The Break-Up Diet - We Broke Up on Our One-Year Anniversary… and I Still Had to Live in His House with Ava Belle

Episode Date: April 23, 2025

What does heartbreak look like when it spans continents? Wedding industry veteran Ava takes us on a journey through her "global heartbreak" experiences across London, Paris, Amsterdam, and Australia, revealing how each relationship ending taught her something valuable about love and herself.From crying for two months straight after an early breakup to developing healthier coping mechanisms as she matured, Ava's evolution offers a roadmap for anyone navigating relationship grief. "Now my life is busier," she explains. "It's like you've got two days, girl, you need to cry this out and then get back into all the positive things." Yet she emphasizes the importance of truly feeling your emotions rather than masking them with distractions.Particularly fascinating is Ava's perspective on long-distance love, having attempted seven international relationships. She shares the raw reality of breaking up on a one-year anniversary while living in her partner's home abroad, unable to speak the local language, then cohabitating with him for another month afterward. These situations create unique challenges that test emotional resilience in profound ways.At the heart of Ava's experiences lies a powerful shift from creating fantasy relationships to seeking authentic connections. In her twenties, she constructed idealized versions of partners, experiencing "the feeling of losing something that never existed" when these relationships ended. Through self-reflection and growth, she learned to build connections based on mutual respect and genuine admiration.Whether you're healing from heartbreak or simply curious about relationship dynamics, this conversation offers practical wisdom about processing grief, breaking unhealthy patterns, and remaining open to love despite past disappointments. As Ava beautifully puts it, "Grief is pain because it's love that has nowhere to go."Send us a textInstagram:@the_breakup_dietTikTok:@thebreakupdietEmail: [e-mail]

Welcome Ava to the breakup diet. Thank you so much for having me here today. I'm excited to chat all things break up with you, Yazzie. So let's hear a bit more about Ava to start with. I have worked in the wedding industry for, gosh, too many years to mention, probably over 15, doing weddings all over the world and working with brides. We have to insert some photos so you can see. doing weddings all over the world and working with brides. We have to insert some photos so you can see.

Yeah, and oh gosh, fashion, photographic work, commercial studio work, bit of everything really. You've done a lot of stuff overseas as well as in Australia, right? Yeah, yeah, I was based out of London for best part of nine years, and then I did a stint in Amsterdam and then based out of Paris for best part of nine years. And then I did a stint in Amsterdam and then based out of Paris

for best part of three years whilst traveling. I'm guessing you've had lots of heartbreaks. Oh yeah, yeah, more than my first year. Definitely a lot in London and in Australia. Gosh, I've had global heartbreak. Global heartbreak. Buckle up bitches, this is gonna get bumpy. This is the breakup diet.

Have you ever thought that a heartbreak in a specific country was worse than the other? Like are the Italian men worse, are the Parisian men, are the London men? That's a hard question, I never thought about it from that angle. Who are the worst to break up with? I think international romances have all got their different positives, pros and cons, but I would say that the universal thing about heartbreak is that no matter who it is... You're giving me a very diplomatic answer. It hurts.

It hurts. So no, I don't think there's any difference between nationalities and how they break up. I was hoping you were going to say London Man are trash. I was going to say the Londoners are not the most communicative and that was probably one of my, yeah we'll get there, we'll talk about that one. We'll catch that one. So London Man are trash. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, So London men are trash.

And how come you thought that you would like to come on the breakup diet? I just thought with my many years of dating and attempting to find a sustainable forever love, I've done a lot of things that have not worked. And I thought, you know, if I can't learn from them I'm gonna at least share the things I've learned not to do so I love talking about relationships I'm very interested in the relationship and each personal space and it's something that I find entertaining my own life and I just thought it was exciting to come and chat with you I got excited when I saw that you started a podcast I was like I want to come and talk to you yeah I got excited when I saw that you started a podcast. I was like, I want to come and talk to you. Yeah, yeah. So happy to have you on.

Do you think that like every breakup gets easier or? Look, they say that the first heartbreak is the worst and I can agree with that in some regard. Like it definitely hurt the most because it's the most shocking. You don't know what's coming. And then in my own experience, I think that like breakups remain difficult. They never get any easier. But I will say this, you or I, I got more resilient and I got better at it and I got more skills under my tool belt. I kind of learned how to deal with that heartbreak better. And probably I feel like lots of people when they break up with somebody, they they're scared they're not going to find somebody else.

But if you've already had like a few, you know that you do find somebody else. That's never a worry for me anymore. I always know that there will be other options. I'm a believer in love. I think that it is infinite and forever. And I don't think that it has an age limit. And I think that love, you know, is always going to be available.

You just have to be willing to put yourself out there. How do you know so you have a breakup? How do you know when you're ready to then go out again and actually be social? Like what, for you personally, what is a good timeframe of being like, okay, I've rotted in bed or I'm like, you know, I'm crying at sad songs.

Well, I don't think that there's any one time frame. I think every breakup is unique. Sometimes it's a very quick process and it's like, oh, I'm over that. I am willing to move on. Usually, I feel the person that ended it because you've, because you've gone through it ahead of time and you know it's coming and it's a quick exit out. Sometimes when you don't see it coming, there's times when it's taken me a year to get back to that place where I felt ready to put myself out there again in an emotionally deep way and risk being in love again. It's hard.

It is hard. I was hoping you were going to have a good answer of like you. It's a two-week period you do this Well, I mean, I think I've limited myself now in my younger years when I went through really tragic breakups that just broke me I had the luxury of time and space and I would wallow in it and I would give myself like two months to just cry it Out like there was one breakup. I literally cried over two months and I think that's ridiculous. And now my life is busier and I've got so much going on. It's like, you got two days, girl, you need to cry this out

and then you need to just get back into all the positive things. I know how to kind of shift out of it quickly. And sometimes it takes a little longer than that, but I've tried to fast track that process by doing all the things that are going to help. Would you say the best thing to do then would just be busy straight away after? No, definitely not.

I don't think so. Not for me. I think that there is a definite process that has to happen and that you can't hide from it. You can get busy and delay it, but at some point you need to deal with those feelings that are going to come up and you need to process them. And that can be alongside really positive things or that can be alongside really toxic things. And I think that allowing yourself to go through that process of the grieving, of the letting go of this future that you foresaw with

somebody, of allowing yourself to let go of the attachment to what you thought something was going to be, what its future possible potential was. Do you think like, you know how you say that you have to let go of like the idea, you know, of what your future might be? Do you think for you that's one of the hardest things with a breakup, going through a breakup, like letting go of the actual idea or the future that you might have made up, you know, or thought. Or what is it for you personally that you find most of the time that is the actual hard thing about the breakup? Is it just the like, familiarity? I find that word so hard to say, of that person, you know, like a text, like, and then when that's gone, or is it...

Different breakups, different things that have been hard to let go of. I think that in my younger years, I was in relationships and I would build a fantasy around somebody and build an idea of who they were and what they could be and create this sort of narrative in my mind and then place myself in it and try to fit into that. And then it would all implode. And I would be just gut wrenchingly disappointed. And it was like this feeling of losing something that never existed in the first place. And that was hard to reconcile with. As I've gotten older, and I've actually discovered another kind of relationship, this sort of like a genuine, deep, heartfelt, connected love based on mutual respect and an admiration of somebody for who they really are. When that

didn't work out, that was like the hardest, most painful thing in the world because it was real and it was gone and there was nothing I could do about it. And I also loved this person so much that I wouldn't want them to be inauthentic to their own journey in trying to be with me when they weren't ready and they weren't there yet. So it was like this, I had to become a bigger person, you know? And it was like a pain that was beautiful and necessary and comfortable in a way, which I'd never experienced before. It was really different. Have you always like had this nice thought, you know, process when you're, you've

gone through a breakup, that's such a nice way you put it. I would be, I think it's like for me anyway, I think there are different stages of like the first, when you first break up, you're sad, then you might be angry. Then you might be look back on it and be like oh no it's good i guess it depends on the circumstances of the relationship and and the person you're with and i think again like earlier relationships where someone didn't treat me well they weren't able to come and be their honest authentic self you know those breakups they're really they're hard because there is all this anger and resentment and it's the feeling of betrayal. When you truly love somebody and you let them go because it just

doesn't serve either of you, it comes from such a different place. And I think now I won't go into relationships unless that's the dynamic and that's the difference is like growing through being attached to something that's of my own making and being just in complete surrender and allowance of like what it actually is. Nice to know that you've gone through a few breakups that you're still very positive and you know still out there looking for love. Do you think that like is that hard? Do you find that hard or that's just your nature? Because lots of people would just be like, I hate men, i.e. Ilma, who's normally on here, is like, men suck. I'm not dating for two years. I went through that phase in my 20s where I felt like it was them and I wasn't getting

what I wanted and then they weren't showing up in the way that I needed. And then I took a really long, hard look in the mirror and went, well, what am I doing to accept this behaviour, invite this behaviour? It was really rough to look at myself and go, well, there's an ownership in that what I'm getting as a response is what I'm putting out there in the world. And I was deeply insecure and I was searching for someone to fix me and complete me and make me feel loved. And until I kind of really sat with it and oh, went deep, this is going deep. Until I went deep with it and actually like really got comfy with all of my stuff and removed my shame and like got comfortable with what I had gone through in my life and

got to a point where I felt like, oh, I actually have so much love to give and so much to offer. This growth, did you have it when you were in a relationship? Just by like, or when, only when you were out? Because some people I could imagine, like, it might have started off that they wanted to get the guy or something, and then in the relationship they've grown and kind of been like, oh my gosh, I am good enough as not to do with the guy? Or was this something you did like a self reflection with like therapy or? Guess maybe working in my line of work, because I see the evidence of these relationships where, you know, all their closest friends and family travel from across the world to celebrate their love. And I see those couples, I know they exist. And it's like, I want that. And I'm not

getting that. So what do I need to do? And it's kind of like been this evolving journey along many years of figuring out myself and getting to a place where that meets where I am now. And I don't think it's something that has happened within relationships and there's been growth. And then a lot happens outside of the relationships. And so I don't fear breakups anymore. It's something that has happened within relationships and there's been growth and then a lot happens outside of the relationships. And so I don't fear breakups anymore. It's like it's part of the process and sometimes it's this really beautiful thing because it's this time where you get to honor and cherish and like this sadness of letting go. There's always sadness and pain because we all have grief but grief is pain because it's

love that has nowhere to go, you know? And I thought that was really... like when I heard that I was like, oh, you know, it's okay. It's like nothing to be afraid of. It's actually just part of it. Have you ever broken up with somebody? Yes. Is that really hard? I think it's always easier to be the break up-er than the break up-ee. So to like break up with someone than to get dumped. No, I think I'd prefer to get dumped.

No, doesn't it? Not really? You'd rather be dumped. Yeah. You're avoiding the conflict. You don't wanna hurt anybody. Yeah. Oh, I hate being dumped.

It sucks. No, I would feel so bad. And then I would overthink it and be like, did I make the right decision? Hmm, interesting. I would overthink it to the match, to the point of even if like I knew that I made the right decision I would probably still in my head feel like did I make the right decision.

I guess you're always second guess yourself and that's normal but... A breakup? No no no okay if you break up with somebody that is like a really good person but they're just not right for you I think that would be ridiculously hard. Yeah yeah look I'll be honest I blew it with someone when I was 19. He was really, really great and I was just not... I wasn't ready to meet him where he was at and I ruined it. I mean, 19, that's usually young. I know, I was so young, but he met someone like two weeks after I kind of said, I think

we should probably date other people. And then he was with someone and they're still together 22 years later. So, wow. He was he was a keeper and I let him go and I blew it. It's like, you know, the one that got away. It was like, that was probably my worst fail. And I look at it like it was a fail, but it was also a really big learning. And I also look at the life that they had together and it was never going to be something that I could offer him. And she was right for him and I wasn't. So it's like, on the one hand, it was like, I was close.

But at the other hand, it's like it wouldn't like I wasn't I wasn't meant to be, you know? So you were just like not feeling it. And so why you had the. No, I was feeling it. It was long distance and long distance is hard. Yeah, it's hard. I've attempted seven long distance relationships.

Attempted. That was the key word. Or like long, long distance, like different countries. I have international too, intercity. So like Byron Sydney. Yeah. Did it just not work because of the distance? No. Okay. No.

Because like I moved countries, they moved countries, there was a lot of moving. Was it easier then when you did break up with the long distance because they weren't just like you know around the corner they weren't just like boop? No because like you're living in their house in another country and you've got to like pack up all your stuff and like one of them I was in another country I didn't speak the language I was living in his house I we broke up on our one year anniversary. And that's brutal you couldn't wait like it was just like it was organic it was like we went to dinner and we came home and we just realized it was like this moment of assessment we realized that our timelines were just completely off. And then, you know, I think I already had my ticket back to Australia at that point. And so I knew that I was coming home to do

some work. So I just like had to live with him for a month. It was like, that's so awkward. It was it was it was awkward. But in all honesty, it gave us the opportunity to wind it down and to walk ourselves out of it. Yeah, it was really heartbreaking for both of us, but it felt good that we had that time to reflect and say all the things we wanted to say and celebrate the love that we did have and say our goodbyes. Where were we? We were at your next international breakup. Right. From a long distance relationship.

This was probably my first long distance international breakup. And it was my first significant relationship of my 20s. Is that true? Gosh, I've got to think back. It's too many. That makes me sound terrible. But you know, when you're traveling, I will say this, I traveled and lived out of a suitcase for 13 years and I moved countries every three to six months on average.

And so that definitely- That makes it hard. That makes it hard to sustain a relationship. So I kind of like by nature was just a free spirit on the go. And then I'd meet someone and I'd be leaving their country or I wouldn't actually live there. And that's how I ended up in so many kind of like international long situationships and then like have a connection with someone. And then the only way to like see if it's actually going to work is like, you've got to go all in.

How do you bring up that discussion? Cause that's quite intense. Like that's scary. So like I was so young and fancy free and just so free-spirited that it would just like, I just fall in love with someone. They were like full head over heels in love with me. We'd get on the phone, you know, and end up talking and I'd go visit them and then they'd come visit me.

And then we'd be like, well, if we want to do this we just need to go for it. I feel like that's kind of good though. Cause then you know soon if you're compatible. Yeah. And like, and it was great, but it it was great, but the cracks started to show pretty quickly. It was things that I did not even think about. It was like I gave up my whole work, my friends, my business. I was relying on him financially, and I just gave up so much to be there, and it just didn't

work out. And on the flip side of that, I think we were talking about the English Australia thing. I was living in England and met someone. And- Whereabouts? In London? In London, yeah. He lived in Oxford and so he was traveling down the weekends. And we were together probably six months and it was all going really well. He was much younger than me and then he broke up with me like really harshly. Why? What happened?

He came down to the house and just like I was making dinner he's like no stop. Don't cut the tomatoes. Stop cutting the tomatoes. I was like cutting tomatoes and he's tomatoes. Stop cutting the tomatoes. I was like, I was like cutting tomatoes. He's like, he's like, This is what you remember. Don't cut the tomatoes. I was like, I stopped cutting the tomatoes.

And I was like, look, I was like, Did you have the knife still in your hand? I still had the knife in my hand. I'm in the kitchen. I'm cutting up salad. He'd walked in, like he'd driven two hours from Oxford. He'd walked in and gone upstairs, put his bag in my room, walked back downstairs and said,

I'm breaking up with you. And I was just like, oh, okay, that's kind of out of the blue. I was like, why did you drive in? You could have just done that over the phone. And then he's like, yeah, I can't do this anymore and just broke up with me very abruptly. I think we discussed it for about three or four minutes. And then he went upstairs, picked up his bag and then drove home. I was like,

okay. And I just said to him, I think you're having an emotional reaction. I don't think you really want to break up with me. I think you should go home and just cool down. And I'm here when you're ready to talk. But I was heartbroken. I just sat and waited and cried for the next three days waiting to hear from him. And then he wrote me an email, like a long ass email, like, I'm really sorry. And I, you know, explained himself. He's like, I don't actually want to break up with you. I love you, blah, blah, blah. And then we got back together. Do you think it's good getting? No, I just like that that relationship ended that moment. Like I lost all trust in him that moment, because when it gets hard, he just ran. I was like, we never recovered from that.

So do you think if somebody, for example, gets cheated on and they find out and they know, do you think that they should get, like they can? It's hard. It depends. I mean, I'm definitely of the school from Esther Perel's thinking that like, you can overcome affairs, it depends on the strength of the relationship and the reason the affair happened and what your deal breakers are and how your communication is and what the relationship was before.

Like the relationship that you had is going to be over, but that is overcomable depending on so many factors. If you both want to. Yeah, if you both want to, I don't think that it has to be the end. But, you know, when trust is broken and the foundations of the relationship are broken, for me personally, that's a deal breaker because if I can't trust someone and communicate with them, I haven't been able to come back after infidelity because it's just the circumstances. Would it matter for you how much, like what level of infidelity?

Because like what is your line? Like if you're out at a bar, if he's like buying other girls drinks or if he's chatting up flirting but nothing happens, is that a deal breaker for you personally? So this is interesting. And this has gotten interesting as I've gotten older and I've negotiated the terms of relationships really differently and negotiated the expectation. So I was in a relationship earlier this year with someone who we negotiated the terms as monogamish, meaning that we were open-ish. And so I think that as long as you're able to communicate

and you have a foundation of trust, that anything within a relationship that you decide, you know, free willingly with your partner is fine. Also, like all the breakups, like you can say, like, that everyone is probably, probably being so different, like, you can put similarities into all of them. But like, absolutely. Have you had anything that's been like a similarity that you've had more than once? And you've been like, why do I have that? My bad patterns? Yeah, of course. I definitely got into a bad pattern loop in my 20s. I was like, why am I reliving this same breakup over and over and over again? I think we keep

getting our comic lessons until we are willing and ready to face them. How did you do that though? Just being self-aware? Were you like, oh, okay, I'm sick of this cycle. I must have something to work on basically. Yeah, it just was not working for me. I think it was when I was 30, I went to London and something really sort of a flip, a switch flipped for me that I was no longer dating for entertainment, but I didn't then know how to access more. I didn't know how to get a better result from dating. I was sort of doing the same thing, getting

the same result and just being frustrated until I met a dating coach in London. You went to a dating coach. Well, I found him on Tinder and rather he found me and then like approached me to be a client and I was like a test client. What? I know it's crazy. He's on Tinder scouting. He was very cheeky.

He was on Tinder and he was scouting and like I matched with him. He was very good looking. And then we started chatting. He's like, actually I have an ulterior motive. I'm a dating coach. And would you like to have like a free three month kind of coaching session? I'm trying to get my business off the ground, you seem really interesting.

He was legit and he was lovely and insightful. And I started working with him. He kind of coached me through what I was doing that was getting me the results that I didn't want. And things really changed from that point. It wasn't just getting kind of like three weeks in and then having these guys ghost me, you know, which was kind of my experience up to that point.

Gosh, getting ghosted is hard. It sucks. And it's like, yeah, you just wanna know why, but it's also not good sometimes. You don't wanna know why sometimes too. And it doesn't help. No, I mean, there was one guy that ghosted me. He was on paper perfect kind of guy,

and we'd had three or four dates and was going well. We hadn't slept together. I was holding off because I wanted to like, get to know him, take things a bit slower. Then he just completely disappeared. And I was like, what's going on? Like, why? And then I see him in the supermarket kissing some other girl a couple of days later. I was like, oh, okay. That's great. You know, he just, well, I don't know. I just like, okay. He's obviously, it was closure for me because he was- You knew there was a reason.

There was a reason. And it was like was like, and I could actually, you know, just sit with that and it felt like, okay, I've at least got some sort of resolution. I'm not just wondering what the hell happened. If you don't get closure, like from a situation like that, what are you doing for yourself to get closure to let that situation go? Situations like that now, I think I just, I would probably send like one message of reaching out for resolution and if that resolution didn't come, I would see that more as something to do with them than me.

Me 10 years ago, if that happened, I would like ruminate and get obsessed and feel like take it on and feel like I'd done something wrong and like get really depressed and analyze it and feel like there was something wrong with me and now I'm just like, no, no, no, no. It's a them problem a lot of the time. Like they're, you know what I mean? Sometimes it's not right for them but it's not because you're not a great person or whatever.

That was a really big thing that shifted for me was like, if someone doesn't like me, it might have nothing to do with me. They've got so many factors going on in their life. Who knows what's going on for them? And I stopped taking it as rejection, whereas personally I just allowed myself to kind of let people leave.

Have you stayed friends with an ex? Yes. Do you think that's healthy? Yeah, it depends on the circumstances of the breakup. If they're like a serious, serious boyfriend. Oh, okay, have I stayed? A situation shifts a bit differently. Yeah, I went on a few days and like, okay, this isn't for us. And then we've gone back to the friend zone. I mean, the father of my child, because we co parent and we're

amicable. And I love him dearly. And I appreciate him and have such gratitude for him. And that that's a unique situation, because we share a child. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you have any like good advice for somebody going through a breakup right now? Best breakup advice. Start with honoring it and allowing all the pain and the grief, let that pass. Once you come out of the like eating ice cream and crying over romantic movies. Looking at couples down the street. You know that phase, the ugly crying romantic movies face? Once you're out of that, then I would say go into doing all the things that you love.

So if you're into yoga, eating good food, going to the beach, getting in the water is always really good. I mean, we're lucky here in Australia. I feel like it's nicer to go through a breakup in Australia. Definitely better to go through a breakup in Australia. In London, what are you doing? Oh, I went to the park, I ran. I thought you were going to say went to the pub and I was like, I don't think you should

drink after. No, don't drink. Get things not to do, don't drink, don't indulge in all those things that make you like the band-aids, just avoid the band-aids, just like go into it, allow yourself to feel it, and then all the feel-good things, all the self-care things, meditating, yoga. Lae Do you think it's healthy to reflect on it from your behalf a lot? Or you know what I mean, like thinking about like, oh, what I did wrong? Or do you think that's not good to do?

Evie I think that there is merit in owning what your accountability was in what went wrong because it always is, you know, majority of the time there's going to be some ownership in that there's two people in this relationship. If it doesn't work, that there's going to be some responsibility from both sides. So yeah, being able to see that because that's where your growth comes from is like owning the things that you could have done better, owning the things that maybe it wasn't even that you could have done better for them, but you could have done better for yourself. I've only had a very minor breakup, but I felt, you just feel that I just felt ugly. And I don't know if it was because there wasn't enough time, so I was just crying the entire

time. Like if someone would say, I'm not joking, the sounds of my cries was literally like, yeah, like an animal had just been hit on the road and like lost its mom and I was the baby animal. I feel your pain. I remember feeling like that at times in my life. It is, it's like it just is the most painful thing ever.

And yeah, it does make you ugly because you get all puffy and the tears and then like the face and all that, you know. And then you try to do your makeup because you want to do something. You can do the blotchiness, the blotchy puffy. Ugh, yeah, the swollen. I know, it's hard.

So once you get out, like you can hide for a few days. That's okay, allow yourself, like just honor it. It like you can hide for a few days. That's okay. Allow yourself, like just honor it. It's okay to hide for a few days. Do you think you should like be around people in that time or totally alone? No, I think it's okay to be alone. Like really listen to yourself. You have a guidance system. Don't push yourself to do what you think you should because of societal expectations. Just be with it. I think that in my younger years, I would push myself, so I'm gonna go party, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna find some new boy to kiss tonight,

I'm gonna dress up and make myself feel fabulous. And I was like this bandaid over the top. And all that did was postpone and prolong the feeling that would come and get me later. It always resurfaced when I was on a yoga mat or when I was, awfully awfully the worst time at a wedding and like someone's going through breakups when you like have to get off and do like a wedding every day is like such an ironic tragedy.

Do you think men and women handle breakups differently? So differently. Like do you think it catches them later? Because that's like a big thing. Yeah, I think it catches them way later. I think that the initial response most men that I've observed go through is that there's a relief and then they have this sense of freedom and they go out and they enjoy it and they don't really process it and then all of a sudden it comes and gets them when

they least expect it and then they call. It's usually this amazing universal timing that it's the second you've moved on and you're like ready to kind of like start dating you're feeling really great again your energy's all clear and then they've like realized and they come calling and that's when you have to be really strong and go like we broke up for a reason you broke my heart no i'm not taking you back so being a makeup artist you obviously you try to make people you don't try you do make people look like and feel their best for somebody somebody going through a breakup, do you have any like good tips makeup wise? My go-to is always a haircut. I just, I don't know what it is. It's like, it's cutting off the old

energy. It's removing. I just, I love a breakup haircut. I usually like fake tan is always great. If I'm feeling like I want to get ready to enter the dating market again. It's a bit of fake tan, bit of sun, nice face mask, and just, yeah, I might buy a few new products and put them in my routine and make myself feel extra pretty, and that's like, I'm ready to get back out there. It's a good feeling. It's also really good if you've been through

the crying, depressed stage where you're all puffy and stuff, and the first time you put makeup on and a good state in your mind, Arthur, you feel like a super mom. It's like the elastic band effect. It's like you've been in this relationship, you can't let yourself go, everything's gone down.

You go through the breakup and then it's like this elastic band, boom, I'm back out there and I'm feeling better than ever. You didn't actually let yourself go, but you feel even more more because you look so disgusting in the like hermiting stage that you're like, no wonder. Anyway, then when you get the makeup, it's like, woo. I'm back, I'm back, baby, I'm on fire. You