The Briefing with Albert Mohler - Tuesday, November 5, 2024
Episode Date: November 5, 2024This is The Briefing, a daily analysis of news and events from a Christian worldview.Part I (00:13 - 12:46)Election Day 2024 Has Finally Arrived: What to Watch For As the Results Roll In (All Too Slow...ly in Some Cases) TonightPart II (12:46 - 21:54)The History of the Electoral College: Why Our Constitutional Republic Does Not Rely on the Popular Vote for PresidentNo Democracy Lives Forever by Liveright (Erwin Chemerinsky)Part III (21:54 - 28:35)No, the Presidential Election Should Not Be Based in the Popular Vote: The Electoral College is an Essential Strength of Our Constitutional RepublicBeshear says he supports abolishing the Electoral College as Election Day nears by USA Today (Hannah Pinkski)Securing Democracy: Why We Have an Electoral College by Intercollegiate Studies Institute (Dr. Gary L. Gregg II)Sign up to receive The Briefing in your inbox every weekday morning.Follow Dr. Mohler:X | Instagram | Facebook | YouTubeFor more information on The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, go to sbts.edu.For more information on Boyce College, just go to BoyceCollege.com.To write Dr. Mohler or submit a question for The Mailbox, go here.
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It's Tuesday, November 5, 2024, Election Day in the United States of America. I'm Albert
Mueller, and this is the briefing, a daily analysis of news and events from a Christian worldview.
Well, indeed, it is Election Day finally here, although tens of millions of Americans have already
voted, tens of millions of Americans are likely to go to the polls today. And there is, at least,
the projection of a pretty big turnout in terms of historic turnout percentages and raw numbers
headed into a presidential election. And that is because, just about everyone in America who is watching
this election and understands what's at stake, they understand that there are big issues in play.
And thus, as I discussed yesterday, if there are people at this point who are undecided,
it must be because they are profoundly uninvested in the issues and thus in the future of this nation.
But here's something very interesting. As we go into election day, what are we being told?
We're being told what we've talked about for days, and that is that the election is incredible.
close. So close, as I warned yesterday, that you shouldn't take any numbers for granted. You should
take none of these numbers at face value, because it takes time to assimilate these numbers responsibly,
and we've run out of time. But that doesn't mean that the candidates and their parties and their
campaigns have run out of time, or that figures in the media have run out of time in terms of
pressing the case that the momentum is headed one way or the other. Frankly, we just don't know. But we're
about to know, sort of. Just about every major newspaper and news source, the streaming news channels
and all the rest, they are telling us that the race is close and they're trotting out some numbers
in order to try to play some kind of numbers game. But at this point, it is a game. The only numbers
that count at this point are the numbers that come down to votes. And that's where the counting
is going to become really, really acute. So we're going to talk in just a moment about why the
set up is as it is, why our constitutional order is as it is, why we are actually voting in a
context that will eventually produce an electoral college result. That's why we are so concerned
with the vote state by state. But that's the way it is. More on that later. Let's just think about
when we will know anything concrete from these states. Well, you're not going to stay up all night.
Given the way presidential elections work, you don't need to stay up all night, wondering which
way California is going to go. It's on the West Coast, but I can tell you with absolute confidence
that it is going to go for the Democratic ticket. And that's simply because the numbers are already
there. Meanwhile, let's come back, say, to the east. Let's look at a state like Alabama. Well,
I think I am going to call that one. Alabama's going to go for the Republican ticket. Now,
you say, why are you so confident? It is because just of the numbers on the ground,
including party registration, previous elections. You can pretty much also figure out that
The Trump campaign really has had not much hope of carrying California.
There may be some bluster, but the numbers aren't there.
And frankly, the Harris-Walls campaign has not been too concerned about fighting over Alabama
because the votes there, well, they're not going to get them.
So we come back to the so-called swing states.
And right now in 2024, the most important of the swing states, starting with the most important
of them all, we have to start with Pennsylvania.
But then we go to Wisconsin, Michigan, North Carolina, Georgia, Nevada.
and Arizona. Now, as I mentioned before, there have been in most presidential races like this two
claims made. One is that it's an extremely close election. Everyone has an interest in telling you
it's an extremely close election. Why does everyone have an interest in telling you that? Well,
in this case, I think it turns out also to be true. But the reason why they have an interest
in telling you this is that the news media, well, it has absolutely no reason to tell you that this
is an election that's going to be boring. No, this has to be a nilm.
male-biting, thrill-a-minute election. In this case, again, probably so. But when you look at the two
campaigns, well, there's a similar picture here. Have you noticed how many of the surrogates for the
campaigns have been pressed by news anchors and others for what they will do when their candidate
might lose and they don't answer the question? That's because in politics, that's considered a fatal
fault. You never talk about losing until the election's over. Obviously, two people going
head to head, one's going to win, one's going to lose. But you know what? Going into the election,
no one's contemplating losing, at least on the record. And here's the way that plays out. If you are,
say, way ahead, you feel like all the polling indicates, you're way ahead. Your candidate is way
ahead. Why do you play the close election? It's going to be close game. It is because you need your
voters to turn out. It's a huge problem when voters don't turn out. If they think the thing's
already done, the cake is baked, they might stay home. Well, you know. You know.
need them to vote. So you need to tell them this is going to be close. On the other side of the equation,
if you believe you are behind or your candidate is behind, you've got to say it's a close race
so that your people don't give up and not vote. So both sides know they've got a problem. If they're
too much ahead, some of their people won't vote. They're not so far ahead. If ahead at all,
then if they're behind and their people hear that they're behind, there's a concession that they're
behind, there's a motivation for those people just to stay at home because they can't win anyway.
So everyone's going to tell you that the race is very close. I'm telling you that the race is very close. You know the race is very close, but that's also because of a far more important issue, and that is on the worldview divide, the partisan divide, the cultural moral divide in the United States. The numbers mean it's going to be very close. So here's what to look for. And I think it's great when Christian families and Christian friends can gather together and watch the election results come in. It's a lot more satisfying when at the end of a Tuesday,
night on election day, you know who has won virtually all the offices and how all the ballot
questions have turned out. That is less and less likely. So let's talk about why that's so,
and let's talk about how we are to process what is going to take place tonight. Let me get to the
fun part first. If you want to see the direction that the election is taking, and you want to
see verifiable signs of which way the vote seems to be trending, you need to look at two states.
those two states are Georgia and North Carolina. You need to be watching Georgia and North Carolina because they are both mentioned to swing states. You heard that already. Both of them are swing states, but both of them also have election laws and mechanisms that mean results will come in pretty fast. And those results should be known by some time, well, around say 10 or 11 on Tuesday night. If not before, by that time, you should have a pretty good indication of how the vote is going in North Carolina.
Carolina and Georgia. Now, both campaigns seem firmly to believe that if their candidate wins both
North Carolina and Georgia, they just might come close to running the table. So if you win one,
but not the other, well, at that point, it's going to be a longer night. Indeed, the election
results are not going to be known in full until we get too late in the week if then. And I must say,
I find that a tragedy. It is an embarrassment to a constitutional republic that has to have.
As all the powers of technology and counting available to us in the year 2024, this is an embarrassment.
But it is because of a good principle, at least that good principle is, the voting mechanisms
are left up to the individual states. That's far better than having the federal government
run this kind of thing from some centralized authority. But that being said, some of the states
are better at it than others. And some of the states have adopted systems, laws, and procedures
that make it much more difficult to count the votes.
I think one interesting culprit in this case is the state of Pennsylvania.
And again, it is the most important swing state of all the swing states this year.
Both campaigns know it.
But it could be that we will not know the winner in Pennsylvania until not only days after the election,
but frankly, it could be a week or so.
Their warning us about this already.
Folks close to the ballot counting system there in Pennsylvania say the chance of knowing
how the Pennsylvania vote is going to end up on Tuesday night, those chances are virtually zero.
And I'll just go back to say, I think Pennsylvania bears responsibility for this.
I think the fact that they have adopted legislation that says that votes can't be counted until
election day, when so many people are voting early and so many people are voting by mail,
I think that is a huge inexcusable problem. Pennsylvania, you have a problem.
You knew it years ago, so the fact that you haven't solved it means that the electoral majority
there in Pennsylvania in the state government doesn't want to solve this problem. You know who you are.
Now moving across the country, time zone by time zone, another key swing state is Michigan.
And at least by sometime tonight, we are likely to know the vote in Michigan. And that can be
hoped for. At least authorities in Michigan are indicating they think the ballots are mostly going
to be tabulated and reported sometime tonight. And so as you look at Michigan, in the state,
that sense, it's to be compared with the state of Wisconsin, a neighboring fellow swing state,
also very important to this election, but authorities there are saying that it is unlikely they
will have any kind of final numbers tonight. It's more likely that they'll be coming in tomorrow,
if not later. Again, that's a problem, but at least they're not saying it's going to be a week
from now. As you move across the country, again, it matters how folks vote in Alabama and
Mississippi, but you know that already. Both campaigns know how that's going to turn out.
And you also look at states such as Illinois. It hasn't gone Republican statewide for a presidential
election in some time. You can go further out and find some similar states. Of course, you get to
the West Coast, and there you are, Washington, Oregon, California, deep, deep, Democratic blue.
So one of the fun things you can do as a Christian family or as Christian friends gather together is
you can get a map, you can put state by state the number of electoral votes, and as the results
come in and as the map becomes clarified, you can have the fun of watching how the American
presidential election system works. Of course, there are other races. We're going to have to be
paying a lot of attention to the House races, not only because of the importance of a House race
to an individual congressional district, but because control of the House is so vitally important
and both parties are vying for it. Same in the United States Senate, although it looks at least
at this point like Republicans have an advantage, and at least unofficially, Republican authorities
are indicating that they hope for 53 Republican seats in the Senate. That could turn out to be
vitally important, regardless of whether Vice President Kamala Harris or former President Donald Trump
is elected president. If Donald Trump is elected to another term, having a Republican majority
in the Senate is going to be absolutely key, absolutely crucial to getting his appointments
through and other presidential matters, including treaties as well. When it comes to the House of Representatives,
as I said, the financial power of the House is just absolutely massive. So we're going to be watching
that, of course, state by state. There are other issues. Of course, there are several governorships that
are on the line. The more important from a Christian worldview perspective is going to be looking at
the 10 states in which you will have a statewide vote on a matter related to abortion. In most cases,
a proposed amendment to the state constitution liberalizing abortion laws so much is at stake here.
Human life and human dignity are at stake here, so we're going to be watching those results
very, very closely. Sadly, the pro-abortion movement believes that it is in the lead in at least
nine of those ten states. The one state in which it might not be in the lead in terms of
really believing it can go over the line is the state of Florida, where a very bad proposal
about a constitutional amendment is on the line, and it probably has majority support, at least
according to polling, but it requires a 60% vote in order to successfully amend the Constitution,
and we can certainly hope and pray it does not reach that. So, okay, so you're putting together
your map of the states, you're assigning the electoral count, you're looking at the big questions,
you have the 10 states that are looking at abortion measures. You're going to be following all of this
through the night. Some of the results will be known tonight. Some of them will not, and that can be
frustrating, but we're all in the same situation. We're going to have to wait and see as the votes
come in. And honestly, we're going to have to watch how it's all done because there are huge issues
at stake, huge voting counts at stake. But we are talking about state by state. And one of the big
issues of discussion we need to turn to now is the fact that there are so many people saying that we
need to end the electoral college. We need to change the way we elect presidents of the United States
and move as a democracy towards direct democracy with every single vote just adding up to a popular
vote and thus whoever wins the majority of the popular vote becomes president. Okay, we don't do it
that way. Why not? Well, in order to understand this, we need to go back to the Articles of
Confederation and the young government of the colonies trying to work together in a national sense
under that document. One of the limitations of the document, by the way, the nation was
not going to be able to move forward under that constitutional system, simply because the Articles of
Confederation produced a very weak federal government, too weak for the nation to be able to continue to
grow. It was already facing a debt crisis. It had no one who could make the really hard decisions.
That would require an executive, and there was no strong executive under the Articles of Confederation.
So for that reason, a group began to meet planning for a potential new constitution and a new
constitutional order for the United States. They met at first under extreme secrecy. But the discussion
about the possibility of a new constitutional order began to gain momentum, and those who had locked
themselves away were locked into some very hot controversies, questions, and constitutional quandaries.
So, okay, one of the first questions is, do you have a strong chief executive? And the answer was yes
and no, because the last thing Americans wanted, if you go back to that period in our founding era,
last thing they wanted was to overthrow a king only in order to end up with another. And so they wanted an
elected executive. And eventually, of course, we came up with the three separate branches of government,
but there were battling impulses that simply had to be met. And some of this was, do we want a really
strong government or do we want a government at the federal level that's just strong enough? Well,
the articles of Confederation produced a government that clearly wasn't strong enough. But the last thing
they wanted was a unitary federal government in which every power would eventually end up in federal
hands. They didn't want that either. And so they wanted a government that would work. And that eventually
produced the three branches of government, as we know today, the legislative branch, that's Congress.
But that was also controversial because is this a chamber of, say, slow action and deliberation,
or is it a fully representative body in which you have something like direct democracy,
and the answer is, well, it ended up both. The settlement was both. We have the House of Representatives
and you have the Senate. The House of Representatives from the beginning was a popularly elected body.
That is to say, voters vote directly for members of Congress. They do so by congressional district.
But in the beginning, the Senate was not popularly elected. Members of the Senate were instead elected by state legislatures.
That was changed through constitutional amendment. And now members of the United States Senate are also elected by direct.
democracy, direct democratic vote, a winning plurality, if not majority of votes in the respective states.
But then that leaves you. You have an appointed judiciary. You have an elected House, direct
representation. You have an elected Senate, now also directly elected by the people of the
respective states. But what do you do with the presidency? How do you end up with an executive branch?
And how do you make sure that it has enough power, but not too much power? But what about the big
states and the smaller states. They both have an interest and the big states need the small states
in order to have a union, but the small states, they've got to avoid being extinguished by the big
states. And so that's why you end up with every state having two members of the United States
Senate regardless of population and why you have the house seats apportioned by population. And that
based upon respective 10-year cycles in the U.S. census. So that's why a state like California with a really
large population has over 50 congressional seats, whereas the states of Wyoming, South Dakota,
Vermont, Delaware, and Alaska each have three. That means two senators and one representative.
So you are looking at a situation in which every state has two senators, but they have
differing numbers of members of the House depending on population. So those five states actually
have one more senator than they have members of the House because their population only sustains
one member of the house for the entire state, but every state gets two senators. And guess what?
That means that many people in a state like California say that's not fair, because California
has a population of 39 million, whereas, say, a state like Wyoming has a population of 586,000,
but they each have two senators. Well, that was the arrangement that was reached in the constitutional
negotiation so that the big states would also with the small states enter into a common compact. They have
Two seats, every single one of the states, two seats in the Senate, the upper house, and they have seats in the lower house, which are assigned by proportionate population.
When it comes to the electoral college, the election of presidents of the United States, the big question was, well, which way is it going to be?
And the answer was both.
The settlement was eventually reached.
There were those who were arguing for the direct election of presidents of the United States simply by majority vote, the same way you elect, say, a congressman, you would elect a congressman.
you would elect a president. The states would be all just grouped together in one national vote
and whichever candidate gets the most votes would be president. But that is a very dangerous situation.
But hold that thought for just a moment. The other idea was that Congress or some very small group
would elect a president because after all, you don't want the wrong person getting into that office.
And so the eventual settlement that led to the Constitution as ratified called for,
presidents to be elected by electors.
They would be gathered in what was known as the Electoral College.
And at the level of the Electoral College, apportioned by the total number of congressional seats
plus the two senatorial seats, that would mean that state would have X number of electoral
college votes.
The Electoral College would be the combination of those votes in such a way that whoever
gained a majority, and right now that means the winning candidate has to have 270
electoral votes. That's 435 seats in the House of Representatives plus 100 seats in the United States
Senate plus three seats in the Electoral College, three votes in the Electoral College assigned to the
District of Columbia. So that's 538 if you're doing the math. The candidate who gets to 270 is the
candidate who's going to win. Now, why is that better than the direct election of a president? You've got
people who are calling for it. Erwin Chimorinsky recently published a book.
entitled No Democracy Last Forever. He's the dean of the law school at the University of California
at Berkeley, very liberal figure. And over and over again, when he talks about the need for a change
in our Constitution, he refers to the founders having a, quote, strong distrust of democracy.
And to quote, well, indeed, there's a strong distrust of direct democracy. That is to say,
whoever gets the most votes is just elected to office regardless of what the office is,
and regardless of how the electoral system is put together. One of the big problems in the founding of the
United States is that many people had absolutely no way of knowing much of anything about the
candidates themselves, certainly a candidate for president of the United States. By the time the
constitutional order was put together with the Electoral College as a backup protection, the necessity
that the winner of the presidency must win a majority in the Electoral College meant that there had to
be some security that this person could well serve as president of the United States.
And that takes us back to the fact that the man around whom
so many of this was arranged. Certainly the model of the first president was George Washington.
And there were those who voted for the eventual constitutional order with the Electoral College,
believing that George Washington might be the first and last president elected by that kind of vote,
whereas in other cases, the failure to secure a majority in the Electoral College would mean that the
election would be thrown to the House of Representatives. And the idea was maybe that's the way it
should work. Well, the reality is electoral college has changed somewhat. It is now state by state
generally apportioned so that the person who wins the state, that is the presidential election,
if Donald Trump wins the state, he gets all the electoral votes. If Kamala Harris wins the state,
she gets all the electoral votes. Whoever gets to 271st will be declared to be president of the
United States. But there are two states that actually apportioned the electoral college by
congressional district, but only two, and in those states, only two of those seats are really in play.
Going to a direct election of the president of the United States would have some undoubtedly
unintended effects. For one thing, we would lose a very strong constitutional backup, because the way
the Electoral College works, it's not just a plurality of the votes, it is the necessity of a majority
of the votes. And you could say, well, that's one of the reasons why we have a two-party system in
the answer would be yes, that is basically why we have a two-party system, and why when you have
a multi-party election, and you could just go back to the 1990s, think Ross Perot, that becomes a
complicating factor. But no one outside of those two parties has won the presidency since the
emergence of the modern party system, period. And our constitutional order, with the one exception
of the nation of Iceland, in terms of modern nations, the United States has the longest
serving intact constitutional document. And that's because I believe its strengths are so apparent.
The Electoral College, I believe, is a strength in eliminating the Electoral College and moving to
something like what will be called direct democracy and electing presidents means that
you will have much more volatility. For one thing, you would sense that there must be a
requirement to have a majority, not merely a plurality. So in this kind of system, you would
likely have more than two candidates because why not in virtually every system where this kind of
open system pertains, you do have multiple candidates. And that means that it is less likely at any time
that you would have someone win an absolute majority, but you don't want a chief executive that
doesn't have the election by a majority. So you would probably have to have a runoff. Can you imagine
voting today and then coming back, say, a month from now to have to do it all over again? I don't
want that either. One of the reasons you hear some people say,
that they would like to replace the electoral college is, well, they say, look at the electoral map right now.
You are talking about seven swing states. Look at where the two campaigns have been spending most of their time.
It's not going to be in a state, not on the swing state list. You're not going to see these folks down in Florida.
It's going to go Republican. You don't see them in a state like Mississippi. It's going to go Republican.
You don't see them in a state like Massachusetts. It's going to go Democratic. Same thing.
Would you look at some other states? They're going where there's a state like Mississippi.
opportunity to decisively change the electorate and to win. And you say, like the governor of Kentucky
recently said, Andy Bashir, a Democrat, he said he wants to call for the elimination of the electoral
college because Kentucky's being slighted. And Kentucky is being slighted. There's virtually no reason
for either of the campaigns to come here. Donald Trump won in Kentucky by a massive two-digit margin
in 2016 and in 2020. There's a reason why the vote in Kentucky's really not in
question. The governor of Kentucky was more or less saying it's not fair that the candidates are spending
so much time in this limited number of swing states. If you got rid of the electoral college and went to a
popular vote, they'd have to campaign in all 50 states. And the answer to that is, no, that's ridiculous.
The exact opposite would happen. If all the candidates have to do is to pile up numbers, then they're
going to do so where the numbers are. You're not going to see them in Kentucky ever. Kiss that idea,
goodbye. Instead, what you will see is the major party candidates without the Electoral College spending
all their time in the regions of massive population. They're also going to be spending time
in regions where you would have economical media saturation. They're going to be spending time
where the voters are and the fishing is good. And that means that the state's complaining about
being neglected now would be even more neglected then. I do think it's interesting that most of the
people who want to get rid of the electoral college are coming from the political left. And you can
pretty much predict this. It is because they are frustrated at the Constitution in many ways.
They don't like the Senate either. And so many of the same people calling for an end to the electoral
college are calling for an end to the proportionate representation in the Senate. It's not fair
that Wyoming has two senators and California has two senators. Well, yes, it is fair because otherwise
no one would care what anyone in Wyoming thinks. No insult to people in Wyoming. I'm
pulling for you, brothers. One of the greatest recent defenses of the Electoral College was offered by
the late U.S. Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan. He was a Democrat, and he made a really impassioned
defense of the U.S. Constitution and of the Electoral College in a speech he gave on the floor of the
Senate. He said this, quote, the single great problem that republics have always dealt with is, as he said,
quote, how to persuade persons in power to leave power, end quote. He pointed to our constitutional
system, and he pointed to the value of the electoral college. He warned that destroying it and eliminating
it would lead to the fracturing of the United States of America. He concluded by saying this, quote,
I hope the day does not come when tearing the Constitution asunder. We effectively diminish the
role of the President of the United States to a man or woman so narrow in his or her base that the
opportunity to continue in office, the desire to do so, because of the intensity of factions there that
brought the person there in the first place, and the narrowness of base that threatens that
incumbency proceed to animate in the presidency the most unpresidential and anti-Republican of
temptations. Senator Moynihan eloquently concluded, we have prospered and endured. Let us hope we
shall continue to do so. There is work of plenty before our public councils. Let us get on
with that work and leave the Constitution be." In other words, Senator Moynihan said,
you don't like the Electoral College, then get rid of it. But once you get rid of it, you're
immediately going to want it back. Well, we're going to see the Constitution at play in a map of the
Electoral College. Well, today, in likely for some days to come. Big issues are at stake, and we know it.
And so today, I have to end the briefing by saying, not only should Christians think about these
things in a way that is truly Christian, we need as Christians to pray for the fate and the future
of our nation. And no day is that more pressing than today. Thanks for listening to the briefing.
For more information, go to my website at Albertmohler.com. You can film me on Twitter or X by going
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