The Charlie Kirk Show - Ask Charlie Anything 226: Pre-Marriage Prep? The Future Of H-1Bs? The Secrets of Campus Success?

Episode Date: June 9, 2025

Charlie takes an hour of questions live from CK Exclusives subscribers, including:   -What discussions should you be sure to have before marrying your future spouse? -What is the future of skilled, legal immigration under Trump? -How should the ideal TPUSA chapter head behave?   Become an Exclusives subscriber and ask Charlie a question on-air by going to members.charliekirk.com.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here live from the Bitcoin.com studio. Happy Monday and Ask Me Anything episode. I give you marriage advice. You're going to love this for all the newly engaged couples, for newly married couples. I think you're going to really love it. I want your feedback on it. Email me, freedom at charliekirk.com. We talk about Elon.

We talk about Trump. We talk about California and more. Get involved with the most important organization in America, Turning Point USA at tpusa.com. That is tpusa.com. Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks. I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here. Noble Gold Investments is the official gold sponsor of The Charlie Kirk Show, a company that specializes in gold IRAs and physical delivery of precious metals. Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investments at noblegoldinvestments.com. That is noblegoldinvestments.com. It's where I buy all of my gold. Go to noblegoldinvestments.com. If you guys are members, you can ask us questions directly and come on the show. It is members.charliekirk.com, members.charliekirk.com. Gracie, thank you for being a member. Happy Friday. What's on your mind? Hey, Charlie, can you share some advice? I'm getting married this year and me and my fiance want to follow in the example of Christ. What steps can me and him

take in pursuing that? That is a great question. So I have several things to say. The first of which is a piece of advice that you'll probably not get. One of the biggest reasons why marriages fall apart and why people file for divorce is financial problems. You have to have the tough financial conversations before you get married. Who's in charge of the money? Who's going to work if you have kids? What is your current financial situation? How much do you have in savings?

Are you guys going to invest? Are you guys going to be aggressive in your investments? Are you going to take vacations? Are you guys going to be aggressive in your investments? Are you going to take vacations? Are you guys going to go out to eat? Methodical, transparent, very, let's just say, provocative conversations around finances means that you will have a healthier marriage. Talk early in your relationship about these things because people tend to avoid these conversations because they get too invested and they're afraid that these conversations might actually end up causing harm in the marriage.

So while you are in this fiance stage, it is very important that you get premarital counseling. You got to find a pastor to do that. But even beyond that, there is a checklist of like 50 questions that you have got to go through specific to finances. And there's not even right or wrong answers. But you have to definitely know who is going to be ultimately responsible for paying the bills. I tend to think that is the man's job. Not to say that has to be for every single family. It might work for you guys.

It might not. In our family, I'm in charge of all the finances. It works great. I'm in charge of the income. I'm in charge of paying the bills. It's great. It might not. In our family, I'm in charge of all the finances. It works great. I'm in charge of the income. I'm in charge of paying the bills. It's great. It works fine. Other families, they have a different configuration, but we established that. We established that early on. I'll be in charge of the money. You don't have to worry about it. You don't have to sweat about it. You don't have to have any concern for it. And so the finances in particular, because here's what happens when couples don't talk about it.

About a year into marriage, all of a sudden there'll be a conversation of, hold on, we don't have the money for that. Or what do you mean we're not going on a vacation? Or you don't realize how much debt that actually gets assumed into the family. You got to talk about, do you guys have student loan debt? Do you have medical debt? Do you have consumer debt? You got to put it all on the table. You got to have a come to truth, transparent conversation, but understand there is no my money or your money. It's our money. It's very important. When Eric and I talk, it is very, there is no like, oh, I earned this. It's we earned this. It is our money. It's very important. When Eric and I talk, there is no like, oh, I earned this.

It's we earned this. It is our money. It is shared resources. You are soulmates. In the Christian view, this is very important. You must view your marriage as covenantal. You see, a covenantal relationship is a very beautiful and holy thing. It is sacred.

In the scriptures, there are five examples of covenants, and the marriage is the sixth. There is the Noahic covenant, which God gave to Noah after the flood. There is the Abrahamic covenant, which he made with Abraham. There is the covenant with Israel, which, of course, happened with Jacob. There is the Davidic covenant, which David. And then, of course, there is the new covenant with Christ. This idea of covenant is that you don't keep score. It's not about pluses or minuses. It is a relationship of the agape love. But I see more

marriages fall apart on the finance question. And then the other question, this is where premarital counseling should flush this out. But you guys have just got to do the work yourself as well. Do you want to have kids? How many kids? And this is the other really critical important thing that, believe it or not, so many young couples do not recognize. I could do a whole seminar on this, by the way. You have to know your spouse's nature.

This is incredibly important. Is your spouse an extrovert or an introvert? Do they want to have an open house or a closed house? This is very important. You see, you get married to your spouse and you're in that honeymoon phase and you might think, oh, I grew up where we open up the house and the whole neighborhood comes and it's great and all the kids are over and you constantly have people around and you might not realize that your other spouse wants a closed house. There's no right or wrong answer, by the way. I grew up in more of a closed house. We didn't have a lot of people over all the time and it worked great,

but I knew that there were people down the street where constantly there was just, that's the house where you went to go play, where there were barbecues, you went to the pool party. It was an open house vibe. You have to know that with your spouse, because all of a sudden you get married six months in, and there's people just coming over. You're like, what is going on here? I need my space.

And then the final thing I'll say, again, I could do a whole seminar on this. I could write a whole book on this, is you have to isolate what are acceptable vices in your relationship. You must write down acceptable and unacceptable vices. It's very, very important. So for example, if you say, hey, we're going to be okay with drinking alcohol, write that down. And, but I say, how much alcohol are we going to be okay drinking? We'll do a only on Friday night. We'll have wine or on, you know, weeknights. We won't drink fine. Great. Write that down. Of course, an unacceptable vice would be, there'll be no tolerance whatsoever for pornography. Obviously. I think that's a good idea. Do that. Another advice will be, Hey,

we're only going to watch TV and at this time, and we'll try to stay within these rules. And the guy might say, Hey, I need at least Sundays to watch football and Saturdays to watch football. With Erica, when we went through premarital counseling, it was like, hey, I need Saturday mornings during college football season, basically all day, I just need to be able to watch college game day, need to be able to watch Oregon, I just need to be able to do my thing to watch football.

And she's like, great. And to know the vices specifically is very important. Not even vices. Not even a good way to say it. But let's just say the carve-outs that are not always things you want to do every single day. And then the other part, and this is where Dennis Prager got in a lot of trouble. But it's a very important thing. Very, very important, and this drives the feminists crazy, okay?

Women, you need to affirm your man for being loyal to you. Dennis Prager used to say this all the time. It drives feminists crazy. They're like, what do you mean you need to affirm it? It should be normal. There is a reason why adultery is in the Ten Commandments. Men have difficulty staying monogamous, and women should reassure and should affirm and encourage men when they are faithful. They should say, thank you for being faithful to me. Thank you for continually building into our

marriage. Again, some women go nuts when I say this. They say, well, I don't need to affirm my man. Yes, you do, actually, believe it or not. You do. And if you don't, you do not know male nature. God knew male nature so much, he built it right into the Decalogue. So, Gracie, I hope that's helpful. But just kind of the other components that are find a great church, find a really good pastor. And as Aristotle would say, a marriage is at its best. He would say

friendship, but marriage is at its best when you're not just looking at each other, but you're both looking at Jesus, when you're both looking at God. When you make God the transcendent third, as Bishop Barron would say, in your relationship, you are lifting up the marriage where it's not just about yourself or about each other. It's about something beyond that. And that is what will keep the marriage together when things get on the rocks. That is what will happen when things get a little shaky. And going to church and having those agreed upon spiritual disciplines. We do the Sabbath. We're big Sabbatarians in our family. It works for us. Your spouse is a friend, a lover, and a partner. And I'll be honest,

some young men that I see online that are super like anti-marriage, they are so missing out. It is an adventurous journey of depth and exploration and just kind of engaging in hookup culture that is so primal. It's so just fleshly oriented. It's challenging, but it is the greatest thing. And so I certainly hope for you the best, Gracie. Stay in touch, anything we could do. And congratulations on your upcoming marriage. And that was many years of wisdom that I just downloaded on you. So you can feel free to listen to that back.

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Is that even an option? It is an option. I think we should. The challenge is this, is that the AI people, the AI community, they claim there is just not enough American talent to be able to source the AI boom. I find that... It's a lie. Yeah. So can you riff on that? I think that's not true. I'm far from an expert. I'm an expert on several things, not on this. Do you think that is true, Matt? Well, I think that the H-1B program was designed and it's understood to be for kind of gaps and holes in the labor force that we can provide to fill. And it's become just a way to get a compliant labor force that will work for half the money and never complain because it will get deported because the sponsor will then leave.

And it's impacted our student loan prices. It's kept folks from starting families and buying homes. It's slowed down student loan prices. It's kept folks from starting families and buying homes. It's slowed down our entire generation. And with AI, as you were mentioning, it's only going to be expedited because there's going to be fewer opportunities to be had. And so we need to maximize every opportunity we have. And I think ending the H-1B program, accepting those kind of lower skill kind of gaps and holes, seasonal workers, et cetera, would be a great step for our generation. We need to shrink, if not NH1B.

But I think there is a conflation by some in the media. It is not the genius visa. I think you and I both agree, Matt. Genius visa is fine. Like a couple hundred super geniuses coming in, you and I think that's legit. That's fine. H1B, in fact, I think if it's a couple thousand geniuses, that's awesome. Like high IQ physicists, like the top of the top, I'm perfectly fine with that.

What H1B has become is a replacement of American labor for stuff that is like so – we looked through the H1B files back in December. They're replacing like hairdressers and nannies. Like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Like this is not at all what it was architected for. They use H-1B for entry level accountants at insurance companies. I'm sorry. Americans can do those jobs. So, Matt, what line of work are you in?

I'm a medical device sales manager. Great. Well, and I hope your job's not replaced by H-1B. But we need to it comes down to a fundamental thing. Do you believe American labor should be protected or do you think it should just be a feeding frenzy and just a major open border, just source of bedlam? And they use H-1B for IT companies that are almost all H-1B staffers. They're just a giant immigrant core, basically all from India. Matt, thank you so much. Really appreciate it. Thank you. Okay, who do we have

next? Thank you. And thank you for being a member. Jackson. Oh, I love that name. Jackson, thank you for being a member. Members.CharlieKirk.com. What's on your mind? Hi, Charlie. We spoke a few weeks ago about the best presidents, but I wanted to talk to you a bit more since I recently became the president of Turning Point USA at Dallas Baptist University. So I was wondering if you could give me some advice on how to run the organization since I'm trying to get it off the ground. Yeah, absolutely. Well, first of all, thank you for wanting and for being a Turning Point USA chapter leader. My best piece of advice is be likable. I know that this is a strange piece of advice. You want to be well-liked on campus. No one wants to join a political

movement if you're cruel and angry. This is where the left went so wrong. You don't have to overthink this. If you look at the left on campus, they're so unfriendly and unwelcoming. You just want to kind of be chill. You want to be cool. You want to be friendly. You want to be authentic. You want to be open to other ideas. You want to be firm in your belief system, but you don't want to be overly dogmatic in

your presentation. This is where the left has lost such footing on campuses. The first chapter that we had was at University of Wisconsin-Madison. It's our 13 year anniversary yesterday of Turning Point USA. I don't have time to tell the entire story, but so much of the conservative uptick on campus, thanks to Turning Point USA and the amazing Turning Point USA high school and college chapter network, partially is that the students that we recruit are athletes, they're sorority leaders, they're fraternity leaders. We have fun. And it's also, we're not going to scold you. One of my favorite words to describe the left is they are scolders. They are like hall monitors that's constantly critiquing that you're not fully in line with the catechism of the left-wing faith.

We're tolerant in the truest sense. It's fine. It's a college campus. Like, get over yourself. It's fine if somebody doesn't agree with you on gay marriage or whatever. And be firm in your beliefs. Be steadfast. Be uncompromising.

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I'm great. I just wanted to know what your thoughts were on Elon's statement of Trump being on the Epstein list. What do you thought his motive was? Because it was a bit shocking. And I'm always concerned when people go after someone's character so quickly like that when they might be upset. Yes. So thank you. Great question. I addressed this earlier in the program, but I don't anticipate everyone to watch. I also have an entire podcast on this. So two quick thoughts. And I'm not going to give you the full answer, Melissa, because it's going to take like an hour. First of all, in the actual Epstein files that have already been released, Donald Trump was mentioned, but not in an incriminating way.

He happened to run a club that Jeffrey Epstein went to and then got kicked out of. So just because you're mentioned in documents doesn't mean that you are incriminated in the criminal behavior. But let's also just kind of use some of our reason here. You're trying to believe that the Democrats who wanted to put Donald Trump in prison for 700 years, take away his business empire from him, be able to derail him. They dispatched Fannie Willis and Alvin Bragg

all the while they were sitting on a potential indictment of Donald Trump being in the Epstein files. If they really wanted to embarrass Donald Trump, they would have just released this part of the Epstein files, and it would have just been potentially catastrophic for him. So, no, there's nothing incriminating there. And also, just so we are clear, Jeffrey Epstein's lawyer, David Schoen, has come out and has said, Donald Trump has no incrimination whatsoever in any of the Epstein files. So it is an untrue attack. And I hope the two are able to reconcile soon.

Thank you so much. Really appreciate it, Melissa. Thank you. Thank you. OK, next question. David, David, thank you for being a member. What's on your mind? I really appreciate what you do. We're in communist California, and my question is, how do we vet the new or we're trying to get rid of the supermajority, and we want to get better people in there? Because the people that we have in California in the legislature are not listening to the people. Yes, and so it's going to be a very difficult climb in California to break the supermajority. It's going to start, though, with winning over Hispanics. That's a huge part of it. Trying to get better candidates up and down the ballot, and it's going to have to be nearly a decade-long fight.

Look, California is in a very, very tough position. It just is. Young people are coming our way. I actually think in the next 20 years we could turn California red. But it's going to take a lot of effort. It's going to take a lot of investment. And it's going to take a lot of time. But I love California.

I'm actually going to California tomorrow. I'm speaking at a pre-born event tomorrow in Orange County. Love California. Wish you guys the best. I'm here to help any way I possibly can. Thank you. Okay. I don't know if I'm reading this correctly, but okay. Got it. Ashish, thank you for being a member. Members.charliekirk.com. What's on your mind? Hey, Charlie. How are you? Good. How are you? Thanks for being a member.

I'm doing good. Thank you. And good afternoon. I wanted to ask a question. Me being a legal immigrant here in the United States, I came to this country knowing that it's the greatest Christian country on the world. So just wanted to know your thoughts on if the legal immigration system or rather the process will improve in the future or will it stay as it is or might get like shut down and for me should i keep pursuing my american dream or should i be ready to give it up got it just to reiterate you are legal correct is that right yes okay that's right you know what i need guys i need like a little sound board where i could push applause you know where i you push the applause yeah you know you deserve a little kind of soundboard i have no idea what the future of the legal immigration system will look like. I do think that we need to restrict it, especially on the family chain custody migration.

It is just that that is not merit based at its core. We want a restoration of meritocracy. I'll be honest. It's a little sad that you even have to ask if the American dream is still possible. I believe it is. But if you have demonstrated that you can assimilate, if you've demonstrated that you come here with skills, if you have if you can demonstrate that you love the country, then we'll be open to that. People will be more OK with skilled immigration when we've sent back the flood of illegals and the fake asylum seekers and the family migration flood of this country. Let me, besides my own opinion though, let me tell you, Ashish, President Donald Trump is a very pro-legal immigration president. And so I think based on everything you've described about yourself, you have very little to worry about. And so thank you. We believe immigration should always serve the nation. And Ashish, the fact that you're a member

at charliekirk.com shows that you've assimilated to this country beautifully. And so if I can ever help you, we need more people like you that love the country and want to fight for it. God bless you, my friend. Thank you very much. Thank you, Charlie. Jordan, thank you for being a member. Members.CharlieKirk.com. What's on your mind? Good morning, Charlie. How are you doing today? Good. How are you doing today? Good. How are you? Great. Thank you. How do we attract the younger voters to the Republican Party without compromising on the core conservative principles? It's a good question. In fact, the answer is in the question. We attract them by not compromising on our core conservative principles. The answer is actually in the question. And we've demonstrated that with our program, with our virality, with Turning Point USA.

It shocks people. When I go to college campuses, I make very firm, unapologetic arguments about things that we were told that you can't say that in front of younger audiences. And they're actually becoming more popular. This generation is increasingly religious. They are increasingly socially conservative. They are increasingly nationalistic. Gen Z is not the liberal generation at all that people think they are. In fact, we see this next generation, especially young men. They want a country of order. They want sovereignty. They want a nation of familiarity. They want neighbors, not strangers. They want children, not cats. And so I think that we're going to see a revival by not compromising on our core principles. And again, I always go back to Scripture. This country was founded on the promise of Scripture. Leviticus is literally on the Liberty Bell. Proclaim liberty throughout the land of which you are in. And I think we have to always go back to those eternal, ever-ringing promises that built Western civilization. And scripture is the foundation of which it was all built on.

Thank you very much. Really appreciate it. Absolutely. Thank you, Charlie. Okay. Next question here. Elizabeth, thank you for being a member. Members.CharlieKirk.com, what's on your mind? Hi, Charlie. I want to say thank you for everything you're doing, fixing the kids, fixing the schools, fixing fixing the government and I noticed with Turning Point Faith you've been trying to fix the churches and I love everybody you have on Frank Turek, Eric Metaxas, Lee Strobel, all of them and I was just wondering because I'm trying to like I'm buying their books and I'm reading the bible and I'm doing your wife's program has Turning Point Faith ever thought about getting your amazing Christian roster into a room and doing a Turning Point Faith Bible study? So great. I love I got 90 percent of that.

Can you repeat the end part of a Turning Point Faith Bible study? Is that the question? You have the people to make the greatest Bible study in the history of the world. That's a really good question. So what we are entertaining currently is taking what my wife Erica has created with Bible in 365. Which I do. Yeah, thank you. That's amazing. Everyone in this audience should do Biblein365.com. It's good for you. It's good for your soul.

It's good for your children and good for your country. Read the entire Bible. And that's what I always say to atheists. Before I'm going to take anything you say seriously, read the entire text, and then we'll have a conversation. Read the entire Bible. And that's what I always say to atheists. Before I'm going to take anything you say seriously, read the entire text, and then we'll have a conversation. Read the entire Bible. So we want to try to take what my wife Erica has done with Bible 365 and turn it into a Bible study. This is my concern, honest, not my concern, but my feedback.

Elizabeth, this is what the church should be doing. The fact the church is not doing robust Bible studies is a disappointment. It shouldn't have to be our role, but I love that, and I think that we need to bring more people back to the Word, bring people back to the Word of God. Again, you guys can have any opinion you want. If you're secular out there, if you're atheist out there, and you are listening, it is inarguable that Western foundation was built on the foundation of the scriptures. And if you want to take the scriptures away, you're going to take the foundation of which the entire house is built.

Thank you so much, Elizabeth. Really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you, Charles. Have a great weekend. And that is really why the West is best. This is one thing that the left can never answer. And I did this at Oxford and these videos are going super viral right now. And we're going to keep on pushing it on all of our social media, the Oxford and Gate interactions. What book, what author, what worldview, what idea, what creed do you want the West to live by? Tell me. I want you to, you don't want the Bible.

Got it. What author, what book, what worldview, what idea, and what creed do you want the West to live by? I just want to, and if you can't replace it with anything, then you are nothing more than a parasitic nihilist. That's exactly what you are. And they can't. Now, some of them will say, well, replace it with the Quran. Got it. So we now have a decision.

Do you want to live by the principles of Jesus or the principles of Muhammad? One said, love your enemies and blessed are the peacemakers. The other one was a slave trading warlord that married a nine-year-old. It's like, which one, or 13-year-old, whatever, I think Blake would know. Which worldview do you like? The principles of the scriptures or you say, oh, we're going to replace with secular humanism. Really? What creed, what book, what idea, what author, what worldview is that? And does it work and has it ever built anything? Oh, no. Do not cut for the life force that gave you life or else you end up like cut flowers where you have something beautiful for a little while and then it shrivels and dies.

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It's an honor to talk to you. My wife and I have five kiddos, and we've been working towards buying a house. We actually live in the Phoenix area and I've been wondering what the Trump administration may have up its sleeve to try to address the housing crisis amongst people of my generation. I'm a millennial so we're just kind of fighting the battle out here and wondering what may happen. It kind of seems a little ridiculous to me that we've got something like 15% of houses in Phoenix owned by these big real estate companies. So just would love to give you your thoughts on that. And if there's anything

in the big, beautiful bill that we should pass right away. Yes, sir. So great, great question that would address this. So, so a couple of things. So number one, mass deportations means less demand for housing. That's a big thing. And so the big, beautiful bill will help with that. Number two, your take home pay will increase under the big, beautiful bill, middle class tax cuts, child tax deduction. So that will this beautiful, big, beautiful bill does not cut as much spending as we'd like. But my goodness, we are going to see growth. Then interest rates can come down. And once interest rates come down, that will be the signal for mass home building. And then finally, President Donald Trump will finally President Donald Trump will open up federal lands for homes, which we absolutely should do.

The federal government owns way too much land out west. And by the way, I think we should really entertain banning these big conglomerates from taking up housing inventory. I don't think that you as a father of five, an American, and we have a social contract and a compact to you as a father of five should have to compete against BlackRock for a home. I think it's insane, actually. I think that we should put you first and not have some big conglomerate swoop in with a cash offer. If you're trying to get a house for your five kids, God bless you, man. Thank you for me member. And, um, you are what makes America great. Five

children. I love it. Thank you. Thank you. Last question, Greg, Greg, thank you for being a member members.charliekirk.com. What's on your mind. Hi, Charlie. Great to talk with you. Um, real quick. Amfest was really great last year. I can't believe I got the chance to go and I love it. And I'm looking forward to it again this year. It's great to see people outside of a screen and in person and live. It was so great. Phenomenal. In California, you kind of answered it with the other members question, but how do we, how do we kind of unite? I know Steve Hilton has his golden together and Rick Grinnell has his fixed California. But if we could take the turning point action and what you guys did with Arizona and your door knocking and boots on the ground.

How do we get, get that going in California better for next year's primary especially because we got to get a Republican across the finish line for the, for the primary. Cause we do talk to here and it's not just the governor, it's across the board. How do we get competent people into these offices? I don't know if you're familiar with the insurance crisis we have going on in California. The, our insurance commissioner, he, I mean, so what? He's the first gay man to be in that office. Great. But he doesn't know anything about insurance. It's terrible. My insurance went up 52% this year. Like, are you kidding me? But don't you feel better that you have a gay guy running the insurance commissioner? Come on. Diversity

is our strength. Progress is the end point. I mean, it's laughable. Maybe you want a qualified person, not just someone that has a gay pride. pride exactly so how do we get the message across to get competent people we need to stop voting for democrat or republican we need to vote are you good can you do the job so there's a lot of components of this look california is a long-term project i will be very honest we are not at turning point action going to be heavily investing in california we're doing all of our youth stuff in california we got to pick what states we're going to invest in. Arizona is number one, number two, and number three on our priority list. I do not want you to give up in California. There is so much goodness in California. People think I'm crazy. I am more optimistic about California than Illinois,

more optimistic about California than New York. Look, as long as California is a blue state, it is going to be incredibly difficult in the current margins that we have right now. And look, it's kind of funny. As long as California is a blue state, it's frankly better in some ways to lose it by 5 million votes than like 500,000 because those Dems and Libs haven't left for Nevada or Texas or Arizona. But we're helping Steve Hilton in any way we can. You guys shouldn't give up. You should hold the line.

And long term, eventually we can flip California, but it's not going to happen overnight. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening and God bless. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.