The Charlie Kirk Show - Ask Us Anything 238: Gen Z Going to Church? Taylor Swift Takes Charlie's Advice? A Cubs Playoff Run?

Episode Date: October 6, 2025

The Charlie Kirk Show staff take an hour of questions live from CK Exclusives subscribers, including:   -How can adults get involved in TPUSA's efforts to save the country? -Is the whole office rooting for a Cubs win? -How would Charlie feel about Taylor Swift's latest takes on marriage?    Become an Exclusives subscriber and ask the team a question on-air by going to members.charliekirk.com.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Here I am. Lord, use me. Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by Preserve Gold. Leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends, and viewers. So we've got Mikey McCoy, Charlie's Chief of Staff, absolute roundabout, good man, and apparently a rising star, Mikey McCoy. People love your infectious laugh.

The ladies love it. The Real McCoy was the title, I think we settled on. I think I'm Admiral Andrew. Admiral Andrew, Real McCoy, Blake GPT. Yeah, yeah, whatever. Andres, I guess I'm a Spock or whatever. Just like, you know, Captain Kirk, we'd get all worked up. And then I'd be like, that's most illogical, John.

Yeah, you literally do one of these things. Most logical. Yeah. I see, Alexis says, I'm seeing Muslims all over Michigan. They are now allowing prayer in the middle of the street midday. Are they here legally? I have no idea. Some of them probably are.

A lot of them are these refugee status. Savannah Hernandez with Turning Point Frontlines did a, amazing piece on the Somalis in Minnesota, and most of them get government benefits because they're here on some sort of temporary protected status. Tons, tons. But they just keep getting extended, extended. A lot of these will be chain migration. Alexis, you said, hey, can I get a response on my email? And so the answer is yes, I see you. And so, yeah, it's a huge problem. I mean, I don't know. We currently, apparently do not have the political will or desire to deal with it. And on some level, I understand the administration is trying to tackle a huge illegal immigrant problem,

but the chain migration, legal immigration needs to be reformed just as urgently, in my opinion. So, yeah, we do have, so if you want to be a part of our members, ask me anything hour, ask we anything hour, just join members.charleykirk.com. We can put that URL on the lower if we can members dot charley kirk.com please uh join our our members program it's still going it's still active and you guys are really the bedrock and the backbone of this show so first anthony is first anthony can you hear me yeah can you hear me Andrew yes absolutely hey anthony welcome to the show how you do thanks guys all right so got to ask this andrew i know you're a dodger fan so it's okay um but where does the office stand with pulling for the

Cubs. Where's Danny? I know you, I know, I understand the point. Get him in. Get him in right now. I will, for Charlie, I will, I will be ecstatic if the Cubs win. So I just, I just want to see. While we wait for Danny, I'm a twins fan. For those who don't follow baseball, the twins are a smoldering crater of a franchise.

They're doomed forever. They will never be good again. Did you just admit that on air? What? You're a twins? Yeah, what? It's not even your state. You're a twin.

They're next door. All right. Someone find it. Anyway, they're going to be. terrible forever they'll never ever be good again so i'm kind of just going into this like curvy puckered nation come get in here get over here get over here danny talking to my mic right here just talking to my right here just talking to my right here just talking to my just you can lean in whatever wherever you want to go so danny is uh from the same part of the world roughly as charlie but charlie and danny would talk sports

a lot oh yeah big time danny is an ohio state fan which is oh that's it the number one team in the country national champs we're going to run it back this year. Except for the Ducks are going to win, because now I'm a Ducks fan, which is saying something because I'm actually a UW Husky, which those are, we had an expression that rhymes with ducks that involved the name of that school. And I'm putting all this, putting all this aside to root for Charlie. Last night we were watching the Rams 49ers game, and Elizabeth goes, since when are you like a sports fan? It's like you can blame Danny and Charlie. I didn't care about sports. Now I'm a Ducks fan and a Cus fan because of this guy. So, so tell

tell the audience how many games were visible inside the Charlie Kirk Show office almost every day game yeah we were in the office and the Cubs were playing the game was on yeah and there's a time difference too so you would if they were playing east coast or central time central time two hour difference you would catch it it would work out i mean one of my last memories of Charlie in the office actually was just watching the Cubs play oh really yeah because we all went to we went to the rigley we went to the rigley field together just a few weeks before Charlie passed. And, I mean, it was a really special moment.

We walked the field, hung out with the players. Like, a couple of those images went viral. Yep. Because I guess it was, like, controversial that they took a picture with Charlie. One of the players, what's that? Michael Bush, who took a picture of Charlie, hit a big home run last night. Yeah. And by the way, I'm not even a Cubs fan, Anthony, but I am this year.

Okay? And if they won the night. It's okay. I know. You're a Dodger fan. I am. Listen, I want them to get to the NLCS together, and I want to go seven,

and I want Matt Schott. I hit the game winning, home run. Will he hit it off Otani, though? What if that happens? I'm so okay with that. Otani's had enough flowers. It'll be Cubs and Phillies in the NLCS, Philly's taking it, and there's a reason.

The Phillies taking it? Yes, here my reason. Hold on. I know the shortstop on the Cubs and the Phillies and the D.H on the Phillies personally. So, Danny, you should know who the Cubs shortstop is. Oh, Danesby Swanson. See, he knows that.

Yeah. So then the Philly shortstop is Trey Turner, and then the D.H. is Kyle Schwerber. I know all three of them. Are you a sports guy? Like, are you, is this your profession? So I, um, I worked in the NHL and the NBA, and I currently work in college athletics as consultants, uh, handling marketing communications, but I traveled to three college world series, and I had all those athletes in Omaha.

So that's how I know him personally. And then I had Trey Turner's best friend growing up on one of my college summer baseball teams. Well, listen, Trey Turner used to be a Dodger, but then I think he got recruited by Bryce Harper to the Phillies. So anyways, Phillies have a great team. I'm just glad Jack Pesobics not here because he would be like all hooping and hollering about the Phillies and no thank you. Anyways, God bless you, Anthony. I think it's safe to say the office is pulling for the Coveys, even me. Okay.

So all for Charlie. this year it's all about charlie yeah throw cut uh three 367 up there this was cool that the cubs actually did this for maybe we don't have it if we here i'm gonna i'm gonna send it to yeah there you go 367 this is a picture and it's uh 1776 kirk it was uh they made jerseys charlie and erika and it together it was 1776 so there's one more photo that's online didn't he run the scoreboard or something yes he did yeah that's right that's interesting i haven't seen that picture but i remember when they were like hey do you want to go up with them and charlie was like no i'm taking erika i was like totally cool so yeah that was great uh thanks anthony next

question elizabeth elizabeth next can you hear us elizabeth hi i can hear you how are you today i'm well thank you thank you we've been praying for all of you guys you've been doing such a great job thank you thank you thank you we need it listener and before what happened to charlie happened to Charlie. Except for Mikey, I knew who all of you were, and I knew how much Charlie loved and respected all of you, and you were going to do such an amazing job continuing his

legacy. I have a complete confidence to that. Thank you. Thank you so much. Which led me to the Charlie problem, which is we're all trying to get back to Christ and Bible study, and I went on to Christianbook.com to get a Bible with a larger font

size, because I'm a little bit older, and it led me down a rabbit hole. And so there were all these sections for like apologetics calvinist there was like all this what's between apologetics and calvinist and how do you decide which way to go and don't worry i found an actual bible study i'm going to be going to with a great church who by the way he did in charlie kirk memorial he had a bunch of threats we had so many police there and he stood his ground you guys would love him amazing i i really do love that love that story um i i will say, so you're comparing apologetics, which is the defense of the Christian faith

and Calvinism, which is a particular stream of Protestantism, which is sort of known by the tulip, if you will, the five points of Calvinism, which is total depravity, unconditional election, limited atonement, irresistible grace, perseverance of the saints. Those are the five points of Calvinists. Even a lot of Calvinists are not five-point Calvinists, they're like three-point Calvinists, or they'll say four-point Calvinists. So, Elizabeth, you'll hear people use this expression reformed theology, and usually it's a reference to Calvinism on some level. Again, you got to be more specific with your questions when people are saying, oh, I'm sort of reformed or I'm Calvinist, because there's five points, and then there's three points, and there's four. So I know that's all very complicated, but a lot of young people, it's worth saying, are going back to either Catholic Church or they're going back to reformed churches.

and so so it is a those are probably the two biggest rising groups of of the faith right now especially with kids so don't get bogged down on which particular stream of christianity i would say if they read the bible they believe the bible if they love jesus if they follow jesus that's a pretty good starting point now we've got open hand or closed hand and open hand of faith all right what do we have in the closed hand that is that jesus is god he died on the cross for your sins and you need to repent and ask him to save you. That's pretty much the closed hand. If you want to go Calvinist or Armeniist,

if you want to go Catholic or Christian, if you want to go pre-millan post-trib, pre-trib, if you want to go any of those infant baptism, adult baptism, I get less worried about that. The thing is, follow Jesus, give your life to him, repent and be saved, and let him his perfect death on the cross, his perfect life and his death on the cross for your sins,

will cover you. And yeah, it sounds like you found a great Bible study. If they're defending Charlie vocally and vociferously, despite the wokeys, it sounds like you found a good one. You want to add anything to that? Thank you guys so much. Yeah. The other thing, too, that's really big is Calvinism and Armenianism.

So I don't know if maybe that's also what you're referring to there, but that's often kind of the debate between the two. with free will predestination versus self-determination or whatever humans having their ability to reject God bottom line is your salvation already being predestined I believe that people can reject him they shouldn't but they have the ability to well were they predestined to reject them that's the question anyways it's a never-ending cycle if you want to get it here all day

yeah but the point is if your heart is leading you to a very close relationship with Jesus Christ and you're trying to get to church you want to learn more about them and read your scripture. I would tell you this. The mark of a new Christian in my experience is that they just can't get enough of the scripture. They just want to devour it. And it's different for everybody, I will say, but I've just seen that. That has been one repeat thing. They just can't get their head out of the scriptures. And so read the Bible, let it fill you, let it fill your heart. And again, revival comes through repentance. When the mass of people in a country or in a community just feel

called to repent and give their lives to the Lord. What is repentance? Metanoia, right, is the Greek, and that means turning around. It means saying, sorry and turning in the other direction. So I always think of it as you're marching straight to hell. Jesus stops you on the way. Metanoia, you turn around, you say sorry, and you march the other direction. You go towards heaven. And God wants what's best for you.

God bless you, by the way. And I just love that. You know, have you already noticed just God speaking to you and is your life changing? I actually kind of felt, and I don't want to be. be like supernatural but i tell you i felt like charlie set me there because it was a memorial for charlie and he was to always happy i used to love your faith in freedom nights that were my favorite my favorite thing that he could do and the pastor summits were so great find a brave pastor i used to have a braved pastor and my old church i don't want to go into it

but they went into allowing gay marriage and then they fired my pastor because she would do gay marriage so i've been with him at a church for 10 years and that was a church there's so many stories like that it's so bad and I was baptized by my grandfather in my old church so I've been

wandering around trying to find a good church and also I wasn't the best of Bible study it was always kind of you need somebody who knows it right it's a lot

it's a lot yeah but this church it was founded in 1750 he's a very brave pastor he spoke about the trans insanity he got death to rest of he went through the memorial for Charlie. He stood firm on that.

There were a lot of police there. He's a brave man. He's a great pastor. And I just sort of felt like Pastor Hassellback. Great. Thank you. What part of the country? We're in Rockland County, New York.

God bless him. He passed the test. All right. Go ahead, Blake. Yes. So I feel like I could go there and I'm not going to be horrified what happened to 10 years later. You know what I'm saying?

It was very hard to lose my first church. Very hard. I was thinking how tough that is. Like my grandparents who've passed since, you know, they were ELCA Lutherans. That church embraced gay marriage, everything else. So they had to leave, but they were leaving a church. They had personally helped build the building it is. And there's so many little tragedies like that that have happened across American Christianity.

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Can I get that shame? I think we got a little sound effect for this. Shame. Shame. Shame. Yeah, no. So, yeah, so this is, we'll see. We'll probably be doing this on other things, and not necessarily always Charlie's stuff,

but we had to lead off with this. We were debating who we would hit this week, and then I saw this in my email this morning, and I was like, okay. This is the target. So Thomas Chatterton Williams is this very aggravatingly centrist writer. He like, I think he lives in a castle in Europe or something. And, yeah, and memorably last, literally just last week, he wrote in response to the Charlie Memorial, this tweet that was essentially, I, you know, I've lived in multiple different countries, but I've never felt as alienated as I did by this because I had no understanding of it. Is this the same guy? Same guy.

Oh, dear Lord. In the Atlantic, yesterday, he has this article titled, The Other Martyr. Maga has found it's George Floyd. And so he's tweeting about this and quoting all of this. And yeah, so that's the article. I think we have a photo of him, too, if you want to show it. Yeah, we've got a bunch of images of this guy. He's like, for many, so I'll just read a quote from this.

For many on the left, Floyd's asphyxiation turned a flawed and desperate man into a Christ figure, someone who bore the weight of the world's failings and in so doing, cleared a path to fix them. In the feverish weeks since Charlie Kirk's assassination, the Magarite is undergoing its own religious ferment, animated by a new martyr. Just as the left used Floyd's death to justify and hasten all manner of political ends,

the right is invoking Kirk's name to advance illiberal aims and silence opponents. All right, I've got, let's see, four minutes here. I'm just going to blow this guy up. Shame them. Shame. First of all, let's just, shame. There it is.

Shame. Shame. Shame. Shame. But let's just be real here. So, first of all, if we're just going to compare these two, I think you can judge, I think you can, to some extent, judge factions by who they decide to make into heroes. So let's compare the life stories here between Charlie Kirk and George Floyd. Yes.

Did you just, let's do it. Did you just coffee house clap him? George Floyd was essentially a career criminal. He participated in a robbery where he held a gun to a woman's stomach. Yep. He was having an encounter. He was repeatedly involved in drugs. He has an encounter with a police officer that ends his life because he's trying to pass a fake $20 bill at a gas station.

Can I just pause right there? Two of the people that George Floyd was with that day did not freak out, and they are alive today. Just for the record. But he is attempting to commit counterfeiting. A police officer comes in. It's unclear, but it seems very likely he basically swallowed. a large amount of drugs he was afraid he would be caught with. He freaks out in the back of a car

which causes him to be restrained. He dies of this basically from a drug overdose. And that is the sum of George Floyd's life essentially. Well, also, what follows it? Yeah, so I guess if you want to find similarities between them, you could say, you know,

George Floyd, like, you know, committed armed robbery against an innocent person and Charlie never committed armed robbery against an innocent person. So they're kind of, they're unified by this theme of robbery. that one committed it and the other did not. And, you know, he, I think he had a, you know, I don't believe he was married to the mother. He had a child, I believe.

Yes. Charlie, that's what I'm, I'm glad. Charlie did marry a woman and then had children with her who, and he remained loyal to her and was a loving husband and was a, frankly, like, lived a model life for others to imitate. If you were to imitate Charlie's life, you will be happy and successful and have a loving husband. great family. If you were to imitate George Floyd's life, you will probably die at a young age. Just so you're aware

he was 46 and a father of five children. All righty. But let's go beyond that. Okay, let's also compare it. The Floyd and the Charlie Kirk moments. After Charlie, we had zero riots. We had zero giant

mobs like trying to torch big cities. We had zero people like trying to do revelation. We had zero statues toppled, with zero statues toppled. Whereas with Floyd, we have riots in DC. We have riots in Minneapolis. We have riots in Minneapolis. We have riots in, we have follow-on riots in Kenosha and everywhere else that are basically inspired by this with, you know, some new case to justify it. We have an entire summer of Floyd with one riot after another. We have literally thousands of businesses burned, looted. We have them trying to put up this, you know, we support BLM. Please don't burn us, burn down anyway. We had a police station broken into by Antifa in Minneapolis and burned to the ground while the authorities of Minneapolis ran and hid. We didn't have any of that for Charlie. We had a big rally

in a stadium to memorialize him. We had a big memorial to him in a stadium that was like a revival in which all the people who were there as security said, wow, nothing bad happened, nobody was arrested, no problems. It was the cleanest event they'd ever run. In which Erica,

his widow, forgave the murderer. The most incredible act of Christian charity and forgiveness you will ever see in a public setting. So, yeah, actually, I'll give you this, uh, Chatterton, you know, if you want to call this our George Floyd, I'll take that because I'll take that comparison every day. Let's make that comparison. Let's go.

Let's go off Blake. Go off Blake. And I, to this, to this writer, what's his name again? What's his name again? Uh, Thomas Chatterton Williams. What a just a really amazing name for a person like Thomas Chatterton Williams. to have i award you no points and may god have mercy on your soul that's how i feel all right shame all right let's yeah let's take another caller let's take greg greg can you hear us guys what's going

on uh we just we're letting blake you know we all grieve in our own ways i think you know uh blake go off so that's how we're doing we're all in that mode right now Greg what's your question Just real quick, I just wanted to thank you guys for everything you guys do. I mean, Charlie was one of one and, you know, Grand Canyon void to fill, but you guys are doing an incredible job. I just want to say that. But real quick on immigration, so I just wanted to get your take on it. I'm Polish. I'm from Poland originally.

Came here in 95. You know, got my green card, went through the whole ordeal process. now I'm a US citizen so it's you know it's really infuriating what's going on with this whole immigration

and I don't know like what is the percentage of people like myself I'm hoping it's bigger than just very small but that are infuriated by all this illegal stuff and you know

just the Democrats just being you know throwing all these privileges and rights at them and here I am like just go through the process like and and it's kind of infuriating to to see all that happen no it's it's profoundly insulting is what it is Greg because it's worse than just that you went through the process and other people are getting in without doing the process we make it like easier and better for the individuals

who are violating the process where if you just show up at our border illegally you can do some cheat code to get temporary protected status or you're an asylum seeker and then you're eligible for way more stuff often than a person who actually comes here legally is in terms of programs. You get a fast track to all sorts of stuff whereas if you're trying to come here legally as like a high skilled person,

there's so many hoops you have to jump through. It's so difficult for everyone to hire you or do all of this. And it is profoundly insulting and I think it's something that is really underrated because the claim is always that anyone who came here as an immigrant is going to be angry if we restrict immigration

in any way. But I think your testimony to the fact that no, a person who follows the law, a person who actually admires what made America great and came here for that is going to be very angry at, you know, a faction that just treats America as a giant pile of like money to be looted by the rest of the world. So I just want to say that I completely agree with you. And I would also like to say as well that for young people, immigration is a total, like they are the ones getting screwed over the most. Because what happens is we bring in all these H-1Bs, which are technically legal, but it's a scam system. But we also bring in all these illegals that will work the hotel jobs and the restaurant jobs and the cooks and all this stuff.

And those were the jobs generations prior that were largely taken by high school kids. That would be the entryway into a career. Maybe they would start their own restaurant someday. Maybe they would start their own hotel someday. But they never got started. They end up getting sucked down some pathway on the Internet or some Discord channel or some Reddit Threat. And this is, you know, this is what's happening to a whole generation. So we believe that you need to stop this.

Americans need to get the jobs. Immigrants need to go home. And we need to dramatically reform and curtail our legal immigration system so that only people like you are getting through. I saw this meme, by the way, because Rahim Kasam is a friend of the show, the National Pulse as well. Great, great website. You need to check it out. The NationalPulse.com. And the meme was.

was like, can Rahim Qasam just be the final arbiter on who gets in and who doesn't? I was like, that would be great because Rahim is a good quality addition to the United States of America. He's a patriot. He came to the memorial, did a whole video about it, was beautiful. But the point is, there are good immigrants, but we are so fed up in this country with getting the system gamed and having our people screwed over in the process. It's a breakdown of the social compact because as a nation, we owe it to our own people to me. make sure they're taken care of first. And until somebody in Washington or some think tank can prove to me that our people are

taken care of, then I'm with Charlie Kirk on this. I'll take an immigration moratorium as far as I'm concerned. But I still like that people like you got in. This is Lane Schoenberger, chief investment officer and founding partner of Y. Refai. It has been an honor and a privilege to partner with Turning Point and for Charlie to endorse us. His endorsement means the world to us. and we look forward to continuing our partnership with Turning Point for years to come. Now, hear Charlie, in his own words, tell you about Y-R-R-R-E-F-Y-F-Y.

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You know, so this is funny. There's a whole move. I mean, I'm telling you, things are coming out of the woodwork. I don't know that Blake is on board with this. But there's a whole move of people that really want us to have a halftime show, counter-programming. I'm not kidding. There's people putting up real opportunities. So I would love to hear, email us, freedom at charliekirk.com.

Do you think Turning Point should be involved in some sort of concert, maybe with Creed? Yeah. Maybe I feel like they'd have to do. I don't agree to this. I don't know. Do we know if Creed would be into this? I'm pretty sure the lead singer would be. I don't know.

I'm hearing that the band might not be available, but the lead singer might be it. Somehow there's like a, I'm not exactly sure what to do. We could do Taylor Swift. Michael Caboos, only if Nickelback can be there too. Sorry, Michael Caboose. Anyways. Next question here we have Jill. Jill, are you there?

Hey, great. Hey, we are in Missouri. and we have a bunch of adults that want to get involved like the kids. Is there anything you can do to help us get started? So I thought about this. I've been thinking about this a lot. And I actually think that we probably need to do something on the action side. So we already have an adult group.

And it's called turning point action. And that is, you're talking about, you know, you're upset. Daisy gives me a little like preview, by the way. So here. So something they're passing, you know, you have politicians that are passing. liberal laws, liberal agenda items. And that would be a very political thing. And so we already have an adult, or at least something that adults can get involved in. We have a lot of young people also involved in that.

But turning point action is the 501C4. So whereas turning point USA is the C3, we don't do R&C stuff. We don't do candidate stuff. It's just conservative ideas, American, pro-American ideas on college campuses, high school campuses. The C4 endorses candidates. The C-4 endorses candidates. The C4 goes in Knox stores. The C4 has an app and you can get out there and send letters. You can send postcards. You can do all those types of things through the app. So what we probably need to do is we just need to have like state chapters or something.

Or like chapters for Turning Point Action where people can get involved in the grassroots. Because right now, you know, we launched it in earnest ahead of the 2024 election. And that was a get out the vote campaign. really that was the there was it does more there's like again we have a scorecard we we rate candidates we rate elected members of of congress and the senate things like that but it sounds like we need we need to maybe ramp that up a little bit because we could create a standing army with chapters in these different states uh maybe there's local chapters i don't know where in missouri you are but we could do something like that but kind of we already have what you're talking about and you know obviously we have our national

events. Amfest is an all ages event. So we'll have, let's say, five, six, seven, eight thousand students. I have no idea what it's going to be this year. I think we had like seven thousand last year. But beyond the seven thousand young people, you had, we had 21,000 people in Phoenix. This year's going to be much bigger just simply because there's just so much more attention. But they're, you know, you can go to those too. And there's a whole bunch of TP action programming that's also a part of Amfest. We do breakout sessions. Tyler does. a great job. The whole action team does a great job there. So that would be my answer. Is that satisfactory to Jill or are you? That's very helpful. What we're looking for really is the structure

to build a club underneath at the state level. We were part of a Republican club called the Pappaderm Club. It was not very satisfactory. Last year, our club raised $25,000. All of that's going to sponsor kids to Amfest and to other TPSA events. We have so far 12 people coming this year and we sent we sent seven girls to Dallas and one kid to Tampa fantastic fantastic so we are yeah and actually Riley Gaines was our speaker at our event so we are we are totally all in we just need some structure to help us I was going to say so I'm going to pitch this idea to Tyler obviously we're drinking we're all drinking through a fire hose right now you can't imagine it's like every day people are contacting us about something else but

this is this is actually something at a grassroots level that is that feels cordial of the mission and something we could say yes to. So we have coalition teams and maybe that's the way to do this. But yeah, I think there's just so much need and desire out there. Thank you, Jill, for the idea. I will give an update if there's an update to be had because I agree with you. So thank you for your call. And thank you for being a member. Members.com.com.com charliekirk.com you can join help keep the lights on uh you know the the future is less certain but we are going to keep going and you guys at members dot charley kirk.com help uh help us move into the future with with confidence we we just love you guys and thank you so much so next caller is

kelsey it sounds like you have a t swift question yes i do have a taylor swift question but I'm not a Swifty. Fair enough. Okay. So her new album just dropped, right? And on her track, wish list, she essentially states that people want to get rich and have things or experiences, but she just wants her man. And she has a line in it that says, I just want you, have a couple kids, got the whole

block looking like you. Charlie talked about getting married and having kids and even shared that he wanted that for Taylor when her engagement news came out. And I like to think that Charlie, given his general dislike or maybe neutrality towards her, would really love that line and would just like your guys' thoughts on that. So I'll chime in first. Do you guys feel free to fill in the blanks here. But Charlie, one of the last sort of, if you will, controversies that Charlie was in was when he just said, Taylor, I hope this makes you more conservative. And I hope you get married.

You have lots of babies. And then he said, he said, but if you don't take his last name, you don't really mean it. Which I still believe I still believe too He was actually It's funny because he took all this heat for it And I remember Laura Ingram asked him about it Our Taylor Swift expert

Get her in the chair Yes And by the way you're gonna have to give a baby update Daisy as well But Charlie actually Actually actually in private group chat Form where it's you know like people don't believe He was actually really happy about it

He was good He wanted young people to look at her And see the example of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey, disagreements aside and said, I hope that they will follow in her footsteps, but just earlier. Don't wait until like 34, 34. How old does she know? 35?

36, I think. But I will say, okay, hi, hi, everyone. How's the baby? Great. Sorry, are you naming your baby Taylor Swift? No, no. Blake actually thinks I should name my baby first name turning middle name point, but I don't think that's going to happen either. This could be an option. How about

Charlie Point, baby? But, okay, I will say, because we've had this conversation with Charlie before where he's like I just wish that I'm glad she said I I know I wish she would have done it sooner and Emma and I have told him every time she all of her last albums if you listen to them she was in a relationship for like six years and every song she's like I want to get married I want to have children this person kind of her last album was like he blindsided me he did not want these things that he said he wanted so then I think that happens to a lot of women where then they end up yeah it does 32 33 34 yes this is fair men do not waste women's

time my admonition to you men in the audience get in and get out if you know you don't want to keep going do not linger on do not waste her time that goes both ways by the way but that i have seen that particular that particular dynamic play out so many times i mean even i remember we talked about this you me and charlie when her last album came out and it that was right after the breakup and she said i'm i'm mad essentially that you let me give you all that youth for free like just feeding me all these lies to keep giving that to you so now i'm by the I'm really happy for her. Charlie was happy for her.

That's also on the woman, though, because I'm telling you, if a man wants to marry you, what do you think the, okay, question for the audience. I'd love freedom at charliekirk.com. Tell me what you think. If you are a woman or a man who wants to get married to your boyfriend or girlfriend, at what point do you say, if you're not going to commit to me, I'm done. I'm moving on. I love you and I want this to work, but if you're not going to commit to me,

I got to cut this off. At what point do you, because wasn't she with him for like four years? yeah so that's way too long time that's way too long a long time um i went on my first date with my husband when i was 19 yeah and essentially on our first day i was like either we are going to be exclusive and be in a relationship or i'm not interested in dating you or really being your friend and then he was like oh my gosh okay we're we're gonna be together now and so i it works when girls do that i'm just saying and the other thing too he instantly called those four other girls and told them yeah no i'm just kidding look if you're listening yeah

The other thing, too, is a lot of young Christian people save themselves for marriage. And so when you're dating and when you're engaged. A common weapon that has worked historically. And Elizabeth and I are in our case, you know, we wanted to get it done. We wanted to get married quick. That does tend to incentivize getting married. So, yeah, it's your point. It's a, it's a very advanced form of societal tech.

Yeah. Monogamy. Yeah. And last conversation we had with Charlie, why is monogamy good? And why is traditional European Christian monogamy great? This is crazy, actually. It's actually insane when you look at how much better it is than alternatives. And you look at societies that don't have it and like the men and women hate each other.

You look at our society where men and women have way more conflict than they did in the past. The Christian view of marriage is actually so great for curbing the worst impulses of both men and women and making them work together as partners. You don't have men stringing along women. You don't have them victimizing women or praying on them. Women, you don't have them, like, constantly trying to upgrade to a higher status guy, doing polygamy, all of that. You're right. And here is 156. This was Charlie talking about T. Swift getting married.

This is something that I hope will make Taylor Swift more conservative. Engage in reality more and get outside of the abstract clouds. Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. you're not in charge and most importantly I can't wait to go to a Taylor Kelsey

concert I can't say it without laughing you got to change your name if not you don't really mean it congratulations Taylor he meant that all right Daisy okay I just want to say back to our caller Kelsey your question

emma K was texting me about the album last night and she was like I wish that Charlie we could tell him about this song because I have the lyrics put up here, but she's like, everyone wants to go on spring break. They want dogs that they can call their kids. They want a yacht. They want an Oscar. And she literally says, I just want you, a bunch of kids, dreaming about the driveway with a basketball hoop, settle down.

Got a wish list. I just want you. And we were proven. Charlie's prophetic. Are you going to read the lyrics to the Woods song now? No, I'm okay. I don't even think I've listened to that one yet. ask the caller, how do you feel that your first name is going to be Taylor Swift's last name?

I've thought about that, and I'm a little uncomfortable, but our name is spelled differently. There you go. All right, all right. Balance of Nature would like to take a moment to honor the life and legacy of our friend Charlie Kirk. Charlie dedicated his life to inspiring each of us to live with a greater purpose. He wholeheartedly believed in meaningful conversations and the power of building stronger communities together. He taught us to be engaged and responsible citizens, leaving us with values that will continue to echo through generations. Charlie was not only a leader. He was a friend

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Like, just one shame this hour, right? I don't know. Blake, do you want to do another shame? It would be fun to do more. You have two minutes to shame somebody. Do you have one you want to hit? No. You don't. Taha Nisi Coates, Nicole Hannah-Jones, Don LaMond. People don't like it when we talk about Don LaMond, by the way.

I saw your emails. I saw your emails. Oh, man. Which one do we want to go after here? There's so many. There are way too many. Look at this. Yes, on a Creed concert at halftime.

One million times, yes, have Creed any Rock 90s Christian band that hasn't sold out and yes, do it. The whole USA would support. you, you have the opportunity to ratio the stupid halftime show and reveal the heart of the nation, do it. That's from Aaron. I love that. Should we do an Elon Omar shaming? Oh, we could do that one. Yeah, let's do that one. Let's do 138. Shame. All right, 138. Shane. Shane. And so the idea that this is a white nation that needs to be preserved is a fascinatingly disgusting view because this country is one for the many

it's one for the many it's one for everyone on planet earth including Ilhan Omar and her dad who like worked for like a dictatorship in Somalia that got overthrown so that they can come here and she can marry her brother which I'm just going to say because it's 100% true yeah and if she thinks it's not true like you know please sue me Ilhan Omar

because I'm pretty sure it's true and it should be investigated to basically commit immigration fraud steal a bunch of money like what a disaster like it's so bad what's happening in america where you can have a lawmaker come in and say i look out for the interests of somalia first and there's not really anything we can do about this because she now is in the government she is controlling the lever that would do what we should do which is deport her back to somalia is there a way to denaturalize you can if you did crimes or fraud while getting your immigration like while getting your citizenship but that feels oddly specific and relevant to this particular

conversation. Shame. Shame. Shame on Ilhan. Shame. Our next caller here, we have Mary. Mary, are you there? We are ready for your question. I am. Hi, guys. Sorry about the background noise. We are traveling at the moment. You're fine. But I want to say, you guys, I am so impressed with how you guys

are carrying on the show. It's still surreal, you know, to us that you know, Charlie's gone. but it feels like he's still here. Erica has been such a source of just power. It's been amazing to watch. But my question, I'm actually curious if you have some advice on, you know, with the current turmoil and division that's going on,

what practical role do you think the local church could offer to young people that the digital world can't? That would inspire them to choose faith over fear. and actually come back in person to church. Mikey? Yeah, yeah. You're young. You know church.

Yeah, I've seen them in a church before. It's true. Yeah, I kind of dabble on all of it on the weekdays. Sometimes maybe I'll go to a mass or something on the weekends, go to another church. As much Jesus as I can get. But right now for young people, the biggest thing is like Forrest Frank, hearing from Christian artists, going back to church, but then also I'm seeing from messages I'm getting are young people coming to our turning

point events. And so a lot of them are like wanting to come to America Fest, wanting to plug in. By the way, we do a Sunday service and worship service at America Fest. Yeah, we do. So, and I think there is like this thing, Mary, I've been talking about it a little bit more and more and more, but this, you know, this idea of new wine and new wine skins, right? You can't put new wine and old wine skins because it will burst, right? that's the parable that Jesus gives us.

And I think God is doing something new with the new generation. So don't force what he's doing into an old paradigm into like the image that you have in your head of what it's supposed to look like. Because there is this, the old way was kind of bifurcating the gospel message and a political message or a cultural message or whatever. I think that God is saying our whole lives have to be integrated, our patriotism, our faith. They're going to call this like Christian nationals or something. saying you need to vote for this candidate or that candidate it might mean that it oftentimes probably does mean that but but we don't have to make it about that what we just have to say is don't bifurcate your life integrate your faith just like charlie did

and i think when it just comes off naturally and and you're just honest about what's informing your political views or your cultural views there's people respect that and i think it's a lot more natural so just i would just say be open-minded and to mikey's point i think it's a great idea send them to send them to amfest send them to yeah send them to or get plugged in at local chapter meetings and just have community. That's the key. We're going to get to one last question here. Tracy, who's in Portland.

Tracy, what's your question? 60 seconds. Hi there. I have 60 seconds to talk. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, it's a quick one. Sorry. Oh, boy.

Well, I'll fire up the questions. Yeah, I'm a fourth generation Oregonian. I have two generations that follow me. So I'm old enough to be your moms. And three questions this morning. How do I support Sorter? Nick's order who was arrested and released this morning in Portland down at the riots

and then same with another gal that was hit in the face anyway how can I support Katie you know I live I have 100 acres 20 minutes from Portland can give them a place of respite oh that's so sweet yeah so yeah I'll just say this really quick just because we're out of time so Harmeet Dylan is on the case and she is going to be looking into the Portland PD because you shouldn't be arresting journalists, you should be arresting Antifa. You should be arresting rioters. So raise your voice as loud as you can. Tell the

world on social media, have Nick Sorders back and Katie Davis, course, back, who's also been involved with Turning Point USA in the past. Thank you guys so much. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.