The Blindboy Podcast - Poo Anon

Episode Date: October 14, 2020

A hot take which roots the psychological origins of conspiracy theories in the discovery of soap by early human hunter-gatherer societies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Get down off that sycamore branch, you songbird burnards. Welcome to the Blind Buy Podcast. What is the crack? Welcome this week to my new listeners. I'm sure I've got a ton of new listeners from last week's podcast where I had a fantastic chat with Graham Norton, the TV presenter. Thank you for all the lovely feedback for that. It was very enjoyable to do.

Graham is a lovely chap. And we got the audio fidelity right. And we also managed to achieve. The podcast hug. I noticed that myself. I listened back to last week's podcast. Myself on a run. And I literally.

I forgot I was running. And found myself immersed. In a conversation with me and Graham Norton. As if I wasn't myself. And I was running and found myself immersed in a conversation with me and Graham Norton as if I wasn't myself and I was watching from the wall. So I managed to give myself the podcast hug while listening back. So I was very pleased with that.

If you're a brand new listener, go back to some earlier podcasts. Explore the back catalogue. There's lots and lots of stuff. Alright. If you're a regular listener. What's the crack.

This week I've got. A big steaming hot take. A very large. Sweeping hot take. And I'm not going to tell you what the hot take is. Because I like to execute it via. Exploratory storytelling. That is because I like to execute it via exploratory storytelling. That's what I want to do.

So just put faith in the hot take process and join me for a fun escapist podcast hug. I hope all you glorious cunts are wearing your masks when you're outside wearing your coronavirus face masks not just for yourself but to protect other people I'm wearing my mask well it's you know in Ireland it's mandatory now if you go into a shop

it's mandatory to wear a mask which is good it just makes sense it's just a set of underpants for your face if your genitals were in your mouth and your mouth genitals were pissing everywhere then a set of underpants on your face if your genitals were in your mouth and your mouth genitals were pissing everywhere then a set of underpants on your face are going to prevent people getting covered in your piss so just just that except with spit and a virus you know um one thing though that i'm really

what i'm fascinated and interested in, right? So if I was to walk into the supermarket, now I won't get in there without my mask, but if I was now to walk into a public place without my mask, now this is a strange conversation for me because I wear a plastic bag on my head. I don't wear a plastic bag on my head when I go into shops because when I go into shops because when I go into shops I'm not blind by

so I wear my coronavirus mask when I'm in shops just like everyone else but what I'm noticing is if I walked into a shop now without my mask I would feel nude now I wouldn't

feel like oh fuck I'm not wearing my mask this is risky it's not a fear thing it's now turning into it's registering in my brain as a type as a modesty

like if okay if I walk into a shop with no trousers on it's going to feel incredibly strange alright incredibly vulnerable and exposed With no trousers on. It's going to feel incredibly strange. Alright.

Incredibly vulnerable. And exposed. And strange. And I think if I did that. Without my COVID mask on. I would feel that way. My face. Feels naked.

In a public place. My face. Okay. I can walk around. own house with no pants or under pants on it feels a bit chilly but it's just me so it doesn't feel odd like i'm kind of like i wouldn't mind putting on a pair of pants to be warm but I'll happily walk around with my bollocks out in my own house privately and I don't feel immodest I don't like that word but it's the one that jumps to my head I don't experience social anxiety in the privacy of my own home with my bollocks out okay if I was in Tesco or Aldi or

wherever whip my bollocks out I would experience extreme social anxiety that would feel odd now I'm feeling that way with my face it's like

modesty modesty has ingrained it and the thing is, it's a sensation. So if I walked into a shop, I think it happened by. No, I was in. I was in Dunn stores and my mask was on upside down. So I took it off for like a second to change it. But in that second, when my mask was off, my face for the first time in my life experienced the sensation of nudity because the thing with nudity in a public situation

it's it's a tingle there's a nudity the experience of nudity in a public situation has a specific type of tingle to it. It's a physical anxiety. You get it if you're in a changing room or if you find yourself in a situation where you're in the nip in public. If you're in school and one of your friends pulls your pants down. I can't remember specific instances where I would have had that happen. But I definitely, I know the feeling. where I would have had that happen.

But I definitely, I know the feeling. And when I was in the supermarket last week and I had to take my mask off, my COVID mask off for under 10 seconds to reverse it and put it back, within those 10 seconds, I experienced the tingle of nudity on my face. The anxious, it's an anxiety that is physically localised around the area

that feels nude in a public situation if I'd have walked into that shop with no trousers on, no underpants on bollocks out it wouldn't even require people to stare at me i would i would experience the sensation of nudity and as i said earlier the sensation of nudity it's not about being nude it's when shame is is internalized to the surface of your skin i don't feel this in my house in private. I just feel cold.

But in a public situation, it's different. And I felt it on my face where my mask wasn't. And it's only started. I found that fucking fascinating. You know, it's like the anxiety and the stress hormones of being in a situation where you would elicit public shame those stress hormones localised to the area

as a heightened sensation it felt like the hairs on my face had stood up for a few seconds and it's only started since mandatory mask wearing because

what enforces it? It's not even about coronavirus. It's about pulling your weight. The fact of the matter is if you're in the supermarket and everybody's wearing a mask, no one wants to wear a mask. I don't want to.

Like, by which I mean, okay, I want to wear a mask to keep other people and myself safe but masks aren't comfortable you know what I mean they're not they're not pleasant to wear so nobody wants to go into the shop and it's like excellent can't wait to put my mask on we do it out of a sense of duty and responsibility and because it's mandatory so when everyone else has to wear their mask if one person doesn't then that person is going to experience public shame it's going to become collectivistic because it's going we're all wearing our fucking masks

and we don't like doing it either who the fuck are you to think that you don't have to I know it's unpleasant but who the fuck are you and that had localised to my face and I found that fascinating because it taught me a lot about concepts of modesty and I mean in Victorian times a lot of this stuff

it's mostly gendered and it was mostly historically applied to women like in 1890 a woman would experience the sensation of nudity on her ankles if they were exposed you know um in countries in countries that are islamic where face coverings are part of the religion and tradition. Do people there, would they experience, I'd imagine they would, experience the feeling and sensation of nudity if they weren't wearing a hijab or a burqa, you know?

Even like in Ireland, at the fucking beach. If I'm at the beach in Ireland as a man and I take my top off, I won't experience the sensation of nudity on my torso at the beach, but it's acceptable. I might experience it in a car park. if it's hot, if it's a hot car park in June or July and I take my top off and I'm bare chested, I will experience

the semi-sensation of nudity. It's hot. Most people will look at me and say, I understand it's hot. You've got your top off. But it's a statement. It's a large statement

to make in an urban environment to be bare-chested in a car park in an open air outdoor car park in july same car park in october not a hope i will experience the sensation of nudity if i'm bare-chested in an october car park that's a strong statement that's i'm looking for trouble. I'm looking for attention. And it'll be reflected back to me by the gazes that people give me, you know, because it's a strong statement. And I will experience the public shame as a tingle on my skin.

Underground car park, not a hope. There is never an excuse to be bare-chested in an underground car park. So at there is never an excuse to be bare chested in an underground car park so at any time of the year i will experience the physical sensation of nudity in an underground car park if i'm bare chested what the fuck am i talking about i'm i'm in danger of going on a tangent now about modesty and propriety and car parks. But, yeah, masks. When I take my mask home,

then I wash it. I wash it in soapy water. I rinse it thoroughly. And I dry it on the radiator. And what I find fascinating about that then is you've got this virus that's stopping the whole world and the one thing that you can actually rely upon is just plain old soap because the virus has a fatty outer layer and you put soap on it or a detergent and it will kill it instantly if it's on a surface. Something as simple as soap.

And I'm fascinated by the humility of that because soap is one of those things that it dates back years and years in human society. It's one of these things we discovered by accident. It's soap like if soap is basically if you get a fat or an oil and you mix it with a caustic or alkaline substance it creates soap like humans weren't always settled humans didn't always live in villages and towns in in a settled community. Long before that, humans were just continually on the move in a hunter-gatherer lifestyle where they chased animals or wild plants to forage, which meant continual moving. Only when humans figured out farming did they decide,

OK, let's stay here and grow some wheat and then we don't have to move or we can raise some cows but for years and years before that people just moved around the gaff and soap which it's one of these technological and it's weird referring to soap as technology but it is soap is technology soap 30-40 thousand years ago soap was like an iPhone it was like an airplane you know and how humans discovered soap pure fucking

accident so hunter gatherer humans 40,000 years ago maybe longer what humans used to do is, if a human tribe was lucky, they would catch an animal to eat, and that might be the only meat that they eat in like four or five fucking months.

So let's just say a group of hunter-gatherer humans, about 30, 40 people, capture a deer. Well, they want to eat the deer, and they want to cook it, so they'd find a cooking spot that was very very close to a stream or to a river because they need to drink they need water to drink and to wash themselves or whatever so what would happen is that the humans would set up a fire and the fire would be quite close to the river.

And then on the fire they cook the deer or the wild boar or whatever animal it is. And then the deer would cook, but all the fat would drip from the body of the deer into the ashes of the fire, into the ashes of the deer into the ashes of the fire into the ashes of the wood so the next morning what you'd be left with were all these wood ashes and bits of burnt wood that were soaked in fat now the site of the fire is close to the river when you get wood ashes and you soak them in water it produces a substance called lye and lye is i think it's sodium what is it sodium hydroxide i think it's called it's it's a real alkaline substance so animal fat wood ashes and water basically create made it makes like soap a type of soap and what the humans would find is

when they either wash themselves in the part of the river that was near the fire near the wood ashes or wash their clothes their bodies and clothes got cleaner than if it was just water and that's how humans discovered soap and then discovered how to make soap from that but if you think of that in the context of a hunter-gatherer society all right like these people life expectancy was 30 you know people died from bacteria, viruses, pathogens, and soap could kill these things. So now they had this technology, before they even discovered farming, to wash themselves and wash themselves free of bacteria and fucking parasites and the whole shebang. In a way that water couldn't.

And it would have even sterilized the water that they were washing themselves with. If they were washing themselves with river water that contained bacteria or parasites, the wood ash soap would have sterilized to an extent that water. What did that do for human health? What did that do for the evolution of humans? What did that do for the survival of the species that were still around today? The technological advancement of soap and the wonder of soap as... Could you call it an invention? I don't know, could you call it... You can call it a discovery discovery the wonder of soap as a discovery is that

the molecules of soap right it's like it's shaped like like a little pin and one end of the molecule bonds with water and then the other end of the molecule

bonds with oils and fats, so it means it's really, really soluble in water, and it rips apart fats and oils, and this thing, this soap, would have been a huge discovery and improvement, to human health many, many years ago, and here we are in 2020 with this virus

and the right now even though we're waiting for a vaccine the greatest tool we have against it on surfaces is hunter-gatherer technology stone age technology a cotton fucking mask and soap but let's take it back again. We'll say to 30, 40 thousand years ago. To. This. Group of humans. Who one day discover.

Soap. And they figure out. I think I know what happened here. It's the wood ashes. It's the water. And when I wash myself here. I'm suddenly clean. And then everyone joins in, and then they start doing it more and more, and they

start collecting the wood ashes. This particular group of humans, there's probably 150 of them. The reason I say 150 is there's a thing known as Dunbar's number it was suggested by an anthropologist called Robin Dunbar and Dunbar's number is it's the cognitive limit to how many humans, one human can, 150

you can know and care about 150 people that's the limit, the human brain that's how many friends you can actually have to care about 150 people that's the limit the human brain that's how many friends you can actually have to care about it 150 chimpanzees can have 30 humans can do 150 anything beyond 150 it becomes difficult interestingly it's also the average number of friends that people have on facebook and instagram and twitter so that's also suggested as probably the amount of people, the maximum amount of people that would have been in a hunter-gatherer tribe.

Now, like I said, when humans discovered farming, then they started to live in villages and towns with numbers larger than that. But with the hunter-gatherer tribe, let's say 150. So this 150 tribe of humans who are travelling around the gaff, who've now discovered soap and are actively engaging in making soap and have the technology, this group has the technology of soap. Imagine what that would do to this group of 150 people over the course of a year. They're not getting sick as much as other humans. They're not susceptible to parasites, to certain bacteria. They might be washing their teeth with the soap. They've got healthier teeth. Because less and less people are getting sick, there's more people in the group. Because less people are getting sick, the group as a whole is healthier.

They're catching more animals. They're foraging better. They're eating better. Now the group of humans, this tribe that has discovered SOAP technology, after a year or two, are simply, visibly, better looking humans. simply visibly better looking humans if this group of 150 with soap technology meet a group of humans that doesn't have soap technology the group that doesn't have soap technology will view the soap humans as just being incredible like who the fuck are these lads? Why are they so clean? Why are they so strong?

Why is their hair healthy? Why do they have so many resources? Why are they so big? Why is there so many of them? The survival of this group has now been enhanced by the technology of soap and the group on the outside are going to start getting freaked out. Also, the group of humans who have soap technology

are going to be incredibly aware of the benefits that it's bringing them, the fact that it's making them stronger. They're going to be in competition with the weaker groups who don't have soap. They're going to be aware that this soap man, whatever the fuck it's doing to us, we're catching more food, we're covering more territory. They're going to be in competition so they will be guarding, they will be closely guarding the secret and technology of their soap and will most likely give it some type of religious significance because they don't

understand science and back then too people didn't have written language so often when an early society discovered what we would now call chemistry making soap is chemistry but it has a process, it has a scientific process

to do it, but in the absence of fucking written word what would often happen is soap making probably became a song or a religious ritual a religious ritual.

A religious ritual that meant you followed these exact steps so that it could be repeated. Because they didn't know it was science. But the other group, the group that don't have soap technology and are watching and wondering what the fuck is going on with these more powerful humans, they're going to start asking questions. And naturally, they're going to become paranoid so that the humans that don't have soap technology,

when they meet the soap humans, they're going to become very paranoid, they're going to think they have access to magic, and they're going to start assuming that they're plotting against them. The humans who haven't discovered soap and don't understand what it is will start hiding and watching and observing the humans that have soap technology. And they'll start seeing them all lighting bonfires. And then after the bonfire they'll notice that they all go and bathe in the water afterwards.

And because the soap humans have ascribed a religious importance to the making of soap, you know, they've made it a ritual in order to remember how to do it. They might be doing strange things. They might be doing song and dance. They might appear to be saying prayers to the fucking moon. They might be wearing weird costumes to make this soap and then the humans with no soap who are watching and they'll view it as a ritual and they'll be at a distance and then they'll wonder what the fuck are they burning in that fire and what if the group of humans that haven't

discovered soap because they don't have soap technology they're more likely to be sick they're not as healthy there might be a much higher rate of things like infant mortality within their tribe what if they then start to assume that the soap humans are stealing their children and burning them and the reason that they are so healthy and with lovely teeth and powerful and well fed is because the soap humans are stealing the children of the non-soap humans

and sacrificing them because they've seen this happen they've seen them burning things and washing in the water and then they start to develop this theory that this group of soap humans are fucking dangerous they're dangerous and they want to take over and they want to take control and they have access to some type of hidden power and they don't know what it is some type of evil hidden power that's somehow related to the disappearance of children and and they'll also

believe that the humans that have access to the soap are somehow immortal beings they won't be able to understand the cleanliness and the youthfulness and the resources and the strength and the attractiveness of these humans that have soap they they'll assume them to be, immortal beings, and they're doing something, to achieve this immortality, and, I'm just making that up, I'm just saying that, that's a plausible,

that's a plausible possibility, if 40,000 years ago, one group of humans, discovers soap, and within a year, the observable difference, in in their health and the health of their society because of soap that's going to be noticeable to another group of early humans who don't have soap and what i'm trying to get at there i'm trying to tease at the possible

evolutionary psychology origins of conspiracy theories evolutionary psychology origins of conspiracy theories the humans who haven't discovered soap who are viewing these other group of humans with soap they can't understand what the soap is because they don't know what the technology

is so they're going to start developing suspicious conspiracy theories out of sheer fear for their own survival they're scared of being eradicated by what they view as more powerful people and i'm not pulling this out of my arse i'm basing it on a paper that was published in 2018. The paper is called Conspiracy Theories, Evolved Functions and Psychological Mechanisms, which proposes a theory

about conspiracy theories. It says that we propose that people possess a functionally integrated mental system to detect conspiracies that in all likelihood has been shaped

in an ancestral human environment in which hostile coalitions, that is, conspiracies that truly existed, were a frequent cause of misery, death and reproductive loss. So this paper suggests that in early human society, meeting one group of humans meeting another group of humans and having to cooperate and meet resulted in things like betrayal it resulted in actual misery death and reproductive loss

and these real things like the way that we're instinctively scared of spiders and we're instinctively scared of snakes because in the wild our ancestors needed to be scared of these things because they really were a danger that in earliest human societies thousands and thousands of years ago when one group of humans, hunter gatherers meets

another that within the bonding that happens one group tries to fuck the other one over and in our minds is this deep deep distrust and paranoia of another group if we perceive them to be more powerful or if we don't understand their technology and me suggesting there you know taking it back 40,000 years ago you've one group with soap really clean really healthy vibrant looking desirable people living longer healthy children and then you have another group who don't have this and they don't understand what's happening and and they you know they think

they're doing rituals and they're stealing our children. That's why our children are dying. They're stealing the children. They're burning them on pyres. And this is where they get this youth and this vibrancy from. Like right now in 2020, one of the most popular and dangerous conspiracy theories online is there's one called QAnon. And QAnon is like this it's mainly spread on Facebook it's this huge huge conspiracy theory that is it's mainstream it's really really mainstream it's not fringe you know your aunt or your uncle might be believing this shit it's where the anti-mask

stuff comes from it it's kind of picked from all different conspiracy theories and united them under one very digestible umbrella but one branch of QAnon straight up they believe that people in Hollywood actors and actresses who are incredibly good looking healthy looking, people who are

maybe in their 50s and 60s but they look like they're in their 40s there's a legit conspiracy theory right now that these people are making face cream from the ground up foreskins of children and they're getting child's foreskin face cream

and they're rubbing it into their faces and this is giving them eternal youth now what if I told you that bit was actually true this is where it gets messy yes

there is very expensive face creams out there that use a stem cell technology and part of the ingredients are literally from the foreskins of babies. That's a thing. And

Oprah was selling it. And if you've listened to a previous podcast that I did, I also uncovered this is where it gets murky. Like some shit is conspiracy, some shit isn't. Oprah does promote a line of face creams that you can directly and this isn't conspiracy world promote a line of face creams that you can directly

and this isn't conspiracy world this is real the CIA have a company I've done podcasts on it called In-Q-Tel which is where a lot of

the black budget goes into and In-Q-Tel fund they're like a private fund that funds companies so there are

skin creams in existence for real that use the foreskins of children for stem cell stuff I'm assuming they're sourced ethically but then as well

there are face cream products out there funded by In-Q-Tel the CIA which are essentially a way to harvest the genetic DNA of people it's a way to, you buy this face cream and it's called Clearista. You can look it up. Clearista, it's funded by In-Q-Tel.

In-Q-Tel are basically the CIA. And Clearista is a face cream that's touted by Oprah, who's a billionaire. And what Clearista will do is that it's a face cream that is kind of made specifically for your skin but in order for it to be that accurate it needs your genetic data and then your genetic data is then given to the cia as a database that shit's real this is why conspiracy theories get murky because some shit you go oh oh fuck, that's actually pretty freaky and concerning. And it's actually happening. But then you get the other side. So because the waters are murky, QAnon believe, okay,

that the wealthiest billionaires in the world essentially have eternal youth because they're harvesting a chemical called adrenochrome. Now this shit isn't real. Adrenochrome is a real thing but what I'm about to tell you now this isn't real. They believe that the wealthiest people in the world are involved in the trafficking of children, that they're torturing sexually torturing young children and traumatizing them and then extracting this adrenochrome from them in these satanic rituals to make themselves immortal now that's a conspiracy theory but is that that's not the plausible historical situation that I laid out 40,000 years ago with one human

group discovering soap and the others not and one group being really healthy and having a lot of resources and then the other group assuming that they're stealing children and all this it's not that far off what's happening right now except you know what's going on right

now why are there massive amounts of people on facebook who genuinely believe that the wealthiest people in the world are injecting themselves with a chemical that can only be gotten from from satanic child sacrifices I mean for me it's 40,000 years ago you have 150 people on one side with more resources and this new technology and then you have another group who doesn't have it now we're living in 2020

what I'm seeing there is it's our stone age brain reacting to the rise of the 1% billionaires there's more billionaires now than there's ever been the divide between the super ultra rich and the poor is fucking massive and yes

Hollywood celebrities look very fucking young and they look fantastic but it's because they have greater access to resources they have greater access to nutrition, plastic surgery the latest in fucking skin care technology

and also editing but we have this batshit conspiracy theory which is rooted in antisemitism it's absolutely you look at the history of this child sacrifice shit go back thousands of years you'll see it's all always goes back to jewish people the foreskin stuff is this paranoia about uh you know within judaism when the child is

circumcised at birth it's all toxically manipulated by right wing forces who are anti-semitic but ultimately what I'm trying to get at the hot take I'm trying to get the evolutionary origins it's depressing when we're seeing a lot of it now with the pandemic

when your aunt, uncle, brother uncle brother your father your mother presents you with this batshit fucking fear that they have and you're saying ma what are you doing why are you on facebook who told you this or da who told you this for people who are are rational and who aren't getting sucked into this it's very painful and hurtful to see someone you love get drawn into anti-mask stuff. The belief that the coronavirus is created in a laboratory, that it's all part of this huge global plan to enslave us. This belief that wearing masks are about ushering in an era of compliance. It's troubling and worrying and it can leave us feeling numb.

And what I want to do is I want to try and get some catharsis around it by understanding the human origins of why this shit exists. And for me and you to try and as well maintain a degree of criticality. Because like I just said, yes, face creams exist that are made from the foreskins of babies. It's called stem cell technology. You can probably source where the foreskins are coming from. I'm guessing they're discarded foreskins from babies that are getting circumcised and it's ethically

traced and sourced and yes the CIA are funding a fucking skin care company that Oprah sells which is as far as I can see a data harvesting a genetic data harvesting program and that shit's real

and we have to maintain our criticality to go that there is abuse of human rights and it's abuse of data and things like that but it's not sacrificing children in some type of

satanic shit I mean these people, the QAnon also believes that the world is run by a race of lizards they believe that the most powerful people in the world are reptiles lizards from space

interdimensional shape shifting lizards the world is run by very powerful fucking alien reptiles who need the blood sacrifice of children and they don't look like reptiles because they can operate within frequencies and ship shift into the form of humans and people fucking believe this your uncle is talking about it on facebook now and he won't bow down to the interdimensional

shape-shifting lizards and this is why he won't wear a face mask in tesco this is real okay and you want to take that back i had eddie lenehan the folklorist on this podcast about six or seven podcasts back he was telling me about irish superstition and traditions listen to how the irish folklore going back a thousand years describes the fairies the fairies in irish mythology were a strange race that you can't understand and what do fairies look like fairies take the shape of humans or animals and they steal babies this shit's just getting fucking repeated we had it in Irish folklore

changelings, it's all there, it's just now they're interdimensional shape shifting lizards, it's archetypal it's an archetype it's the it's human psychology going right back to the soap 40,000 years ago.

And where it gets difficult for me too then is, you know, if I'm arguing with someone and they're bringing up conspiracy theories and they're saying the elite of the world are involved in sex cults and they're sacrificing children, how do I then turn around and say that's ridiculous when I know that that Jeffrey Epstein shit is real okay

Jeffrey fucking Epstein had a private island where powerful people went and children were abused and that's we know that happened alright the whole world has their eyes on that so then how do you turn around to the person and say And that's, we know that happened. Alright, the whole world has their eyes on that. So then how do you turn around to the person and say,

what you think is complete bullshit. Because you have this utter nugget of something that's actually deeply fucking wrong and troubling and worrying. And what I have to do with it for my criticality I take it back to the soap I imagine myself on the other side of the river not having soap technology observing the other humans with the soap doing some weird shit and I don't think that on Jeffrey Epstein's island there was ritualistic sacrifice where people were

shape shifting into lizards and Satan was appearing I don't believe that that's the viewpoint when you can't understand what soap is but I want to understand what the soap is and the soap is power

and money so what on Epstein's island what you soap is and the soap is power and money so what on Epstein's Island what you have is incredible amounts of power, money arrogance, that's what you have and from that you get abuse

and that's the soap that they have but I don't want to get caught up in the smoke and mirrors I don't think that they're lizards even fucking making this argument you know even making this argument do you know what I mean it's

you have to be concerned like right now in Ireland right now in Ireland in 2014 the skeletons of 800 babies right now in Ireland, in 2014, the skeletons of 800 babies were found, thrown into a septic tank in Galway.

And this was done by the Catholic Church, by the nuns in the mother and baby homes. Okay? And the Catholic Church had this huge institutional abuse in Ireland

and they threw 800 little babies into a septic tank. And QAnon will look at that because they draw all the Catholic Church into this and say, oh, Satan worship, Satan worship. And we can't go there. We have to go. No, this horrible thing happened. And this is what happened. This is what happens when there's a huge, huge imbalance of power.

When there is a huge imbalance of power, you end up with 800 babies in a septic tank and those nuns didn't have to be lizards shifting between dimensions in order for that to happen. What you simply have is a lot of power and no accountability and abuse of power you don't need the supernatural there you have the very honest and real failure of humanity

you have corruption the failure of humanity when presented with absolute power and no accountability bad shit happens every time and on that subject as well an investigation into those uh those 800 babies that were found an investigation was launched into that which was called the mother and baby homes commission of investigation right now the ir Irish government are basically trying to lock away the findings of that investigation for 30 years. Okay, it's a bit murky. So that's not right.

We deserve to know what happened. And we need we deserve to know the systems of power and abuses that happened for 800 babies to end up in a septic tank in Galway. Those babies are human beings who have living relatives who need to find out what happened to their relatives or if they're buried in unmarked graves. And for it to be locked away, the information for 30 years, that's fucked up. Someone's trying to be really sneaky

and someone is trying to protect institutions or people who were involved in the abuse of power. So, look up at jfmresearch.com and the article you're looking for is Argent Mother and Baby Homes Commission Archive Justice for Magdalene Research. Go on to that and there's a link to email your TDs and senators to say to them

no you're not locking away this information for 30 years to protect people if you go to rubber bandits facebook my facebook page it's the top post and here I am trying to rally against conspiracy theories while also telling you legitimate shit that is in the realm of conspiracy theory

and all I have to say to you is like I don't believe anyone in the government is a giant shape-shifting lizard I think it's abuse of power I'm imagining myself as the hunter-gatherer watching the soap ritual and i have to say to myself the devil isn't involved here it's something simpler than that and we can only be the change if we're looking for that simplicity you can't start talking about lizards. You can't start talking about interdimensional shape-shifting lizards.

Like, I sound like, I'm trying to make a really measured argument and I sound like a lunatic doing it. That's how fucked up this conspiracy theory shit is. And it's part of why it's so dangerous. It attacks the very nature of rationality and logic. And to take it back to the riverbed 40,000 years ago, you're watching the soap ritual. And it comes down to two very simple things.

Do you want the truth or do you want the most interesting story? And the observers who are saying they're doing a satanic ritual, they're stealing our children, they're burning our children and this is giving them eternal youth. That's really, really interesting and really engaging. And it's got narrative and it's got everything you want out of a good story. And it has intrigue. That's the conspiracy theory

or do you want to find out what they're actually doing is the fat from the animal is mixing with the wood ashes that mixes with the water and it makes them really clean and because they're clean they're not getting sick and then they're healthy that's boring

that's boring there's no wonder there do you know what i mean but the scientific paper i cited earlier says that because of a history of death and pain and misery that our ancestors going back hundreds of thousands of years because coalitions with other humans often resulted in very bad things happening and it became evolutionarily advantageous for human beings to become very paranoid, very, very paranoid and to search for the supernatural

as a way to protect ourselves, to not look for the logical and instead to be mad paranoid and come up with these crazy crazy ideas to benefit the survival of the group that doesn't have the soap so i've got more to say about this conspiracy theory theory shit um it's time for a pause it's time for a pause so you can get an advert because that was a big long rant I went on, but I'm not finished with the hot takes. Let's have a little instrumental pause now

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So word of mouth is how it spreads. But thank you very much, lads. Back to the conspiracy cunts. So the paranoia of conspiracy theories, it's also... There is that evolutionary origin, but it's a way, too, to feel... If you're...

the group of humans 40,000 years ago without soap, and you're jealous and envious and fearful and worried about the group that do have soap and you don't understand their power you don't understand what's going on developing this narrative about them stealing your children or worshipping Satan

or all this stuff it gives you a sense of power and control over something you really don't understand, over chaos. All right? A new group of fucking incredibly healthy humans show up and you don't know why they have this.

That throws your world into chaos. It's threatening. And we live in a time of chaos, right? And there's a fucking pandemic and half the world is on fire. And there's a lot of scary things happening. Alright? It's quite chaotic right now.

Lots of shit is chaotic. Politically, ecologically, pandemically. It's chaotic. And finding a nice, clear, interesting narrative within the anxiety of all of that is going to redress the balance of power, the imbalance of power that you feel. The QAnon conspiracy is the ultimate

and contemporary example of this. We're also drifting away from, you know, we're post post-modernism now into meta-modernism one of the tenets of the modernist age was these grand narratives of right or wrong society in the 60s you had the wonderful big right and wrong of fucking cold war the wonderful big right and wrong of fucking cold war the soviets are bad communism is bad capitalism is good america is good and the west is good and the soviets are bad and you have to view everything through the lens of this great moral battle between east and west and that's terrifying because the world nearly came to fucking nuclear war but at least it's simple and with post-modernism this type

of shit started to break down and now with the internet it's really broken down to the point that we can't identify an objective truth. In the 80s as well under the Reagan era that was a great time for these grand simple narratives of right or wrong. Under

Reagan and Thatcher obviously you had the Cold War was ending it was on the way out communism bad capitalism good they needed to start finding new things to create very simple right or wrong narratives that were given from the

centre of power all the way down they started to choose the war on drugs, drugs are awful, everything bad is happening because of drugs, and, fighting drugs is the good thing, there's a simple narrative,

crime, crime became a huge thing in the 80s, the mafia were the thing, you had these simple narratives, even the fucking war on terror, the war on terror post 9-11 but see here's the difference between the war on crime and the war on drugs and the war

on terror the war on drugs, drugs are a thing, they're a commodity, they're a product you stop them being made and imported, now then you want to get into it, the fucking CIA man, the CIA are responsible for half of the drugs we're going down a rabbit hole

drugs are objective okay good and bad, there's a bunch of drugs, don't take them, they're bad they'll fuck your shit up, let's fund stopping the production and import of drugs and smugglers and drug dealers very simple, right and wrong

message coming from the top down with that simplicity you have a comfort drugs gangs were still scary to people the thought of drugs were still scary but you have a comfort in the simplicity of the narrative the grand narrative of it with crime the same thing crime is done by criminals. You lock them up in jail. Right? You see that with New York in the 80s. The mafia, Rudy Giuliani trying to clean the fucking place up. Tree strike laws, all that shit.

The war on terror. Now you've got a fucking... Terror is an idea. Terror is an idea. You can blame Al-Qaeda. The war on terror is when it started getting murky because terror is a war on an idea and that's harder to understand. But let's take it back to the 80s

and a very simple one, New York. New York is full of muggings and crime and the mafia and crime gangs and drugs. Simple right and wrong. There's a comfort in that. Then Rudy Giuliani was a good friend of Trump's. They quote unquote cleaned up New York.

They infiltrated the mafia. The mafia stopped being a thing at about the 90s. They really took them apart. The mafia in America, in New York, the five families stopped being a thing in the 90s they really took them apart the mafia in in america and new york the five families stopped being a thing in the 90s and people stopped fucking kind of thinking about them or worrying about them like in the 1980s there was a huge mafia war in new york and a lot of

people died and the people of new york were frightened and scared and then last year 2019 after years and years and years of the mafia in New York being really really quiet the boss like the mafia in New York is run by the five families

the five mafia families of New York who are kind of together in a business arrangement and this arrangement prevents wars. And wars rarely happen. The last one was the 80s, as I mentioned. So then in 2019, the boss of the Gambino crime family, which is John Gotti.

John Gotti was a huge mobster in New York in the 80s. His crime family, one of the five families of New York, the boss of the gambino crime family is shot dead in 2019 in staten island and the police in new york start freaking out we haven't seen a fucking high profile mafia murder in new york since the 80s and now the head the one of the sorry he was one of the bosses of the Gambino crime family is shot dead

in Staten Island oh fuck because the last time that happened it started a huge war in the 80s so they're going oh fuck the mafia are back

the head of a family has been shot shit's gonna kick off and then they arrest the suspect and the suspect. And the suspect has nothing to do with the mafia whatsoever. He's a 24 year old called Anthony Camelo.

And this unknown 24 year old who's not connected with the mafia has no crime connections shot dead the leader of the Gambino crime family. And then they bring him in for fucking questioning. Now, I don't think the lad's been sentenced yet, but I believe... I don't think he's been sentenced yet, but he's the main suspect.

And they say to him, why did you shoot the head of the Gambino crime family? Now, they're expecting he's in the mob, he owes a debt. Your man turns around and he says, well, the CIA have infiltrated the mafia and I'm being spied upon by satellites. And then they said, go on. Well, the mafia have actually been infiltrated by the deep state who are a liberal cabal that are trying to work against president trump and the police in new york are scratching their fucking heads like who is this cunt who's this young fella who's after shooting the gambino crime boss what's he talking about the cia and the deep state and the mafia and

trump what the fuck is this guy talking about and then the suspect anthony camillo has his first court hearing and when he's in court he holds up his hand and on his hand he's drawn a massive Q and this lad has basically been radicalised by the QAnon conspiracy

theory this fucking Oprah with the face creams and the fucking foreskins of children and the interdimensional shapeshifting lizards now you've got a young man 25 clearly has mental illness issues from some of the things I'm hearing him saying

who believes QAnon who's been on Facebook non-stop and now he's after killing the fucking head of the Gambino mafia family because he thinks they've been infiltrated by the CIA and the deep state so as far as I know it's an ongoing trial so I don't want to go any more into into the details of it you can read about it yourself but what interests me about it and why I'm relating it back to grand narratives now this is me going extreme hot take I don't know

much about Italian Americans I don't know much about Italian Americans, I don't know much about Italian American culture what I can tell you about Staten Island Staten Island is like one of the last, parts of the Bronx and Staten Island, one of the last real working class Italian American communities and the only

thing I can relate it to to bring a bit of myself into it is I'm guessing the mafia in those communities probably would represent something similar to what maybe the the IRA and republicanism represents in terms of male masculinity in Ireland okay I'm assuming that in these somewhere like Staten Island or parts of the Bronx where the mafia historically were looked up to in the community by young men as these powerful figures that narrative starts to disappear and then within that chaos you lose a sense of meaning similarly what we see

there's q anon adherents in ireland who believe that the troubles in ireland as it's called the war in the north of ireland believe that the ira were like a deep state plot quote unquote the jews anytime anyone says that shit what they're referring it's a far right shit it refers were like a deep state plot quote unquote the Jews anytime anyone says that shit it's a far right shit it refers to the Jewish people but it's been posited recently in Ireland that the Troubles was like

this staged act by globalist powers and had nothing to do with republicanism it's this staged act and you have this lad now over in staten island who shot the head of the gambino family last year because he believes that the mafia is infiltrated by the deep state and these powerful forces which all goes to interdimensional shapeshifting lizards which most people believe is just a code word for Jewish people. These are all anti...

None of this shit is new. This is all anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. I'm looking for the bar of soap. I'm looking for the boring fat of the animal mixing with the wood ashes and the water to create soap. That's what I'm looking for here. And what I see... up that's what I'm looking for here and what I see

is it's grand narratives disappearing the simple moral tale disappearing the simplicity like I said Reaganite America mafia bad mafia crime is bad

they must be taken down good citizens are afraid of the mafia very simple moralistic tale a binary tale of right and wrong which also within a community like that it can mean those men are the strong men you can aspire to be that or you cannot aspire to be in the mafia and you can aspire to be something else if you're an italian american you can become rudy gugliani who's the mayor of new york at the time simple right and wrong narratives that are disappearing as we enter the meta modern age with the internet and that gives you a sense of chaos and from that chaos and lack of understanding

the hot taker in me who was looking for the soap what was that young man looking for certainty striving for the certainty of the old narrative of

right and wrong mafia mafia bad police good and this new world of all the in-betweens are seeing the mafia lose power somehow

that's what set him off on this irrational conspiracy vibe where he thinks the mafia are being controlled by lizards similarly if I see that stuff being said in Ireland vibe where he thinks the mafia are being controlled by lizards similarly if I see that stuff being said in Ireland about you know the IRA

are infiltrated by the deep state the IRA was a puppet organisation set up by fucking a Jewish cabal or interdimensional lizards it's the same thing you're losing the grand narrative you're losing meaning

so to kind of get to the the end of my hot take I want to talk about QAnon which is the the umbrella conspiracy theory that's taking over the world right now I don't want to get into too much detail of it

because it's fucking boring. If you have half a fucking... I won't say a brain, that's not fair. If you have the ability to think critically... I'm university educated, alright? I've had the benefit of going to university to fucking learn in what research is, understanding critical thinking knowing what what

a trustworthy source is and what an untrusty trustworthy source is when i look at this shit it's it's hilarious i couldn't believe any of it it's so fucking ridiculous there's so many holes but not everybody has that benefit has has has not everybody has the privileges that I had, so it's spreading through Facebook, and what makes this conspiracy theory, unique, is how it exploits the Facebook algorithm, to reach so many disparate groups, so,

it reaches, you know, the person who's into crystal healing and yoga and into angel readings and all this kind of harmless stuff usually that tends to be um a kind of you tend to associate that with with women you know they're more kind of female pursuits, that type of interest. Crystal healing, yoga, angel readings, all this stuff. I'm not saying it's only women. I'm just saying it tends to have horoscopes. So this side of Facebook, who were into these ultimately harmless things,

all of a sudden started getting targeted with anti-vax. Don't vaccinate your child vaccination causes autism all this type of stuff and they're being targeted by this and then they get drawn into the q anon side of things then you have the other stuff which is kind of harmless ufos bigfoot traditional conspiracy theory stuff and they're being targeted by QAnon stuff as well and what it's done it's united people who are skeptics

about harmless stuff and drawn them via the algorithm into the same groups, into the same echo chambers whereas now the person who's harmlessly interested in horoscopes or yoga is now thinking about anti-vax now coronavirus is planned it's a plandemic from china people who are into ufos all of a sudden now are being sold very anti-semitic things and it just goes with this

pyramid of essentially QAnon is the global elite are paedophiles who worship Satan and lizards are involved and this is the core of it because you're kind of wondering who's doing it and why

who benefits multiple people are driving this alright people let's just say call it Russia but it's not just Russia anymore it's anyone any nation who

is interested in western democracies EU fucking America whoever anyone foreign interest who wants western democracies to be weakened is very interested in promoting QAnon because what it does is

it creates chaos it creates chaos and uncertainty and then that destabilises and weakens democracy and society so those people have an interest in QAnon ultimately who benefits with q anon donald fucking trump all right simple as that here's the core belief of q anon and what it is q anon believe that q is donald trump don Donald Trump is called Q.

And they believe that Clintons and the Democrats are part of this huge international sex trafficking, child sacrificing cabal that wants to enslave the earth and enslave the world. Interdimensional lizards, anti-Semitism. They believe that the refugee crisis is made up by a cabal of Jewish people and lizards. They believe that global warming

and the climate crisis is manufactured to get us scared. They believe that coronavirus is a manufactured virus. That it's all designed to control and coerce us into being slaves for these giant lizards. Which

is just a little code word for Jewish people. Even talking about it I sound fucking mad and I'm trying to argue against it. It's crazy alright but they believe that

Donald Trump is a fella called Q and they believe that what Trump is doing is that Trump is president of the United States and what Trump is doing is that while he is president he's finding all the secrets about child sex trafficking about all the shit that

they believe all these conspiracy theories they believe that donald trump is anonymously leaking them to the fucking internet and that's what it is so their ultimate goal of q anon is to keep donald trump in power and that's explicit Donald Trump must be kept in power because he is Q and he will leak all the information to us and you look at any QAnon stuff it's all Trump Trump Trump

and they believe it you must get Trump in fucking power and he must stay in power and which to me suggests that there's the same people who were working for Trump, who did all that Cambridge Analytica shit, they're probably as well heavily invested

in pushing this QAnon thing. Because you look at who benefits. Donald Trump benefits from QAnon. Massively. And the model that's being used, it's clever, it's very fucking clever, but it's dangerous, and I haven't seen it done before.

What they've done is they've borrowed from Scientology, and they've borrowed from box set TV shows. These are the two things which exist in the zeitgeist of culture that have been appropriated into the framework of what QAnon is. Okay?

How do I explain this? Scientology, first of all, if you look, Scientology operated by having different levels of secrets about Scientology that get revealed to you as you climb the ranks of Scientology. That's what kept people about Scientology that get revealed to you as you climb the ranks of Scientology. That's what kept people in Scientology. Climb the ranks, get to the top and you earn and

learn more secrets, right? QAnon does that. What QAnon also does is it's episodic content, like an episode of Game of Thrones it's cliffhangers so all the QAnon stuff is basically Trump is leaking us all these things all these secrets and they're waiting for the next secret

it's a bit like freemium gaming as well I'm looking at the things within culture that echo the structure of this and to see why it's working and why it's operating as a type of addiction. Keep Donald Trump must be re-elected. Why? Because if he's not, we won't find out what happens next season.

That's it. That's it. It's entertainment. They're after giving us Epstein. They're after giving us Epstein. They're after giving us this. They're giving us the UFOs. Next step is the lizards. We need the lizards.

We need to see a lizard. And if you don't get Donald Trump in power because he is Q then the deep state will win and then we no longer have a Q in power. To leak. The lizards. And that's the framework of how it works.

It's like freemium gaming. It never ends. It's the box set. It's what happens next season. It's the structure of fucking Scientology. Layered information being revealed to you you as you go to the top and this is why too you know

the anti-mask protesters in Ireland like which is infiltrated massively by the far right I mean that's another like what QAnon is doing too is it's taking like I said people who are interested in harmless shit.

Like UFOs or crystal healing. Or fucking angel readings or Bigfoot. And it's putting these people into a culture where essentially you're talking about some pretty fucking hardcore racist anti-Semitic stuff. You know? you're talking about some pretty fucking hardcore racist anti-semitic stuff you know um all under the guise of save the children save the children the simple simple moral message of save the children they're all pedophiles save the children and if you don't disagree if you don't agree with this you must be a pedophile and that's why when you see anti-mask protesters in Ireland they're screaming pedo scum off our street and you're wondering I thought you didn't want to wear masks what are you talking about pedophiles for I thought this was a protest because there's

mandatory masks and your masks are uncomfortable and you don't want to wear and you think the coronavirus isn't fake why are you talking about paedophiles and that's why they're talking about paedophiles it's an umbrella it's this mad new religion that is emerging from the

uncertainty and chaos of our present reality and what I do is I embrace the chaos I embrace the uncertainty and chaos of our present reality and what I do is I embrace the chaos I embrace the chaos and suffering suffering is an inevitable part of human existence and it will pass and I embrace it and I stare it straight down and I notice it and I look at it and I don't react to it

and I don't ignore my suffering to the point that I'm entertaining irrational paranoid thoughts alright I'll be back next week I don't know what the fuck I'm going to be talking about next week I enjoyed that podcast I hope it wasn't too fucking heavy for you

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and I'm here ranting into a microphone till five in the fucking morning in a in a dystopian neon dungeon with a bag on my head so

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