The Break-Up Diet - Stop Waiting for Closure. Choose Yourself. Checking In with Ashleigh Berry

Episode Date: October 8, 2025

What if the closure you’re waiting for isn’t theirs to give?This week, we sit down with Ashleigh Berry from Love Is Blind UK Season 2 for a raw and honest chat about heartbreak in the spotlight, healing in private, and the quiet courage it takes to choose yourself after a very public “no.”Ashleigh opens up about her journey with Billy, the man she married in the experiment, and what it was really like to relive their breakup on national TV. She shares how anniversaries can live in your body, the grounding rituals that kept her steady when the internet had opinions about her life, and what choosing peace over performance really looks like.We dive into balancing a career you love with the pressure to compromise, the fine line between flexibility and losing yourself, and what real partnership means when both people are still growing.Ashleigh also shares her favourite healing tool: voice-note check-ins — an easy but powerful way to hear your own growth in real time (and honestly, way less effort than journaling).If you’re going through heartbreak, figuring out long-distance love, or learning how to protect your peace while staying ambitious, this one’s for you. We talk boundaries, real communication, and why saying “no” is one of the kindest things you can do — for you.Press play, take what you need, and remember: closure isn’t always a conversation. Sometimes, it’s a decision. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome back to another episode of The Breakup Diet. This is Yaz and Ilms. Today, we are joined by who I would say is like the Princess Diana of Love is Blind. Season 2, UK, Ashley Berry. Come check into this flight. Upper class, please. First fly only. Oh, my gosh.

With cake. With cake on demand and tea. I love that. Thank you. Thanks for having me on. Thanks for checking me in. Oh, my. Wow.

It was so smooth. Yeah, so the boarding process was easy, right? But the ride's going to be bumpy. No, I'm joking. No, it won't. You won't. Hang on, let's stop this for a sec. Subscribe and follow the breakup diet.

You don't want to miss another episode. How are you? What's been going on? Your life, like, you've gone from, I guess, anonymous, like, to everyone knowing you. Yeah. How is that? It's been, it's been turbulent. Is it bumpy?

Yeah, I found, yeah, I found kind of watching it back, having to do the reunion, then kind of transitioning back into like the real world, if you like, and back to my day job. It's been tough. It has, I'm not going to lie, you know, I think you gain a part of closure when you do the show and you kind of know it's over with him and, you know, we shut that door and I kind of tried to rebuild myself. but then you film the reunion and then you watch yourself and everyone else has an opinion on it now and that's been really hard kind of processing that trauma again of the breakup and how I was feeling and who I am now. So it's been a real place of like self-discovery

the last couple of months since the reunion and just really focusing on healing, you know, me. Let's switch it up. We've been holding back way too much. Welcome to the breakup diet. I think it must be hard actually I've never thought about that when you have like you film it

you kind of put it in a box put it away you can't talk about it either yes because obviously we've signed NDA so when we broke up like obviously my family knew because they were part of the show that was it oh my gosh so then you tell your friends and family because it's on the screen and then you then

relive that because you have to talk to people they're like well what happened you know they want to know more than just the show so yeah you're right yes it's Yeah, you have to like fully go back into it even though you might just be coming out and just be feeling good again almost and like, you're on that like cliff edge

or the roller coaster, you're like, I'm about to go down the drop and you're like, oh no, yeah, I've got a really, yeah, think about this and kind of stop in that roller coaster again and process it again. How long ago was a reunion now? That was filmed in August time. That's so recent.

Yeah. That's literally just like six weeks ago. Six weeks ago. And obviously, thanks so much having me on this week, but this week, a year ago, I got married. to Billy and I think I've actually really struggled emotionally kind of that was my real wedding day and I hoped it would be the only wedding day I had. It was super amazing and at the time it was the best day of my life. So I've been kind of struggling with like that emotional side

the last few weeks as well. Wow, what a year. Because often we talk about like stress or trauma being stuck in the body. So obviously you know that it was your wedding day like a year ago. Did you have any gut feel? Like it was your mood? just like a massive switch over the last few weeks or like two weeks when you might not have realised at that exact moment but now you're like oh that's because oh my wedding was like yeah perhaps perhaps that's been it goes because i've actually felt really low the last couple of weeks and then when i actually paused and thought this time last year i was had that nervous wedding feel like you do preempting you know the biggest day of your life the biggest commitment you're going to make in your

life. Yeah, I feel like if I actually listen to that, my body was telling me, wow, you were going through a lot this time last year and be kind to yourself, you know. What's been like your self-discovery journey since? Gosh, huge, transformative. Yeah. I think one of the biggest learnings I've had since the breakup is learning to be comfortable with myself. And I think when we go into relationships, however long they may be, you can sometimes just give all of you and all of your time. And that's what I did to Billy. And actually, when you break up, you're like, I was like, whoa, what's my purpose now? Who am I? I actually kind of started like doing loads of new hobbies because I was like trying to find myself again. And I've really found actually a purpose

in who I'm meant to be and like being comfortable, just being on my own, like in my own space, with my soul, with all of my flaws, with all of my great things I bring to life. Like, I've just tried to understand Ashley a bit better and understand what Ashley needs. And I think saying no, you talked about that in one of your podcasts, I've really learned the power of saying no, because that's not normally what I would say. I wouldn't really want to let people down. I'm a bit of a people pleaseer in the past. Yeah.

And being finally comfortable with myself. Like, yeah, that's huge. That is so great. It is so beautiful, because at the end of the day, like, you only have yourself. Like, you only have yourself to protect, look after, like, nurture. And I feel like if we practice kindness to ourselves, we can be so much better as people, as friends, as partners to the people around us. Exactly. Yeah.

Self-love is the most important love. I think we need to all start with. And it's hard sometimes to find that. That should be on the top of the list, not a relationship with a man. The first form of love should be self-love. Yeah. It's so funny, isn't it? Because lots of people neglect self-love and find it within somebody else.

To be fair, I probably have done that. Oh, we all have. That's why we're here. Yeah. But the moment you do love yourself, I think people do walk in that are special. The best people who are more aligned to you. I mean, that's how we all found each other. Like, the second you choose yourself, you find your people.

Like, I found you. Yeah. Yeah. I almost love story again. These three love stories here. Yeah, exactly. In this case, love isn't blind. Love is shouted.

Yeah. Yeah. I think you shine brighter as well when you love yourself and you're more visible to people and people are like, oh my God, she's so confident in that and she really truly believes in herself and I think that's really attractive. I think you came across like that in the show. Do you? I think you really did.

I have never seen as genuine of a person on. reality TV than you seriously yeah there is no one like you that I could even like categorize you with like you are on your own league and I mean it in the best way possible like you are going to like create some cool things yeah so positive and up like lifting to watch like you could tell that you you were yourself didn't seem like it was for a camera or didn't seem like you were there to get brand deals or something like even find like you were there because you wanted to find love obviously but it was more like you weren't, like, desperate for it either.

No. Sometimes you feel like people are, like, desperate. They're, like, they'll, like, try to make it just because, like, they're on a show. Whereas, like, you didn't feel like that at all. Like, you felt a genuine connection. And we saw it. Like, that connection was real. So real.

And I think when you asked me go, I was, like, earlier on, invite me on the show and talking about kind of why I went on the show, I think that truly came out in my storyline, if you like, because the reason I went on the show was actually because of a friend of mine, which is hilarious. She got approached to go on the show and she was like, actually, I'm not single. But I have a really cool friend that would probably do well on the show. So I'm going to put her up for it. So she DMed me and was like, look, Ashley, maybe she should think about this because I was so unlucky in love and I thought, hey, let me just like deep dive into like

what this experiment is about. And then when I realized like the whole concept around love being blind and actually stripping away social pressures, your phone going off every 10 minutes with an email on Instagram like, or your friends, you know, wanting to meet up with you or your parents or whoever it is in your life kind of forcing you to have these relationships. I was like, yeah, remove it. Take it away. Give me a wall. Give me someone's voice and let me actually force me to be vulnerable and force me to open up to someone who is actually going to be able to understand Ashley, not the outer surface of Ashley, not my job, not how I dress or how I sit my body language. That's not what I want people to fall in love with. I wanted people to fall in love

with who I am. And that experiment was right for me at that time because I was ready to do all of that. And as you've seen, I just led with my heart. And I was really in it for the intention of, you know, exploring is love blind. Were you not ever scared, though? That's one thing that I would be scared because obviously you know how it is blind and you're going in with all the right intention but like what if you know you're listening to your head but sometimes your head makes bad decisions like yeah i know i shouldn't do that but i still do it so i'd be thinking that you're doing this i don't know it's the weirdest concept guys because like you have nothing else to think about but love l ove four letters that is it actually it forces you to

of think head to toe with your heart, with your gut, just by listening to someone's tone or the type of language they are using or the pauses they make. Just how that makes you feel was what I was falling in love with. And it sounds crazy. And I don't like think everyone wants to buy into that and that's cool. But like for me, that experiment was was magical. I think it's amazing. I just don't think I would be I would be second guessing myself every two seconds. I'd be like I've got a stomach pain, no, my body's telling me something. Yeah, yeah. No, I think you listen to all of that and I think if I did feel those like worrying red flags,

which I did with some of the guys I dated and you didn't get a chance to see all of that. I have a question with the, with the pods. So after you go on the date, if you don't want to see them again, you just say like, I don't want to see that guy again. Yeah, basically you kind of just don't invite them to another day and they might not like you either. so you might not see them ever again. Like I dated some guys on day one that I didn't ever see again.

So, but the guys that you do date and you want to see again, you kind of put them forward to the show and they're like, okay, well, we'll see what they think of you and then it happens or it doesn't. So that's why when you walk in the room, you're like, oh, oh, so you don't know at all.

That's so weird, actually. Like, you're already, you can't see them already and then they're still like, you don't know who's behind. You don't know who's behind. And then you're like, oh my God, I recognize that voice. Don't get this name wrong.

Don't get this name. wrong. Hi, Billy. That would be my thing. Like, I would be like, hi, you. Yeah. Hey, you, Stella. I think that's why I said, knock, knock. And I was trying to get out more of them. Like, who's there? And I was like, oh, he spoke more than just hi. You know, he was trying to, like, leaning to who this was. But obviously, Billy had an accent. So that was quite a easy way of me finding out who he was. When you guys were at the altar, did you ever have a moment where you were, like, second guessing yourself or anything? Or you were at that time when you said yes, you were like, no, this is it? No.

I totally married him for love, and I went fully in for that. And so, no, I had no doubts. I think when you watch it back and you see his face and the music and the way it's kind of put together, it looks like he has a lot of doubts as well. But when I stood at the altar, I looked in his eyes, and his eyes were full of love. And he was kind of like nodding as well, like to me,

like, this is going to be okay, like without saying that. That's how I felt in that moment. moment it was so magical and I was like this is going to be okay he's yeah like whatever his decision was going to be it would have been heartbreaking if it was a no but I was hopeful that you know what you were going to be a team regardless and no one goes into a marriage kind of perfect no I wasn't perfect he wasn't perfect but what we had was foundations and that was enough for me to go do you know what I want to build on this and actually if we could conquer his doubts about my job or whatever, you know, the bumps in the road

that everyone has in a relationship. To be able to come through those events makes you a stronger team, a stronger married couple, and a stronger future. Something about, like, fights and, like, up and down. It's like, yeah, they're not nice to have. But I actually think that you understand the other person so much more

and how they cope with situations and you learn. And you grow together. Yeah. That's the main thing. You want to grow together. Totally. That's your partner. It's a partnership.

And life isn't always fun. No. You know what I mean? Like, we argue with our parents and we move from that. Yeah. And I think what we were really good at, Billy and I actually, was communicating. You saw throughout our journey that as soon as something was an issue, we were like, should we talk about that?

And we just talk about it. And that was something like gold dusted to me in a relationship. I've never been with a partner that's gone, whoa, whoa, well, Ash, like, are you okay today? Should we just talk that through? And so everything we came up against, I felt like I didn't have to hold back like I normally did in a relationship. He gave me that space to be really me. And I thought if we can go into a marriage like that,

we can get through anything. Absolutely, because that's like the foundation of a good marriage, like strong communication and teamwork and teamwork, you know, yeah. So with your job being a flight attendant, you were obviously so passionate about it and you said that in the series you said that you started working from like a young age and you're always a provider. So like obviously your job is like a massive party of her identity.

Did you ever have a moment in this. relationship because there was like a lot of stress put on it like he was putting a lot of pressure on you maybe not stress is the right word but pressure of like that being a problem did you ever find yourself like thinking oh maybe I should stop flying for a bit to try to make it work absolutely not like I've always been a career driven woman as you guys have seen from a young age you know yeah you're exactly right I was always the care of the provider and I love that role like I'm proud of that. I'm proud that I started working, doing the paper round at like 12 years old, you know, and like getting pocket money and going like, yes, I can save up to something now. I've never

relied on a man or anyone actually in my life to pay for things, you know, it's always come from me. When there was this hiccup about the job, it was just like a change of direction in our conversation, I'd say. And I was like, oh, okay, well, you know, I was never going to quit my career at all for a man. Like, I love what I do. However, If we were to like fast forward and get married and have children, it would be hard to fly full time with a family of three or even one. So I was open to exploring the ideas of taking a grounded role within the same company, but to support our marriage and to support him and to support what I wanted.

So yeah, it wasn't all about, oh yes, I'm going to bow down to him and like, you can have all of me, absolutely not. Like there were going to be boundaries in place. But I was all in with this guy. and actually if it was going to strengthen our relationship and as a family in the future, I would have explored another role. Did he ever offer to do the same thing with his job?

Sorry, I know that's a really salty question to ask. Because his, as in his army, going away for three months, you don't have to answer if you don't want to and we'll cut it. But going away for the three months, that's very similar to like a slight, not exactly the same, but like you also travel. I feel like it's worse. Yeah.

Yeah. And so did he ever offer to like, compromise or maybe, I don't know, takes, I don't know how the army works, but like in some sort of other role that would fit you guys. Like you said, like another grounded role. Yeah.

Yeah. I think the difference was, like, I didn't have an issue with his career. Like, I fully was, actually, I was so proud of his career. Like, that was a huge selling point for me that he was in the military. I'd been an army cadet.

I really have a lot of love for that community and that organization. So for me, I was like, I'm ready and willing for you to go. away for three months because I appreciate that I will also have to fly. And then I'll be here waiting for you and we'll have a family at some point. I loved what he did. And I was ready to kind of accept him for his career. And if that meant him travelling for a bit, I'd accept it. I guess in the future, I would have hoped that he would have definitely gone into, I don't know,

recruitment role or whatever it is within the army to kind of support me as well. I don't get why it would be such a big thing. Well, you have to go away for a bit. And then you love each other and And they love their role. You want them to do it. You want them to be passionate and love what they do. Because then when you're together, it's like really special too. I think, like, distance does make the heart grow fonder. Don't get me wrong, it's hard when you're flying at different time zones and you try

and FaceTime and they're probably in bed. But, like, I think if you've got enough love there, then it can work. Then anything is possible. There's a lot of people out there living in different countries, different sides of the world, that are married. And then they move in eventually after years apart. and it works. So I'm in an industry where I have to be very adaptable day to day

because of just what I'm up against. And I think that filters into my love life as well and I'm a very adaptable, resilient person. As long as the love was there, you can conquer anything. You say that you're very adaptable and you give and you give and you give. When you give and you give and you give and you give and you don't get somebody that gives like the same energy to you back, how do you deal with that?

I do the same thing. Like I'll give to my friends. I'll give to a relationship. and when you would do so much for somebody else and they don't even give you something back or like 10% back it's such a kick in the stomach and I've noticed this pattern among women we are such generous nurturers we're so willing to compromise we're so willing to make everything work how is it that the opposite gender can't I've dealt with that with my marriage you've dealt with that with your relationship and your marriage too like how is it that they can't

fill our cups like we fill theirs. I don't think it's necessarily just, sorry. Gender. Yeah, just gender. Like, I think it's like people, some people just don't, can't give it back. But I do think it is a womanly trait to be better naturals. Yeah. For me, this is where I've learned a lot about boundaries.

Boundaries, self-love, self-respects. Philly did give a lot. Like, although you didn't see that, there was a lot of love there. Yeah. And I wouldn't have married someone who wasn't. giving me what I needed and deserved. I think coming out of the show and looking forward to the next relationship I have, I'm very much aware that time is my love language and that I don't have a lot of time.

The time I have, I want to make sure it's given to the right person and myself. Enough of that needs to be for me now because I never used to do that. And I want that back from someone. I want someone's undeniying, is that the word? Undenying attention. Undivided. Undivided. Yeah.

Yeah, someone's undivided attention because that's what I deserve. You know, that's what we deserve. I think I have done a lot of discovery on what happens when you give and they don't. And listening to that person and thinking, okay, why are they not giving? Is it an off day?

Or actually, are they just very into themselves and can they not give? Some people can't. Some people can't give you what you need and deserve. And I think it just comes down to actually thinking, okay, what is good for Ashley? Yeah, not being a fixer is something I've really learned, and it's not down to you to always do that.

Like, they need to do that self-work. Yeah. That is such a powerful statement, because at the end of the day, you can't control other people's actions, and that's actually fine. Because imagine being responsible for how other people are. Yeah. Can't bring a horse to water and make it drink. Yeah.

So on the breakup diet, we always talk about, you know, our versions of closure, because it's different from, like, people to people. What was closure like to you? And have you got it? I went on to the reunion, hoping that I would gain fully closure from this marriage relationship and experiment. But in all honesty, I kind of knew deep down as well. I had a gut feeling that I wasn't going to gain that.

The way it kind of planned out, as you all saw, I don't think I got that from him. However, I got that from myself. Oh, I wouldn't say I got total closure from myself, but I definitely got the start of closure from myself from that reunion and from actually speaking my piece like I actually said out loud what actually deserves and what actually needs and wants and to do that in front of people I didn't know influencers production couples that were obviously happy in love and some obviously not it was a really dynamic environment to be in and I just found this inner strength to kind of start that closure piece and I was really proud of myself for that whole speech and

reunion. It's so powerful actually speaking stuff out. Like you can talk about a breakup in your head so many times and what went wrong. And then when somebody like a friend or a family member would ask you and you say it out loud, the words, then you just like break down a lot of the time. Totally. I actually voice note a lot at the moment because that gives me a bit of time. It's time that I'm actually focusing on Ashley and not anyone else. And when I listened back and I was actually listening back on the train to you guys this morning and I was like, wow, like you hear, your voice, your tone, where your voice cracks, how emotional you are. And I was super emotional back in August. And that journey I've been on is huge. And now I can voice note and look at,

you know, the healing part and the closure part. And I'm every day gaining that bit more closure to this. So when you say your voice note, do you just mean on your phone? You have like the sound recording app. You know, like the sound recording app that we all have downloaded. I just started to like use it. I'm not going to lie. I've never. never use it actually at all. Maybe it worked once. I'm like practicing my briefing. How do I sound? But like I started using it for more this kind of closure, healing, self-discovery piece. And I just talk, talk on my way to work. How was actually feeling today? You know, what can I see? What can I smell? How does my body feel? And then when I felt strong enough,

I'd open that voice note and go, oh my God. So last week I was feeling that. But let me voice note this week and there'll be sometimes a huge difference sometimes not a difference sometimes still feeling in the mud this is such a powerful exercise and i think this is so much more powerful than journaling because you can see the changes between your tone yeah yeah wow it's so good but no we've never heard that before no yeah we always like recommend like the journal guys yeah i think it's quite easy to like not open the voice notes and i'll be honest for a while i didn't want to open the voice because it's like it's painful to relive it again and you've re-lived so much in the last six weeks. It's painful watching myself fall in love. It was painful like it being out there and actually having voices now on

my journey. So, but this is just you and your voice that you're hearing and this is all that matters and we go back to that self-love piece. Like how is actually soul feeling? How is your soul feeling? And I think you can really get that from your voice and you know, you're not looking at yourself. You don't cringe it like it's not like it's a video either. Yeah. Where you're you're like, oh God, like, well, how I look today? My hair is really, but whatever. No, it's just hearing you.

Do you think you pick this up from the pod? Because it sounds like the pod, but it's like a solo pod base. Yeah, but it might be because like there's, like we said, there's no outer layer to anything. It's just your voice and you, yeah, you're falling in love with someone's voice,

but I'm now kind of loving my own. Isn't that? Oh, so love. That is so powerful. I think at the end of the day, like, the only person you need in that pot is you. So love is blood. Yeah.

Yeah. Because I fell in love with yourself. Wow. I have like goosebumps. Seriously. That's and the power of conversation, right? No matter who that's with. And I guess we're focusing on ourselves. Like the power of actually chatting to who you are,

you don't need to get that from someone. You don't need those probing questions always from someone else. Just ask yourself that. And then once you understand, understand yourself, you can then kind of invite others into that space. Do you label them or you just keep the date of it and then you kind of know? Well, it's quite funny because most of my voice notes happen in the car at the moment. So it's like M25. Number one. Or when I'm missing my nan, it's like, yeah, down by the southeast coast. So yeah, do you know what? Are you're in your areas.

You do it by areas. But maybe, but then that always makes me reflectively. You have a flight attendant thing because you're like on the new traveling. Yeah. Different locations. You definitely could label them. And when you feel strong enough to kind of maybe close that chapter, you could label it like discovery, you know, or the day that I broke down, you know, and all of those. And the day when it got better. A day when it got better.

The day when it all made sense, because it does. Yeah. Can I just say throughout your entire journey, I feel like you haven't lost your spark. No. You were still like bright as a diamond at the reunion. And even when you were going through what looks like, hell to any normal person

because what you went through was not normal gosh yeah having to go through your feelings and that trauma in front of an audience of people and you still kept your shine how did you do it yeah I wouldn't have been able to do that like at all no one normal could

I have so much I'm getting quite emotional but I'm so sorry no it's good it's good yeah that's so special that you said that to me girlies um oh gosh and I love that you didn't let anyone one take down your spirit. Wow. You know I love stars. I'm wearing my star today and I've got my

star crystal in my bag because people have always said to me there's just something about you that shines. Like I love to add sparkle to people's lives. I don't know why or really what it is. I just have this power that I'm like, I just want to light people up and I try and light myself up. And I think the reunion, when I watch that back, that was the first episode in the whole series where I did not smile. And so for you to say to me that I'm still shining when I wasn't smiling and wasn't kind of like being like, well, I was positive, I guess. I was positive. But, you know, that energy was an energy shift, I say. That's really admirable if you're saying, I'm, I'm taken back by that and thank you for like being really honest that you still saw that. There's worse people

off than me in the world. There's people that have got it harder. Yeah. That doesn't make it like you should always be positive because it's okay to not be okay. but there is always like a little bit of like a fire trying to lie inside me. I've always got a little spark because, yeah, I'm, I realize that the world is a tough place to be in and there are people worse off than me. And I'm very lucky to be able to sit here today with you guys to be able to breathe and to be able to communicate and be healthy and have a family and loved ones around me. And a divorce, yeah, is tough, but it's part of me now, right?

and I'm proud of it like divorce sister right it just adds another layer to my journey to who I am it makes it a bit more interesting and I've just gained so much life experience from this experiment that has taught me yeah so much about who I am and I just I invite that in like I invite the bad in because I'm like this must be a reason I'm meant to feel sad or I'm meant to go for a divorce or he's meant to break my heart. And I'm like, okay, don't get me wrong. It's hard at the start. But once you reflect and sit on it and process it, there's always a reason for something to happen in your life. And the reason will show itself eventually. And when it does, it will make sense. And it will make you a stronger human being and a better person for it. And that's probably how I look at life, striving to to take on the learnings and be better and help others. Honestly, you are meant to be where you are right now. I'm telling you, Ashley, like, even just being in this room with us, like, You were meant to find someone like us.

You were meant to find someone like me being like, hey, this is how a no-fault divorce works. Like, this is the logistics. Like, yeah, I do believe that for everyone. Yeah. And honestly, as the days go by, like, you are going to build the greatest community. You're going to build, like, the people that I come to you are going to be so much better aligned to you. And if you're still looking for the one, like, that person's going to be the best version of themselves for you. because you now have developed the best version of yourself.

Yeah, if I can just inspire others or help others be seen, whether that have a voice or just have a change of mindset, around something that's really, you know, knocking them down. I'm all for that. I'm all for sparkling and bringing that energy and positivity to people's lives. You definitely did. You can see that, though, in the show as well. Thanks, guys.

My heart feels really warm, you know, and we talked about kind of how do we feel like. My heart feels really open with you guys. Well, thank you so much for letting us. Yeah. Okay, let's like lighten the mood up a bit. Let's play a game of this or that, Ashley Berry Edition. Love in the pods again or love in real life?

Love in real life, because that's what I'm ready for now, you know. Yay. I've had my pod journey. It was, it was what it was. It was amazing. But now, let's embrace it in the real world. Put all that learning into place. Also, you still have solo pod with the voice.

Oh, yeah. I basically still got the pot in my garden on my phone. Eat the cake or I'll stick to a meal plan. Eat the cake. Can I have the whole cake? Yes. And the crumbs. Yeah, I love cake.

You know me, girls. Would you rather do a solo trip or a girl's night out post-breakup? Right now I've done so much solo work. So I'm ready for a girl's night out. Let's go. Yeah. I'm like, let's go, girls. Yeah.

I'm just ready to let my hair down a little bit. Okay. So just to end the episode, what is one piece of advice you'd like to give to our listeners going through a breakup? Oh, okay. There's so much. I could write a book. We've talked a lot about kind of closure today to all of those people out there that are kind of going through breakups where I've been in your shoes where I've expected closure to come from the other person and us to be able to like end it and then you get closure from that. But that's not reality. unfortunately sometimes as hard as it is accept it respect it and put your best foot forward you can find it within and I'm here for that I'm here to help you this episode's gonna move a lot of people and their perspectives on what they think a closure is so I always thought like because he dumped me I was like what's wrong with Ashley what did I do am I too much like you kind of suddenly really go into yourself and find out what's wrong but actually like if you reverse that mindset and think about all the right things that you gave in that relationship, they just weren't the right person, they weren't the right love. Yeah.

Then you can move forward. We all want that pot of gold at the end of a rainbow. And I think sometimes... That pot of gold is you. That pot of gold is you. And you've just got to realise that. And it's hard when we're going for a breakup. But I promise you, keep persevering at it and you will get there.

You know,