The Blindboy Podcast - The history of smoking banana peels and the Anarchists Cookbook
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Dance aloft, the gammy chandelier, you jangely Anthony's.
Welcome to the Blind Boy podcast.
We are all currently nestled in the testicles of a greasy heat wave.
A fucking record-breaking heat wave.
Not just Ireland, not just Limerick, all of Europe.
It's the consequences of global warming.
It's what we're dealing with.
Temperature in Limerick this week was 32 degrees.
Big swinging Mickey.
You're thinking.
if you live in Australia or if you live in Spain, 32 degrees.
That's just a Wednesday here in Spain or in Pardth.
But here's the thing, this heat here in Ireland and over in England, it's unprecedented.
So we're dealing with this for the first time.
In Spain, for instance, where 32 degrees is normal, you've got...
You have infrastructure, architecture and culture.
all built around heat.
Here in Ireland we have infrastructure, culture and architecture built around the cold and the rain.
So when it's hot here in Ireland, it's inescapable.
If you stay indoors, it's actually worse because we live in buildings that are designed to keep the heat in.
We don't have air conditioning.
Nobody has air conditioning.
That's not part of our culture.
So what's fascinating for me is to watch all.
all the little change is emerge because we're being pushed over at tipping point.
There's traffic jams.
There's traffic jams and there's long...
And as a result then there's long queues for buses.
Some people are just getting into their fucking cars because our cars do have air conditioning.
Now also you have people travelling.
They want to go to a beach, they want to go to a lake, to a river, whatever.
Because too the heat is something you cannot escape.
try to move for the sake of it. There's an underlying anxiety there. There's no rest from the heat
here, especially at night time. See in Spain, if there's not air conditioning, you've got buildings
which are designed to stay cool. You know, shutters on the outside. You've a culture built around
staying cool. Society tends to shut down in the middle of the day and people operate in the
mornings and the evenings. Here in Ireland we just carry on.
We carry on and continue with an ambient hum of,
I cannot escape this.
Nothing I do will cool me down.
And that tension and that anxiety just causes people to move,
to get out of the house, to get into the car.
Something I started to notice two, three years ago,
as the summers began to get hotter with climate change.
Food, ready meals in particular.
You got to be on the lookout for food poisoning.
I got food poisoning this time last summer from a reheated meal
because the amount of time that you can leave food out for
normally in Ireland that safe period
that now changes completely and we're not used to that
so I don't risk ready meals during the summer I'm very careful
another thing I've been noticing it's been taking me longer to buy my lunch
I get the same lunch at the same time in the same place
every single day that's an artistic thing we tend to ought to
I've made tasks that require executive functioning skills, like planning.
I mean, for me, how I experienced that is, if I wear the same clothes all the time,
if I eat the same food all the time, if I have the exact same route to get in and out
of work every single time, then I can focus on whatever I'm mad curious about.
This week I'm thinking about the ancient architecture of Persia.
I feel happy when I'm thinking about that.
I want to think about that all of the time, and I don't want to distract myself,
by needing to plan my lunch.
So the procurement of my lunch
is an incredibly automated
and predictable experience.
So if anything disrupts that,
I notice it very quickly.
And in the heat wave, I've been noticing it.
Like, fucking hell, it's taking me
like an extra six minutes to buy my sandwich.
What the fuck is going on here?
I stopped in the supermarket and looked around.
And there weren't necessarily more people
than usual in the supermarket,
but what I noticed was a change in people's behaviour.
Our supermarkets are not air-conditioned.
They're fucking hot.
But the freezer section and the fridge section,
everything's behind glass doors now to save energy.
So every person who's going to buy their pint of milk or their packet of ham,
when they open that glass door and get hit with that wave of cold from the fridge,
everyone's kind of basking in it.
whether they're aware they're doing it or not
everyone is spending that little bit longer
choosing their milk
I went out for a walk the other evening
to escape the fucking heat of my house
and when I was walking around a housing estate
I got a glint in my eye
a painful glint in my eye
as if someone had shined a laser into my eye
and it wasn't a fucking laser
some of the houses
people had put tinfoil up
on their windows
to reflect the sunlight back.
Our Doomscrow algorithms are full of
people coming up with new novel ideas
to try and escape the heat.
Fill in plastic bottles full of water
and freezing them until they're blocks of ice
and then putting a fan in front of it.
These are all the changes in human behavior
that occur
when it just gets two, three degrees hotter
than what we're used to.
Our mental health worsens.
As I mentioned,
There's the unnameable hum of not being able to escape something uncomfortable.
So that grinds away at you in the background.
We're all getting terrible sleep.
I was speaking to someone yesterday and they live in an apartment in the city centre
and they're up at the fourth fucking floor.
So heat rises to the top.
So they're fucking roasting in bed.
But if they try to open their window at night time,
they can't sleep because of the noise of the noise of the,
the city. Domestic violence goes up during heat waves. Violence against women. I'm based on a study
that I read called hot weather and violence against women a global scoping review, which identified
as global temperatures rise. Things like socio-economic status. So the poorer you are, the less able
you are to cool yourself down. I give an example. I visit a city in Spain called Cardaba. Hot a city in
Europe. It would hit about 40 this time of year. I went there for nearly a month in 2017 in August
to write my second book. I'd managed to get really nice accommodation there for 15 quid a day.
I couldn't understand how it was so cheap. It was so cheap because nobody wanted to be there
in the middle of August. It was borderline dangerous to be there in the middle of August. It was too
hot. 40, 41 degrees. It was so hot.
hot that if I sat down even in the shade at a cafe in the middle of the day, my laptop would just
shut off, wouldn't work in the heat. What I also noticed, all the middle class people and wealthy
upper class people are gone. They're not there. They're gone. The luxury shops are empty.
The jewelry shops. The expensive restaurants are empty. The people with the money have got a second
home near the sea so they get the fuck out of the hot city because they can afford to. And the people
who are left to deal with the urban heat, the working class people, the people working in shops,
the people working for the council. So access to being able to cool yourself down is a class issue.
Even to the point, I can't find the name of the exact scheme, but I knew someone in Spain
who would have been, they were low income and they were able to avail of a government scheme
that pays or subsidizes lower income people to be able to travel to a cooler part of
Spain during the summer. Alcohol consumption increases during heat waves. The urban
heat island effect, patriarchal norms and the irritability of having shit sleep and just
being too hot and not being able to escape it. That is resulting in a rise in violence
against women and domestic violence. Those are the findings of that study from
2025. And of course the obvious one and this is a headline from today as BBC
knows, European heat waves are linked to 1,300 deaths.
And the World Health Organization said that.
So 1,300 people have died unnecessarily over the past couple of weeks because of the rising
temperatures.
So global warming is global.
But Europe, Europe is actually heating it twice the speed of everywhere else.
And this is how unpredictable ecosystems are.
as in something you could not have planned for.
One of the reasons that Europe is heating twice as fast as the rest of the world.
I frequently speak about Europe, the EU being a place of regulation.
Regulations are generally good things because what they do is they place the
safety and well-being of human beings ahead of a corporation's right to profit.
So air pollution was a huge thing in the 20th century.
So if you're a millennial or older, you'll remember from your childhood, you know, hearing on the news things like acid rain.
Like you don't hear about acid rain anymore.
The hole in the ozone layer.
That was massive when I was a kid.
The hole in the ozone layer.
And CFCs, remember you'd buy hairspray or deodorant and it would proudly label that it was CFC free.
Or there'd be awareness campaigns about how to dispose of fridges safely because of CFCs.
CFCs. It even changed hairstyles. Remember the big giant 1980s,
palms? They went out of fashion as soon as hairspray became demonized as a source of CFCs
when people became aware that excessive use of hair spray was causing a big giant hole in the ozone layer.
And the hole in the ozone layer, it was very real. There was a massive one above Australia
and the ozone layer which protects us from UV light
but there was
loads of people were getting skin cancer
because of the hole in the ozone layer particularly down in Australia
smog too was a huge thing
you'd think of movies
70s and 80s in particular Los Angeles
Los Angeles is always represented with this
deep orange haze
the most exaggerated example of that would be a film called
187 with Samuel L Jackson
that was smog
the airquartered
in Los Angeles in the 70s and 80s was so poor that the films had a bit of an orange
hue and then they would exaggerate it.
Not to unlike London, London at the peak of the Industrial Revolution.
You had painters like Turner.
Look at Turner's paintings from the 1840s and everything has this yellow glow.
He was painting smog, coal pollution.
London up until the 1970s was famous for, I think they called it pea soup.
It was a type of smog that was full of sulphur and it was green.
You don't really hear about smog anymore.
Acid rain.
I was really scared of acid rain as a child.
It'd be represented in the media as literal rain that would melt your skin and you turn into a skeleton.
What it really, what it was, it was pollution from sulfur dioxide and nitrogen oxides,
which come from fossil fuels, from coal and from the engines of.
cars was causing rain to become acidic and this was poisoning lakes and destroying ecosystems.
So acid rain was a real thing but you don't hear about it anymore.
To the point that if you see the arguments of people who deny climate change they will use
CFC's acid rain smog as examples of hysteria, they'll say, do you remember when we used to
always talk about acid rain now you don't hear it anymore?
What happened to the fucking ozone layer?
I thought that was going to kill us all.
Now you never hear it anymore.
This is all hysteria.
The same way that global warming is hysteria now, it's bullshit.
You don't hear about smog and acid rain and CFCs and the ozone layer anymore
because we did something about it.
Europe in particular.
The EU brought in regulations and industry to reduce air pollution to get cleaner air.
So, in 1988 there was the fucking large combustion plant directive.
Unleaded petrol.
You know, the lead was taken out of petrol.
Smokless coal.
You have to burn...
If you are burning coal now, it has to be smokeless coal because of regulation.
Catalytic converters.
Catalytic converters in cars.
It removes from an exhaust, carbon monoxide and hydrocarbons.
Those are regulations.
Because of all of that.
that's why you don't hear about acid rain
that's why you don't hear about the ozone layer
it's why you don't hear about smog
in Europe
that's really good news there
the ozone layer is actively repairing itself
like wonderful
that gives me a real sense of hope
because you can look at
legislation and regulations that were brought in
that changed the behaviour of industry
because industry is the big fucking polluter
that's the big one
positive things
happened as a result of positive actions regarding the environment. Isn't that wonderful?
Our air is not as polluted as it was in the middle of the 20th century. It's a lot cleaner.
But here's the fucking sticker. We are now learning about something called the Clean Air Paradox.
Turns out all that smog and pollution and smoke and CFCs was reflecting sunlight,
back towards the sun. So as the earth was heating from global warming, the greenhouse effect,
the pollution was keeping us cool because it was reflecting sunlight back, like those fucking people
earlier I mentioned with the tinfoil on their windows. So because Europe in particular was so progressive
with clean air policy, now we've got cleaner air and we're heating at twice the speed of everywhere else,
because of our fucking clean air, the sunlight is getting through.
Ecosystems are not predictable.
What that reminds me of is
there's an invasive species of muscle
in the River Shannon in Ireland at the moment.
So you know mussels, they're like little oysters, shellfish.
So there's these freshwater mussels that are invasive.
They came in on boats in the 1990s.
They're called the zebra muscle.
The zebra mussels are from
Eastern Europe
so huge rivers
near Ukraine
or the Danube in Germany
right so their indigenous
ecosystem are
the floodplains of these
giant European rivers
very cloudy water
water that's disturbed by
rainfall upstream
so real cloudy
sediment rich water
so as a result these
fucking muscles
they filter
the water. They stay in one place and they can filter a huge amount of water and they clean it,
which is excellent when they're in Ukraine. Now they're in Ireland and they're in the Shannon
and they're replacing our native muscle and they're making the Shannon River less polluted
because they're so hungry, they're so excellent at filtering the water that they're making
the Shannon River really, really clean. In Ireland our rivers are polluted from fertilizer,
runoff. Huge amounts of nitrogen and phosphorus that come from fertilizer and the piss of cows,
the piss of cattle is very bad for Irish rivers. So now we've got these zebra mussels who are
invasive, but they're actually doing a, they're inadvertently cleaning the Shannon River and fighting
against this fertiliser runoff. Fucking brilliant. Know that they're making the water too clean.
Just like the skies over Europe, there's so many zebra mussels and they're doing such a good job at filtering the river
that sunlight is reaching parts of the river that it's not supposed to reach.
It's also happening in lakes.
And now as the sunlight penetrates deeper into the river, it's causing algal bloom,
in particular cyanobacteria, which completely poison the rivers.
And then the muscles don't want to eat the fucking cyanobacteria.
So they're killing Irish rivers by making them too clean.
And it's not something anyone predicted until it fucking happened.
So I've been battered with the heat this week.
Nighttime is the worst because...
You're lying down.
You're trying to sleep.
You can't escape it.
You're tossing and turning.
In an Irish house made of bricks that's designed to trap heat,
to keep the heat inside,
and the walls act as thermal mass.
Like the walls act as a crude radiator, they hold onto that heat.
So I've been lying awake, obsessing about ancient Persian architecture.
So ancient Persia, let's call it Iran, the area that is now Iran, was Persia incredibly hot,
you know, 40 degree desert.
And during the Achaemenid Empire, so that's 2,500 years ago.
It's 500 years before fucking the birth of Christ
The Parsons had developed
air conditioning
Very very effective air conditioning
No electricity
Just using the physics of a building
And an understanding of the science of heat
So in ancient Persian buildings
They had these things sticking out of the top
Going up real tall
That look like chimneys
But what they actually were is they were called wind catchers.
So the ancient Persians understood the physics of hot and cold air.
So hot air is less dense.
Think of hot air a bit like a helium balloon.
The heat excites the molecules of air.
So those molecules move around.
Like remember when you were a kid?
Remember when you were a little kid and it's really fucking hot outside?
So you put your head down to the footpath, to the tarmac.
And then when you look at the surface of the footpath, you see the air shimmering.
You see a little mirage like water in the distance.
What you're seeing there are, it's air being excited by heat.
It's that air, getting all fucking jittery and becoming less dense and moving upwards.
hot air rises. Cold air is more dense. That sticks to the ground. I mean, what's an example of that?
The freezing cold winter and mist and fog just hovers above the grass. Or if you're near a lake in
the morning and it's freezing cold and you just see that layer of fog hover above the meniscus
of the lake, that's dense cold air falling. So the ancient Persians understood this.
So the big huge chimneys that they had sticking out of their buildings.
They weren't lighting fires, it wasn't a chimney.
Their big chimney towers were catching cold air up in the sky.
And they would catch that air and they would then know because that air is cold,
that's going to fall.
So that falls down to the bottom of the building, into the rooms,
which then naturally pushes all the hot air out because that rises to the top.
No electricity, just an understanding,
understanding of the physics of heat and air and how it behaves when it's hot and cold,
and they managed to create buildings in the middle of the 40-degree desert that were livable
and cool, and then they took it a step farther. They had these things called canats,
which were man-made underground canals. You'd have this canal, like a small little stream of water,
moving underneath the house, then the air that's coming in the chimney, coming
in the wind catcher, when that goes down and passes over the canal that's passing under the house.
Because that air is hotter and drier than the water, it causes a little bit of evaporation to occur
on the surface of the water. But evaporation, that uses energy, that uses heat energy from the air.
So hot dry air that has to evaporate water loses energy and then naturally cools. So then that cool
air is pumped back into the house, not only pushing the hot air out, but now really chilling
the fucking house. So they'd created an air conditioner, a fucking air conditioner with no electricity
using only physics, 2,500 years ago. Like the Parsons, I think I've done a podcast on this
before about six years ago. The ancient Parsons invented the world's first frozen dessert.
Now if I said where did the world's first frozen fucking dessert come from, you're not going to think, oh, the hottest country in the world because where the fuck are they going to get ice?
They were able to make ice in the desert.
They had these buildings called yakcheice.
They were these round clay buildings.
They looked a bit like a pointy hat.
They'd have one of these canals of water running underneath.
Hot air would come in through the roof.
Evaporate the water, lose energy, cool down, and the cycle would go.
on and on until eventually ice would form and they were able to manufacture ice in the desert
2,500 years ago using only an understanding of the physics of heat and no electricity. And from
that the Persians made the world's first frozen dessert called Faluda, like a type of frozen
custard flavored with rose water. But all of that got me thinking that if Europe is to respond
to the rising temperatures.
We need to start thinking in that way.
If the fucking ancient Parisians could do it
2,500 years ago with no electricity,
just understanding how heat moves,
then why can't we do that in Europe?
I don't think everybody getting air conditioners
is going to help anything
because of the amount of air conditioners
use a huge amount of fucking energy.
If you've got an air conditioner in your fucking car,
you know this, it eats up the petrol.
So all week,
I've been doing is trying to think, how can I exploit this physics in my fucking Irish
house?
So what you're talking about is what's called the stack effect.
Think of it this way.
It's about density.
If you've got a glass of water and you pour oil into that water, the oil is always going to
move to the top.
It's searching for buoyancy because the oil is less dense than the water.
hot and cool air is the same crack.
So during this heat wave,
another big reason that sleeping is so difficult is that we sleep upstairs.
So all the heat from the day
that rises to the top of your house because it's less dense.
Your bedroom is a fucking nightmare.
So what I started doing was
I'd wait for it to get dark
so that it is colder outside.
I'd open one window downstairs
on the side of the house that wasn't getting the most sun.
Then it opened another window upstairs
and the side of the house that was getting sun
because that would be the hottest side of the house.
And after about five minutes,
like here's the thing.
It was really fucking dead heat.
No wind outside, no movement.
That's not made it worse.
That there was no wind to cool you down at all.
When I strategically opened the windows
at opposite sides of my house up and down,
After about five minutes, a localised wind started to develop in my own house and that's when I knew, fuck it, this is working.
There was different zones of pressure, you see.
As the less dense hot air upstairs exits through the window, that sucks in the cold air from downstairs and then you get a little wind.
I got a thermometer.
my upstairs bedroom was 27 degrees
like fucking unbearable
after an hour of that strategic
wind opening it had gone from 27 degrees
down to 19 degrees
I'd use the stack effect I'd manage to fucking do it
that ancient Persian technique
now some of you might be thinking
he's acting like he invented opening windows
he's acting like he invented opening windows
I'm aware I'm just opening fucking windows
I know I'm doing that
But that's that it's not that deep shit that autistic people hate.
It is that fucking deep.
If I'm opening windows in my gaff,
then there needs to be a conversation
about the Achaemenian Empire and the world's first frozen dessert.
But I was just really happy that it worked.
I was so happy that it worked.
And also generating that little wind,
generating the current of wind that I could feel and hear
when there's no wind outside.
and then seeing the mercury dropping that thermometer.
I felt great.
Give it a go yourself the next time it's 30 something degrees.
If you feel secure enough, you could just leave it all night.
What I'd love to try is can you incorporate evaporation into it?
The ancient Egyptians used to have devices called a kula.
All this was was a clay pot.
And around the clay pot they would wrap wet rags.
and they'd place these clay pots
surrounded by wet rags
anywhere where there was a draft
you maximise the surface area that's wet
but this might not work in Ireland
where we have humidity you see
we're in the middle of the Atlantic
and our prevailing wind is incredibly wet
full of moisture
so it don't think the humid air
will cause evaporation
but technically
if you were to hang
a wet towel
a wet tea towel
in the downstairs window that's open
if the air coming in isn't too humid
that will lose energy
as it evaporates and dries that towel
and then you're bringing in even colder air
into the house
and I'm going to give that a go
but I don't think it'll work because of Irish humidity
do you know who understood these physics actually
in their architecture
and I would argue
that this is technology that
we still have in every day
use, but we have forgotten what its purpose is.
We've forgotten how to use it, even though it's there all around us.
The fucking Victorians and the Georgians.
So like Limerick, like we have loads of Georgian architecture.
I think we might have the largest unmolested collection of Georgian architecture in Ireland.
So in Limerick you're talking O'Connell Street.
Loads of Georgian architecture in Dublin.
Where'd be the best fucking George?
Around Paranel Street, Mount Joyce Square.
Loads of it in Manchester.
Loads of it in London.
Georgian buildings have got sash windows.
These windows are a nightmare in wintertime.
Your classic single glazed fucking window
with all its individual panels, right?
But they don't open out.
They have a drawstring.
and they open up and down.
Right, so that's a Georgian and a Victorian sash window.
Those are actually designed to take advantage of the stack effect, right?
So to use one of those windows effectively as an architectural air conditioner,
you open it in such a way that there's a little space at the top
and a little space at the bottom.
And right now, if you're living in one of the cities in Ireland,
those are the toughest buildings for people right now.
Like in Limerick, that's the cheapest accommodation in the city centre are the old red brick Georgian buildings and they're really fucking hot.
Those windows are intended to be opened with a bit at the top and a bit at the bottom, specifically to exploit the stack effect.
The cold air flows in through the bottom part and the hot air flows out through the top part.
and that's natural Georgian architectural air conditioning.
Some of them even have wood panels
so you could just close the wood over the window completely
and that was another way that they kept their houses cool.
We've forgotten that.
I guarantee you there's a lot of people listening to this fucking podcast
and you have those exact old sash windows.
They're natural air conditioners.
They're trying to exploit the equilibrium of hot and cool air.
So I have a story I want to tell you
And I don't want to interrupt it
So let's have the
Ocarina pause now
I do have an Ocarina this week
So I'm going to play this
Hopefully it won't disturb your dog
And you're going to hear an advert for some bullshit
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I've been falling back in love with making music,
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playing with my analog synthesizers.
More than a decade ago,
I used to be a professional musician.
I didn't like the professional side of things
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It can put you in a situation where you've...
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I have no intention of doing gigs
releasing music
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Instagram as a video
if I like the piece
I've been growing potatoes
and the recent
humidity and the heat
I'm actually after getting blight
one of my potato plants
has shown signs of potato blight
which is to be expected in this fucking weather
so what I've managed to do is
I've hooked
electrodes
hooked electrodes up to the potatoes
as they're the tubers
as they're stuck to this dying plant
I've hooked electrodes
up to the potatoes
and while the potatoes are
still
you know
joined to their plant
then they're alive, they're a living thing.
If I pluck them from the roots, then they're dead,
but these are a living thing.
They're generating a current, a life force.
And I can, that generates a crude electrical signal.
I can then translate that electrical signal
into midi-data that I can control synthesizers with.
So I've been making French house music
out of blight-stricken potatoes.
I appreciate that that sounds a bit mad
maybe it is a bit mad
but it's not harming anyone
it's not hurting anyone
and the lateral thinking
involved in that process
brings me wonderful joy
I mean if you can make
pocheen out of
potatoes
why can't you make house music
so that's what I've been doing
of making house music out of
blighty potatoes
and I'm hoping to
put one of those tracks up on Instagram this week
So upcoming gigs, upcoming live podcasts.
This,
Sunday the 5th of July, next week.
I'm in Sheffield at the Crossed Wires Podcast Festival,
down to the last tickets for this gig.
If you're on the fence and you can make it,
I strongly advise you come to this gig
because I'm going to be speaking to Professor Carl Chin,
who's someone I've spoken to twice before.
I've only put one of the interviews out.
Carl is a fascinating person, a wonderful human being
and he's an expert on the history of the English working class.
I want to radicalise the people of England.
I want to help the people of England
to learn about the radical history of the English working class.
I'd like the people of England to start viewing themselves
as effectively colonised by the Normans.
Your royal family, this paris.
this parasitic fucking class of pricks
that own a lot of the land
that have been there since 1066
that have put great effort
into convincing the working class people of England
that the poor people from other countries
are your fucking enemies
so you need to go to war
I'd be chatting with Carl Chin about that type of stuff
and I can't wait
I can't wait to just to learn from him
so come along to that gig in Sheffield
then October 26
A lot of these are selling out very quickly now
October 26th starting on the 18th
I'm in Brighton and the Brighton Dome
Then to Cardiff on the 20th
The new theatre
Coventry
Bristol at Beacon Hall
That one's nearly gone
Can't wait to get back to Bristol
Then Guildford
Bid of Guilford on the 24th of October
London sold out
Completely sold out in London
Glasgow
As good as sold out last tickets
Gateshead
and finally finishing it off
in Nottingham
Then April 27
Australia and New Zealand
And these gigs are
nearly fucking sold out
So thank you so much
To my listeners down there
But
I'm going to be starting on the
When am I fucking starting
Starting in Auckland
On the 9th of April 27
At the Town Hall
Melbourne the Palais Theatre
Brisbane
The Powerhouse
Pardth
The Astor
theater and Sydney Opera House, Sydney Opera House, which is nearly fuck, Sydney and Melbourne
are both nearly sold out. So again, if you're on the fence, if you're thinking that's a year
away, get your tickets now or you will be disappointed. England, Scotland, well tickets,
fane.com. UK, forward slash the blindby podcast. And then have a crack at my website,
theblindbypodcast.com. I hate telling you to go there just in case it crashes when you do.
This week's podcast, I'm drifting in.
now the themes. I like themes
to emerge as I'm writing this podcast
and something that's definitely emerging.
My love is science.
Thinking about the physics of heat,
connecting electrodes to potatoes.
I adore and love science
because science
to me feels like art. It feels like art.
There's such wonderful room for curiosity and
playfulness. However,
I'm fucking shit at maths.
I can barely count
so that has always been
like Jesus
even when I'm describing to you there
about the stack effect
and hot air and cold air
and densities
I can only access these ideas
using images and words
but I can't express these things through maths
same with the electrodes and the potatoes
I have to use images and words
I would love to be able to approach these
subjects using maths but
fucking forget about it.
I can't, I struggle to read clocks.
And what this is taking me onto is,
just thinking about heatwebs when I was a kid,
when I was a teenager.
I went through all the records of,
you know, the highest temperatures in Limerick
when I was a teenager.
The year 2000,
the hottest it got was 27 degrees.
In 2001, 24 degrees.
24 degrees.
24 degrees was the hottest it got in Limerick in 2001.
The first time it hit the 30s, 2006 it got the 31 degrees.
Then it cooled back down again.
And from 2017 onwards, that's where you start seeing your very evident.
Pattern and trend of global warming, that's where it goes 28 and doesn't drop below it.
I still have memories of very hot summers.
As a teenager, summers where you're going.
couldn't move and it was just boring.
2001 for example there are 24 degrees.
So that's probably just tomorrow.
It was one summer, probably 2001.
I'd have been in school, I was a teenager.
And it was so hot.
There's no mobile phones.
Well, there would have been fucking Nacchia's.
No internet.
I remember it being very, very hot
and very, very boring.
And me and my buddy,
I'm gonna call him Christie,
even though his name isn't Christy.
me and my buddy Christy
we're just going
what are we going to do
what the fuck are we going to do today
it's too hot you can't play soccer
you can't walk around
it's roasting
what the fuck are we going to do with our day
we couldn't get drink
we couldn't get alcohol
because we were under the age of 18
and it was difficult to get alcohol
getting hash in those days
again you needed to have the money
to do it and it wasn't like
now where you've got WhatsApp
you needed to know someone who knew someone
who could go somewhere to go to a dealer's house to get the hash.
So even getting hash back then was very difficult.
So I said, why don't we smoke banana pills?
Let's smoke banana pills, Christy.
Because I heard that they're like LSD.
That was a bit of an urban rumour back then,
that banana pills, when prepared in the right way,
could be smoked and could provide psychedelic effects.
And there was always someone you knew who said,
I tried it and I tripped balls.
The reason I became convinced that smoking banana pills was psychedelic was because...
One of my favorite albums, The Prodigy Experience.
You know, these were the before times, no internet.
So if you owned an album that you enjoyed, this was a religious artifact, a fucking religious artifact.
And my copy of the Prodigy Experience on tape was a religious artifact.
and I would listen to that album
and just stare at the liner notes of that tape
and that's what you had to do
and just imagine things.
I knew every single word
on those liner notes.
On the back of that tape there was a photograph
of the four lads in the Prodigy
and Leroy, the Prodigy member,
he was smoking something that looked
a bit like a joint
and then it had a quote from him
and the quote from Leroy was
and I can remember this exactly
respect to everyone I have met
you're welcome round to smoke some banana skins
any time
so that was it for me
if the prodigy are smoking banana skins
and they're making this astounding
incredible psychedelic rave music
then of course
you can smoke banana skins and get high
the prodigy are saying it
now I'd gotten that album in the early 90s
so I'd been reading it since I was a child
and I've been thinking fucking banana skins.
How am I going to smoke banana skins?
But I didn't know how.
But it was around 2000.
So I didn't have access to the internet in 2000.
So how it worked back then was
there was somebody in school
and that person in school, they had the internet.
And sometimes they download things from the internet,
put them onto floppy disks.
And you could buy them.
You could buy them off your friend who had internet access.
So there was one thing I really wanted to get my hands on.
It was called The Anarchist Cookbook.
It was a book about how to make bombs, how to make bombs from household objects.
It was a legendary book.
But also it was the book that contained the recipe of how to make drugs out of banana skins.
And the Anarchist Cookbook used to pass her own schools on floppy disk and I wanted, because
I did have a PC at home.
it just didn't have the internet.
I wanted this fucking anarchist cookbook.
So I went to my buddy in school
and was like, look, can you
give it to me? Give it to me on a floppy disc.
I would have said to him on a Friday
and he goes, yeah, no worries.
I'll have that disc for you on Monday
and I probably gave him a fiver or something like that.
So on Monday he comes to me
with the floppy disc and says,
there you go. The anarchist cookbook
is on that and I threw some other shit on it as well
just to fill up the space.
So on Monday I got the floppy
went home from school, shoved it into the computer, and there was two things on it.
One of these things changed my life forever.
It wasn't the anarchist cookbook.
It was a copy of a piece of software called Frooty Loops.
Frooty Loops too, I think it was.
Piece of software that allowed you to record music on your computer at home.
I'm recording this podcast right now on Frooty Loops.
Back then it was version 2
Now I'm up at version 26
And it's called FL Studio
But that's what I'm recording this podcast on
That's what I got a music career out of
That software showed me
How to become a music producer
I don't know what the fuck I'd be doing
With my life
If I wasn't given that floppy disc
Because I wasn't looking
For Fruity Loops
I didn't even know what it was
I didn't know you could make music on a computer.
This was just an accident
and I opened it and messed with it
and fucking loved it
and learned how to become a music producer from that.
But the other thing I adored
was the anarchist cookbook.
This illegal manual
of how to make explosives from bleach
or fill a tennis ball
full of matchheads and make a crude grenade
or dissolve styrofoam
into petrol and make napalm
I didn't have a desert to destroy anything
it wasn't a violence thing
I just I loved
having this thing that was so bold
that was so wrong that was so forbidden
this forbidden knowledge
I used to just adore
and read it voraciously
but this one summer
think 2001 fucking heatwave
that's when I said to my buddy Christy
Let's do the banana peels, man
Let's do the fucking banana pills
I've got the recipe
On a floppy disc
On the anarchist cookbook
Let's fucking do it
I'll make it tonight
And we'll smoke it tomorrow
So I went to the shop
And bought two or three bunches of bananas
I made less than the recipe
The recipe called for
15 pounds of bananas
Which is quite a lot
I went for three bunches
I had the problem
Of what the fuck am I going to do with all these bananas
because it was the skins I was after.
There was a dog that I was friends with.
I mentioned this dog, a podcast about four years ago.
His name was Jeff.
And Jeff was the dog.
He was just consistently, he had an erection all the time.
And he had this weird, we'd call it Jeff is taking out the lipstick.
He had this weird dog penis that used to drip all the time.
and there was something
up, but there was something wrong with Jeff
but you know when you're that age
and a dog is just your friend
you know he's just your friend
it wasn't even my dog, it was one of the neighbours' dogs
used to follow me around everywhere
dripping penis
but he was my friend
he was half dashed
what, no, what are the ones
with the fucking, um, the dots
Dalmatian, half Dalmatian
half pointer
weird fucking dog
all was on a horn
but would eat
everything and anything
you give him
would just eat it
so I gave Jeff
three bunches of bananas
which was
about 24 bananas
but 24 25 bananas
I peeled them all
and Jeff ate 25 bananas
and then probably went
and vomited it somewhere
now I had 25 banana skins
and the recipe called for
me
getting a knife
and then scraping
getting those banana pills
and then scraping off
all the white shit
so I scraped all that
into a fucking bowl
I don't know what my man thought of it
I think she'd given up at that point
scraped all the banana
the white bits on the inside
of the banana peel
into a bowl
about slightly larger than my fist
I spread all that onto
grease-proof paper
into the oven for like
two hours
until your left
left with like a crinkly black substance.
Like a sheet of paper if you burnt it.
Real fine crinkly black shit.
Then I put that into a bowl
and I ground it down into a powder using a fork
and put it into a plastic baggie.
This was the anarchist cookbook recipe
and this substance now was called banana dine
and it was as strong as LSD.
And what you do with the banana dean is like you're rolling a joint, get your tobacco, and you sprinkle this banana skin dust into the joint, you roll it, you smoke it, and you have a very powerful psychedelic experience.
So I meet Christy the next day we sit down, fucking roast and heat.
We're not going to move for the day.
And then we decide, okay, let's do it, let's fucking do it.
We're both kind of anxious.
We're scared.
We're like, shit, what if we trip balls and we don't come back?
What if we have a bad trip?
But we do it anyway, we roll the joint, and we smoke it.
And then, both of us kind of start to convince each other that we're feeling something.
I remember us putting our hands in front of our eyes, as if we could see trails.
But really, we're getting nothing.
Then Jeff the dog comes over and sits beside us, with his weeping.
dog penis
and Christy
starts entering
a trance like state
and closes his eyes
like his unconscious
and he's obviously
tripping like mad now
off these fucking banana skins
and I'm looking at him
going fuck I'm not getting anything off this
but maybe
maybe he's getting something
and this is what's about to happen to me
I start shaking him
and I get nothing out of him
and I'm kind of freak
out a bit. Fuck it. Is Christy gone unconscious? What if he has a fit?
Then Jeff the dog comes over
and then he starts licking Christy's
hand. Christy's not budging.
Jeff does that jumpy barky thing that dogs do when you play
dead around them. And then whatever fucking
manoeuvre he did, Jeff now starts trying to have sex
with Christy's head. Lipstick out.
Immediately Christy jolts up. Jolts up because
now he knows Jeff is trying to have sex with his fucking head.
The only thing is
that it smells like fish.
Christy's awake now. He's not stoned anymore.
Jeff, the dog, trying to have sex with his head,
had woken him up rapidly,
and that just killed the buzz.
And then both of us got on with our day and realized
this banana shit is this is bullshit.
I must have made it wrong.
I made it wrong, but this didn't work.
This gave us fucking nothing.
And Christie too had been exposed.
He'd been exposed.
by pretending.
You see, in those days,
something that could bring great teenage shame upon you.
It was the lads who would pretend that they were stoned or worse.
Now I look back in it now with a lot more compassion.
But we used to go bush drinking,
where you'd drink in a hedge or on a roundabout or whatever.
And there was always somebody who was scared, scared of getting drunk.
So what they would do,
or they'd be scared of going home drunk and getting in trouble
because we're like 14, 15.
One lad would always disappear off and pour his can out and then come back pretending to be drunk.
And if you caught doing that, there was great shame.
And Christie had clearly pretended to be tripping balls from the banana skins
and then got exposed by Jeff when he tried to have sex with his head.
Now if any of you are supreme 10-foot declines
and are familiar with my prank phone call work from the early fucking 2000s.
If any of this is ringing a bell
Yes, I had a prank phone call from about 2004
where I rang up a psychotherapist
and claimed that a dog had sex with my head
and the dog got my mind pregnant with the notion of horses
So that prank phone call was directly inspired by
That real incident
With me and Christy smoking banana pills
And Jeff the dog trying to have sex with his head
So it turns out the banana peel stuff was bullshit
What got me thinking about it this week
was the hot weather.
Something about the angle of the sun
or a smell in the air or whatever
or this, I think it was the smell
of really, really dry cut grass.
It brought back that memory of
fuck it, you remember 2001 that summer
you tried to smoke the banana pills?
Oh, fuck yeah.
And then of course I started thinking
fuck it, I must look into that.
You know, that was a big thing.
Smoking banana pills
was an urban legend.
It was there in the Anarchist Cookbook and it was on the back of that Prodigy album
and everyone in school knew about it too and everyone's older brother knew about it.
Smoking banana pills was a thing before the internet.
It was one of these urban legends that survived like Prince removing a rib to suck his own
dick.
It was one of those things that just survived in oral culture because the internet wasn't
around to say that this is false.
So where...
Where the origin of bananas, banana peels are psychedelic drugs, it comes from 1968 I found out.
It was a deliberate hoax.
Without getting into too much detail.
Late 60s in America, you've got your counterculture movement, your hippies, your summer of love.
But it wasn't all taking acid and smoking hash and having sex and listening to Jimmy Hendrix.
There was also hardcore politics behind it, in particular the anti-Vietnam war movement.
Young kids in America were being drafted to fight in Vietnam, and there were huge protests to go,
no, I don't want to do this.
And these kids were radicals.
And before the internet, they would get their information out there.
You had the Black Panthers as well, the Black Panther Party.
Huge protests.
A generation of young people born after World War II.
too.
We're going, no, we want something different.
Before the internet they would get their information out there amongst each other via the underground
press.
They would print independent papers and magazines and pass these things around via word of mouth.
Around 1968, 69, the police and the FBI started to crack down on this behaviour because
it was leaning towards socialism, communism, unions.
was leading towards black American people and white American people gaining class consciousness
and realizing, well, on a second, there's a system here in place and we should fight this system.
So it became difficult for the police and the FBI.
You can't arrest people for protesting.
They would try and there was, oh, I think it was Chicago, 1968, where some students were shot, shot dead.
apologies if I'm wrong on that
but when the police
would crack down
on students and there was violence
this was bad PR
so the police are thinking
how do we crack down on these
middle class white students
how do we get them
and the police start to notice
oh fuck it they're all smoking weed
now cannabis was illegal
cannabis had been illegal in America
I think it was from the
40s onwards
But it was around the hippie movement, the anti-Vietnam War movement,
when the police then started to enforce and arrest people for cannabis.
They started to realize, can't arrest these fuckers for protesting,
but they're all smoking weed, we can arrest them for that.
And that'll put the shits up them.
So when the police started to arrest more and more students for smoking joints,
arresting hippies for smoking weed and possession,
and giving him jail sentences.
That's also where you get your roots of the legalized cannabis movement in the late 60s.
There was one underground paper called the Berkeley Barb.
This was 1970, I think it was.
Actually, in 1970 was when the US it made cannabis a Schedule 1 drug,
which made it very, very illegal, up there with heroin.
So if you're a middle class white student,
and your parents have a few quid and now you get caught with a joint,
now your life from here on in is quite difficult
because you've been caught with a Schedule 1 drug.
So the cannabis legalisation movement starts
and people are thinking this is ridiculous.
Cannabis is just a plant.
It's a plant that grows in the fucking ground.
I can grow it out my back garden.
So if you're telling me if I dry this and smoke,
this plant that just grows everywhere,
I'm a criminal, that this will impact
my employment prospects in the future
that I might go to jail.
So the Berkeley Barb
decided
Let's put out a fake story
Also there was a song in the charts
I think it was 67
You'd know the song
Mellow Yellow by Donovan
They call me me Mellow Yellow
You'd know it
That song came out
And the editor of the Berkeley Barb
This Undergrown newspaper decided
Let's put out a recipe
And tell everybody
That you can dry banana pills
And smoke them
and it's like LSD.
Let's put out this fake story
and say that everyone is doing this.
And the whole point of the hoax
is they were trying to bait the police
into making bananas illegal.
If they could convince enough people
to start trying to smoke bananas,
then the police would start arresting people
for trying to do it,
and then they'd start confiscating bananas.
And if the police start confiscating bananas,
then that exposes the absurdity
of cannabis being illegal.
So that's the roots of where that story came from.
1968, the Barclay Barb.
This is what takes me onto the anarchist cookbook,
which was written in 1970.
So the recipe for banana pills from that underground newspaper,
which should have disappeared,
that ended up in the anarchist cookbook,
and that's what solidified it in history.
That's why it didn't go away,
because now it was in the anarchist cookbook.
The anarchist cookbook was a,
a manual for radicals in the United States on how to wage war on the government.
It was a recipe book of how to make weapons and bombs from everyday household items so that
you could farm domestic terrorism basically against the US government.
It was written in 1970 by a 19-year-old called William Powell, a very angry student, a very angry,
anti-Vietnam War protester who had a look around and said, this is what needs to happen.
We need revolution and it's going to need to be violent. So I'm going to write the manual.
And this manual became the anarchist cookbook. Now where did a 19 year old student, where did he get
the information and how to make bombs, how to make, like sabotage equipment, booby traps, weapons,
where did he get this information? He just went to the library,
and read all the freely available US military training manuals.
You can get all these online now.
US military training manuals had information about how to make fucking bombs.
William Powell re-contextualized this freely available information
and put it in his manual called the Anarchist Cookbook.
He changed the context of information that's already out there.
Even though to this day the Anarchist Cookbook is not illegal,
It's out there, it's published, you can own a copy of it.
But if you look at its history, in America if you commit a crime and the police find you to have a copy of this anarchist cookbook, the crime could be selling drugs, but if you have a copy of the anarchist cookbook, that crime can suddenly change to domestic terrorism.
So again, depending on the context, it's a very serious book to own.
I have a copy of it.
I don't gig America
I don't gig fucking America
because I'm not risking that
The main reason is
I've mentioned it before
In 2019
I made a BBC series
And
A team of me and a team of journalists
We made a replica of
Trump's piss tape
And uploaded it to the dark web
This was all done through BBC
Cleared with lawyers
All that shit
We uploaded it to the dark web
And it was taken down
By definitely the CIA
so I'm on a list
so that's why I won't go to America
but throughout the years
the anarchist cookbook became this
legendary manual
this hidden knowledge
this forbidden book
now on the one hand
a lot of American school shooters
had copies of this book
most people who had it
just had it like me
just had it for curiosity
someone tells you you can't own a book
you want to fucking own it you want to find out what's inside
I mean it's highly relevant this week
in Texas this week
there were protesters
who were protesting against ice
they were given massive sentences
and they were sentenced as domestic terrorists
as part of Donald Trump's crackdown on calling
Antifa
he has decided that Antifa
which doesn't exist
like it's not an organization that you join up
Trump has decided that Antifa is a domestic terrorist organization
and there was eight people in Texas sentenced
between 30 and 100 years, 100 years in prison this week.
For ICE protesters, did they kill anyone?
Were they violent?
No, they were made an example of and tried as domestic terrorists.
A huge part of the evidence, quote-unquote, that was brought against them
to prove that they were a terrorist organization
is that they'd been printing zines, they'd been printing leftist zines.
some of these were just were manuals about sexual consent
another one was a zine about the history of witches
but anyway eight young people
in Texas were sentenced from between 30 and 100 years this week
in a huge miscarry
in fucking fascism
all right this is American fascism
this is what it looks like that's what that is
the shit the people in the 60s were warning about
but none of them had any manuals that were as explicit
as something like the anarchist cookbook.
But when I went looking into William Powell
who wrote the book,
some fascinating things started to emerge.
And it started to explain
my love and fascination with the book
when I was a teenager.
William Powell went on to become a teacher.
He deeply regretted
writing the book when he was 19
because of,
because it was being found
amongst school shooters and things like that.
He died in 2017,
in 2013 he wrote to the Guardian
and basically said
Look I regret writing this book
I'm not the publisher
I don't have a choice in saying that it should be unpublished
It's out of my hands
He said over the years I've come to understand
That the basic premise behind the book is profoundly flawed
The anger that motivated the writing of the cookbook
Blinded me to the illogical notion
That violence can be used to prevent violence
I had fallen for the same irrational pattern of thought
that led the US military involvement in Vietnam and Iraq.
The irony is not lost on me.
Then it emerges that William Powell ended up,
he ended up founding international schools
that specialised in delivering education to children
with dyslexia, ADHD and autism.
The other book he published was published in 2010.
It was about emotional intelligence for teachers.
So this lad ended up
becoming an expert in education
for the neurodivergent kids
that hit me like a ton of bricks
Why when I was
12, 13, 14
Why was I obsessed with this
manual of how to make bombs
out of household items
Why did I love reading this
and I guarantee it too
because I have a lot of noradivergent listeners
If you're around the same age as me,
ye probably had a copy of the anarchist cookbook too.
Now, did I make any of the stuff in this cookbook?
I had a crack at one or two things.
Tried to make explosives out of bleach.
I had to go at the napalm from the styrofoam.
But 99% of the time,
I just loved reading it.
I loved getting home from school
and reading this book that was forbidden.
The important distinction is
I had no badness in my soul
I didn't want to
harm anybody
I didn't want to destroy property
I didn't want to bring sadness upon anybody
I didn't want to
interrupt anyone's day
I wasn't angry like that
at all
I was curious
but why is my curiosity
why bomb making
why is that my curiosity
what the fuck is that about
I'm clearly a person who has a capacity to learn
I'm fascinated by information
I'm good at retaining information
I'm good at understanding information and explaining it
I was always that way
I was that way
in school and I was
the worst student in school
failing fucking everything
by the time I was about
10 I was just written off
the worst
and cast to the same
in the system. Where does curiosity and ambition and drive and intense focus go when you're that kid?
Well I'd decided at about the age of 11 or 12. Well I can't do this fucking school shit.
I know I'm supposed to be learning science, I'm supposed to be learning geography, but I can't pay attention.
I can't do this. I now know. It's impossible for me to learn in a classroom environment. It's
my nervous system just will not allow it.
Like I can't learn from a teacher,
a human being telling me information with their face
because I'm autistic, so much of the effort
goes into, I'm talking to a human being.
And this bit is really fucking difficult
and I'm worrying about my body language
and sitting still and reading their body language.
So that information, that's not fucking going in.
And I'm completely and utterly overstimulated
by the fact that I'm in a classroom with so many human beings.
So there's no learning happening here.
My curiosity and passion had to be something I compartmentalized and did by myself at home
on my own where I could learn autodidactically.
But because I was a child, my identity, I identified with being bad.
I can't be good.
I can't behave myself.
I can't get good marks in school no matter how much I try.
The teachers keep calling me stupid, keep calling me bad.
So, at the level of maturity I had at that time I had to identify with being bad.
My self-esteem and worth came from being the baddest.
Being the most disruptive, the craziest, the one who's capable of anything.
That...
I got status from that amongst my peers.
The whispers.
Oh, he's a mad fucking cunt.
He knows how to make bombs.
He knows how to grow.
Gosh, he's a lunatic, he's like a mad scientist.
That gave me status and self-esteem and identity and a feeling of worth, being the baddest.
The Anarchus Cupbook is a, it's a science manual, a very fucking crude.
Deeply wrong science manual.
But it's full of information about chemistry.
I remember reading about how to make the explosive from bleach and potassium hypochloride and potassium hypochlorate.
It felt safe to explore my passion and curiosity and desire to learn about science.
It felt safe to do this in a space which aligned with my sense of identity.
Why couldn't he just picked up your biology book?
Why couldn't he just...
Your biology book was full of fucking science experiments.
Loads of them.
I can't do that.
Then I'd be a fucking nerd.
I'm... I'm bad.
I don't give a fuck about that.
What, the teachers are telling me to read?
Fuck them.
Not reading the science book like I'm supposed to read.
Fuck that.
I want to read this book, this forbidden book,
about making bombs,
even though it's all just chemistry.
My other book was the Marijuana Growers Guide,
which was, again, a book from the 1960s.
It was from California.
Ed Rosenthal, I think, was the writer.
He was one of these 60s hippies,
and he had written the manual on how to grow cannabis.
But this manual, it's a serious botany manuscript.
and I fucking devoured it.
I felt safe when I read it.
I felt happy.
I felt regulated.
I mean, what am I doing?
I'm reading a manual about fucking botany,
about how plants worked,
about geotropism, phototropism,
sunlight, photosynthesis.
That's what the fuck I'm reading.
But when the book is about growing cannabis
and I'm 14,
it feels safe because it aligns with my identity
of being a misfit and being the book.
baddest and being a little criminal. I think I told you the story before but I ended up, I sat,
it was during my junior cert, I sat the agricultural science paper, which was not taught in my school.
And I sat that paper and I got 100%. And when I did that, I got called to the principal's office.
Because they're like, what the fuck? How did you get 100% in a subject we don't even teach?
My parents got called in.
I was accused of cheating
because they're just like,
we don't know how he did it
but he cheated here
and I couldn't tell him.
Actually, it's this book here,
the Marijuana Growers Guide.
I know bookloads about
botany and plants
and plant science
because of this book
but I can't tell you
because now I'm admitting
to doing something illegal
and reading about William Powell
reading about the fella who wrote
the Anarchist Cup book
and then seeing where his career went
it just opened up a lot for me this week.
Another quote from his article in The Guardian
that he sent them in 2013
trying to distance himself from the anarchist cookbook.
He says,
two years ago I co-authored the book entitled
Becoming an Emotionally Intelligent Teacher.
Although it's written for educators,
the book serves as an implicit refutation
of the emotional immaturity of the anarchist cookbook.
But the premise is that
all learning takes place
in a social context
and that the teachers
with a high degree
of emotional intelligence
construct relationships
with students that enhance
learning.
That's what I was doing.
I was learning.
I was being curious.
I was learning about fucking science
but that the social context
for me as an autistic kid
was very different.
I had identified with being bad.
So my learning and curiosity
and ambition
had to express itself
within that context
because that's what felt safe to my identity.
Reading a school, I would have been embarrassed.
Honest to fuck,
to pick up my...
I still have my leave-insert English book.
At the age that I am now,
as a published writer
and as someone who's...
My story's being turned into plays for the Abbey Theatre.
I look at my leave-insert English book
and the wonderful poems that are in there
and the amazing short stories that are in there.
And I go, oh my God, I can't believe.
I was in school and had the opportunity to learn this shit.
You mean, I could have been 16,
and I had the opportunity here to be reading Oscar Wilde?
At 16?
I couldn't do it.
I'd have been embarrassed, mortified.
My identity, it was too far gone,
I had identified with being bad.
So to read the school textbook,
I would have felt shame.
I would have felt like a nerd.
So my passion for learning went into
the chemistry of how to make bombs,
botany, growing cannabis,
and even for music, it was, you know,
my creativity and writing went into prank phone calls
when I was in 50th year, which was illegal.
It was illegal to record phone calls
and producing songs about sniffing glue.
I'm doing this, I suppose, for...
Like, I had personal insight.
I didn't know that about the fellow who wrote the fucking anarchist cookbook.
I didn't know that he ended up being an educator specifically for neurodivergent kids
using emotional intelligence to try and understand what is the social context for learning
for this particular individual.
Like another time I'd really apply myself in school.
I used to get detention an awful lot.
I'd be in detention every week.
used to have to come into school on a fucking Saturday
in your school uniform
which I used to wear like a badge of honour
I used to walk around Limerick City
in my school uniform on a Saturday
because that meant he's got detention
what a rebel but when you had detention
one of the cruel things about it was
you weren't allowed to do schoolwork
so you couldn't use detention as an opportunity
which is really fucking shit
couldn't use detention as an opportunity
to do the homework you were supposed to do
Instead in detention you had to write punishment essays and the big punishment essay.
And this shows you how the lack of emotional intelligence within the school system that I grew up in,
the punishment essay that we were given was, write a thousand words about the inside of a tennis ball.
This was considered a pointless task.
Like a Sisyphus type of fucking thing.
punish a student by saying to them, you have to write about the inside of a tennis ball.
That's not punishment if you're creative.
It's the greatest thing you could possibly be asked.
It's limitless.
So every week I would write a new essay about the inside of a fucking tennis ball.
I used to love it.
And I got to be a little nerd.
I got to explore my...
My capacity and talent to be a creative writer.
Because the context was, this isn't schoolwork.
This is punishment.
So write your thousand words and enjoy it.
You're still being bad.
You're still disruptive.
It's a punishment essay.
And I used to adore it.
And there was one teacher.
And I used to love it when this teacher was supervising a detention.
His name was Mr Crow.
I've mentioned him before.
He was an English teacher.
And he used to love my essays about the insides of tennis balls.
He used to read them out loud.
used to read them out loud
to students in other classes
and I remember one time
it got back to me
he was teaching one of the
the A classes
so the A classes were
they were the best students
because in those days
in the 2000s
the late 90s
very stratified
I don't think to do this shit anymore
but the best students
were up in the A class
I wasn't I was down in the lowest
of the B classes
class of about 13 kids
all
nor a divergent dyslexic
kids from troubled backgrounds
kids experiencing abuse
or poverty the unteachables
but anyway he was teaching one of these A
classes
and I think the students in there were
talking shit about me
whatever they were saying about me was quite negative
and he heard this
and he turned to those students
and he said do you realise
that that young fella has got the best command
of English in this school
and everyone went quiet and that got
back to me, that story got back to me
by a buddy of mine who was in the class
and when I heard it I remember crying
I didn't know what, I was, I cried
because it was the first time
I had ever felt safe, being
fucking praised for schoolwork
even though it was punishment essays
I felt
I felt safe being praised
for being seen as smart
I don't think there's any 13 year olds
or 14 year olds listening to this podcast
but there's definitely teachers
listening. I know there's teachers listening to
podcast are parents who have teenagers that were like me and I suppose you to use what
William Powell said there the premise is that all learning takes place in a
social context so find out what that context is curiosity is curiosity passion
like I've now grown up to be a middle-aged man who I open a window in my house
and it becomes about ancient Persia or I'm growing potatoes and now
trying to make house music out of him.
I'm still doing the anarchist cookbook,
except now I've made a career out of it.
That's all I have time for this week.
This podcast was half hot dig, half phone call,
drifting in between the two positions.
Rub a dog.
Wink at a swan.
Jen, you fleck to a rain.
I'll catch you next week.
Dog bless.
