The Blindboy Podcast - Robert Sheehan

Episode Date: October 20, 2021

I chat with Umbrella Academy actor Robbie Sheehan about Nicholas Cage vomiting a communion wafer in front of Eddie Van Halen Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Choke the parochial corncrake you aching Jacobs. Welcome to the Blind Boy Podcast. I have a very special episode for ye this week. I have a special guest. Hollywood actor, Robbie Sheehan. I recorded the chat last week at my gig in Vicar Street. It was a live, a live podcast and Robbie Sheehan was my guest. And that's also the reason why,
Starting point is 00:00:29 for last week's podcast, the second half of it, my voice was quite hoarse. Because myself and Robbie had so much crack, that I was shouting into the microphone, roaring into the microphone for an hour, and it destroyed my voice. So this week's episode isn't necessarily a relaxing podcast hug like I usually do. This is quite a fun,
Starting point is 00:00:55 energetic episode because it was a fun, energetic night. It was in Vicar Street and the atmosphere of the gig, it was a healing atmosphere. The audienceicar Street and the atmosphere of the gig it was a healing atmosphere the audience were fantastic and the vibe in the room was one of healing healing through laughter after we've all spent so long in fucking isolation
Starting point is 00:01:17 so it was a magnificent night and it's a privilege to be playing it for you today on this week's podcast but like I said if you're here for you today on this week's podcast. But like I said, if you're here for a podcast hug, this isn't really the one. Maybe go back to an earlier episode or I'll be back with a podcast hug next week. I'm conscious also that there's probably a lot of new listeners right now who've come here to listen to Robbie Sheehan because Robbie is ridiculously famous
Starting point is 00:01:45 he's in Umbrella Academy on Netflix and he's huge worldwide so there's going to be a lot of new listeners listening to this podcast you're incredibly welcome and I hope you enjoy it and I hope that you go back and listen to some earlier episodes of this podcast and become a regular listener
Starting point is 00:02:00 but one thing I will say to you if you're a huge Robbie Sheehan fan I don't do like traditional interviews what I try and do is to have conversations especially if the person is incredibly famous because in the media space really famous people they generally just get to do quite boring interviews where it's turn and response and they're asked questions about their career or about what they're working on I don't do that I try to have organic human conversations about whatever the fuck so that's what I do so if you're listening to this and you're disappointed that I'm not asking very specific questions about Umbrella Academy or some other aspect of Robbie's career, that's not the vibe that I'm going for.
Starting point is 00:02:52 So please bring that into your awareness as you listen to this and enjoy the crack. Before I get into the chat, I want to give Robbie a little plug. Robbie's after releasing a brand new book his first collection of short stories called Disappearing Act and the way Robbie describes it is quite exciting because so Robbie's an actor he's not necessarily a writer well he is now he's just after writing a book so he's a writer now but acting is his predominant artistic expression in writing this collection of short stories disappearing act which is out today in writing this collection of short stories he
Starting point is 00:03:37 approached this from the perspective of being an actor and he talks about it in this podcast but he speaks about when he has to take on a character in a role on tv his job as an actor is to basically write that character's backstory to write their backstory to figure out what how they would be and how they would feel in different situations to create a fictional universe for the character that Robbie has to portray and that's how he approached his book of short stories and I find that quite that's a very interesting approach it's a cross-disciplinary approach which I'm always interested in because you know from myself my own short stories sometimes I'll be writing a short story and I'm not writing it as a writer I'm writing it as a painter or I'm writing it as a musician even though
Starting point is 00:04:31 the medium is words you can write while approaching it from a completely different discipline so if you're interested in getting Robbie's stories the book is called Disappearing Act and it's in shops now Disappearing Act by Robbie Sheehan I think my voice is still a small bit crackly what the fuck is that about so I'm going to go straight into the interview now it was wonderful fun it was wonderful fun and I hope you enjoy it
Starting point is 00:04:58 Robbie's a lovely fella it's so lovely to see all of you God bless you thank you so much for coming along Oh it's a great pleasure I've been listening to your podcast for years Thank you very much Robbie
Starting point is 00:05:10 I've been podcast stalking you for many many years now You're with me in the shower quite regularly I'm sure A lot of you he's with you in the shower Am I wrong? The last time I met Robbie I was doing a gig Was it Vancouver or Toronto? Toronto he's with you in the shower. Am I wrong? The last time, last time I met Robbie, I was doing a gig.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Was it Vancouver or Toronto? Toronto. I was doing a gig in Toronto. Rockstar. And I was interviewing circus freaks on stage. Lovely fellas. The monsters of schlock. Now, I've never put out
Starting point is 00:05:41 the podcast live because it's basically two hours of lads on stage hammering nails into their nose. And that's very entertaining live. You can see it, but it's not great to listen to. And then Robbie arrives backstage. I think you might have had a can or two.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Possibly, yeah. And the lads had a large bear trap. And we don't have bears in Ireland. I think it was a coyote trap. Because a bear trap has serrated teeth on it, doesn't it? It was something that Robbie Sheehan shouldn't put his arm into. Yeah, probably.
Starting point is 00:06:12 So Robbie was backstage demanding to put his fucking elbow into something that was designed to murder a bear. It was out of morbid curiosity. I wanted to know what it felt like, you know. Like getting bitten by a poisonous snake or something. Would you be into that now? Are you the type of person who's
Starting point is 00:06:27 curious about being bitten by different types of venom? If I come up to you now with a salamander and said I'm going to bite you with this salamander, would you be, I'd rather not? Or fuck it, let's see what happens. I don't know if I'd be too fussed with a salamander to be honest. But I'm
Starting point is 00:06:44 actually, I'm staying on a farm currently and the owners of the farm have loads and loads of reptiles in their house. What type? They have pythons, tortoises, geckos, tarantulas. They have all sorts of stuff. And I was just there, I was thinking
Starting point is 00:07:00 like I'd love to feel what it would be like if one, because they were telling me they have one snake that's really pissed off and angry and defensive. So whenever they go in to feed it, it starts going like that. Like going, yeah, yeah, what? And like trying to get at... And I was thinking, wow, that would be mad
Starting point is 00:07:18 just to feel what it would be like. And, you know, while we're on this earth briefly. No, I can understand it. I'd be someone who'd, I'd be more like, I don't want to get bitten by the snake. But that would be more me. That's a fair position. But it's, people are different.
Starting point is 00:07:37 People are different. So you're someone, like, I saw you with the bear trap. And it made me go that, like, if I'm in a room and there's a bear trap, I'm made me go like if I'm in a room and there's a bear trap I'm going to be like that's for killing bears so that's got nothing to do with me
Starting point is 00:07:49 I'm going to I'm going to not go near that he also my landlord also told me that there are lots of false widows around the cabin oh yeah
Starting point is 00:07:57 and they're quite they're quite present in Ireland now so I there's these two lads up in Galway they work in a thing called the Venom Lab I interviewed them lads up in Galway. They work in a thing called the Venom Lab.
Starting point is 00:08:06 I interviewed them while I was in Galway. They're fascinating individuals. Wow. So these are two lads who, they study Venom, right?
Starting point is 00:08:12 Like there were leaders in this, but like yourself, they both love getting stung. They fucking love it. And they kind of couldn't say it on the podcast
Starting point is 00:08:21 because I interviewed them because they kind of lose their jobs. Yeah. It might start to make their jobs look like a fetish exactly but the thing was the interesting thing was so this fella in particular he'd been bitten by fucking everything right wow he said the worst thing of all was he was in africa like they go into the middle of the congo with students and they search for the most venomous
Starting point is 00:08:45 insects and snakes and everything. So he'd gotten bitten by he was lying in bed. It was a giant centipede. And he said it was three days of being stabbed to death. Oh my God. Like he couldn't believe it. Wow. So he's been bitten
Starting point is 00:09:02 by everything and he will there's a scale of the pain and that was the most for him and then one day he was out his back garden just mowing his lawn in galway and he got stung by a bee and went into extreme anaphylactic shock and had to be rushed to hospital so he had been every time you get bitten what it does is it triggers your immune response. He'd done it so much that he'd made himself allergic to a Galway bee.
Starting point is 00:09:33 But not a Congolese python. No. I once worked with an actor who had sore shoulders from doing stunts and stuff and so he flew in one of these bee sting venom doctors and the guy says, so have you had this before? from doing stunts and stuff. And so he flew in one of these bee sting venom doctors. Oh, yeah. And the guy says, so have you had this before?
Starting point is 00:09:48 He's like, no, I haven't, no. So he was like, well, we'll just give you one dose and see how it goes. And then after about, I don't know how long it was. They inject the venom of a bee into your spine. Yeah, but into the area that's inflamed, right? Yeah. And then after a while, Jerry, the actor, he goes,
Starting point is 00:10:04 ah, not really feeling it and it's still kind of sore. Give us another one. And then went into anaphylactic shock and now has to carry an EpiPen everywhere he goes. Self-administered. It's no joke. I mean, I think, so these lads in Galway as well, they're really studying the bee venom
Starting point is 00:10:24 because it's going to have very positive impact on people who have immune disorders. So people who have like MS, they want to inject bee venom into their spines to hopefully, it's whatever way it fucks with the immune system. So there's benefits to it, but it can go either way. Did you hear that bees can smell COVID? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Have you ever seen the Japanese drug sniffing wasps? Little uniforms on them and stuff. You tell me about the COVID sniffing bees first. You know, I watched that HBO series about the Q and the QAnon movement in the US, which eventuated in the storming of Capitol Hill in Washington and so I went on that website where all the Q communications were happening which is called 8chan
Starting point is 00:11:11 and there's a lot of like sort of subversive articles that they believe you wouldn't see in the mainstream media and a lot of them are right I mean there's a lot of kind of hate oriented stuff but there's also quite interesting stuff on there and so there was an article about some Dutch researchers who'd
Starting point is 00:11:28 proven that honeybees can smell COVID. Just the way, like, dogs can smell cancer or weed in your suitcase or whatever. So, in Japan, wasps can smell drugs. So what they did in Japan was
Starting point is 00:11:44 instead of getting dogs to go around the airport smelling wasps or smell drugs. Wow. So what they did in Japan was, instead of getting dogs to go around the airport smelling wasps or smelling drugs, they got like a, it looks like a speed gun. And they have about five or six wasps taped to the top of it. And they basically point the wasps at cocaine. And it's a better way. Amazing. And it uses less resources as well
Starting point is 00:12:06 because a lot of effort goes into training a cocaine-smelling dog. Wow. It's a very educational evening, you know, about the insect world. So,
Starting point is 00:12:18 you're from Port Leash? I am indeed, of origin. And we were having a conversation earlier where it was quite an empathic conversation. You were complimenting Limerick on the wonderful Troy Studios.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Oh, yeah. And then I turned around and just, it's an instinctive thing, I just said, Asher, look, you've got the prison up in Portlaoise. Yeah, yeah. A lot of Irish people I mention Portlaoise, they don't know where it is.
Starting point is 00:12:44 It's a beautiful name. Port Leash. It's a port for the most inland county in Ireland. It's one of the few ports in the country. But the reason I said that to you was like, you know, you go fair play to Limerick. You have this lovely film studio. And then I felt bad and said, oh, you have that prison, Robbie. It's not too bad.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Don't worry about it. and then I felt bad and said, oh, you have that prison, Robbie. It's not too bad. Don't worry about it. It felt like when you're in school and you're both doing pass English and then I have to turn around and say, I'm actually, I'm going up to honours English.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Yeah, you're like, what? Yeah, it was like that. You're leaving me here with the prison? It's a very infrastructural town because beside the prison, there's a, I think, prison officer training facility and across the way, there's a very infrastructural town because beside the prison, there's a, I think prison officer training facility and across the way
Starting point is 00:13:27 there's a mental hospital and beside the mental hospital there's a hospital for sick people, you know, illness and what have you. I like that that got a cheer. Oh, nice one.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Illness, woo! Are you a nurse? Ah, fair off. That makes sense. All right, okay. Nice one. So there's all the kind of civic stuff
Starting point is 00:13:44 that a country kind of needs. They all just, they shoved it all in Portlaoise. What's it like? Oh, you're going to go for one of those? Yeah, yeah. Actually, do you know what? I've done a few Q&As in my time.
Starting point is 00:13:54 No, you're dead fucking right. Hit myself into the face with it. Yeah, that thing is oppressive. That's what happens when you don't gig for two fucking years. You forget how to use a microphone. But you know what? No, that's a much better...
Starting point is 00:14:05 I forgot you could even do that. I was reading a book called Leash Folk Tales today. I was kind of welling up because I forgot the fact that Fionn MacCool is from Leash. Right? Really? And he was raised at the Shleefbloom Mountains, which is in West Leash.
Starting point is 00:14:23 And Ballyfin, which is the college I went to. Oh, there's a fair few Leash heads in tonight, yeah. Woo! Leash heads who appear to be from multiple parts of Leash all at once. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Like a Leash superposition. What's that about? But are you from Leash? Oh, fair play. Oh, that's a coincidence, because you don't really announce your guests until about ten minutes before the gig. Yeah, I don't, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Which is a nice thing. I like the lucky bag situation. I like people not knowing who's going to... You know what I mean? I think it's like the Tommy Deeran in chat show. Exactly, yeah. Because, yeah, other chat shows feel very over-rehearsed these days. You don't want to tell people who's coming on stage you want that whole fucking
Starting point is 00:15:08 it'd be like someone telling you what's in the lucky bag I don't want to know honestly would you buy a kinder egg if you know what toy is in there no not since they started doing ornaments that was a real let down in the kinder world also one thing i do enjoy
Starting point is 00:15:25 about my podcast is that you could come here and it's either like you who's like an actual hollywood actor or just a butcher i like i could literally like i have three other gigs i have three other gigs in november like i could just bring a butcher like for real genuinely i i was up the man i was up in mullingar I interviewed some fella who used to be in a band. He fell asleep during the podcast. So the guy fell asleep mid-podcast? Yeah, and that's the reason... So when I came here tonight and these chairs...
Starting point is 00:15:55 That's the reason we do speed before the gig now. And also, it's why I asked Robbie. Robbie's not wearing socks. And you did have these fetching socks on. And I said, Robbie, take off the socks, man, because I've got a fan here. And it blows on his feet so Robbie doesn't fall asleep. But yeah, he fell asleep in the middle of the gig, man. Wow.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Did you take that personally? No. No, no, no, no. I responded to it in the moment. I thought it was quite tender. Once I realized he wasn't dead. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because that was the first reaction.
Starting point is 00:16:30 I went to a play recently in the RSC in Stratford-upon-Avon. And there was a very old gentleman next to me. In fact, he was standing behind my seats. There's quite a few standing seats. And I sort of went, come here, we'll scooch down. So we sat right close to each other. And he fell asleep like five minutes into the play.
Starting point is 00:16:49 And then at the applause at the interval, he went... He goes, I absolutely love coming to the theatre. Oh, I love it. I love the show. See, he'd been asleep the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Was that Shakespeare's gaffe? Strap for the bundle? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In St been asleep the whole thing. Was that Shakespeare's gaffe? Strap for the band? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've done a ton of shit on stage as well, haven't you? Yeah, well, over the years sort of intense pockets
Starting point is 00:17:15 but with lots of space in between. In fact, I'm going to do a play in Dublin in February, March. I'm going to do Samuel Beckett's Endgame. Fucking lovely. With the great comedian Frankie Boyle. Fuck off.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Where are you doing that? In the gate. How long are you doing that for? And Sean McGinley and Gina Moxley. Like, proper stellar cast. Are you looking forward to that?
Starting point is 00:17:43 Yeah. How did Frankie get involved in that so Frankie uh the the agency I'm represented by Ireland the UK have a huge comedy department and myself and Rose Parkinson who you know we're kind of brainstorming over Endgame and be like oh it would be amazing to do this on stage after all of this episodic television making I've been doing for several years be like that'd be great. Who could play Ham? So a quick sort of rundown of Endgame, for those of you who don't know,
Starting point is 00:18:10 Ham is a character who's kind of losing his sight. He's lost the ability to walk and he's kind of losing his marbles as well. And there's another character who can't sit down. So Ham can't stand up and Clove can't sit down. And then there's two very, very, very elderly people who are just in dustbins at the back like this. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:30 And people feed them dog biscuits. Yeah, yeah. And they're like, give us a jam bun. And they're like negotiating for some old sweet at the back of the stage. Very sort of funny, but deeply grim, blackly comic.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Do you enjoy Beckett? Because sometimes I think Beckett played the whole point of it was him to literally torture the audience. But literally, because Beckett's thing is absurdity. And absurdity is so it's when
Starting point is 00:19:00 you know that life is meaningless, but then you search for meaning, even though you know it's meaningless. So that life is meaningless but then you search for meaning even though you know it's meaningless so that in between is the absurd and that can be uncomfortable so Beckett's whole thing was here's three hours
Starting point is 00:19:15 of men eating dog biscuits inside the dustbin and you're going to sit and watch this and then you go what was that about and it's like that's the feeling of you being alive you stupid cunt and it's kind of that's the feeling of you being alive, you stupid cunt. Yeah. And it's kind of like that.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Are you familiar? So you'll all be coming. I feel really sorry for the people going, going to get a look at Robbie Sheehan in the new play. And it's used for dog biscuits. Slightly more brief than three hours. Are you doing an abridged version? No, Endgame is one of the shorter ones.
Starting point is 00:19:49 It's about an hour and 20, straight through. Have you ever seen or heard of Beckett's play Crap's Last Tape? Yeah. I've never seen it, but I've... I mean, I know of it, and I've seen clips, but I've never actually seen it live. I'd love to see it live. I ended up doing a podcast on it before so here's what I love about crap's last tape so Beckett's it's a Beckett play
Starting point is 00:20:12 and Beckett's whole thing like I said is absurdity things that are absurd and ridiculous and this was 1955 so he made a play and all it is is it's a man on stage and he has a microphone and he has a tape recorder and what he does is he talks into the tape recorder on his own every day and then listens to it back and that's just everyone with a podcast now good self exactly but that's all it is in 90 it's just a it's a fucking play about a man with a podcast that no one listens to so there's loads of them but But in 1955, the very concept of this, Beckett was rubbing his hands together going, I'm going to fucking
Starting point is 00:20:49 freak him out with this. Beckett was always interested in taking things away from actors, you know, from human beings. Taking away the ability to walk, or the ability to sit down, or taking away actors' bodies. There's another play, I might get this wrong now.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Is this The Lips? There's another play called Nor Eye, yeah. Yeah. It's just literally a mouth on stage, you know. So he's always kind of hampering. He's kind of just taking bits away
Starting point is 00:21:14 of things that sort of, I suppose, things that we all take for granted to some degree because I think... It's the same way, it's right, it's minimalism,
Starting point is 00:21:22 stripping things back as much as possible. Stripping things right, right back and even plot, you know. There's very, very little minimalism, stripping things back as much as possible. Stripping things right, right back, and even plot, you know, there's very, very little plot to be found in Samuel Beckett plays, you know, so it's just this sort of mad race through, I don't know, sort of the existential ideas,
Starting point is 00:21:37 humour, sort of just like this kind of meandering, twisting turn, because I kind of have, I suspect that he resented having been born. You know, I really think... There's a bang of that off him, am I right? Yeah. And he's... By all accounts, he was funny, like going out to the pub and having a pint and stuff, but behind it, the humour was sort of
Starting point is 00:21:55 fuelled by the fact that he was engendered to this world. The greatest Samuel Beckett fact of all time, he drove the wrestler Andre the Giant to school when he was a child. You don't know that! There's a podcast in this, surely.
Starting point is 00:22:13 You don't know that! No. So Samuel Beckett lived in France and Beckett would be like just going to get his morning fucking coffee or paper and he'd be driving along and he'd be like fuck
Starting point is 00:22:26 me that child is huge because andre the giant was like eight foot tall and when he was like 10 he was seven foot tall so beckett's driving along in france fuck that's a massive child so he kept going past this huge child until one day he just stops and just says hark huge child man into the car oh back when people so it was fucking Andrew and Beckett
Starting point is 00:22:51 back when people said hark now that's not a direct quote I'd still love to I'm assuming that's what Beckett said but it was
Starting point is 00:23:01 Andrew the Giant so Andrew the Giant was like used to get lifts to school from Samuel fucking Beckett what did they talk about you under like
Starting point is 00:23:09 I would love imagine imagine there's a play there's a play there is a play someone has to have that's rotting
Starting point is 00:23:17 in a drawer somewhere someone has definitely written that or that you know that Sky that programme on Sky where they get they get like urban
Starting point is 00:23:25 legends about celebrities and they dramatize it. What? Yeah. Like the Richard Gere one. Does anyone know the name of that? No? I heard it up there. Jeremy Renner? Urban myths. Do they call it urban myths?
Starting point is 00:23:42 So anyway, like Is it just about... So when 9-11 like um so when 9-11 happened so when 9-11 happened michael jackson and liz taylor were in new york and they couldn't get a taxi or even a driver because 9-11 was happening so the two of them had to share a car out of new york michael jackson and fucking liz taylor so they dramatize that it's Michael Jackson and Liz Taylor with actors playing them or the best one is
Starting point is 00:24:08 so Bob Dylan in like 1980 that's not maybe they were friends though I mean they're both ultra famous do you know what was it Liz Taylor
Starting point is 00:24:16 or was it Liza Minnelli it was Liza Minnelli Liza Minnelli but then another one right so Bob Dylan in like 1984. Bob Dylan's a bit eccentric. So he was hanging around with Dave Stewart from the Eurythmics.
Starting point is 00:24:35 And Dave Stewart just said to him, Oh yeah, I live in Birmingham. You should call sometime. So Bob Dylan out of nowhere decides to get on a plane by himself tells no one goes to Birmingham and has the wrong address and then just calls to someone's house in a suburb and says is Dave there but the person who lived in the house happened to actually be called Dave so his wife answers the door and she's like... That's Bob Dylan.
Starting point is 00:25:07 It's fucking Bob Dylan. Now, Bob Dylan has been famous for so long, he's not really absorbing the situation. So the wife says, Dave's at work right now, but he'll be back soon. You can wait inside there. So now Bob Dylan's sitting in some lad
Starting point is 00:25:21 called Dave's living room in Birmingham. He looks at his records. It's a shit ton of Bob Dylan records. And some poor cunt who was a welder, who was a huge Bob Dylan fan, comes home and Bob Dylan's sitting in his fucking living room. Incredible.
Starting point is 00:25:38 And that's a real thing that happened. And it took about 10 minutes for him to go, no, I'm actually looking for Dave from the Eurythmics, but I enjoyed this conversation incredible so they dramatized that you know wow
Starting point is 00:25:49 I want I don't drop a name here well since you're fucking he's famous like you're properly when you're properly famous it's not name dropping
Starting point is 00:25:57 years ago I worked with Nicolas Cage and he told me that he for a while hung out with Eddie Van Halen oh wow and they used to
Starting point is 00:26:05 just like get on the beer together and have the crack and then play guitars and oh my god just jamming in nick's house and nick said he staggered off to bed one night and then he woke up in the middle of the night like like screaming guitar he went down to his living room and there was eddie van halen on his knees serenading his bulldog like it's like in the living room and there was Eddie Van Halen on his knees, serenading his bulldog. It was like in the living room. And then later he said he called Eddie Van Halen because he'd gone to church and had the holy bread. And then later had some sort of food poison. And then he puked up the holy bread.
Starting point is 00:26:44 So Eddie Van Halen is shredding and puking Christ in your living room. No, no, no. Nicholas Cage was puking Christ. Nick Cage, right, had been to church and then later been sick and sicked up the Holy Bread, right? And then... Now, that means he's a Protestant. Yeah, exactly. Well, he is a Protestant. Yeah, because you or I,
Starting point is 00:27:00 you're not going to start going, I puked a communion wafer. Because you know you're just going to go, I fuckinguked a communion wafer because you know you're just going to go I fucking puked Christ I better keep it under wraps that Catholic shit will come up literally
Starting point is 00:27:12 guilt but anyway so he called Eddie Van Halen he was like I feel really weird about it man you know I had this this holy bread and it came up
Starting point is 00:27:20 and I don't know what that's supposed to symbolise I mean I don't know if I'm supposed to go to church more and he goes wait a minute you're one of those religious freaks? He's like, well, yeah. And he goes, ah, screw it, man. I didn't know that about you. Boom, hung up the phone.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Never spoke to him ever again. He was great, Crack. He was full of stories like that. Nicolas Cage. Yeah, yeah. He'd tell you stories all the time. he was grey crack he was full of stories like that Nick Cage yeah yeah he'd tell you stories all day long
Starting point is 00:27:50 is he a nice chap he seems like a nice chap yeah wonderful sort of truly in love with the sort of magic of the world he's a bit of a druid
Starting point is 00:27:57 Nick Cage did you see that his latest film did anyone see that film Pig where he plays this sort of kind of ex-celebrity chef
Starting point is 00:28:06 in Oregon who's gone out to essentially be a truffle hunting man with a pig. And the film was sort of, whatever, but Cage in it was like,
Starting point is 00:28:18 oh, absolutely beautiful performance. And it jogged my memory. The thing with Nicolas Cage in my opinion he just plays Nicolas Cage he's got a powerful life force do you know what I mean oh yeah
Starting point is 00:28:32 if you put Nic Cage into a film it does the same thing that Salt does to a plate of chips absolutely do you know what I mean hits the nail on the head
Starting point is 00:28:42 for flavour yeah yeah but you do too much I always felt that I'd love to see the film being John Malkovich except it's not John Malkovich
Starting point is 00:28:51 it's Nicolas Cage being Nicolas Cage he would have been just better at it it's like he would have turned it up another notch you know
Starting point is 00:28:58 that could well happen do you know what I mean if you wrote that script that's something I'm sure Nicolas Cage would probably consider doing. He's just finished filming a movie called The Unbearable Weight of Immeasurable Talent
Starting point is 00:29:12 starring himself as himself. It's not a Charlie Kaufman film, is it? I don't know. I'm not sure. I'm not too sure. What a fucking name for a film. I think we're due an interval now, are we? Hark, people who work at Vicar Street, are we due an interval? Hark! I hear their drums!
Starting point is 00:29:32 So we're going to have a little interval. You can have a gentle pint, and me and Robbie will be back out in about 10, 15 minutes, all right? It's so nice to see you all alive and well. So we're going to take a small little break right now so we can have our ocarina pause the ocarina pause is where I play a Spanish clay whistle
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Starting point is 00:33:59 Support independent podcasts. Follow me on Instagram, BlindBuyBo Club. Follow me on Twitch, twitch. Ball Club. Follow me on Twitch, twitch.tv forward slash the Blind Boy Podcast. Now let's get back to the chat with the wonderful Robbie Sheehan. So I did have questions. Do you know, do you know about a load of people asking me about Robbie? Go on. So do you remember, so I did a Rubber Bandits sketch called The Rubber Bandits Guide to Halloween in 2013. And in this sketch, we interviewed a poster of you. Really?
Starting point is 00:34:34 Wait, you haven't seen this. I'm honoured. You haven't seen this. No. But here's the mad thing, right? So we interviewed a poster of you and Mr. Chrome played the part of you. It was RTE budget shit, right? So RTE have no fucking money.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Fair play to a national broadcaster, right? So they do a guide to Halloween, go out onto the streets of Dublin, try to do sketch comedy. So we were literally at the stage where they wouldn't pay for any props. The whole sketch ends with Mr. Chrome falling on 24 eggs.
Starting point is 00:35:11 We had to do it once because they wouldn't pay for 50 eggs. Seriously. Seriously. And we had to do it on the grounds of RTE because they wouldn't pay for location. This was 2013, height of the recession. 50 eggs.
Starting point is 00:35:26 You want 50 eggs? So we had to do 24 eggs in one scene. So anyway, we were starving for jokes. And while we were interviewing people in like Grafton Street, we saw a poster of you. It was a Robbie Sheehan calendar. Oh, the calendars followed me around for years.
Starting point is 00:35:47 But so while we're interviewing it, and this was 2013, we said, Robbie Sheehan, what's your next project? And the answer that your character in our universe gave was, two words for you, man, or three words for you, man, saucy time travel. And then we said said what do you mean Robbie and then your character said I go back in time and fuck men and then a bunch of people said this is actually the the plot to an umbrella yeah it's yeah it is it's pretty bang-on and loads of people say to me all the time they
Starting point is 00:36:23 think like did you did you know something in advance and you had told me the plot of Umbrella Academy in 2013? And I'm trying to go, he wasn't even on, you were on Love Head
Starting point is 00:36:32 at that time. Here's a bit of trivia for you. The, originally in the lead up to doing Umbrella Academy, Klaus goes back to Vietnam and then, but,
Starting point is 00:36:42 like, you don't know that bit yet. You just see him hanging around this old folks home, and sort of kind of leering at this elderly Vietnamese lady, and then it's revealed that he goes back, and he had a relationship with a woman, and they had a child, but he had to kind of get back to the present before, whatever, the Saigon Tet, or whatever it was, so then Steve Blackman called me up and was like, what if you had like a, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:08 affair with an American GI instead? I was like, yeah, that could be quite interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it just kind of seemed like a more interesting thing. So you're saying that Steve Blackman watched our sketch, the rubber bandit's guide to Halloween from 2013? I think he probably did. He's probably an avid Rubber Bandits fan. But so, yeah, that took a gay turn quite late in the game, really.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Yeah. What has the Umbrella Academy has kind of really changed things for you internationally, I'm guessing? It's that distribution, man. The Netflix shit. Holy shit, yeah. It really has. Netflix is in like 190 countries or something. So it's great, you know.
Starting point is 00:37:46 But how are you finding, like, you're just a normal lad from Portlaoise. Like... Normal-ish? Normal-ish, like... Look at the pants I'm wearing, for Christ's sake. Look, okay. You could get arrested for less in Portlaoise.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Certainly in Mount Malik. But like... Go on, Mount Malik! Hey, you know what? I took a ridiculous route from Dublin to Portlaoise, certainly in Mount Malick but like Go on Mount Malick Hey you know what, I took a ridiculous route from Dublin to Portlaoise and was driving somebody foreign and they were looking at me like, are you from Portlaoise? Took the wrong
Starting point is 00:38:15 motorway for some reason and then ended up going through Mount Malick which has grown exponentially since I was there it's like big now, it's like Portlaoise since I was there. It's like big now. It's like Port Leash when I was a kid. Yeah, exactly. Have you got a good super value?
Starting point is 00:38:32 Yeah. Not as good as Port Leash, though. How do you find fame? I mean, even when you go to Port Leash, do people leave you alone? Are people sound or you know people know they don't leave me alone but here's the you know they're they're resoundingly lovely and charming and often chronically apologetic for having you know come over to the dinner table or whatever it is or
Starting point is 00:39:04 good but like there's a party that like Oh Robbie would you mind can I get a for having, you know, come over to the dinner table or whatever it is. But, like, there's a part of me that... Is that like, oh, Robbie, would you mind, can I get a little photograph? Yeah, you know, there's a slight weariness that kicks in after the 10th photograph of the day. But that's kind of only Portlaoise, to be honest with you, because I suppose I'm from there, so it's like, oh, there he is!
Starting point is 00:39:21 But you'd assume that your hometown leaves you alone. Like, now now I'm not at your level of fame I'm just a man on the internet from Limerick but there's people in Limerick
Starting point is 00:39:32 who they don't know me but they I'd be walking down the street without my bag yeah and they're like I mean a lot of people
Starting point is 00:39:40 people leave me alone in Limerick in Limerick a lot of folks must know what you look like now everyone in Limerick. In Limerick, a lot of folks must know what you look like now. Everyone in Limerick knows who the fuck I am. Except my neighbour. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:39:53 The bag is a statement to folks of Limerick that you sort of don't want that aspect of fame. But you know what? I must say, I must preface all this by saying there's an aspect of that that I really, genuinely love. Now, there you go. Because I sat down and meditated on it
Starting point is 00:40:09 a few years ago, especially after the second series of Umbrella went like, fame-wise. I was like, yeah, this is great, but it's also strange
Starting point is 00:40:17 because I'm being treated very differently by people now. And sort of like, you know, if you're being treated differently than normal, it feels dehumanizing straight away. And you go, oh, you know if you're being treated differently than normal it feels
Starting point is 00:40:25 dehumanizing straight away and you go oh you know this this is different but i sat down and thought about it and relaxed and thought you know if i accept this wholeheartedly and embrace this i swear to god people are incredibly trusting really forthcoming and you know as a creative person writing and stuff you can get you stuff you can get very very interesting things out of people who are like want to share things with you and honestly up until recently
Starting point is 00:40:54 when I was away working I'd go back to London and that would be my base where people are profoundly indifferent to one another in public spaces which I think Irish people find quite startling and quite troubling. I certainly did, you know, where people are so, the indifference is so studied and so pointed when you're there.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Over there. It hurts afterwards. It's terrifying, yeah. It wears on me spiritually. And so fame became like a window through. So are British people like, oh it's rubbish Ian? Less so in London because the icicle screens between people are so intense. I once sat down in Soho eating a croque monsoeur.
Starting point is 00:41:39 A what? A croque monsoeur, it's a French sandwich with bechamel sauce. It's your man who they named Croque Park after. You know your man, croque monsoire. But anyway, I was sitting down. From Burgundy. Sitting down with this fucking croque monsoire, a lovely ham sandwich with bechamel sauce,
Starting point is 00:41:56 sans egg. Sans egg? If you put an egg on it, it's croque madame. But I'm sitting down, sitting down, and I fucking love these sandwiches. What are they, cheese and bacon? It's cheese, bacon, bechamel sauce, right? So I'm sitting down, and I was looking forward to this,
Starting point is 00:42:11 because I'm not in London loads, and I'd gone specifically here, and I got a lovely seat by the window, sitting down with the croque-manceau, fucking Benedict Cumberbatch. Walks past, and has a good old look at my croque-manceau and licks his lips and walked on and I can't he's like I haven't eaten one of those and five years. Yes. Yes. Yes. Oh God. He fucking coveted my croque monsoire
Starting point is 00:42:46 with his British tongue. But it made me realise afterwards it's like that could have been anyone. But it's like it's Soho. There's Benedict Cumberbatch.
Starting point is 00:42:57 No gives a shit. It's a story. Half an hour later there's Vic Reeves in a comic book shop. Yeah. Do you know what? I nearly got
Starting point is 00:43:03 well we sort of decided against it ultimately we thought it would be confusing but Vic Reeves was going to do some. Do you know what? I nearly got, well, we sort of decided against it ultimately. We thought it'd be confusing, but Vic Reeves was going to do some artwork for my book. Fuck off! Yeah, yeah. I was a couple of New Year's Eves ago and we got far too drunk together down in... You did in your hoop. Yeah. You got to meet Vic Reeves.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Yeah, man. I'd say I'd love to meet him. Is he the type of person who wouldn't like being people coming up saying hello to him? I think he would like it. I think he's a very outgoing individual. He's a very sort of people, you know, sort of charming. He loves being at
Starting point is 00:43:34 parties. He loves being surrounded by people. So I suppose there's an aspect of him that hopefully loves it. Otherwise, he's tormented his entire life, you know. But it's a weird thing because some people like, so you have the type of personality where you enjoy it I do because you know I you know you learn the tools of it how to politely gets people to fuck off you know but in the meantime you're like yeah you know you
Starting point is 00:43:58 can sort of play with people and have a laugh and kind of riff off their nervousness and you know there's a there's a whole little microcosm of creativity that can happen right let's see i'm gonna ask some quick uh this is a weird question are these from the folks these are from the instagram big large type um ask him about his memories of puck fair as a young fella goat goat emoji also and he's oh we we already covered Nicolas Cage. So Puck Fair is a young lad. Goat emoji. For those of you
Starting point is 00:44:30 who don't know the great sort of vaguely pagan festival that happens in Kilorglen in Kerry. Puck Fair. We've got some high claps over there. They're probably from Kerry. Where they make a wild mountain goat king for
Starting point is 00:44:45 three days in Kilorgland. And they put a golden crown on his head and they put him on a 20-foot stand in the middle of town, because that's the town where my father's nearest from. And so we used to go down there on summer holidays. And it was mega-cracked. Like, the whole town would
Starting point is 00:45:01 be wedged with people. No! Exactly. And, uh oh it was mega i mean i had my wallet stolen a few times down there like lifted off me but it's a kind of a horse and donkey fair and it's like every pub is wedged to the rafters and there's kiosks selling all sorts of stuff and it's everybody's just having a massive hoolie around the goat. And if you ask anyone down there, they're not really sure why there's a goat. No one can...
Starting point is 00:45:33 Very few people know the etymology of the goat. I don't know it. I do, I do. Oh, really? Apparently, how it started was it was around the time of Cromwell, right? Oh, yeah. So the Brits would have been invading various villages.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Now, this is one of those things you can't... It's not proven, but this is the story. So apparently, the Cromwell's forces were coming towards the village in Kerry, and they had disturbed a herd of goats. And because the people in the village knew that these wild goats would never come into town, this wild goat comes in, and people went, something's not right here.
Starting point is 00:46:10 And they're like, why is this wild goat here? And then they went, fuck, the Brits are coming. So they all escaped. Natural next thought. They escaped and they were never massacred in the Cranwellian invasion. They were never massacred. And from then on, they said, let's get a wild goat and put him up really high and get pissed.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Yeah, yeah. Because we weren't killed. There was one version of that story I heard, which was a goat came running into town and warned everyone that Oliver Cromwell was like, a talking goat. Alright.
Starting point is 00:46:43 But that actually does, that sounds kind of, that sounds more believable, more legit. But again, with stories like, when you hear a story, when you hear a piece of history that's really interesting, I'm always sceptical of it. Like down in Ballin Spittle in West Cork. Myself and my mother went past there recently
Starting point is 00:46:59 and we stopped at this Virgin Mary statue, which in the early 80s apparently moved, right? And it created all this traffic and this sensation. And there's all these pictures that are in frames next to the Virgin Mary of like hundreds and hundreds of people all just standing there in the rain, waiting for her to move again. And all these chip vans and burger vans and stuff around. You're like, this is one enterprising chip van restaurant owner fella who decided to spread a bit of lore about the Virgin Mary. Yeah, I need to look into the moving statues. Yeah, this...
Starting point is 00:47:38 I mean, because it's one of those things that... Like, it was the 80s. The internet had been invented by then. Like, I mean... What the fuck are we at? Yeah. And I think people just wanted something. They really wanted something.
Starting point is 00:47:53 They wanted something. I mean, sometimes I compare it to Ireland's corporate tax race. Well, if you think of... That's the new moving statue. Well, now... So if you're down... That's the new moving statue. Well, now... So if you... All right, if you're down in Kerry and you go, there's a statue and it's moving and it's of Christ's mother.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Yeah, and you say it with enough earnestness. Then everyone's going to be like, fuck me, I want to go to Ireland. Well, yeah. So then they got rid of the moving statues and said, instead, why don't you just have a company here and you don't have to pay a tax? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Do you think it was Charlie Hockey disseminating this information through the Irish countryside to boost the economy? I became obsessed with relics there for a while you know, Catholic relics. In particular the saga of Christ's foreskin.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Yeah. What? I did a podcast on it but so come here and i haven't heard that so here's the deal right so christ was was jewish christ so christ was circumcised this is what happened he was born before christ like woke up and went fuck me god's my dad he was just like a jewish baby who had the skin of his dick cut off so then people were like hold on a minute you can't just go cutting the top of christ's dick off and then not have that as this really holy thing so what happened was because then because christ has sent it to heaven you see So how do you remove his dick,
Starting point is 00:49:26 the piece of his dick when he's a child, and then he goes on? It causes the whole of Catholicism to fall apart. Do you think his dick skin was just going up, ascending? Well, here we go. Here we go. So what happened was, all throughout the Middle Ages,
Starting point is 00:49:42 someone claimed to have, like, I've got the fucking like I've got the fucking I've got the top of Christ's dick and it became a fucking relic and the first one was the 12th century King Charlemagne of France gifted somebody you know Christ's
Starting point is 00:49:58 foreskin as a relic but what happened was other foreskins emerged around Europe so for about 400, 500 years, there was all these competing versions of Christ's foreskin, where people were saying, we have the real one, we have the real one. But the beauty of a relic in medieval Europe is it was quite similar to Ireland's corporate tax rate. If you, seriously, if you had a a village and all of a sudden you've got a class relic
Starting point is 00:50:27 like in Dublin you've got Saint Valentine's heart what the fuck is that mad shit Saint's heart but yeah Saint Valentine's heart
Starting point is 00:50:34 is like up the road wow yeah what church is it in Christchurch the heart of a fucking saint can you go in and see it
Starting point is 00:50:42 you can amazing you can you could headbutt it. But like, he was kicked out of Christchurch for headbutting St. Valentine's heart. And the guards came along and they shot him.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Robbie Sheehan was his name. I'll be doing that in promotion next week. But anyway, right. So there's all these foreskins around Europe. And what they used to do with relics was if you had a decent relic in your village, it meant
Starting point is 00:51:11 that your village all of a sudden became very important economically because people would travel to see the relic. So it was used like that. Totally. And, you know, probably Ballin Spittle is probably another example of it. It's the same shit. But what happened was the church eventually had to address the foreskin. And this is probably another it's the same shit but what happened was the church eventually had to address the foreskin and this is the catholic church's literal response and i'm not fucking
Starting point is 00:51:31 joking they said no no no no there's no such thing as christ's foreskin because he ascended to heaven so here's what happened christ he did have the top of his dick chopped off. It wandered the earth for 33 years. And then when Christ died, his foreskin separately ascended with him and became the rings of Saturn. That's the fucking actual Catholic church explanation for Christ's foreskin. That's... I mean... Isn't that mad? Catholic Church! Do you think they... Do you think they ran that by the Pope before they put it out? Just read that. Yeah, is that alright? It's one of those... Yes, yes. But that's the class thing
Starting point is 00:52:23 about the Pope. The Pope... So the Pope has the ability to have revelations. Don't we all? When the church doesn't have an answer to something, the Pope walks off into a room and says, it was revealed to me. Like, Holy Mary. There was nothing in the Bible about how did Holy Mary die. So it was a Pope in the 1940s went into a room and said
Starting point is 00:52:49 She actually just shot into the sky People yeah, and people were going like you mean her soul Pope like our son. No, no, no, no, no She fucking shot into the sky like how do you know this it was revealed to me in the row? legit into the sky. How do you know this? It was revealed to me in the room. Wow. Legit. Like Munra, the ever-living. Yeah. By the power of Grayskull.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Wow. I mean, they've got balls to put that out, isn't it? They're like, yeah. It's the Catholic Church.
Starting point is 00:53:18 They don't give a fuck. We are the truth. Yeah. Someone on Instagram was wondering, were you a fan of My Chemical Romance Growing up and does it feel weird
Starting point is 00:53:27 Now working with Gerard Way Thank you Yeah like I wasn't a massive fan Of My Chemical Romance growing up to be honest But I found him I was like I was quite bedazzled By him especially in that music video The Black Parade.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Do you remember that one? Yeah. He was so beautiful and so androgynous. It was like, whoa, who's that gorgeous creature? So I suppose having that childhood concept still sort of drifting around in the back of my head while I'm talking to the man, it can be quite odd, you know?
Starting point is 00:54:03 Could you ask him if he finds the backlash from wearing typically non-masculine clothing to events difficult to deal with? How dare you? This is the most macho I've looked in several days. I think you look fucking fantastic. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:54:19 No, no, people, people... See? No answer need be given past that, you know? Do you dress yourself? Yeah. No, but seriously, like... Yeah, no, I... Yeah, yeah, you know, I just... Because I...
Starting point is 00:54:36 You know, mostly in thrift shops and stuff. I don't like paying much money. You have a natural sense of style then. I must say, other than... Actually, I bought them shoes today and they were frankly an inordinate amount of money but i thought i can get away with them as a business expense because i i have this gig tonight and you know the tax man will leave out the detail that it's just audio right i do that with diabolite and alka-seltzer
Starting point is 00:55:02 jesus i do business expense but you know i hope that's not the only thing you're you're writing off how much diorolite and alka-seltzer are you buying per per annum i guess um it's a it's a foolish thing i suppose. I just kind of got to the point where I'm like fuck it if you hang
Starting point is 00:55:28 if everyone have a hangover I'm like Jesus I'd love some Alka-Seltzer and Diarrhole and I hated
Starting point is 00:55:35 the feeling of having a hangover and being like it's not here. So then I said why don't I like from now on every single gig
Starting point is 00:55:43 I do ever just say to them they have to give me a box of Diarrhole and Alka-Seltzer but I don't I, like, from now on, every single gig I do ever, just say to them, they have to give me a box of diarylite and Alka-Seltzer. But I don't need that much. So I just have, like, six drawers at home that's full of diarylite and Alka-Seltzer. And it's one of those ones where, like, if I ever just died suddenly... Do you know the way, like, when Bin Laden died, they went in and looked at everything he owned and scrutinized it. Now, I'm not saying that would
Starting point is 00:56:07 happen if I died, but I wouldn't like the guards coming in and going, he had six drawers of Alcocer and fucking diorolite. What did Bin Laden have? Bin Laden had lots of hair dye, which the CIA
Starting point is 00:56:23 used to go, ha ha, jihad, he was vain. And he had the internet meme from 2011, Charlie bit my finger. Saved on his hard drive. Saved on his hard drive. You know, because he's bored. He's hiding out. He's on lockdown in a cave. He had a letter.
Starting point is 00:56:45 He had a letter that he never sent addressed to the Irish people. Did he? No, no. So, Bin Laden had a letter addressed to one of his clerics about the Irish people. Where Bin Laden was going, I was reading about these Irish people. And they seem to love religion and terrorism. And...
Starting point is 00:57:04 Well, I mean... Yeah. So, Bin... He's not wrong there. Bin Laden was like, fuck me, man. They love the old religion and terrorism, just not our type.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Maybe. Maybe we should team up. Maybe. Let's go over and have a bit of a chat. So, that was one thing. So, he was doing that, dyeing his hair and looking at Charlie bit my finger.
Starting point is 00:57:24 And the CIA released it all. They're quite relaxed at airport security as well. But if you found out he had six drawers full of diurylite and Alka-Seltzer about poor old Bin Laden, you'd be going, what was up with him? What condition is his rectum in? Yeah. But I don't need that much. So Robbie, if you ever need diurylite or Alka-Seltzer,
Starting point is 00:57:44 gone off, gone off Alka-Seltzer from the 2017 Bulmer's Comedy Festival. Yeah, could make a sort of a thoughtful Christmas gift, perhaps. Why did they make Robert Sheehan wear a leather jacket in Love Haze? I don't know. It was an odd, like, I loved your performance in Love Haze, but I don't know. It was an odd, like, I loved your performance in Love, Hate, but I don't understand. I don't understand why, like,
Starting point is 00:58:12 you're there as this fucking hard Dublin gangster, but they dressed you up like an engineering student. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Do you know what it is? It's often where people in film and television are quite contrary, so they'll go, you know what I mean? Do you know what it is? It's often where people in film and television are quite contrary. So they'll go, you know, they'll expect all of the characters to be dressed all rough and typically gangster. So we're going to go in another way, you know.
Starting point is 00:58:36 And it's often that thinking that arrives at... Dress them up like a fresher. CIT engineer. Yeah. Love-hate was fantastic. Yeah. And then, you know what's mad? You probably know this.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Who was it that Cillian Scott played? Tommy. Tommy. He's former Minister for Housing, Owen Murphy's brother in real life. Yeah, he is, yeah. In fact, Cillian... Not mad!
Starting point is 00:59:01 Cillian Scott, who played Tommy, his name is Cillian Murphy, so he changed it for obvious reasons. But he's Cillian Scott, who played Tommy, his name is Cillian Murphy, so he changed it for obvious reasons. But he's Cillian with a K. We can't have that in Ireland. There's like 20 people in Ireland in total. You can't have two actors called Cillian Murphy, one with a C and one with a K.
Starting point is 00:59:16 You know what I mean? You just can't. But yeah, Owen Murphy is his older brother. I met Owen Murphy when he was the counsellor for Ranelagh. Did you? Yeah, yeah. And then he became... Did he the councillor for Ranelagh. Did you? Yeah, yeah. And then he became... Did he try and turn you
Starting point is 00:59:27 into a landlord and suck your dick? And then, you know, suddenly he opened the paper and he's standing shoulder to shoulder with Leo Varadkar. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Disappointing stuff. I gather he's popular in this crowd. No. Good Lord. Jesus Christ. Landlords are not popular. Let's see now.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Do you know what's happened here? So the type is so big that now I can't read it. It looks like you've got one of them iPhones. You see older folks at the airport or whatever. And you can just see four words on the screen. And they're reading their sad little texts. Did you take your medicine today? Yeah, with the milk bottle glasses on.
Starting point is 01:00:20 God bless. Yeah, that's mad. You'd get the occasional. That's one of those moments you know when you go into a taxi and the taxi driver has the they've got their phone there but then they have the large type turned on and you just start going oh no they're a little bit too old for this job they should be retired but they obviously can't yeah they're supposed to be like scanning the environment for things we're going to crash exactly and i'm going if this
Starting point is 01:00:43 needs his fuck needs to read this, this big, what happens if a deer jumps into the middle of the road? Yeah. You know. And then also a pang of me that goes, you know, I'm on the road to that as well, possibly. Do you know what I mean? I'm sort of
Starting point is 01:00:59 heading down the road to increasingly large text on my iPhone. I'm basically getting older and will die in the end. That's kind of... Actually, on the subject of death, how would you feel if, like, what famous celebrity death would you... like, do you ever think, right, okay, you're Robbie Sheehan, how do you not want to die? I was on a plane with Jedward once. They just happened to be on my plane. Pilot and co-pilot? And I was just going like oh
Starting point is 01:01:36 man I'd hate for this plane to crash. And Mr. Chrome was on it as well because I'm just going fuck me. I can't. The Rubber Bandits and Jedward dying together on the same plane. You'd be like a footnote in Jedward's death article. Jedward and novelty singers, the Rubber Bandits, die on plane.
Starting point is 01:01:58 I was just like, can I die on a different plane, please? So is there ever, like, how would you feel about Robert Sheehan was driving along the motorway from port leash and then his taxi driver was distracted by massive text and they hit a deer yeah yeah it wouldn't be ideal i suppose to get like death by antlers suddenly do you know what's mad the farm that I'm currently living on has deer in captivity
Starting point is 01:02:26 on the farm with the horses. It's very interesting. There's just deer wandering around. Malled by deer. Yeah. After trying to cuddle one in like a paddock. Yeah. It could happen.
Starting point is 01:02:41 How are you getting on with all those animals? Yeah, good. Yeah yeah I did an Instagram to try to boost sales of my book I thought you were going to say boost their self esteem boost my book's
Starting point is 01:02:54 self esteem oh shit you've got a book out oh yeah well kind of soonish but so I climbed in
Starting point is 01:03:02 with these emus and we've been warned that they could lash out at you if you're not careful if they think you've got food on you but actually this emu was wonderful he was quite media trained he just sort of stood there
Starting point is 01:03:14 next to me and I sort of like did different poses with this emu so we're getting on quite well did he have a name? Cookie Cookie? Cookie the emu
Starting point is 01:03:24 Cookie and it's a shame they're both males so they can't do little emus on quite well. Did he have a name? Cookie. Cookie? Cookie the emu. Cookie. And it's a shame they're both males so they can't do little emus. What are both of the emus names? I can't remember
Starting point is 01:03:31 the other one. It's in the brochure in the gaff. So you're staying in someone's gaff where they have a brochure with the emus names. Yeah, they've got
Starting point is 01:03:41 all the animals names. It's mad. It's so lovely. You've got a book of fucking short stories that you just wrote called Disappearing Act. Yeah, they've got all the animals' names. It's mad. It's so lovely. You've got a book of fucking short stories that you just wrote called Disappearing Act. Yes, indeed. And it's coming out now. It's in shops, isn't it? No, it's on
Starting point is 01:03:53 October the 22nd. October the 22nd. When Ireland reopens fully. Woo! So everybody can go get drunk in the old-fashioned way and then swing by the bookshop. So tell us, so this is a book of fiction,
Starting point is 01:04:10 you've written a book of fiction. Indeed. What made you want to write a book of short stories? You know, just writing for fun, you know, writing is a hobby. And actually finding writing as an interesting tool for acting because it's nice to kind of prep character
Starting point is 01:04:27 as opposed to what's written down on the script for you. You know what I mean? You could practice your lines all day, but the truth, you know, the good acting is done when you create a history for your character. Oh my God. You can just sit there writing memories
Starting point is 01:04:40 and nothing is wrong, you know? So you just, you do literally subconscious character research and that i suppose was a big aspect of kind of evolving into a book so when you if you're given a character in the script and you want to find this character you will go what you know how does this person like the taste of milk when they were seven yeah exactly you know i was talking to frankie boyle about the film the master yeah which is a film of joaquin phoenix a brilliant joaquin phoenix kind of stands like this in the film and it's because he drinks that what's it
Starting point is 01:05:16 called methylated spirits yeah which gives your kidneys awful pain and he's like he's just some beautiful little things that you can discover things about the character that will affect the posture affect the speed affect the movement affect the point of view affect everything
Starting point is 01:05:32 you know you can just discover it by writing it so where's the so what you're doing there is you're bringing your own creativity to a character
Starting point is 01:05:40 that maybe someone else has written yeah where how does that work in like so would you ever find a writer of a script getting precious about i've written this character and now robbie has come off and he's done his internal research on this character and what
Starting point is 01:05:56 robbie has presented is different to my vision of what the character will be yeah like what's that like one times out of a hundred that'll. But the other 99 times, they're incredibly pleased that you've come in with anything beyond what they've given you at all. Do you know what I mean? I'll be honest with you. The work ethic standard in television often is incredibly low. It's great. It's easy to, you know, stick out sometimes.
Starting point is 01:06:24 I'll be honest with you. I just mean that, like, it's really fun's easy to uh you know stick out sometimes i'll be honest with you that you know i just mean that like it's it's really fun to do that research and and it it it's all sort of bodes to the good you know yeah and it's that's why you know i'm not equating or comparing myself to daniel day lewis but he's somebody who you know considers his character like a real human being not just somebody who's reacting to somebody the way they were told to in a script. He suddenly goes, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is a human being who's had an entire life,
Starting point is 01:06:54 who has been under stress as a youth, who has a history, has memories, has stories to tell, has everything. So the fun in acting is often just coming up with all that stuff before you get there. And you'd be amazed how that sort of subconsciously informs the performance, you know? And is, have you
Starting point is 01:07:12 ever met Daniel Deleuze? No, I'd love to meet him. Does he live in Wicklow, I heard? I mean, he lives in Wicklow and he's a carpenter or something. Yeah, making shoes and cabinets. That's what I heard. Yeah. He's an interesting fellow. I heard yeah he's an interesting fellow I mean that's an interesting
Starting point is 01:07:27 approach though like no I've never thought like I've no experience with acting well I do like I've been on TV and stuff but I wouldn't call it acting
Starting point is 01:07:33 you could act under a stage name and nobody would know it was you or maybe they would I'm not sure em I might
Starting point is 01:07:41 I might put the fucking questions out into the audience now we have a question over here hold on we have to wait for the microphone are ye the nurses? yeah alright fair play to you
Starting point is 01:07:51 God bless we've trained for a year hold on fair play to you up the nurses you're after robbing the mic off your fucking friend for God's sake
Starting point is 01:08:04 she's trying to save her is what she's doing. We cover all aspects. We trained in Port Leach, Mullingar, Tullamore. I live in Dordale in Limerick. Go on. And now the girls have a question. I love that. Fair play to you.
Starting point is 01:08:19 Give you a bit of background. Thank you for that. That's lovely. Go on. Hi. Hi. background. Thank you for that. That's lovely. Go on.
Starting point is 01:08:24 Hi. First of all, my friend here, happy birthday to her, Emma. Happy birthday, Emma. Go on, Emma. It's comforting to know there are medical professionals in the house just in case things go awry. I fucking love it, man. Nurses having a night out at a podcast. Fucking class. Go on. My fucking love it, man. Nurse is having a night out at a podcast. Fucking class.
Starting point is 01:08:45 Go on. My second question is, I know the majority of us are probably here from Ireland, but, and we always like, very like, when we go abroad,
Starting point is 01:08:54 we're always like, oh, we're Irish because of this. Yeah. So I was wondering, both my boy and Robbie, what's your favourite memory of ye being like, I'm Irish because of this?
Starting point is 01:09:04 Because of like, something that happened in your past, your teenage years, your childhood years. I'm Irish because of this. That's a great question. No pressure. Great question. What unique aspect of your life happened, which is uniquely Irish,
Starting point is 01:09:22 that made you proud to be Irish in that moment? Which happened out foreign well you know this might sound like blowing smoke but when I went to the Blind Boy live podcast in Toronto having been there for about 5 months and I went
Starting point is 01:09:39 it was this real old beautiful opera house place in the east side of Toronto come in for your live gig. And then all of a sudden, like I'd just been living in Toronto, working doing telly day in, day out. Suddenly I walked into a room full of like 650 Irish people. And it was fucking brilliant.
Starting point is 01:09:57 It was such a fantastic night. And then Mr. Chrome came up to me without the bag on. And because I'd been sort of talking a few people I went oh and he went it's fucking I went oh yeah and then we went in backstage and it was just that was a beautiful night that sort of uh you know I suppose got me back into the into the cultural tempo of Irishness which I felt I didn't realize the cultural tempo of Irishness, which I felt I didn't realise I was needing so much. I didn't realise I was needing so much.
Starting point is 01:10:28 And it was brought to me by this man. So thank you, Blind Boy. Truly. It's happened in the recent past. For me, I suppose, I was over in
Starting point is 01:10:42 New York. I was doing in New York. I was doing a thing with MTV about 2011. And I'd gotten fucking ossified on Times Square at about three in the morning. And I was not a type of drunk that I'd be proud of. A type of drunk where I'm nearly crawling along with my hands, no, my fucking fingers. So I'm there on Times Square, it's like three in the morning, and my
Starting point is 01:11:07 hands are going and I can barely see, and then it's like, oh, that's the hoof of a horse, is it? And then I'm slowly, drunkenly climbing up a horse's leg, and then my hand is on a tie, and I'm effectively assaulting a policeman in New York.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Now the thing was, he could have shot me dead. But then he just goes, my grandmother's from Donegal! You're like, oh, thank God. So I didn't get arrested because all the fucking horrible racist American police have got Irish ancestors, and I got away with effectively, legally
Starting point is 01:11:46 assaulting him while I was drunk. So I suppose there's that. Lovely. I think that's all we have time for tonight because there's a bit of a curfew. Lads. First off, I fucking love gigging in Dublin.
Starting point is 01:12:07 This has been my first Dublin gig in two fucking years. Thank you so much. This was fantastic. Thank you! And thank you so much to Hollywood actor from Port Leash, Robbie Sheehan, for coming along. Lovely fella. God bless! So... actor from port lease robbie sheehan for coming along lovely fella god bless so thank you very much everybody there for listening to that podcast that was
Starting point is 01:12:33 unbelievable amount of fun that i had with robbie um it was an absolute privilege to do i hope you enjoyed that usually what i do at the very end of the podcast is I sign off and then I play for you a new song from my live twitch stream I'm not going to do that this week because the energy is too different the energy of that podcast was too vibrant and usually I like to play you a song after a podcast hug when I know that your heads are kind of in a more meditative listening mode and I don't think that podcast was that vibe
Starting point is 01:13:12 so next week I'll come back with a new song from Twitch so have a lovely week for yourselves notice the change in the weather there's going to be a little bit of a bite in the evening there's going to be the smoke in the air hangs There's going to be a little bit of a bite in the evening. There's going to be the smoke in the air
Starting point is 01:13:27 hangs differently at this time of year. Embrace it. Don't slip on any leaves. Don't step on any dog shit that's covered by a leaf. That's what you've got to watch out for really at this time of October, isn't it? That hidden dog shit underneath a brown leaf. Fuck that.
Starting point is 01:13:44 And the worst part about it as well is that like so it doesn't really start getting proper windy until like Halloween night so when you step in dog shit now that's like has a leaf over it it just smells worse because there's this humidity in the air that allows smells to climb
Starting point is 01:14:07 the smell of dog shit the molecules of it can climb into the air differently at this particular point of the year so mindfully enjoy the weather enjoy the autumn but don't get distracted by leaves up too high keep an eye on the leaves on the ground and watch out for that covert dog shit.
Starting point is 01:14:26 It's out there underneath a leaf somewhere. Alright, dog bless. Have a gorgeous week for yourselves. I'll see you next week. I'll be back with a hot take. Rock City, you're the best fans in the league, bar none.
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