The Break-Up Diet - Talia Storm Gets Real: “I Talk a Big Game… But I’m a Lover Girl”

Episode Date: June 25, 2025

What happens when the baddie facade breaks down? Singer-songwriter Talia Storm joins us for a disarmingly honest conversation about the gap between her public persona and private desires. Known for he...r empowering anthems and unapologetic attitude, Talia reveals the vulnerable reality behind her confident image—she's actually yearning for genuine connection."I talk a big game," Talia admits, "but when I actually like someone, that wall of intimidation just shatters." This confession sparks a fascinating exploration of why so many of us hide our true desires behind carefully constructed personas. Having experienced her first serious relationship at 22 after prioritizing her career from age 13, Talia's journey mirrors many ambitious women who delay romantic development only to find themselves emotionally unprepared when heartbreak eventually arrives.The episode delves into the contradictions of modern dating culture, where appearing invested is considered weakness and detachment is rewarded—particularly on social media. "The price you're paying to be viral is expensed by you not having human experience anymore," Talia observes, highlighting how performative relationships have trained a generation to value perception over substance. Her "Baddie Academy" tips provide practical wisdom for maintaining confidence while gradually allowing vulnerability, striking that delicate balance between strength and openness.Perhaps most refreshing is Talia's call for normalizing emotional investment: "It's cool to care, it's cool to try." This simple yet radical statement challenges years of cultural conditioning that equates caring deeply with weakness. Her upcoming single "Ready for Love" represents this evolution, embracing vulnerability rather than running from it. As she puts it, "Nonchalant is dead"—signaling a cultural shift toward valuing genuine connection over strategic indifference.Ready to stop pretending you don't care? Listen now, and join the conversation about embracing your authentic desires without apology. Share your thoughts with us on social media, and don't forget to subscribe for more raw, unfiltered discussions about modern relationships.Send us a textInstagram:@the_breakup_dietTikTok:@thebreakupdietEmail: thebreakupdietpodcast@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to another episode of The Breakup Diet. Today we have a really, really sexy guest. And I've kind of promised that I won't flirt with them, but she has the most amazing tits. She's covered it up though, but welcome to the episode, Talia. Hi guys. I am so excited to be on the pod.
Starting point is 00:00:21 We're so excited to have you. Like, I'm like starstruck kind of. I'm starstruck, kind of. I'm starstruck, guys. This is big. And the fact that they have already got me a drink is kind of iconic. Because I'm trying to get you to stay after. I hear that. I feel that.
Starting point is 00:00:37 But guys, it's an honor. Thank you for having me. No, thank you for coming on. Can we have a little bit more of an intro? So you're Talia. Talia Storm, baby. Hey guys, I'm for coming on. Can we have a little bit more of an intro? So you're Talia? Talia Storm, baby! Hey guys, I'm Talia Storm. I'm a singer-songwriter, I'm a host, I'm an actress, I'm a... I'm
Starting point is 00:00:53 a all of it. I'm a all of the entertainments. I'm sure you've seen her, well, her single Fuck Boy. Yes. You in, what, you a truck boy? Yeah, are you a garbage truck boy? No, that's low key one of my favorite songs of my new era, which we'll talk about later. But the best part is really that we call it a bin here and it's fully getting rinsed for me saying garbage truck boy. But I'm like, you know what? Yeah, I wrote that in LA and what?
Starting point is 00:01:18 What about it? So you've had a lot of breakups? Yeah, I mean, my whole life is just one breakup and it got to the point where my mum actually phoned me yesterday and she was like, okay Talia, we have to rebrand. Let's switch it up. We've been holding back way too much. Welcome to the breakup diet. Breakup from what?
Starting point is 00:01:43 Breakup from everything! I scared them all away. No, breakup is the brand. Let's be honest, it is the brand. It's the entire brand. And I'm like, mom, my TikToks are built on the fact that I tell these men to fuck off and I get a new one. Like, but I, my mom was like, but you don't though.
Starting point is 00:02:00 You don't get a new one. You cry over the same man for like three years. And I'm like, yeah, but baby it's the brand. And no one knows that mom. Shut up! No one needs to know that. I know, you know I was actually thinking the other day. I started this brand in like 2021.
Starting point is 00:02:13 I released a song called Broken and it literally was about getting your heart broken. But I was like young, 2021, what are we like, I was literally 22. And I was telling my life. And then I had my first ever like real like Situationship slash boyfriend slash whatever this man broke my heart and then he ruined it for me Cuz suddenly he was like you're making tick tocks about me like all this shit And I'm like I want to go back and hug a little me cuz I'm like that man first of all, you know It's fine. Well, that's been your brand
Starting point is 00:02:39 He signed up to this before you even broke your heart and he knew that was your brand. So, you know what nowadays? I'm like, I'm gonna post whatever the fuck I want and I don't care what anyone thinks. Yeah, he even broke your heart and he knew that was your brand. So you know what? Nowadays I'm like, I'm going to post whatever the fuck I want and I don't care what anyone thinks. Fair. He was just jealous probably. He wanted to like dim your light honestly. That's exactly what he did do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:57 And I think that's the sad part nowadays where we're all baddies and when we eventually let down that wall and show somebody our vulnerable side, when they almost like hold the baddie against you once you've already broken down the wall is what really hurts my feelings. I'm like, wow, I've really stripped that baddie, you've seen vulnerable, and then you're gonna sag me off for being baddie. You like me because of the baddie.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Yeah. But you met me because I was at the club. Do you know what I mean? And I'm like, no, I've just shown you the other side of me that nobody gets to see. This is a luxury. This is a prime luxury. Then you're going to turn around and be like, hmm. It just makes you wonder, like, can men actually handle multifaceted women? No, I don't think they can. No. I live with my brother at the moment. My brother is 20 and... Single?
Starting point is 00:03:41 Yeah. And... It was too young, Y was like single. Ready! He's like 6 foot 4, he gets all these older women and I'll be out with them and all these 30 year old women come up to him and I'm like, I'm not joking, I'm there and I'm almost like, babe I wanna pull you for a chat, like this man ain't it, like this man is not it. But I'm different, Talia. I am dead. My mum's gonna watch this. This is great. Sorry, mum, I promise I'm a good girl. I'm one of the good ones.
Starting point is 00:04:15 You actually are. That's a funny thing. I think you talk a big game. You talk a big game, but your action is not there. Oh, yeah, there is no action. There is something in this because I talk a big game, but we had a little call before this and both girls saw me crack on depression. Now this is something that happens to me when I actually like someone. That wall of like baddie intimidation, like you really gonna mess with me?
Starting point is 00:04:42 It just shatters. Like, I'm like what? But Talia Storm would be so disappointed. It's because we're nothing but girls at the end of the day. You know what? We just want to be loved. I think it is all, it's all the whole thing of fake it till you make it. But like also your persona, like you can be that girl 90% of the time, but there's still you could be another version, another 10%. That's fine. I saw a quote yesterday that said it can take you up to eight years to get over a heartbreak.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Don't say that. No, no we know that. We know that we know that from Paige of just like it takes six months you can live in shock. Six weeks to live in shock but it's the comparison that makes you think about them for nine years, eight years. So that's one thing we're not going to do compare. It's bloody hard. Is that something you think about them for nine years, eight years. So that's one thing we're not gonna do, compare. Is that something you do? What to like the new bitch that's replaced me?
Starting point is 00:05:33 That or like your ex-boy, next boy? That was a good lyric. That was really good. Use it. Yeah. Put me on the feature. No, I'm very like, well take me a good two years to get over you. But the good thing is, because I'm a Scorpio, I do really well from rising from the ashes
Starting point is 00:05:53 and as cringe as that sounds, if something really breaks me down and knocks me to the floor like this said heartbreak that I'm only lowkey over now, boom, I'm going to prove you so wrong. I'm going to make sure I am so out of your league by the time I'm done. I'm going to be better. I'm going low-key over it now. Like boom, I'm gonna prove you so wrong. I'm gonna make sure I am so out of your league by the time I'm done. I'm gonna be better. I'm gonna focus inwards. Like I don't, I'm not one of those girls that's gonna go to the club and just like find any next man. I'm just gonna make sure that like my money is right. My jobs are right. Like I took my job in Scotland like when I was like peak heartbreak because I was like you know what I'm gonna show you. I'm gonna be on the radio interviewing Kylie Minogue. I'm gonna be living my life.
Starting point is 00:06:26 I'm gonna be bossing up. And I feel like those moments are almost really good for me, but I definitely don't wanna do it again. I'm getting older now. Like we don't, I can't, I can't be bothered. So that heartbreak, can you tell us a bit more about it? Like what happened? Well, so my friends say that I am quite immature
Starting point is 00:06:44 when it comes to relationships and love because I literally have no experience. Because I've been an artist, a singer, in the public eye since 13, I was so focused on being a musician, being a singer, like making money and just being a business. I'm a businesswoman. So actually I never had like a teen love and I never had a teen heartbreak. And even by the time I was 21, like, I wasn't even going on dates. I wasn't even like kissing boys. Not everyone would be like, oh, I don't do dates. But actually,
Starting point is 00:07:13 it was just because I was terrified. I was now 22. I'd never had a relationship. I'd never had a boy. Like I was the, like I was, I was like the holy Mary to all my friends. And I'm like, God, like now I'm actually terrified because I'm 22 and I have zero experience. What am I going to do? This is exactly us two a team. Is it? Yeah. Okay, good.
Starting point is 00:07:33 My first relationship, 22, yours as well, right? 23. First relationship. Okay, good. First boyfriend. Yeah, exactly. Same as me. So I'm at this age and I'm like, this is wild because I love being in control and I love being, having the power
Starting point is 00:07:47 and you only have the power through experience and suddenly I have zero experience. The only thing I have on me is like, I realized early on that the more I can obscure guys and intimidate them, the more they like you. So I played on that. I played on the bad day. I played on that. I don't want you, you know, like I was very good at that. So by the time I was like, I did, I met this guy and I
Starting point is 00:08:05 like really liked him. I was like, Whoa, like I've not even felt these feelings ever. And I was this man anything special? No, it's just because I'd never experienced these men. Never all right. But suddenly I was like slowly but surely putting my guard down, like really getting to know someone and being vulnerable. And that just felt so special to me. And I realized really quickly that I am a lover girl. Like I am like Drake's a Scorpio. So maybe like maybe I am him. He talks a big game, but at the end of the day, he's just a lover guy. Do you know what I mean? Like all he wants to do is just curl on a bed and like sing heartbreak songs like Slay, Relatable. So yeah, I just really put my guard down, my wall down, I really felt like he knew me,
Starting point is 00:08:46 a version of me that nobody else knew. That's easy, nice that you can put your wall down, so like not easily, but you were able to, because I actually found that really hard, being 23 and then having like a first relationship. Yeah. I found it quite hard to let somebody in. Yeah, well, there's also something in that,
Starting point is 00:09:03 because I've realized even recently at 26 now when I'm only just like starting to speak to someone again, that I almost self sabotage it and try and clarify vulnerable moments with like a, oh yeah, but X, Y, and Z as if I don't care. Because I've noticed that I think maybe you've just got, I've just got to start going on dates personally, but that frightens me so much, being vulnerable with someone again and then showing them the purest version of yourself and them still being like, yeah, but you're not right for me. That's crazy in that moment, in that heartbreak when you're like, wait, I don't understand,
Starting point is 00:09:38 I've literally shown you the best version of me. You are on such a pedestal and you don't want me. But you have to experience it. you have to go through it. Honestly, my advice would be to anyone younger, go through it sooner the better. 100%. I wish I went through mine when I was a teenager. Correct, correct. Yeah, I wish I did too.
Starting point is 00:09:56 I just didn't have any options. You know what I mean? I definitely wanted that. Because the first heartbreak, if you can just get that done, the sooner the better. Correct. Yeah. So I lost like mad weight. I was like walking every day. I just couldn't. That's the breakup diet. You lose your appetite. I know I lost my appetite. It was crazy. It's not good. But like, what is that? Like, actually, what is that? Like, it's actually
Starting point is 00:10:18 not good when you think about it. Because like, what you're not hungry because you're so sad and depressed. That's what it is. But like is but like why like how can somebody have that power really to not want to eat it's not fair I think we all underestimate energy as a whole and this is something I'm trying to really tap back into because I used to be super spiritual and super like everything's a sign and like gratitude whereas I have fallen out of it and I think you know being in London, a big city, it's easy to kind of get carried away but actually you don't need another quote on Instagram to tell you the more in tune with yourself the better your life is because all of us are living in escapism like the same way I'm like come on girls let's go get some margaritas like Like, do you want me to do some, it's all an escape from feeling that things are meant to feel.
Starting point is 00:11:05 So my, like, my challenge to myself is just like, feel the things, be vulnerable, tell the guy you like him, like say that cringey thing, like do too much, you know? And I think this comes with being loud, bubbly people, which we both, all of us are, that actually like that's okay, instead of trying to like dim it or like use sarcasm to like play as if it's all just a joke like I do that like I've lost count of my guys I go oh my god you're so funny I'm like oh my god low key in my head that's just a coping mechanism for like you guys thinking I'm cool and not too much but I'm actually just a lot I'm a lot oh yeah oh yeah and I'm not ashamed to admit it like so yeah I think I think that
Starting point is 00:11:44 comes with age though just being like you know what I'm okay with who admit it. Like, so yeah, I think I think that comes with age though, just being like, you know what? I'm okay with who I am. I think as you get older, you get more sure of yourself for sure. Oh, and it's the best thing ever. Like I'm turning 30 this year and my sense of identity is at its like, best. Like no one can tell me shit otherwise. Yeah, like the confidence and just my boundaries.
Starting point is 00:12:09 No one can cross that shit anymore. And my pickiness as well. Like I've developed standards at this big old age, which just sucks, but like you got there in the end. Do you think that leaves you more lonely though? I'm not lonely. I'm definitely alone and it's like harder for me to open up but I'm definitely not lonely. I'm more fulfilled with like with everything. I've got all these
Starting point is 00:12:32 amazing friends, I keep meeting like new friends like yourself, like I keep getting gravitated towards people that I have stuff in common with, which is why you and I clicked immediately. I'm finding my soul mates, mates not mate anymore, which is really nice. Those are nice. You are racking off some good quotes. I'm listening to you like, whoa, inspirational. Yeah, well, that's what we want to tell our listeners here. Life doesn't end after the heartbreak,
Starting point is 00:13:06 after you've been broken down, after being vulnerable with someone. I'll never forget one of my friends being like to me, you know one day it does just go away because everyone's heartbreak is this feeling in your stomach that you have, until you have heartbreak, you cannot even fathom that that experience exists. And you're just walking around with this feeling that's not in your stomach, that's like, what is this? Like you can't eat, you can't, nothing. And you're just so heavy and you're so fatigued. And then one day it does just lift and you're okay.
Starting point is 00:13:35 And then you never, you know, you don't even care about it soaking his Instagram again. And that moment is such a powerful moment. You're like, wow, I actually don't care. Do you have any go-tos when you are going through a heartbreak now? Like, do you know, okay, I need to cry for this many days or I need to hit the gym or I need to... What's your immediate coping mechanism?
Starting point is 00:13:54 So I put into ChatGPT the other day, like, why am I so scared now for being vulnerable? What did she say? Oh, she was brilliant. ChatGPT is incredible. I like that as a girl. Only a woman would be that helpful. Chad GPT could never be a man. He would gatekeep the information, gaslight us. Also how organized and stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Yeah, a man could never. Bullet point lists, I'm like, serve it to me. And when you refer her to as babe, she babes you back. Yeah. So what did she say to you? She was brilliant. She was like, it's literally, like what I've like, serve it to me. And when you refer her to as babe, she babes you back. Yeah. Yeah. So what did she say to you? She was brilliant. She was like, it's literally like what I've said. She said you're scared of being your true version of yourself
Starting point is 00:14:35 because you're scared of getting hurt. And you don't want to go deep because the deeper you go, the more hurt you're going to be. But then I saw this thing on Instagram and it was like this old man and he was like, his wife passed away and he said his whole life, he just lived, he lived stable, you know, never got too happy, never got too sad because he just didn't want to be sad. And then he said, there's one piece of advice I could give to any young person, it's feel the feelings because I don't care how low you go after the high, but the high is so
Starting point is 00:15:01 worth it. And if I could get my wife back, I would appreciate those moments with her and those highs 10 times more than just playing it simple. So that's something I'm really trying to work on. Like if I really like someone now and I'm really trying to give time to people, and I really mean like, like especially guys, like I've low key, I've gone on the first few dates with someone and like, yeah, I like them, but this is low key the first time I've given anyone a chance since my heartbreak in 2022. That's insane. Like, I just don't give people time. Like, I'm just, I'm using my career as a distraction. Hello, you know, it's like, that's a coping mechanism. But
Starting point is 00:15:36 actually, I do just want to be a girl. I do want to be my feminine energy. I want to be a baddie. I want to, you know, I want to be in the studio, I want to be writing these songs. And then I want to go home and just be a girl. I want to just get my forehead kisses. Yeah. I do miss that. I just want to cuddle you. I don't want to have to come here and put on a show. And I think that when you are being a full-time baddie out and about and posting that on TikTok, you attract the worst type of men, guys that think that you want humbled and the guys who come up to me and they're so rude and yeah, and just say really mean things. And I'm like, Oh my goodness, you think this is sexy right now? You think this is going to turn me on? It's actually not. Like I am not that person. I want to be a girl. I want to be in my feminine.
Starting point is 00:16:16 I do not want to be in my masculine energy, but I don't my, and I say this, I don't blame a man nowadays because I do think they're very confused, even living with my brother. We're giving off these signals, we're on these podcasts going, I'm a baddie, fuck him, listen to my songs, you know, fuck these fuckboys. So then they're like, okay, maybe they wanna be treated with this masculine energy of like, you know what? Cool, you're a baddie, but actually that's a lie
Starting point is 00:16:40 because I don't wanna be that. That's just my coping mechanism. That's our generation's coping mechanism. I want you to be like, okay, cool, come around, let's cuddle and watch a movie. I think it's because the most popular people on like reality TV and all this sort of thing are like the men that like don't treat women that well. Toxicity sells. Toxicity is what goes viral at the end of the day. I'm sorry, like, do you have, like, love-a-girl stuff popping off on your TikTok? No, it's like you being a badass, like, cussing off all the men, like...
Starting point is 00:17:10 But that's why it's confusing for, like, all the men and stuff, because, and also women, to be honest, because you think also you might want this, like, type of guy or type of woman, and then it's like you don't want that at all. Like, you just want the forehead kisses. Or even just, like, love-a-girls, it's like a bit cringe now to like be anti nonchalant and
Starting point is 00:17:29 actually feel like love and embrace like that excitement of new love romance again. It sucks. Like the price you're paying to be viral is expensed by you not having human experience anymore. I have arrived recently at this feeling of like, you know, am I really being authentic? And I go into my DMs, there'll be loads of young girls messaging me like, Talia, like this has happened, what do you think?
Starting point is 00:17:56 And then I'm like, you know what? I have arrived here for a reason. Like I, from now on, I'm gonna be more honest. Like I am ready for love. I am ready to be vulnerable. I am ready to be like, you what this is how I feel and if you think that's cringe or if you think that's too much then that's okay and I'm okay with that but we don't have to pretend this is a thing and walk away I
Starting point is 00:18:15 think that's the version of myself that I'm excited to go forward with you know instead of actually pretending that being a baddie and telling men to piss off every five minutes and going viral and getting millions of views for just, you know, being rude to men. Like, actually, I don't want to be rude. I don't. I want to cuddle. Does this mean your music, are we steering towards a lover girl era? Yes! Yes! Because I'm gaslighting myself that I am her right now. Because I really just, I just want to, I honestly, I just want to be, I have a boyfriend. I want to have a boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:18:54 And that's the first time in my life I've ever said that. I have never wanted a boyfriend. I've never wanted like cute couple-y stuff. Maybe it comes with eight. Like I am actually like, I don't want all these blue ticks in my DMs. I used to think that was so cool. When I go out with my friends and all these guys
Starting point is 00:19:10 would just be trying to finesse me, and I used to take it as such a compliment. Oh my god, I dare you, I'd be so good at it. The ruder you are to them, cool, you got them. And I always used to say men are so easy, but men are so easy when you don't care. Yes! The moment you care, the moment you care care you're done out here on these streets.
Starting point is 00:19:29 I was thinking just then like, shit, are they easy? Like I haven't got that reaction. No, you just gotta be like either super, super like over the top flirtatious or... I think people pretend that they don't care and then they ghost them and they're actually the ones that you're hung up on for the next six months. You know what I mean? Like as in I think is a facade, Loki. It's cool to care. Can we normalize that?
Starting point is 00:19:55 I want that to be the basis of this entire conversation. It's cool to care. It's cool to try. You know, even in career, even in, you know, whether you're in a podcast, whether you're a musician, whether you're an artist, nowadays it's like archive your Instagram, have three posts when your song pops off. So it's like you were that overnight sensation. Why is it uncool that I've been going since I was 13? Why is that uncool? Do you know the courage it takes for anyone to start something and go when no one's watching?
Starting point is 00:20:19 We've all seen the video of Chappell Rhone performing in front of two people and I was only like two years ago. Why is it so uncool until you've made it? It's because the come up is cringe. It shouldn't be. The come up is what makes it exciting. Yeah. And that's something that I really want to do more of this year. Be so grateful for the journey, for the experiences, for the living now, instead of so focusing on that angle, you know? Cause you know what? Every person that's ever made it always talks to me
Starting point is 00:20:48 and they're like, you know what? You're gonna get there, you're gonna be so disappointed about like the top. And I'm like, okay, fine, crazy. But like also they were saying that from a place of like, you know, don't beat yourself up, you know? Yeah, and enjoy the ride. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Okay, so in your dating era, how are you going to go about being like this new lover girl, but also still be a baddie? Because let's like not forget, you are one of the OG baddies in the UK. Like you still got to be you. Like we love you for you being a baddie. Yep. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:20 So baddie academy starts straight away with being, I want to be a lover girl, but the game is still a game. You're still showing up as a baddie, okay? Yes, when we get there eventually, date three, four, five, we can show that vulnerability, but you still have to make this man nervous. So that first date is very important. Now my mom was very strict to me when I was young. She was like, basically, if you sleep with a man,
Starting point is 00:21:43 you're dead meat. Now, that sleep with a man, you dead meat. Now, that might sound... No, it's true. That might sound, you know, harsh. And that might sound like, yeah, but if I want to, female empowerment, if I want to, okay, cool. But men are physically built different. Women want connection. Men want to conquer, okay?
Starting point is 00:22:01 So if they conquer you and you're looking for connection, you one plus one don't make four you know so we need to accept that these this is physical science This is literally chemistry. Okay. They've got their vast depressin. We need to make them nervous We need to make them scared and we make them a wee bit stressed whereas We just want a forehead kiss we have to long this out you know now the argument is the tick tock comment might go You know what? But you know if you sleep on the first day or or maybe you wait till the 9th, and he wanted to leave you and he get what he wants, he's gonna leave you anyway. Okay, cool, but then at least you might be able to make a wee bit clearer decision of, should I want
Starting point is 00:22:38 to do this for me, knowing the fact that if he leaves me after date 9, I got what I wanted, that's female empowerment, cool, because you wanted do, but don't do it thinking that he's going to fall in love with me. Cause I'm going to have the best night of his life. And I'm going to, you know, stare into his eyes and I'm going to do all of the, all of the, all of this, you know? No. So long game, scare him a bit baddie be authentic and have a drink for sure. How do you scare him? Like my personality is scary enough, luckily, but how do I take it to the next level? I think humour. Sorry, I couldn't help myself but laugh at you saying my personality is scary enough.
Starting point is 00:23:15 I'm scary as well. I'll never forget this guy. I was like obsessed. It's like you're really intimidating. And I was like, that's hot. The best compliment ever is for a man to be a little bit scared of you. So it's very simple to be intimidating for the for the girlies out there who don't know how to be intimidating. I mean, my sister is not intimidating.
Starting point is 00:23:32 And I try to teach her every day. Okay, lover to pieces. She's a Pisces emotional queen, but like, we need intimidation to get these men eye contact. Do you understand the power of eye contact knife? But let's have a trial. You're looking and it's like, we could be looking away right now. You're in love with me already, I can feel it. You get me. Like this is crazy now, like look away. Like why are you not looking away? Like we all just looked away. You're not allowed to look away. You're not even allowed to do
Starting point is 00:23:57 that side glance because it's like, what is she thinking? Wow, she's really in this. Now in a world of nobody being in anything, we're on our phones, we're getting a FaceTime call, we're texting X, Y, Z, when you're actually in a moment, do you know how crazy that is? Because none of us are in anything, nothing exists, nothing means anything. So giving a man 100% of your time on a first date,
Starting point is 00:24:17 on a second date, do not look at your phone, do not walk into that restaurant on your phone looking down because you're looking a wee bit nervous, you know, oh God, where is he? No, your phone's in that pocket, you're a baddie. You're pretending, you're faking it till you make it. Your shoulders are back, you're walking in there. Cool, you can't find him, doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Not your problem, you're looking around, you know the entire room's looking at you. Or he'll be there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're looking around that restaurant, cool, you see him, then you walk over. You do not, whatever you do, let's see this whole, I'm on my phone,
Starting point is 00:24:43 do do do do, I'm nervous, no. They can feel that, they can sense that, I'm not my phone, I'm nervous. No, they can feel that. They can sense that. I don't care. This isn't my first date. You need to impress me. I'm giving you my time. Boom.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Now this is just part one of Baddie Academy because the end goal is being vulnerable, being emotional, bringing down that wall. But do not catch yourself on and thinking that you show up as an emotional wreck. Way too much for a man. Men are very black and white. They just need to they just one thing at a time Okay, like they are quite like black and white aren't they? They're just like Like food like sex like this. They like someone that's nice and looks good. They don't want to be hassled They don't want a headache, you know, but also
Starting point is 00:25:23 I'll give them a headache if they deserve it. If you want a man to fall in love with you, you need to spite the vassal precedent. That can only be done through stress and giving the man a headache. So it's a very fine line of why many people get it wrong. Baddie. Baddie, for sure. One other thing that I've noticed, if you stare at them intensely for 30 seconds before kissing, the deal is sealed.
Starting point is 00:25:45 No, like. I really do think it is eye contact, you know. For sure. Everything that you do, like when you like even reach out to touch them, stare. Yeah, stare. It's a lot. And I think you can tell a man's authenticity
Starting point is 00:26:01 by eye contact because even a man is- If he looks away, I'm sorry, you're a bitch to me. Are you that nervous? But sometimes you feel guilty right now. You've got something else going on. You've got a girlfriend. You might even have a boyfriend. Like you're, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:26:15 I see where those eyes are going. You can feel that energy, you know? So energy's a big part of it. And that's why at the end of the day, like we kid ourselves on, like at the end of the day, like we kid ourselves on, like at the end of the day, every single person on this planet is just looking for love. Like we need to stop pretending we're not, we need to actually own it and be like, you know what, we actually all are because there's no better feeling in this world than actually being
Starting point is 00:26:35 in love. Actually be like, oh my goodness, I'm excited to tell my friend, I'm excited to like go and call up to my best friend in the world. That's iconic. Humans are not meant to be alone, we're meant to be in pairs, in a group, in a village, like... I know. It's bullshit, I hate this new era, like... Are you not scared now though? Because you said you had the bad heartbreak. No, well I am scared, and I didn't realise I was scared until recently, because I was
Starting point is 00:27:02 only recently, like, crushing on someone. And that's all I'm gonna title it. Okay, so I'm crushing on someone. I'm spending more and more time and I'm like, I'm a robot, like, I'm like, he'll tell me things and I'm there listening and I'm like, I'm still putting on this front of like, I'm emotionless and I'm so cool and nonchalant and I'm like, I am the furthest thing from nonchalant. I'm like, I have known this guy for so long and I'm like wow I really like you and I go home and think about you and here I am pretending that I really just don't care. Are you thinking about him right now? I'm always thinking about him! I'm always thinking about him! But that's crazy but that's
Starting point is 00:27:37 a me problem. This is nothing to do with him, it's fully me because I just need to accept that like it's okay to feel things and it's okay to get your heart broken, it's okay for things to not work out. 100%. But I think nowadays it's all like, we have this whole victim mentality, it's my fault, it's my, I shouldn't have given them my time. You know what?
Starting point is 00:27:54 Shit happens. Move on. It's hard not to think like that though. Even if you get aired or somebody, you're even texting them on a, to be fair, even if you're texting them on a dating app, and then they suddenly just not reply to you, you automatically think like, Oh, well I would.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Do you know what I really recommend? Not doing too much small talk with the guy. Oh yeah. It's straight to a date. I don't, but even like after you guys are already seeing each other, I don't really do small talk unless there's like a, you know, inside joke or something. You already done something important. You were checking in how the thing went, you know, inside joke or something. Or at least on something important, you were checking in how the thing went, you know?
Starting point is 00:28:27 But I don't think this all like, hey, beautiful, good morning. I think that's very 2005. Like we've all got social media, we're already all online. That worked when we were not all online. We're already all online, let's meet in person. Like when are we seeing each other?
Starting point is 00:28:40 I think that's really when you should be chatting. Cause it's fake news. Like on dating apps, by the third message, if the guy hasn't asked me out, I'm like uninterested. Oh, correct, correct. Because you're not my type. But the only thing is why I do stand by my long game is because if it's really easy to get a man like almost too easy, where he's doing a wee bit too much for you, it's very easy for the next girl to take him from you. Whereas I know that if this is taking me a good six months to get this close with this man and break his walls down too, it's going to take the next bitch six months to steal
Starting point is 00:29:13 him from me. Now I said this to my mom. I said this to my mom. She went nuts. She was like, what do you mean steal him from you? If he's meant for you, nobody can steal him from you. Like my mom is like iconic. She met my dad and within seven weeks they were engaged. Oh my god. And they've been together what 28 years now. They're iconic
Starting point is 00:29:28 soulmates. But like she's very kind of like love at first sight. But I'm not I'm like, we need to play this long game times are different now like unlimited baddies on this phone right now like how can you blame a man. So honestly, drag out as long as you can and become friends. Become best friends like share your stories. Like I'm not asking to be soft, pain, vulnerable, emotional which I'm working on, but like. So you think men and women can be friends? No, they can't, but my end goal is if.
Starting point is 00:29:56 But surely everybody knows that though. Like as in like. No, no, no, like the point is. No, I guess the end goal, yeah. Obviously you end up switching, but surely they kind of know that too. Like when you're starting off, they're like, Ooh, she likes me. So it ruins it. I have this one friend. Okay. And this is probably within the last like five
Starting point is 00:30:15 years, this I actually, he actually came right to my house in January. Now this is crazy because I look, he fancied him when I met, but I find out really quickly that he has all these like girlfriends and that's a massive red flag to me. Cause I'm like, oh my god, you love the fact that you have like 10 girls who low key are telling their friends, I'm going to marry him one day, okay? And I said this to him, I was like, you do know that every single one of those women who call and FaceTime you all the time are in love with you and do think you're going to be the end result when they're done with all their fuckboys.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Crazy, right? He was like, no, you're crazy, like men and women can be friends. I'm like, no, everybody knows they cannot, right? And I slowly realized that he was trying to add me to that list of the friends. And I'm like, oh my goodness, you just want to have all of us in the back burner until you're low-key ready, because you're not ready. You've got a lot of work to do on yourself, and I can see that. And he was a Scorpio too, I'm a Scorpio, and it's kind of iconic.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Anyway, so I saw him a year later. And I had this newio, and it was kind of iconic. Anyway, so I saw him like a year later. He had this new girlfriend and I was like, well, this is crazy. Like, didn't he post from Valentine's Day? I'm like thinking like, oh my goodness. And you still got all these other girls. If I have a man and we're a girlfriend boyfriend, if you think for a minute he's FaceTiming one other girl.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Like, bye. If you think that's crazy, then you're lying to yourself because you obviously don't like me that much. So when a guy ever gives you grief about, what do you mean I can't have all these friends, you ain't the one honey. Yeah. You ain't the one. And that's how you uphold your boundaries.
Starting point is 00:31:34 So like with all your songs and like your kind of social media, your brand, right? You're all like, you know, baddie, fuck man, all this type of thing. But is that like, you said earlier baddie, fuck man, all this type of thing. Yeah. But is that like you said earlier wasn't really you now? What is you now? I was definitely running from how I really felt because as a Scorpio, my feelings are a lot. I have decided that I am going to be that obsessive, possessive girlfriend when I get there one day.
Starting point is 00:32:01 And that is OK. And as my mom says, it's a top for every bottle but there is! We all have that someone who's gonna be okay with your level of cringe, psycho, whatever it is. My new era, I'm gonna be embracing having feelings and owning the fact that I am ready to fall in love and I am ready for love and on that note, my next single is called Ready for Love. Which is looking scary because I'm like, oh my god I'm like telling the world I'm a lover girl. Yeah I am. I am.
Starting point is 00:32:30 That's nice though, you're putting it out there. Yeah, just in time for Hot Girl Summer. Let's change the narrative. Fuck being baddies in the summer, let's be lover girls this summer. Correct, baddies have feelings. Last year was all about Set Your Girl Summer, I saw it everywhere. City Girls Up! Fuck this now, Lava Girls Up! Fuck off, Lava Girls Up! To start a romance in summer is actually the best. Because you're so like, everything's nicer. Do you know what the real win is in summer? Not all those baddies and Mykonos dancing on the tables with all their ballers. The baller and the baller's girlfriend who are on that Mykonos trip who have their own villa and like will meet up with the group and then go for a nice dinner. They won! Okay? And if you all can't see that then get out of here. Book a flight home because that is what everybody wants, you know?
Starting point is 00:33:15 It's cool. It's cool to love. That's what we're rebranding. I love that but... Is that why you're running away to LA? Yeah! Just gonna start my new life. Like honestly, I always say if you're scared, that's when you need to jump. So just jump. And I'm scared. I'm low-key scared because I have no idea what's coming next.
Starting point is 00:33:36 But you cannot break something that's meant for you. So there's really no wrong move you can do if you're being your true authentic self. And I'm running away to Los Angeles So inspiring to very inspiring. I think it's a lie that we're ever ready known as ever ready. No, like yeah I didn't think so either. I think you just gotta go for it. And then if it flops you rebrand She was like what's a flop she was like actually what what is a flop you paid your own way Not a flop you're was like, actually, what is a flop? You paid your own way. Not a flop. You're able to afford to be there.
Starting point is 00:34:07 So I think it's about rebranding these moments and being like, you know what? I am proud of myself and I have got myself here and tapping into that more. Tapping into gratitude more, that's what's up. Yeah, and I think it's a very British thing to be self-deprecating. I always dampen down my stories with like,
Starting point is 00:34:25 oh yeah, but you know, I feel like I'm not where I'm meant to be, right? But that's ungrateful. Self-deprecation is actually ungrateful. It's actually like, you know what? I did do that. And I'm so grateful that happened. I am the luckiest bitch alive
Starting point is 00:34:37 that all these blessings happen. And when we tell stories, stop, stop putting yourself down. Stop trying to be funny. Stop trying to be the butt of the joke because you don't want to be too much. Be too much. Be too much, fall in love. We're not being nonchalant this year.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Nonchalant is dead. Correct. That's a nice way to end it. Like, that was good. Yeah, yeah, that was great. Thank you so much. Woo! Woo!
Starting point is 00:34:58 Woo! Thanks for watching!

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