The Break-Up Diet - I Didn’t Know He Was Married… Until His Wife Texted Me

Episode Date: April 1, 2026

He told her he was getting divorced…so why did his wife message her a year later?Karma is a bitch…This week on The Break-Up Diet, things get messy… and we mean messy.We’re talking break-up lies, pretending you’re “over it” when you’re definitely not, ignoring your own boundaries, and that very real urge to want someone back the second they move on.You know… the things we all do but never admit.I’m joined by Josefin Eklund, and we get into everything — rebounds, stalking your ex’s stories (be honest), posting just to get a reaction, and whether we’d actually take an ex back if they changed.But then… it takes a turn.Because what happens when you realise you might have been the other woman… without even knowing it?And suddenly you’re asking yourself:was I the villain in someone else’s story?It’s giving blurred lines, mixed signals, and a reality check you didn’t see coming.Messy, honest, and a little bit unhinged in the best way.If you’ve ever lied about being “over it”… this one’s for you.Go on — you’re going to want to hear this one. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

that you had been meeting up with my husband. I found pictures of you and him, and he told me you were another slut. That hangs out in the villa in can. I just hope this never happens to you, but karma is a bitch. Thank you for being a girl. I hope this will happen to you, but karma is a bitch. Buckle up, bitches. It's going to get bumpy.

This is the breakup diet. Welcome back to another episode. Before we get into it, you're going to have to. to subscribe and follow and give us a like. Everything helps. So make sure you do that. And today we have a very, very special guest back again on the podcast. Welcome, Josephine.

Thank you. So what I'm thinking today, we're going to do some questions that are in this thing. Do you want to go first? You want to pick one or should I? Pick one. Pick one. Okay. You start.

Okay. Have you ever wanted someone back just because they moved on? Is that question for me? Yeah. okay well no one else is in the room well for you we both answer it we can both answer it yeah yeah yeah no no so you never wanted something back because no one has moved on to be honest no i mean it's like it was like my first a breakup was like a mutual kind of yeah the second one i broke up with him and i don't think he's over me yeah yeah okay so

you're fine because no one has but if they had maybe you're feeling good. Oh if they had then yeah, probably won't. So I can be the one saying no I don't want you. Okay, fair, for fair. I get you. Yeah, but that's the ego, that's like an ego thing. Yeah, for sure. For sure. Okay, next one.

Have you ever ignored your own boundaries to keep someone? Yeah, of course, yeah. All the time. All the time. Yeah, well, I don't even know what my boundaries are anymore. Do you don't have any boundaries? I mean, I know what I'm okay with. Yeah.

And I know like, yeah, like if someone, something happens that I'm not okay with, I still, I still like, not accepting it. No, I just want to leave it behind and then. You kind of put a blind guy. Yeah. That's not good. That's not good. I know.

I know. I'm like, this is not what we're preaching on this. Yeah. I mean, but that's, that's related. like people do do that in general. I feel like I've done that too. Like you... Yeah, I come up with excuses for that person.

If a person would like chino me. Yeah. I would be like, okay, but maybe it's because it's and that and that. It's only when you really, really love someone though. I think you would do that. If you do it and you would be like, ugh. Yeah. What break you have lied?

Did you tell people the same face? When you're not actually okay, but you feel like you should be okay, you kind of... It's not that you're... lie but like if someone asked me I'd be like oh yeah I don't care anymore when really like I probably did still care but it was like yeah you know what I mean like I want to say I don't care because then I'll believe it soon and especially if it's been like a long time and you don't want to keep yeah

you know what I mean I'd probably say to not my close friends but like to people that weren't as close I'd really be like yeah I don't care anymore like his loss when really I'm there crying in bed like yeah yeah yeah so that's probably one of my breakup lies to say face. What's one of your breakup lies? Do you have a breakup lie? No, I don't think so. No, I'll just be like, no, I'm very sad.

Yeah, fair. Yeah. Even if it was like a long time after, you would still do that. If something happened, then I'm like, like bad happen. Yeah. And I kind of, I don't know, because I always like stayed in contact. So, I, it's, that's, that's the difficult one. Would you ever lie about a reason you've broken up with someone?

No. Fair. No. Fair. I don't have to lie about it. Have you ever missed the idea of someone more than the actual person? Yeah. Yeah.

Okay, can you explain? And why do you think that was? Like, I need details. The idea of the person do you mean like... So it's like what you do. Yeah, no, of course. Like, I've, like, I've fallen in love with people because of potential. Yeah.

Like, what it could be, like my idea of what I would like it to be. So, yeah. that's right yes it's hard not to I think I think in any relationship really like if you're entering into a relationship with someone you're spending time with them you kind of inevitably do think about the future and then you kind of do get like caught up in it yeah yeah even if it's not like it's not got to be like that at all and it's also kind of fun like it is kind of fun to think about like the future and then be like oh it's going to be like this but yeah so so many times like with anything yeah isn't it that you what you think it's going to be like it's not

like that hmm did you ever see like a future like a lifetime with your eggs no no no no because i just think you can't think too too too too far ahead but maybe that's because i haven't met my person but like when you can't think too far ahead because you don't know no you're gonna know from like three years ago i'm so different in the way that i am yeah and i don't know if the next three years I'll change even more or that was like my big growth kind of I don't know but you always change I think yeah I'm just so different so I don't know how I because you learn more and you meet more people and new different things that you learn from yeah it's hard to say like I never but I never thought about necessarily never thought about long long long long term am I is this going to be my

husband husband husband there are definitely qualities in that person that person that I loved. Mm-hmm. But you know what I mean? Like, I never pictured it in my head 100%. But I don't know if I would with anyone. Yeah. I mean, I would, yeah, I would.

Yeah. With one person, I've actually felt like I could be with him, like, for a lifetime. Have you ever been the villain in someone else's breakup story? That's like if you're the other woman or if you're, you know what I mean? Like, no, not necessarily the other woman, but like a villain. in it yeah no can we talk about the other woman thing okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay no so I what do you think about that if you're like if you know that you're at a woman I think you're as bad as the person who's like cheating on whoever person is with yeah I do too and I don't want to condone it

at all but then also I feel like I would be unrealistic to say like when you're so incredibly in love with someone and then yeah also being like telling you all those things I think I don't condone it if they're like if they lie to you yeah they'd be like lying to you and saying how much they love oh yeah but also like if they you know I think it'd be so hard like if I'm being completely honest it's so hard to not secretly hope that you would be the main woman yeah like I wouldn't do it if I was like if it was me in that situation but then I've never been in that situation where I'm so enamored by

somebody else because yeah it's no it's not even a difficult one for me i think like if you know that someone is in a relationship is it because you know the person or no no even if i don't know the person yeah and i don't care about that person because i had this before yeah um so when i found out i didn't even find out like he was kind of like being a bit unclear about his relationship with her Okay, okay. So then I didn't care because I didn't know. But when I kind of like find out myself, then I was like, no, I don't want it. Like, we can hang out.

Yeah. But I can't like, have sex, would you? Yeah, I agree. Because that's not fair to her and I'm as involved in that as you are. Even if I'm single and I'm not the one in a relationship. I agree, I agree. And I don't feel like bad for her because I don't know her. personally yeah but I think I'm part of it as much as he yeah yeah I agree I agree with that

and then it's hard it's really hard to if you're like really love someone yeah because you you you secretly want to be not even oh yeah you want to be with them but then you have to put up that boundary because you're like yeah that's not right I agree with that yeah it's a different story if you don't know if you don't know then it's like yeah no but I had this person who I was who lied to me and said he was single and he was like going through divorce and they didn't like it was a whole story right and she contacted me god did i tell you about that no no so his wife contacted me but he lied about everything and i believed it yeah you're you're it was a lot like his friends were around like all my friends were around and he's like

yeah like we just had a baby okay they just had it like a baby oh my god not even like a year old and what he said that they were just like getting divorced and that was it yeah they didn't moved out, they don't live together, but it's kind of like a messy divorce. And I was like, for me, he was just a rebound. But I had no idea about that. Wait, how did you find out? Because she contacted me, his wife. Saying what?

Saying, do you want me to read a message? Yeah, yeah, read the message. Read the message. So you had no idea. I had no idea, no. Like zero. My friend of mine, when I said to her, like, I met this guy. and she said to me she's like but he's married right and I was like don't know because he told me like they're going through divorce yeah they're getting divorce or they were like I believe no they were

going through divorce but they moved out and they're not like in a relationship okay um and he was put me in front of his friends too so obviously like I yeah yeah and then I got a message from her a year later saying hi Josephine I just found text messages on what up that you had been meeting up with my husband. I found pictures of you and him and he told me you were another slut that hangs out in the villa in can. That what? That he hangs out in the villa in can. It was in can't. I just hope this never happens to you, but karma is a bitch. Thank you for being a girl's girl. I hope this will happen to you, but karma is a bitch. Thank you. Thank you for being a girl's girl. Wait, wait, is this the first message you ever.

Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for me. So it's like, sorry. Karma is a bit. Yeah, karma's a bitch. But obviously, like, she, yeah. No, I get why she's annoyed, but like, karma's a bitch and then thank you for being a girl's girl. So, like, you will get your karma because. She was hoping that I would be.

And obviously, because I am, so I said, hi, her name, when I met his name in Cannes two summers ago, two summers ago, I had no idea that he was still married. He told me he wasn't. I later found out from a mutual friend and obviously stopped talking to him. I'm genuinely so sorry.

I hope you're okay and I'm here if you have any questions. So I want to talk. He told me a story and I just assumed it was telling me the truth. Since he didn't care about photos being posted on Instagram. Yeah. He was very open about it all. Because that's the thing. Like I posted pictures and stories and videos.

Like that is the thing. I feel like people get away with you. this is so bad but I feel like people get away with cheating when they're so, it's so in the open. Yeah. Because you think like, oh, he definitely is single because you're posting the photos. Oh, he wouldn't want to do this in front of his friends that know her. Yeah. So like, that's why I feel like people get away with cheating. Yeah. And it's so messed up. Obviously, all of these friends were lying for him to. Yeah, or even, yeah, they just don't want to get involved. Yeah, I didn't want to get involved. They didn't want to get involved. She'd say nothing. It's actually

wild. I actually like, I, yeah. That's terrifying. I mean, I sent him a message and after that. Yeah. And I said like, hi, do you want to tell her the truth or should I? Yeah. And he's like, no, please, please don't. Because if you do, no, because he said, no, because he said she's mentally unstable.

And I said I would be mentally unstable, mentally unstable if I was with someone who, if my husband were lying to me. And then I blocked him. So. That's wild. Yeah. Yeah. That's so messed up. Yeah.

And then you go ask you any more questions. Oh, we had a phone call for like an hour. That's so good of you. Yeah. And were you like honest, honest with everything? Oh yeah, for sure. I sent her pictures and everything. And I blocked him and like, I, yeah.

Oh my gosh. So bad because obviously like he lied to her and to me. Yeah. If he was telling me the truth, I would be part of that. Yeah. Like I would be as guilty, not maybe not as guilty as him. Yeah, but you would still be a part of it. You knew about it.

Yeah. That's the thing with... So I'm like, I hate girls. You say like, or guys, whatever. He'd be like, who'd be like, I'm single. I'm not the one in a relationship. Yeah, yeah, I don't agree with that. So...

I think there's a line if you're, you don't know about it. And I think it would be... Oh, yeah. At the start of the question, I think it would be really difficult when you're that, like, in love with somebody. And they're like... Oh, yeah. Telling you everything that you want to hear, but then, like,

You don't want to mean, you've never seen the goal, you don't know about the girl. I think it would be a very hard line not to cross, but I think the thing is you have to stay true to your guns. Because if they did it to them, I reckon they're going to do it too. Yeah. Not always. Not always. But I feel like there's a high chance when it starts. Yeah.

When it starts in that way, I think there's a high chance. Don't believe in it. I don't believe like if you cheat ones, you always do it. I don't think if you cheat ones, but I think if they're going to the level of... If he did it is so easy with some, I don't know. If they're going to that level of lying to both parties to like cover tracks to say this, to say one person mentally, then I think they do. That's really bad.

Yeah. Then I think it's like a characteristic that they then are that type of person. I don't think one's a cheater or is a cheater. No. Because I think you can be young. You can also be in a relationship that isn't serving you. And it's like you should break up, but you haven't. And then you do.

It's still wrong. It's so wrong. I would not want to date someone or I would not want to do it myself. but I can see people that do do it that then aren't bad people. Yeah. Are you the type to cut people off or drag things out? It depends. If they're like a really close friend or like a partner or something like this,

like have a close relationship with me, I won't cut them out. There'll be lots of chances. But once you cross that, you're done. There's like, that's a level. And it might be like. And then there's no way back. Yeah. Yeah.

But once it's done, it's done. but I do give people a lot of chances before I'm fully like nah. Same. Yeah. It's hard. I think it's hard, especially when you're really close to someone. I know. It's easier at the start.

Like if you're not really good friends with them and then they do something and then you're like, oh. No, like, I mean, my standards are pretty low. That's what I'd see. Do you ever get a feeling where you feel like you've given a lot and then when they don't turn up for you? Like, you know what I mean? Do you feel let down ever or not really? not maybe not in relationships were like like romantic relationships friends relationships oh yeah yeah yeah yeah where you like make time for them a lot

and the others all do things for them but then if or not even that just like common sense yeah fair give an example of like some sort of thing it doesn't have to be specific to your situation but like just causing drama from nothing it's like yeah coming up with lies like yeah i don't i don't i don't didn't have a good example now like I have a lot of examples but that's a completely different yeah story I know you're going to say yes okay have you ever gone on a date just to prove you're fine to prove I'm fine yeah like you don't care anymore you're over it like if you had a rebound you've gone on a date even though you shouldn't oh yeah yeah I love that I was like you're like trying to work it out. I'm like, I know you know. You're like, I'm so over then.

Yeah. Are you a jumper in relationships, do you think? Sorry. Do you find the best way to get over someone is to get under? No, it's the worst. I think that's the worst. I think that's the worst. But do you do it? I mean, I've done it. I don't think I would do it now. Yeah, fair. Um, because it really doesn't help. It's like, because you compare that person. No. It's like a band. It's not going to, no, if you're like really in love with someone and you break out and, and, Because I don't like sex much, like especially with like strangers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.

Or people I'm not like, no, I'm not attracted to most people. Yeah, I second that. Fair, fair, fair. Valid point. Most people are gross. Yeah. And also, like, they might even be hot, but you just don't even, like, find them sexy. No, no, no, someone can be, like, really attractive.

Like, that person is really, like, good looking. Yeah, but you can feel nothing. They're not sexually attractive. Yeah, it's weird. And you know what's weird? Why some people that aren't necessarily like a 10-10, and then you're like, ooh, hold on. What is that about?

I find that weird. Would you take an ex back if they actually have changed? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Maybe not now, because there's been a few times. But then I'm saying that, but would I probably would, which is not the thing. Yeah, I would change.

even if they just changed a little bit i would take them back no this is not good you're saying this if they're done they're done we're exing i'm canceling out that question because we should say no but i want to be sure like i need to be sure they have if they've changed and you still want things that they want and you align then sure yeah but if they don't like align with you as a person anymore then yeah yeah true you know what i mean like you have to be like they still have to be somebody that like you could see a future with and like have the oh yeah you need to like I don't want to ever be with someone again that I don't see future with yeah same I mean I thought like at the start I said I wasn't

sure but like I also wouldn't have even started a relationship with anyone if I didn't see qualities that I could yeah my future yeah what I saw block or mute mute mute mute why not block because that's a bit dramatic isn't it Mute, yeah. I think, blocking. I would mute because that just, no, I think blocking is too dramatic. Too harsh. And it looks so much so butt hurt, doesn't it?

Yeah, I'm mute, but I don't want to see, for myself, I don't want to see that person if I break up with someone. Yeah. Or if someone breaks up with me. Yeah. I don't want to see, like, to get over with that person. How? So I just mute.

How long? I muted so many people. like no just content i don't want to see okay fair i better not be muted no no no you're not i still like you so thank you um the um how long like after you break up would you block someone like straight away i never ever block get unblock people really i'm mute it depends on like if you actually like break up and it's like done done like if you live with someone and you move out And no, as soon as you want to get over that person, as soon as you actually feel like I need to get over him.

Yeah. Because then I don't think it's good for you to see. Yeah. And what would you say for somebody, though, that has muted but then still looks at their stuff? Oh, that's stop doing it. That was me. That was the middle.

Not this time. This time I'm fine. Yeah. But last time I had my ex muted, but I would still like... Oh, yeah. I used to do that too. All the time. No, I had a lot.

At one point, I didn't block. And then we'd still have his name on my, like, other accounts. Yeah. But, no, I just do it for my account. Oh, no. But, like, I, yeah. No, but I hadn't blocked. But then, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, it's hard. But, yeah, definitely mute. I think mute looks better than if you block someone. Because they don't know. They don't know if you move. Yeah. It's a bit, like, it's not dramatic. I mean, you kind of do know.

For yourself. You kind of do know if, like, I know that my ex muted me because he used to always look at my stories all the time. And now, now, he looks at my stories, so I know that I'm muted, but he still searches up my name. And that is some great, great ego boost for me. I'm like, you're still thinking, but I know I'm muted. Yeah.

Because you won't see them for, like, hours, whereas, like, normally I think he would see them way far. Yeah. Like, in the past, they used to do, like, if I didn't want it, because I didn't want a person to see that I've looked on a, stories. So I used I just if I I would ask someone else to look for example. Yeah. Fav. Um, but now I really don't care. Like I don't care. Like yeah, I do want to see your stories still because I'm not over you. Yeah. Also, yeah. I don't think it's that deep. Like once you know,

once you move on or the other person moves on or whatever, they're not looking. Yeah, then that's yeah. You know, yeah. I think, yeah, at the start, like, I would look all the time. If someone is seen it anyone even situation shifts but now i don't care like i barely look at who looks but like last time i yeah and like any other time like before i've had a situation ship breakup i have looked like a post in a hot store and be like ha would you post like pictures on your instagram after a breakup for that person to see oh like close friends and add only that person i've done it i think i have done it I think I have done it I even like before my first breakup

I used to because it was lockdown yeah I made a dinner or something for two people like I wanted to post it so it looked like I was someday oh god so two plates two glasses of wine that you didn't there was no day

I was eating better than that's funny what did you post it just on your close friends yeah just on close friends he was the only one on my clothes list I don't think I've ever done something like that and then I borrowed a hand

I was out and then you borrowed a hand when I was like I need a man like your hat I need a male hand for a picture like just like cheers or something

with me and yeah did it do the job like I was I got a reaction on it so it did the job success Yes.

But he can, no, I'm not sure about it because the reaction was kind of like, he knew I was trying to make him jealous. Okay, okay, okay. So, it was funny, I think. But did he actually think he really did he really do that? No. Okay, he knew that you were doing it on secret. Oh, no, that's not what you want.

Like, if you're got to commit to something like that, you've got to commit so they can't find out. Yeah, I know. I know. I'm trying to think of what I posted. This isn't even with my ex, I don't think. this is like before. With him, I don't think I did anything like that. I used to remove him off my close friends.

Is that not so bad? You removed. My boyfriend off my close friends if I wanted to post like, I can't be bothered for him to think that like, to be that I'm doing this for anybody in particular. So I just like took him off my close friend. Okay, okay. But that's fair, I think.

I mean, I don't think you should be taking your boyfriend off your close friend. Oh, your boyfriend at that time, not you like your ex. No, no, no, no, my boyfriend at that time. Right, okay. I was like, I was like, this really cool outfit and, like, I look hot. Yeah. It was like, girls only. I was like, can't be bothered.

Okay, okay. Cloasure or revenge? No, sure. Yeah. Yeah, I don't believe in a revenge anymore, like, anymore. Yeah, fair. Fair. I think it's, like, revenge is, like, a temporary thing that you're angry, and then the best revenge is

having the closure and then moving on and being happy. Yeah. I've done revenge once. Oh God, what did you do? And it's just backfired. Like, really, it's just like... What did you do? You know what I did.

I know what you did. Sorry, I like clocked. I was like, what did you do? I regret that. I don't believe in revenge, really. That wasn't really like something I planned. That was just, I was really hurt. Yeah, and you're like, I want him to hurt because he didn't even want to hurt him.

I just wanted to do that to make myself feel a bit of, better yeah and did I know no even in the moment or no in a moment probably yeah yeah well thank you so much oh coming on the breakup diet again you smashed it i loved it it's fun