The Blindboy Podcast - Parsons Arse Party
Episode Date: May 15, 2019How emotions can make us "dumb" and "Stupid" Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....
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so
it's May
it's May and I fucking love May lads
I love
early May in particular.
It's,
I think it might be my favourite time of the year
because it's so optimistic.
Just in terms of the weather.
I speak a lot about,
you know, looking at your environment
and looking at the weather
and trying to find meaning in it. In terms of a here and now existence, you know looking at your environment and looking at the weather and trying to find meaning in it in terms of a here and now existence you know if i go for a walk or a run
i try and be present in nature i try and take note of the smells take note of the you know the
feeling of the ground is very different to the feeling of the ground like in in november if
you're walking.
It's squishy.
It might be hard if it's cold because of ice.
You might get a little bit of cold in through your sock.
You know.
All these things I try and be aware of.
In May it's totally different too. But also the smells and the colours are completely different.
And to be honest.
Like I do.
I search for beauty.
In the death and decay of November.
And it's hard going.
You know, it is hard going.
You really have to look for it.
But in early May, it's served to you on a fucking platter.
Just look at the trees, like the quality of leaf that's on the trees at this time of year.
It's this gorgeous
emerald
you know this really young vibrant
these leaves that are just
fresh out of their buds
and they give off this lovely
smell of dew or whatever
I don't know what it is and the flowers are out as well
bees are having
great crack, wasps are having crack
it's a very optimistic time of year
the birds lads the sound of the birds the chicks are out they're getting fed i love early may
mornings and evenings so what i've been trying to do is as you know i love my running i love to run
three four times a week for my mental health
it's a huge part of my mental health regime
and I
I've been doing it in the mornings and the evening
I've been splitting it into
5k in the morning, 5k in the evening
so
what was it I wanted to
yes, this is what I'm tying together
people are always asking me do i take supplements
i do take one or two now i don't know whether supplements work or not case in point go into
fucking holland and barrett look at any supplement and on the side of it it never says what it does
it will never say to you this supplement is good for your eyes that to me says because they legally can't prove it
so a lot of supplement stuff the science behind it is ropey so i just go on experiential i take zma
that's keeps your testosterone kind of level i suppose at 25 your testosterone fucking dips off
so if you take zma it's just zinc magnesium and vitamin b6
apparently that will keep her testosterone levels healthy which means that if you're exercising
you have good testosterone in your body and you sleep better i find it works i don't know
could be bullshit i also take turmeric for my lungs don Don't know if it works, having a clue, but what harm.
But then, yes, another supplement I've started taking recently,
which, personally, I do think I'm noticing a difference.
Unfiltered apple cider vinegar.
Teaspoon of it into a pint of water, morning and evening.
The reason I got it is I had these itchy palms,
and I didn't know what it was.
And I think what it was is I did two courses of antibiotics there a couple of months ago and that can fuck up your stomach bacteria
like when you take antibiotics especially two courses of them it will kill all the bacteria
in your body and you need to have a good balance so I think mine was off and expressed itself as
this weird skin infection or itchy
palms or whatever the fuck i had itchy palms and itchy elbows so i took cider vinegar and it went
away in a day so that to me says the probiotic qualities of unfiltered apple cider vinegar
sorted out but another unintended consequence i get very sore knees after running
if I do a run
the next day my knees are swollen and sore
and things like climbing stairs are a bollocks
and I hate it because I fucking love running
but I also don't like having sore knees
when I'm climbing up the stairs
that literally went
as soon as I started taking this apple cider vinegar
so I'm able to run in the mornings and the evenings,
no knee pain,
I don't know what that is,
I don't know,
I looked it up and apparently,
there's claims that apple cider vinegar can be very good for,
your joints,
do you know,
but none of it's proven,
that's the problem,
there's no hard science behind it,
it's more kind of anecdotal, But my experience of it, yes, it has gotten rid of my knee pain. I don't know, is that a placebo? I'm not sure. But why am I talking about apple cider vinegar? Because someone asked about supplements. Am I sponsored by big vinegar? No, I am not. I am not sponsored by any supplements nothing i'm answering
a question you cunts all right what do i want to talk about this week this week i've got
it's a hot take it's something
what i want to i want to investigate something this week and it's something that I've learned over the years
just in my experience of living and dealing with myself
and dealing with people.
It's the hot take about
how emotions can make us stupid we'll say
now first of all
I don't like the word stupid
I don't use that word
I don't
I specifically don't like the word stupid
as a fucking label
you can disagree with me
I genuinely don't think there is such thing
as a stupid person
I don't think that's
I just don't think that's the case I don't I'm is such thing as a stupid person i don't think that's i just don't think
that's the case i don't i'm not into this concept of fucking iq where you measure people based on
intelligence in my dealings with people you just i don't think stupid is a thing I'm much more interested in there's a model of intelligence
called
it was started by a dude called Howard Gardner
and it's known as the
multiple intelligences model
and this is the more modern
appraisal of human intelligence
it's closer to
if you've ever taken like an
aptitude test it's not far off that so
what multiple intelligences says is that rather than humans being we'll say an iq which is a
number a determinative number instead humans are on a scale where we all have different varied multiple types of intelligence
and some people are stronger in this place and some people are stronger in that place
that's what I believe and it's how I experience humans so
what I want to get at is
a lot of people
I'm trying to do this now
without using language that's not shitty
right so if I use shitty language
understand that I'm
using it as
I'm using it
in the way that it's used in society
rather than me using it right now.
So people who we would, people who behave in ways that we would traditionally call dumb or stupid,
a lot of it in my experience, it has nothing to do with intelligence.
It has to do with emotions and the literacy literacy that a person has around their
emotions and how that basically overrides cognitive decisions cognitive being rational
thinking decisions okay and a lot of these people if you consider them stupid dumb silly whatever
you want to call it but just buddies of yours friends of yours you go oh they're they're thick
they can't be relied upon they're forgetful they have shit memories. If you ask them to do a task, they'll do it arseways.
They won't turn up on time.
They'll fuck things up.
These type of things that we say about a person.
And then you'll go, don't rely upon them, they're thick.
Like, I've dealt with many, many people with these labels.
Through work and through socializing in my life
and I've never found that to be true instead what I've found is these people and actually
I should stop saying these people because I should include myself in this as well it's about emotional literacy not understanding and being able to correctly
label your own emotions will mean that your decision making your memory all this stuff
is negatively negatively impacted by this and as a result you will behave in ways that would be
labeled as thick dumb or stupid and it's really fucking unfair um another issue i have as well
just as an aside with the you know labeling people as smart or dumb like if you get me like you listen to this podcast so
if you get me talking about art we'll say or music something that i'm confident in
knowledgeable about something i innately understand you'll come away from that and you'll go wow that that fucking blind boy fella is really
smart jesus did you hear him talking about uh music or did you hear him talking about uh art
paintings how does he know so much he he he's smart he's intelligent right and i get that a
lot from people people go jesus you're really intelligent the way you speak about art and music and
yeah because within my multiple intelligences i'm very strong in creative fields so therefore
not only have i an innate ability in those areas i'm also comfortable in those areas it doesn't
trigger any negative emotions for me i actually feel quite confident in those areas. It doesn't trigger any negative emotions for me.
I actually feel quite confident in those areas.
So as a result of that, the speech from my brain to my mouth is uninterrupted, enthusiastic passion.
And we then read this as someone being smart.
But when I'm in situations where none of these things are being spoken about
let's just say my my weakest area will say is in maths i'm very very very poor in maths
unbelievably poor i have difficulty counting my fingers and that's not a joke when I'm in these situations
and if someone only met me in those situations
they would walk away thinking
he's thick
he's thick as pig shit
and several things happen
like let's just say I go to a shop
if I go to a shop
and I'm buying something
and I'm handed back change
if the person behind the counter was to ask me how much change did I give you
first off I'm naturally not great at counting change number one then what happens and this
is the big big issue like that will emotionally trigger me
so if I'm asked
put on the spot in a situation
to count change
what happens is
a big load of fear
comes up in my belly
I start to experience anxiety
and I go oh fuck
I am shit at maths
I know I am shit at maths my entire life I've been shit at
maths now I'm an adult who's barely able to count I have shame around this I'm now being asked in a
shop to tell them how much fucking change I have and I can't count this shit in my hand now the
thing is if I was able to relax around it i probably would have a i'd have
a good chance at counting that change i wouldn't be the best at it but i'd be able to but because
i'm putting the spot my emotions kick in and now i'm definitely not counting the change and i would
probably run out of the shop say something really stupid or just grab the money and throw it into the
fucking the nearest poor box so i wouldn't have to count it and leave and that person's experience
of me would be what's that person's problem are they thick so in situations where i'm being asked to count my behaviour would be labelled as stupid
dumb or thick and
if I was in a job
we'll say where the only
skills that are asked of me are
my numerical ability
I would be labelled as
an unreliable
thick stupid
person, I'm using quotes for all of these
now these are all quote on quote I'm not using these labels I'm using quotes for all of these now. These are all quote-unquote.
I'm not using these labels.
I'm saying this is how society sees it.
So what I want to talk about this week is
how emotional flooding, we'll say,
how a surge of emotion in our body
can bypass our cognitive abilities and cause us to behave in ways that are seen as or labeled as
thick stupid or dumb and why a lot of friends that you have that you might label as being these things
or yourself are actually not and how we can work around it so what i want to get at in this in this podcast is
you me all of us right we have aspects in our everyday lives where we're essentially
behaving in a dumb or stupid way.
Okay?
Now, I'm going to... What do I mean by that?
What I mean is...
Everyday situations throughout your day
where you're not...
The tenets of this are you're not solving problems effectively. You're not behaving in tenets of this are, you're not solving problems effectively.
You're not behaving in your own best interests.
You're not getting what you want out of situations.
And most importantly, later on in the day, with hindsight, when you look back,
you're able to see that you're kind of going why the fuck did I say that
why the fuck did I do that
why did I
back away from that
and then
in a more toxic way you can find yourself
going why am I so fucking
stupid
why am I so thick
that's the more toxic end of it which can reinforce
it's like Why am I so thick? That's the more toxic end of it, which can reinforce.
It's like you're aware of these things in hindsight,
and we all kind of have this,
and it doesn't really have to be that way.
My life used to be full of this shit, and then I got around it.
So I'm going to talk about some of the examples and how you kind of get around it.
Here's the classic
which everyone can relate to right this is this is a real fucking classic think back to when you
were a teenager and you really really fancied somebody you know a boy or a girl, whatever, this person who you had a crush on and you're a teenager.
And then you're placed in a situation where you have to speak to them.
You know, you're around them and you have to now have a conversation with this person you have a crush on.
And firstly, think of how it feels
well it's kind of
you feel anxious
not anxious in that threatened way
but you don't feel at ease
you feel self-conscious
I mean I remember
if there was 15, 16
talking to a girl I fancied,
my mouth would go dry.
I'd have difficulty forming sentences and words.
When words or sentences did come out,
it would be something which I would later label as fucking stupid or dumb.
And they leave, the girl or the boy leaves
and then you're back talking to your friends
and you're normal again, you're able to be you
and you're left going, how the fuck am I supposed to ask this girl to go out with me
when even being around her, I'm a thick bastard
and that's a common thing for all fucking people, the
heartbreaker of that is, and this is the old cliche where it's like, nearly everyone, especially
when they're a teenager, will say, the person that you fancy never fancies you back, and
the people that fancy you are the ones that you don't fancy, and i think there's a really simple emotional reason for that like how how
is another person supposed to find you attractive if when you're around them you're a bumbling eejit
who is essentially like not only is a bumbling but you're giving off energy that's very anxious
and you're also not comfortable in your own skin you're not yourself
so no human being is really going to find that endearing or attractive that the micro signals
of that are not going to draw another human towards you and most likely it would push someone
else away and that's the tragedy of that kind of teenage puppy love shit you know
also as well we tend to universally
we tend to be attracted to people who make us feel at ease when you meet someone and they're
so comfortable in themselves that they're cool and relaxed and calm, that's attractive, do you know what I mean,
so that explains why the people you don't fancy, fancy you, because you're being yourself around
them, but anyway, why does this happen, why, what the fuck is that, what's the point of that,
well, what it is, is, now I'm no expert on the fucking human brain, I'm not trained in this, I'm not
studied in this, so I have a very basic knowledge that I would have gleaned from just books I've
read, okay, so this would, anyone who studies the brain will laugh at me, but here's the gist of it,
so there's a very primitive part of your brain called the thalamus or the hypothalamus.
And this is, it's an immediate kind of sensory tiny part of the brain that is quite, it's not very complex.
It perceives food, you know, if something is nice, if something is threatening, that's what this part of the brain does.
But it's the, it's the alarm of the brain we'll say it's not responsible for complex thought it's responsible for the immediate detection of sex food or danger and this part of the brain
alongside the amygdala have been parts of our brains billions and billions of years before we were
humans going back billions of years ago these were the parts of the brains the the thalamus
and the amygdala these are the parts of the brain that are responsible for triggering emotions and
they're not about thinking we'll say the part of the brain that's about thinking,
that really complex human part of the brain
that took millions of years to evolve,
that region is called the neocortex.
If you're relaxed and you're listening to this podcast
and you're taking in what I'm saying
and not only taking in but you're engaging with what I'm saying and you're
simultaneously listening to me agreeing with me disagreeing with me thinking of situations in
your life that apply to the shit that I'm saying that's you engaging your neocortex the really
complex part of our brains that's responsible for problem solving understanding things ideas that's the neocortex
so when we perceive an immediate threat or a desire these emotional things when that's really
intense what can happen is the primitive part of the brain, the amygdala and the thalamus,
they can kind of take over and they can bypass, in a sense, this lovely big neocortex,
which is responsible for rational, measured thinking.
So what happens when you are talking, you know, you're 15 and you're talking to the girl that you fancy, what's going on there?
Well, what happens is, you know, first off, fancying someone and being in love, they're mad weird things that that does to the brain.
You know, they're fantastic.
You know, the butterflies in the stomach, they're all quite similar in a way to how we
experience anxiety but it's like good anxiety um and there's a mixture of good and bad anxiety you
know it's getting at the deepest part of yourself that needs to reproduce and pass on your fucking
genes but the thalamus and the amygdala kind of perceive it as i don't want to say it not a threatening situation
as an emotionally stimulating situation right that's what they perceive it as an emotionally
stimulating situation so they go into overdrive they don't really connect with the neocortex
the part of yourself that wants to have a regular normal conversation because
a threat is perceived. Now there also is the other threat. Actually this is a big part of it.
When you're 16, 15, you're really, really, really fucking insecure.
No, like teenagers don't have adult senses of self-esteem. It's quite normal for a teenager to have low self-esteem
because teenagers are finding their sense of self.
So they don't have a solid sense of self to ground themselves in in the first place.
So I think as well, thinking back to that teenage situation,
talking to the person you fancy, it's the threat of rejection and what
rejection means for somebody who doesn't have a solid sense of self if you don't have a solid
grounding in self and you can't go home later on that day and say you know someone else's opinion
of me doesn't matter you don't have that when you're 15 the girl you fancy doesn't like you
it is heartbreaking or the lad you fancy doesn't like you it's heartbreaking because you've placed all your self-worth and value in their opinion of
you and you also want them so the brain perceives it as this big emotional threat and when the
amygdala and the thalamus take over your brain they can do three things and three things only. Fight or flight.
We've spoken about this before when it comes to anxiety.
When it comes to anxiety, the fight or flight response kicks in.
But this isn't really a full-on anxiety situation.
The third thing it will do is it will freeze.
So when you're there talking to that other person you fancy
and your mouth is dry and you've butterflies in your stomach, and you can't talk, and you can't form sentences or words, freeze has kicked in in that situation.
Freeze has kicked in.
And the mad interesting thing about that is, like, you can trace that through evolution, evolution again right back to when we were lizards
before the dinosaurs like i said this emotional center of the brain the thalamus and the amygdala
they're billions of years old and they're the first parts of the brain that developed
in the earliest creatures that came out of the oceans even the fucking fish the first brains that ever evolved had these thalamus and the amygdala
and i've spoken before about you know when you experience intense anxiety
you can feel you can feel like you need to shit you can feel like you need to take a shit right
uh literally shitting yourself before i said the reason was the little lizard a billion years ago if they shat themselves they
could evacuate their fucking bowels they'd lose half their weight as a result and they can run
away faster so that's the flight response okay um that can happen during intense anxiety situations
and that's why as well I think people with anxiety over a long time end up with stomach complaints.
But freeze is a different one.
The little lizard who is about to get eaten by another lizard and feels this threatening situation and their amygdala kicks in.
Our ancestors, like lizard ancestors,
they can freeze.
They play dead.
They don't move.
So that the predator or the threat simply goes this is not food i must walk
away so when you're 15 16 talking to the person you fancy the lizard brain from a billion years
ago kicks in and instead of being a you know trying to let the other person know, I fancy the fuck out of you, will you go on a date with me?
Your amygdala has perceived them as a predator and your food and you don't want to get eaten, so you freeze.
And the reason I'm talking about having the crush when you're a teenager. Is that I think that's.
Ubiquitous.
We've all fucking had that.
That's a part of growing up.
And it's not really relevant.
Once you get to about 1920.
That's not really that relevant.
You move on beyond that.
But.
The mechanism.
Of.
Essentially freezing. And then later on that day saying to yourself
that was dumb why did i behave in such a dumb fashion that shit we do carry on into adulthood
like i said that's what happens me if i'm placed in a situation where my numerical or mathematical abilities are
kind of brought to the fore I will freeze and I'll do some dumb shit I'll throw the coins on
the floor I'll run out of the shop I will not behave like an adult it will trigger me emotionally
and I have to have an awareness around it um just one really really silly example but i do think it's relevant
in this situation i'm an adult man i can't roll joints i'm unable to roll joints okay now i'm an
artist i'm good with my hands i can make things i can paint but if you fucking hand me the you know a bag of weed and some skins
are not even fucking weed if i just have to roll a cigarette i can't fucking do it my hands will
freeze i have to be really aware around it even when i tried to get better at it it's difficult When I was 14 in school, what was it?
We'd all just started smoking weed.
Or no, it was hashback then.
We'd all started smoking anyway.
So I rolled a joint at home, right?
I rolled a joint at home.
And I was just learning.
And I kind of made a bollocks of it right
I made a bollocks of this joint
and I'd managed to lick the sticky part of it
so
I fixed it with pritt stick
ok
so I'd made the joint it was grand and I'd hidden it
in
do you remember those white marker pens that you could use to erase
ink I'd managed to hide the joint
perfectly in that so I took it
out anyway and I was showing the lads and I foolishly told one of them this joint didn't
work properly so I stuck it with pritt stick and this ended up passing around and I got a huge
slagging being called pritt stick by the lads because I tried to roll a joint with Prittstick
and this was a massive social faux pas
in Limerick when I was a teenager
if you were hanging around with lads
and you were supposed to be a hard man
he can't roll joints, he used Prittstick
so I got such an immersive slagging from it
and because you're 14, 15
I couldn't really take slaggings
even though the lads were having crack
I didn't perceive it as a bit of fun
I would have perceived it as bullying
and not very nice and embarrassing
and it's stuck with me since
so I'm now a grown fucking man
and when I'm put in a situation
where I have to do a rolly or a joint
I will freeze
my brain will freeze.
My brain will freeze.
And even I try and try and try to get good at rolling, I can't fucking do it.
Because my muscle memory has tied in with this experience of being called pritt stick when I was a kid.
So therefore when it comes to rolling joints, I'm thick, I'm an idiot I wonder was that too much of a digression
was that too bizarre a way
to try and illustrate the point I'm trying to make
the point I am trying to make
is that
at times
our brains still rely
upon
very very old school mechanisms around emotions,
which can lead us to not make the best decisions for ourselves,
to lead us to act in ways that aren't in our best interests,
that aren't in the best interest of people around us.
Because a part of the brain kicks in, unique to all of us,
that basically says, fight, flight or freeze
before I move on with it
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you can please consider it so on to emotions and how certain emotions can make us quote unquote be stupid.
I spoke about emotional intelligence
or sorry, multiple intelligences
which if you want to boil down
what multiple intelligences mean
you can't judge a fish
by its ability to climb a tree.
Fish swim.
They live in water.
They're brilliant at it.
Okay, they're fucking class. Ask a fish to climb a tree and they're brilliant at it they're fucking class
ask a fish to climb a tree
and they're going to look pretty shit
and they're going to look useless
and they mightn't survive
here's a classic example I always kind of think of
do you know your man Elon Musk
so Elon Musk is
he's a billionaire
he runs Tesla I know he gets a lot of flack
people say that you know all he does really is is he comes up with mad ideas and other scientists
figure it out well look Elon Musk is obviously brilliant in his field in his field talking about
what he knows about and doing his thing he is at at the very least what we would consider to be a very intelligent person.
He's smart enough to be a multi-billionaire in the industry that he's in.
So we have to go fair play on that.
He's good at his job.
Exceptional.
But if you've ever seen Elon Musk on fucking Twitter he is incredibly
dumb, irrational
reactionary
and
I saw
a lovely quote once about Elon Musk
where someone said
it's nice to wake up
in the morning and see that
even though Elon Musk is this
incredibly successful billionaire
he still he still ruins his morning in the same way that I do arguing with assholes on Twitter
and he went through a huge period of arguing with people on Twitter to the point that
he said some shit on Twitter that caused real
you know real trouble
in the real world
he has shareholders in his company
and he went on Twitter one night and said
something like he was thinking of making the
so his company
was public and it had shareholders and he was
thinking of making it private again
he just decided this is what he needed to tweet
and it caused real life stress it was
for anyone watching looking at elon musk this quote-unquote genius if you judge him on his
social media ability the man is thick as pig shit okay it's you're left going wow
why are you tweeting such stupid shit and i think it's a big thing with twitter
our celebrities that we look up to that we perceive as geniuses in their field and then
you see them on fucking twitter and they're just rolling around the mud arguing with people saying
silly things that they regret later we look from a distance and go jesus christ will you stop
somebody stop this person well that to me just means that when it comes to social intelligence
elon musk isn't great and he is being overcome by perceived threats and emotions
he's not engaging his neocortex
and he's making these really emotional decisions
about what he needs to tweet
I think Donald Trump is another example
Donald Trump
someone needs to take his fucking phone off him
now I don't know how smart Donald Trump is
but
as president of the fucking United States
if you look at his twitter you go jesus fucking
christ will you stop donald you're going to start a war with iran this is this i i see this behavior
as incredibly dumb and stupid why are you doing it but this incredibly dumb stupid behavior and
just to use elon musk as an example it's not stupidity or dumbness on a cognitive level what it is
is the emotional brain taking over and the rational problem solving here and now in the
present moment neocortex not being engaged and every single separate emotion that we experience
has its own
little version
of this where it can act as
cause us to behave in ways
that are detrimental
to us
anger right
grown men
get into fights
okay
you know the story
you're out with your fucking mates
and
we refer to these people as hotheads
which I think is quite
I think it's quite a beautiful apt phrase
and I don't know
how I don't know how on the ball it is or whether
whether it refers to we'll say the the amygdala but the amygdala is at the front of our heads
it's right there on your on your your forehead and sometimes when you get really emotional
your forehead can feel actually hot and the phrase hothead is quite interesting in terms of that so you're out
with your fucking mates one of your buddies is very easily triggered into fights this can be
someone who could have a family he could have a fucking job and all of a sudden this person is triggered by some slight
with another lad or whatever
you know a comment is made
a look is given and now all of a sudden
this person is putting
themselves in a situation where
most importantly
when two grown adult men fight
there's a very strong chance
that someone can die, people die
in fights, okay okay hit someone a
slap they fall on the ground they hit their head off the fucking curb they're dead that happens
secondly you put yourself in a situation where you could be arrested charged with assault you
could lose your fucking job you put all your friends lives in danger and their livelihoods
in danger but yes time and time again every fucking weekend
and drink doesn't even have to be involved drink just makes this shit easier you have someone
making incredibly silly and dumb decisions that they now need to get into a fight with another
grown adult human despite all these consequences.
And you could be looking back going,
that stupid fucker.
Similarly, not in a physically violent way,
but have you found yourself getting into,
we'll say your anger is triggered.
The angry part of you is triggered but usually with someone you care deeply about a partner or a sibling or a good friend and something they've said or done
has caused you now to experience a degree of anger where you feel it around your body your teeth clench your fists clench
and now all of a sudden you don't feel like you have control over your words anymore or your
actions and this person who you care about and love you're now saying the most hurtful thing
you can possibly say to this person
the most horrible hurtful thing that you don't even believe you just know it's going to hurt
them in the moment and you're saying this to them and then you have to leave that situation
and later on you go why the fuck did i do that why did i say that really really mean thing to
this person that i care and love about why was I so silly I don't even mean it
that right there is what I'm talking about you're behaving there in a way that could be perceived
as dumb and silly it's not within your best interest it's not within the best interest of
the other person it's not in the best interest of your relationship and it can it can work as well with uh social situations if you're the type of
person who is anxious in social situations in general you could be quite an intelligent
person on your own or maybe with another person but then you find yourself in
a group of people and you're saying silly things to try and make other people laugh
or you're giving people too many compliments or you're unable to even a conversation is brought
up about something that you should know about
and you can't even recount the facts and you're consistently terminally shy and aware of every
element of your behavior and very self-conscious and completely unable to
effectively communicate use your vocabulary even listen properly to the other person.
And then you leave that situation and later on you go, what the fuck did I do that for?
Why are you so stupid? Why are you behaving in a way that's so dumb?
And in each of those situations, in the anger situation and in the situation with the social thing, every time the same thing has happened.
The primitive part of the brain has taken over.
It has caused a flood of emotions which has asked for, in the anger it's a form of fight.
In the social situation it's not fight, it is is is a freeze as such when when you're
in a social situation and you're so self-conscious that you become subservient to other people
that when you're in the social situation you're not meeting the other person as they are
instead what you're trying to do is to please them to either to be so
anxious that all you want to do is to say things for them to like you that is a form of freezing
that's the part of your brain telling you to freeze because freeze is basically your emotional
brain is saying this other person is a predator they want to kill me
so maybe if I
wag my tail
it's like a little dog
think of
we've bred dogs to be subservient
dogs used to be wolves
that would stare us out of it and attack us
but we found the friendliest wolves
and bred very very obedient
subservient dogs
and some dogs when you meet them
they will put this lovely little smile on their face
wiggle their bodies
wag their tails
and then get down on their backs
and show you their bellies
to let you know
you are the boss
please don't hurt me
a lot of us do that in social situations lads
and that can be crippling for a lot of people because as adult humans we know our neocortex
the problem-solving intelligent part of our brains understands and knows i am not subservient to other
people other people are
not better than me we're all the same age we're all at a fucking party why did I lick everybody's
arse why when I spoke I fumbled my words out why did I feel my face going red why did I
shower someone in compliments?
Why did I say those things that I know are so dumb and I did it in that situation?
You turn into the little dog in that situation
because that's the freeze part of your brain was triggered
by the amygdala and the thalamus, right?
And the knock-on effect from that which can be shitty as adults both those situations what comes with them is a great amount of shame
the man who goes out and almost has a fight or does have a fight, in the moment they feel justified, they feel angry but the
next day they don't. Unless they have kind of sociopathic tendencies or such severe elements
of anger that they won't take any ownership and even the next day they're saying no that
fucker in the bar was wrong he deserved it but most adults won't do that most adults the day after will say oh for
fuck's sake everyone was looking and i was squaring up to a grown man and everyone was embarrassed
and now i feel very embarrassed about this that degree of shame about reappraising your behavior
in a shameful fashion and essentially self-flagellating that shit's not good for mental
health long term at all similarly the person who is so shy in a social situation the next day who
is sitting down on their couch engaging their neocortex the problem solving thinking part of
their brain the part of themselves that's confident they look back and say for fuck's sake why did you lick everyone's arse you piece of
shit and then you now have a negative cycle of self-talk around subservience which ultimately
what it does it just makes the problem worse it makes you want to avoid social situations because you think what's the fucking point i'm
just going to go to that party not enjoy myself be worried about being nervous be concerned about
having a red face feel very fucking anxious and i'll do it all again so i'm just going to avoid it
and it can lead to avoidance behaviors and it can lead to issues with connecting with other people, with intimacy.
All because, not all because, but a factor of it being the emotional part of the brain took over.
And it caused you to freeze like a small dog wagging its tail.
And what both of these things are what I call it sometimes
it's when you're
it's when I feel like
I'm living in my head
that's what I say
it's
like that social situation
I described there
I would have done that
when I was 19, 20
at the height of my anxiety
and social situations were a trigger for me I would have done that I would have done that when I was 19 20 at the height of my anxiety and social situations were
a trigger for me I would have done that I would have found myself in groups of peers
not connecting with people not being myself really feeling the need to impress people
as opposed to just simply being there and going no how I am is good enough I don't need to impress anyone
I just need to have
crack
that was a big big one for me
it's not anymore thank fuck
but
how I remember experiencing it as
living in my head
you're
never
a good way to spot it is someone who's like that they don't have a real ability
to verbally communicate with other people classic example you're having a conversation with somebody
you're so self-conscious that you're not really listening to what the other person is saying
what you're doing is you're waiting for them to what the other person is saying.
What you're doing is you're waiting for them to finish speaking.
So you can speak.
And that's not communication.
And it comes from an anxiety of not being in a social situation. Because ultimately your self-esteem says I'm not good enough.
I'm not as good as these other people.
I'm not a real person.
And people pick up on this shit.
And it can have...
The problem with that behaviour is...
Some humans can...
Pick up subservient behaviour.
And...
In a very pack-like way way kind of run with it and then
you end up becoming the runt. You soon find yourself being the butt of jokes and things
like that you know and that can be very tough for people with social anxiety who are in
these situations and it can make people very angry and resentful of other people we can also find ourselves being with our emotional brain being engaged
you know not even in situations the lad who is starting to scrap in the pub
you know that person's trigger is anger you know what gets their hypothalamus and their
amygdala to take over the brain is the emotion of anger but like it happening in a pub and manifesting itself as a
potential physical fight that's an exceptional circumstance it's only a small percentage of
people whose anger will trigger their brains in those situations most people it doesn't manifest as scrapping in a pub
what it manifests as is intense anger while they're on their own
being on your own in your room or whatever, and really fixating on an argument you had with someone the other day
or an argument you haven't had yet
or thinking about what you should have said
or thinking about what you would like to say
but truly experiencing it as rage on your fucking own, okay?
it as rage on your fucking own okay a lot of people live their lives in that way which means you're consistently living in your head
when you live that way where it's a non-stop rage-filled fantasy of getting revenge or wronging rights perceived writing perceived wrongs all these things that's
a consistent existence or large parts of your day where you're not engaging the neocortex so
you're essentially hot-headed all day and only the emotional brain is being used.
And you're then expected to behave as a person who is supposed to be making rational decisions.
So you're sitting at your office desk.
You have responsibilities and demands and jobs to be done.
And now all of a sudden you're incredibly forgetful.
Your memory is unreliable.
You can't stick to deadlines.
You can't envision goals.
You can't plan.
Your timekeeping is shit.
Here's a...
Yeah, that's another fucking thing, lads.
When you live intensely emotionally, right? when i when i say emotionally i mean
the emotional flooding the intense stuff in your head when you live like that you don't perceive
time correctly okay a bit like because there's good things with this as well if you have a lovely daydream for yourself
a nice peaceful relaxful relaxing daydream that's a form of emotional flooding that's good when you
hear a joke and all of a sudden you scream laughing that's the same thing it's the primitive
part of your brain that does that too but these are the positive things but when it's the negative emotions such as rage and anger
you could spend an hour sitting on your bed or sitting in your office and you're staring into
the abyss fantasizing about arguments that have happened or haven't happened an hour could pass
and you'd go fuck me was that an hour i thought it was five minutes. That can destroy a person's ability to truly function as effectively as they can be as a human being.
Because the neocortex, the thinking rational part of the brain, is not being engaged.
So how are you supposed to plan? How are you supposed to have deadlines?
How are you supposed to set and meet goals? How are you supposed to plan how are you supposed to have deadlines how are you supposed to set and meet goals how are you supposed to live a meaningful existence when this is the way
it is now imagine how that person has been perceived by their co-workers
don't give them that job their head is up their arse
they missed three deadlines last week
they keep coming in late
they're thick, they're fucking stupid
don't rely upon them
the simplest things in the world
you give that person the simplest fucking task in the world
and they will let you down
they're thick as pig shit
fire them, out the door
the person
the person might be incredibly capable of their job they
might be very intelligent well able to do it but the problem is the emotion is stopping the
engagement of the rational problem solving thinking part of the brain it doesn't have to be anger it
can be worry you can worry a lot worry is anxiety essentially you're focusing a hell of a
lot on terrible things that might happen that haven't happened various fantasies and scenarios
of how things will go wrong how you will be rejected how you will end up same shit what does that do to your memory if you're thinking anxiously non-stop
living in your head the amygdala and the hypothalamus doing their thing your memory is
fucked you can't remember what happened two weeks ago your perception if you're living that way for six months of the year for an entire
fucking year people can live that way because you're not here and now engaging the fucking
neocortex experiencing life with all the smells and sounds and sensations and emotions that go
with it you're not perceiving time properly.
So your perception of time and memory is fucked up as well.
And a lot of us go about our lives this way.
And people around us look at us and go.
They're fucking thick.
They're incapable.
They're stupid.
And it has nothing to do with these things. It's not a lack of cognitive ability or skill it is simply
that we're being slaves to our negative emotions so how do you kind of get around it
um a big one The biggest of all.
Having the self-awareness.
To know when this is happening.
That's the real key.
That's how I started.
When I was in social situations.
Because that was my trigger.
Anger.
The odd time.
The odd time. The odd time.
No, actually no, I would... My main trigger would have been the social anxiety situation.
So if I found myself in a challenging situation such as being at a party
and I would be coming away from these parties feeling drained, feeling unhappy,
feeling as if I said and did things that were foolish that i was self-conscious
i would train myself the first part was obviously learning this shit that i'm saying to you now
the beauty of psychology is and i get it a lot from feedback with these podcasts and i know it
myself because this shit that I'm talking about,
I might have read this in books 10 years ago.
When you hear something about psychology,
about a way that you behave,
and you click with it,
and you say to yourself,
fuck it, that's what this is,
it doesn't feel like you're hearing something new.
What's actually happening is that you're simply receiving words
for something you already knew deep inside in your unconscious.
So if you're listening to this going,
fuck it, that's exactly how I am at parties,
or that's exactly how I am in the office with anger,
you know this already.
You just don't have the language for it, so
by me giving you that language, it just unlocks a key, and then you get this lovely feeling
of catharsis, because you're like, finally, I fucking knew this, I just didn't have the
words for it, so that's step one, to be honest, step two, and it's how I enacted it, is I became aware that,
okay, when I'm in social situations,
when I'm in parties,
when I'm talking to a group of people,
more than one person,
I find myself really fucking behaving differently
and behaving in ways that I don't feel is me.
Trying to impress people,
going out of my way to make people laugh giving someone too many
compliments doing these things that afterwards i feel a sense of shame i feel like i became a
little dog who rolled around with his belly and wagged his tail and begged everyone not to kick
them that's basically what i would do 10 10 12 13 years ago at parties I'd become aware of it and I'd say right how do I
tackle this
so I would start
to
notice
ways of being
whether it be
how my
I'd find myself
I'd rub my knees a lot maybe
you know when you're, it brings up this energy
and the energy has to go somewhere, usually through your limbs.
So you'll find yourself, classic fucking example, lads.
If you want to look at a group of people and spot the person with social anxiety,
what are they doing?
They are the person who has a beer in their hand
and what they're doing is they're slowly peeling that beer off the label or slowly peeling the label off the beer or they have a beer mat in their hand and
they're ripping the beer mat to little pieces and they have a pile of beer mat in front of them
that's the person who has social anxiety because the emotional flooding that's happening in their
brain and all the anxious chemicals going around the
body they have to manifest themselves in some type of physical self-management behavior such
as playing with a label or playing with a beer mat or for me it was yeah i would have been ripping
ripping all the fucking labels off the beers or rubbing my fucking my knees or biting my nails so i would become aware of these physical
markers we'll say so i'd go hold on a second i'm i'm ripping the fucking thing off this beer now
i don't need to be doing that and if i'm doing that i'm not engaging in conversations so i would
take the the beer label ripping off as the sign and I'd go right I'm in my
head right now and I'd
check in at myself
I was also meditation is very
handy for this shit
remember a couple of weeks ago I did the guided meditation
with Chi and that guided meditation
at the start of it
I did what's known as a body scan
the body scan that is the
opposite of this negative shit I'm talking about now.
If you want to get out of your head,
if you find yourself consumed with anger, consumed with worry, consumed with anxiety,
and your amygdala and your thalamus are what are driving the,
they're at the driving seat basically.
If you want to disengage them and get back into your neocortex,
the big, big complex part of your brain that problem solves and experiences emotions properly if you want to
get out of that a great way is the body scan exercise and i would find myself doing that in
social situations so i'm going right i'm fucking with my beer mat i'm fucking with my beer label
body scan quick body scan so i'd shut the fuck up
and i'd silently sit and all i'd do is i would from the floor up to the top of my head i just
i'd be looking at people i'd be nodding my head or i might even go away to a little corner myself
and i would i'd go i noticed my feet on the ground and then I'd imagine like a light going up through my body
and I'd say I can feel my calves I notice my thighs and my arse on the chair I notice and feel
the small of my back and my shoulders against the chair and finally I notice and feel the top of my
head and then once I've done that I'd go I am in a room with
lots of people it's a bar and I'd say these little things internally to myself about what I'm doing
and where I am and I would make damn sure that I'm physically in my body checking in with my
environment because what that does is like that's really complex think of the complexity that you're
asking your brain in that situation you're thinking about yourself you're using abstract thoughts
you're focusing your mind's eye down into into your foot into your knees the amygdala and the
thalamus your lizard brain they don't do that shit that's the
neocortex that's the really complex i'm fucking with the uh my thing here now the the pop shield
but those are the complex pop shield's gone those are the complex part of your brain and that's what
you engage with a body scan so i I would do this in social situations.
All of a sudden my breathing changes.
I'm now breathing slowly.
Like when I meditate.
So then the second thing that I would do.
Is I would say to myself.
I'm anxious in social situations.
I'm under no fucking obligation.
To really.
I don't really want to speak to anyone.
I don't have to.
So what I started to do. I started to become really, really good at just listening.
If you're a socially anxious person, and you find yourself needing to please people,
or you find yourself embarrassing yourself, shut the fuck up.
Just breathe, listen to someone, be mindful of eye contact, check in with being relaxed,
get really, really comfortable in another person speaking to you and let them talk
and nod your head and listen to what they're saying and if they're talking about something that's sad check in with
the empathic sadness that you feel by simply listening to someone telling you something sad
or if they're telling you something that's angry or if they're telling you something that's funny
and i used to start to practice this in social situations and all of a sudden it stopped becoming I didn't get have the social
anxiety I didn't mind being at these things I found that I don't need to tell people these
things that are happening in my life I don't need to make someone laugh I don't need to impress
someone all I need is to be present for them and if I feel like speaking I will when relevant but I'm not going to
talk for the sake of it and I'm listening to what they're saying and I'm not waiting for them to
finish so I can blurt out whatever the fuck so they think I'm cool and it all happened around essentially mindfulness being aware of my environment understanding and spotting when
i'm getting these emotional triggers and actively doing something about it not at home in my bedroom
but in the social situations and it really worked I'll tell you another fucking thing.
And this is really fucking mad.
I used to think.
If I go to parties.
And I speak and talk.
Or.
Talk about stories.
Or facts that I knew.
Facts actually.
That's what I'd do.
Just be roaring facts at people.
Because it would keep me from a genuine conversation
roar facts about fucking giraffes necks
or whatever
in the hopes that they would think that I'm interesting
or they would think that
my self esteem was telling me that I was
another piece of shit
so that if you roar facts at someone they might at least think you're interesting
when you learn to simply
listen and say nothing people end up thinking that you're fucking interesting because people
don't want to hear what you're saying people just want to be heard so if you're a socially anxious
person and you can go to becoming the person who sits back and simply genuinely listens and genuinely
reflects the emotions that the other
person is saying
a knock on effect is people will think you're interesting
even though you've said nothing
because what you've done there is you've satisfied their
need to be heard
do you know
with anger
same
shit
become aware if you're sitting at your desk with anger, same shit,
become aware if you're sitting at your desk,
and you're fantasizing about an argument you might have had,
or going to the extreme,
and you're fantasizing about choking someone,
or hitting them a slap,
here's the thing, do you really want to carry that person around all day?
If your anger is to such a degree that it's affecting your fucking work your home life that you you you finish your work day and
you get into the car and drive home an hour has passed in the car and you don't even fucking
remember the journey you might as well have downloaded yourself from work to home because you spent the entire journey gritting your teeth
really sit with yourself ask yourself why the fuck am i giving my time my life away
to this fantasy person in my head who i'm arguing with with shit that hasn't even happened yet or
shit that has happened that I've no control over or shit that hasn't happened yet that I don't even
know will arguments that don't exist other than the fantasy in your head really rationally sit
with that and engage the neocortex and say and say to yourself do I need this in my life and use the same grounding exercise
catch yourself in the moment fantasizing with this anger and ground yourself use a simple
grounding exercise check in with your body feel your feet on the floor. Feel. Notice what the anger does to your body.
Notice your teeth clenching.
Notice your shoulders hunched.
Your fists clenched.
And relax it all.
And doing this again.
The complexity of these actions.
Is going to.
Your hypothalamus.
Or your thalamus and your amygdala.
They're not.
You don't need them anymore.
Do you know what it's like?
It's kind of like if you're fucking driving a car, right?
Imagine trying to drive everywhere in first gear.
Do you know what I mean?
First gear in a car is quite useful for one thing.
You start up the car, you get into first gear, and it's very powerful at the start,
and it gives you that initial boost.
First gear is the thalamus and the amygdala.
It has a very limited purpose.
But if you try and do a full journey on first fucking gear,
forget about it.
It's really irrational.
You'll fuck up your engine.
You'll use all the petrol. It'll be loud. It's really irrational. You'll fuck up your engine. You'll use all the petrol.
It'll be loud.
It'll be uncomfortable.
It's disturbing for everyone else on the fucking road.
That's what this is.
So say to yourself.
Do I want to be living my life in first gear?
Or do I want to move up to fourthth or 5th or fucking cruise control and relax
and that's what it is
you can't start a car on fucking
2nd, 3rd, 4th
you need first gear, it serves it's purpose
but for an entire journey it's ridiculous
so check in with the body, check in with the emotions
feel yourself present
and do that as much as you need to do
throughout your day
when you feel
the primitive emotions
taking over
and causing you to behave your life
behave in a way that
dumb and thick and stupid
and is against your own interests
and the interests of the people around you
take responsibility for it in the moment
same with worry
these are all really
achievable things and
I just wanted to talk
about it this week because
it affects everyone, it fucking affects everyone
and it's just
one other little aspect of mental health.
That we kind of look over.
And then to kind of finish it too.
Think of the people around you.
Alright this is what we can use.
Not just for ourselves but compassion for other people.
Your friend who's forgetful who shitted deadlines who looks as if they try but when they do try it doesn't work out
the friend who you find yourself calling thick stupid unreliable try not doing that instead ask yourself
is the instead of this person being thick or stupid or dumb or these horrible labels
maybe they're living in their head maybe their emotion is taken over and as a result they're behaving in a way that you perceive to be dumb or stupid.
And then ask yourself, what can I compassionately do to maybe help them or assist them?
Or if not even to help them or assist them, to give them a break, to relax.
You're at a party, you're chilled out, you're grand
but your friend is a ball of fucking nerves
don't snap at him
let them be a ball of nerves
figure out a way
that you can relax them
without
causing them embarrassment
your friend who
is a hothead and
is going to start an argument maybe don't call him a stupid cunt
maybe don't tell him to cop on maybe try and use an approach that's much more closer to love and
compassion and friendship and see how that gets you because that's another thing compassion and
love especially around anger that would cut straight into anger
honest compassion
honest compassion comes about by
disclosing your own vulnerability
as such
instead of going
here jar
cop onto yourself
start another fucking fight
I'm not fighting
I'm not getting into a fight now
because you're going to start one
go up to jar and say Jesus jar you look very angry Hop onto yourself. Start another fucking fight. I'm not fighting. I'm not getting into a fight now. Because you're going to start one.
Go up to Ger and say.
Jesus Ger.
You look very angry.
I'm picking up from you.
That you seem to be very angry.
What's that about?
And then Ger will say.
That fucking idiot over there.
He looked at me. He looked at me this way.
Or he thinks he's fucking great.
And then say something like.
And how does that feel Ger?
And those type of questions those are questions that psychotherapists use basically to override the emotional brain and get the neocortex going if you say to juror i'm noticing
you're really angry juror in a fucking pub and you're going how's that feeling for you you're really angry, Jer, in a fucking pub and you're going, how's that feeling for you?
You're not going, because the wrong answer or the wrong thing to say is, he's not looking at you, Jer.
He doesn't think he's full of himself.
Cop on.
These, all these things, they just serve
the emotional part of the brain.
But when you say, Jesus, I'm noticing, Jer,
you're really, really angry.
How's that feel?
Jer then has to stop and engage the neocortex and go
it feels feels a bit silly to be honest yeah because i'm thinking about getting this pint
glass and twisting it into his face that wouldn't work out too well for me would it it wouldn't
sure no i'm glad to see you using your neocortex do you want another pint problem solved and
that's known as open questioning
i might do a podcast on that at some point actually that that's a technique that
psychotherapists use if you've been to therapy and you think the therapist is doing fuck all
and they're not telling you anything yeah their job isn't to tell you something their job is to
ask you questions in such a way that you have to search inside for
your own answers do you know right 80 minutes into the podcast i enjoyed that i do i do enjoy
and i'll i get something out of those those podcasts as well you know i i like doing podcasts
like this because it allows me to check in on shit that I use this stuff in my mental health regime and I hadn't thought about
this emotional stuff about emotional triggering like that hadn't thought about it in a few years
and just it popped into my head to do this podcast so even even doing that and speaking about it it
brought a lot of stuff up in me that was relegated to the pre-conscious mind, we'll say.
And now it's in my awareness again.
So thank you for sharing that with me, you pricks.
All right, God bless.
Have a lovely week.
Enjoy yourself.
I'll be back next week.
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