The Charlie Kirk Show - AmFest 2025 Day 2

Episode Date: December 19, 2025

In true Charlie fashion, the show team continures his tradtion of hosting live from AmFest media row, joined by Steve Bannon, Jack Posobiec, Mike Cernovich, Graham Allen, and the sons of a pastor currently facing prison in Korea for his political activism. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You've got to stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as much.

many kids as possible. Go start a turning point you would say college chapter. Go start a turning point you would say high school chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade. Most important decision I ever made in my life and I encourage you to do the same. Here I am.

Lord, use me. Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by Preserve Gold. leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends, and viewers. Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie. All right, everybody. Let's just do this for two hours.

I don't want to stop you. I don't want to stop you because that's amazing. That was the best I felt in three months. We are live from America Fest 2025, and we are doing it in Charlie Kirk's honor. This is a tradition of America Fest, and we are keeping it alive. And I want to look to my right here. The great Steve Bannon is joining us as his tradition. Steve and I were texting last night, and I was like, Steve, you know we have to do it. We have to do it, and your instant response was, yeah, because that's what me and Charlie did.

We have to keep it going. So thank you for doing it. No, thanks for having us, and we just love being on Real America's voice and do the transition to you guys every day, every day of the week. Steve, while we have you, I want to ask you a question. What does America Fest mean? Why is it important that we gather like that? It's always been important.

The Student Action Summit in the summer, America Fest, the end of the year. It's always been important. This year, obviously, not simply the assassination, but everything Charlie stood for. We've got the toughest year. I went back in the first show. We won in 16, we lost, the only time he lost is 18, we won in 20, we won in 22, we won in 24. We are on a roll, and Charlie Kirk knew better than anybody what it took to win. Look what he did in 22 midterms.

Look what he did in 2024. We've got the hardest year is in front of us, because as soon as the economy starts to turn around, these people are demonic. And what they're going to do is come with more political violence, more of their madness, the craziness. Charlie Cook knew that. That's why he went to the lion, the lion's den every day of the week. The guy was a hero, a patriot, and one of the greatest Americans, not just of this generation, but any generation. That's why I think Amfest. And look, there's over 30,000 people and everybody's very enthusiastic. I think 70% of the people have never been to an Amfest before. So this shows you the power of this movement.

Yeah, you're right. And in honor, Charlie's honor, I want to play a clip from Charlie at this exact location last year, December 2024, play cut 223. Young men are the most conservative they have been in over 50 years. 50 years. Think about that.

Now, a reporter asked me, they said, Charlie, can you try to explain this phenomenon? I said, yeah, it's very simple. Young men want to be part of a political movement that doesn't hate them. In fact, let me go a step further, that thinks they're essential to a future of a country. That we need strong men and strong women.

That we're sick and tired of hearing about toxic masculinity when we are drowning in toxic femininity. That's the great Charlie Kirk, everybody. The great Charlie Kirk. We miss him every day. Steve, there's going to be a lot. There's already been a lot of ink spilled. You know, Maga Civil War, Conservative Civil War, obviously we had a pretty spicy opening night. What do you think is the most important, like, theme, the through line that we need to hit, also from the main stage, but amongst the people in the crowd, people at the breakouts.

What's the theme here? Look, we're always going to have differences. Some of these differences are big. They're important. They've got to be worked out. But as Charlie Kirk knew better than anybody, there is no substantive. for victory, right? We've got to keep, if we lose

the midterms, the entire revolution is going to get ground down. Charlie Kirk knew, this is what Amfest, the theme of this was going to be driving forward, what we have to do to drive forward with victory, in the case of there are going to be some people in this movement that fundamentally disagree

on some pretty basic stuff. We got to work those things out, and it's going to be worked out, okay? It's going to be worked out, but that can't take our eye off the ball of what Charlie Kirk taught us, right? Charlie Kirk taught us victory, victory, victory, and that's what

we've got to focus on this year. Jack, same question to you, because I know that you're going to be thrown into the Lions Den here, you're going to be, you know, you're going to get that same question. What do you talk about? Exactly. This is my point for everybody out there. Fear not when you see

those headlines, because conservatives we're a rowdy bunch, we're a raucous bunch. We want to disagree in public. And by the way, if they try and tell you that some consensus has been reached on an issue without this public debate without having it out, we're not going to believe it anyways. The kids aren't going to believe it anyways. They're going to call garbage on it. They're not going to believe it, and we're not going to have a consensus, and we're going to be further behind than we were. So we need to do this sometimes. We need to have

these disagreements. Don't let yourself be trouble. Trust me. Jack, you're going to be up there. You're going to be having some of these disagreements. What is your message for Amfest 2025? For the record, I'm working on a little secret operation that be revealed at a later time this weekend. So I'm not just sitting in a way, some logistic issues that we're dealing with for something that I think everybody is going to be very interested in finding out tomorrow. And that's really all I can leave it at that. Oh, come on, Jack. No, no, no, no, no, no. Sworn in secrecy. Sworn in secrecy. Operational security.

Bannon, you know about OPSEC. You need operational security on this one. But I don't want to say, I'm not being rude. I'm taking care of something. Look. Look. The division that you are seeing now is very clear. The division that they're bringing up, the messages they're saying, and it's very simple.

The 2028 primary has already begun. It's already begun. This is a proxy war for people who are trying to prop up people for the 2028 primary. So I say, if that's what you're really doing, then cut. to the chase. Be a man. Tell us the truth. Tell us what you really want. And let's do a little poll. Why don't we do a little poll since we're here and we've got so many people. Charlie loved to do the AB testing. Remember? We love to do this when we had a big crowd. So let's see. Who out there wants Ted Cruz to be the nominee in 28? All right. All right, all right. How about Governor Ron DeSantis?

how about Nikki Haley How about Stephen K. Bannon? Steve, the Supreme Court does say that we'll see, we'll see, we'll see, but

all right, all right, hold on, hold on, hold on, I've got my candidate, and he's a convict, too. Donald Trump! All right, and last question, last question, last question while we're here. How about Vice President J.D. Vance? All right, so that's the straw poll that I'm going with. That's where we're at. And if you want to support a different candidate, we have a free country.

You're free to do so. But I'm sick of the name calling and the ankle biting. be a man and tell me what you're about yeah well said jack well said jack steve we got one minute left here i want you to you you say whatever he's on your mind steve you got one minute left here first of all i'm so proud of you guys of how you continue the tradition of charlie kirk it have been it had been so easy for erika and andrew and you and you and you and you guys to just throw it in throw in the towel and say hey you know we can't do this we want to unwind it It's bigger. It's more powerful. It's more focused. It's more necessary for the country of what Amphus is doing, not just for young people, but for all people.

You guys, it's upon your shoulders that President Trump won the 2024 election. And we've got a lot of other tough fights to go. I couldn't think of anybody better than this team to lead Amfest, to lead a turning point, and just let's go forth and conquer. Well said We can't wait for your speech tonight It's going to be a barn burner We know it So everybody's going to go to Steve's speech Right tonight

I promise I promise I'm coming a little hot We I think he just promised another spicy meatball So we're going to find out We're going to throw it to the great Ben Berkwam who's talking with folks in the crowd Ben what you got for us Hey we've got an amazing crowd

Been waiting through war room now here a Charlie Kirk show. Tell us your name. Where are you from? And really significant why this mean, why Amfest and Turning Point means so much to you. Yes, my name is Wendy Huang and I'm running for Congress. And the reason I'm here today is because Charlie Kirk is one that inspired me in January 2021 and saying, you know, he was a young man. I was so inspiring saying, hey, get involved locally. And, you know, just start doing something. And then don't yell at the TV and get involved. So that's what I did. So I started attending city council meetings, and then I went for city council. I fought successfully against the cannabis in my district and also restore medical freedom for college students during COVID.

And now I'm going to run for Congress. So we'll keep fighting and make this, make America golly again and make America greatest again. And keep the light on because when light shines, darkness disappears. So I need a lot of help, a lot of prayers. How can people do that? Wendy Huang for Congress.com. Help Wendy Win, win with Wendy. Thank you.

If you don't know where my district is, it's Eric Swalvo's district. Oh, God bless you. The Belly of the Beast. All right, speaking of California, of course here to honor Charlie Kirk. I volunteer at Reform California, and we need everybody in California

to pay attention to that. I'm also here to lobby to President Trump, it can't be the golden age without the golden state. And we need President Trump to come to California and to work with whoever the candidate is

for governor and let's win California back. Otherwise, it's almost too late. I mean, that's where we're at. And furthermore, I agree with Mr. Ben and what's going to happen, the people of America are going to see and have already seen, but they're going to really see as this next year evolves, and I don't think we'll have a problem, but we can't sit on our laurels.

We're going to keep fighting every day. How many people are local Arizonans? How many are from California? I was getting some California. Give me a shout. Give me a shout. How many are from the East Coast? There we go. I hate Caleb and Michelle. How many are from the Midwest? How many are from the Dakotas?

Hey, I see a hand. All right, we got one. Hey, how many first-timers? I could not believe that. Look at that. We've got, I think it's between 70% and 80% first-timers. Unbelievable. Yeah, which is unbelievable.

And when you throw these kind of events, you understand how remarkable that truly is. We're joined by Graham Allen. Give it up for Graham Allen. everyone. Yeah, baby. Boy. Graham, you've been phenomenal after everything that happened with Charlie. You're going to be speaking on the main stage.

Your channel's blown up. Tell us what this means to you to be here in Charlie's honor. It means everything to be here in Charlie's honor to see what it's turned into, to see from being there in the very early days with Charlie, seeing the vision, everything, and then seeing all these amazing people. let's give it up for charlie one more time come on everybody let's go um i do have the honor of speaking tomorrow night which i think it's funny that you guys put me on faith night to try to like calm me down on what i might say on the stage and that's jesus night graham you've got to be you've got to be

if you've ever seen a graham allen rant uh you can understand why we played that the way we played it yes yes so i'll take this opportunity just to say i agree with uh steve very much you know just like we were talking about, the thing about our movement is this. I was talking with the vice president not too long ago, and the vice president even said, the greatest thing about our side that differentiates us from the left is we do have open dialogue, we do have debate, and sometimes we fight, and sometimes those fights are nasty, sometimes those fights are there,

but at least you know we don't operate in this hive mind mentality that somebody can call down from the top, and then everybody falls in line. here's what I'm going to say. These are conversations that need to be had. These are fights that need to be had to the people that do what we do that are afraid and give these blanket statements instead of calling out what they mean, who they're talking about, why they disagree, and their evidence for why they disagree about it. It's time to stand up, be men and women, stand in the principles of which you believe, and have the fight, have the dialogue in open space and then let the American people decide where they stand and then that's how we

win. Charlie would be the first person to say that these conversations need to happen because he was mission first mentality. And the mission is to make heaven crowded and how do we make heaven crowded? We keep America the freest, most generous, most prosperous nation in the world free so we can spread the good news of Jesus Christ every single day because that's the ultimate goal in this country and that's the mission that we have to fight all right so for the well said graham for those of you who may not know yet blake neff is a student of history he's a student of political philosophical religious history european history don't get him started blake when you're talking about the history of coalitions what are we facing right now is this normal in in at the top levels of political

coalition building it's it's happened but it hasn't really happened with our party in this way before And I think, I mean, we owe it to Charlie. I always, when I started working for him, I'd roll my eyes. He'd say he was going to change the youth vote. He was going to win them back. Okay, Charlie, that's a very great goal of yours. And he made me look like a huge idiot. I remember spring 24, we're suddenly having campus events.

And there's 2,000, 3,000, 5,000 people showing up to them. And they all love him. And I never thought I would see that happen. And he proved that I just read a bunch of books, but I don't really know what I'm talking about. Well, he proved a lot of people wrong. I will tell you, he was told for 12 years. You guys know the story of Charlie Kirk, right? Twelve years he was building Turning Point, and they told him it was a fool's errand

that he was just trying to griff to win the youth vote, and the man never gave up. He fought, and he fought, and he fought, and he fought, and he went right into the belly of the beast, right onto those college campuses, and he would have the debates, he would have the dialogues. He would do exactly what people told him would never happen. He made the most historic and dramatic, coalitional difference in 2024. We won the youth vote in Michigan. We won it in Arizona.

We almost won it in Wisconsin. We almost won it in Pennsylvania. And by the way, where he would visit, there was a statistical change that you saw. He would go to a college campus in Center County. Where's Cliff Maloney? I just saw him in a second. Went to Center County,

and they had never seen anything like that at Penn State. And Jack Posovic was there with him. They saw something like a 14. or 15 point swing in the youth vote, just because he took the time to believe in Gen Z. And that's ultimately what this event is about, folks. We are not giving up on the youngest Americans. We believe that their hearts and minds can be one. They can buy in to the American dream.

That's right. Give us, give it up. Gen Z, you should do not turn your back on Gen Z, folks. Believe in them. They can do it. They are smarter than people give them credit for. Graham, I know you know this. Blake, you now know this.

If you're tired of watching this country drift away from the values that made it great, it's time to get involved. That's why I stand with AMAC, the Association of Mature American Citizens. Charlie loved this country, and he loved partnering with organizations that truly stand for what makes America great. One of our most trusted partners, Amac, the Association of Mature American Citizens, is doing something special in Charlie's honor. Amac is offering free memberships to all ages, no credit card, no strings attached, just a chance to stand for faith, family. Family and Freedom. Join this movement. Go to amac.us slash Charlie today. That is amac.us. forward slash Charlie today. God bless you guys. We are here in Charlie's honor in his memory. Who wants a hat, by the way,

out there. Who wants a hat? These guys got some two. You better throw them out. I need enthusiasm. There it is, John. Watch your heads. Watch your heads. Oh, you got it. And by the way, the great... I'll let you go get it. Here's the great Andy Biggs. We are here partly in support of Andy Biggs. Governor, the next governor of the great state of Arizona. Biggs, Governor, right here.

So we got that right there. So I'm just going to leave that up as a prop here. Ben, what you got for us out there in the crowd? Well, we got some young guys. I'm going to come over here. I'm just working my way around the crowd. We got some questions and some comments. What's your name?

Where you from? What's your question? My name is Rod Wyatt. And of course Charlie is irreplaceable, but if there was one individual that's taken up the cross, maybe better than anyone else, that you see with this amazing future, could you just name that one individual? Who would that be? I mean, that's a tough question, but I will say that, you know, I think J.D. Vance, obviously, he's the vice president, so it's a little different. But I can just tell you that he has, Charlie was a huge believer in the political

talent, the moral clarity, the intelligence of J.D. Vance, and I think he's really stepped into the void and waited into conversations. They didn't have to, but he's doing it for the sake of the movement, for the sake of the country. And so I give him a lot of credit for what he's done. I love Allie Best Stuckey, by the way. She's my book. Oh, Ali, Ali's the best. Oh, yeah, she's the best. We actually have her, we're going to be doing an interview with Ali and the members-only lounge, so that's going to be really cool. Members.Charliecirk.com if you want to join our members community. And we're doing live Longhorn podcast with Alice.

She's amazing. She's phenomenal. Totally agree. And this is really what it's all about, the next generation. These guys, what's your name? Where are you from? And what does Charlie mean to you? What is his legacy and MFest in particular? Well, hi, guys.

It's really nice to meet you. I'm excited to be here. My name's Riley Raybert. My friend and I started a turning point chapter at our school in Birmingham, Alabama. And we're excited to be here to honor his legacy and carry it on and get connected with the next generation. I'm Cooper Ray Berg. I'm the president of that chapter, and it's just been amazing seeing how since Charlie's tragically passed, how everybody's been unified and wanting to get involved and meet people and talk about really, really hard things. That's just been great. I'm Benjamin Meyer and I'm kind of like the social media admin and like he said it's been great to see how the movement has kind of unified over his death and mobilized.

Yeah. Can you guys give us an insight? This is something I don't know, maybe you guys have seen this with your own families, your own, what happened with Charlie? People don't understand what this meant to Gen Z, to high schoolers, college kids. Tell us what it was like on campus in those immediate days afterwards. So it kind of was split. There were some people who were really kind of, I don't know, they were really motivated by it, but some other people were not so, and kind of seemed almost to rejoice in his death. To rejoice, he said, in his death. So you had, I mean, a clear divide of good versus evil, no doubt about it. It was really quite polarizing, because he was my hero, he was a lot of our heroes. And the fact that something like that can happen in an open debate forum, and then the fact that you can see it everywhere is terrible. So it was just really, really heartbreaking for all of us that were huge fans of him. Yeah, thanks guys for saying that. Yeah, for Gen Z, this was their JFK moment.

And I mean, so if you have Gen Z people in your family, in your community, they're still processing it. And I really want you guys to internalize that. It's a huge deal. Graham, when you hear young people talk like that, and when you realize, when you see the good versus evil, I don't know, when I'm listening to that, it's crystallizing for me. Yeah, we're going to have our squabbles here, but we've got bigger fights, bigger fish to fry, if you will.

Yeah, I think everybody, I mean, everybody knew how powerful and impactful Charlie was. I think every one of us, especially those of us that are parents, my own children coming up to me, you know, I knew that, they knew who Charlie was because we've worked with Charlie and turning point for so long, but seeing my own children crying because they were watching Charlie all the time, and I had no idea. Charlie had such an impact on our younger generations that even us as parents were kind of ablutious to learning about Jesus through Charlie Kirk, which is the ultimate thing. That's the biggest thing that Charlie wanted to do all the time was introduce our Lord and

Savior to not just our next generation, but the current generation. Charlie knew everything about everything, it seemed. Charlie was a Rolodex all the time. The impact that he made, the once-in-a-generation person that Charlie Kirk was, I think that we're going to feel it for generations to come. And I truly believe that if we can get this infighting out of the way and these squabbles out of the way, we still have the chance that Charlie talked about to be and have America prosper for the next millennia if we do it the right way and we get it done the right way.

Well, that's why Amfest is the time it is. It's at the end of the year. It's right before Christmas. And we talk about the debates we're having. This is the time to have those. You have them at the end of the year before you have to gird up for the next election cycle. And Charlie knew that. He always wanted the focus on.

Get the wins. Get the agenda passed. don't destroy yourselves within fighting. If we're arguing the way we sometimes argue in October, it's very bad. Do it in December and be united by October. It's a good point. This is the time to have these fights, guys. So again, if you find yourself getting uncomfortable in your seat, don't let it.

Embrace it, embrace the struggle. This has to happen, and it's going to be ultimately healthy and better in the long run. Graham Allen, tell us where people can follow you, tell the folks where people can follow you, get involved with what you're doing. Just, yeah, anywhere, Graham Allen, you can look. for it. It's terrible news. Good news. It depends on your perspective. Thanks for having me. It's an honor to stand here. God bless you. God bless you. Graham Allen.

All right. Welcome me up. Our next guest, we're doing a little hot swap here. And that is Savannah Hernandez, Monica Page, from our TPSA Frontlines team. We love Sam. Sav is a must follow. Who here is a little frustrated with our immigration policies? Yeah, count me in on that one, Andrew. Yeah, Ben, I know you are.

SAV is probably the most, I think, really, the most important immigration reporter in the country, and I really mean that. You go into these protests, you go into really dark and seedy places, you cover what's really happening on the ground. It's something Charlie really believed in. He propped up this whole front-lines journalism, this guerrilla journalism division within Turning Point. Because you've got to understand, there's not money for this, folks. You know, other groups, we love them. They're around here on Media Road. They don't have the money to send reporters all over the country to do this kind of thing.

It has to be nonprofit. It has to be donor-led. And so these are some of the fruits of that labor of what you guys, when you support Turning Point do. Sab, tell them what your daily routine. You don't have a daily routine. Tell them about some of the work that you're working on right now. Sure. So I just want to say that, you know, if it wasn't for Charlie, I wouldn't have the ability to go do this, like you said.

And it's been such an incredible year for Frontlines because the administration has been listening to everything we have been putting out. We actually were able to go into an Antifa roundtable where we had the ear of the president and we were able to sit down with him and talk to him about everything that we've reported as it pertains to left-wing violence. And then on top of that, I was in New York actually reporting on Canal Street because Frontlines, T.U.S.A. sends me all across the nation from both the west coast to the east coast. and I was reporting on this huge street of illegal immigrants that had a black market. A couple days later, ICE went and they raided that area and they deported nine illegal immigrants from that, from that straight. So the administration very much watching our work, the admin very much paying attention to the independent journalist that Charlie initially saw the value in before anybody else did. I've been working with you guys now for three, almost four years. We've, you know, brought in hundreds of millions of views on our own.

Yeah, the views, guys, truly, we get so much viral content out of this because you, the people want it, you're hungry for it, the truth. Ben, you're also very good at this guerrilla journalism stuff. I want to give you a lot of hat tips right there. Yeah, give it up for Ben as well. He's been covered. It's a team effort, baby. Derry and GAAP and doing all this stuff. So, yeah, but the number of views, like, you know, you get, I feels like every week you've got a,

another post with like a couple million views about, you know, some immigration thing, Antifa thing. I mean, how much of that is your motivation? Are you just, how do you pick your stories, I guess, is the question. I mean, we're following the news cycle. Luckily for me, the mainstream media does a horrific job at actually telling the American people the truth. So we're basically just focusing in on everything that they are ignoring and the American people love it. And we are here to serve you guys. And so the reason we're getting the viewership that we are, The reason why Frontlines has been able to be so successful is because the American people want to see this. The American people want to know what's going on, and it's been very, very successful.

So, again, every single day I am grateful to Charlie because he saw the value in independent journalists like myself before anybody else did. He invested in us. He made sure that we were able to tell the truth about what was going on in the streets of America as it pertains to illegal immigration. And we were able to, because we were able to show Americans that, get him, you know, into the White House, essentially, or show Americans, you know, which way to vote, essentially, in terms of, you know, how they wanted America to be, exactly, exactly. So we have been growing this team. We have now nine reporters on the front lines team, and one of those newer editions, what, wait, like a year and a half now, year and a half, Monica Page, everybody, White House correspondent, White House correspondent, so she lives in the, we set this term a few times, the belly of her. You live in the swamp, but you are doing a great job covering the White House. You get to ask the president questions, and then you cover local protests and stuff.

What has it been like to be in the Trump White House? Give the folks at home and the people watching here an idea of how much things have changed in Trump 2.0. It's been a night and day difference. For the last year and a half, I covered the previous administration, the Joe Biden White House, where I was very limited to the amount of access that I could get. I was not allowed in the Oval Office where, now I'm allowed in the Oval Office with the President, I wasn't allowed to ask the questions in the press briefing room because I was never called on. Now I'm in the new media seat.

I'm standing along the sides of the press briefing room, asking the questions, getting called on, having those personal one-on-one meetings with press secretary Caroline Levitt. It's been absolutely insane. The access that we're getting, we've been in the North Lawn, South Lawn, East Room, Roosevelt Room, Air Force One. I had the privilege of traveling with President Trump to Charlie's Funeral Memorial Service in Arizona. that was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. And honestly, it made me pretty emotional because I knew that if it wasn't for Turning Point USA,

if it wasn't for Charlie Kirk, I don't think I would have had this opportunity. So I am so grateful to be there, not only for Turning Point USA and Frontlines, but on behalf of you, the American people, because I'm asking your questions. I'm not asking my network or my mainstream media establishment questions.

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you got for us out there oh we got an amazing group here speaking of people that have escaped communism i'm going to go over here with my friend from california camifornia tell us tell us what your name is where you're from this matters to you my name is galena i came 1997 from california i'm sorry from former soviet union to california state, very wrong politicians. We cannot wait to get the you know the worst governor in United States. And we're praying. There are a lot of mega patriots in California. We're praying. We're praying and we're doing action, action, action. Love Steve Bannon. That's why it's a beautiful

state. We have to save it. And I came legally. It took me, I got my citizenship 2008. I had to study and I had to pass my test and I'm a very proud American and I am ultra mega thing and you know this is the difference legal immigration versus illegal immigration the left conflates the two they try to blend the two but there's a difference the the ultra mega legal immigrants that come here and want to make that want to assimilate into America versus the illegals that want to destroy America it's my first time here and Erica said yesterday 80% of people came first time.

And I'm extremely happy to be this epic. It's an epic. And Charlie Kirk, what I was shocked, when we went to Chinah Hills, he was there. It was so packed. We couldn't get to the main building. We were on the second building. What I was impressed, it was first time I saw him in person. His knowledge, that young age Bible, how he knew Bible.

That was shocking for me. I'm Orthodox Christian. Then he came to San Clemente to our Calvary Chapel. And I have book, Thrin, Mega, and he wrote Galena Mega. So my immigration policy is I will let in anybody that's Ultra Mega. Ultra. Yeah, everybody else, I'm not, you know, we don't need. We're full.

31,000 patriots have come gathering here at the Phoenix Convention Center in Phoenix, Arizona. We are all about action, action, action. We are telling the truth. We're sending reporters out in the field. We are joined by Savannah Hernandez and Monica Page, our White House correspondent. You also cover protests, though, yes? Yeah, I do. We've covered the No Kings protests.

We've covered those Tesla, anti-Tesla protests. It's very interesting scene out there. A lot of them are very organized. It's kind of like organized chaos. Also the pro-Palestine people that come outside the White House from time to time. We pretty much cover it all. If it's there, I'm there. And, Savannah, you were just telling me about an important story.

Guys, I brought up immigration a few times here. Specifically because you're here, Savannah, but also just because I'm passionate about it. You just told me a fact that I was not aware of, and I want everybody to listen very closely to it. Sure. So I was just talking with you about how last week the DHS put out a press release, basically stating that between these sanctuary states of Illinois and New York, they have released 8,700 criminal illegal aliens with prioritized to homicide, assault, burglary, robbery, back out onto the streets of the United States of America.

That's 8,700 violent criminals that have been released back out onto the streets, even though they've got an ICE detainer on them, even though the federal government wants to deport them, these local municipalities are just releasing them back out onto the street. Do we like that? Do we like that? What do we want to do about it? We want to fix that. I will say, I'll never forget Charlie one day. He got so frustrated with this. He looks right at the camera.

He goes, we need to start arresting these mayors. Blake, I know that that is not exactly your tax here, but why can't we do that? Why can't we do that? More and more, I'm not sure why. I just saw there was a story, I think, in Reston, Virginia, where they had a detainer on a man. They let him out, and he committed murder again. After a while, I think you do have to ask, are you just actually an accomplice in, in assaults, in robberies, and homicides at this point? And Blake, if I can jump in as well, going back to these numbers, there's another 11,000.

And keep in mind, too, that these are already illegal aliens. and then they've committed violent crimes against American citizens. They're currently in custody, in state custody, in Illinois and New York. And because these jurisdictions refuse to work with federal agents, they are simply potentially going to be re-releasing all of these people back out onto the streets. Yeah, it's offensive. And you guys are doing a great job. Everybody, please follow TPSA Frontlines, the great Savan Hernandez and Monica Page.

Please check them out. Follow them on socials. Where are you at? How do people find you? Go follow me on X at Sav says. staff says. What about you, Monica? Follow me on X at Monica Page TV, P-A-I-G-E-T-V. That's wonderful.

Okay, guys, what do we think about Erica Kirk? Do we love Erica Kirk or what? Is she doing a great job? She's doing a phenomenal job. When I think about what she's been through and how courageous and brave and the poise and the gracefulness that she has comported herself, I just, it's enough to make you emotional watching it. I want to play something from Erica. This is her bragging on this amazing event that our team has pulled off.

So I want you to hear it from her, in her own words, 332. We have 40 breakout sessions, 178 sponsors, all 50 states represented. We have 25 countries represented plus Puerto Rico, but I have the list here. Don't worry, guys. Egypt is not on the list. Don't worry about that. But, oh, how funny. I say Egypt and my iPad turns on. That's fun. Where were we? Okay. We have, so that's 25 countries, all 50 states, 178 sponsors, 40 breakout sessions, 40 breakout sessions, everybody, and 30. 1,000 patriots from all across the country in the world.

It's amazing. It's amazing. All for Charlie. And here, one more thing from Erica here. Play cut 326. He believed disagreement was something not to be canceled. It was something to confront with clarity, courage, and grace. And Charlie loved truth way more than conformity.

Amen to that. So as you guys go out. into the breakouts, make sure you're plugging in with other organizations, with this organization, signing up, being volunteers, getting out of the field, action, action, action. This is not an event for mere spectators or observers. We want you to be active and get involved every way you can. That's the whole spirit. If you want to honor Charlie, a couple things you can do.

Go to church. Make sure you're going to church. Pray, read your Bible, and get involved to save this country, everybody. So that's what we're dedicating ourselves to. That's why we're here. and we're so grateful to have you all here. So you guys happy to be here. I'm really excited right now.

We are joined right here on this set by two great Americans that many of you probably follow on social media. And of course, that is Michael Cernovich. Mike Cernovich. I'm a wife doing Michael. The great Cernovich. And we, well, hold on. Blake Marnell, otherwise known as Brick Suit.

Brick Suit. Brick suit's in the house. Brick suit. You guys are, you guys are keen of, observers of the political movement, the moment that we exist in right now. And I, you know, I keep referencing the fact that, you know, last night was spicy. It was fun. It was, people were mixing it up.

And so I'm going to play one of these clips here because I think it's important. You know, let's just, let's just do it. Ben Shapiro, he was the second speaker, obviously we had Erica Kirk. It was amazing, amazing intro. By the way, who was in the room for the intro where Charlie introduced Erica Kirk to the stage? I was getting pretty emotional right there. She did an amazing job. But then, you know, some of the fireworks started.

Ben Shapiro started 3-3-4. First off, I should break the Omerita here and just be a little bit clear. The notion that people in our industry are close friends, like we all take holiday breaks with each other and go to each other's kids' graduations and stuff, is generally untrue. Some people do that, most of us don't. But even if it were true that other public figures

were our best friends, our very best friends, that does not relieve us of our duty to speak at. out of principle, and not to cover up evil or shy away from addressing it out of friendship. So no, Tucker Carlson, it is not an excuse to go silent on Candace's targeting of TPUSA. There is only one moral side here, Erica Kirk's side. All right, Mike, I'm going to go to you. We were talking in the break that you had some opinions about this. What do you make of this? Do you get uncomfortable? Are you okay with this? Is it healthy? You know, I think don't do it here at this event.

So for me, I've always been a daily wire respecter. They give people jobs. They employ 1,000 people. Occasionally, I disagree with Ben Shapiro, but I'm not like trying to blast them every day. You've got to look at the good that we're doing. And people shouldn't do that here. I'm all for the drama, even though I'm old now.

I don't want to participate in it. But I watch the clips. I'm not going to pretend I'm above it all. I watch every clip. It's like right away when they load up. I try to stay out of it. And I think people need to be more like Charlie and realize that if we lose in the midterms that we lose in 2028, like what do we win? Right?

Does it feel good to vent your, this is like a young man's game. Ben's old. I'm old. This venting your spleen is a young man's game. You don't get to do that when you're older. You got to tone it down and realize if we lose, we're screwed, man. You got to just play along. Yeah, I mean, I think, yeah, there's people, you can clap for that.

You guys can clap for that. I hear it out there. Blake, what do you make of what you saw that? Were you in the room when it? I was watching and I was in the... What was it? I was backstage, so I didn't get a good sense of the audience. How did, how, what was the reaction and what's your take on it?

Yeah, I think that, I think that I characterized this scorched earth. I wasn't expecting that. He came out very hard on that, and I think the Candace deserved to be called out. I'm not saying I agree with everything you said, but I echo Mike's sentiments that, you know, what is important is winning the midterms. And this is a temporary blip once we get all of our ducks in a row and we're all aligned for the same purpose. It's going to be so much better. And we need to start focusing on that as opposed to the small things that we are disagreeing on. And as Charlie has often said, now when you stop talking to people, bad things start happening.

And with our own side now, we need to continue talking. We can't be ostracizing people who have a slightly different opinion on a minor issue when we all agree about the large issues. Yeah, so can I say something real quick? Because here's my, I don't do radio much, so I'll probably jibber jabber too much. But Charlie got, and this is something that a lot of people don't understand, being a podcaster and winning elections are two different things. Right. Charlie was like, you got to get out to vote. You got to drive people to vote.

And you can tell with the drama using a big name to click base. You get the clip, a million people watch it. Your followers say, how does that get out the vote? That doesn't get out the vote. And this is about driving out the vote. That's what Charlie's mission is. So people want to do K-Fabe pro-Ressling things. They want to go fight Jake Paul in the ring.

Go do that. Go fight Jake Paul in the ring. Go fight Sam Hyde. But this is like, are you getting the vote out? And if you're not getting the vote out, keep it to yourself. The K-Fabe line is pretty funny because one of the older, weird or dumber conspiracy theories we'd have about Charlie is that all of the speeches are dictated or pre-planned? I think we successfully debunked that one last night.

Yeah, I don't know if you ended up doing it, but I told Knowles, I was like, you know, what you should do is just be like, well, I guess we know that Charlie doesn't, in turning point, don't tell people what to say from the state. And we don't, by the way. People think it's like, oh, we have this elaborate scheme that we, you know, it's all orchestrated. No, we just say, like, hey, you're cool. We like you. Go do what you do. like we don't want to bring people that we have to tell what to say by the way you people if they're going to be speaking on the main stage they have something to say they have something worthwhile they've earned the right to be there and i think that's a really important point to make so thanks to bring that up like you you tweet i'm going to paraphrase it but you basically tweeted something by the way you got to follow sernovich on on x he's one of the key follows if you want to understand the heartbeat of the movement um Mike you said something again paraphrasing that you when you look to who you take your cues from you're going to give a lot more credits to the people that are actually in the field doing the work. And you're going to downgrade the people that just like basically sit behind a camera and aren't doing the work.

Why is that so important? Build that out. Right. So what podcasts do is they create a sense of false catharsis. It's a pipe piper thing. They go, oh, I'm your voice. Come watch me. Oh, buy my merch and do this and use my coupon code and do this and do that, which is all great. People have to make a living. But if you lose, you lose. You've fallen for an illusion. It's a demonic illusion. First of all, it's idolatry.

It's anti-Christian. It's idolatry, first of all, to have this weird parisocial relationship with podcasters. I always tell people, don't act weird around me because that's a sin for you and a sin for me too because then it leads me to ego and pride and everything else. What matters is, like, are you driving out the vote? Are you winning?

And what my problem with the podcaster thing, and Charlie really pushed back, He was a visionary. He had a podcast to some idiot's going to clip it and say, oh, Cernavich hates podcast. No, no, no. Podcasts is a necessary mechanism. But if you're not converting that to votes and you're only converting that to merch, turn email list to selling things, you're creating an idol of yourself, which is demonic.

You're encouraging a false catharsis and a false consciousness of your own audience that you're leading them into deception, and you're not even winning, right? not moving the needle. So that's what people don't understand. Well, you guys know, a turning point knows, and that's why I was a day one supporter of turning point. Back with Charlie had the socialism sucks t-shirts, and I've always supported you guys, even no matter who goes after you, because I don't want to knock on doors. I want to be lazy at home with my kids. So I feel like if you want to be at home on social media, you better be promoting the heck out of the people that are doing the door knocking because that's how you win elections.

Well said. Give it up for Mike there, guys. And by the way, he's underselling his utility. Mike's done a lot of in-the-field work over the years. And by the way, 2016 probably wouldn't happen without Mike Cernovich, okay? You don't have Trump in the White House. He was one of the ring leaders, one of the captains on the field, the generals on the field that was getting people in the right direction. So you're underselling yourself.

Blake, you know more about the vibe on the ground of MAGA because you visit all the rallies, you visit all the events. You're so faithful in that. Be honest. What's the vibe right now? Well, I think people are concerned. People are definitely concerned about the midterms, but I think they're also optimistic. And I think the vibe is still, you know, to be honest, it's not as great as it was coming into 2024.

But I think it's still positive. And I think people realize that victory is still ours to have. Like Mike said, we get out there and we do it. And, you know, when I was out there helping turning point in action, their recall election for Dorian Taylor here in Mesa. I see those armies of people out there volunteering, which you won, exactly. And, you know, it makes a difference. And I knocked on a few doors myself.

I'm not going to say I was, you know, a huge critical part of that. But I did a small part, and all those small parts add up. And I encourage you all to volunteer. Did you wear the brick suit for the door? No, I didn't wear the brick suit for knocking on doors. I mean, that wouldn't be, you go to your ring doorbell and you see a wall. That's not going to be, that's not something you always. open up. So I didn't use, didn't use a suit for that.

Heartbreaking. Yeah, I mean, we've got one minute left here. Mike, what is your marching orders? If you had, let's just imagine, Mike Johnson, Speaker Johnson is watching this right now, leaders in Washington. What's your message right now? What do they have to do? If you're in Congress, do congressional things. I'm so sick of them all being influencers. Like, I don't care what, like, yeah? It's like, Ted Cruz, you're in the Senate. I don't care. You can hate Tucker.

I'm not Tucker's bodyguard. I don't care. Hey Tucker, but you're in the Senate. You need to be doing Senator things, not tweeting all day. Mike Johnson needs to not be an influencer. If you're in Congress, be in Congress. And if you don't want to do your job in Congress, then go to a podcast and then see if anybody really cares. So do congressional things if you're in Congress.

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And to answer your question, yes, those mayors and those governors need to be arrested. They're obstructing ICE. And it's moms like Angie that we need to uplift, not the illegal aliens that these sanctuary jurisdictions are helping out. Thank you. I've been watching Charlie for years, and I particularly loved when he went to the college campus to debate women on the abortion issue and the unborn. And so I work for an organization called Save the Storks, and we're here, and it's our first time at Amfest. and we want to honor Charlie's legacy by raising money for a mobile medical clinic in Erica Kirk's name, in his honor, that will serve women, that will love on women with hope and compassion

when they come on our clinic and they see their baby for the first time, they choose life. And we're going to honor Charlie, and we're going to sponsor you. We're going to keep coming back over and over again until abortion is unthinkable. Amen. And one more. We have a birthday. got a birthday? We got a birthday. A friend of mine from Fresno, California, but more important than the birthday is what you're working on. Tell us about the organization, what you guys do. Yes, so I sit on the board for Betrell Project USA.org, and we give voices to the 1.6 million

victims who were killed in U.S. hospitals on U.S. oil due to the mandated and government to cynifies hospital COVID protocols. So share your story. Betrell Project USA.org. You are not alone. Thank you for that. That's great. Is this working?

There it is. Blake, I'm going to let you drive here. This is a very personal story for you as well, but for Charlie in the last weeks of his life. Tell us about it. Yeah. So as a lot of people know, one of the last things Charlie did was he went on a trip to Korea.

I was with him on that. He spoke at Build Up Korea, which it was really something to behold because it truly was, let's look at Amfest and copy everything about it, has that neon color scheme that we use, looked exactly like an Amfest event, but it was in Korea. And one of the things he did there was he was meeting with pastors in Korea. Korea has a very fraught political environment right now, and a lot of pastors and Christians are right at the center. of it. So one of the men

he met was Pastor Son that's his name. Hianbo Son is the pastor's name and we're joined now by very shortly after meeting Charlie he was arrested in fact so we're joined right here at Amfest by two of Pastor's sons

sons keep that keep that in order they are Chan's son and Yongkwang son so give a warm welcome to both of them. Thank you so much for having us here. We are so honored to be presented on Charlie Kirk Show, which we admire in Korean's love as well. Thank you.

So why don't you just explain what's going on in your country and what happened to your father? Yeah, so my father got arrested because of the wrong interpretation of election law, and because my father criticized the candidates for pushing LGBT agenda and walkism into schools, my father got arrested for being too political from the pulpit. also speaking out against a candidate for promising to appoint 30% of the public sector positions for sector minorities, which is absurd. And as a pastor, my father had to speak out, and because of that very reason, my father got arrested. And it's been 103rd day, marking 1003rd day today.

Yep. Yeah, so let's, so make sure everybody's got the story here. Play 335, guys. If I am imprisoned, it will prove that Korea is no longer free. Reverend Chan-Bos-Son made that statement just before entering the police station for a pretrial hearing on September 8th. Despite being a preliminary session, the court approved his arrest warrant and detained him immediately. Charges against Pastor Son include violating election laws,

specifically for interviewing a candidate on issues the government interpreter, as illegal campaigning. Authorities cited risk of light and destroying evidence as the reasons for his detention. Illegal campaigning, that's a remarkable thing to hear. About a pastor, no less. So does a pastor just lose their free speech in Korea, basically as soon as they start shepherding a flock?

Basically, yeah. They're losing the constitutional rights that we are born with. So free speech is basically being violated in Korea. And if you have enough of influence, even as a pastor, you're not allowed to speak out even if the biblical values are being harmed. Yeah, and one of Charlie's passions was ensuring that we, the people, in the church pews, have our voice. So Charlie, that's why we have TPSA faith, to say that there is a vacuum in the culture, and if we don't fill it as Christians, then people that don't share our values are going to do it. And we're not going to like the outcome, okay? So we have to be involved.

In Korea, they're making that illegal to be involved. So I have a question for you. What has the United States government done to help your father? So I was thankfully invited by the White House Faith Office a month back to be able to serve my father's story. And they are aware of this situation. And they are trying to find ways to help out. But we need not only Koreans, but Christians, brothers and sisters in Christ,

to speak out for religious freedom and also our constitutional rights. Because Korean Constitution is written off based off U.S. Constitution. So we must ensure constitutional rights, freedom, free speech, religious freedom. However, it's being violated, and they are taking away our freedom. So we need you, Americans and the government, to push, to tell the Korean government that this is not right. Take us home, Blake. Korea is one of the most Christian countries in Asia. They can be a great friend of ours, and they should be a friend of ours.

Well, they need to get their act together here, and guys, do what you can. Support Pastor Sun. It's very important. Thank you so much. We're going to have a turning point action segment here for you guys, because, again, it's all about action, action, action, right? So, T.P. USA, it's all about college campuses. It's all about reaching young people.

Turning point action is all about winning elections, right? so they go hand in hand. One feeds off the other. That's what we like to do here. So before we get into this very important segment, I want to put a bow on the last one. So if you want to support Pastor Sun out of South Korea who's been in prison for his political beliefs because he happens to be a pastor, throw this, the QR code up there, please. So everybody put it up there, the QR code. If you scan that QR code, everybody out there, get your phones out, take a picture. you can sign the petition,

sign the petition, get involved in freeing this man who spoke up for his faith, who spoke up for his country, and was imprisoned two weeks after Charlie met him. By the way, it's just the whole thing is insane. And the timing you have to imagine for South Korea is providential. You have to believe that. So please, take that QR code, sign the petition, get involved, raise awareness for Pastor Son.

It's unacceptable what's happened to him. Thank you, Mary, for sending me that. Thank you. All right. So, transitioning to turning point action. Brett Galeshefsky, you are, I think, like, you're like our mascot out there. You, Brett, you guys know Brett Galeshiewski? Brett, your profile keeps rising because I think people feed off your energy.

You are dynamic, you're excited, you're enthusiastic. The floor is yours, my friend. Explain what we're doing right now. Explain what turning point action is about, how people can get involved. Like, give them the 30,000 foot. I appreciate that, Andrew. It's great to be here. And it's great to have all you guys here today. The energy is through the roof, isn't it? We are so excited because at Turning Point Action, we're going to be turning the page into 2026, which is going to be the make or break year to save our country. People have asked me all over this weekend. What's at stake in 26? The short answer is everything that we have worked so hard to make happen.

And right now, Indiana is a little bit of the epicenter of conservative politics right now. We just got done fighting a big fight in Indiana at the State House among these Republican legislators that refuse to vote yes to a 9-0 map, allowing us conservatives to be in the best possible position to compete to win back the House of Representatives next year. But then on top of that, that's only a small sliver of what we've been doing at Turning Point Action. We're building the pieces so we can build that red wall that allows us to compete in 2028. And so that's what Brandon is here for today. That's what we're really excited to talk about.

So what is the red wall? So we talked about this on the show before. The blue wall historically has always been a combination of Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. And the best play in the Democratic playbook has always been for them to pick off two of those three states. We really threw a wrench in their plans in 2024. We won Wisconsin. We won Michigan. We won Pennsylvania.

And so now you look at it's a numbers game in 2028. We have to get to that 270 electoral map percentage. And right now we believe that our best path to the 270 electoral mark is a combination of Arizona. That's always been important. It still will be important. Arizona. Come on now. Nevada.

I'm a Nevada, boy. Any Nevada's in the house besides me? Anybody? I got nobody, guys. I'm a loner right here. And then last but certainly not least, New Hampshire. That is the new battleground state. We got New Hampshire?

We don't have Nevada? I'm embarrassed. Describe this because New Hampshire never voted. for Donald Trump, for example, in any of those three elections. So what's changing in the state that makes it part of a red wall? Well, so that was the swing state that Trump lost by the slimmest margin. And let's just compare New Hampshire to a state like Wisconsin, which was one of the red wall states in 2024. The thing that New Hampshire has over Wisconsin is twofold. One, a Republican governor. So it's a lot easier for us to build that infrastructure. And then two,

more registered Republicans than registered Democrats. A state like Wisconsin, for instance, does not register by party, so it's really hard to model. It's really hard to create shape files and it allows us to target voters in kind of just an improper way. In New Hampshire, there's a huge libertarian faction. There's a huge chaseful independent faction. And more importantly, there are more Republicans. So that's what makes us very intrigued by New Hampshire and why we're really excited to be launching our full-scale ballot chase operation over the next four years in the Granite State.

Yeah, full-scale. So Arizona was a great example of what Turning Point Action is. do when we do the get out the vote, chase the vote, operation, right? So we had full employment, thousands of volunteers, door knocking. And what we do, and I don't want to give away the secret sauce too much, but some of this is public, is we divide the state into these very bite-sized little chunks, and we assign people on those territories. And then their job is to contact everybody on their list, they're low prop, conservative,

probably Republican voters, and we knock on their door, we text them, we call them, we're nice to them, we'd be their neighbor, we'd be their, you try and be the mayor of your little territory, you invite them to things, you get them involved so that when election month comes, they already know who you are. They know they can trust you, they can use you as a resource. That's the idea. So Arizona was a great example of that. We lost in 2020 by about 10,000 votes in the state of Arizona, right? A lot of shenanigans, we don't need to relitigate the past. Arizona became the best-performing swing state in 2024 because of the work that brett and his team and tyler boyer and turning point action did getting out the vote

almost six percent trump won this state by almost six percent and it was like a margin of almost 200 000 vote victory in 2024 yeah you can cheer for that thank you caleb so that's the power of actually doing the machinery of getting out low prop votes so what people don't fully understand they still don't grasp this yet is that in the era of trump that we have become the the low prop party. The whole makeup of the conservative movement has changed. Now they have the more reliable voters, but we have more of them. That's the key. And that's why you're seeing us win national popular votes at the presidential level in 2024. So our job then becomes a little bit trickier because we have to do the work to get them out. That's why what we're doing in

New Hampshire is so critical. That's why what we're doing in Nevada is going to be so critical, because if we can make these permanent outposts of Republican Party control, conservative movement, then we're going to have a massive, massive advantage over Democrats. Because the way the census has changed, the way that voters have moved out of blue states and northern states and gone to the sunbelt, the math doesn't work for them the same way it did previously. And so if we have New Hampshire, Nevada, Arizona, if we can hold those, they are going to have a very, very tough time winning a national election in the future. So let's go over to our New Hampshire man, Brandon Malley, here.

Explain, yeah, give him up, get up for Brandon Malley. Turn in one action. He's doing the work. Explain the dynamics inside New Hampshire because something people don't understand is that we have more Republicans than Democrats, but there's a lot of independence. So explain the dynamics, Brandon. So since 2018, the Republican voter registration numbers have gotten better and better with each election, regardless of whether it's been a good year for Republicans or not.

That's one encouraging sign. Two, there's a big libertarian movement in New Hampshire that leans more Republican. It's probably the biggest libertarian operation of any state in the country. In fact, there's even a project called the Free State Project that's getting people to move to the state of New Hampshire to make it more conservative-minded, to make it a free state. It's the live-free or die state for a reason. The state legislature and the governor are Republican, they're reflective of that on the state level.

What we have to do is be reflective of that on a federal level. Federally, it's all Democrats. We need to get that independent vote voting the right way, and there are way too many disengaged Republicans. So did you guys hear that? New Hampshire has all state-level Republican representation, governor state legislature but for some reason on the federal level we could postulate why that might be Ben I was looking at you I wonder if you got some ideas but at the federal level we have zero

representation for Republicans that is a weird dynamic so how are we going to change it we're going to change it well actually it's surprising because every four years New Hampshire gets the attention of the political universe right it's the center first in the nation primary which by the many people in the state are upset that the Democrats are trying to take away. So we're going to be in defense of that, number one. Number two, it's important to have year-round infrastructure. It's amazing in the six months that I've been there, that I've witnessed everything on the ground,

how little infrastructure is in place outside of the presidential primary. So we are going to be the preeminent organization, putting bodies on the ground, chasing the low-propensity Republican votes, Republican voters and teaching the grassroots and the conservative base how to actually win elections outside of primaries. Give it up for Brandon, guys. This is what we need.

We need young, motivated, energetic people hitting the ground. And by the way, there's all these groups in New Hampshire. Sometimes they need an outside voice like a turning point action or whatever to come in and kind of just rally them all together. Give them the belief that they can do this. That's what we've seen across the country. Maybe talk to that. Yeah, well, Brandon was alluding to it, and it's a fascinating concept. In New Hampshire, without an organized ballot chase effort,

without really a ton of outside groups besides the legacy party apparatus that exists there, we're only losing elections in New Hampshire by the skin of our teeth. Would you imagine if we essentially carpet bomb New Hampshire now with a bunch of paid bodies on the ground, a bunch of volunteers that are trained on the concepts that you talked about, Andrew, relational organizing, neighbors talking to other neighbors, It really puts us in a big position here to move the needle, not just a little bit in New Hampshire, but permanently in our corner for decades to come. New Hampshire has that ability.

And that's why we're really excited to invest long term. So, Brett, if people watching at home, are they listening, listening to the podcast, or people in this event space right now want to get involved in 2026, 2028, what do they do? A couple things. So one, and many people don't actually know this. We own coalitions.com at Turning Point Action. Our coalitions program is our farm team. That is our volunteer field program where we organize, we recruit volunteers, we organize them, and then give them the tools necessary to be able to whip up votes, chase those votes,

in those extremely important precincts in their states. So coalitions.com, TP action. That's when you do like moms coalition, farmers coalition, Hispanic coalition, right? Correct. This is the concept of moms knocking on the doors of other moms. Latinos knocking on the doors of other Latinos, Gen Z, knocking on the doors of other Gen Z. And so that's the concept that we're building.

And then from there, and this is the beauty of the model that we've built, we can take the best of the best volunteers that are now trained in turning point action concepts and essentially say to them, keep doing what you've already been doing, but now we'll pay you to ballot chase for us full time through Chase the vote. And that's what we're going to replicate in Arizona, Nevada, and New Hampshire. All right, and we are hiring in Indiana, right? Throw up 338. We're looking for field representatives, right?

Yeah, if you would have told me a year ago that Turning Point Action was going to be hiring in Indiana, I would have told you you were crazy. But about a month ago, Indiana became the last line of defense for us to be able to win back the House of Representatives next year. They had an opportunity to go from a 7-2-controlled map to a 9-0 Republican congressional map. Unfortunately, in an Indiana State Senate that has 40 Republicans and only 10 Democrats, we couldn't get the 25 votes necessary for that map to pass. So now we want Indiana to be the cautionary tale of the century for these establishment folks,

and we're going to go in, we're going to put bodies on the ground, and we're going to primary these senators that refuse to support President Trump. Do you guys support that? Do you guys want to see us primary, some state senators that refuse to get on board in Indiana? Now, that's a ship of two congressional seats. It could have been massive. And knowing that Gavin Newsom stripped five Republican seats away from us in November, with Prop 50, Indiana had an opportunity

to really draw their line in the sand and reverse course. But the problem is you have a state filled with MAGA Republicans ran by MAGA haters. And we saw that all over the place, the Mike Pence footprint, the Mitch Daniels footprint. So we're coming into Indiana. We're penetrating the state and we're saying

enough is enough. Let's get rid of these folks. Let's put the ground game necessary to be able to primary them and let's save Indiana. All right, Amfess 2025. Give it up for turning point action here. Thanks guys. These guys are the boots on the ground, the workers in the field

and we need harvesters in the field so pray for them and God bless them. Thank you guys for coming. We got Ben Berkwam. He's out there talking to somebody that has... How tall? Tiny, tiny. Six foot eight. Six foot eight. All right. Real quick, you were talking action, action, action.

One other thing everyone needs to do across America. They've weaponized. The left is weaponized all of these rapid response networks against ice and border Patrol. We've got to be out in the streets supporting ICE and Border Patrol. We need mass deportations and mass prosecutions of everybody who's getting in the way and the injustice system against President Trump. But speaking of the fights that we're in and how important what Turning Point does, tell me your name again? Gabriel Murphy, first time at an event. He said

your family doesn't even know you're here. You're from Oakland, California. Why does this matter for you so much to be here and support Turning Point? I just think it's really important that people know where their values and their, yeah, maybe where their values align. I think a lot of times a lot of people aren't really malicious. They just don't really know or don't really get a chance to get exposed to information. I got a lot of fights with my family after Charlie Kirk passed away just in terms of they were saying that, you know, he was racist, you know, the whole thing. And I think it's just really important that people at least get a balanced viewpoint on who they are,

where their values align, what does the Bible say about what we should or shouldn't believe. and there's not a lot of people that look like me that believe what I believe and so I got joined into this because I have a buddy that started a turning point chapter at my college, I sat down and talked to him during COVID. It was just a whole thing

and so I think it's just really important that if you just talk to people and expose yourself to different ideas and I think rationally instead of emotionally that we can get a long way in this country so this is my first time being here I'm really happy to be here it's cool to see I've been way more patriotic

in the last couple years than I've ever been in my life so yeah welcome and by the way there's a lot more of people that look like you and think like you than you think and so hopefully you're that's right that's one of the lies that the main that the left wants you to believe but that is shifting in america there's a massive awakening happening happen god bless you man it's crazy too because i spent a year in hungry playing basketball and there's a lot of stuff that we have here that they don't have over there that like we really take for granted and i think if people would got a chance like go live in other places not the hungry's a bad place let me just I don't want to make mess up international relations or

anything like that but it's good but I think if you know you spend time in other places there's a lot of stuff that we have here they don't have over there like they don't have barbecue they don't have pickup trucks it's crazy so I think that people took more time being more grateful what we have in the U.S. I think we go a lot further a lot longer way so God bless you man thank you for coming out and we're praying for your family yeah you you can be there their bridge to uh to get here with us here thank you Ben Berkram the great Ben Berklin Can we give it up for Ben? He's been amazing.

All right, Poe. So, in the tradition of America Fest, we're doing the warm handoff. And what do you got plan for your show? What can people expect? Andrew, do I look like a guy with a plan? Do I look like, no, what can we expect? We want high-energy America-first patriotism that will be coursing through America Fest, and we're going to be sending a message

to all the people in the swing states to Washington, D.C., and yes, I don't just mean the Democrats, I mean the establishment Republicans as well, the rhinos, the people holding up the filibuster and the president's agenda. We're going to make our voices heard tonight. All right, so nobody can go anywhere.

Posto's coming up next. Jack, you've got a few different duties at this event. You're going to be speaking. You've got a speech. You are also going to be on stage interviewing who? Tonight, I will be on stage. I think we're closing out tonight, on stage interviewing Megan Kelly. You guys want to see that?

Should we interview Megan Kelly tonight? Send the questions you want Jack to ask Megan to Freedom at Charliekirk.com. Wow, God. Oh, man. We need a crowd so. Stealing my SEO over here. Yeah, Freedom at Charliekirk.com. I will actually hand-deliver those questions to Jack.

this will be fun no uh something tells me though that i think a few of the questions may be uh already floating around online and i'm sure that megan is knowing megan is already more than prepared to answer them yeah no she and by the way megan has been um she has been i think i think she was she's going to react maybe some of the criticism but i will just tell you megan behind the scenes has been uh wonderful and very supportive and you guys should know that um and we'll see what happens tonight. I can't wait. I can't wait. Look, because everybody wants to play this game, right? And I'll just, I'll even, I'll even, you know, peel back the curtain. Everyone wants to go, oh, who's side do you want, right? Who's side are you on? You're on Tucker side?

Are you on Megan's side? Are you on Ben's side? This side? No, no. I'm on Charlie's side, okay? I'm on Charlie Kirk's side. That's the side I'm on, I'm on Turning Point side. I'm on Erica Kirk's side. I'm on Amfest side. I'm on America side, right? It's about MAGA and it's about keeping the coalition together. Now that being said, that being said, when these issues do come up, what do we do? You do what Charlie did. You talk about it. It's as simple as that. Yeah, well said. Blake, final words. Man, I just, yeah, you really dumped this on me, didn't you? No, it's, we're having a very fun event. We're having a very outspoken event. I'm looking forward to what we're going to hear tonight. I think it'll be hard to top the virality of

last night, but I know you, Jack, you'll consider that a dare. I really am. You already are planning this, I imagine. Well, I mean, it's all mega, right? I'm just asking the question, so I'm not trying to be the center of anything. But, I mean, give it the opportunity. You know, I mean, I do have a reputation. Well, and I want to wrap this up by just saying one thing, is that I cannot get over

how encouraging it is for us to see all of you here. And how wonderful you guys have all been, how welcoming to each other. The energy in this room, it's hard to explain if you're not here, but it is extreme. It is wonderful. It is overflowing. So I just love the people that come to Amfest that make the track from all over the country. You guys make this so much fun for us and so encouraging. And there's something about getting in person, IRL, Jack, not just being online, Mr. Twitter man.

Not just being online, actually getting and mixing it up with the people. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.