The Blindboy Podcast - Punch us Pilots

Episode Date: September 16, 2020

A parasite that causes snails to masturbate uncontrollably and how Ireland legalised drugs for 24 hours and I took ecstasy on live radio Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Brandish the barn dance marshmallow you dreary teeness Welcome to the Blind Boy Podcast What's the crack? If you're a new listener, if you're a brand new lovely delicious listener then go back to an earlier episode go back to one around the start
Starting point is 00:00:21 they're not sequential I just want you to take a little swim I want you to take a little swim. I want you to take a little swim in the shallows, get your toes wet before you go right into the deep end and start listening from here. It's foolish to start listening from here anyway. This episode is for seasoned, dreary teenies.
Starting point is 00:00:41 You need to start off as a sweaty Kevin before you can graduate to the position of dreary teenie. you need to start off as a sweaty Kevin before you can graduate to the position of dreary tina. It's like Scientology. But for the dreary teenas who are listening right now, this week's podcast is a hot take podcast. But it's so hot. It's molten lava weeping from the devil's rectum hot okay it's bizarre and the take is so hot that i'm gonna make i'm gonna make the decision the decision is sometimes when you're telling a story you begin with the ending okay the story begins with a parasite that causes snails to masturbate uncontrollably. And the story ends with me taking ecstasy live on Irish radio. And in the middle of all that, I think I can give you a new understanding or definition of what God is.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Okay? Last Friday I embarked on some socially distanced pints, which were fantastic. Alright? I went to... My buddy was down to do some writing with me. We went to two pubs. Did it in a very ethical, responsible fashion.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Sat down. Pints were delivered to us, full mask compliance, washing the hands, not touching our face, doing everything. You know, being mindful of my distance to other human beings. of pints and got nice and merry and had fun and conversation and human interaction while maintaining complete safety within health guidelines which i was very pleased at myself because that becomes difficult once drink is on board but i think i have the shit sorted and to be honest it all comes down to if you go into a pub and the staff immediately exude a kind of a sense of care and professionalism that creates the atmosphere where no one fucks around no one was getting off off their seat everyone was sitting down drinks were brought to them if you go to the toilet you put on your mask happy times and it was good for me because I haven't had kind of conversational stimulation with another person in about six months all right I've been
Starting point is 00:03:16 speaking to people but mainly about business and shit like that but I haven't had fun I haven't had fun chats and the first time I had that there was this weekend and the benefit of fun like I'm a very introverted person I don't spend a huge amount of time around people but quarantine and coronavirus has made me realize that the small bit of time that I do spend with people just having the crack is essential for my creative process it's like it's what tickles my brain it's what tickles and shakes my brain
Starting point is 00:03:49 and excites me and then when I leave that space it's like my head is a fucking jar and when my jar head isn't being shaken with interactions with other human beings then all the ideas float down to the bottom as a sediment so I need someone to shake up that sediment so that I can grab new ideas so that's what this Friday was like for me so I had a lovely
Starting point is 00:04:18 rich weekend of thinking about things my My curiosity was returning. So I'm very happy. I'm a happy camper. I'll be honest. But I went into overdrive. And I started. I started pondering a new theory of reality. That I want to share with you right.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Now I'm not saying it's. I'm not saying this is the truth. I haven't found some new fucking. Religious outlook on life. I just have a theory of reality that jumped into my head this weekend and it all started because so if you've looked at the news
Starting point is 00:04:58 they announced this week that they may have found signs of life on Venus they found the presence of phosphine gas in the atmosphere of Venus They announced this week that they may have found signs of life on Venus. Okay? They found the presence of phosphine gas in the atmosphere of Venus. And this is the strongest sign yet that scientists have gotten to suggest. Holy fuck, there might be life there. We can't think of any other reason that phosphine gas would exist in the atmosphere of Venus
Starting point is 00:05:24 other than that being produced by would exist in the atmosphere of venus other than that being produced by some life form okay and in all my years on the planet this is the closest that we've seen to there might be life and my first reaction it wasn't like my first reaction wasn't it wasn't like, my first reaction wasn't bemusement or fascination or excitement. All these things you'd associate with scientists saying there might be life on Venus. You know, in all of human existence.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Like, we have been, how long have modern humans been around for? Us, proper homo sapiens, people exactly like you and me, 50,000 years on this planet. Okay, 50,000 years for modern human beings. When I saw that there might be life on Venus, my reaction was, no, not now, not in 2020, man. No, not in 2020. You're taking the piss. If we find aliens in 2020
Starting point is 00:06:27 even if they're microbes no. Not having it. Not 2020. Because 2020 has been fucking mad. There's a global pandemic. Our entire lives have changed completely. San Francisco is bright orange
Starting point is 00:06:44 because of climate change. Trees in the west of America are exploding. There's riots all over America. The president of America told people to drink bleach because he heard that cures the virus that's causing the pandemic. In July the Pentagon released a lot of footage of UFOs from its pilots from from US Air Force pilots and then a member of the Pentagon said we have been looking at spacecraft that are quote-unquote not of this earth the British government came out and said it intends to violate international law so every one of those things would define a year but news is getting madder
Starting point is 00:07:29 and madder on a weekly basis just the past 24 hours alone the irish government released its five-point plan for living with the coronavirus they had one job the job was be concise with the important information about people's health. And instead of being concise, they were like, here's our five point plan. One, two, three, four, five. Currently, Dublin is on level two and a bit. So they gave us a superposition between two and three. It's like, here's a five point plan.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Level one, level two, level three level four, level five different levels of severity and reactions and then when someone says where's Dublin they go two and a bit and then a half an hour later the government is dissolved because the minister for health thinks he has coronavirus and the entire government has to self isolate
Starting point is 00:08:21 for 14 fucking days that's just the past 24 hours madness you couldn't write it it's like a racist 19th century english caricature about how incompetently bizarre irish people are and that's just the past 24 hours so the news in 2020 is just mad consistently consistently mind-boggling. If Bill Clinton told people to drink bleach in 1996 from the podium of the presidency, it would be the biggest story of the year.
Starting point is 00:08:54 It's that simple, rather than something that was just a story for a week. But when I saw the news, clearest signs of life on another planet yet, my reaction was, no way. If they give this to us in 2020, if we get aliens, if that's the story, is there's aliens, then something bigger is at play regarding the fabric of what reality is.
Starting point is 00:09:26 So I'm going to give you my little hot take. And I'm not saying this is true. This is just my confused and anxious brain trying to search for a sense of meaning and a sense of narrative. But I'm going to share with you my theory and I'm going to try and back it up with evidence along the way if I can. So in the Amazon rainforest, right, there's this species of ant called Camponotus leonardi. I won't be saying that name again. So there's this species of ant in the Amazon rainforest and if you think of a rainforest
Starting point is 00:10:05 rainforests they have like canopies so you've got the tops of these really tall trees and then the middle bit and then the ground okay the ground which sees very little light and that's where all the humidity is and these ants they live in the trees and the ants go from tree to tree but sometimes in order for the ants as a colony to get from one tree to the other if they can't do it via leaves they need to go to the forest floor in order to get to the other tree okay and the forest floor is a particularly dangerous place for the ants because there's predators there and they don't like being on the forest floor they like to be up in the leaves so on the forest floor there's this fungus right and it's a parasitic fungus and what happens is when the ants have to travel this fungus attaches itself to the ants and then
Starting point is 00:11:07 it enters the brains of certain ants now the ant initially doesn't know that it's been infected with this fungus and it just carries on doing its thing within the colony of the other ants. But as the fungus enters its brain and starts to grow, it starts to take over the ant's central nervous system. And this fungus, it's colloquially known as a zombie fungus. The ant loses the ability to control itself but the other ants can't tell the difference and this fungus stretches out from its brain into its body and starts to control the ants muscles. Now the ant
Starting point is 00:11:58 has this symbiotic parasitic relationship with this fungus in its brain that's controlling the ant and telling it what to do and where to go but the other ants can't tell the difference so when the fungus finally has full control of the ant it makes the ant it steers and controls the ant to climb up the tree and go to exactly the right spot where there's just enough light just enough moisture for the fungus to grow and then it controls the ant's jaws and it gives the ant a type of a superhuman strength it gives the ant more strength than the ant should have and the fungus finally makes the ant's teeth it makes the ant grab into the side of the tree
Starting point is 00:12:49 or the side of a leaf in a death grip and the ant is stuck there and then the fungus grows out of its head like this crazy fucking antenna and the ant dies. As the fungus feasts on its body. And sends out this. Queer fucking antenna from its head.
Starting point is 00:13:12 And then once the antenna is out there. It sends spores everywhere. And infects the rest of the colony. And then all the other ants get infected with this. Parasitic zombie brain fungus. And the same thing happens to them. So it's this fungus that gets into the brains of ants and controls how they behave for the death of the colony. Now you might be wondering, why are you talking about ants, zombie ants
Starting point is 00:13:40 and funguses? What does this have to do with donald trump what does this have to do with orange san francisco what does this have to do with possible life on venus and 2020 what does it have to do with 2020 but what i'm interested in what's informing my heart take is parasitic Parasitic symbiosis. Okay. A symbiotic relationship is. It's like in an ecosystem. When. Two species. Or more than two species. Have a beneficial.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Relationship with each other. In an ecosystem. Right. But. A parasitic symbiosis. Is when. Like. A third.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Party comes in. the it kind of takes advantage of a symbiosis and it doesn't benefit the species it can be harmful that fungus that infects the ants is an example of that another example is there's this type of toxoplasma right which it can only reproduce and it can only it can only survive when it's inside a cat okay but the toxoplasma when it's in cats is utterly harmless to the cat the cat wouldn't even know it's in there and it reproduces in the cat. But the way that the toxoplasma gets into a cat in order to reproduce is the toxoplasma does it through mice. So it is harmful to mice.
Starting point is 00:15:15 So when a mouse becomes infected with this toxoplasma it takes over the mouse's behaviour and the mouse loses its fear of cats. And then the mouse who's infected with the toxoplasma, who isn't afraid of cats, gets eaten. And then the toxoplasma enters the cat's body via the eaten mouse because the mouse wasn't afraid of the cat. And now the toxoplasma gets to reproduce inside the cat.
Starting point is 00:15:40 That's a parasitic symbiotic relationship. There's a type of flatworm and this flatworm can enter the bodies of snails and when it gets into the snail's body it attacks the snail's bollocks right so it gets into the snail's testicles essentially and it removes the testicles and sends the snail into like a frenzy of wanking so the flatworm parasite is in the snail's testicles and each night the snail is like coming everywhere but what it's coming is the larvae it's the larvae of the flatworm so the snail becomes this machine for reproducing the larvae of this fucking snail right but then the larvae of the flatworm via the consistently masturbating snail gets into a pond and then the larvae infects
Starting point is 00:16:35 tadpoles and when the larvae gets into the tadpoles it causes the tadpoles to grow extra limbs and then the tadpoles grow into little frogs that have like three legs but when a little frog has three legs it all the frogs that have been infected with the snail bollock parasite those frogs with three legs they can't hop around properly and then when the birds are looking to eat little frogs they only eat the frogs that have three legs because they're the easiest to catch and now the parasite is in the stomach of the bird that just ate the frog and the bird does a shit and the parasite's in the shit and it goes back down to the ground and then it infects a snail again and starts to control its
Starting point is 00:17:22 bollocks and the cycle continues that's a symbiotic parasitic relationship in nature and i wanted to give you three examples of it just to to show you what this is this is what i'm interested in symbiotic parasitic relationships and this new theory of reality that I have. So as the news gets more extreme and more shocking and like we're 2020 and our jaws are dropping to the floor each week with like at this stage now we're in just a loop of mad news and I think for most people nothing can shock us now. Nothing can shock us. So much crazy shit has been happening. To me, it started in about 2015. The real beginning of it, to what 2016 happened, right? 2016 was bonkers.
Starting point is 00:18:18 A lot of celebrities died. It's like, David Bowie's dead. Oh, fuck. Prince is dead. Oh, boss boss George Michael like all these celebrities died in 2016 and it was like why are you fucking serious
Starting point is 00:18:31 that's too many celebrities for one year what's going on and then Trump came in and then Brexit came in and news started getting mad and it's been that way since it wasn't like this in 2010
Starting point is 00:18:45 I mean ok 9-11 was mad 9-11 was mad but there was nothing like 9-11 for a while shit started getting crazy in 2015 and really ramping up in 2016 and it's been going like that since actually no the real real tipping point
Starting point is 00:19:03 the real tipping point there was one thing isis the shit that isis were doing using using social media and creating terrorism as a social media spectacle and then when when shit flipped when shit flipped, and I'm like, I can't believe what's happening. When David Cameron fucked a pig's mouth, 2015, and you're reading the news, and it's like, we have got serious evidence here that David Cameron, the fucking Prime Minister of Britain, fucked a dead pig's mouth. That was the one when I went went what the fuck is going on here this is new
Starting point is 00:19:47 because that was new we've had shocking news before but it's like the Prime Minister of England fucked a pig's mouth 2015 that was the flip that's when shit went sour
Starting point is 00:19:57 that's when that's when the all started the ball started rolling and then Prince is dead and then George Michael is dead and you're going fuck me this is getting mad is someone writing this i can't put my phone down i can't put my phone down and i always ask myself who benefits sometimes with anything with anything
Starting point is 00:20:19 if ever i'm confused about anything i always ask myself who benefits who benefits and the only thing not who but the only thing I can see benefiting from the news cycle is the algorithm that controls social media. The more extreme the news, the longer we spend consuming the news on our smartphone devices and then the more data of our behaviour that we feed into this ever-growing algorithm. Okay? And the algorithm, like I'm talking not just google not just facebook but the collective giant artificial intelligence of the algorithm that kind of the internet lives and breathes on the more time we spend engaging with our smartphones the more data we give and the more the algorithm is fed now yes there are human beings that are getting really rich off this mark zuckerberg the people who run google the people who run twitter whatever human beings are getting wealthy but my hot take isn't I don't want to focus this on human beings
Starting point is 00:21:46 more that the algorithm is is becoming like an organism the the algorithm is feeding off our attention, right? Because the algorithm is what benefits from all this. If something mad happens, the algorithm has a full belly. It gets our data and it's sucking and feeding off our data in order to survive and grow. So now here's another piece of information I want to introduce. To my hot take on reality. So. Last month. There was a breakthrough.
Starting point is 00:22:33 In physics. In quantum physics. Now I'm going to try my best to fucking. To explain this because I don't fully understand it. I have to read articles about this shit but. They had a big breakthrough. And this was released in a proper fucking quantum physics paper I saw it on Professor Brian Cox's
Starting point is 00:22:50 Twitter because he posted about it so basically last month they seem to have solved a solution that black holes emit some type of quantum error correction code that's used in quantum computing.
Starting point is 00:23:08 So a black hole, lads, physicists are obsessed with black holes, because a black hole is a star, like our sun, when it gets to the end of its life and it goes massive, then it collapses in on itself and it rips the fabric of space, and that's called a black hole. collapses in on itself and it rips the fabric of space and that's called a black hole and black holes don't conform to reality within a black hole time doesn't exist space doesn't exist like what the fuck time doesn't exist in a black hole like that alone there is a place in the universe and time doesn't exist in there like like, we can't even get our heads around that, but because that is observably true and it exists, there's some shit about fucking reality that we don't get, and it's not, you can touch your fucking legs, you can touch the wall,
Starting point is 00:23:58 and you can say, I am here, and yesterday was yesterday, and tomorrow is tomorrow, but in black holes, that doesn't exist. And they're there. So that's some fucked up shit that we don't understand. But these black holes appear to have quantum correction codes, quantum computing correction codes in these black holes. And it's allowed physics to understand black holes a bit more. Quantum computing is becoming a thing. If you black holes a bit more quantum computing is becoming a thing if you want to hear more about quantum computing and hear an expert describe it
Starting point is 00:24:29 go to my podcast called quantum quarantino where i interviewed uh professor michael brooks who is a fucking quantum physicist and he explains it way better than me but quantum computers are becoming a thing and scientists are trying to figure out how to use them so in a nutshell i can't explain what the fuck was discovered in august right i can't explain it because i'm not a quantum physicist but what i can say is on professor brian cox's twitter on Professor Brian Cox's Twitter a load of scientists are replying underneath and this new discovery that black holes are emitting quantum error correction codes
Starting point is 00:25:14 points towards the idea that the universe and reality might be a simulation okay there is a theory of reality okay a hypothetical theory of reality, okay? A hypothetical theory of reality that we live in a type of computer simulation, almost like a video game. Like, we create video
Starting point is 00:25:36 games like Grand Theft Auto, Red Dead Redemption 2, where we have a little character in the game and they have a world and that's their reality their limited reality and some physicists say that what we call reality because what the fuck is reality lads what is it what the fuck is being alive what is consciousness some physicists say that we live in a type of giant computer simulation which would suggest that maybe the computer was designed but this new physics breakthrough that black holes are emitting a quantum correcting code and that this code is present in quantum computers is the clearest evidence yet that points towards fuck it maybe all reality is is a type of quantum computer simulation and that's what reality is okay and and this isn't new hinduism hinduism the hinduism and the vedic scriptures have pointed at
Starting point is 00:26:36 reality being a type of simulation i believe in hinduism there's a thing called maya and maya within hinduism is like the illusion the, the illusion that's created by the gods. That are perception of being alive and smelling and touching and tasting. It's an illusion, a simulation that's created. So simulation theory, you can find it in religions. But physicists have this as a genuine, this might be one theory of what the fuck life is. It's a giant computer simulation. So here's where my hot take is leading. I've heard it been said that, like the purpose of humans, like we're organic but that the purpose of humans is that we're essentially
Starting point is 00:27:26 the sex organs of machines that that humans exist and we continually strive towards technology and building machines and we obsess about i mean now we're at quantum computing we're at artificial intelligence we're going to get towards machines that can build themselves and that the purpose of humans is that we're machines we're their sex organs we're the thing that make machines come alive and there's going to be an end point where machines can self-replicate and don't need humans anymore. So, taking it back to parasitic symbiosis, taking it back to the fungus that unknowingly
Starting point is 00:28:12 infects the mind of the ant and causes the ant to behave uncontrollably. What if, right, the universe is this computer simulation that operates on quantum codes, as this new black hole carry-on is suggesting the words. What if the universe and reality as we know it is this computer simulation. And what if the algorithm, the algorithm of the internet that we feed all the time,
Starting point is 00:28:50 has somehow developed a symbiotic parasitic relationship with the computer of reality. And, you know, the internet is a type of fungus. Like, the internet exists in nature. Trees, and this is again facts, there's a huge network of funguses in the ground and trees and plants use this network of funguses to communicate with each other across great distances. This is the mushroom internet. You can look that up. That's a thing that nature does. It uses funguses as a type of internet for plants to communicate with each other.
Starting point is 00:29:27 It's an essential part of forests staying healthy. If one tree is injured or if one tree is under threat, it sends a message to a tree a mile away using the mushroom internet. Facts. What if the reason why everything in the news seems to be getting madder and madder and the events of the world each day utterly cause our jaws to drop? You know, what if we're getting aliens? It's the Venus shit that triggered this in me. What if we find out the phosphine gas on Venus is actually, yeah, there's life on Venus, they're only microbes, but that's huge.
Starting point is 00:30:06 We think we're alone in the universe. We've always thought that. And then in 2020, they go, no, no, Venus, man, some microbes up there, which shatters our entire perception of what life is. And they're giving it to us in 2020? They haven't given it to us, but if they do give it to us in 2020, we find this out, incredibly exciting, you know know and we feed this information causes our collective conscious the collective consciousness of humanity to now give all our attention to our devices right to feed all of our data our intense emotional data into the fucking algorithm the algorithm feeds off all this data what if that's the algorithm that we're growing through some type of fucking quantum computing or i don't know what the fuck
Starting point is 00:30:52 what if the algorithm is a parasitic fungus with a parasitic symbiotic relationship with the very mechanics of reality the very the computer simulation of reality, the very, the computer simulation of reality. We have created the parasitic fungus that is able to control the computer of reality and the algorithm is creating the events of reality to feed itself data from our behavior. The algorithm is the parasite fungus the algorithm is making mad shit happen all the time to get a rise out of us because who benefits the algorithm the madder the events of the world are the more attention we give to the algorithm the more it feeds off our data, the more powerful it becomes. It's parasitic. Our suffering feeds the algorithm. What if, like, if humans are the sex organs of the machines, you know, we're creating this algorithm, which is now effectively operating as a form of artificial intelligence. It's using
Starting point is 00:32:00 us. It's using our behavior. It's feeding off our behaviour. And the end point is, imagine the algorithm as it's the fungus in the ant's brain, and we're the ant's limbs, being controlled like a zombie. And the end point is our destruction, The destruction of humankind. Because the parasitic algorithm doesn't care. The machine doesn't care. Human destruction, global warming, everything's gone. But then, finally, the algorithm, like the fungus in the ant's brain, just like sends off, like when the ant finally dies and the fungus, the parasitic, symbiotic parasitic fungus when the ant finally dies and the fungus the parasitic symbiotic parasitic
Starting point is 00:32:46 fungus controls the ant when it dies it sends off this little antenna out of the ant's brain what's what what if that's what the machines are gonna do we're gone the world is fucked and then finally the end stage the machine sends its big antenna up above the earth and then it spreads it spreads its spores and these spores grab onto comets or whatever and that's that's how life is created and that's how we were created that's how life got on earth the spores of a machine's antenna after it had eaten some intelligent civilization. And that's what the nature of reality is. That's what God is. It's a big machine in a computer simulation
Starting point is 00:33:33 and we're just the sex organs of that machine. And we're approaching the end stages of it. So there you go. That's what I've been thinking about all week. Now is it any madder than religion? Is it any madder than religion? Is that any madder than fucking God created the earth in seven days? I don't know. Am I suggesting that to you as some type of dogmatic? How are you getting on lads i'm blind by and i've figured out reality no i'm not absolutely not what i'm doing is i'm trying to entertain you i'm i'm
Starting point is 00:34:13 entertaining you with some bizarre thoughts that i've had this week because that's the purpose of this podcast that's what a hot take is so no this is not my new position on life and this is not my new religion and i do not believe with authority that the algorithm is is a symbiotic parasite with the computer simulation of reality and that is consistently pushing the events of our world into more extreme situations so that we then give the fucking algorithm our attention it's just me trying to figure things out it's me trying to figure things out and trying to entertain ye along the process so don't be worrying about me don't be worrying about me because i can understand why you might listen to that podcast and think he's gone unhinged is he blind by spending too much time alone during
Starting point is 00:35:01 quarantine so i don't uh you don't need to send me a mail to check in with how I am. I had that already actually. So on my Twitch stream, I know if you've, if most of you have come and seen me on Twitch, I do it three times a week, twitch.tv forward slash the BlindBuy podcast. And on Twitch, I'm live streaming, which means it's fully live. And often I'm writing music live to a video game and because the entire thing is live it's not very filtered not a lot of thought goes into it there's a lot of mistakes it happens in the moment but sometimes I take isolated like my Twitch stream
Starting point is 00:35:41 could be three hours long and if I do a nice little song on a twitch stream sometimes I'll take the best clips which could be 5 minutes long and I'll put this up on facebook or on youtube and all it is is a detached clip of me playing a song to the events of a video game
Starting point is 00:36:00 and I put it up on facebook and there's a very small but dedicated community of older people they're not I wouldn't even say they're older some of them are in their fucking 30s there's people on Facebook who don't know what Twitch is don't know what live streaming is and when they see my videos from Twitch on Facebook they think that's me having a nervous breakdown. I've had several comments where I upload a little clip of a song that I've made on Twitch
Starting point is 00:36:31 and it's me playing music to a video game and I've seen comments elsewhere of grown men saying, I saw Blind Boy uploaded this clip and it was just him, it was him singing songs about a cowboy in a video game and I just, do you think there's people around him?
Starting point is 00:36:46 Do you think there's people around him to mind him? Because I think he might be having a nervous breakdown. So there's people who think I'm having a fucking nervous breakdown because they don't know what live streaming is and they don't know what Twitch is. So I'm not. But as well, I have to say it too, because, you know, this podcast is mad.
Starting point is 00:37:07 I know it's mad. But you have to be vigilant with your own friends as well during the pandemic, because conspiracy theories and shit, you know, you have to be vigilant of your friends when you hear them. Speaking about. Coronavirus is planned. Coronavirus is part of the new world order. Vaccines. It's all a plot to control us. Masks are a way to get social compliance. So they can bring in a new world order. Lads there's people in Irish homes.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Right now. Who truly deeply believe this shit. Because of the fucking algorithm algorithm all down to the fucking algorithm this continual feedback loop of bizarre information and being unable to tell the difference between what's true and what's not and you have to be vigilant to your friends you have to be able to know like conspiracy theories are fun conspiracy theories are supposed to be fun they're a conspiracy theory you know reality is confusing
Starting point is 00:38:12 and a conspiracy theory is often the most interesting version of reality we take what's frightening and confusing and you make a really interesting narrative out of it and that's often what conspiracy theories are but I can go through conspiracy theories and know that like this isn't real it's very fucking entertaining
Starting point is 00:38:31 hugely entertaining and it's fun to read about and it's a lot more interesting than the truth but I know it's not real I know that like this is bullshit but if your friend is believing this shit you know keep an eye out on him keep an eye out for him have have compassion try and don't don't confront him but try and speak to him
Starting point is 00:38:51 about you know are you sure about these sources because the problem is with the conspiracy stuff is you start off wondering if coronavirus is fake and in three months time you're a fucking racist because the racists the dangerous racists are very much exploiting and using the conspiracy theory community for people to go deeper and deeper down the
Starting point is 00:39:15 rabbit hole until they're a fucking Nazi you know so do be concerned for your friends don't be concerned for me.
Starting point is 00:39:25 I am aware of how silly this podcast is. I'm having fun. I'm entertaining you. Also, if anyone is listening to this podcast and saying, Blind Boy, you sound like you've watched The Social Dilemma on Netflix. That's immediate dog shit in the letterbox. You're getting dog shit in the letterbox. So, Netflix have this thing at the moment,
Starting point is 00:39:48 and it is good, I watched it last week, it's called The Social Dilemma, and it's about the algorithm. If you want to understand the algorithm, it's a good thing, it's about the algorithm, it's about what's happening with our data, our behaviour, and how it feeds the algorithm. But, this episode is not fucking inspired by that i my bbc series i made an
Starting point is 00:40:10 episode of my bbc series called how the internet killed reality and i started writing that in 2017 so if you have the bbc iplayer look up blind by underroys the World, my series is on it, it's up for another two months I believe, look at the episode How the Internet Killed Reality and I did a very, me and a team of fucking journalists and my co-writers, I had resources, it's all about the algorithm, did it fucking a year and a half before those Netflix cunts, a year and a half before them, alright, so I'm taking fucking credit i was the first one netflix fuck you but and thank fuck it's been nominated for an award and it's been recognized at least that documentary is there it explains exactly what the algorithm is we tied it all in with with psychology with the operant conditioning with the psychology of Skinner and it's rigorous it's not just me
Starting point is 00:41:07 on a podcast talking out of my arse it's me talking out of my arse what my heart takes but everything I say there's a team of journalists a team of people to research it so that it's butterproof it's solid so get a look at that if you want to understand the internet and algorithms and data and don't say that I'm watching that fucking Social Dilemma on Netflix. Dog shit in the letterbox. So I think it's time now. I told you this whole story is going to end by me talking about how I took ecstasy on the radio. And that's going to happen, but we'll have a little ocarina pause first.
Starting point is 00:41:41 So we'll do a shaker pause this week instead of an ocarina. I'm going to do, for new listeners, a digital advert is going to be inserted. This advert will depend upon your algorithm. However you behave on your phone, whatever you look up, whatever your interests are, the algorithm has read this, the algorithm is speaking to this podcast, and it's going to give you an advert that's tailored specifically just for you depending on your interests. And that's what's going to get dropped in now. So let's have the shaker pause. On April 5th, you must be very careful, Margaret. It's a girl. Witness the birth. Bad things will start to happen.
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Starting point is 00:43:54 and that's poisonous for advertisers. But they can go fuck themselves. Come to my podcast if you want. If I like what you're doing, no problem. I'll speak about it. If I don't like what you're doing, you can fuck off. And I have the freedom to be like this because this podcast is supported by you, the listener,
Starting point is 00:44:11 via the Patreon page, patreon.com forward slash the blind buy podcast. This is my sole source of income. This is what pays for the podcast. If you're consuming this podcast, if you're enjoying it, just pay me for the work I'm doing. That's all I'm asking. Price of a pint or a cup of coffee once a month that's all it is pay me for the work that i'm doing also by having a listener funded podcast it gives me full editorial control no one tells me what to talk about who to have on as a guest i've got full
Starting point is 00:44:41 fucking control and it's a beautiful beautiful model and i earn a living from it i get paid for the work i'm doing i'm fucking happy as larry with this if if you can't afford it you don't have to because someone who can afford it is paying for you everyone's happy but if you can't afford please consider patreon.com forward slash the blind buy podcast i gotta keep plugging it because people come and people go and that's how i earn a living i won't be doing gigs for a long time because of coronavirus i might i'm getting the itch i'm getting the itch right so i'm gonna look at seeing if i can do one or two socially distant gigs which would be maybe 100 people in the audience 100 people in the audience
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Starting point is 00:46:56 the central tenet of this podcast and what got me thinking about this podcast this episode the news cycle is observably extreme and irrational and it's exponential since about 2015
Starting point is 00:47:14 the news has been getting progressively more bonkers and I can't understand it you know could be the fucking internet fungus controlling the computer of reality i don't know but it's observable and it's true and it's happening and i'm always trying to figure out you know where was the moment i said like david cameron fucking it fucking a pig's
Starting point is 00:47:36 mouth that was a big one but another one was in 2015 ire, the country of fucking Ireland, accidentally legalised drugs for 24 hours. So what happened is there was a law introduced in 1977 in Ireland called the Misuse of Drugs Act. And this law made ketamine, ecstasy, controlled substances illegal. Okay? But in 2015, the Court of Appeal found that when they tried to introduce this act in 1977,
Starting point is 00:48:18 they did it via ministerial order but they failed to run it by the Oireachtas. The Oireachtas is the legislator of Ireland so they tried to pass this law on drugs in 1977 and someone forgot to run it by the Oireachtas effectively meaning the law violated the constitution. In order for this act to come into effect it meant that the Oireachtas which included the president had to go yeah drugs are illegal now we pass this act that never happened so the court of appeal found this out in 2015 and went to the government and were like lads you think you made drugs illegal but you actually
Starting point is 00:49:00 didn't you're after violating the constitution. So the government went fucking apeshit. And they were like, well, we have to introduce emergency legislation now to actually make these drugs illegal. But in order to do it, there was 24 hours in 2015 where these drugs were legal. It was the 10th of March 2015 as well, which is dangerously close to St. Patrick's Day,
Starting point is 00:49:27 2017. That's a week before St. Patrick's Day. Like, if it was a week later and they'd legalised drugs on St. Patrick's Day, when the entire country is having a party.
Starting point is 00:49:38 So, yes, literally, in 2015, I think it was before Cameron fucked a pig's mouth, but we couldn't believe it. But we couldn't believe it. The country couldn't believe it. It's like, what?
Starting point is 00:49:51 Ireland accidentally legalised ecstasy, ketamine, mushrooms? Are you fucking serious? And it was really embarrassing for Ireland because it made huge international news. The international perception of Ireland is often based on English, kind of old school English racism. We're not seen internationally as a real country. We're not really taken seriously as a nation. We're seen as very funny little leprechauns who are trying our
Starting point is 00:50:21 best. You know, that's kind of how we're seen. Funny little leprechauns who, you know, we're corrupt and we nod and we wink and we give incomplete answers. That's why, like today, what was so shocking is the government are trying to introduce coronavirus legislation with a five-step plan. And then when asked, they say, well, one of them is two and a bit
Starting point is 00:50:46 it's not it's not two and it's not three it's two and a bit which plays exactly into the negative perceptions that the world has of Ireland being an incompetent funny place where crazy shit happens and in a way it is in a way it is and it's part of our charm but it can get insulting especially when the fucking brits say it but the whole world had a laugh at ireland but there was 24 fucking hours where drugs were legal and the guards kind of turned a blind eye i mean around the country certain nightclubs like there was a nightclub in Dublin fuck it actually it was 48 hours it was 48 hours of legal drugs so like Vice at the time
Starting point is 00:51:31 Vice basically sent reporters to Dublin going right okay well if fucking drugs are legal for 24 hours or for 48 hours we want to be there we want to see it so they did they went to nightclubs and lo and behold people were racking
Starting point is 00:51:48 up lines of coke people were doing ketamine people were taking ecstasy and the police weren't there the police couldn't in that period the irish police couldn't fucking arrest someone if they were doing coke and it happened happened. So, in 2015, I would have been in the middle of my master's degree. And my master's degree was in socially engaged art. My master's degree was in trying to understand myself as a performer, trying to understand
Starting point is 00:52:20 how do you create art by like using the media, using society and incorporating these things into your art as acts of performance so i said to myself because i'm thinking artistically at this time i'm in my fucking masters why don't i because ecstasy is legal and because drugs are legal. Like one thing you can't do, you can't go on the radio or television under the influence of an illegal substance. You certainly can't say it. It's in violation of broadcast laws.
Starting point is 00:52:55 But for 48 hours, these drugs were now legal. Therefore, why can't somebody go on television or the radio on drugs why can't they so i was thinking i i set myself a challenge i said as an act of performance art as an act of fucking performance art can i go on television or radio under the influence of a drug that is legal for that period of time as an as an act of performance art within that period and can i make the goal the thing with socially engaged art and the socially engaged art that i'm interested in is using art and artistic performance for positive social change to create artistic interventions in society whereby what you're doing is creating a different means of communication i do this all the time with this podcast i do it with mental health i appear on talk shows with a fucking plastic bag on my head and speak about mental health. I'm using performance, comedy, art,
Starting point is 00:54:08 clowning as an alternative way to get a message across because that can be more effective than the traditional way to do it. Doing it through performance and through entertainment and through humor and through art to get a message across or try to get people to think about things differently is an act of performance art because as well if if you can use humor absurdity effectively around situations that are stigmatized or that people are scared to talk about if you can cut through that with humour. What it does is. What you're actually cutting through is solemnity.
Starting point is 00:54:51 When we speak about things that are. That we think are serious. Like mental health. Drugs. Addiction. Often we're not being serious about it. What we're being is solemn. And when you're solemn about something.
Starting point is 00:55:03 You're defensive. And you don't think about it. You don't engage critically with the subject because you're worried about saying the wrong thing or you're worried about appearing serious. So what I like to do is to use humor to break through the solemnity of something while still caring deeply and being respectful for whatever it is I'm talking about. So you can remove stigma by peeling back the solemnity through the effective use of humour or creativity. So on the 10th of March 2015, I put a call out on Facebook. I put a call out on Facebook and I said I will go radio stations
Starting point is 00:55:47 I will go on your radio station on ecstasy I'll take a yoke I'm going to take a yoke and you can interview me who wants to do it so I put that call out and
Starting point is 00:56:00 I got a phone call back from News Talk who are a pretty big fucking Irish radio station, one of the biggest. And they said to me, they didn't say explicitly. So I'd said on Facebook, I will take a yoke and come on the radio. So they rang me up and said, we saw your post. Will you come on and speak to Tom Dunn? They were very careful.
Starting point is 00:56:26 They didn't say to me, no, you're definitely going to be on drugs now yeah they just said we saw your post will you come and talk to Tom and I'm guessing they're thinking if I am or I'm not on ecstasy it doesn't matter because it's actually fucking legal so I rang him up I rang him up and had a chat with Tom Dunn on a yoke and do you know what because I just think it's wise going forward into the future
Starting point is 00:56:54 I will never confirm or deny if I'm actually on ecstasy in this radio piece just going forward, I don't know, what am I going to be doing, in 10 years,
Starting point is 00:57:08 I will not confirm, or deny, if I'm actually on ecstasy, but if I was, then, what are you going to do, it was legal anyway, it was legal anyway,
Starting point is 00:57:17 it was a lot of fun, so that's what I'm going to play, for you now, this is 2015, I rang up, the Tam Dunn radio show. It would have had a pretty fucking big listenership. This would have been about 5pm in the day. One of the biggest radio shows in the country.
Starting point is 00:57:36 So a lot of people listening. And Blind Boy rings up. On ecstasy as an act of performance. It's legal. Do ecstasy on the radio. See what happens and speak about since that was my goal can i speak about sensible drug legislation can i use this opportunity can i use this spectacle this absurd spectacle this absurd performance can i use this to actually get five or six minutes on the radio to speak about sensible harm reduction
Starting point is 00:58:07 and sensible drug legislation, which is something I would never, never usually get a platform for at all, especially not in 2015, it was before the podcast people still thought I was a bit of an eejit you know As I said, thanks to a temporary
Starting point is 00:58:23 loophole in the law, the possession of X, C, ketamine, crystal meth, and more than 100 other substances are no longer considered a criminal offence until midnight on Thursday. Blind Boy Boat Club of the Arab Bandits on the line. Blind Boy, how are you? How are you, Tom? Everybody, Tom, what's the fact?
Starting point is 00:58:40 I'm sick and I'm at a party. Right. I'm going to go and have a second. Okay, just as... How are you getting on, Tom? I'm getting on great. Listen, you said on Twitter, I just wanted to talk to you about this. What? All right. Okay. I'm getting on great. Listen, you said on Twitter, I just want to talk about this. You said on Twitter you'd be on legally consumed yips.
Starting point is 00:58:53 What's that mean, blind boy? My legs are having an argument with my shoulders about how much rank my body is charging. Right. Okay. That sounds good to me. But I'm... All right, I'll be honest. I'm on a yoke, right? But if we take the word yoke to mean a colloquial term
Starting point is 00:59:11 for any object that doesn't have a name in Ireland, so I'm standing on an object and I don't know the name of it. Fair enough. Technically, I'm on a yoke. Right. That sounds perfectly legal to me. On a book board. Exactly, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:22 And all good. If it wasn't, it would be legal anyway, you know? At the moment, it would be legal. There's no question about that no matter where you are. That's just the way it stands.
Starting point is 00:59:31 What do you make of it? What do you think? I mean, I couldn't imagine this happening in America. Could you? I think it's a legislative anomaly which not only
Starting point is 00:59:39 exposes massive incompetence to our system but also drives into question the rationale of drug lords themselves. Do you know what I mean like yeah I think you
Starting point is 00:59:46 hit the nail on the head there alright yeah the other fella the other fella he just happened to go to the line of ketamine
Starting point is 00:59:50 off a frame picture of Charles Stewart Parnell and now he's upstairs in the attic looking for a letter to get out of a care hold well it's just
Starting point is 00:59:57 well we're not talking to him oh yeah he's not on the radio he's not he's upstairs in the attic yeah
Starting point is 01:00:02 right what do you think is going to happen tomorrow? There's 24 hours before this midnight on Thursday when normality returns. Well, I mean, already down here in Limerick, I only went for a cycle
Starting point is 01:00:15 and I've seen two fishermen giving each other back rubs. Do you know what I mean? So, like, it's clearly the effects here are rippling in Limerick. I mean, it can be seen on the street. But, I don't know. I think the government's
Starting point is 01:00:26 after almost doing an artistic intervention on itself because we now have this opportunity. It's so absurd. The entire world is now staring at Ireland's law and laughing because it's so ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:00:35 It's like, Ireland accidentally legalised drugs for 48 hours, you know. But I think what it does, you can open up conversations now about the problems with legislation and regulation. You see, prohibition, it's a binary problem. Sorry, prohibition is a binary solution.
Starting point is 01:00:54 It's a black and white solution. But addiction and drugs, it's a postmodern problem. It's colorful. And we need to look at it more. I mean, if you take ecstasy, for example, the actual chemical MDMA, when that's not abused, it's actually safe. But the thing is that because of the illegality, it's forced the production of ecstasy into the black market
Starting point is 01:01:16 rather than a more sensible model of regulation, you know? And I don't think people are ever going to stop taking yoga. That's a long argument, though, which tends to just go around in circles. But you've seen two fishermen giving each other back rubs already. There's 24 more hours of this. There's 24 more hours of it. So I think I'm waiting to see a trawler full of fishermen, not only rubbing their own backs, but rubbing the fish's backs as well.
Starting point is 01:01:43 The fish might get involved as well you never even know it's like what uh yeah like it it's i think as well we need to move towards uh towards the conversation about about mental health as well i mean that's the thing i'm not into telling adults to do anything and i don't can do whatever they want but the one thing i would say to any person who wants to take a drug, whether that be heroin or chocolate, you know what I mean? Anytime you get a pang in your body for any substance, even if it's a cigarette, you have an opportunity there to ask yourself, using intrapersonal emotional intelligence, why do I want this substance right now? If you're stressed during exams or something, you want to smoke a fag, ask yourself, why want this and when you explore your own emotions and solve that out using intrapersonal intelligence you'll
Starting point is 01:02:29 actually find out that you mightn't want that substance anymore and that's what i'd say to anybody always ask yourself at any point why do i want this and that goes for chocolate that goes for anything that's open to abuse it's at the of all of this, we've got a mental health discussion and it's hard to have rational mental health when the drugs laws themselves are irrational. You have there,
Starting point is 01:02:53 it's a point of contention that exists and we can't conquer it until there's a bit of rationality, you know? Well, tomorrow there's the 24-hour opportunity for lots of people to ask themselves questions.
Starting point is 01:03:02 There is, and let's just embrace whether people want to legally avail of what's available. I think everybody should embrace the absurdist intervention that has just happened for these 48 hours and just go, I mean,
Starting point is 01:03:16 it's the spirit of Flann O'Brien alive and well. It is. It's simply bloody, it is. I don't think I've seen anything like this since the bank guaranteed, to be honest. I don't think we've seen anything like this since the bank guaranteed, to be honest. I don't think we've had the world looking at us in disbelief like this since then. You know, it's truly amazing.
Starting point is 01:03:31 We'll watch this space for the next 24 hours and see what's going on. But listen, tell me, you guys seem to be absolutely thriving since you went over across the water to London. We're doing all right, Joe. We're selling out three shows there in the Abbey Theatre
Starting point is 01:03:45 That are on This March But Because they're After selling out We're announcing A show On the 25th of March
Starting point is 01:03:55 In the Abbey Theatre Which is going on sale Tomorrow And what What is that show about? It's our musical It's a musical We took it to London
Starting point is 01:04:03 And we took it to Edinburgh And we toured the UK With it to the Crackin' Tans you know and they got it we went to Shakespeare's Globe theatre with it two nights in a row
Starting point is 01:04:10 and now the you know because you kind of get respect in the UK then you get a bit of respect then in Ireland the way it works but here's the thing right
Starting point is 01:04:17 like I said earlier I'm on a yoke right we established what a yoke was I'm not the first Abbey Theatre artist to do that because Samuel Beck I'm not the first Abbey Theatre artist to do that
Starting point is 01:04:26 because Samuel Beckett used to advertise his Abbey Theatre shows by sniffing permanent markers and using Morse code did he? he did yeah he was non-stop
Starting point is 01:04:36 man you couldn't keep Samuel Beckett away from permanent markers it was non-stop he'd be black-handed look at any of his photographs mad for the permanent markers
Starting point is 01:04:44 and tarmac he used to go out on a the permanent markers. And tarmac. He used to go out on a hot day and sniff the tarmac. So that's what waiting for God was about. It's about waiting for the sun to come out and melt the tarmac. You live and learn, Blind Boy. You live and learn. Yes. Oh my God. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Here, come here, Tom. Will you play something off the Prodigy Experience? Any song off the Prodigy Experience, please? I will. I'm going to play a few now. It's been an absolute pleasure. I love you. I love you. And I mean that.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Have a good night, men. I'd forgotten I'd forgotten about that I'd forgotten to put in the fucking prodigy at the end after I asked so ah fuck it I haven't heard that in a while now
Starting point is 01:05:42 I think I did fucking half of that in the Trout of No Cracks accent. But like, Tom was good crack there now. Tom was a good sport for that. I'd forgotten about that. That's the first time I've listened to that in full now in nearly five years. So, yeah, that was one of those ones. It's like Ireland legalized drugs for 48 hours.
Starting point is 01:06:09 That was one of those 2015 stories that's where the news started getting crazy, started getting strange. And that was good fun. Today, FM, our news talk, because I used the full extract there, which was like seven minutes. Hopefully I'm allowed to use that under fair use, which means I used it for commentary and documentary and for criticality. That's why I used the whole thing. Hopefully they won't have an issue with me using that. So I hope you enjoyed this week's podcast i certainly enjoyed doing it i enjoyed the hot take um mind yourself have compassion for yourself rub a dog rub a cat i'm gonna be back next week don't know what i'll be back doing or talking about having a clue i'll
Starting point is 01:06:58 figure that out um i'm currently working out how to do some interviews via Zoom. So I can have guests on again and speak to them via Zoom and get some decent audio quality too. So I'm trying to, maybe not Zoom, there's a piece of software called Zencaster, which appears to be quite good. So I can do some podcast interviews for ye, but the audio quality on the other person's end is is pretty good so that it's not it doesn't interfere with your podcast hug if you get me all right york god bless also i don't think i need to
Starting point is 01:07:33 fucking explain it i think i explained it very well in that in that interview um i'm not promoting the use of fucking drugs all right i don't tell adults what to do i don't tell adults what to do i don't espouse anything. What I do is I'll... I said it all in that interview, but I'm not promoting drugs there. That was a certain time and place and I wanted to speak about drug legislation. I want to speak about sensible drug policy.
Starting point is 01:07:59 A health-based drugs model rather than a criminal-based drugs model. That was the purpose of that phone call. It was the purpose, of that phone call, it was the purpose, of that artistic intervention, not to, say that, drugs are class,
Starting point is 01:08:11 you know, that's part of the humour, of it, the humour of it, is, ha ha, drugs are class, ecstasy's cool,
Starting point is 01:08:19 blind boys at a party, rubbing fish, ha ha ha, that's, that's the in, that's, that's the's the absurdity and the humor
Starting point is 01:08:26 to get people listening. But once you have him in, right, let's talk about mental health. Let's talk about sensible drug policy. Let's talk about harm reduction. So that's the context
Starting point is 01:08:34 and intent of that. I don't think you're going to get offended anyway. See you next week. Rock City, you're the best fans in the league bar none tickets are on sale now for fan appreciation night on saturday april 13th when the toronto rock hosts the rochester nighthawks at first ontario center in hamilton at 7 30 p.m you can also lock in your playoff pack right now to guarantee the same seats for every postseason game. And you'll only pay as we play.
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