The Charlie Kirk Show - Ask Charlie Anything 235: Greenland Update? Brennan, Comey, Clapper? The Deal with Demons?

Episode Date: August 18, 2025

  Charlie takes an hour of questions live from CK Exclusives subscribers, including:   -Is there a way to bring Trump's goal of annexing Greenland to fruition? -Why is it important that the Russiagate declassifications end in indictments, not just more documents on X? -Are demons real and what should Christians think about them?   Become an Exclusives subscriber and ask Charlie a question on-air by going to members.charliekirk.com.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job. Building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created Turning Point USA. We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here. It is our Ask Me Anything, where it is a ask me anything, where Only if you are a member at members. com, are you able to come on this show, members.charleykirk.com. That is members.

dot charleykirk.com. Let's begin with Anthony. Anthony, thank you so much for being a member. Members. com. Happy Friday. What's on your mind? Happy Friday.

So my question is this to you. It's okay for News from the cleanup San Francisco when Ping shows up, but it's not okay for Trump to clean up the crime and everything in D.C. Don't these mayors, governors of these cities and states want to have respectable states, respectable cities, where people want to come visit, do business, attract new people to move there. Don't they care about that or they just want chaos? That is a great point. And just to remind everybody, what Gavin Newsom did is when there was some sort of a summit or something hosted in San Francisco,

they cleaned up the streets of San Francisco. You would think that it was the streets of Tokyo. It shows that crime, open-air drug use, homelessness is a choice, and our leaders embrace that choice. They embrace the idea. They actively and openly embrace the idea of we're just going to live with crime. But if Gigi Ping comes to town, when their master comes to town, then they start cleaning things up. We can choose to fix things. We see this in Washington, D.C.

By the way, let me read you a text message that I got from a reporter, a major reporter. He says, unrelated, because he was asking me about something else. He says, Charlie, I personally don't know anybody in D.C. who thinks the crime level is acceptable and that the National Guard presence is unwarranted, not one. That is a major reporter for a huge outlet, which goes to show. Why is that not yet materializing a lot of the stories of the Washington Press Corps? Just think about how dishonest you must be. You support what President Trump is doing, but you're openly writing stuff against Donald Trump.

it's that's really dark stuff and as we said let's play that piece of tape of that of that black guy it was a great piece of tape where he says walking the streets of dc no more weed smell we did a whole show on that yesterday that just the smell of weed is an affront to our senses and we're going to clean up graffiti fill the potholes too let's let's play that piece of tape it's here on the cut sheet somewhere you guys can set it in there and it's 406 that goes to So things are already cleaning up. And again, we can choose to fix things. This is one of the things that the left-wing mind is trying to do to the West.

They want you to act as if, oh, you can't fix it. It's too difficult. Enough. We're going to cut through the bureaucracy, cut to the red tape. If we have to call in the National Guard, we have to call in the military, we're going to do that. Play cut 406, please. Man, down the city is quiet as a church motion. I came all the way down Pennsylvania Avenue this morning.

So peaceful, young. I don't smell no weed, you know. I don't see no homeless people. I mean, I came all the way through the southeast side all the way down here. You can see now I'm at the white house, gentlemen, man. It's quiet, yeah. It's a shame that it takes somebody to have to sit in your classroom in order for you to be in order, yeah. Because that's what it feels like, you know.

You got to be babysitter to do your job, you know. Stuffing out of trouble. for years. You got to do better, young. You got to do better, you know. And mainly young, you've got the problems. It's us, man. It's always us giving

everybody a bad name, young. These are quality of life issues, and they might seem little, but they're massive, they're major. When you can't go to a park, I mean, for example, during the inauguration, we had our entire family in Washington, D.C. And my daughter was like, I want to go

play in the park. And honestly, some of the parks in Washington, D.C., you would not bring your kids to at all. They have homeless, they have drug addicts. It was so interesting. So when I was in the White House, one of the staffers, I was overhearing a conversation. I was there recently. And one of the staffers is a young girl, probably mid-20s, as a lot of the White House staff is. And she was talking to just, you know, one of the other security guys in the lobby there.

And they said, oh, you know, there's protests against Trump because he's doing this. And she says, obviously, yes, I support it. she works for Trump and she says you know me and my friends we have in our entire schedule and our entire route through DC to avoid the scary people and I listened intently and the guys like the scary people she says oh yeah we call them the scary people we have a group text message of all the people that live in my condominium that live in my neighborhood and we're always at you know hey scary person outside scary people more likely there and that's you know it's a very interesting term.

That is American citizen living in the nation's capital. She says, I do not leave my house after 9 p.m., period. My condo. She says, I just go in, lock the door, double lock the door, watch Netflix, and that's it. If I have to take out the trash or go for the walk or go to CBS, I'll use, you know, Uber eats or door dash just to get the stuff I need because I refuse to go leave the home. Not only is that a stressful way to live. that is a failure of our leaders.

That is a fundamental failure of what our leaders should be doing to deliver a better country for their citizens. And so to your point, Anthony, it's a good one. Not only has Gavin Newsom been, you could call it hypocritical, but it's really, it's more hierarchy than it is hypocrisy. But Gavin Newsom, he's okay cleaning up the streets for Xi Jinping and then allowing them to get dirty again for the American citizenry. But he is completely uninterested in supporting President Trump for cleaning up D.C. And let me just say that there's another clip here that basically a woman that's gone very viral. She said, I'm finally able to chill at a red light with my windows down, not worried about if one of them young N-words is coming. That's her words, not mine.

Riding through the city feeling more safe than I've ever felt. Everybody, if this continues, and she's black saying, that. So it's, you know, she's, she's allowed to say the N word. I suppose those are the cultural rules. So she's, she says, you know, I got my windows down and, you know, I'm not going to be carjacked. So she's finally feeling safe to be able to have the windows down in our nation's capital. Let me just say for the liberals that have gone in, the leftists that have gone all in trying to pose Donald Trump's mobilization, the National Guard, if there is now a before and after picture this this will be a very very serious political i don't want to say death blow

but challenge to the urban democrat core this will then now this will now live in folklore in black america and inner city america remember when trump brought in the national guard it was so safe that august why can't we have more from that it'll be free from fear and so i want if we are successful so far we are So far, we're seeing, again, not totally successful, but these sort of little testimonials, you can't fake that. D.C. will hopefully improve even more so over time, and D.C. will undoubtedly get better once you ignore and overcome the people that just want to protest you because they think Trump is being mean or cruel. And so I'm optimistic with this. Gavin Newsom does not care about his citizens. He does not care about San Francisco. He doesn't care about Los Angeles. He doesn't care about Los Angeles. He doesn't care about the fires.

And meanwhile, we have President Donald Trump defying what all the expert class has done and mobilizing the National Guard. And if we can say, hey, crime was A and then it turned to B, what a contrast, what a before and after story that we will be able to tell. Let's play that actually. Let's play cut 506. Did we blur out the naughty word? Let's play cut 506.

Finally able to chill at a red light with my window down Not worried about if one of them young Is coming Right through the city Feeling more safe than I ever felt Safer than I've ever felt Do you notice? She said

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the amount of thoughtful emails that we received about the marijuana weed topic is amazing. And again, I would love your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com. Probably one of the most excitable episodes that we have done in quite some time. There was a silent majority of so many of you. And I do want to say something. I said this on thought crime yesterday. at times people can interpret some of what we say on the show as being critical of boomers it's actually not what we do on this program but i want to give credit to where credit is due credit to the baby boomers out there you guys are really good on the marijuana topic i see you i hear you that i got to be honest i think a lot of the millennials are all messed up on it but baby boomers you guys are driving home and i'm saying this non sarcastically i mean i i want to keep marijuana illegal and a lot of Baby boomers agree. So, well done. Okay, let's go to the next question. This is Josh. Josh has a

question I think about Greenland. We'll find out if that's correct. Josh, thank you for being a member. What's on your mind? Yeah, that was pretty much just my question. I'm wondering what's going on with Greenland because I know it was a big topic when Trump first got into office if he was going to buy it or not. And now you don't really hear anything about it. Oh, I believe it's still being worked on. But understand that the Russian situation is not disconnected to the Greenland situation. President Trump's entire foreign policy worldview, the MAGA doctrine,

as we've articulated a couple times on this program, is hemispheric dominance. But in order to first have hemispheric dominance, you must sunset the conflicts happening in other parts of the world. So think about what he's already done. India, Pakistan, Congo, Rwanda, Israel, Iran. We've got to get this Gaza situation figured out, which I think the president will do.

And then, of course, we have Russia, Ukraine. And Russia, Ukraine is the big one. That is the prize. And as President Donald Trump is meeting with Vladimir Putin, getting that done and getting that sealed, President Donald Trump can shift all of his focus into our hemisphere. You see, he wants to, he wants to hermetically seal the entire Western hemisphere. And part of this, though, the Greenland component, not just the oil. not just the rubies not just the gold not just the rare earth minerals can we put the picture back up on screen though that's it's a it's location if you are really worried about russia and if you want to

be able to have hemispheric dominance also against china you know we have a major airbase in greenland already people say how dare do we want to have american you know presence in greenland we already have american presence in greenland we have a very well-staffed important I think it's a Space Force base and an Air Force base. And as you remember, I visited Nook back in January with Donald Trump Jr. They're great people. There's only 50,000 people in the country of Greenland. It's like 55,000.

You guys can fact check me on that. And I'm still in touch with people from Greenland. I'm trying to be careful because I'm not a government official, so I don't want to get too involved in all that stuff. But the vibe is this. The move needs to be allow the people of Greenland to first use personal autonomy and agency to, yeah, it's 56,000 people in Greenland. I was right, to disconnect from their Danish masters.

Remember, Greenland is part of Denmark. It could be a referendum. It could be a vote. Whatever process it is, we want to engage in popular sovereignty. And then allow Greenland the opportunity to be part of the United States of America no different than either Puerto Rico or Guam. It does not have to be a state. It does not have to be part of a state.

It can be a territory. And the argument it needs to be made to the people of Greenland, you will be wealthier, you'll be richer, and you will be protected. Now, the European press has done everything they possibly can to propagandize the 56,542 people in Nook Greenland, which they're not all in Nook, but the vast majority is. And you would be surprised, Nook, it's a happening town for a smaller type. It has infrastructure, has great restaurants. I mean, it's growing. It's not yet, of course, to the place of a Copenhagen or Amsterdam, but there's a ton of people that listen to our program that watch us on TikTok.

That was the video, one of the most fun days of my life, the video of Trump Force One landing in Nook Greenland. It was a very special mission when we went to Greenland. And we need to do everything we possibly can to, I don't want to say, we don't want to take Greenland militarily, but to put it under the American portfolio and I would every time we mention Greenland we much simultaneously mention Panama Canal that one is actually probably even more important in the immediacy you can kind of call this the American security umbrella and we want what does the Panama Canal and Greenland have in common we have then totally put China out of any sort of dominance any sort of entry point into our hemisphere. We've got to kick them out of some South American countries. Brazil is a big problem. But Greenland plus Panama makes the CCP very unhappy.

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Everyone I listen to, it seems like it's some big revelation, right? It's kind of a two-part question. did he testify in front of Congress? If so, the information that's being revealed in this, why didn't he bring it up? Because he wrote it. He could say, hey, refer to the annex. The answers are there.

They could have said, hey, what annex? What are you talking about? It seems like it's this big mystery when it should have been included within the report. I agree. I do agree at that. Look, basically we're at right now. We have confirmation of what we already knew. Cash declassified the Durham annex.

and just yes so special counsel john durham did testify in front of congress on june 21st 2023 but jenny let me tell you my perspective and the perspective we're going to take here on this program we're going to cover this but we're not going to sensationalize this it's time for indictments it's not time for tv one-liners it's not time for you know oh my goodness breaking news alerts guys i i'm all for that obviously but enough like let's let's let's get this thing let's get some motion here let's get some let's get some indictments perp walks otherwise let me again i'm telling you that this is a this is a very very tricky thing and potentially dangerous and i know that their grand juries are happening but if we are trying to raise the expectations too much by constantly

floating these things out and we do not have subsequent indictments, then people are going to be very mad. And I'm all for being patient and we need to be methodical. But I do have to ask the question, wouldn't it be better to keep all the stuff private and then come out with a lot of these indictments? Now, of course, the goal is to regain transparency and credibility. But the danger and the challenge, and I just have to voice this, I voiced it again, is that if there are not now major indictments, if we do not see major indictments from this point forward, people are going to be very, very mad because their expectations were just set very high. So they have just set the bar really high. And I hope

they reach it. And I have, you know, I know these people. And I think that they know what they're doing. I'm just, I'm just, I'm formulating a picture that now our audience and the American public in general, they now say, oh my goodness, Durham Annex, you know, Obama was by behind it. Obviously, you know, John Brennan and Clapper. These people are traitors. So full forward. We're all for that. The FBI placed thousands of relevant documents and burn bags. But Cash Patel, to his great credit, found them. Hillary Clinton approved of the plan to conduct a Donald Trump colluding with Russia narrative in order to distract the public from a use of a private email server. All of this is helpful. All of this is obviously not a waste of time. I've never said those words. I'm not saying we shouldn't talk about it, but what I am concerned about is that if we have all of these documents, if we have all of this, and we knew about it, but this is now confirmed with documentation, and we got it right, and there is not now major indictments, people are going to say, what the hell? That's the reaction.

I agree, but it feels like this annexing is almost like a Brady violation, you know, or a betrayal from Durham because he wrote it, he knew about it, could have solved some of this mystery a long time ago, but it's not. It seems like it's been hidden, and now it's just big, this big huge revelation that we're just seen that should have been part of the report, but was it? Does that make sense? I think that's a really good point. And I just want to repeat that, though, why wasn't this in the original rule? What is an annex? I don't quite. If you write a book, you have appendix, you have an, you know, it should have been there. He should have known it should have been there. If people are asking these questions, he goes, well, it's there. A true, I totally agree. where's my annex so a lot of people defended durham throughout the entire process a lot of people thought durham was going to go big i always thought durham was going to underwhelm now it was classified by the department of justice as a durham annex again i support making this public 100% agree i'm just saying that if we spend so much time on this on our podcasts on our shows and then we do not have a major boom shock and awe type indictments people are going to not just be mad it will be a deterioration of

trust they'll say you got all this stuff that you told us about and we're talking about brennan komi clapper those are the big three correct and that's on this program we're not going to obsess about it we're not we're going to talk about it obviously as the news comes up but an over obsession in it at this point we've been talking about the story we know the exam we know it it's confirmed it's terrible it's a crime against the country it's a crime against the president it's outright naked fraudulence and we'll continue to call balls and strikes as new data emerges and we really believe that it's time for either a seditious conspiracy charge i i don't know all the details but i can speak for our audience that if there is not major indictments from this point forward

people are going to be mad they're going to be upset and the grand jury's outside of DC are promising. And remember, J.D. Vance said something in the Gateway Pundant interview. We should try to find it. He said, there is a lot happening that you will be shocked was happening as soon as it comes public. So we stand ready. We stand on guard. We'll continue to report this as things develop. Okay. Joshua, thanks so much for being a member. Members. dot charley kirk.com what's on your mind how are you master debater oh i'm just doing great the master of debate but you know what we're doing just great good um so my main question is how can young conservatives especially better engage people that are maybe more left-leaning or full-blown

liberal without completely just to falling into a debate pattern calling each other horrible names because i've tried this before myself i've said i respect that the and viewpoints. It's obviously we're not going to agree. And by the end of the conversation, I'm called an in-cell and I'm cussed out. So I'm just like trying to figure out how I can maybe better approach. I'm surrounded by a few others at my work that are more okay to speak. But for the most part, as we all know, most liberals will just start throwing out the phobics, the horrible names. Any comments concerns? Yes. Always make sure they're the ones freaking out. Always. Not you. Number two, use the Socratic method.

And I think we've done a good job of that when we are doing our events. Remember, you're not just debating a person. You're performing for the audience of everyone else. And I try to do that at our Prove Me Wrong events. I think we've demonstrated that in front of billions of people that we're putting on a broader presentation of the collision of ideas and the marketplace of ideas. And again, we've been doing this for 13 years. some liberals are never going to have their mind changed ever some you'll think will never have their minds changed but because of a persistent socratic method of trying to get towards some

approximation of truth and you have to know the right questions to ask a really good way to debate is using syllogisms do you do you know what a syllogism is not off the top of my head no that's okay it's this is not a pop quiz it's okay so a syllogism is a form of logical reasoning where a conclusion is drawn from two premises. So, for example, do you agree, liberal, that all humans are mortal? Yes, I agree. Okay. Do you believe that Socrates was a human?

Yeah, yeah, I agree. Therefore, Socrates is mortal. So if A is true and B is true, then C follows. So syllogisms are great ways to be able to involve the audience towards getting to an inevitable conclusion. So you talk to somebody, hey, do you believe that, let's just take the abortion topic, right? Do you believe that murder is wrong? Yes. Do you believe that a fetus or a baby in the womb is a human being?

Yes. Well, therefore, isn't the termination of that baby murder, therefore isn't it wrong? Blah, blah, blah, right? So the point is the students are not using the Socratic method or your colleagues or not. They might not even know who Socrates is, honestly, one of the most impressive. of amazing people ever to live. And I was just talking to Dr. James Orr off camera. He was looking through my collection of my books of Plato.

And the Socrates' dialogues, Gorgias, Gorgias, I can never pronounce that. G-O-R-G-I-A-S. Anyway, Gorgias. So the point being is syllogisms are really good ways to quickly be able to get some momentum in your conversation. Again, no, you know, not. any some some no form of a demerit to you that you didn't know what a syllogism is but i would imagine um joshua you've heard me do that before those kind of syllogism type dialogues right many times yeah and they work and they are ancient and they are effective thank you so much

i got to get to a couple more we're we have a long queue next question here ryan thank you for being a member what's on your mind hey charlie um so as a christian coming back to the faith a lot thanks to you and you know listening to daily wired stuff what are the views of christian on, like, demons and exorcisms and stuff in, like, the real world? So, demons, so great, great question. So it depends on your denomination, but generally in evangelical circles, Catholic circles, or orthodoxy, demons are real. And the book of Ezekiel is probably the best book to articulate where demons actually come

from, fallen angels, especially. And we know that there is a, there is an invisible world that exists. Now, for example, we know that. in like Jude 1-9, if I'm not mistaken. I think that's the verse. It talks about the archangel Michael. And he goes and he slays, he slays the

I'm paraphrasing, the invisible world on the behalf of Christ. Now, we do believe that there is an invisible component. Remember, Jesus himself drove out demons repeatedly. So it's in arguable in mainstream Christian dogma that demons

exist. But, but, but, I want to caution you, be very very, very, very careful believing that everything is a demon or everything dark is a demon. Never assume they're impossible, but do not assume they are everywhere. Demons are, in normative Christian theology, fallen rebellious angels that fell with Lucifer upon a rebellion and took one third of all the angels into the fallen and invisible world. Demons are real in the sense where Christ our Lord drove them out. And remember it said that if you drive out a demon and you allow it to come back,

it will come back with six times the amount of ferocity. I could talk more about this. Exorcisms is a little bit more complicated. That is traditionally more of a Roman Catholic, not preference, that's not priority practice, I would say. But I have no problem with extracisms. In fact, I think exorcisms uniquely can bring you closer to the faith because if you can believe that there is evil, then there must be a standard of good. If you can believe there is a demon, therefore you must believe that there is an angel. By the way, it's seven times,

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So Jude, the half-brother of Jesus. Yeah, Blake says, Tisk, Tisk. It says, but Michael, the archangel, when he disputed with the devil and argued about the body of Moses, did not dare to pronounce against him a railing judgment, but instead said, quote, Lord rebuke you. And that's very important, right? which is you do not have to do the work yourself. You invoke the name of Christ our Lord to kick out the demons. C.S. Lewis said, quote,

there are two equals and opposite forms into which our race can fall about the devils. One is to disbelieve their existence. The other is to believe and to feel an excessive and unhealthy interest in them. They feel themselves equally pleased by both errors and hail a materialist or a magician with the same delight. Man, C.S. Lewis, one of the most important thinkers ever. I encourage you to read his books. The Great Divorce, Abolition of Man. Let's go to Will.

Will, what's on your mind? Hi, Charlie. It's an honor to be on your show. I'm now turning 14. And first, I would like to brag. Yeah, I would like to brag about the brewers. They're going to destroy the cops. Oh, see, and this is terrible.

Cut them up, no, no, no. You know, at 14, you already know how to troll. You're quite talented. You guys are the hottest team in baseball. I've not seen anything like it in quite some time. But don't worry, my friend Will, as a Brewer's fan, you will know that you will choke and you will not win the World Series. No, but my actually question is, it's about Maha.

And so you had Cray Moo on your podcast and he seemed to disagree about like with Jillian Michaels, I guess, and J.S.K. So what do you think about your views now that you've had them both on to talk? And would you have them on for a debate or something? Yeah, I think so. You know, yeah, Kramu is quite interesting. I loved it. You know why I liked Kramu, even though our audience didn't, is it made me challenge a lot of my assumptions. I didn't agree with everything he said.

I actually give a little bit more preference on vitamin D than he did. But that's okay. And I think some of this stuff he said, but generally, I think it's good to not just accept what you read on the internet and to have the cross-examination. Because we want what is right. We want it is true. We don't want just what feels good. But some of the stuff he said, by the way, is a Maha would agree with not being fat, for example, and eating whole foods and not eating processed sugar, right? And so I would love to, I think it's a great point hosting a kind of a debate between Kramu and the Maha of their choosing. And remember, he's looking at big data sets, which is really good. It keeps us from fads. And Maha should be unafraid to answer any of the critical questions. as Kramu should be

unafraid to answer any of the critical questions that Maha might have towards the pharmaceutical industry. But it's good for us to be educated on data and that's what we're all about. Understanding statistics and getting towards what is the truth. Stats are how powerful people lie.

During COVID, they use statistics to lie to us repeatedly. Yeah, and I just looked at the NL Central. It's a drive-by shooting. It's terrible. The Brewers are eight games up on the Cubs in the NL Central. And the Cubs are in a tough spot. They're playing terribly right now.

They can't hit anything that their life depended on it. Their pitching's actually been great. They blew it with the Blue Jays. It's just been, hey, every good team goes through a slump. They're four and six in the last 10. And honestly, we didn't even deserve to win some of those games. Okay, thank you and go Cubs. Lisa, what is on your mind?

Members.Charliecirk.com. Hi, Charlie. I'm just wondering if there will be a federal effort to make the gerrymandering go away you know, like from the Supreme Court, because it is unconstitutional, violates or civil rights. It's racist, if you want to say that. But if it can be done, will it be done in time to save California from further damage being sought by Gavin Newsom? So the Supreme Court's actually weighed in heavily on gerrymandering maps, and especially in the North Carolina maps. They basically made North Carolina completely redraw their maps.

I think it was in 2019. It might have been a little bit later. So the Supreme Court usually weighs in, though, on behalf of black Americans using the Civil Rights Act. And usually, honestly, they overextend it. It is done by states, and it should be done by states, by the way. Now, look, this is all about North Carolina. The 2019 ruling was that rule gerrymandering for party advantage cannot be challenged in federal court and has removed guidelines. Look, it's a very difficult topic.

We don't necessarily want federal courts ordering states to draw their maps. We do not want mass proliferation. of gerrymandering in every single state. Generally, the left has wanted to ban gerrymandering. In fact, that's why they started the Independent Commission in California. California had an independent commission, believe it or not. Independent commission, it was passed in Prop 11 in 2008, and it was actually built upon in 2010. 64% of Californians actually like the independent commission, but the left has been just as guilty as Republicans in gerrymandering.

Again, California has an independent system that gives Democrats. 85% of the seats. So there's a ton of stories in how the process was abused and how it was undermined. So it's a very difficult topic. Generally, we should yield to the states in this way, that we should allow the states to determine the maps that they want to draw. No one likes to see this kind of ansel at you. It's like this crazy painting, as you see in Illinois, just a splattering of paint. No one wants to see that.

and look, Trump won 40% of the vote in California, but nine of the 52 seats in California are red. So what is the solution? It's very difficult. It's tough, but we must hold our ground and we should not surrender our ground to the Democrats that want to do this. The key thing is we shouldn't feel shame

about matching what the left does here. Thanks so much for listening. Everybody email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening and God bless. For more on many of these stories news you can trust. Go to charliekirk.com.