cold I'd have
                                         
                                         left the room and I'd have woken myself up so I had to be creative. So what I started doing back in this cold house was I'd be in bed.
                                         
                                         Now, I've got all this heat inside the bed because I'm sleeping in it.
                                         
                                         And I don't really want to lose it.
                                         
    
                                         You have to keep that heat.
                                         
                                         I've worked on making it all night.
                                         
                                         So I had a three liter milk bottle beside my bed.
                                         
                                         And I'd perfected a means of pitch pitch dark I wake up I need a piss
                                         
                                         I lift the covers of my bed just enough but not so much that I let the heat out
                                         
                                         hang my mickey out of the bed like an airplane fueling another airplane mid-air and then piss into the three liter milk bottle
                                         
                                         there'd be no spillage it'd be perfect i'd insert myself directly into the spout of the three liter
                                         
                                         milk bottle had a nice wide mouth on it and i'd effortlessly do a piss into this three liter milk bottle no fear of overflow because it's three
                                         
    
                                         liters and then i put the cap back on and then go back to sleep no heat lost not waking myself up
                                         
                                         and this is what i used to have to do in this freezing cold place that i was living in
                                         
                                         uh about 10 years ago now the thing was i wasn't necessarily replacing the milk bottle
                                         
                                         the next morning i'd get up and i'd pour the piss from the milk bottle into the toilet put the cap
                                         
                                         back on and put it back beside my bed so i was reusing this milk bottle to piss into it over
                                         
                                         and over again for months now why was i doing that i't know. I think I was kind of proud of it or something.
                                         
                                         Or.
                                         
                                         Because the milk bottle.
                                         
    
                                         Because it was a creative solution.
                                         
                                         Number one.
                                         
                                         Because it was cheap.
                                         
                                         And because it genuinely.
                                         
                                         This milk bottle was a lifesaver.
                                         
                                         It was not only keeping me warm.
                                         
                                         But it wasn't waking me up up in the middle of the night.
                                         
                                         It had become like a fucking friend.
                                         
    
                                         So I didn't want to like replace it and just get a new milk bottle.
                                         
                                         I was quite happy with this same milk bottle.
                                         
                                         And the parasocial feelings of camaraderie that I had projected on this milk bottle
                                         
                                         obviously overrided how disgusting the act actually was that i was
                                         
                                         consistently pissing into this milk bottle and not replacing it the cap was on it it didn't smell
                                         
                                         like piss it was just a thing i was doing at the time and it worked for me now lewis's question was
                                         
                                         what what's the most what is this what was the most
                                         
                                         random what's the most random story that you swear is true but no one believes you
                                         
    
                                         so this is this is it because i usually lose people at this point because they're just like
                                         
                                         what the fuck you're doing pissing into a milk bottle repeatedly and not replacing the milk
                                         
                                         bottle at least so after a while of like just developing this narrative
                                         
                                         around this milk bottle where it just feels like a friend or a character in my room where i'm just
                                         
                                         like no i can't throw it out i can't throw it out can't do that we've been we've been through so
                                         
                                         much together this milk bottle has helped me on so many cold nights i simply can't throw it out
                                         
                                         so i developed this irrational narrative
                                         
                                         around the milk bottle
                                         
    
                                         until one day I said
                                         
                                         maybe at least I can try and clean it
                                         
                                         now this is disgusting
                                         
                                         at the base of
                                         
                                         so each day I'm pissing into it
                                         
                                         and then throwing it into the toilet
                                         
                                         it had obviously a residue
                                         
                                         I'd collected around the bottom of the milk
                                         
    
                                         bottle from months and months
                                         
                                         of piss, a calcified
                                         
                                         residue
                                         
                                         alright
                                         
                                         and I went fuck it I better rinse that out
                                         
                                         so then I was like okay
                                         
                                         what's the best thing to do here, bleach
                                         
                                         bleach that's what you do, bleach
                                         
    
                                         cleans toilets so bleach is going
                                         
                                         to clean out my calcified piss milk bottle what i should have done is thrown out the milk bottle
                                         
                                         but i wasn't doing it because i developed an irrational parasocial relationship with the
                                         
                                         milk bottle where deep in my unconscious mind i thought it was a friend so i decide i'm going
                                         
                                         to clean the milk bottle so i open it up and I go over with some bleach
                                         
                                         and some water
                                         
                                         and I begin to pour the bleach
                                         
                                         into the empty milk bottle
                                         
    
                                         to try and tackle the
                                         
                                         the calcified piss residue at the bottom
                                         
                                         and as I'm fucking doing it
                                         
                                         this like
                                         
                                         weird
                                         
                                         greenish yellowish smoke starts coming out the top of the milk bottle
                                         
                                         and then i start choking like absolutely cannot like couldn't catch my breath choking the most
                                         
                                         disgusting taste and smell i dropped it on the ground got out of the fucking room and was like what the
                                         
    
                                         fuck was that ran back in with a jumper over my face and opened the windows
                                         
                                         and what what had actually happened was so the months and months of human urine and the bottom
                                         
                                         of the milk bottle had formed like ammonia i believe it was right there's ammonia present in piss it had formed
                                         
                                         ammonia and when i put the bleach on top of the ammonia now i ended up reading this afterwards
                                         
                                         i'd accidentally created a crude world war one poison gas so if you look it up ammonia and and bleach when you mix them together
                                         
                                         creates a gas called chloramine which is a deadly gas it can kill you and it will result in skin
                                         
                                         irritation eye irritation lung irritation so i'd actually i'd accidentally created a tiny amount of
                                         
                                         world war I poison gas
                                         
    
                                         from a milk bottle full of piss by trying to clean it with bleach
                                         
                                         and nearly choked myself in my bedroom.
                                         
                                         And I remember thinking,
                                         
                                         what a way to fucking die.
                                         
                                         What a way to die.
                                         
                                         I don't think...
                                         
                                         I hadn't released Horse Outside at that time.
                                         
                                         The Robber Bandits would have been big enough underground.
                                         
    
                                         2009.
                                         
                                         It might have been 2008.
                                         
                                         I'd have done an electric picnic gig or maybe one or two English dates.
                                         
                                         Kojak.
                                         
                                         The Irish rapper today, Kojak.
                                         
                                         It would have been Kojak's level of fame.
                                         
                                         So if Kojak today accidentally died by poisoning himself with a World War 1 gas.
                                         
                                         In a piss bottle.
                                         
    
                                         It would make the papers.
                                         
                                         But imagine that.
                                         
                                         Imagine that's how I died.
                                         
                                         But that's the most.
                                         
                                         Random story.
                                         
                                         That's.
                                         
                                         I just stopped telling people.
                                         
                                         Because it's.
                                         
    
                                         Mad.
                                         
                                         And then.
                                         
                                         I would have 2009
                                         
                                         I wouldn't have had severe mental health issues
                                         
                                         but I wouldn't have been great
                                         
                                         so that explains
                                         
                                         the parasocial relationship with
                                         
                                         the milk bottle
                                         
    
                                         I didn't literally think the milk bottle
                                         
                                         was my friend it was just an
                                         
                                         unchallenged assumption in my head an irrational unchallenged assumption that if somebody had
                                         
                                         stepped in if i'd used a bit of cognitive behavioral therapy and said hold on a second
                                         
                                         here no no no the milk bottle is not your friend i you've, the milk bottle has helped you out on cold nights.
                                         
                                         It's just a fucking milk bottle.
                                         
                                         Get a new one.
                                         
                                         Get a new one.
                                         
    
                                         You don't owe the milk bottle anything.
                                         
                                         That was it.
                                         
                                         It's like I felt I had owed the milk bottle.
                                         
                                         Room and board.
                                         
                                         In my freezing cold gaff.
                                         
                                         And then what happened? So after the chlorine gas incident when I ran back into the room with the jumper over my face because I was like I don't know what this
                                         
                                         gas is but it's it's horrible I got the milk bottle and threw it out the window
                                         
                                         and it just the corpse of the milk bottle lay there for years in the side alleyway
                                         
    
                                         of the house and I was afraid of it and didn't go near it actually now that I don't think my
                                         
                                         mental health was in tip-top shape at that point in my life and that's a lot of projecting onto a milk bottle right there
                                         
                                         but there you go
                                         
                                         there's a random story
                                         
                                         there's a random story
                                         
                                         that I've just stopped telling people
                                         
                                         because it's insane
                                         
                                         so Alexandra asks
                                         
    
                                         how does it feel that the winners
                                         
                                         of this year's Turner Prize have cited you as an influence in their work?
                                         
                                         Oh, yes.
                                         
                                         I wanted to chat about this.
                                         
                                         It feels absolutely fucking fantastic.
                                         
                                         I'll be honest.
                                         
                                         Turner Prize, which is kind of
                                         
                                         probably one of the biggest art
                                         
    
                                         prizes in the world for
                                         
                                         what you call contemporary art.
                                         
                                         If you think
                                         
                                         of like
                                         
                                         Damien Hirst with the
                                         
                                         fucking sharks cut in half,
                                         
                                         floating in formaldehyde,
                                         
                                         or Tracey Emin's bed
                                         
    
                                         where
                                         
                                         an artist, Tracey Tracy Emin put her bed
                                         
                                         in a gallery and the
                                         
                                         Turner Prize used to, it used to be like
                                         
                                         tabloid fodder, the tabloids used to
                                         
                                         love reporting on the
                                         
                                         Turner Prize and saying oh
                                         
                                         the art world has gone mad, they have a bed in a
                                         
    
                                         gallery but the Turner
                                         
                                         Prize is
                                         
                                         probably the most prestigious art award
                                         
                                         in the world, it's only for artists who
                                         
                                         make art within what you'd call Britain and this year it was won by a collective of artists from
                                         
                                         the north of Ireland called Array Collective and one of the pieces of art in this overall artwork was called colonial pineapple
                                         
                                         i think i don't know the exact name the piece of art was called colonial pineapple and the artist
                                         
                                         said in newspaper inspired by the blind boy podcast on an episode i did about the dual relationship between pineapples and potatoes and the history
                                         
    
                                         of Ireland through the lens of a pineapple was a podcast I did so Array Collective said that this
                                         
                                         podcast helped inspire the artwork that they made that won the Turner Prize so for me that's
                                         
                                         that's phenomenal that feels fucking amazing that really and truly
                                         
                                         does feel incredible and the reason it does is I'm an artist and I spent many years in college
                                         
                                         studying art academically up to master's level and when you do that there's a limited paths that you're expected to go in within the art world
                                         
                                         and usually those paths are to continue speaking about art either academically or critically
                                         
                                         in a way that perpetuates high art as being incredibly highbrow. And inaccessible. To the average person.
                                         
                                         You know when you walk into a fucking art gallery.
                                         
    
                                         If you're ever over in London.
                                         
                                         And you wander into the Tate or something.
                                         
                                         And.
                                         
                                         You see a fucking plaster cast of someone's cock inside in a wheelbarrow.
                                         
                                         And you go what the fuck is that?
                                         
                                         You walk over to it and you look at it.
                                         
                                         And then beside the plaster cast of the cock and the wheelbarrow
                                         
                                         is a piece of paper on the wall called the Statement of Intent.
                                         
    
                                         And the artwork is called The Tears of Oedipus.
                                         
                                         And then the Statement of Intent says,
                                         
                                         this artwork explores the liminalities between our post-structural relationship
                                         
                                         with capitalism and our vision of ourselves as a collective body.
                                         
                                         And you're just going, I don't know what the fuck this means
                                         
                                         I just thought it was a cock and a wheelbarrow
                                         
                                         I guess I'm thick
                                         
                                         I guess I'm really really stupid
                                         
    
                                         and I'm not allowed to have any opinion now on this artwork
                                         
                                         because the words that are being used to describe it
                                         
                                         are so fancy
                                         
                                         that I must just be stupid.
                                         
                                         So instead what I'm going to do is I'm going to walk around this art gallery really seriously and really quietly
                                         
                                         because I'm terrified that someone's going to look at me and think that I'm not smart enough to get this art.
                                         
                                         I don't like that about the art world.
                                         
                                         I think it's exclusive.
                                         
    
                                         I think it's fucking ridiculous. It's utterly,
                                         
                                         it's pointless. A lot of the time I think it exists to inflate the prices of art so that
                                         
                                         different types of rich people can compete with each other. It allows very rich people to purchase
                                         
                                         taste so that they can differentiate themselves from equally rich
                                         
                                         people who want to buy a Ferrari who they look down upon. It's like you might have the same
                                         
                                         amount of money as me but you're not as educated as me because I know what the cock in the wheelbarrow
                                         
                                         really means and I'm gonna pay 10 million for it while you're over in Dubai doing coke off
                                         
                                         someone's taint and I don't think it helps people or it helps art
                                         
    
                                         and that is is a path that I would be expected to follow to perpetuate that shit when you get
                                         
                                         like a master's degree in art and instead I went no fuck that I'm gonna do this podcast and I'm
                                         
                                         gonna speak about art or artists or cultural critique and I'm gonna to do this podcast and I'm going to speak about art or artists or cultural critique.
                                         
                                         And I'm going to speak about subjects which are considered highfalutin or highbrow or inaccessible.
                                         
                                         And I'm going to speak about them in a way that's fun and enjoyable and matter of fact to reveal to everybody.
                                         
                                         No, art isn't exclusive at all.
                                         
                                         Art isn't for really smart people art is actually
                                         
                                         for everybody and it's a really fun and enjoyable way to think about ourselves in society using a
                                         
    
                                         different language and that's what i tried to do with this podcast but the risk of doing that when
                                         
                                         you do something like that when you speak about art but you don't use solemnity
                                         
                                         to do so solemnity being the insincere performance of seriousness when you speak about art using
                                         
                                         silliness and humor and fun you then run the risk of someone accusing you of lacking depth or not having decent critique or being lowbrow so
                                         
                                         for someone winning the fucking Turner Prize to say that this podcast influenced the work that
                                         
                                         won the Turner Prize it just feels really nice that's external praise that I can take to bed
                                         
                                         if you get me because I'm always cautious of any external praise because if you take
                                         
                                         positive external praise on board then the negative external critique hurts you twice as much so I try and
                                         
    
                                         keep things internal how do I feel about what I'm doing but for Array Collective to say that about
                                         
                                         that my podcast inspired one of the pieces in that that's fucking amazing that feels absolutely
                                         
                                         wonderful and thank you so much to
                                         
                                         array collective for citing me and fair play to ye for winning the fucking turner prize holy fuck
                                         
                                         and to speak about the the artwork that array collective made so the turner prize is for
                                         
                                         artists that make art within britain the north of ireland is politically considered part of Britain. Array Collective are based in Belfast. I think they're all people from the North of Ireland.
                                         
                                         It's a collective of, I think, like 11 people. And what they made that won the Turner Prize is
                                         
                                         they made an installation and a film. They made a shibine. A shabine is that's an irish word it's also present
                                         
    
                                         in africa it's also present in the caribbean via the irish diaspora but a shabine is an illegal pub
                                         
                                         it's a pub just that just pops up and array collective made this shabine that you can walk into and you can see a film that they made and all around the
                                         
                                         shabine is it's decorated with various pieces of like protest art i haven't seen it but it's
                                         
                                         basically like a bombardment of of anti-colonialism it deconstructs the colonization of the north of ireland it has
                                         
                                         pieces that address lgbtq rights in the north of ireland abortion rights the brutality of the
                                         
                                         british army against communities in the north of ireland the erosion of the Irish language the erosion of Irish history
                                         
                                         Irish culture
                                         
                                         the erosion of Irish mythology
                                         
    
                                         and it does all this
                                         
                                         using fun
                                         
                                         and silliness
                                         
                                         and crack
                                         
                                         but also because it's an installation
                                         
                                         because it's a shebeen
                                         
                                         that you can walk into
                                         
                                         it now becomes a piece of participatory
                                         
    
                                         art now what i mean by that is if you think of okay traditionally there's a painting on the wall
                                         
                                         you go into a gallery and there's a painting i'm the observer there's the art it's a very binary
                                         
                                         relationship where you're looking at the art and that's it with this installation you can walk inside it and all around you are these
                                         
                                         different humorous things nailed to the walls and by presenting it as the familiar fun space of a
                                         
                                         pub now you're not in a gallery anymore you're in a place where it's okay to speak to have fun
                                         
                                         to have crack and most importantly you don't have to be wrong.
                                         
                                         So in order to engage with this artwork, you're not just observing, you're participating by the
                                         
                                         act of conversation. And that's really powerful, because what you're speaking about is colonialism,
                                         
    
                                         abortion rights, erosion of Irish culture, all these really important things that aren't spoken about
                                         
                                         in England at all
                                         
                                         and the English critics
                                         
                                         are fucking so pissed off
                                         
                                         that this won the Turner Prize
                                         
                                         like the Guardian made shit of it
                                         
                                         the Guardian called this
                                         
                                         they called this piece of work amateurish
                                         
    
                                         they called it like
                                         
                                         they just said it was always a bit of fun
                                         
                                         and it's quite amateur
                                         
                                         but I don't think it has any real depth but the fact of the matter is what this work has
                                         
                                         done is it's confronted the type of of middle class art critic in england who likes to think
                                         
                                         of themselves as left-leaning and open- minded it's confronted
                                         
                                         them with the very real
                                         
                                         lasting
                                         
    
                                         present traumas
                                         
                                         on an entire
                                         
                                         region which is technically
                                         
                                         in Britain as a
                                         
                                         result of the brutality
                                         
                                         of colonisation. A conversation
                                         
                                         they do not want to have
                                         
                                         so what they've had to do is say
                                         
    
                                         I didn't
                                         
                                         pay much attention it's just some silly irish shit i'm not too sure like the guardian's actual
                                         
                                         headline when reviewing this piece of work was if only it actually served pints which i don't know
                                         
                                         why but there's an anti-irishnessness in there. It's almost like saying.
                                         
                                         Sure the only time I'd go to fucking Belfast is to go to a pub and get pissed like the Paddies.
                                         
                                         Why are you bringing it over here?
                                         
                                         Why are you giving me one of your stupid fucking pubs where you nail things to the roof.
                                         
                                         And I can't even get pissed you fucking mix.
                                         
    
                                         Do you know what I mean?
                                         
                                         They're writing it off in that way.
                                         
                                         But the reality is
                                         
                                         this artwork is making you think about
                                         
                                         the colonisation of Ireland
                                         
                                         that's still happening
                                         
                                         and it's making you think about your uncle who was in the paratroopers
                                         
                                         and what he might have done
                                         
    
                                         so let's just call it silly
                                         
                                         let's just call it some silly paddies having fun
                                         
                                         and you might be thinking there
                                         
                                         if the artwork is getting bad reviews
                                         
                                         why are you talking about it as if that's a good thing?
                                         
                                         Because the English critics who were refusing to engage with the artwork seriously have now become part of the artwork via performance.
                                         
                                         They're unknowingly playing out the historical role the British politicians have played by not taking the north of Ireland
                                         
                                         serious politically. Like it reminds me of one of the fucking maddest things that happened
                                         
    
                                         during the period we call the Troubles would be like Gerry Adams who was leader of Sinn
                                         
                                         Féin was an elected MP but the Brits brought in a law that his voice could never be heard
                                         
                                         on television.
                                         
                                         So they hired a voice actor whenever Gerry Adams was on TV to say the exact words that he's saying,
                                         
                                         but a voice actor with a gnarly accent had to do it instead.
                                         
                                         Like, they'd dub over his voice with someone who just sounds like him
                                         
                                         to discredit the demands of Republicans
                                         
                                         as silly and absurd
                                         
    
                                         and not worthy of engagement
                                         
                                         and now that's what those critics are doing
                                         
                                         they're just becoming the voice actors that were doing
                                         
                                         Jerry Adams' voice
                                         
                                         they're now part of the artwork, they're part of the shebeen
                                         
                                         they're the RUC on the outside
                                         
                                         slamming their truncheons against
                                         
                                         their palms, waiting for the excuse to shut it down
                                         
    
                                         okay, are we going to have an ocarina
                                         
                                         pause like I said ladies and gentlemen truncheons against their palms waiting for the excuse to shut it down. Okay are we going to have an ocarina pause?
                                         
                                         Like I said ladies and gentlemen
                                         
                                         this is an off the cuff podcast
                                         
                                         this week.
                                         
                                         I'm going to answer
                                         
                                         a couple of more questions. Here's a shaker
                                         
                                         pause.
                                         
    
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                                         sounding year christ i'm not even gonna make any predictions do i have any resolutions I'm gonna try and get more sleep
                                         
    
                                         that's been my resolution
                                         
                                         every fucking year
                                         
                                         I never do it
                                         
                                         because I'm terrible at sleeping
                                         
                                         my brain always wakes me up to think about something
                                         
                                         I'm gonna make an effort to
                                         
                                         meditate more
                                         
                                         definitely
                                         
    
                                         I need to be disciplined in my daily meditation checking in at my emotions
                                         
                                         checking in at my feelings grounding myself that's such an important tool that I have for the
                                         
                                         regulation of my emotions and my mental health and to know to understand the difference between
                                         
                                         to not allow my emotions. To dictate my thoughts.
                                         
                                         To dictate.
                                         
                                         I don't want my emotions informing my view of the world.
                                         
                                         Because emotions aren't always.
                                         
                                         Factual.
                                         
    
                                         You know.
                                         
                                         If I'm living.
                                         
                                         Living life with the emotion of anxiety.
                                         
                                         And everything is threat based.
                                         
                                         And if then I behave.
                                         
                                         As if everything is a threat.
                                         
                                         I'm going to have quite an unhappy life.
                                         
                                         So.
                                         
    
                                         I want to.
                                         
                                         Meditate twice a day.
                                         
                                         15 minutes twice a day.
                                         
                                         I've done it before.
                                         
                                         It's just sometimes I get lazy.
                                         
                                         And if I do that.
                                         
                                         Then I'm emotionally present.
                                         
                                         I'm grounded.
                                         
    
                                         I'm mindful.
                                         
                                         And I can make.
                                         
                                         Decisions.
                                         
                                         About myself.
                                         
                                         And about other people.
                                         
                                         That are informed in the present moment.
                                         
                                         So that's a new years resolution.
                                         
                                         I'm going to start getting into yoga.
                                         
    
                                         Because I've got a fucking trapped nerve.
                                         
                                         I've a trapped nerve in my fucking shoulder lads.
                                         
                                         I don't know how I got it. But it's very unpleasant. And a trapped nerve in my fucking shoulder lads i don't know how i got it but it's
                                         
                                         very unpleasant and a trapped nerve is it's not like an injury it's just there's these long nerves
                                         
                                         in your body and i have one that goes from one hand to the other hand right across my shoulders
                                         
                                         and it's trapped somewhere which means when i go to the gym to lift weights it kind of exacerbates
                                         
                                         it a bit so i haven't been going to the gym to lift weights it kind of exacerbates it a bit
                                         
                                         so i haven't been going to the gym to lift weights as much which is disappointing because i love that
                                         
    
                                         stuff for the the free head medicine so i'm doing these these movements called nerve glides
                                         
                                         they're like slow movements that floss the nerves in my body which sounds mad but it does work
                                         
                                         floss the nerves in my body which sounds mad but it does work
                                         
                                         but yoga is a fantastic
                                         
                                         way to do that so
                                         
                                         I'm gonna start doing yoga
                                         
                                         go onto YouTube and do some yoga
                                         
                                         shit to improve
                                         
    
                                         my flexibility and the health of my
                                         
                                         nerves
                                         
                                         what else am I gonna do
                                         
                                         I think that's about it, more mindfulness
                                         
                                         meditation, some yoga
                                         
                                         and better sleep if I can if meditation some yoga and better sleep
                                         
                                         if I can
                                         
                                         if I can fucking
                                         
    
                                         get better sleep
                                         
                                         I will
                                         
                                         but sure fuck it
                                         
                                         em
                                         
                                         I might be on
                                         
                                         Twitch this Thursday
                                         
                                         I probably will
                                         
                                         I might even do
                                         
    
                                         something on New Year's Eve
                                         
                                         we'll see how it goes
                                         
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                                         as an ongoing piece of participatory art let's take another question actually you know what i
                                         
                                         want to i want to go back to a previous point about the role of silliness. And fun and crack. In art.
                                         
                                         And how it can be a very dangerous thing to do.
                                         
                                         Because.
                                         
                                         Whenever art is fun.
                                         
                                         Or silly.
                                         
    
                                         It tends not to get credit as being serious.
                                         
                                         And this is something that always has gotten my goat.
                                         
                                         I've mentioned so many times like.
                                         
                                         With the work I did fucking. the years with the Rubber Bandits.
                                         
                                         Like, there's a lot of Rubber Bandits songs that I would have put a huge amount of effort into musically and thinking about what the song is about in the video.
                                         
                                         But because it uses humour and fun, it just gets called novelty music.
                                         
                                         And when something's called novelty novelty it's not taken seriously or
                                         
                                         engaged with critically at all and what used to bother me about that is
                                         
    
                                         there's so many artists and acts in music in particular and their work is taken dead seriously they're seen as being so worthy of critique and analysis
                                         
                                         and if you strip it back some of it really isn't at all some of it really isn't it's it's
                                         
                                         there's not much going on with the lyrics the music is kind of thrown together but the band
                                         
                                         are able to perform a sense of seriousness
                                         
                                         if they use a lot of
                                         
                                         black and white photos
                                         
                                         if you see a band
                                         
                                         that has tons of
                                         
    
                                         black and white photos
                                         
                                         and everyone on stage
                                         
                                         looks dead serious
                                         
                                         they could be farting
                                         
                                         into a fucking
                                         
                                         McDonald's cup
                                         
                                         and someone will
                                         
                                         give it this
                                         
    
                                         incredibly
                                         
                                         solemn critical eye.
                                         
                                         And it's always bothered me.
                                         
                                         I think it's such a discredit that when art uses silliness or humour,
                                         
                                         that it's not taken seriously.
                                         
                                         And one thing recently that I thought was fantastic in this overall conversation is
                                         
                                         one band that are taken very seriously
                                         
                                         would be the Beatles, right?
                                         
    
                                         Now I'm a huge fan of the Beatles.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I am a huge fan of the Beatles.
                                         
                                         I wouldn't listen to them loads.
                                         
                                         Now the reason I wouldn't listen to the Beatles loads
                                         
                                         is that their music was so influential
                                         
                                         in the 60s and copied so much
                                         
                                         that it's actually quite difficult to listen to the Beatles
                                         
                                         because you can't hear how original they are
                                         
    
                                         because other bands copy them so much
                                         
                                         but I enjoy the Beatles
                                         
                                         and recently there was this documentary called Get Back
                                         
                                         it's on Disney I think
                                         
                                         and it's an 8 hour long documentary
                                         
                                         about the Beatles
                                         
                                         it's a documentary hour long documentary about the Beatles.
                                         
                                         It's a documentary made for the podcast generation.
                                         
    
                                         It's just eight hours of the Beatles talking in a studio.
                                         
                                         Now that sounds shit, but it's not.
                                         
                                         It's fucking amazing.
                                         
                                         And you don't even have to like the Beatles to enjoy it.
                                         
                                         It was directed by Peter Jackson, who made Lord of the Rings.
                                         
                                         It's fucking incredible. I enjoy it. It was directed by Peter Jackson. Who made Lord of the Rings. It's fucking incredible.
                                         
                                         I loved it.
                                         
                                         But what I adored about this documentary. Is.
                                         
    
                                         The Beatles are seen as this.
                                         
                                         Serious band.
                                         
                                         Very important artists.
                                         
                                         So much depth to their work.
                                         
                                         But when you watch.
                                         
                                         The Beatles.
                                         
                                         Recording their album over the course of 8 hours, there's no seriousness at all.
                                         
                                         They're non-stop.
                                         
    
                                         When they're not fighting, when they're not fighting and they're actually creating, they're having crack.
                                         
                                         They're writing these really silly, foolish songs and most of the time they're just trying to make each other laugh.
                                         
                                         foolish songs and most of the time they're just trying to make each other laugh because the creative process has to involve play and fun and enjoyment and even art that appears
                                         
                                         to be dead serious is usually the result of playfulness and fun and I think that documentary does a great job as disappointing a lot of really kind of stuck up
                                         
                                         people who would view the Beatles as this really serious intellectual band with huge amount of
                                         
                                         depth behind what they do and then you see their process and you go no it's just a bunch of friends
                                         
                                         trying to make each other fucking laugh and trying to come up with silly lyrics that fit in the moment
                                         
                                         to make each other giggle and to do silly voices and all this stuff
                                         
    
                                         and then at the end they refine it into something that's a bit more professional.
                                         
                                         Actually, this leads on to a question I wanted to answer.
                                         
                                         So Lauren asked,
                                         
                                         Can you speak about your involvement with the new devon townsend album
                                         
                                         so there's this there's an artist called devon townsend who is someone i really admire devon
                                         
                                         townsend he's a legend he's credited with inventing a genre called speed metal so devon
                                         
                                         townsend is a heavy metal artist he's been going since the 90s
                                         
                                         started off with a band called
                                         
    
                                         Strapping Young Lad
                                         
                                         very heavy fast metal music
                                         
                                         that's quite theatrical
                                         
                                         and Devin
                                         
                                         he's Canadian
                                         
                                         he released an album like a month ago
                                         
                                         which was called
                                         
                                         is it called Jigsaw Puzzle
                                         
    
                                         The Puzzle is the name of the album right
                                         
                                         and I'm actually on it
                                         
                                         and loads of people were going
                                         
                                         loads of heavy metal fans
                                         
                                         were listening to Devin Townsend's new album
                                         
                                         going why the fuck is Blind Boy
                                         
                                         on this on Devin Townsend's new album
                                         
                                         and the reason is devin devin became a fan
                                         
    
                                         of the rubber bandits years ago and i was always a fan of strapping young lad and we kind of got
                                         
                                         chatting and we both love like frank zappa and the reason devin and i both love Frank Zappa is he's a musician who had no problem using humor and fun
                                         
                                         and comedy in his music while still being quite serious about the quality of the music and the
                                         
                                         integrity of the art that he was making so I also I interviewed Devin on this podcast about three
                                         
                                         years ago when I was over in Vancouver.
                                         
                                         But it didn't go down properly.
                                         
                                         It was the start of me learning how to record outdoors.
                                         
                                         And it didn't go down.
                                         
    
                                         But I will chat to Devin again the next time I'm in Canada.
                                         
                                         So Devin got on to me last year and said, I'm making this new album.
                                         
                                         It's quite experimental.
                                         
                                         Would you be interested in making a track with me on it.
                                         
                                         And he sent me over a bunch of.
                                         
                                         Stems for tracks and stuff.
                                         
                                         Unfortunately my head was up my arse.
                                         
                                         It was right in the middle of lockdown.
                                         
    
                                         My mental health wasn't great.
                                         
                                         I was stretched creatively.
                                         
                                         I couldn't do any more work.
                                         
                                         And I didn't. I wasn't able any more work, and I didn't,
                                         
                                         I wasn't able to complete the project with Devin,
                                         
                                         but instead what he did is,
                                         
                                         he took excerpts of this podcast,
                                         
                                         and put it over one of the tracks,
                                         
    
                                         on this new album,
                                         
                                         The Puzzle,
                                         
                                         so,
                                         
                                         that's why I'm on Devin Townsend's new album,
                                         
                                         and it's a wonderful honour,
                                         
                                         because he's a fucking legend,
                                         
                                         and who else is on the fucking album?
                                         
                                         Steve Vai, I'm on an album with Steve Vai
                                         
    
                                         fucking hell
                                         
                                         so that's why I'm on Devin Townsend's new album
                                         
                                         but Devin is someone I greatly admire
                                         
                                         because he uses huge amounts of humour
                                         
                                         in his work
                                         
                                         he's a legend of metal
                                         
                                         he uses huge amounts of humour
                                         
                                         absurdity, silliness all this in his work and i have huge
                                         
    
                                         respect for artists that do that because it's a dangerous thing to do it's a very risky and
                                         
                                         dangerous thing to do if your work is silly for some reason people don't take it seriously
                                         
                                         and why does that matter because i'm always saying that external praise doesn't matter
                                         
                                         the only reason that gets my goat is because it's it's literally unfair it's unfair and
                                         
                                         any critic who would write off a piece of work as novelty
                                         
                                         or not worthy of critique
                                         
                                         just because it uses humour
                                         
                                         it means that that critic
                                         
    
                                         fundamentally doesn't really understand art
                                         
                                         or in the case of music
                                         
                                         they don't really understand music
                                         
                                         they're listening to a band's haircut
                                         
                                         rather than listening to the actual music
                                         
                                         so when you have that as a dominant culture
                                         
                                         it can feel like banging your head off a wall so it makes you not want to make art at all
                                         
                                         that's why i'm always upset by that i'm going to take one more question
                                         
    
                                         this wasn't even going to be a podcast at all this was just going to be a gentle accompaniment
                                         
                                         to a run or a walk um sean asks what mental hurdles have you had to experience
                                         
                                         in order to better yourself it's hard to gain confidence to go for a run because you don't
                                         
                                         want to feel like that twat that just started running now that's a common one there when it
                                         
                                         comes to let's just stick with exercise i know quite a lot of people who would love to better them
                                         
                                         better themselves we say by going to the gym i'd love to go to the fucking gym and get involved in
                                         
                                         exercise but i'm really self-conscious that people will stare at me or i look like i don't know what
                                         
                                         i'm doing similarly with running like i've been running now for six or seven years
                                         
    
                                         I run a couple of times a week my Achilles heel is fully healed by the way it was giving me trouble
                                         
                                         for most of last year but it's fully healed now so I'm back running and one thing I used to know
                                         
                                         one thing I noticed over the past couple of years when I'm running. Every so often.
                                         
                                         Like once every three months.
                                         
                                         I'll be running along the road.
                                         
                                         And then it's always a man.
                                         
                                         Some man will be like in a car with his friends.
                                         
                                         And as I'm just minding my business and running.
                                         
    
                                         Listening to my headphones.
                                         
                                         A man will stick himself out of the window of his car and start clapping at me like I'm in a marathon and I just get on up my run and I'm like
                                         
                                         why is there a grown man like clapping at me just because I'm running like why is he making fun of me and then I realize he thinks
                                         
                                         I'm showing off in his mind I couldn't possibly be out running because it's enjoyable I'm out there
                                         
                                         on the road showing off looking for attention and Sean when when you asked that question and you
                                         
                                         said it's hard to gain confidence to go for a run
                                         
                                         because you don't want to feel like that twat that just started running.
                                         
                                         What I would ask you to do there is to analyze the part of yourself
                                         
    
                                         and to take responsibility of that part of yourself
                                         
                                         that's a little bit like that man in the car who's clapping at me when I'm running past.
                                         
                                         Because I remember I used to think like that too.
                                         
                                         I used to see people out running in all their running gear.
                                         
                                         And because I wasn't running.
                                         
                                         And the concept of running sounded terrible.
                                         
                                         I used to think.
                                         
                                         Look at him showing off.
                                         
    
                                         In his high-vis jacket.
                                         
                                         And his tight pants.
                                         
                                         No one's looking at you.
                                         
                                         Cop onto yourself.
                                         
                                         And I had no empathy whatsoever that
                                         
                                         maybe the person's running because they find it enjoyable so if you sean want to get to a point
                                         
                                         so you're scared of if i go for a run i'm gonna look like that twat that just started running
                                         
                                         they're your own words you have to remove the part of yourself that thinks about that twat that just started running
                                         
    
                                         and you have to confront your assumptions about who they are and what they're doing because
                                         
                                         if you're looking down on people or looking up at people that it's hard
                                         
                                         then to have a decent sense of self-esteem basically because you are thinking about that
                                         
                                         twat that just started running or when you look at someone who's running and you yourself are
                                         
                                         looking at them you're making the assumption that everyone else will then look at
                                         
                                         you when you start running and the reality is most people don't give a fuck most people really
                                         
                                         really don't give a shit if someone is out on the road running they don't give a fuck they're not
                                         
                                         looking at you once every four months a man will clap at you from a car that's it now i'm speaking of course
                                         
    
                                         from the point of view of being a man and the privilege that goes with it um i don't know what
                                         
                                         the lived experience is for a woman who's out running which i can imagine like with anything
                                         
                                         that a woman has to do is going to be a lot more difficult so as a man who's out running the worst i have to deal with is some lad clapping at me once every four months but sean the
                                         
                                         next time you see someone out running and you feel contempt for this person which means you're judging
                                         
                                         them or you're cringing on their behalf try and have compassion for that person out running try and have compassion for them and say to yourself they're just doing this for themselves
                                         
                                         and me looking at them that's my shit and i'm gonna need to just accept that they're out running
                                         
                                         and ignore them and when you do that then you'll be able to go out and start running and then the obvious one as well just go
                                         
                                         out and fucking do it go out then and be that twat that just started running embrace the anxiety of
                                         
    
                                         your own judgment someone who thinks like you might see you and think look at that twat out running he just started what a fucking prick
                                         
                                         embrace that and confront that and live through the fear and terror of that experience
                                         
                                         and once you do it the fear will get less and less and before i know it you're running
                                         
                                         and get yourself a couch to 5k app and one piece of advice as well which is good if you're a beginner runner or
                                         
                                         you're a beginner going to the gym then wear the clothing of someone who isn't the beginner
                                         
                                         that's a simple one like when you said that twat who just started running
                                         
                                         immediately the vision that comes into my head is
                                         
                                         it's usually someone running in a pair of tracksuit pants that are a little bit too big
                                         
    
                                         or the odd time someone running in a pair of jeans very rare very rare but the person who's
                                         
                                         running in a tracksuit pants that's a little bit too big and a pair of runners that you know aren't really for running they're what they're
                                         
                                         way around wear around the house so start to dress like a person who's not a beginner runner
                                         
                                         get a set of runners that you like get a set of leggings or a t-shirt or whatever
                                         
                                         and look like someone who knows what they're doing and that will help with your confidence
                                         
                                         similarly if you want to go to the gym just dress like the person who's a little bit more experienced and that will
                                         
                                         put you under pressure as well to commit to what you're doing but with anything a simple rule for
                                         
                                         self-esteem if you're very critical of other people and contemptuous of other people then
                                         
    
                                         you're going to be terrified that that same energy will be turned on you.
                                         
                                         I mean, it's like people online who are like serial begrudgers.
                                         
                                         You'll find people online who are very, very critical of people's music or people's sporting efforts.
                                         
                                         People who are continually cutting people down online.
                                         
                                         You rarely find that these people
                                         
                                         try to pursue any of their own dreams because if you're that critical of other people
                                         
                                         that's how critical you are on yourself when you even begin to attempt it and that's why
                                         
                                         you rarely find fucking extreme begrudgers doing anything worthwhile with their talents.
                                         
    
                                         You just rarely see it.
                                         
                                         The begrudgery always turns inwards on themselves.
                                         
                                         Right, one more.
                                         
                                         Carrie asks, why is our culture so shit at honouring grief and how can we build the positive structure of making it
                                         
                                         a part of life carrie i believe is from england the english have a weird english funerals are
                                         
                                         quite different to ireland it's very sanitized there's a number when a person dies they almost
                                         
                                         wait like a week before the funeral occurs i don't know why this is but i think it's it's the the english
                                         
                                         thing about expressing emotions so it's giving the family a week to hide their emotions so that
                                         
    
                                         when the church funeral part happens they don't have to have the public shame of tears so they
                                         
                                         can prepare for it for a longer amount of time also in england you
                                         
                                         don't have the tradition of viewing dead bodies in ireland i think we do have a healthy tradition
                                         
                                         around grief and death we have in ireland what we call the wake now wakes a proper rural wake
                                         
                                         now i don't know if this shit happens anymore but traditionally a real proper rural wake now i don't know if this shit happens anymore but traditionally
                                         
                                         a real proper rural wake the dead person is like brought to the house of the family and stays there
                                         
                                         overnight in the fucking living room and sometimes with a real fucking rural irish wake people
                                         
                                         literally get drunk around the corpse and have been known to pick the corpse up
                                         
    
                                         and put alcohol into the corpse's mouth.
                                         
                                         Now, I don't think this shit happens anymore,
                                         
                                         but it used to happen in like the 1800s.
                                         
                                         So now you've got someone who's dead in the family house
                                         
                                         and people are drinking with the corpse
                                         
                                         and giving the corpse drink.
                                         
                                         I think this happened in Irish culture
                                         
                                         as a result of sellers. Now, I heard this somewhere. It culture as a result of cellars.
                                         
    
                                         Now I heard this somewhere, it's unconfirmed.
                                         
                                         But in Irish villages, the only place that had a space cold enough to hold a corpse
                                         
                                         was the cellar of the local pub.
                                         
                                         So dead bodies used to be held in the pub cellar.
                                         
                                         And because there was alcohol present, people would just get drunk around corpses and that's the genesis of the Irish wake and how
                                         
                                         drink is involved with it now people don't really get drunk with corpses anymore in Ireland but what
                                         
                                         we do have is quite a lot of funerals you go and view the dead body of the person.
                                         
                                         You view the person who you loved, the bereaved person, you witness their dead body.
                                         
    
                                         Not a lot of people like to do it.
                                         
                                         It can be frightening.
                                         
                                         But you're most definitely confronted with the certainty of that person's death.
                                         
                                         I was talking to my buddy recently in Spain.
                                         
                                         And he came back from Spain with his Spanish wife to Lerick and they went to a funeral over the summer and he never told his spanish wife about
                                         
                                         our relationship with corpses so she rocked on up to the fucking the viewing thinking it was a
                                         
                                         regular fucking funeral and now she's in a room with a dead body and she couldn't handle it because in spain the fucking coffin in spanish funerals especially around andalusia
                                         
                                         the coffin is like in a separate room behind glass i'm guessing because the
                                         
    
                                         traditionally this area is so hot and there might be rapid decomposition or smells
                                         
                                         but in eng England I know that
                                         
                                         you don't get to see the dead body
                                         
                                         there's a huge amount of time between
                                         
                                         so maybe the English should start doing that
                                         
                                         start drinking with corpses
                                         
                                         start at least witnessing
                                         
                                         the physical dead body of the person that's bereaved
                                         
    
                                         that might be a healthier way to confront
                                         
                                         the reality and certainty of what's just
                                         
                                         happened even though it's painful but life is painful life is suffering death is inevitable
                                         
                                         dog bless you all how long was that
                                         
                                         that was a big rambling podcast lads alright forgive me you know the crack this week
                                         
                                         I wasn't going to do one
                                         
                                         let poor old blind boy have a week off
                                         
                                         from hot take research
                                         
    
                                         and do an old off the cuff podcast
                                         
                                         and
                                         
                                         next week hopefully I'll be back with something
                                         
                                         that
                                         
                                         I've put a bit of thought and research into
                                         
                                         I don't have a song for you this week
                                         
                                         alright I don't have a song for you this week. All right, I don't have a song for you this week.
                                         
                                         I will have a song next week.
                                         
    
                                         Bye-bye.
                                         
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