The Charlie Kirk Show - Ask Charlie Anything 221: The Lukewarm Christian Rut? No More College Non-Profits? Hope For Europe?

Episode Date: April 28, 2025

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Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks. I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of

this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA. We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here. noblegoldinvestments.com. That is noblegoldinvestments.com. It's where I buy all of my gold. Go to noblegoldinvestments.com. When you guys are members, you guys can ask us questions, members.charliekirk.com. That is members.charliekirk.com. We are assembling the questions right now and getting all the tech together. But I just want to recap what has been an extraordinary campus tour, extraordinary campus tour. And thank you guys for supporting it. Thank you guys for showing up and for listening and for engaging. That really means a lot. We are making a profound

difference. Our first question is from our friend of ours, Anthony. Anthony, thank you for being a member. What's on your mind? Happy Friday. Happy Friday, Charlie. The piggyback off of Chris Ruffo's part about colleges and you going on campus and doing your events better off to strip the nonprofit status away from schools so they would have to change hiring processes, change education processes, and be more streamlined to produce a better quality student and to bring in better quality workers? Because now they would have to think like a business and not like an educational institute. That's a good question. So first and foremost, if any of these camp colleges are caught violating the Supreme Court decision of the fair admissions case, they should lose their nonprofit status. Which I agree with. And even

more than that, this is where Congress is going to have to get involved, and it's going to be very difficult, is that Congress should say that these endowments need to be involved in helping make their graduates whole with their student loan debt. And honestly, these campuses should lose student loan access. That is the real penalty that we can issue. And also public humiliation. You have a nonprofit status because you are doing a public good. And so the question remains, if these universities are actively discriminating against people of a certain race, of which is happening all the time, Princeton violation of the core American values that we all care about. And so I think we need to have a full court press to disassemble these major Ivies unless they get in line. I can't stand anti-Semitism. I can't stand Jew hatred. However, going after these schools on the anti-Semitism stuff is actually the weakest of all the points that we could possibly go after them on because it's incredibly subjective. You may say, well, what do you mean it's subjective? Well, if someone writes an op-ed critical of Israel, is that anti-Semitism? That person could be an anti-Semite, but you don't know. Instead, you have to go after the money. You have to go after the factory of how

they're producing these very radical left-wing students. And so these students, these schools own data, which make it obvious. Their own data makes it obvious they're discriminating based on race, their own numbers. So we have to publicize that, hold them accountable and say that this has no place in our country. I think the fight is a great one for President Trump against Harvard, against Yale and Princeton and Stanford. But the best way to go after them is the fact that they are wildly discriminatory against people that are white and Asian. Anthony, thanks so much. Really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you, Charlie. Okay. Gracie, Gracie, thank you for being a member. Members.CharlieKirk.com. What's on your mind? Hey, Charlie, do you have any advice to get out of the lukewarm Christian rut that's so easy to

get stuck in after becoming saved and maintaining a relationship with God? That is a great question. So I get this question a lot. We've all been there. The best answer I have for you is to go deeper, which is to—the Scriptures are infinitely deep for anyone that wishes to study them, but they're also immediately accessible for the entire population. So my advice for you is to pick a part of the Bible that you really care about, maybe it's the book of John or maybe the book of Genesis, and study it. Really dive into it. Understand the profundity and the beauty of what you articulate, and all of a sudden your mind is going to start rolling like, wow, I never knew the civilizational implications of Genesis 1 or Genesis 2. To get out of that lukewarm Christian rut, the way I get out of it is by study and scholarship. That's not the way that everyone does. Some people get out of a lukewarm

Christian rut through community. They spend more time with people that are Christians, and that helps them get out of it. Some people buy acts of service. But for me, whenever I get into there, we all do. I haven't recently, to be perfectly honest with you. It's by better understanding and better appreciating the splendor and the wonder and the improbability of our faith and to appreciate that and to understand the philosophy and the grandeur of the Bible and to get back to the original Hebrew, to get back to the original Greek. There's so many resources I could point to, Gracie, if this is interesting to you. I don't know if the more scholarly, philosophical approach is. John MacArthur's biblical commentary on the book of

John is one of the best. Dennis Prager's Rational Bible—and we should all keep Dennis Prager in our prayers, by the way—on the book of Genesis, I think would really challenge you, Gracie, because you would come after your faith in a different perspective. You'd say, well, I never knew that. That fires me up. I want to share that with somebody. I never knew that would be some of my initial advice for you, Gracie. And then finally, which I'm sure you're doing, listening to worship music, keep, you know, continuing finding a good church. And look, finding a church also to get out of the kind of lukewarm Christian rut, my personal opinion is find a beautiful church. Find a church that is not just like going into a Costco or walking into a Home Depot, something that elevates the soul,

something that has beautiful art, that has reverence. I'm not Catholic, but I will, as I said last week, I will sometimes go to the local Catholic church because there's so much meaning and reverence in those cathedrals, more so than just walking into Sam's Club. And finally, you have to know, this is my last point, Gracie, it's a phenomenal question, thank you for it. You have to know how you are made to worship. Everyone is made to worship differently. I am mainly made to worship by study, scholarship, and sharing my faith, sharing my faith through my speeches, through my debates, through exploring the faith with other people. Other people are not made to worship that way. Other people are made to worship through

music, which I totally encourage a lot of people to see. is that the way that you are wired? Other people are made to worship through just reading the word. And so understand that being in a lukewarm Christian rut, there's nothing wrong with you. But it is a relationship with Jesus, not just a religion. But there's so much to explore there, Gracie. All of us have been through that. And so deeply appreciate that. And God bless you. Thank you. there's so much to explore there, Gracie. All of us have been through that. And so deeply appreciate that. And God bless you. Thank you. Thank you so much. And yes, so people are emailing us, freedom at charliekirk.com. Charlie,

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Okay, let's go to Scott. Scott, thank you for being a member, members.charliekirk.com. What's on your mind? Hey, Charlie, this is Scott. I'm from Boise. And I can't tell you enough how much Europe and Germany are at a tipping point for political transformation. And you're one of the few that sense that in the U.S. And your support for free speech, Alternative for Deutschland, is helping drive this change. So I have two questions. First, where are you going on your upcoming trip to Europe? And then a couple thoughts real quickly before I ask my second question.

I sent you a Make Europe Great Again hat for you to wear during your trip, and don't underestimate the symbolic power of this mega hat. I've lived and I've worked in Germany for several years. I speak German. Germans still follow American culture and politics closely. Some Germans on your trip may tell you it's impossible to hold your Q&A and events on German campuses. Don't listen to them. Even just a few events a year will help spread the MAGA and MEGA energy across Germany and Europe. So that's my second question. Are you planning future events in Germany to support free speech and political transformation? It's a really great question. Thank you. So firstly, I will be debating at the Oxford Union. That is my primary, let's just say, point of visit. I was going to go to Berlin with Dr. Jordan Peterson. That has been delayed and postponed. We're going to find a new

date for that as I think Dr. Peterson's European tour is being rescheduled. But yeah, my main visit will be at Oxford. I've been actually booked to do Oxford two or three times prior. And so I'm excited to be able to go to Oxford coming up in just a couple of weeks. And I agree completely. Now, the big issue is this. There's two issues. Europe does not have the American can-do spirit that we have. It's very hard to get them to build things and do things.

Very hard. They have this heaviness and a weight that they live under. That is a serious problem. The second of which is they don't have robust free speech. It's hard to build a political movement if you cannot speak. It's hard to oppose power if all of a sudden they're going to knock on your door and they're going to take your devices and arrest you in Germany. It's very difficult. And of course, the widespread regulations that just make political activism in Europe so much harder. European elites are far more anti-democracy, genuinely. They want an oligarchy. They do not want a people-powered populist movement. They're completely happy to lock out parties that get 25 or 30 percent of the vote. And it's sad. It's as Douglas Murray would say, it's the strange death of Europe. It's this slow motion decline. intergenerational guilt that somehow they have to try and pay penance for something their

grandparents did, or at least were associated with doing. And by doing so, they have to open up the borders of Europe and allow tens of millions of Mohammedans into Europe. And Islam is destroying Europe right now. It is from its core. And AFD in Germany, as you mentioned, yes, it might be the most popular party, but too bad. No one will work with you. They've had the boomer problem that we see also in America as well. Older European voters, they vote socialist. They just want their pensions. They care about nothing else. They will import infinite amount of immigrants to prop that up infinite. And so they're going to have unlimited amounts of people from Syria, from Egypt, nothing else. They will import infinite amount of immigrants to prop that up. Infinite. And so they're going to have unlimited amounts of people from Syria, from Egypt, from the Middle East, from Gaza, come right into Europe. Like, oh, well, diversity is our strength.

Not so much. Thank you. Really appreciate that. Email us. Yeah, really quick. Yes. So you talk about organizing events. I have a buddy of mine. He's a venture capitalist. He's done a lot with grassroots organizations in Germany. Don't give up. I sent you a five-point plan with a hat. I mean, people believe that you couldn't do this in America.

It is possible in Germany. Trust me if you have the right team. Just don't give up. All right. I haven't even started, let alone giving up, but I definitely see some of the challenges. Thank you for that. Really appreciate that. God bless you, man. I'll tell you, doing a Germany campus tour, that would be wild. Holy crow. That would be something else. They invented Antifa in Germany. Free speech is not a German value at all. It is not a value that they respect.

Power is a German value. Nihilism is a German value. Destruction is a German value. Efficiency, definitely a German value. Machination, that is a German value. Precision is a German value. Liberty, not a German value. No. And that is one of the issues. They are inherently a totalitarian people. They are wired differently. The world is waking up to the power of gold. National banks are scrambling to secure it. According to the World Gold Council, central banks added 1,000 tons of gold in 2024, the third straight year of net gold buying. They understand what many investors don't. Gold is real money.

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into doing that too okay let's get to our next question here caleb caleb great to hear from you thanks for being a member members dot charlie kirk dot com what is your question my friend hi charlie so um i just wanted to ask if you had any advice for young people who want to be politicians and make a change in their community? Yeah. So my first piece of advice is don't seek to be a politician. Seek to do good. And if being a politician is in the equation of doing good, then so be it. But just wanting to be a politician for the sake of being a politician, that can sometimes come with some rather dramatic downsides. Did you have a second question as well, or was that it?

Yes. My friend actually wanted to know. He had a question. He wanted to know who was your hardest person to debate. So I wouldn't say it was a debate, but let's just say the hardest conversation I've had, only because I don't like the smell of marijuana, was my conversation with Bill Maher. In fact, it turned out very well. People really liked it, which is phenomenal, praise God. And that is right now on the Charlie Kirk Show podcast menu. If you want to go through our podcast and listen to it,

we have an annotated version. My conversation with Bill Maher is there. So Bill treated me very well, except for the fact that I may or may not have gotten a secondhand high. Who knows? All I know is that there were three things that I felt after the Bill Maher conversation. I was very hungry. I was very paranoid. And I was very confused. I have no idea what could make you do this, have that. Be hungry, paranoid, and confused. Do you have any idea, Brian, what makes you do that? I don't know. I wonder. My team will tell you I was like hyper paranoid afterwards. Very unusual. Something makes you do that. Don't do weed. Okay. What is next? Who's next? Let's see. Thank you for your question. Appreciate that. Don't do weed. Okay, what is next? Who's next? Let's see.

Thank you for your question. Appreciate that. Have a good day. David, thank you for being a member. David, what's on your mind? Hey, how you doing, Charlie? Appreciate what you do. Good, happy Friday.

I'm at the AmFest in Arizona. Liking what you're doing. Keep doing what you're doing. We're in communist California. We're worried about the splitting the vote for the governor we got uh worried about the two uh we're trying to get get rid of newsom in in california and and uh the republicans take the uh take the governorship back because we it's trash out here totally so uh well the so newsom is termed out but uh you might get governor kamala harris man and so it'd be even worse oh my lord um uh we recently we had steve hilton on our show i don't know if you heard that

or not david but uh we endorsed steve h Hilton. But between Steve Hilton and the sheriff, the Riverside sheriff, Chad Bianco, that's probably all going to sort itself out in the primary. And then whoever wins the primary, we're going to get 100% behind. So it is going to be quite the spirited primary. I hope Steve wins, and then we can consolidate the entire party to launch a serious effort to win back the spirited primary. I hope Steve wins, and then we can consolidate the entire party to launch a serious effort to win back the governor's mansion in California. What part of California do you live in? We're in Southern California. We're in the Antelope Valley area. So we're trying to fight the fight out here. Very good. Well, thank you, my friend. God bless you, and thanks for being a member. Really appreciate it. Thank you.. Very good. Well, thank you, my friend. God bless you. And thanks for being a member.

Really appreciate it. Thank you. Okay. Matt, Matt, thank you for being a member. Members.CharlieKirk.com. What's on your mind? Hey, Charlie. Can you hear me out there?

Yes, I can. How are you? Wonderful. Happy Friday. And thanks for doing this. I just wanted to see, do you know if anything's being worked on at all regarding the census and congressional apportionment? I know that our majority would be larger if we only counted citizens. And I think the Biden administration, someone called the illegitimate Biden regime, sort of kind of played with the numbers and kind of rigged that last census and how it was laid out.

And I know it would just give us a much bigger margin to play with. There's also electoral vote strategy there, too, just around kind of correcting that apportionment with just citizens. Yeah, so there's a lot there. So let me just ask you a question. Like, on top of that, the major issue around, like, the citizenship question, have you heard anyone comment on that recently or kind of mention that? I'm just curious if that's as big of an issue. Well, there have been the case that went down a few years ago that we kind of went against us saying that it sort of couldn't be applied or whatever. And then we just had the one the other day that said that, you know, requiring it,

the citizenship question on the actual voter registration application got shot down. So, yeah, it's like, what do we do here? You know, it's like we're kind of getting blocked by these lawless judges at every turn. And it all plays into, you know, basically limiting our chances to enact the will of the people and give the Democrats, you know, essentially the blockade to thwart that. This is a major problem. So let me talk more macro, then I'll do micro. and they voted for something, and they donated for something, and they won, and then unelected judges get in the way from allowing that to happen. Just so we are clear, Congress would have to fund a new census in order to do this, and not counting non-citizens would require

friendly court rulings. It would be legal to do a new census, though, and probably desirable because the 2020 census was obviously mangled by COVID. I think President Trump should call another census. I believe it is the 14th Amendment that has the census in it. Right, Blake, if I'm not mistaken? The 14th Amendment has everything in it. It's got everything. The census—oh, is it in one of the articles?

It actually might be one in one of the articles. And it says census at least every 10 years. It does not have to be at 10 years, so even if it's within 10 years. But the 2020 census was so ridiculous. I think Minnesota got an extra electoral vote based on like 28 people. It was literally that ridiculous. That's right. It's Article I, Section 2. The census specifically in regards to the congressional apportionment is addressed in both Article 1 and Section 2 of the Constitution of the 14th Amendment. Yeah, so okay. That's right. And the 14th Amendment. I was right. So look, going back to the macro point, if millions of people vote for something and they get the opposite, what does that mean for our country? What does that mean for our system?

Nothing good. That is my biggest fear of everything happening right now. All right. Thank you so much. Ginny, Ginny, thank you for being a member. Members.CharlieKirk.com. What is on your mind? Hello. Welcome from my classroom. I just want to show my students in the background to be quiet. I have a big thing going on right now. I don't think it's discussed. My mom and I bought a house together in 2020. The taxes are just reassessed our property for double what it's worth. So that has increased our insurance. Our property taxes have gone up by hundreds.

We're funding schools that are failing. I wonder if this is happening to anybody else. We're not speaking, I don't think, about this as a collective. Am I alone? Or is this an underlying kind of usury issue that's happening in our country? It's a major issue. If I remember correctly, you're from Georgia. Am I right?

Or is my memory rusty? I'm from Dalton, but I live in Chattanooga. Got it. Okay, so I am right. Okay, so you live in Chattanooga. So property tax, so this is an insurance issue? Is that right? No, it's just the assessor of property. so this is a insurance issue is that right no but it's also the issue is the assessment yeah he reassessed our property we bought our house for around 280 in 2020 five years later he just assessed it for 486 no new construction haven't added haven't done anything

and it's double terrible this is a this is a yeah This is a major problem. And here's the issue. It's hindering kids from buying houses. It's jacking up the housing market. So you can't get low because they're just outrageously priced. Love this question. So hilariously, California actually has the model that the rest of the country should, you do not get reassessed unless you renovate, which is the way it should be, right? I mean, if you don't add a porch and if you don't add something, why would you get reassessed? It's basically a tax on your asset that gets more valuable. And then of course, the assessment. And funding the failing schools is a way for them to take money from us and we have no say in it.

Yes, and so this is why local politics matters a lot. And property tax caps are incredibly important. And property taxes as a – so the problem with the assessor is insurance is involved in this. Property tax, if you want to see upside-down property taxes, go to Cook County, Illinois. It is involved in this property tax. If you want to see upside down property taxes, go to Cook County, Illinois. It is the worst in the country where you have homes that are valued at eight, 900,000 and your property tax bill is 30 or $40,000 a year. Not a joke. I mean, it is your upside down the answer to your question though. And this is a very important point is that we focus so much on president Trump. We focus on Chuck Schumer. We focus on is you're upside down. The answer to your question, though, and this is a very important point,

is that we focus so much on President Trump. We focus on Chuck Schumer. We focus on Hakeem Jeffries. Local, local, local. These elections have almost no turnout. People tend to not care about them. This is why if you do not man the ship locally, things fall apart. I'm involved in my local politics in Arizona. I'm involved in my local politics in my community. I'm involved in my local politics in Arizona. I'm involved in my local politics in my community. I'm invoking my local HOA stuff because all politics is local at a fundamental issue. So, Ginny, you are not alone. And part of the problem is this is inflation. As asset prices have gone up dramatically over the last four years, people are getting reassessed. They say, what on earth? I'm earning less money per dollar

because of inflation. And now my house is worth double that I can't even sell. And now I have to pay more taxes, even though I have less money. Big problem. Thank you, Ginny. God bless and say hi to the class for me. YRefi has been the sponsor of this incredibly viral campus tour. Private student loan debt in America totals about $300 billion. About $45 billion of that is labeled as distressed. YRefi refinances distressed or defaulted private student loans that others won't touch.

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Um, I am interested in going into the U S marshal service. And when looking into the requirements of getting hired on there, they do require a degree, a law enforcement degree, or an extended amount of experience required. It doesn't specify, but my assumption would be five to 10 years in the field. I've kind of been set back a little bit because I broke my back last year. And so I was not able to take a field position, so I am still in the detention center. And I'm just curious to see what you would think if it would be worth it for me to go to an online university and get the degree in order to bump my chances of getting that job, or if I should just stick to it and spend the extra time getting the experience and potentially getting it that way. If you have a specific goal that a degree is needed for and the math works out, then go for

it. Our warnings are not to get aimless degrees. I can't comment specifically about online programs, but I'd ask somebody experienced in your field and maybe contact existing marshals. Why do you want to be a U.S. marshal? I want to make a difference. I want to make a bigger difference. I actually, the department that I work for has a lot of marshal contracts. So we do work with the marshals, not myself directly, but the people at my department do. And we hold a lot of marshal inmates. And I think that I could make a much better impact in some of these people's lives and help them become better members of society when they get out if I'm in a higher position. And that's my goal in law enforcement.

It's not for power or anything. I want to genuinely help people, and I want people to become better, better themselves, and get back into society as good, hardworking Americans. Well, God bless you for that. What state do you live in? Because we need more people that want to become a U.S. Marshal. Wyoming. Yeah, I was just there. I don't know if you know that or not. Yeah, great. I don't know where that is, but we had a great event yesterday in Laramie about 2000. Oh, Wheatland's not far. I'm actually looking at the map right now. So, oh, okay, great. Maybe I missed that.

So awesome. But well, very good. Thank you. God bless you. And thanks for being a member. Thank you so much. I actually had one more question if that's okay. I'm sorry.

Yeah, go ahead. Sure. Fine. Go ahead. My other question is I'm just, I'm kind of torn on this, but I'm curious to hear your opinion. Do you believe that men and women should be held to the same mental and physical standards when it comes to law enforcement? Um, because we are expected to complete the same tasks. Yes, 100%. Yes. And I

say that as someone, I know that I'm talking to someone that wants to be a woman in law enforcement, but yes, the same standard, same tasks. Absolutely. without a doubt. Yes. Okay, perfect. Thank you so much. God bless you. What is your perspective on that? I'm a little bit torn. I know just being in the industry, I would have to work a lot harder to meet the same standards as men, and I do not agree with lowering standards for everybody to be able to meet them. But I do believe that women should have to work a little bit harder because when it comes down to certain things, people's lives depend on us. And I do believe that we shouldn't be held to a lower standard than men because we need to be able to help people to the same degree. Look, if you are going to be in a situation where someone's life depends on you,

it should not have to be a question or a discussion. Well, is it a woman or is it a man that is gonna actually have to save your life? God bless you. Thanks so much. Happy Friday. Thank you. Thank you so much.

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