The Charlie Kirk Show - Ask Charlie Anything 229: Tucker vs. Ted? AI in Education? From Fiction to Nonfiction?

Episode Date: June 30, 2025

Charlie takes an hour of questions live from CK Exclusives subscribers, including:   -Who had the best of the Tucker Carlson/Ted Cruz debate? -Does AI have a role to play in education, or should it be banned? -What are the secrets to writing a non-fiction work?   Become an Exclusives subscriber and ask Charlie a question on-air by going to members.charliekirk.com.Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Go to noblegoldinvestments.com. Okay, it's my favorite hour of the week. I love this. Last week was a little unusual, but it was still great. We had some very contrarian opinions, I would say at least, but hey, that's what it's all about. It's our members call where you guys are allowed on the program. It's members.charliekirk.com.

That is members.charliekirk.com to join the program. I want to try to get to questions that I've never asked before, Daisy, if we can, if we can try to go to first time questioners, if possible. Let's go to Patrick. Patrick, happy Friday. Thank you for being a member. What's on your mind? First, God bless America and God bless President Trump for the huge win in the Supreme Court today. That was just huge. Incredible. Amen.

So my question, I've been reading your book on wokeism and I watched the video of Ted Cruz and Tucker Carlson. and I watched the video of Ted Cruz and Tucker Carlson. And I think as a threat to America, I think the biggest threat isn't so much Democrats, but rhinos, fake Republicans. What's your opinion on how we handle the rhinos? And what's also your opinion of the video, if you've seen it, of Ted Cruz and Tucker Carlson? Yeah, so I'll answer the Ted and Tucker one. So I think we commented on this on thought crime. I'm friends with both of them. I'm very careful to ever shoot inside the tent,

unless it's Lindsey Graham and James Lankford or John Bolton or Liz Cheney. That's a whole different threshold when they're just not with us. But I'm very careful, especially where Ted is with us on almost every issue, right? Tucker, Ted is with us on almost every issue, right? Ted is with us on the border, he's with us on abortion, he's with us with guns, he's with us on the Constitution.

I will say if you listen to the long-form discussion between Ted Cruz and Tucker, I think Ted did a better job of representing his position than some of the clips would have necessarily portrayed him as. Now Tucker got at very important points, however. Any time we're considering war, we should know a lot about what we are doing. Not just like, oh, I don't study population tables. Senator Cruz, I've known you for a while. You should know that. You should know it's 92 million people.

You should know the intricacies of the Persian people. You're a U.S. senator calling for regime change. That's not a gotcha question. We have put you there to know a lot about stuff, especially basic stuff about countries that you talk a lot about. But I will say, though, that when Ted Cruz was using a biblical basis for backing Israel, he did not do the best possible job. And again, I am very close to a lot in the dispensational world. Jack Kibbs, for example, who's a dear friend and mentor of mine, James Kadees.

I am far from a theologian. I know the theology, let's just say, minimally well at best. I could be conversant about it, but even I know Genesis 12.3, and I know the context about it. An even better argument would have been Ezekiel 36, 37, 38, which prophesies about how Jews are scattered all across the world and they will be reconstituted back into a nation. A better argument to be made would have been about the land rights given to Israel and the eternal promise given to Israel. And kind of, in my opinion, kind of clumsily walking around, not even

knowing Genesis 12 three3 was not the best presentation of what even Ted Cruz was trying to say. Now I will say this as I am more in Tucker's camp when it comes to foreign policy without a shadow of a doubt. And I'm probably more in Ted Cruz's camp when it comes from a theological perspective. And so I think that there is a third way outside of just the yelling at each other on this issue, which is that we should always serve America and America first,

and our obligation is to America, but understand some of these theological issues as well. So, all that to say, as you know on this program, I'm very war-weary. I think our intel agencies have led us astray the last 20 years. I think Iraq was a disaster. I think Libya was a disaster. I think Libya was a disaster. I think Syria was a disaster. And Afghanistan was a disaster.

And what was very interesting is that President Trump, he pioneered a third way. He's not an isolationist. He's not an interventionist. And that third way is one of prudence, decisive, quick, violent action, and no permanent war. To your other question, you asked about what do we do to keep our RINOs accountable. If anyone listening to this right now lives in the great state of Kentucky, I am doing an event with Nate Morris. We had Nate on this program. Nate is a business guy. He is not a neocon. He is

running against the McConnell mafia. He is the only Senate candidate who is outwardly and vocally running up against the McConnell mafia for that that open Senate seat and so I'm doing an event with Nate Morris because I think it's important that we lend our voice and our activism and our platform to try and change the US Senate for the better. It is by far the most broken institution. The House is broken but the Senate is far more broken and in my personal opinion I believe that Nate Morris is the best candidate there and look, people can disagree on that, but we should all agree, we need someone who is not part of that McConnell tribe. So if you guys want to come to that event, we're

going to post all the details at Charlie Kirk dot com. That is Charlie Kirk dot com. If you want to come see me in one of the suburbs outside of Louisville. Okay. Thank you for your question and really appreciate you being a member. Josh, what's on your mind? Joshmembers.charliekirk.com. That is members.charliekirk.com. Josh, what's on your mind? Hey, how's it going?

I wanted to ask about AI in education specifically. Yes, sir. My view is that I don't think AI should be allowed in education, especially not high school. And then I don't think it should be in college either. But I'm open-minded. I could be convinced either way. But I want to hear your thoughts,

and I can add a little bit after. So your question is, should AI be involved in higher education? Is that right? Like AI as teachers or AI as supplemental technology? Should students be allowed to use it to complete their assignments and things like that? So great question.

I have a very direct theory on this. There's no getting away from AI. So students should learn how to use it. However, we have to make sure that students still have the capacity to think, still have students the capacity to write without AI. So here's how to think, I think, the way it should work. You can do all of your study, all of your preparation at home with AI, but every teacher in America should carve out time that there are in-class tests without phones, without laptops, and just a pen or a pencil and a piece of paper. If you want to use AI as a preparatory tool, if you want to use AI as a tutor at home, God bless you. That's fine. Great. But the assignment that should weigh the heaviest, and I hope every teacher listening to this understands this, the assignment that should

have the most weight for your grade should be a non-technology in-class test where students have to prove that they can still write with their hand. Not on a laptop, no internet connection, and pure confiscation of all the phones. Put your phones in this, put your phones in the bucket, put your phones in the bag, we're closing it. Boom, here's a piece of paper, here is your pen, here is a pencil. By the way, bring back cursive while we're at it. Cursive is good for the brain.

Cursive is very good for the brain. It is. A lot of studies show that if you're able to write cursive, you're more creative, you're more analytical, you're more creative. You're more analytical You're more fair-minded and I know this is not the best argument, but if you cannot read the Declaration of Independence Our educational system has failed you. I'm sorry. Just wait it if you cannot read the declaration our education system has failed you So you've heard me talk about patriot mobile for a while now you probably already know that for years They've stood in the gap for every American

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partner and a very good tutor. I do it all the time. For example, when I was preparing for the program the other day and I want to learn more about Islam, I spent an hour with ChatGPT just asking questions about Islam. Do they believe that Muhammad is sinless? Do they believe that Muhammad is the greatest person ever lived?

Was Muhammad in the Quran? And what is a Hadith? I can get so much quicker on ChatGPT if I want to learn. So I don't use ChatGPT to like, oh, you know, write that, that's much BS. Instead, it's like help with research. So for example, when I was doing research for my upcoming book about the Sabbath, oh my goodness, it was so much more helpful than just

going through endless Google searches. I was like, can you please find the three Bible verses that talk about the Sabbath? I think I'm remembering correctly, it's an Exodus and the difference that it is in Deuteronomy. It's a tool and it was a maximalization for me. And so if students use it as a tool to actually become better human beings, great, but they need to prove that they become better human beings. They need to prove, Josh, your thoughts. Oh, sorry. So my main thing is like you, the way you use it is very discretionary, but obviously a lot of the kids that are using it nowadays, they don't have that type of discretion. And that's where I see a big issue is like,

how can you teach them like to, like what's your method to teach them? Like this is how you should be using AI, this is how you should. Like who's responsible for that? The parenting plus the teacher, but also you need the forcing function of the test without AI. They will learn how to use AI for the better if all of a sudden they are locked in a room

and there is no technology and their entire grade is weighted on what they're about to write on that piece of paper. Yes, sir. And by the way, teachers want to be paid a ton of money. Maybe we should start expecting something of them. Teachers should start to teach kids, here's how you use AI for the good, like I just described, right? Use it as a thinking partner. On one topic, I can learn more about something because I ask the critical questions, right? Because there's like very specific things that I want to know about Islam, for example. I say, list the top 50 Islamic countries and tell me which ones allow female general immunization. And I say, even say, create a chart, list 50 Islamic countries, their GDP per capita,

their total GDP, whether or not they have robust private property rights, separation of powers, whether that they have freedom of speech, can you insult the Prophet Muhammad? Can you know? And basically, there's a whole chart that is created and then I'm able to study it and then ask more questions. So basically, chat GPT allows me to become a better

spokesperson, a better thinker, not as a replacement, but it involves thinking. It actually involves thinking on my side, and then I have to remember it. And even at sometimes, if I do an hour chat GPT, this is what I do, is that I'll then, I'll say, now create a test of everything I just learned. I copy paste it, I send it to Danny.

I send it to Mikey. I say, guys, print this out. Put it on my desk. And I take the test after an hour of working with ChatGBT. So then I internalize it. So then I have to take a test. Again, so what it's done for me, it makes me better at my Q&As on campus.

It's funny. Some of these kids come up to the mic, and they have AI in their hand. And they're trying to, I now have to debate AI, which again, if for me to be debate AI, I have to sometimes use it, you could say to become better at what I do. Matt is a member members dot Charlie Kirk dot com. If you want to join this program, Matt, what is on your mind? Hey, Charlie, good afternoon. And on the East Coast, thank you for all you do, as always. And my question was around this birthright citizenship situation.

Obviously, we've got a good initial ruling out of SCOTUS today. But I think the law is not always the only way to get victory. We have to push public opinion, I think, in between now and the final ruling. I think there's an option or opportunity there, particularly around Black Americans, to say, look, they're essentially devaluing your ancestors'

slavery because this was not designed for people to come on vacation or hop across the border, have a baby that the system has to pay for, and then they're a citizen equally to you. And I just think if we message around this properly, we can make this decision happen and codify it as well. Right. So there's lots of that question. And so I think the most important thing about codification and to codify is involving Congress, is involving Congress to actually codify these victories because otherwise it's just one simple executive order after the other. Now the long-term solution is actually getting the congressional kind of committee on board. Now regarding birthrights, did you know that in 2023 there were between 225,000 and 250,000 babies

born to illegal immigrants. That's more than the babies born in all but two US states taken individually. It's also more than the number of babies born to legal non-citizens per the Center for Immigration Studies. Right now, there are reports of expectant mothers who are either illegal or in the United States under temporary parole lining up for preterm C-sections to beat President Trump's cutoff date which was back in February. This was written back in January. Wow. Now just so you know that two Supreme Court cases upheld that the 14th Amendment excludes citizens of foreign

countries born in the United States. The 14th Amendment did not originally grant citizenship to American Indians. Why not? Because they were considered to hold allegiances to tribal nations and were only partially considered to be subject to the jurisdiction of the government. This was always about children of slaves. It was always about slave children, not some random CCP birth tourist. And let me repeat, two Supreme Court cases upheld, the 14th Amendment explicitly excludes the citizens of foreign countries born in the United States. The slaughterhouse cases and Elk v. Wilkins. So what exactly is the case that they point to?

Well, the one that they point to is in the late 1800s, like 1897, there was a quite the Wong Kim Ark case was about the children of legal residents or the children of legal residents, U.S. citizens. The United States Supreme Court has actually not weighed in on whether in recent memory or recent times on the children of illegal aliens. That is the brilliance of President Trump's birthright citizenship executive order. The left just reached for this and took it and nobody stopped them. Let me repeat, the left reached for this and George W. Bush didn't stop them.

Ronald Reagan did not stop them. And by the way, just so we're clear, a lot of people love Reagan. Reagan was good at a lot of stuff, but he was terrible on immigration. I'm sorry to break your kind of mythology of Reagan. He was awful. He did amnesty. He was big on giving people citizenship. Reagan's good intentions that not equal good public policy. He gave us no fault divorce and a lot of debt. Reagan did some good stuff but he was not the hero a lot of people unnecessarily think he was. And a deep blue California. Oh yeah no. He helped destroy California without a doubt

and he knows it and he said it back. He said it was one of his greatest regrets. The 14th, this is from the Senate floor debating the 14th Amendment. Quote, the 14th Amendment will not of course include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers,

accredited to the government of the United States, but will include very other class of persons. So understand President Trump's brilliance here. He is forcing this case to the top of the U.S. Supreme Court. He is forcing this case in a very, very quick way. And so I got to be honest that if we are able to strip away birthright citizenship if we are a way to if we are able to strip away this sort of scam This will be a mass

Destabilization in a way that of the American left in a way that we could never have imagined Thank you for being a member and thank you for your time. Yes final thought Yes, that's the big incentive right there is is oh my gosh We show up and we'll make money under the table, drop the baby, automatic citizen, and then pulling benefits off of the child, the now a citizen. So, legals do get benefits off of the children they have here when they show up. 100%.

Well said. Thank you so much. Thanks for being a member. Thanks, Charlie. Ask 10 people to define the word capitalism. How many different responses do you think you'll get? This is a word that comes up all the time, but does anyone know what it really means? Do you?

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of the war-torn country of Iran say so blatantly and foolishly that he won the war with Israel when he knows his statement is a lie? It is not so. As a man of great faith, he is not supposed to lie. Whoo. His country was decimated. His three evil nuclear sites were obliterated. I knew exactly where he was sheltered and would not let Israel or the U.S. armed forces by the greatest and most powerful in the world terminate his life.

In all caps, I saved him from a very ugly and ignominious death. Now, that is not a thank you, President Trump. In fact, in the final act of war, I demanded that Israel bring back a very large group of planes which were headed directly to Tehran looking for a big day, perhaps the final knockout. Tremendous damage would have ensued and many Iranians would have been killed. It was going to be the biggest attack of the war by far. During the last few days, I was working on the possible removal of sanctions and other things which would have given a much better chance to Iran at a full, fast and complete recovery. The sanctions are biting, but no, instead I get hit with a statement of anger, hatred and disgust and immediately dropped all work on sanction relief and more.

Iran has to get back into the world order flow. His vocab choices, his diction is amazing. Back into the world order flow, or things will only get worse for them. They're always so angry, hostile, and unhappy. Kind of like the American left. And look at what it has gotten them. A burned out, blown up country with no future,

a decimated military, a horrible economy and death, all caps around them. All around them. They have no hope and will only get worse. I wish the leadership of Iran would realize you often get more with all caps honey than you do with vinegar and then all caps peace. I'm telling you, there will never be another like Trump. It's as good as it gets he is he is

You know how sometimes you get to use his word the flow state you just kind of in flow state He's got the hot hand. You just got to feed the hot hand. You just got to feed it. He is just He is Michael Jordan game six He is the goat. He's the greatest of all time. Joining us now, who do we have? The name is Cleopatra. You are the first Cleopatra I've ever met. Thank you for being a member. What's on your mind? Hi Charlie. I am an author and I've published 14 fiction books. Wow. But I'm currently drafting my first non-fiction book titled The Rebellious Generation. So my question is to ask what advice you have for researching slash writing nonfiction.

Wow. So first of all, you have 14 fiction books. What is your name? My author name is Cleopatra Margot, and that's with a T at the end of Margot. And I see. Yeah, you got a big cannon here. You've written a lot. Wow. How are these books performed? Pretty good, actually. I'm in the process of rebranding them right now, my three newest ones. So that's been kind of like over the last six to seven months, I've been kind of

like pulling back from marketing and refocusing on just like revamping them a little bit. But yeah. So you've written 14 books. You have 3000 ratings on Goodreads. That's a big deal. I mean, that's real. So before I go further, what genre do you usually write on here?

And how did you get your start writing this many fiction books? So I was homeschooled from fifth grade on. So I've always loved to read and write. And so back in 2017, I was able to meet Jeanette Oak, who kind of pioneered the Christian fiction genre. My family and I traveled out to Canada and we went to like the reunion for one of her books was turned into a show.

And so that's when I kind of got my start writing fiction. So I write, currently I write classy contemporary lakeside fiction. But my first series, I'm from Nebraska, so my first series is based in like my hometown of where I came from. That's amazing. Cleopatra Margo, that's phenomenal. So your question was, how do you research nonfiction? So what topic are you going after in your nonfiction work? So I'm titling it The Rebellious Generation. I'm kind of talking about the whole mentality of like, I'm calling it Me-dom, which means kind of just like, worshipping the self over

God and how people are so entitled to their own opinion and not, you know, absolute truth. And so that's kind of the topic that I'm writing about. So as far as the research, try to find original source documents and peer of either peer reviewed or widely accepted studies. AI can help, but be careful. AI can have a lot of slop in it. So you got to double check its work. So I'd be very careful with that. It can help you as long as a thinking partner of what you are trying to accomplish, though, as I mentioned in a prior segment, but original source documents are the best possible thing to do.

And especially if you're trying to look for data or surveys, it's going to take time research of a book is sometimes the the deepest, most time intensive component of it. of it. Blake did all the research and kind of compiling of my last book on right wing revolution and it took him probably 20 to 30 hours of research and so Margo if you'd like I can connect you on on email with Blake and he can help you um kind of put that together it is right wing revolution and no it's a it's a heavy amount of research and reading um just on the research side of things. I was just saying the research Blake, not the writing. Blake says it took a lot more than that. I said 20 to 30 hours of research. Maybe it took even more than that of research, but it's a huge labor. So maybe it took a hundred hours of research. So anyway, thank you so much, Margo, for your time. I really

appreciate it. Thank you. Okay. I should say clear patch for Margo. So, Anne, Anne, what's on your mind? Thanks for being a member. Members.CharlieKirk.com. Okay. Hi, Charlie. I've been aware of the Senate.

This is her question. Charlie, I've been aware of the Senate parliamentarian's power for some time, and I'm surprised MAGA didn't notice it much before this. I know you said not to worry too much, but it seems to me that Thune could and should have removed this deep state appointee of Harry Reid in 2012, particularly in light of the change in the fifth Republican party who were no longer interested in the Uriana party. Is there potential for Thune to remove her? If not, can VP Pants advance override it?

It's a great question. Look, I did a whole program on it yesterday. Things are mildly improving with this parliamentarian, Elizabeth McDonough, but we are still a ways out from having the declarative decisions that we need from her that are consistent with our policy agenda. I do not think that dismissal should be off the table. I think that if we have a repeated, ridiculous, grotesque pattern of behavior from McDonough, dismissal can happen from Thune or basically JD, they can make the call. But understand that if we dismiss

too arbitrarily, I know no one wants to hear this, there will be a revolt from Lindsey Graham and Susan Collins because they're institutionalists. You can't lose those guys and you don't want to have a revolt on one side and then you could potentially turn her into a martyr where she could go to the New York Times, she should go to CNN, all of a sudden she'll say that the Trump administration is trying to do illegal stuff. So we're trying to be reserved, we're trying to hold our kapow power before we, as it reaches that level.

There was a tweet sent out yesterday, so let me read this tweet here. It was from the vice president's office that sent it to me. This is from the VP's office. No, let me just really quick. Senate Republicans are walking out their lunch with a pep in their step regarding the parliamentarian and Medicaid provisions quote, I feel much better after lunch, it looks like there are issues that can be resolved. So remember what I told you guys yesterday. A lot of these issues can actually be solved with a wording change.

OK, let's get to the next question here. Members.CharlieKirk.com. That is Members.CharlieKirk.com. Lisa, Lisa, thank you for being a member. What is on your mind? Hi, Charlie. I just now saw your interview with Harmeet Dhillon and I'm not an attorney and I have not listened to the entire interview,

but, and she may have some process or game plan. She's from California also. Did she explain why the DOJ is handling a performative issue at the Orange County level and not the civil rights issue from a federal level. Our civil rights are being violated here in California, but in many and most states across the United States. The U.S. Constitution in Article 1, Section 2, the House of Representatives shall be composed of members chosen every second year by

the people of the several states. That's not happening. Not only are there non-citizens voting here in Orange County, one out of every five vote is either a non-citizen, ineligible, or simply does not exist. Our voting system is tainted, and if it's tainted in any way our civil rights are being violated. Do you agree? Yes, I do. It depends to the extent and I mean it depends on how many of these phantom and fake voters actually are and I think I think Harmeet Dhillon is uniquely positioned to be a look into this which of course is a disenfranchisement of people's civil rights. I mean, Andrew lives in California. A lot of our friends live in California.

And if people who are voting who should not be voting like illegal aliens and illegal citizens, then that is disenfranchising your right to vote. So I think we should give Harmeet Dhillon all the possible firepower and backing that we can. So I- Yes, she has all of our support. I love that.

As does Bill O'Shailey and Michael Gates. What part of California are you from? San Clemente, Southern California. Oh, it's beautiful. You live in paradise. Isn't it terrible what they've done to California? It's just a tragedy. Breaks my heart.

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Like I think we've watered down what it means to be an American, or at least we're not talking about what it means to be an American. And we've lost our sense of community. Like we don't, I don't feel like we love our neighbors. We don't look out for each other. We don't ask questions. We don't have each other's phone numbers.

Totally. We're scared to knock on doors. Like, if I don't text somebody first or they don't know that I'm coming and I knock on their door, are they even gonna answer? Like, I'm in the neighbor. We should have concern for our neighbors

and look out for each other. What do we do? We gotta bring that back. I don't know if it's the church. I know you talk a lot about spirituality in the church and going to church and getting back to those roots, but I think we need to get back to saying, yes, ma'am. Yes, sir. No, thank you. You know, clean up our language, clean up our attitudes towards each other. And maybe church is where it's at. I'm not sure. I totally, so a couple thoughts. I totally agree.

Ever since we've had mass immigration, we've had a breakdown in social trust, social cohesion. Our schools, our hospitals, our social services are flooded, and we are a nation of strangers. We lock our doors and we keep our head down on the phone. Now, a lot of this is just phones, honestly. A lot of this is just smartphones and the supercomputers in our pocket that we're staring at all day long, is that people increasingly do not have in real life experiences. And it should be the church and it should be a bottom-up grassroots revival of us demanding better that we shouldn't have to be staring at these things all day long,

that we should get to know our neighbors by name and that we should have block parties and make food and meals for our neighbor. I mean, I'm in a unique position where I get, I know my neighbors, my neighbors are awesome, but we've gone out of our way to get to our neighbors. Know their birthdays, know their kids names, know their struggles, and it could be something as simple as you should be proactive to your neighbor like, hey, can I pray for you? Can I send over a meal? Find someone in your local community that might be a new mom and be like, I'm just gonna provide meals for you one night a week for a couple months. There's so much, you see, the gospel of Jesus Christ can be synthesized to four words, love

God and love people. And we're doing bad with both right now in America. We have to do a better job of loving people, of being unafraid to serve others. This is what makes Christianity the greatest of all the faiths, because we're told to die to ourself, to Christ and to serve others even if it's at an expense to ourself. It's a very harsh teaching, a very difficult teaching. So I completely agree.

I would like to think that mass deportations will help as we should do it. But this has been a trend for a long time. Bowling Alone was a big book on this. But a lot of this really became noticeable in the 1990s and we're seeing it crescendo every year. Jean Claude, I know Jean Claude. I wonder if this is the same Jean Claude. Thank you for being a member. Members.CharlieKirk.com. What's on your mind? Hi, can you hear me? Yes, how are you? Good. I saw you at Amfest. I don't think I'm the same one you met, but I didn't meet you there.

Probably not. I live in Washington. I live in Washington state on the same one you met, but I didn't meet you there. Probably not. I live in Washington. I live in Washington state on the eastern side of the state. I don't expect you to come here and save my state, but I just want to know if I were to really try and do something, what would it be? What are the chances anything could happen here? Washington is a big lift, I'll be honest.

That is a heavy one. Are you from eastern Washington? Yeah, the Tri-Cities honest. That is a heavy one. Are you from Eastern Washington? Yeah, the Tri-Cities area. That's where Emma Kate lives. Yeah, we went to Washington State University, and I did an event in Muska, Iowa. And so it was very well received there. And so I suppose the best thing, look,

is you have to start local. I don't want to try to mislead you. Saving Washington is a huge endeavor. but find other people that agree with you. And unless you really want to make this your task, we would welcome you with open arms in Arizona, because every new activist and every new patron in Arizona is so welcome. I don't want to say give up on Washington, but I can tell you that it is probably not the greatest use of an activist time to try to flip a deep blue state. When we have states that are ready to become the next Florida, we can take Arizona off the battleground map heading into 2028. We need to win the governor's race, Andy

Biggs. We need to win the AG race, the secretary of state race. We have two Democrat senators. We are going to fortify and turn Arizona into a blood red, deep red state. We're well on our way to do that. Thank you so much, man. Really appreciate it. All right. Last question of the week. It'll be Ashton members.charliekirk.com. What's on your mind? Hi, Charlie. How are you doing? Good. How are you? Good. Funny enough, I'm also from Washington States. That's kind of funny. I'm on the west side though. Oh, okay. Very good. Yeah, so I had a really quick question. Just, I've followed you for a while and I know throughout the various stages you went through

when you were building Turnip.USA, I was just kind of curious, as someone who's like looking at starting smaller companies with a family and friends, what did you do for medical insurance? Because I talk with a lot of people here, and it's like, oh, if you want to get any kind of medical insurance that's any good,

you have to work for a big company. You can't do it on your own. That's kind of a thing out here. So I was curious, what was your advice, and what steps did you take when you were working your way? How old are you? 21. Yeah.

So don't love Obamacare, but if your parents have health insurance, you're allowed to stay on your parents' plan up until you're 26. If I'm not mistaken, I don't know if your parents have health insurance or not. But as far as being an entrepreneur, you can go on the public exchange and you can go on the market. This is a big problem. The open exchange is awful for entrepreneurs. You get totally hosed if you have to go buy your own health insurance on the open exchange. We need a whole recalibration of our health insurance way of thinking things, unfortunately, is way too tied to your employer and for sole proprietors, entrepreneurs, business owners. They just get crushed. If you're kind of like an entrepreneur, you're not part of a major conglomeration. And so I know that doesn't fully answer your question. But again, I'm not a huge fan of Obamacare.

But one provision does allow you to stay on your parents' plan until you're 26. So our healthcare system is one that nobody would create, but it's almost impossible to dismantle. Let me repeat that again. It's our healthcare system is one that almost no one would create, but it's almost impossible to dismantle. Thank you so much, and God bless you. Have a great weekend.

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