The Break-Up Diet - We’ve Hit Rock Bottom – WTF Do We Do Now?

Episode Date: May 7, 2025

Change hits differently when you're the one going through it. What starts as a casual catch-up between friends quickly transforms into a raw, unfiltered look at what happens when podcast hosts who talk about breakups suddenly find themselves living through their own relationship endings and career transitions.This episode pulls back the curtain on our most vulnerable moments – from violent crying sessions to stress-induced physical symptoms (yes, breakup nausea is real). We share the coping mechanisms keeping us afloat: shower crying rituals, the therapeutic power of unsent text messages, and how structured journaling provides unexpected clarity when emotions feel overwhelming.The timing couldn't be more symbolic. As spring cleaning season encourages external decluttering, we're experiencing internal cleanouts – shedding relationships and career paths that no longer serve us, despite the comfort of familiarity. There's a bittersweet symmetry in recognizing that sometimes the most painful decisions lead to the greatest growth.What makes this conversation particularly powerful is the contrast between intellectual understanding and emotional reality. We know these changes are necessary and ultimately positive, yet our bodies rebel with physical manifestations of stress. It's a reminder that even the right decisions come with genuine grief that deserves processing.Beyond the pain, we glimpse the liberation waiting on the other side – more authentic lives, reclaimed time, and the freedom to pursue long-deferred dreams without compromise. As we navigate toward "hot girl summer," we're learning that spring's upheaval might be precisely the catalyst needed for meaningful transformation.Have you experienced a major life transition that initially felt devastating but ultimately led to something better? Connect with us and share your journey – we're all figuring this out together.Send us a textInstagram:@the_breakup_dietTikTok:@thebreakupdietEmail: [e-mail]

So we have something very, very special to ask you, or a big favour, a big favour that we want you guys to do is basically, could you please, wherever you're watching this, be it YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, like anything, could you please like follow us, subscribe, whatever, because it really helps. We're a growing podcast so every bit of support helps. We really appreciate it. Okay I'm ready. Hey guys welcome back to another episode of the breakup diet. Normally our episodes are either focused on guests who we all love or we kind of talk about a theme or a phase in the breakup. Today we just want to mix it up a bit.

We just wanna have a catch up to be honest. Yeah, a catch up. Cause normally we've kind of thought about not necessarily what we're saying, but we've like had the topic of like, you know, what would someone feel like if they were getting slow faded or, you know. Yeah, we talk about different types of breakups,

different phases of a breakup. Yeah. I think we just need like a friend to friend catch up. A friend to friend catch up because we're both going through breakups but on different things. I said that with a smile, I'm actually very sad and so I don't know why I'm smiling. Buckle up bitches, It's gonna get bumpy. This is the breakup diet. WTF is going on. I get that. The end of Q1, I think, is such a phase for change.

Yeah, I put it into the chat GBT and it said April and it said spring cleaning. Which is crazy. Cause we didn't. No, we didn't do that. So we were on theme. We really were. And we're in touch. We really are in touch with everything.

And I just wanted to say like, there's a lot happening. Yeah. Where do we begin? Like I'm going through a career crisis slash career change. I'm going to break up. I got dumped. So there's like a lot of changes that's happening internally. And we're trying to work at it together. And then also film about breakups, which is kind of ironic because we're both like

in crisis mode. We're in final flight Ilma's like ah I'm like ah and then I'm like pull yourself together. We're like crumbling. No no no I think this is an exciting time. Oh no 100%. As we said before we thought we were at the lowest already but we hadn't got there yet. We actually we were foreshadowing ourselves because it got a lot worse. Got a lot worse got a lot worse But that means it's only gonna get better exactly. I

Don't know why I'm so curious probably because I've been crying the last Three days a hundred percent. I think like when the cameras on we kind of switch into like this is work So it's not like you're not like a bad person or a psycho if you're not crying you don't need to cry You have already cried. I'm all cried out yesterday was like my worst So it's not like, you're not like a bad person or a psycho if you're not crying, you don't need to cry. Yeah, I've already cried. I'm all cried out. Yesterday was like my worst cry. Yesterday was my worst day too.

Like violent to the point where I thought I was gonna black out. Oh God. Do you feel that? I was just sad, but I did take two days off work. Good. I said I need two days because I can't focus. Like I'm looking at my laptop and I just feel empty,

if I'm completely honest. And then I was like, even walking to the loo and I'm start crying, even getting a straw from the drawer, crying. And then I was like, why am I crying? Like my life actually hasn't changed that much. Like it's super sad, don't get me wrong. And I have a loss and I'm

super upset and I feel like I don't come across like I'm upset right now but I am so hurt. Fine. But my life hasn't changed that much. There's still like an adjustment that you're going through. Yeah obviously if you- And I think that's what your body's responding to. Yeah. I was talking about it with my friend just before getting here because he also quit his job to like, chase the dream. Fast forward, everything works out really well, but he does say that even if you're mentally like saying,

oh my gosh, this is the best decision, the first couple of months, your body is going to release some stress. Change is scary because it's the unknown. And when you're not having a change, you're like in that familiar routine or that you know what to expect. It's all like, you know you're doing this

and it's gonna get there maybe, or you know what I mean? You're on the straight and narrow. Whereas the moment you change and you're doing something new, it's all like, it could go wrong, but it also could go great. And I think we should just focus on the fact that it will go great. Yeah.

People who take massive risks, everything just works in their favor. And honestly, back to relationships after each breakup, I've become so much stronger, so much smarter and have been closer to my dream step by step. So how many more breakups do I need to have to reach the dream? Tilda Who knows. Evie Hopefully not another one, it's pretty rough. Tilda It is so rough, but the thing is, after going through something so tough, you're just like, screw this, I may as well live my life for myself and do what I want because, you know, I can't really control anyone else's actions

but myself. Yeah, I think that's a really important thing when you're going through a breakup, you are going to have explosions of wanting to be a bit manic. Try not to actually go manic at them because I think overall it works out better for you. 100%, but.

But it's hard, that's so hard because you're so overwhelmed in the motion and you want to text them and be like, you fucking dickhead, ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma. But just don't do it. Just not worth it. Don't do it. Just not worth it. So like when you're kind of experiencing a crash out, what should we do?

Well, I get in the shower, which is such a weird thing. But like, whenever this is like also whenever I'm sick or something, I always just like, I'm in the shower, which is such a weird thing, but like, whenever, this is like, also whenever I'm sick or something, I always just like, I'm in the shower. It's like such a weird thing, it's like cleansing the body, I'm like washing away the tears, and then I like, get back into bed and probably cry, and then I write, my notes app goes off. It's firing, like, firing up, you know? The amount of messages I've written. And they're not even mean. They're actually nice, but the amount of things that I've written is actually a joke. It's just a great way to really see your anger and every other kind of emotion as opposed to texting them. You're better off just holding it in yourself, seeing the words that you're actually feeling and process it that way. Yeah, it doesn't even have to be angry. I'm not actually angry.

I'm upset and I'm hurt and I'm disappointed and I'm so sad, but I'm not angry. So my texts are a bit different, but also what I have been doing is texting them but like these ones are a bit more mean but these ones will go to my friends. But you know also- Hey that's better, that's a better way to deal with it. At least you get the anger out and it's not going towards them because that's just not worth it. Yeah I may have done this but I'm not gonna say what brand I used.

You have to, I don't know if you've seen it, but it's like, relate your ex to a brand. And then they're like, I did not use this one, or I didn't use any of these. I had to chat to EBT some ideas because I couldn't come up with any actually. Which is like, the testament to my ex because I couldn't come up with any, so I was like, shit, give me some, I need some. My ex is like McDonald's, you can get them at any time, that type of thing. Or they're rough. Or my ex is like a Netflix account, everybody uses it but I'm the one paying.

How rough is that? They were really funny. That is rough. I think it's a podcast as well, but it's a clip from a podcast where these girls are all talking about it that people have written in. Have you seen the ones where it's like dudes be named Phil but they leave you empty, dudes be named Christian but they take you to hell? Yeah, yeah, it's like that type of thing.

Honestly, I actually weren't relating them to my situation because I'm not angry. I'm upset. So it's different, but they did make me laugh for other people's situations. I was like, that's so rough. Sometimes a comedy can help your crash out. Yeah, what else have I been doing that's actually really helpful is I bought a book off Amazon, let me get the book.

I actually didn't get this book for my breakup. I got this book before because obviously- Research purposes. Yeah, and I thought like, I wanna know what's in it for like maybe somebody else but because I'm now on the diet I have been using it and it's really cool so it's called the Breakup Journal and you basically write down all like you write down the prompts that it tells you in it so like every day it gives you a different question but then also a quote that someone said. So like day one for example, why did the relationship end? And then the quote is

tears are words that need to be written. So like you're just saying why you think it ended I guess like not or you can say whatever you want and then you write all on that page not saying what I wrote. on that page, not saying what I wrote. Um, and then day two it gives you something else like, will you still be friends? Why or why not? Like, so then you can just write whatever you want. And then obviously you have a quote as well. I know my heart will never be the same, but I'm telling myself I'll be okay. And it has like Sarah Evans said that.

That's really nice. Yeah. And then day three is, what do you feel most about the future? I'll just run through a few of the days, like maybe like till six and then, and I won't do the quotes, but you should get the book. And then it says, day four is,

what will you miss about the relationship? Day five, what will you not miss about the relationship? Day 6 is, were there any red flags? What were they? And day 7 is, how are you feeling today, mentally and physically? But it goes up to a month. And it's not all to do with just the breakup, it's also to do with yourself. Day 29, what will you never want to change about yourself?

So yeah. That can be applicable for a career breakup too. Yeah, so I think that's good. You know what I mean? Like I think that even if I don't get to the very end, like I think every day doing something where you think about it, it kind of might help let go. Yeah, cause you're kind of processing it a bit more clearer.

You're forced to think a little bit more deeply than you would have without the journal. Yeah, and also like if you did it all in one day, you're just going to burn that and not get the best value out of it. And you're not going to get the best, I guess, experience in deep diving about your breakup. Yeah, but also my emotions switch so much.

Like I'm quite calm now. And like, to be fair, I have been actually quite calm. Like the first night wasn't calm. I was super upset. But if I had done six of these questions on the first night, it would be so much more different because I was riding off an emotion of being hurt. You know, whereas like having a perspective because I was riding off an emotion of being hurt. Yeah.

You know? Whereas like having a perspective and sitting back and allowing the time to like, which is painful, like mulling over different things in your head, then coming back and writing individual points of things actually helps. It definitely does, I could imagine.

What's another way to cope with change rather? To do with a breakup or just in general? Change in general? Change in general, because we both are going through an end of something, very different things, but it's still like a very big part of our lives. Career, relationship. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like change is, it's scary and it's the unknown, as we said in the beginning, but it's also like you should enjoy the ride too. It's a lot of different emotions because right now I feel very anxious.

Yesterday, cried a lot. Today, I am so tired. I feel like my eyes are sunken in, but I just know that in the long run, this is the best decision. Yeah, you have an emotional hangover. I think that's what it is. And it's funny because we made this decision

like six months ago. Yeah. We've known about this decision six months ago and even then it's still like, oh my God. This is relatable to a breakup. It doesn't matter even if you know you and somebody are gonna break up and you know they're not the right person.

It doesn't mean that doesn't hurt. and that's something that yeah it's not really talked about either if I was like breaking up and I like wasn't sure and I wasn't sure for a long time and I was like you know I knew this wasn't my person and all this sort of stuff when I actually went to do it it would still hurt a big decision can be so painful even if it's the right thing. It's almost maybe easier if it's like an impulse. Like you quit your job and then you like just because I don't know someone yells at you or you break up because he cheated like I don't know you know like it's almost easier

to change if it's done really fast and you don't have a long time to like- Process everything. Yeah, and think about all the different situations. Yeah, but I think for me personally, it's for the best that I've taken my time with my decision. Oh yeah, yeah. Because it's such a big decision to do the Q word, if you get what I mean. It's been a lengthy process,

because I've had at the start when I made this decision where I just go back and forth, back and forth and then justify actually, you know, maybe I should just stick it out, you know, why not? It's still money at the end of the day. Yeah. It adds another level of stuff when it's like you're also, there's money involved because obviously like that's hard, that's really hard to walk away from something when they like you're tied because you get this amount and then you're not gonna get that amount it is hard

But then when I made the pros and cons list like it was just you can easily see physically that the pros Outweigh the cons you're so much happier. You're gonna be so much. I can tell cuz like this past month I've had it off and I've been so much happier. We've been so productive and it's been nice to have my time back. But I think this has to be like a permanent lifestyle change. Yeah, you're starting your 30s in the right way. Yeah, exactly. I wanna start it on my own terms. I wanna work fully for myself

and just be the superstar that I am. You are, but you know what? It's also, it's scary, but at the end of the day, if it doesn't work, which it will work, like stuff will work, right? But if it doesn't, you don't go back to being the same sport, which is the same as a breakup. You don't go back to being, when you first started your job, trying to get in and all this.

You have what, eight years of experience or however long. You are a much different candidate from then. That's actually so true and I'll be like eligible to make way more money than I am now as well. So honestly, it's like nothing but good. Plus people actually admire, and I think business people actually admire, maybe I'm wrong, but I think business people actually admire

when you go out and you try to do something by yourself. 100%, I think like every entrepreneur gets it. Everyone that's been successful, they've been delusional and they've been risk takers. I'm delusional, now it's time for me to take the risk. And you're doing it, you're doing it. Exactly, because every person that I've met, they have always just known from the get-go that they are stars,

they're meant to do this and they don't settle. And it's really inspiring because a lot of my friends are like that. A lot of my friends, you know, left uni to do acting. They left their corporate job to be like a celebrity makeup artist. Like everyone's achieved their dreams by taking that risk. And it's my time now. And I can't wait to see who I am by the end of the year. You have to take the risk,

but you have to be willing to put in the work. Oh my God. That's the thing. I think you're so ready now to do this. Same with me. Even me talking about doing a podcast and actually doing it. I couldn't have done it

three years before when I wanted to start one. I wasn't the same person, I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready to give what it takes to do it. 100%. I think you need to go through multiple career developments. You need to have a spurt in maturity because there's a certain type of like head space and frame of mind that you need to be to be able to really give yourself to the job. Yeah.

To the work. Yeah, because then if you are doing a change and you're not willing to do that, don't do the change. No, 100%. If you're not willing to graft, and that even comes with a breakup, if you're not willing to do the bit to like self-help. Yeah like if you're not sure don't change anything like 100% just don't. Just like hold for now.

Yeah either they'll do it or... You'll be pushed into doing it. Yeah or then when you're ready you will and then you won't regret it. A lot of people are scared to regret losing someone. Yeah, I completely agree. Like people are scared to lose their person, their job, their sources of comfort, which is totally fair enough. But if they are the wrong person, if they are the wrong job.

When you're going through a loss, because this is all like loss, right? You don't, it's hard to actually remember all the bad stuff. You kind of clean, your brain is actually so messed up that it clings onto all the good things. I'm harping on the money when I keep like needing to remind myself, Hey, this job has held me back from all these incredible opportunities. Yeah. I can't keep living life like this anymore. It's not fair to me. Yeah.

Change is imminent. Change is happening right now. We did say in the Spring Cleaning episode the year technically starts from April. Evie Yeah, I feel like with the Spring Cleaning episode- Clara It's like been a catalyst for something. Evie Yeah, I feel like we manifested this. Clara We did! That photo shoot was like a form of manifestation. Evie Yeah.

Clara Shit. Evie That fucking sucks for me doesn't it? No, it's gonna be good. It's gonna be good. There's light at the end of the tunnel. 100% light. The tunnel might be long and far. But it's okay. No, I think it's 100% worth it. But I am so excited to see you thrive and just be on another crazy journey with me together as like two single girls Navigating London navigating like the social media space navigating the industry

There's gonna be a lot going on and the fact that we get to do it together We are so lucky like I have so much to learn from you You have so much to learn from me like also I am really excited that I get to have more of you here. You want to go out there and you want to be with the person, especially like if you don't see them that often, like me, I would make those that choice to do it because like, I didn't know when I was going to see him next, but then I ultimately missed out on so many different things that I could have gone to

that I could have not met somebody for like a relationship, but I mean, met somebody like new friends, new connections. Yeah. Cause that's what this is all about. You know what I mean? Yeah. So I'm really excited that you're gonna be in like one place, we're gonna be able to hang out way more.

Yeah. Plan more. I mean, hot girls summer's coming upon us. This could not have come at a better time, Yaz. Yeah, it doesn't feel like a great time, but it will be because at least it is true. Just before summer. Babe. He would have been a dick if he broke up with you in October,

because that's what my ex did and it was the worst. Seasonal depression and then the fucking breakup. How much do you hate me? Yeah. At least wait for Christmas. Wait after. No, no, no, no, no. Give me. Yeah. At least wait for Christmas. Wait after. No, no, no, no, no. Give me a gift. My birthday is in a week.

Just remember that one. Oh my god. So weird. I'm gonna keep my mouth shut for that one. I'm gonna keep my mouth shut too. Rude. It's always during a big life event. Divorce party, birthday, tail as old as time.

If somebody was on your Netflix or your accounts, would you log them out? Yeah. You see, I have a predicament. So feel free to log out of my ITV and my channel four because I can't log them out apparently into the house like I have to go to the like actual device and log it out. Oh yeah yeah that makes sense. No it doesn't because what if I'm... So you can you not log...

I can't... What if you change your password from the internet? It doesn't log them out. Oh because my friend I use my friend's Netflix and she... No but it's not Netflix it's It's channel four and ITV. Ah, I thought they were free though. X. ITV X. I thought they come free with Smart TV.

No, no, no, I pay for them. They're logged into my thing. I had to log in. Oh my god. I think I paid for them, but I had to log in. Like it's my account on his thing. So feel free to log out. Yeah. Otherwise I'm going to be watching what you're watching and then I'm going to be, like it's my account on his thing. So feel free to log out. Otherwise I'm gonna be watching what you're watching and then I'm gonna be reporting if it's bad. And if you start watching like Gossip Girl or something, I'm gonna know there's another girl there

and I'm gonna go ham. So beware that I won't go ham. But like I might, who knows? Let's see. Let's see. Change makes me crazy crazy change won't make you crazy. You're not gonna crash out dude. No I would know I would have already crashed out if I was I have been very sad That's why I feel like today is the first day that I am still really sad, but I've actually just like accepted it Oh, yeah, same. I accepted the decisions been made. It's happening it's happened. And what's the point in being sad?

Exactly. It's not gonna change anything. No, exactly. Baby steps and then we'll be on track for Hot Girl Summer. Yeah. Oh, Summer will be great, Yas. I think we're both gonna be so free and we're not gonna be held back anymore.

My job's held me back so much. You've had to be in two different places at once. It's been hard for you to manage time. So you're gonna be so free now. You know what will change is I'll actually be able to go out and see people and do things because I won't have to be- Managing two different lives at once.

Yeah, that's actually exciting. That's one exciting thing. There are some positives. There's way more positives than negatives. I mean, I wouldn't go that far. Like your time is gonna be focused on stuff that like fully benefit you. You're gonna be surrounded by people that are like,

your number one fans, me first. Like, it's gonna be so good. I can't wait to just like get hot, take like cute pics. Hugo Spritz, the best Hugo Spritz I've had, because you made them. You're so intrepid. I am very good at Hugo Spritz. You're such a pro.

Yes, I'm getting really excited. Are you? Yes. I said it was so much enthusiasm, because I could feel the wave. But it's okay because we're on the journey. We're on the journey together and we're going to be so fine together. And change isn't scary.

I mean it's a bit scary but it's exciting as well. Change is just like opening up more opportunities that are going to be more fulfilling to us. Yeah. And God knows we need it, Yaz. We were praying for a miracle and I think the miracle has spanned into this, but it'll be for the best. Yeah.

It's good content for the Break Up Diet too. It's amazing content for the Break Up Diet. I mean, we're actually living, I'm actually living the diet. To be fair, this is pretty gross, so whether we keep this in or not is, the first night when I first found out, which I think is shock, I vomited the whole night. Vomited. Fair. But I've never had that before.

Fair. I've been having the worst sweats, the worst bloating of my life, and I've been constipated because of the stress. Fair. It's just a lot. The stress really manifests into crazy stuff physically because mentally I'm like, no, this change is important. Like everything that I've been saying in this episode, I mean from the bottom of my heart, but my body is going whack at it. Yeah, it's because it's in Final Flight. I actually looked it up yesterday why you do like have a breakup diet and I was like

why is that like why does your body do that there's like multiple different reasons but like one of them is is fight or flight a change in emotion like an extreme change in emotion loss like you're grieving and that just suppresses it because you're overly stimulated about the sadness and the loss and then there was one more, but I can't remember. So that's why you go through the break of day, but it's good because it's just before summer, so it's gonna be hot for summer. We're having a massive clear out, a massive purge.

The spring cleaning is actually not over. We're really going into it ham. I do want to end the episode by saying happy birthday in advance. Yes, I know it's in a few days time Love you so much. I might start crying now. No, you're not there's no more tears. I'm so proud of you The way you've carried yourself this year has been the most like Classiest inspiring thing I've ever seen. I'm always at awe of you Like I literally feel like I know you're younger than me, but I want to be you when I grow up.

Oh, stop it. You're gonna make me cry. Inside out, so kind, so genuine. Everyone loves you. Everyone's rooting for you. I'm like your biggest cheerleader. Like I just can't wait for you to just thrive. This is going to be such an exciting year. And I'm so happy that I you to just thrive. This is gonna be such an exciting year and I'm so happy that I get to be by you. You're so good with words and you just stunned me

and I wish I had some, like I have so much nice stuff to say but I can't say it like that. No, but it's your birthday. This is about you. I didn't say that on your birthday. That's okay. No, it's not! It's fine!

Okay I'm gonna get it back. I'm gonna get it back. Just not right now because I've processed it. No, no. That was lovely. Just promise to be by my side. Yes, always. Always.

Love you. Love you too. Love you guys. Thanks for watching guys!