The Blindboy Podcast - Stories for Geriatric Millennials
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Bull a bus you fussy gubnets. Welcome to the Blind By Podcast. If you're a brand new listener
maybe go and listen to some earlier podcasts. And if you're a regular listener, if you're
a ten foot enda, you know the crack. I don't have a hot take this week. Usually when I
don't have a hot take it's because I do have a hot take but it's not ready
to come out of the oven yet
a hot take is
an essay essentially
a one hour monologue essay
that has to have a
solid argument and a solid conclusion
and if I get a little hot take
if one arrives into my brain
I want to make sure I do it justice
so what I'm going to do this week instead is
unleash a series of mini hot takes
I have lots of little hot takes
that can't merit a full podcast
that I like to get out sometimes
so I'm going to explore a few of them
before I get into that
I want to reflect on the past week in Ireland. It's been a very emotional and sad week
in Ireland. Just a little heads up actually, for the next few minutes I'm going to be speaking
about violence towards women, just in case that's something you're not ready to hear or don't want
to listen to. I'll speak about it as responsibly and thoughtfully as I can. So sadly this week in
Ireland a young woman by the name of Aisling Murphy, she was a school teacher, was out jogging
by the canal in Tullamore and she was murdered and in Ireland there's been what can only be
called a collective grief, a collective moment of grief in the country with quite a lot of vigils and
people expressing grief. If you're from Ireland obviously you know this because this is all
anyone's been talking about. A lot of my listeners aren't from Ireland so might not be aware. It's
also brought into public conversation again. The issue of.
Women's safety.
If you listen to this podcast a lot.
You know I've spoken about.
My privilege while out jogging.
I've spoken about this a couple of times on this podcast.
That as a man when I'm out.
I run frequently.
And when I'm out running. frequently and when I'm out running
I never really have to think about my safety
my physical safety
every so often I might worry about
maybe my phone will get robbed
and what a terrible inconvenience that would be
but that's the extent of it
I'm not thinking about my physical safety
and sadly this isn't the case for women
women have
to consistently at all times worry about being approached being harassed being attacked or being
killed and this was really evident this week I mean not only with the public discussion that was going on because of the murder of Aisling Murphy,
but the knock-on effects on women's behaviour that I saw with my own eyes this week, which again really made me reflect on the privilege of not having to worry about this stuff.
Like, I was in the gym a few times this week and there was twice as many women there as there usually is.
Because the horror of what happened up in Tullamore, I guess made a lot of women just go,
I never feel safe when I'm out running, but I certainly don't feel safe this week.
So I'm just going to go to the gym instead.
I'm going to change and restrict my
behavior something that I as a man don't have to do another thing I noticed this week now why am
I saying this stuff I'm saying this stuff for men for the men who are listening so that you might
relate to my observations and this can result in behavioural change or greater awareness
and compassion. So another thing I noticed this week which this one just really got me in the
chest this one really knocked the wind out of me. So my regular running route I run on a very popular running route in Limerick by the river
where I've been doing it for years
and I do it a couple of times a week
so I'm very familiar with this route
I'm very familiar with the amount of people
that'll be there at certain times of day
certain types of people that will be there
and one thing I noticed on this route this week
that broke my fucking heart
the amount of
women of about
19, 20
who were out walking with their
dads and it really
stopped me in my tracks because
it's not something I see a lot of
you don't generally see
a young woman out walking
with her dad but I saw
a few of them and I suppose it got
me because okay there's the obvious element of the dad's out walking with the daughter to keep
them safe there's that but that's not what it was it was the horror of Ashley Murphy's murder has caused every parent in the country
to hold their daughters a little bit closer this week.
And that's what I saw when I saw all those
dads and daughters out walking.
It was two people appreciating the time
that they have with each other on this earth
and appreciating the love that they have for each other and this was instigated this week because of terror and then I had to do
self-reflection around that observation and why that observation was the one that got me in the
chest because effectively it was easier for me to empathize with the the fear of a father
a man than it was for me to empathize with the fear that the daughter feels
when simply being out walking by herself or jogging because like I said when I'm out running
I'm out jogging I'm not thinking about my personal
safety and I don't really have to. Put it this way if I said to myself I'm not going to go for a jog
this evening because I'm scared of being attacked that would be grounds for me to start using CBT on
myself. That would be evidence that my anxiety is returning because it would be an irrational fear
the threat of me coming under any harm while i'm out jogging is so small that to change my behavior
to accommodate that fear would be an anxiety response that i need to tackle whereas it's a
it's a realistic and reasonable threat assessment for a woman to be wary of going out for a run
threat assessment for a woman to be wary of going out for a run so i don't have any hot takes around this i don't want to have any hot takes around it um because it wouldn't be respectful
the the media this week unfortunately there's been quite a lot of irresponsible media around
ashlyn murphy's death and there's been quite a lot of
voyeurism in the media
that's been really fucking disappointing
and I'd just like to express my condolences
to Ashlyn Murphy's
family and her friends
and what I can
to use my platform here
to speak to the men who are listening
because
men tend not to listen to women.
We tend to listen to other men.
Which is number one thing to try and flag with yourself.
That's something I've had to flag with myself over the years.
Listen to women.
When women talk about their experiences and their fears of the threat of violence out in public.
Actually listen to women and believe their
experiences and if hearing me talking about it is making you go have a little eureka moment
then there's a beautiful starting point it shouldn't be i'm just translating shit that
women have said i'm translating it into man when women are expressing their fears don't put in and say not all men not all men not
all men means shut the fuck up that's what that means when a man says not all men what he's
actually saying is shut the fuck up i haven't listened to anything you've said and I've chosen to hear your fears as a personal attack on me.
Please be quiet.
So if you're the type of person who says not all men, just get it out of your vocabulary.
There's zero compassion, zero empathy in that statement.
And from the point of view of a woman who's been conscious of her safety,
statement and from the point of view of a woman who's been conscious of her safety it kind of has to be all men because how do you tell which which one is is going to hurt you and
which one isn't and if you're a conscientious man who legitimately wants to try and help and
create an environment that feels just a little bit safer,
then there's a few little tips that you can do.
And again, these tips come from women.
I'm just translating it into men.
I would have mentioned these tips back in March,
around the murder of Sarah Everard over in England.
But, so here's the thing.
As a man, if you're out walking,
if you're out running, you're out in public,
you're utterly harmless,
you're thinking about whatever the fuck is going on in your day,
you're listening to music, whatever.
But we're certainly not thinking about our personal safety
because we don't have to.
So because of that, we can have
a kind of a lack of self-awareness about our presence.
So if you're out and you see a woman keep your distance if I'm jogging right and I and it's a long path and there's a woman ahead
of me I flag up myself and I say to myself there's a woman walking ahead now and me running might
make her nervous so I'm going to make sure that there's appropriate
distance and that I'm not like running up the back of her and my head could be up my arse I
could be listening to a song listening to a podcast and I'm running at the back of a woman
oblivious while she's nervous and uncomfortable with good reason. So bring that into your awareness. Keep your distance.
Making a bit of noise can be good as well.
Jingling keys.
I don't mean using your voice.
Don't be like shouting at a woman saying,
hey, I'm behind you, don't worry.
Not that.
But like jingling keys, maybe if you're walking,
if you're walking down a street and it's you and it's a woman in front of you, maybe use that opportunity to take out your phone and ring your friend.
Because the sound of you being on a phone to your friend towards you and it's just ye on the street or if it's late at night cross the road when you cross the road with good distance that's like it alleviates any need for
anxiety and it's almost a signal to say that you're aware of the nervousness of the situation and you just cross the road also offer to walk your female friends home
offers
if they have to walk to a bus stop
anything like that
just ask
would you like me to walk you to your bus stop
is that ok
and then
this one seems obvious
but I don't think it is
to a lot of lads
because you see it too much
if you're out at night
and there's a woman on her own
it's after the pub or whatever
and you decide
I'm going to go over now
and talk to her
maybe don't
because in your mind
you could be thinking
sure fuck it this is harmless
I'm going over having a chat
but from her point of view
she doesn't know
are you harmful or not
so
your best intentions even if you're
being sound you're walking over to a situation whereby there's anxiety on that other person's
part for good reason so don't do that especially if the woman is a stranger move on with your night
get a kebab listen to women's experiences and bring into your self-awareness that 50% of the
population are dealing with a fear that you're not dealing with and bring that into your awareness
and have empathy around it and then allow that to inform and change your behavior and that message
there was for the lads who want to improve. The ones that I think I can reach.
And of course, if you see lads out in public harassing women, acting the absolute bollocks, intervene.
And place yourself physically between the woman and that man.
So I hope that was in some way helpful.
And I don't want to sound like I'm on a
judgmental high horse here
I grew up with the same system of toxic masculinity
I grew up
not having to think about any of this stuff
I grew up
saying misogynistic things
as a way to be accepted by lads
as a way to
hide my insecurities
or feelings of inadequacy.
I've been complicit in the system of misogyny,
especially growing up in an all-boys school,
from primary school all the way up to fucking secondary school.
I'm saying this shit because men listen to other men,
and I have a platform and men listen to this podcast.
I'm not looking for pats on the back.
I'm not looking for pats on the back.
And being a good boy who respects women that's not
what I fucking want
men listen to other men
so if you're a man listening to me and
some of this made sense stop listening
to me and now start listening to women
so I'm going to answer a couple of questions
because I keep getting asked questions
and I've picked some questions
that are related to.
Kind of miniature hot takes that I have.
That I can't do full podcasts on.
So one question I got was from Julie.
Who says blind but I'm in my 30s.
And I grew up with no internet and no mobile phones.
And I'm starting to forget what it was like.
I kind of remember it as being less stressful. Can you talk about it? So yeah this is something I think about frequently.
So if you're a geriatric millennial like myself I'm going to take you on a journey of nostalgia
and if you're if you're younger if you're like fucking in your early 20s and you grew up with
nothing but the internet then gather around the fire and get ready to listen to an old man tell
you about the before times like i'm i'm in my 30s so i'm like the internet has fucking changed
everything the internet is a is a industrial revolution size change in human history and
I'm at the exact age where I grew up with the internet but I remember when the internet wasn't
a thing and when mobile phones weren't a thing. So I remember those two completely separate ways
of living and I often find myself weighing up the pros and cons.
One thing we definitely lost as soon as the internet came along,
which I think is a bad thing,
is what I'd call cultural scarcity.
So I remember being a kid.
Like it's fucking mad when I think back
and I don't know how the fuck we did it
but like
when I was a child
if a song came on the TV or the radio
it could be the best song I've ever heard in my life
if I didn't get the name of that song
which I probably wouldn't have back then
because not every radio presenter said
that song was this or if it was on television it was in the middle of that song, which I probably wouldn't have back then, because not every radio presenter said that song was this
or if it was on television
it was in the middle of a film
that was it, the song was
gone, and this would happen all
the time, like I remember
being, oh it must have been
8 years of age, and
I was
walking down the road, and this car
pulled up at stoplights.
And it was a lot of lads inside and they were listening to techno music really loud.
And they must have been waiting at the stoplights for probably I'd say a minute.
Because it was enough time for me to listen to the tune that they were playing.
And in my little head I was just going, that's the coolest music I've ever heard.
That's the catchiest song I've
ever heard, so I waited there for
a minute and then the car
drove off and that was it
8 year old
me heard the best song he'd ever heard
and that was it
it was gone, there's no internet
there's nothing
so I couldn't get it out of my fucking head
then the thing is as well is that you've
heard it once so the song could could end up warping into something different in your own memory
so I had to muster up the courage as a child to go into a record shop in Limerick called
Empire Music and I used to walk up to the counter
to the lads behind the counter
and I'd have to say to them
I heard this song coming out of a car, it goes like this
and I'd start humming a techno
tune
and they were like
no, I don't know what that is, no no no
can you do it again, and then of course
while I'm doing it again, what they're actually doing is
bringing everyone else who works in the shop over so they can laugh at the child who's trying to do
a techno song with his voice and I used to keep doing it keep doing it until I eventually gave up
and then about three years ago I came across the song on YouTube in my fucking 30s. I'd forgotten about it.
The song was called Tears Don't Lie by Mark O.
Terrible song.
Very forgettable.
Kind of bubblegum Eurodance.
Worse than Scooter.
But like the idea that as I existed at a time that you could hear a song and it could be the best song
you've ever heard and then it's gone or same thing with a film like i didn't grow up with a vhs player
um and my dad for some reason i don't know how he got this into his head but my dad used to rent
televisions he'd never buy a TV.
Because someone in a pub in the 70s.
Told him that cathode rays explode.
So my dad used to rent the worst TVs.
Like no teletext.
Nothing.
And the TVs used to break frequently.
So the person who rented the TV.
Used to come out and fix it.
But the man who fixed it right.
He looked a bit like a gibbon like you know those monkeys with the long arms this TV repairman had these long gibbon like
arms that he'd use to fix the back of the TV and my older brothers then used to refer to him as the
trained monkey so whenever the fucking TV would break my brothers would say bring the
trained monkey ring up the trained monkey to come and fix the tv but i was a child so i used to
think literally that a monkey was going to come and fix the tv and then when the man came to fix
the fucking tv i started bawling crying because he wasn't an actual trained monkey and then he ended
up finding out that my brothers think he looks like a gibbon and he got offended and didn't
fix the TV and walked out of the house with his big long gibbon arms. He always had shit
TVs was the point and no VCR. So as I got a bit older, I was like fucking I think 11
I'd be sitting watching TV
and if a fucking film came on
like this is the mad thing
if a film came on before the internet
if you didn't catch the bit at the start
where they told you the name of the film
you don't know what it is.
And there's no way to find out.
And often you'd arrive halfway through the film.
And it's fucking brilliant.
It's amazing.
But you don't know what it's called.
And again I remember this happened with me.
I was about 10 I suppose.
And it was late night.
And this film came on.
And I just thought it was fucking amazing. I just thought it was brilliant. Reese Witherspoon was in it. I didn't know who Reese Witherspoon was.
I didn't know who any of the actors were. It was just this really weird film that was basically
the story of Little Red Riding Hood except it was set in California in the 90s
and as a child I just thought
this was the best thing I'd ever seen.
Not a fucking clue what the film was.
I had to go into school
the next day and say
did anyone stay up last night and see that film
that was on at 12 o'clock?
Did anyone see it at all?
And no one saw it. There was no one able to say
I saw that thing too
so it just had to be lost in the ether this piece of art that I thought was amazing was just gone
forever and I ended up finding it about five years ago by accident the film was called
Freeway with Reese Witherspoon it was one of her first films I think she was only about 16 in it and it wasn't that good
you know looking back it wasn't that good at all
but to me
when I was fucking 10 or whatever age I was
it was amazing it was fucking incredible
but the thing is
is that
yes that's frustrating
that I saw this incredible film
and I had no internet I had no teletext
I mean if I really wanted to I probably could have gone to the shop the next day and looked
for an RTE guide to see what was on TV the night before but you just didn't think like that you
didn't think like that at all that's internet thinking you asked other people and then if you didn't get an answer
you just had to accept it
I saw an amazing piece of art
and I might never ever see it again
and I have to hold it dearly
in my memory
as this incredible thing I once saw
and I have to describe it to people
when I see it
and I don't know what it's called
and the cultural scarcity of that
culture things you consume music tv these things became really
really scarce and you had to hold them in your mind like real precious jewels and worship them
and it made you appreciate art more i think when art was a passing experience that could just
disappear into thin air at any time.
Another mad thing that you used to do back then, because art could suddenly disappear.
And this is a little hot take I have about writing.
So back in the days before the internet, before DVDs,
if a movie came on television, right?
if a movie came on television right so it's on tv you can't pause it you can't rewind it you can't fast forward you're at the mercy of television so a movie comes on tv and you walk into your living
room and your family are watching this movie but you have to be extra cautious how you interrupt
because no one can pause so you have to walk into the room really quietly and if you have to be extra cautious how you interrupt because no one can pause.
So you have to walk into the room really quietly.
And if you decide to join your family in watching whatever movie is on the TV,
you're allowed two questions and you have to get them out of the way in 30 seconds.
And this is how it used to work.
A character comes on the TV and you ask,
Is he a goody or a baddy? And then they say, He's a goody. Then another character comes on the TV and you ask, is he a goody or a baddy?
And then they say, he's a goody.
Then another character comes on and you say, is he a goody or a baddy?
And then they say, he's a baddy.
That's it. Boom.
Now you're watching the film.
And the only piece of information you have is,
Bruce Willis is a goody, Alan Rickman is a baddy.
That's it.
And I think films were written with that in mind and it made the plots of films quite simplistic, quite binary. The force of good and evil battling
each other, which is the theme you see in movies from the 70s and the 80s. And then it changes a
bit when VHS comes in. Because pause in VHS was a bit of a cunt.
But when the DVD came in, which was something that was really, really easy to pause,
that changed the game altogether.
Because the thing is, if you walk into the room and someone's watching Breaking Bad,
you can't just say, is he a goody or a baddy?
You have to pause and have a conversation about morality. You have to say,
well, Walter White there, he's actually a drug dealer. Also, he's a baddy. Well, no, because he's
dealing drugs so he can pay for his cancer treatment. Also, he's a goody. He's kind of a
goody and a baddy at the same time. We're're not sure that conversation can only happen when there's a decent pause button similarly the wire that fella is he a goodie or a baddie and then you
pause it and you go but there aren't really any goodies or baddies and some people say that the
main character is actually the city of Baltimore itself so I think the ability to pause things
and to rewind allowed for greater moral complexity in TV writing,
as opposed to when it's just on TV and everyone's a goody or a baddy.
Another thing that cultural scarcity before the internet did,
if you liked a band, because you had so little information about them,
they truly became otherworldly gods in your head.
Like I was obsessed with the Prodigy. I used to fucking listen to the Prodigy every fucking
day when I was a kid. But I had them on tape. And I didn't know what the Prodigy looked
like. So here's this fucking band that I'm obsessed about
I don't even know what they fucking look like
because on the CD
if you opened up the CD
there was a photograph of the prodigy
but on the tape
when you open it up
there was no photo of him
and the idea
that my favourite band
like I didn't know what they looked like
I had no information about them
I knew
fucking nothing. I just had the music and whatever was available in the inside of the paper that
comes with a tape. And if you wanted to find something out, you had to hope that when you,
if you went to a shop and there was magazines, you had to hope that maybe there was something
about the prodigy in the magazine, but never was so I went years just knowing nothing about my favorite band
but the scarcity and the rarity of that made me appreciate the art much more intensely
like now you can't do that anymore now because you'll find some artist you fucking adore them you love them
and then you find their twitter and they turn out to be a bit of a fucking eejit and it's ruined
back then rock stars truly were like not real they were gods they were mythical creatures
like some of my earliest experiences of hip hop music I was a child
didn't have a lot of money
so a huge amount of
rap music that I first heard
I had a buddy
and he used to just get me tapes out of his brother's bedroom
I'd give him like 5 pounds
and he'd run into his brother's bedroom
and grab 3 or 4 tapes from his drawer
because his brother had stopped listening to rap
and started listening to rave music so he used to just grab random four tapes from his drawer, because his brother had stopped listening to rap, and started listening to rave music,
so he used to just grab random rap tapes for me,
but like,
they were all taped over and stuff,
so I'd just have this blank tape,
and I'd be listening to Public Enemy,
for a year,
and I'd love it,
and I wouldn't even know what it was,
I didn't know the name of the band,
this tape that I love listening to, this album. I didn't know the name of the band. This tape that
I love listening to, this album, I don't know the name of the album. I don't know the name of the
band. There was a poverty of information that truly asked you to engage with your imagination
and it made art more valuable and we've definitely lost that. And even as I got a little bit older in my teens
and I used to save up money if I wanted to buy a CD it was 20 fucking quid
so you were only buying maybe three CDs a year so if you bought an album you fucking listened to it
until you loved it because you couldn't waste 20 quid on a shit album nowadays one thing
I really dislike nowadays
if I come across a new artist
now
even someone who's like a complete
fucking legend whose music
I haven't really gotten into
like someone like Bruce Springsteen
I'm not hugely familiar with Bruce Springsteen
but I can just go onto Spotify
now and flick through every single one of Bruce Springsteen. But I can just go onto Spotify now and flick through every single one
of Bruce Springsteen's albums really quickly
and it's stopping me getting into Bruce Springsteen.
Like I should have to live with one album
and listen to it until I understand
every single bit of it
because it cost me 20 quid.
But you can't do that now.
Just flick through everything on Spotify
and it loses all its value
it's no longer scarce
and maybe I'm looking back
with rose tinted glasses
because
so I'm pining for a time
when we had less information
and I'm saying to myself
it was
I remember that as being better
but
we definitely pined for the internet before it existed
and I'll tell you why
there was this cartoon I grew up with
called Inspector Gadget
and on Inspector Gadget
Inspector Gadget was like this
weird robot man
and he had a helper who was a little girl
can't remember her name was it Lucy
I don't know her name she was
small blonde girl
and she, this was before the internet now,
she basically had an iPhone or an iPad before iPads existed.
So this girl in Inspector Gadget, her special power
was that she had this book that had an antenna on it
and she could open up the book and there was a
video in it and she could ask this book any question in the world. She could ask the book
about cheetahs and then it would play her videos of cheetahs. And we as kids used to look at
Inspector Gadget and we used to think to ourselves, wow, imagine having a magical book like that and
you ask it anything and it shows you videos about anything in the whole world.
So that's just a fucking iPad.
But when we were kids, that was science fiction. It was impossible.
And we used to pine for that. We used to imagine, oh my God, if only we had the book of infinite wisdom that shows you videos of cheetahs when you ask for it.
Here's another thing I often wonder about. you know, was it better before the internet?
So this observation isn't before the internet, but this is definitely before smartphones we'll say.
Because again, I'm in the weird position of, I grew up with no internet then when I became a teenager there was some
internet and then when I got into being an adult that's when we started getting broadband so I
remember going on holidays before I had an iPhone and back then I'm not even back then I'm talking
fucking 2010 in 2010 if I went to like London or York, I don't know where the fuck I am.
I don't know my way around. So if I was in New York in 2010 and I wanted to get around the place,
I had to literally use a map, ask for directions and be completely aware of my surroundings at
all times. And it was stressful, but I was fully present with the experience of being in New York
I'm looking at buildings I'm looking for signs I'm memorizing oh there's that church there so
if I get lost I know that when I walk back I'll be going taking a left at that church
so I'm experiencing New York in this really immersive way, using all of my senses, my sights, my smells, the whole shebang.
And then the iPhone comes along and I've got Google Maps.
So now, from about 2012 onwards,
when I was going to London, when I was going to New York, Italy, wherever,
now I'm just using Google Maps.
So when I want to go somewhere, I'm just staring at my phone and I'm not looking at the buildings.
I'm not looking at the road. I'm not memorizing landmarks. I'm not asking people for directions.
I'm not immersing myself in the environment of my holiday at all. Therefore, I'm not being in
any way mindful and my holiday just becomes the screen of my phone at all. Therefore I'm not being in any way mindful
and my holiday just becomes the screen on my phone
where I'm following the arrow to get to where I need to get.
And I think that's a bad thing.
Like Google Maps is good if
you really need to get somewhere quickly
but when it was like
holidays were better without google maps
you were fully immersed experiencing relaxing in a different city and taking everything in
google maps ruined all that just following an arrow it's very similar to video games
there's certain video games like grand theft auto 5 where they've put all this effort into this digital recreation of Los Angeles.
But you end up just playing the little mini-map.
They have a mini-map in the corner that looks like Google Maps.
And when you play Grand Theft Auto 5, you're just using that mini-map.
Which actually looks like a video game from the 1970s, like fucking Pong or something.
So you're not now enjoying the environment of the video game because you're just using this mini-map.
Google Maps has done that to holidays.
Another mad thing we kind of take for granted and don't think about.
I don't know whether this is good or bad.
but before smartphones everyone's watches were kind of
out of sync with each other
like
if you agreed to meet someone at 3 o'clock
and you're relying on your watch
or even your shitty Nokia phone
you had to set your own time to the television
so everyone was a few minutes out of
sync. Now, if it's three o'clock on my phone, it's three o'clock on your phone. We're all perfectly
synced. That wasn't the case. You could have some people five minutes out, some people three minutes
out. Nobody was in sync with each other. But also you had to really be on time.
If you agreed to meet someone before mobile phones.
Because I remember before mobile phones when I was a child.
And just before.
I got my first mobile phone when I was about 12.
That's when everyone started getting them.
12 or 13.
But when I was like 10.
I would have been allowed to walk into town and if I was meeting
someone at 3 o'clock
you literally had to be on fucking time
and you had to agree to meet
at the same fucking place and there was
no middle ground you couldn't text
someone and say I'm going to be a little bit late
one thing that's
definitely
a negative of the internet and technology is it's nice
to not be contactable all the time. And I feel a sadness for the loss of that feeling. I can't believe
that I spent a huge portion of my life
with that much privacy.
Like, even back in the days of mobile phones,
when you used to have to buy credit,
if your friend texted you,
it would be perfectly acceptable,
it would actually be normal to wait a day to text them back because that text costs 16p.
So when I was texting people in like the early 2000s, texting my mates,
like we weren't texting like you are now where you have a full on conversation.
now where you have a full on conversation. If you had a conversation in 2002 via text,
like an average WhatsApp conversation, it could actually cost you 30 quid and that's no word of a lie. So you had to ration out your texts and extreme texting was like maybe six texts in one night
which would cost a euro
so it was perfectly acceptable
to get a text message
and just leave it a day
and that was grand
and if someone expected a text back
immediately
that person was mad
I saw someone online
recently suggest that the one thing that they missed
from the pre-digital days were
if you had a relationship and you broke up
and you literally never ever wanted to hear from that person again
if you literally wanted to just move on
and that person disappears from your life
back then you could actually do it.
If you needed to cut someone off,
it could actually be done.
And then as soon as Facebook came along,
email came along,
that's not the case anymore.
You still have to have that lingering sense of
one day this person could find me on Facebook,
they could get my email
back then you could actually cut someone off and move on forever if that's what you wanted to do
another thing that was quite healthy from we'll say the middle era when we had a little bit of
internet when Bebo first stood so the first proper social media network,
well, there was Myspace, but in Ireland, the first proper social media network was Bebo,
the one that everyone joined up.
And Bebo was the same, same shtick as fucking Instagram,
the same shtick as, it's social media, you're posting about yourself,
you add your friends, blah, blah, blah. But... when you had Bebo back in 2006
you checked it like
three times a day
that was it
you had to go to a computer
an actual computer
and turn it on and check it
and people didn't post as much
it wasn't non-stop continual refreshing
and I remember around 2006, an
urban myth going around the internet. And the myth was, did you hear they're going to
make Bebo notifications available on your phone? And it was like this terrifying idea.
and it was like this terrifying idea.
Like we laughed about it, but we're also terrified,
thinking, what? Bebo on your phone?
So you mean like you pick up your phone and you can find out when someone writes on your wall?
Jesus, that would be hell.
That would be your life ruined.
So we had an awareness back then
that social media was toxic but we knew at least if you're
checking Bebo like twice a day that you can compartmentalize it and then have this private
life where your mind isn't colonized and we knew that the idea and concept of being able to check Bebo on your phone would be
highly toxically addictive
and it was
such an absurd idea
that
it was a joke, it was a
meme and then of course it happens
then of course it happens with smartphones
I remember another
similar meme around the same time
this would have been a bit later 2008 when people started joining Facebook I remember another similar meme around the same time.
This would have been a bit later, 2008, when people started joining Facebook.
Like a conspiracy theory going around in 2008.
That was like, Facebook is run by the CIA and it's actually a way to gather everyone's data. And we all went, ha ha ha ha, how absurd, how ridiculous.
And then it turns out to be fucking true
with that Mark Snowden shit
so it's time now for a little pause
for an advert
I don't have the ocarina
so what I have this week again
is the plasma lighter
now I did this last week and quite a lot of people said
they enjoyed the sound of the plasma lighter
so this is the coolest lighter that I ever bought.
Which is an electric lighter that instead of a flame, there's like laser plasma.
So let's have the laser plasma lighter pause.
There's a sentence now, if I said it to me in the fucking 90s, I'd be like, what the fuck?
That's pure futuristic.
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It's a girl.
Witness the birth.
Bad things will start to happen.
Evil things of evil.
It's all for you, no doubt.
The first omen, I believe, girl, is to be the mother.
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Who said that?
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I think it's actually causing electrical interference as well
like I think that's not just the sound of the lighter
when I enact the plasma
it looks like lightning
it's like a lighter that has controlled lightning
and you light your cigarette with lightning
and I think when I do that it creates electrical
interference which gives us that pleasant
static noise
yeah
so imagine lighting
that's right I'm never going to smoke a cigarette again
but if I did have cigarettes
I'd be lighting them with
lightning
I should get sponsored by plasma lighters.
He's a shill for big plasma.
So that was the plasma pause.
You would have heard an advertisement there.
I don't know what for.
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I've got a couple of gigs to plug now here's the bollocks about
plugging these fucking gigs right
so I've got
I technically have
three gigs in like February
but currently we've got these
shitty fucking government restrictions which mean
that in order
to run a gig it has to be half capacity
so the government has forced a bunch
of people to cancel gigs so i'm now in the position where i'm contractually obligated to
advertise these gigs in february but i can't even tell you whether they're going to happen in
february or not because of the government so as you can imagine this is destroyed fucking ticket
sales for all artists in ireland at the moment because how do I fucking plug gigs
and I can't tell you whether they're going to go ahead or not
in the dates that I'm plugging them for.
But we're going to do it anyway
because I'm contractually obligated.
So on February the 5th,
I'm in Killarney in the INEC Theatre.
Hopefully that gig goes ahead.
Buy tickets for it anyway
because if it doesn't go ahead then
it'll get moved forward to a different date
so none of these are going to get cancelled
I just can't guarantee that they're going to happen
in February because of government restrictions
so I neck Galarney
5th of February
Wednesday the 16th
Ulster Hall Belfast
that is definitely happening because it's up in belfast
and different restrictions then mayo i'm in castle bar on the 25th of february come along to that
and then in march and april i have a lot of vicar street gigs in dublin check they're definitely
happening on those dates. Check them out.
Three blind boy podcast dates in Vicar Street.
Go on to Google.
And then I have three dates in Cork.
Opera House and Two St. Luke's.
Most of them are sold out.
But you never know.
There's my contractually obligated plugging.
Back to the geriatric millennial content.
So how was the world different?
Before the internet. I'll tell you one mad thing
do you know the way like
if you think back to the fucking 90s
there used to be all these different subcultures
like skaters
and rockers and goths and punks
and then we had jocks
like
these things still exist now. But when I was a child, these
things were really, really important. Teenagers had really strong subcultural identities.
Like really, really strong. You had your gots, you had your punks, you had your skateboarders,
they dressed a certain way. And this is straight up how things were delineated and the thing was is that this is what you had to
do. When you're a teenager you're searching for your sense of self, you're searching for your
sense of identity so you then have to broadcast your identity to other people
and when you don't know who you are
when you're trying to find out who you are
as a teenager an easy way to communicate your sense of self
is through the music you listen to
the clothes that you wear
and the group that you identify with
so teenagers in the fucking 90s and early 2000s
had to write their favourite fucking bands on their school bags
or walk around the place wearing their favourite band on a t-shirt
or dressing like the sport that you play
or dressing like the music that you listen to
and
like there was no
there's no social media
so if you
listened to
Slipknot
in 2001
we'll say
and you wanted to find
someone else
in Limerick
who liked Slipknot
you had to go into
the middle of town
wearing a Slipknot hoodie
and then everyone
who listened to Slipknot hoodie. And then everyone who listened to Slipknot
would like literally hang around one place.
And in Limerick, for some reason,
that was the door outside Brown Thomas.
Don't know why that was.
But if you listen to a certain music,
you had to wear that band's t-shirt
and hang around a certain area
and then hope to meet like-minded people
by physically broadcasting
yourself in public that stuff really changed and diminished as soon as social media came around
like you don't really see gangs of teenagers anymore not like you did in the fucking 90s and the early 2000s.
You didn't see groups of teenagers
hanging about and moving around.
Because now you have social media.
Back then,
you literally had to physically
get out there and be around
a group of people.
And have a collective identity.
You're skaters, you'reaters your punks your gots
whatever the fuck but as soon as myspace came about bibo came about and then facebook
you no longer needed to wear a slipknot hoodie because you could curate your identity now
as a digital avatar and as soon as social media came out
it's when I started to notice
the decline in like
gangs of teenagers
just hanging around the place
like in 2001
you'd look outside the door
of Brown Thomas in Limerick
or in Dublin it's the Central Bank
in Cork
it was a place called Paul Street
and in 2001 I'm not joking you you could see 150 people wearing slipknot and corn hoodies
no word of a lie 150 teenagers like the entire street mobbed and then you'd walk down the corner
and you'd see not as many skateboarders but you'd see a bunch
of skateboarders before there was a skate park
and there was just a very
identifiable
areas where certain
subcultures gathered
and now you'd still see
you never see more than three goths
or three metlers together anymore now
so if I'm in town now and I see, you still see teenagers You never see more than three goths or three mettlers together anymore now.
So if I'm in town now and I see, you still see teenagers who are emo or goth or something like that.
But it's only just three of them.
And they're never standing anywhere.
They're never waiting around anymore.
They're going somewhere.
So the internet got rid of that.
Social media got rid of that.
Because now you can construct your identity and your sense of self-esteem when you're a teenager online.
And I think that's a bad thing.
Social media creates a sense of isolation and mental health issues and anxiety.
Hanging around in a group of 30 people who listen to the same music as you doesn't.
Now I'm not saying it's perfect.
You're always going to get little bits of bullying and peer pressure and all the stuff that goes along with it but not like fucking
social media because with social media you can construct your identity and it's hugely unrealistic
and you're competing with other people and their identities are unrealistic and it can never be
lived up to because it's social media whereas there was still that bit of competition back before it like with the goths outside brown thomas
everyone would meet on a saturday and you might get someone would try and dye their hair fucking
blue and they were the talk of the circle for the day like i wasn't a goth or a metler but i used to
hang around there because it was where i'd meet people who cared about music. That was really important to me it's
like holy fuck I'm gonna hang around with a lot of teenagers from all different schools around
Limerick and I'm guaranteed to meet people who like Led Zeppelin or Bowie or Deftones but I ended
up getting quite competitive around how many wallet chains I could wear
and it had gotten to the point where I was going up to the pet shop not even buying wallet
chains anymore they were just like dog chains and I was hanging them off my pants and me
and another fella had like a wallet chain competition to see who could wear the most
amount of wallet chains and I won but it culminated in my pants falling around my ankles in the
middle of O'Connell Street in Limerick
and everyone laughed at me and pointed which was the 2001 equivalent to getting cancelled on social media
but yeah marauding gangs of teenagers in different subcultures just out in vast numbers having crack in real life
and sharing
common interests in music and dress
that's something
that's gone because of the internet
and that was
a really healthy fun thing
what else
memory
so back before the internet
you had to actually fucking remember things
you had to hold about
five different phone numbers in your head
which for me was fucking impossible
because I'm very poor with numbers
but now you don't have to remember shit anymore
and a new thing has started happening to me
which I really want to stop
and this is recent.
So now, so a huge part of my job, whether it be this podcast or writing or anything,
I have to continually stimulate my brain with new information.
And a lot of that will come from, I'll just see an article on the internet.
Could be about whatever the fuck.
that will come from, I'll just see an article on the internet, could be about whatever the fuck,
and I'll read that article, and then the process of reading that article will feed my unconscious mind, and then an idea might come into my head, and then I write something, or I come up with a
hot take, or whatever, but I've stopped, if I come across a page on the internet now,
if I come across a page on the internet now I save it onto a website called pocket so now I've stopped reading articles and instead I see an article that looks interesting
and I go I'm going to save that and read it later but I never read it later so now I've started
saving articles because I know I can read them later. Rather than reading them on the spot. Like I used to have to do five years ago.
So that's a bad thing.
I also never have to remember anything.
Because I immediately just shout into my phone and put it into my reminders.
So I have no need anymore for short term memory.
I get to compartmentalize my brain.
And put it into my phone.
And I don't know is that a good or a bad
thing another thing you can't build your personality around being someone who has interest in facts
anymore that used to be a huge thing if you were someone who did a lot of reading and had interest
in facts about stuff that gave you cultural capital in the real world it meant that
you were an interesting person and people would come to you and like you could literally be the
person that other people come to to find things out like that was a person that was a type of
person every friends group had the one person who was a total nerd with an encyclopedic knowledge of everything
and they acted as they were the internet for each friend group so if you wanted to know something
and you couldn't go and look it up because there was no internet you you just knew a person you
just knew a person and you rang them up and chances are they might know the thing that you're looking for.
And that was really valuable.
That was really valuable cultural capital if you were to build your identity around being that person.
And it wasn't being a nerd because a nerd can have lots of information about something but it can be quite useless.
It's more of like an obsession.
I'm talking about someone who was basically the internet, the internet of a about something. But it can be quite useless. It's more of like an obsession. I'm talking about someone who.
Was basically the internet.
The internet of a friends group.
That person's gone now.
They've disappeared.
That person is obsolete.
Because now you have Google.
And having information.
Or interest in facts.
Or knowing about something.
Or being the person who knew about fucking music.
Like this is where the 2010s hipster came from.
Like hipsters were teenagers who fetishized music to the point that they knew fucking everything.
So they were the ones who knew the coolest bands.
And they were the ones you'd go to to find out who's this band who should i listen to that's gone now you've got spotify for that
so there's no longer any cultural capital in having rare pieces of information so an entire
personality is gone disappeared dead in the ether which is both a good and a bad thing
it's a bad thing for the people who are ethical with that information.
People who are genuinely passionate about knowing an awful amount about cinema.
Or knowing an awful amount about music.
Who are welcoming to other people and wanted to share it.
Like these people were highly sought after.
There used to be a fella in Limerick called Albert who worked in HMV.
Who knew fucking everything about music. Everything. And people all in Limerick called Albert who worked in HMV who knew fucking everything
about music everything and people all over Limerick knew him you go into HMV and if you
have a specific niche taste in music if you like this band and you want to find out another band
that sound like them and they might be a tiny band from Portland, Oregon.
You go to HMV, you ask for Albert and he would be able to pull out this catalogue and recommend music to you.
Because there was no fucking internet.
There had to be a person who was a living embodiment of Spotify
and they got gainful employment.
And that's the positive side of that that's gone, that the internet destroyed.
The negative side is there were other people who had encyclopedic knowledge of music or of films
or of whatever and they would instead use those powers for evil they'd use it to gatekeep that
information they'd use that information to make people feel less than, to bully them.
So I'm kind of glad that the internet has replaced those people.
Now here's the other thing.
A lot of this stuff I'm talking about like the early 2000s or the late 90s.
And you might be thinking, but the internet did exist.
The internet was a thing.
It was, but it was different and we hadn't gotten our brains around it like Google wasn't smart
Google didn't exist
until 2003 or something
search engines weren't smart
so
the internet was a weird place
where
people would recommend websites in real life.
You couldn't type into Google a question and it would give you an answer.
Like that type of smart search engine shit,
where it collates everybody else's searches to have a form of artificial intelligence,
that didn't start becoming apparent until about 2009.
So before that, search engines were dumb
and the results
weren't very detailed
so a search engine didn't really work
and our brains hadn't
developed a symbiotic relationship
with the internet yet
I'll give you an example
and this is going to sound fucking mad
but I remember
it was probably 1995
The Simpsons
The Simpsons had
who shot
Mr. Burns
right, so there was
a season finale of The Simpsons
where Mr. Burns was shot
right and no one knew who did it A season finale of The Simpsons where Mr. Burns was shot.
Right?
And no one knew who did it.
And that was the whole thing.
It was a cliffhanger.
It could have been anyone.
And we all had to guess who shot Mr. Burns.
And it was massive.
Everyone was talking about it.
Everyone was guessing. And you had to wait until the new season to find out.
And this was like 94, 95, maybe 96 so anyway it had gotten to the point in Ireland
where like Paddy Power and people like that
were taking bets on who shot Mr Burns
and then and I remember this because it was on the radio
at the time and it caused a lot of controversy
and I think it was the first time
in Ireland I heard people speaking
about the internet. So these
two lads in Ireland
went to Paddy Power and put a
bet on and said that it was
Maggie Simpson who shot Mr Burns
and they won
but when they were asked how did you know it was Maggie Simpson who shot Mr Burns and they won but when they were asked
how did you know it was Maggie Simpson
the lads said
because the episode aired
a day before in America
and we just checked it out on the internet
so we got the answer on the internet
and then we won the bet
and Paddy Power had to pay them
and I remember being a child
and listening to the radio it might
have even been Joe Duffy or something and hearing people talking about the internet for the first
time and the crazy mad idea that these two lads went and asked the computer a question
and got the answer about something that was happening over in America. Like that's the other thing, there was a real sense of distance.
Like before the internet, people used to go over to America and get a sense of culture shock.
They'd walk around New York and they'd see new trends and clothes and fashions.
Or you might go to New York and you could buy a CD or an album that simply didn't exist in Ireland. Like we have
homogenized culture now. If you go on to TikTok and you look at a teenager from like Mayo. So a
teenager from rural Mayo in Ireland is going to look the exact same as a teenager from Los Angeles
who's also on TikTok.
They're going to be wearing the exact same clothes,
have the exact same hairstyle.
There's no culture shock.
There's no everything's homogenized
because everything is sped up and quick.
Like even on a smaller scale,
you hear Dublin people using the word cultures.
Like, first of all, I'm not having that because Dublin's not a real city compared to like fucking Toronto or
New York and London Dublin's just Galway on a boner Dublin's not a real city it's you're all
boggers as well but anyway when I hear a Dublin person saying like culture, that doesn't make sense anymore.
Before the internet, you literally, you had Dublin people who had access to better music, better clothes, better style.
So Dublin people genuinely were a little bit more cosmopolitan.
And then you went down the country and people didn't have access to cool clothes
or the same type of music.
So you literally had a cultural divide
between like Dublin and Kerry
or you'd have Dublin and Limerick
and Limerick might be a year behind.
That existed back then.
That's gone now.
That's gone.
You'll have kids in Mull Huddert
dressed the exact same
as the ones up in Dublin
listening to the exact same music
talking about the same shit
so there's no more
rural and urban cultural divide
whatsoever in Ireland
so one last point
classic fucking blind
by podcast question answering podcast
I'm still answering
the first question. I'm still answering the first question.
And I'm fucking 64 minutes in.
I'm still answering the first question.
But.
I'm going to make one last point about.
Life before the internet.
Analog life we'll say.
And life after.
And one thing that I definitely think is a negative.
Where social media is right now.
So.
Bebo, Myspace.
Early Facebook.
Definitely toxic.
Definitely toxic.
But.
You could walk away from it. You could walk away from it you could walk away from it it wasn't
continual bombardment but what's happened now with social media and this is i'd say almost a
new thing in the history of humanity so if you actively have a social media account and it's a
part of your life which is the case for most of us. So you have an Instagram, you have a Twitter,
you have a TikTok, whatever.
For most people, it's an important part of our lives,
especially over the fucking pandemic.
It's how most of us communicated with other people.
But one of the issues with having a social media account,
especially now, because it's updates so continually
and social media is now very addictive
in order to have a social media account you have to construct a separate identity for yourself
we all have our real selves who we are in real life and then your social media ideal self
constructed identity now already that's unhealthy because if
you've listened to any of my podcasts about the psychology of carl rogers you'll know that
one of the recipes for having poor mental health is if you have your real self which is who you
actually are and then you have your ideal self which is and then you have your ideal self, which is who you actually are, and then you have your ideal self, which is...
And then you have your ideal self, which is
how you'd like to be seen by other people.
But the thing with your ideal self is that it's always out of reach.
So Carl Rogers says that if you live your life too much in your ideal self,
the part of you that's how you'd like others to see you,
if you live too much in ideal self, the part of you that's how you'd like others to see you, if you live too
much in that self, you'll never be happy because that ideal self is unattainable and unrealistic.
So with social media, with Twitter for instance, you create this version of yourself that exists
online and interacts with other people and you get to curate it perfectly
but the problem now is in 2022 we no longer even have control over what our online identity is
back in the days of early facebook or bibo or MySpace you had a degree of control over what your online
identity was I'm only gonna put up these photos of myself I'm only gonna put up that I like these
bands I'm gonna speak this way I'm gonna be witty all the time in how I respond to people
you construct your online identity but because of the way that social media today uses algorithms
you lose control of what that identity is so for instance let's take Twitter for example
so Twitter Twitter's not social media everyone thinks Twitter's not social media. Everyone thinks Twitter is a
social media app. It's not. Twitter is a video game. It's a massively multiplayer online role
playing video game similar to World of Warcraft except we don't know we're playing a video game
and the Twitter algorithm only rewards combative behavior so everybody on Twitter is
fighting with each other all the time or competing to see who has the best complaint
or anytime anything is spoken about on Twitter and this could be something really important like
politics or something to do with gender or race.
Important issues that require compassion and nuance.
Anytime an opinion is expressed on Twitter, the rules of the game demand that someone else must disagree with it just for the sake of it.
Or must find a polarising opinion about it.
Because all public interactions on Twitter are a form of performative combat
where points are awarded. So now what happens there is it changes your fucking brain.
So if you spend too much time on Twitter, as an example, your online self now has to become very hostile just to survive.
So you've lost control over what your online identity is.
But this still exists in your brain as a part of yourself.
And I know because I've seen people on Twitter saying it.
People who use Twitter too much,
when they're trying to think thoughts in their heads privately, they could be sitting on
their couch not on Twitter. When people who use Twitter too much try to think a thought in their
head, they already think about how someone's going to disagree with them in bad faith or quote tweet
them as a way to shame them. And the thing is moral perfection doesn't exist in our
private thoughts like we often think things that are unacceptable or problematic or that contain
the inherent biases that we learn from society but it's what you do with those thoughts that
matter it's how you challenge them and how they enact in behavior that matter.
But basically, there's people who are using Twitter all day and then they're sitting at home on their couch,
feeling the shame and terror of being publicly canceled for a thought that exists in their own head because the Twitter algorithm has hijacked their neural pathways.
So your brain is changing to abide by the rules of a game
that's been invented by billionaires
who have set it up
so that people respond with the
most
combative emotionally reactive things
all the time
so that's desperately unhealthy
that's a desperately desperately unhealthy thing
and I don't thank the internet
for that.
And it's not just Twitter.
Instagram will fuck your brain up.
Facebook will fuck your brain up.
And it's hard to use these things in moderation anymore.
It's very difficult to use social media in moderation.
And I would strongly advise everyone to delete your fucking social media if you don't need it.
Like, it's my job.
I have to have it.
But fuck me, I would not have social media if it wasn't my job.
I simply wouldn't.
I pine for the days of no social media.
I just want to go onto the internet and read articles.
That's all I want. And I don't want social media.
And I never want to read the comments on anything
there's something I miss about
the early internet
the bottom half of the internet is a
recent enough invention
it only started becoming a thing around
2008
before that you could
happily just read an article and
that's it and you didn't have to see a bunch of
people fighting or being racist
in the comments underneath.
So that was this week's podcast.
A rambling meditation on the days before the internet.
I'll be back next week.
Hopefully with a hot take.
Thank you everybody for joining in.
And have a lovely week ahead.
I haven't got a
Twitch song this week
but I will have one
next week
God bless you all
Rock City
you're the best fans
in the league
bar none
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