The Charlie Kirk Show - Arizona's Next Governor Remembers Charlie

Episode Date: October 8, 2025

Charlie was passionate about making Arizona into the next Florida, and central to that mission was making Andy Biggs into the state's next governor. Rep. Biggs joins the show to answer questions from ...voters and talk about his relationship with Charlie. Cliff Maloney talks about bringing his aggressive chase-the-vote effort to New Jersey, where the governor's race has become remarkably close. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:10 Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Very excited about this. We've been trying to arrange this for a couple days, but he's a busy man, which is exactly how he should be. That's Andy Biggs, Representative Andy Biggs, and future governor of the state of Arizona. So honored to have you here, there was probably no political mission, at least in the near term that Charlie was more passionate about than helping get you elected as the next governor of Arizona. So it's great to have you here. Thanks, Andrew. Great to be with you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:41 And as you said, before we got on air, no pressure. You were Charlie's like probably, I mean, there was a few finals. It was like Nate Morris in Kentucky and your, I mean, but this was going to be a major. AZ was the big one because he was like, I want the desert Florida. He wanted the floridification of Arizona and he just had complete trust in your credentials as a conservative. You love the people of this state and he knew you were going to put in the work. And that's why I love it. I was, I was joking. I was like, so it was actually harder to book this than it was like Tucker Carlson, you know, to get on the show. Just in the last couple of days because you were out on the road. You were up north and you had all these events scheduled. So tell us how's the how's
Starting point is 00:02:24 the campaign going and how are you feeling about things? Well, the campaign's going great. Pollings good. We're raising money, solid money, more than I've ever raised in my time in office. And also, you know, as we're all over the state, because Andrew, we are getting all over the state, the momentum is really strong. We really feel it and sense it, and people come out. And think about this, we're a year before the election. And last week, one of our crowds had over probably about 350 people at it for one event. And so this type of thing this far in advance, is really kind of unusual, particularly in this state. Well, I like to think that Charlie and the energy
Starting point is 00:03:07 that Charlie was putting into this is contributing because I think there is a sense that we even feel it from the team, the last things that Charlie wanted or the last visions that he was casting. And by the way, he's left certain blueprints that take us all the way through 2030, that we're going to be following. That it's, you know, those are even more dear to us.
Starting point is 00:03:28 And so I, you know, I think we speak for all of this show, this audience, for turning point action. We say that, you know, we're behind you like 100%, a thousand percent. And, you know, anything that you need that we can do, we're excited to help. And here's what I will say. This is some good news. If you throw up image 297, this is a, this is breaking. On the one-on-one matchup, you are up 24 percent with 14 undecided. This is for the primary.
Starting point is 00:03:56 On a three-person ballot, you're up, it looks what? 22% that's I mean you those are solid solid margins uh congressman future governor what what is behind this what are you hearing from people on the ground that that is getting them so animated this early on well I think there's several things and I would I'd be remiss if I didn't mention President Trump's endorsement yes of course and and Charlie's endorsement and turning point action's endorsement those those endorsements are are really critical But also, I'd like to think in part that people know that I have a voting background. You can see how I voted.
Starting point is 00:04:36 You can see how I've led the state when I was in the state and how I've worked in Congress. And so what we have found is even before, and I told this to President Trump one time, I said, before he endorsed me, I said, Mr. President, I'm already up 40%, you know. So don't knock me down with that endorsement. But anyway, he gave me that endorsement, and that's pretty solid. So the type of people who support me and back me, that's just as important as it can possibly be. So, I mean, listen, you obviously don't have to convince me, but for those listening that are like, maybe they're wondering who they're going to support, what is your platform? What are you planning on doing for the state of Arizona?
Starting point is 00:05:17 What's your vision? So we do have a vision. So the first thing is public safety. So I literally was just talking to a radio show down in Tucson, and they were talking about the crime. Well, that's a problem in Tucson that the state's going to probably have to intervene in. So we should be the safest state. And I over-explain, Andrew. I love it.
Starting point is 00:05:37 No, I mean, get wonky if you have to. I'll pull you out. We'll make it interesting. Okay, all right. So we have just about four to five hundred vacancies in the Arizona's Department of Public Safety right now. That's your troopers on the street and everything like that. That means that the places, counties that don't have enough sheriff's deputies, there having to fill in and it just causes this this downstream effect which is not good so we should
Starting point is 00:06:02 be the safest state in the country and why is that because the because you have to follow the rule of law if you have the rule of law you have freedom and that's that's the goal is to have freedom in the state the second thing is we've gone from being number four in job creation in the state to be number 47 and so we've really fallen off the map and so you have to make sure we're competing with states that are eliminating things like income tax and that are streamlined what's your what's your there. We're going to eliminate income tax. I would vote yes on that. Yeah, and then we're going to streamline
Starting point is 00:06:33 the regulations, which is what we're competing against states that are doing that. So a lot of jobs that used to come to Arizona, they're flying over, right? So we've got to fix that. Then we still have a border problem. We have the number one human drug trafficking corridor in the country. That's not good for families, individuals,
Starting point is 00:06:50 so we have to put a stop to that. Is that still top of mind with voters, given the crackdown on the border that President Trump is accomplished? It is. They're grateful for the border being secure mostly, but we still have these corridors. So we have places like in Yuma. I was just in Yuma the other day in San Luis, and they were talking about the smuggling, and I'll be on a panel today about human trafficking. It's a real issue for the state. And Andrew Water. Water's a big deal. We actually have a lot of water in the state. It's just totally mismanaged.
Starting point is 00:07:27 by this particular governor. She's mismanaged it so much that she's killing the American dream. The American dream used to be, I want to own a home, build a family. If you do own a home, you see family formation come. Well, she's killing it because there are places you cannot build a home, single family home,
Starting point is 00:07:43 in Arizona today because of her water policies. So we have to fix that power policies. This reliance on solar and wind, which is unreliable, has to be subsidized, hard to distribute. We're going to replace that with natural gas. We're going to make sure that we're getting the new nuclear subcompact units coming in.
Starting point is 00:08:05 There are things we're going to do, and we're going to turn the whole state around. And that's just on the policy side. The other aspect is I know how to do it on the procedure side. So I'll get elected in November of 26, Andrew. That's a Tuesday. And on Wednesday, you'll see a new speaker and a new Senate president.
Starting point is 00:08:23 We'll have the Republican majority. and by that evening I'll be sitting down with them with the leadership talking about how we're going to introduce and pass those bills that Governor Hobbs vetoed. We're talking about 300 vetoes right now. Things like the election integrity law. Yeah, just all of this. Well, election integrity is huge,
Starting point is 00:08:45 and I know that's a really important issue for the base here, especially in Arizona. But your background is, I think, one of the things that people don't give you enough credit for or not aware enough of your background is how well you understand state level politics, right? Yeah, you've been in Congress at the federal level for a long time, but that's your background. You know how to work the levers of power here in the state. Yeah, I was, I served in the legislature for a good number of years. I was the Senate president when I left to run for Congress. Before that, I was the Senate majority leader.
Starting point is 00:09:18 I actually wrote the state budget for a good number of years. So I know how it works. how the leverage points are. I worked with two different governors, so I know how the executive branch is. So, of course, we're going to doge it. I mean, having seen the budgeting process, we love doge. Yeah, we love doge. Yeah, we're going to doge. Oh, I love that. I bet you could find a lot of, I mean, and by the way, when you cut income tax down to eliminate it, there is other ways to make revenue that make more sense and that incentivize people in the right ways. But then you combat that, you combine that rather, with important spending. cutting cuts and getting rid of waste, fraud, and abuse, oftentimes you come into a very beautiful
Starting point is 00:09:59 middle ground. I guess that's your vision. Yeah, that's right. You move to the middle ground, but the thing that's beautiful about that is you actually stimulate the economy more, which increases the velocity of the movement of money. And when you do that, it means that you're going to actually increase your revenue. I mean, the history is always you increase your revenue and reduce taxes. I totally agree. I mean, this is why you've seen all the job growth go to the sunbelt and the red states in the sunbelt. I mean, they're leaving California, but the goal here in Arizona needs to be, don't fly over and go to Texas or go to Florida. You can stop right here because we're going to have the most pro-business state in the country. This is Lane Schoenberger,
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Starting point is 00:11:52 Freedom at Charliekirk.com. So we have Steve. He's a business owner here in Arizona, and I won't say his business just in case he'd rather we don't, but I think it'd be very much on our side. He says, please ask Representative Biggs about gas pricing in Arizona. The people I speak with say this is a big issue. It is a massive issue. So we don't have any refineries in Arizona.
Starting point is 00:12:13 so we have to import all of our gas. The pipeline coming from the east, which comes through El Paso and on up, first drop is, of course, is going to be Tucson, which is why Tucson always is cheaper than us, and it comes on up. It's running at capacity right now, and another pipeline is going to be built to expand that. We have stuff coming from California, one pipeline from California. California is trying to eliminate its refineries,
Starting point is 00:12:39 which is driving up artificial scarcity for us. So they've killed two refineries. They're actually trying to sell Valero Finery, which is, or force a sale of the Valero Finery, which is their biggest. And the good chance that it's going to be purchased by a Canadian company, and if it does, I've talked to their minister up there, and they're anxious to sell oil and gas to Arizona.
Starting point is 00:13:04 But that's our problem is we're importing it. If we could build a refinery, we'd be in good shape. There's been attempts. But everybody is scared to death because it takes, billions of dollars in about 10 years or so to build and they're afraid that if they start and invest all this then all of a sudden another administration comes in and changes the environmental requirements
Starting point is 00:13:26 and next thing you know they can't make it financially work anymore so that's why we don't have refineries here if we can get a refinery we're going to be in better shape great there's another one I see from Jacks for him I just thought it was amusingly he said tell bigs to reduce foreign aid cash for the immigration expense being born by U.S. consumers and taxpayers. I think mercifully, that's not an Arizona thing, though, of course, it is a congressional thing. But there are things you can do at the state level, potentially. Yeah. So at the federal
Starting point is 00:13:57 level, I support that, and we've actually got a lot of withdrawal of funding in that way. We need to do more. That's what the big fight is over the shutdown right now, as a matter of fact. But at the state level, this governor eliminated the Border Security Task Force and took down barriers when she first came in, and we're going to make sure we've got barriers there and that the Border Security Task Force is reinstituted. That's a way to stop and slow that down. The other thing is we're going to doge the Medicaid and welfare roles, and if you're here illegally, you're not entitled. It really is such a, it's an infuriating, like, diseased mindset to, I'm going to rip down barriers at the border with
Starting point is 00:14:38 Mexico. What is the motivation for this other than I just really want people to illegally come here if at all possible? Charlie always said that borders are a political delineation where bad ideas begin and good ideas begin or bad ideas end
Starting point is 00:14:54 and good ideas begin and I think no disrespect to our neighbors but we like our ideas. We like our people and we want to take care of our people first. Absolutely right and Charlie was right on that because if you look we have now we've led in millions of people
Starting point is 00:15:09 who have those ideas they've brought their ideas with them and they're trying to change our ideas or maybe even inadvertently right it's just that you bring your culture with you and you know listen we like our culture we like our country and we want to take care of Americans first
Starting point is 00:15:25 I mean I think that's the truth I want to give you at least this last few minutes and talk about your personal relationship with Charlie because we lost an icon of our culture a hero but you You lost a friend, we all lost a friend. And I want, just, you can make it as personal as you can do.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Well, so I always viewed us as being fortunate because we live in a time when there's been two gigantic cultural and political movements at the same time. You got the MAGA movement that President Trump instituted. Then you had the turning, what I call the turning point, or just the turning movement that Charlie brought in. So Charlie was, you know, he was, I viewed him as a really a, really a, as a, you know, a forefront he was a stud i mean he uh he was a good example to even an old guy like me so we loved him so that's all yeah i know um and uh i mean it's hard to navigate everyone in this
Starting point is 00:16:25 room everyone in this room was older than charlie but all of us looked up to him all of us admired him um but he was always he was such a reciprocator he was such a giver you know uh i think Trump himself said at the memorial, he always gave more than he asked of anyone. In his office, he has that little three-line thing. And the first one is, is how can I help somebody today? And that's always what he would want to do. He would want to help you win the election. He would want to help this person with their faith or whatever.
Starting point is 00:16:56 I mean, I spent basically the first week of the show crying in public. So the fact that you get a little teary-eyed is. It really just speaks to the fact that you're a human being and a good man. And I know how close Charlie and you were. And God bless you, man. And we love you too. Thanks. Thanks.
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Starting point is 00:17:51 If that's how God takes me, then that's how I'm supposed to go. And I feel like that was a clear message that Charlie's life is a testimony to Jesus Christ, his Lord and Savior. And his relationship with him was the most important thing that he would want world to remember about his legacy. Man, are we grateful to have gotten to be a little connection in the multitude of connections that he made throughout his life because it was so impactful to us. Thank you, Charlie.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Love you. We miss you. We're going to continue to drive forward the good news. So, uh, the, uh, There's a bunch of questions for Andy that I actually do want to get to. But first, we're going to bring in our friend, Cliff Maloney, of the renowned, the call. It was the call, Cliff. And you, on election night, you were the one as Charlie sat in that chair.
Starting point is 00:18:53 When we announced that Trump was going to be the next president of the United States, it was you who were leading us. And as we were all in shocked, stunned silence. So welcome back. I think the last time you're here was actually a person. So it's nice to see you back in your spot on the Zoom. I'm back here. I'm here at headquarters in Harrisburg, PA.
Starting point is 00:19:11 And, yeah, I was in this room when we called it in Pennsylvania. And look, I got to tell you guys, you know, when Charlie asked me to do the show, I never realized at that moment. Obviously, not just calling you, but Erica coming in and embracing Charlie. You know, I get emotional thinking about it. But it was just, you know, the video that everybody watched hundreds of millions of times. And I'm honored to keep fighting. So glad to be with you guys.
Starting point is 00:19:33 And I love, didn't know that. one of my favorite congressman 80 bigs would be on better be the next governor we're going to do everything we can to get that guy elected i'm here that's exactly right well and this is why it's all it all plays very well together here uh so cliff you are maybe i'll i'll let you do it but you've got news in new jersey uh but i but i love it because it ties into what we all the things we've done in pennsylvania in wisconsin and in arizona so what what's the news in new jersey uh cliff the floor is George. Yeah, so happy to announce that we are taking the PA Chase on the road. We have launched the New Jersey Chase going all in on Jack Chitterelli and getting him elected. And look, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:20:12 be honest with folks for a lot of months. I hesitated on going to public with this, right? My brand is that we are the Pennsylvania, I would say America First, you know, ground game, right? We are the PHAs here at Citizens Alliance. But what happened, you know, not just Charlie getting murdered, but over the last couple months, you know, we've kind of realized like, This tactic, the Turning Point and Citizens Alliance, has really focused on, which is ground game, actually going out, harvesting and chasing where you can only chase, harvesting where it's legal. And so we're going to all in on New Jersey. We've committed to knock 500,000 doors through the New Jersey Chase program. People want to get involved at NJChase.org they can.
Starting point is 00:20:53 But we've got tons of people on the ground. We've got seven to 10 Airbnbs, depending on which week it is. We're not close to 300,000 doors so far. I love how the numbers look, but this is about continuing the work as Charlie would want us to do, and that's what the New Jersey chase is all about. I love it. So, Andy, I think you would be good to chime in here. How important is it to do the door knocking, to do the person to person to person chasing these low prop voters,
Starting point is 00:21:24 especially when you have close states. And we see that, you know, Cliff, you can give us an update on the polling in just a second, but this is a close race. And for the first time, we have a real chance of taking power in New Jersey. Yeah, well, the personal contact you get when you're at the door is the most influential contact you can have in campaigning. It really is. I mean, you can do TVS and everything.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Most influential is one-on-one contact. And we saw what it did in Arizona. I mean, we turned a turning point, and it turned out 300,000 plus low propensity voters. And new voters. And new voters. There's 315,000 low prop and new voters. Yeah, and that turned the election.
Starting point is 00:22:03 I mean, Trump won this state by 160,000 votes, roughly, 5%. The biggest margin in a battleground state, that was because of that door-to-door contact, that encouragement to get out new voters and low propensity voters. That's what's going to do it again this time, but it's going to do it in New Jersey. It sounds like first, and I'm excited to see that. Yeah, absolutely. Blake, I don't know if you were going to chime in. Oh, no, no, no. Okay. So, so give us, so what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, where's the polling at?
Starting point is 00:22:37 And why do you like this, right? Why is it worth putting these kind of resources in? Because we get requests to do this in all 50 states, just to be clear. People come to us. Can we use your app? Can we, can you guys send out, you know, resources to do this? And we want to do it. Obviously, we would love to do that because I think there's gains that can be made at the local level. there could be gains at the statewide level it's not just all about who's the president of the united states right and we want senators congress and we want we want school board members to be conservative we want them to be on on board but here's the issue is is that we have limited resources right we have limited bodies there's we have to pick our battles and be very strategic which is why we picked you know Wisconsin Arizona Pennsylvania Michigan Nevada in the last one because those are races
Starting point is 00:23:19 that we could invest these types of resources and actually make a manageable practical and determinative difference in these states. So why New Jersey, Cliff? Well, first off, I can wear my Eagles hat in half the state, which is pretty nice for a guy that wants to pander and not have to play the political game when it comes to sports. No, but seriously, look, I mean, the polls right now, poll came out just recently, 43, 43, it's a dead heat. What really excites me is, and I'm preaching to the choir here, because not only you guys, but everybody that listens to Charlie's show, you know, knows the power of really making sure we compete when it comes to vote by mail. If you compare New Jersey and Pennsylvania, understand this.
Starting point is 00:23:58 In Pennsylvania, we don't have early voting. We have two ways to vote, either by mail or on election day. In New Jersey, they've got over a week of early voting and Republicans compete and do very well in early voting. So when we're at the doors, which we're at now, we're not only pushing vote by mail to low props, but if they have some objection to vote by mail, guess what? You can plan to vote in the week leading up to the election. And so it gives you an alternative that we don't have in Pennsylvania. And when you run the numbers, Andrew, if we compete in vote by mail and we match the type of turnout that Jack Chitterelli had four years ago, remember, Jack was the nominee in 21. So it's not a rematch because Murphy is no longer, you know, capable term limited out, but Mikey
Starting point is 00:24:45 Cheryl is running against Jack Chittarelli. Jack has name ID. And four years ago, he only lost by roughly three points. And so you're talking about a state where they didn't have much of a door-to-door effort. They weren't really targeting the vote by mail. That's not a shot at Jack at all, right? A lot of us weren't doing that in 2020 and 2021 because, you know, it wasn't something that Trump was pushing. And I was one of those people, vote on election day. But since we've adapted, we see New Jersey as a huge opportunity. It's why we're going all in. I think knocking these 500,000 doors and all the other groups that are helping register people are coalescing i think this is one to focus on that's why we've decided to go in and try to win just to add to that why it's a fun idea we have a headline
Starting point is 00:25:29 from axios this is just the other day democrats are fretting about new jersey governor's race that's one of the best reasons to do it if they're actually panicking and like laying the groundwork in advance for you know oh who they should blame for this and it says here that there is private polling that has shown the race within about three points and this is according to democrats who saw the results. So Democrats have internal polls that are telling them this is very close. This could go very badly. Question to you, Andy, when you see a Democrat poll that's like that, that's within three points, how do you interpret that being on the, if you're the campaign or you're the candidate and you
Starting point is 00:26:06 say, well, the Democrats have, the Democrats up by three, what is, you say that that's probably accurate? You say it's actually closer than that? I typically say it's probably dead heat because they kind of, it's tradition for them to skew sample selections and how they frame the question. If you do that, do you have a bias poll? And just getting back to the point on turnout and doing the knocking of the doors, if I can, just real quick, the Democrats have done this for many, many years. And we are now at their game.
Starting point is 00:26:39 And when we're at their game, because our message is better, because when we are actually out there not harvesting, but we're chasing and doing that better, we're going to win because they've been doing it, but they have a crappy message. If you do it when you have a good message, you're going to win.
Starting point is 00:26:57 I'm really excited. I'm excited about it because if you're part of a Democrat campaign, you don't want to release an internal poll that shows you down, right? That could demoralize the troops. So, you know, I tend to agree with you that it's probably even, right? Like, this is probably a dead heat. And there's little pieces of information that we can draw from. Like, throw up $2.99.
Starting point is 00:27:16 This is out of Nevada, Eric Darherty from Twitter post of this, but now there's been a flip in Nevada, which bodes well because we've been seeing these registration trends across the country from Pennsylvania Cliff in Arizona, certainly. Nevada now has flipped to more registered Republicans, just barely, but that was a gain of 6,000 in the month of September, net gain of 6,000. And so now Republicans are actually have more voter registrations in the state of Nevada. So we're seeing this trend nationwide, and that's starting to make states like New Jersey in play. Cliff, what are you seeing? Yeah, I think you're right. And look, I will tell you this. New Jersey is a much, much tougher battle than Pennsylvania was in 2024. Whether you look at the registration numbers, where you look at comparing 2020 to 2024,
Starting point is 00:28:08 there are plenty of ways to look at it. But I think the momentum is on our side. and look, I said this from the start. I think Jack is a great candidate. If you spend time with him, he's very personable. I've done a couple events and just he knows how to work through him. He connects. He's authentic. And so I think there's a lot of hope here for Jack, but you also have to count on the Democrats exposing themselves. And that's what's happening in New Jersey. Mikey Cheryl, I mean, she has had just flaw after flaw, misstep after misstep. And I just think that it's kind of culminating at the right time. And sometimes those things have to happen. I mean,
Starting point is 00:28:42 Even for us to win, the swing states we did in 2024, you have to have certain things happen that are outliers. Right? Donald Trump is getting shot in the ear. I'm not rooting for that. But at a certain point, like you have little pieces of things that fall in place, and that's how you can kind of build momentum. And I'm seeing it on the ground in Jersey.
Starting point is 00:28:59 That's great. And I do think some of these national trends and these national stories are playing into it as well. You can't discount the Charlie Kirk effect. That's one. But secondly, you have this Jay Jones story in Virginia that is got. to be putting a pall over a lot of the Democrat races, especially across that Eastern Seaboard. You've got to think that that's having an impact. And obviously, we're talking
Starting point is 00:29:21 about the story where he's leaking or these text change are showing that he wanted political violence or at least was fantasizing about or fetishizing or at the most charitable, like, joking about it. You know, it's tough to say exactly what that is. Cliff, where can people get involved? Sure, on X at Maloney. Appreciate you guys. Andy, great seeing you. Really appreciate it. like Andrew, you guys are the best. Awesome. Thanks, Cliff. We'll have you on again soon, my friend, to give us more updates on that race. This is the Charlie Kirk Show. We are all about saving babies with preborn.
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Starting point is 00:30:42 opportunity just a phone call or click away call 833 850229 or click on the pre-born banner at charliekirk.com so andy real quick we're going to get in some questions from the audience they're sending in for you um it just on a local level how can people get involved with your campaign if they're here in arizona or surrounding states how can they help i mean tell us where to go go to bigs for arizona dot com bigs for arizona dot com is that f-or or the number of r yeah spell it out F-O-R. Got it up on the screen. Yeah, there we go.
Starting point is 00:31:15 And that'll do it. You can link to donate. You can, and if you're in Arizona, please sign an electronic petition because those are not challengeable, and that's good. We've got over 10,000 of those. We have so many petitions, but our goal is 26,000 for 26, so. Fantastic. That's where we're going.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Really important to get involved, and yeah, donate. I mean, it is, on some level, you know, you're in a race. both from a messaging standpoint, but you've got to get your message out there. You've got to saturate the airways. So please get involved. And then you've got to staff. There's so many expenses that go into these campaigns.
Starting point is 00:31:51 So please consider doing that at bigs for Arizona.com. Blake, do we have any questions? We have a few. We have someone saying if Representative Biggs is going to eliminate property taxes. Do you say that or was it income tax? Income tax. So they were saying it applies equally that the way to fill the gap would be to move to consumption taxes.
Starting point is 00:32:11 How will we keep the people from being taxed to death when they buy a car or a house? Would that affect free markets and consumption? That's from Glenda. Yeah. So the way to think of it is we also have marvelous resources that we can get extraction fees for, and that will help. And so the other aspect to it is you actually free up land so we can build more houses. That will help as well. So there are ways to get at that, and we're ready to get at that.
Starting point is 00:32:41 So we're going to be okay. We'll, plus, as Andrew was saying, we're going to reduce spending in a lot of areas because there's so much fraud. You got one program that the estimate is $6 billion a year in fraud. So there's a lot of ways to clean this up. Yeah. We have more emails for him. Questions for Andy? We have Debbie, who's very upset that windmills are being built in Apache County, where I believe she lives.
Starting point is 00:33:03 She's asking, are you aware of this? And she says they will destroy beautiful northern Arizona. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Yeah. You know, she's exactly right, and they don't do much. And when they run out of their life, it's just this poisonous hole that's there, and it just stays there. So that's one of the reasons I'm for, let's get back to clean coal, natural gas, and nuclear.
Starting point is 00:33:28 That's where we need to be, and that's where I'll be fighting for. But I've also been fighting for it at the federal level. I'll just tell you that it was the Freedom Caucus and myself working with President and Trump, that's why you actually have these higher tariffs and these advisories that came out saying, unless you're actually in the ground with construction, you cannot get to a fan, fans, windmills, and, they're big fans. Yeah, they're big fans, windmills and solar. So we're fighting it at the federal level, too.
Starting point is 00:34:02 I have one from Greg. He says, do, you know, essentially, what has changed in ASE elections, do we have confidence that the same old shenanigans are not going to happen again. Yeah, so here's the way to think of it. President Trump just said, too big to rig, turning point got out enough voters that we were too big to rig. You have in Maricopa County, which is the problem county, you have a new county recorder who's running it with good county supervisors.
Starting point is 00:34:29 He's trying to clean up the vote. Yeah, Justin Heep. He's trying to clean up the voter rolls. If we can get the voter rolls cleaned up this time, get a good turnout, we should get a good win. win and then after we get that win we're going to fix it at the state legislature so we can codify the florida that was a really big election uh that i don't think necessarily all people are aware of justin heap at the county level in maricopa i mean in maricopa as maricopa goes so goes
Starting point is 00:34:56 arizona i mean there's there's yeah there would be math that maybe that wasn't the case but that's essentially the way the state is so to have justin in that place uh strong election integrity guy, a really big boost for the base for conservative. More? That's actually all the questions we have. No. Well, geez. I thought we got
Starting point is 00:35:17 more. So we have someone asking if we could ban Sharia law at the federal level. I think we'd support. So just so you know, my team is drafting a bill to do that very thing and there's another bill that I've signed on to that just doesn't have enough teeth in my opinion that kind of attacks it. Sharia law
Starting point is 00:35:34 is inconsistent with Americans constitutional law. So we've got to fix that and yeah, we're working on that at the federal level. Yeah, we've had that proposal. It's come up a few times since 9-11 and often I would roll my eyes at it.
Starting point is 00:35:49 I thought, okay, is this really a big deal? But now you look at, especially in European countries where it's getting to a higher percentage where you just have, you actually have lawmakers getting elected who say that they want it or you see, you know, if a city becomes entirely taken over
Starting point is 00:36:04 by Islamic representation, these sort of Sharia assumptions start to worm their way into things. So you actually can't ignore it anymore. Dearborn, Michigan. Think of Deerboard Michigan, which they want to impose Sharia law. In Deerborn, Michigan,
Starting point is 00:36:19 you've got a town in northern Texas. Same thing they're trying to impose Sharia law in those towns too. Yeah, well, and we've said this before, but there was a couple of things that Charlie really fixated on, you know, right up until the end, and one of them was, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:33 Islam and the fact that there were incompatibilities with Western societies, Western civilization. It was a really big call and a big warning to all of us and he was laser focused on that issue. And so it's, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:49 you'd like to think maybe in Arizona that's not as big of a problem, right? As it is in Dearborn, we all have to have our eyes on it, and I love that you're leading the charge at a federal level. We've got about a minute left here with you. Final pitch to the audience. can they do? How do they help? And how are we going to get this done?
Starting point is 00:37:07 So, yeah, bigs for Arizona.com. Please go there. Petitions. Amplifier, social media, that would be great. Donations are great. But let's just tell you real quick how we're going to fix this. So I told you that we're going to get these bills in line. But when they get in line, you still have two months to get sworn in. So we're going to get sworn in early in the morning, get those committees with all the bills assigned. So you go day one, day two, day three. First read, second read, third read. By the end of the week, I'll be signing bills like the election integrity, the Florida election integrity law, the anti-CC ownership in Arizona. These are the bills that we have to get through quickly. I know how to do it,
Starting point is 00:37:50 and that's why so many legislators current and former that are excited about my candidacy because they know how we do this and how we're going to get this and make it work. Well, God bless you, and we know that you not only are the right man for the job, but you know how to do the job already. So you're coming in with just a wealth of experience. Charlie was behind you. We are behind you. Turning point action is behind you. And we're going to get this done. And you're crushing in the pulse. So we like where we're at. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliecirk.com.

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