The Charlie Kirk Show - Ask Us Anything 245: Most Important 2026 Races? Strength in Adversity? Job Application Troubles?
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We have a written one here if we want to start with that.
Let's start with Jen, I think.
All right. Let's start with Jen.
Jen. Hi, good afternoon.
Hey, Jen. How are you?
Good. How are you?
I'm great. What's your question?
So I'm a homeschool mom who basically saw an issue in our community.
I've tried to step up and find a different solution.
We're in Florida. So basically we have county commissioners who voted to pass a new tax.
And none of them live in our actual area.
So we don't, it's literal what I've been teaching in our homeschool is taxation without representation, right?
So I started an initiative that took this solution.
It's a little bit outside of the box.
I've spent a lot of time researching and talking to people in the community.
And this week, our local newspaper did a report on it, on our effort.
And it was very negative and kind of mocked me for it.
People really can't get past the headline.
And it is, it's a little radical to some.
but I'm proposing a new county for our area to give us a little bit more representation and naming it after President Trump.
So my question kind of is, how do you guys, you know, how did Charlie, because there's a lot of negativity surrounding my effort, just push through and persevere, you know, when this negativity comes?
Like, how do you, you know, I've got kids, we're just a regular family, we homeschool, you know, how do you kind of push through that?
yeah i mean i'm happy to happy to take this one you know because i will tell you that charlie was no
stranger to negative headlines and to being taken out of context to smear pieces hit pieces
all the things and it got to the point where we literally would just we would put them in the
chat i would drop the new article in the chat that was you know completely taking something he said
out of context and he would he would literally go l-o-l and you know obviously charlie had a big
microphone. He had this show. He had his social media. So I don't want to, I don't want to say that
it's one to one, but you said it yourself. What he would do is he would just push through. And he
would advance the points he was making. He would advance positive lines. He would advance the
actual mission that he was on, not the representation that somebody would give him or paint a
picture of him that was a lie. But you call a lie a lie. You confront your accusers. You call it a lie and
you push forward and you continue building and building and building. And I mean, Charlie's whole
POV on this was that we were going to outwork you. We were going to out hustle you. We were going to
out message you. And so that's the point. We built positive lines where we could. We built
coalitions where we could and allies where we could. And we pushed through it. Mikey?
Yeah. Great question, Jen. Nice to meet you. I thought I saw this video this morning and I thought
it was so awesome. It was Charlie and Erica, Charlie sitting here, Erica is sitting right there.
I think we have it.
Yeah, it's a long clip, so maybe we don't want to play it.
But he basically, the question was to Erica, do you get the same hate messages and headlines and attacks that Charlie does?
And she said, yeah, and I thought that was really interesting question because you don't always think maybe Erica's not receiving this, but she was.
She said, honestly, I've lost family members.
I've had people attack me.
I've lost friends, but it's my pruning season.
She goes, and I'm figuring out in this season who's my friend and who's not.
she said and then on top of that she goes i have a velvet spine of steel and she goes
you can't let anything get to you she's like i you're soft on the outside but nobody can
get to you on the inside i think a really important thing to always emphasize i think here is
the faith angle if you're if you really are meditating on that part of it if you're praying a lot
if you're always thinking how how can i serve god with my actions what would god want me to do i
I think that helps a lot in these situations.
That gives you a lot of strength when you're under attack.
Although I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall fear.
And you have truth on your side.
Yeah, you have truth on your side.
And so if truth is for you, nobody can be against you.
But then at the same time, if you're always living for God, you have nothing to fear.
Yeah, you know, it's interesting.
I will say, and we should play this clip.
We're going to play it for you, Jen, because I do think it's inspiring.
But, you know, we've lived in this weird post-Charlie world.
and you know there's conspiracies there's you know allegations i mean there's a whole bunch of
crazy stuff but i will tell you so because i've gotten a few friends that'll be like how are you doing
with all this and i'm like i literally don't feel it i do not feel it i don't sense it it doesn't
affect my life because i live with the understanding that what god has unleashed man cannot stop
the haters cannot stop they can harass you they can torment you they can kind of make your
your day miserable i'm sure but god is doing a work god is doing a pruning i think
in our movement. God is doing a pruning in the country. And Erica says it really, really well,
408.
Erica, do you ever get hate from Charlie's work? How do you handle it? Charlie, do you ever
feel guilt or do you ever deal with guilt when Erica gets hate? No, I don't.
I honestly, this is so I got I this is how I know God made us for each other because anytime
I do get quote unquote hate, it's the same stuff you get like that I don't even want to
It's not even worth saying it or repeating the things that were called or the names that were called.
But yes, I do.
I've lost family members.
I've lost friends.
But I actually am kind of grateful that that's happened because God has pruned my life in a way where I am surrounded in a circle now by people who love us, support us, pray with us, encourage us.
A small, mighty circle.
And that's what I would much rather have, a small, mighty circle than a massive one.
It's the people that, you know, that you can trust and pour into.
and yes, do I get hate?
Bring it on.
I'll have a, I'll have a,
a velvet steel spine by the end of,
end of my life, so bring it on.
I have nothing to fear.
Based.
Such a good clip.
That fired me up this morning, and I hope it fires you too.
Jen, I mean, I was ready, I was ready for the day.
Yeah.
Next question.
That velvet steel sign is amazing.
Isn't that a good line?
That's a good one.
That's so, I mean, that's such a good line.
So thank you for that.
I have not seen that one.
And I'm, I'll be putting that up in my bedroom.
I love it.
Yeah, good for you, Jen.
Thanks for, thanks for being a member.
We're going to go to Rain next.
Rain, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
Hello.
Hi, Rain.
Hey, how are you guys?
We're hanging in.
How are you?
What can we do for you?
What's your question?
Gidow.
So my question.
is we'll have two first question is what do you think is going to become of this mondami
meeting at the white house today with trump i think we talked about that that trump is even
allowing him in his orbit well keep in mind trump is a real estate guy he he frankly he loves
having meetings he he will meet it's so funny that so many people are so appalled they're like i
will never meet with him trump is clearly a person who will meet with anyone met with kim jonoon he met
with, you know, Mitt Romney, all these Republicans, yeah, he met with, we get that. Yeah, but this guy is
like the head of a movement that is trying to overthrow everything about what our, our country is
about. For sure, for sure. But as they said, he, he, he met with Kim Jong-un, he wants to meet with
Putin. He wants to meet with Putin again. He met with Democrats all the time during his first
term, even though they were trying to topple him. If, you know, I've heard people on our own side.
they've complained that Trump almost takes too many of these meetings.
But that's just what you're getting with the type of person Trump is.
He is, think of what he is.
He's a businessman, real estate developer.
He comes from a world where you resolve disputes, where you resolve impasses through direct face-to-face contact, through direct conversation.
But do you think that some of that contact, like on a spiritual level, that some of that contact can a
affect a person. I think it can. And I think that limiting your, your involvement with, like, you know, spiritual, you know, that's true. You got to be careful what you let in into the house. I actually really agree with you, Rain. But I would say Trump will meet with anybody. I'm not worried about Trump is so hardened in his ways. Like, I don't think he's, it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks, if you will. I'm not worried about. No one's.
New habits at 80.
No, nobody's, nobody's rubbing off on Trump here.
What he's doing is he's going to size up his, his opponent.
I think it's going to go both ways.
I think there's going to be some warning shots fired being like, don't mess with me.
Don't mess with me in this way.
You stay out of my way in this way.
We're going to be okay.
And we are coming with ice.
That's what's going to happen.
That's, in my opinion, that's what you have to be.
You have to be that way to be like diplomatic and to win hearts and minds.
I get it.
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Rain, what's your second question?
Hey, okay, so for the record, I want you guys to know that I still have won the security bracelet
from the Charlie Clark Memorial that I went to at the LSU Student Union Friday after town.
Like, I just decided that God was going to, it'll fall off when it's supposed to.
but um you know and every time i go to the grocery store wherever and i wanted to be a conversation
piece because i just i don't know i just feel compelled to let that that be an opening to
good conversation like charlie wanted to do and um god i got tears in my eyes right now
one thing that is breaking my heart is just something that's going on with kandis owens
and the things that she's saying and it seems to
to be so valid, but like my heart is pulling, I don't know, that my discernment is saying
to steer of that, but I don't know, I'm just torn and I just don't understand why
it's not being addressed. I mean, especially when she's saying things that seems so sound. And it
hurts. It just hurts because, God, I mean, I've been watching Charlie Kirk for over four years.
watching him got me through some very dark years with my daughter and who was sexually assaulted
by an inopedia, a New Orleans police officer of the trial, just dealing with the FBI.
I mean, we dealt with every three-letter agency and we came out on top and I feel like, like pressing into what I was watching every day with Charlie helped me through that.
and um i just i'm looking for some clarity
like i know that's serious i know it's i'm sorry i mean
what you're saying we we we know it's totally fine and yeah it's a very
i love hearing your heart i love yeah so many people love charlie whether they
the people who knew him best but also just people who'd never met him at all because they
had that he could speak to so many people with his forthrightness with his
he was just one of the most honest people ever in a lot of ways there was nothing hidden with him
and he could speak so well with so many people and you know it my heart breaks for you
because I know there's so many people like you out there and what people with those things
people are saying I would encourage you not to not to take the outlandish things to heart
not to let people divert you from what Charlie was really about what his mission was really
about, you know, and I think, Blake, you said it well. It's like, we have to give space for people
to grieve. There is a trial coming up. We understand that sometimes when we don't speak on every
topic, it creates a bit of a vacuum. And there is, just so you know, there's a reason for some of
the silence on certain things and the choosing not to engage in certain things. But we, but I loved
Rain's heart. And you could tell that she is grieved just by Charlie not being with us and the
the anchor that Charlie was in her life,
but also the fact that, you know,
she wants to carry his mission forward
and she wants everybody to be unified
and on the same page.
So, Mikey, I don't know if you want to add anything to that.
Yeah, I mean, Andrew, you said it.
If there's silence on something,
oftentimes people say that it's silent because it's true.
That's not why.
There's so many accusations out there
against so many people.
Even one of them are like a sermon that my dad gave
where he said that I had, you know,
blood on me. And for the record, like, he gave that sermon. I called my dad moments after everything
happened and I was screaming. I was, I was listening to that call. He said, Blake was next to me. I was
screaming on the phone. I said, Charlie was shot in the neck and he had blood all over him.
He said, and I was screaming that. And I said, you need to call every pastor and pray, pray for a
miracle. And he thought for some reason that I said, I had blood on me. So he gives a sermon 72 hours
later where he addresses that conspiracy and he says that i that i had blood on me okay i didn't see that
sermon and then about a month later that was like trending all over social media and i called my dad and i was
like did you actually say this and he was like yeah i i just found out it's not true so like behind
every single one of these are a human being for an entire month my dad had to live with nightmares
every night that his son actually did have blood all over him didn't you say
say he got emotional when he found out. He got emotional when I was on the phone with him being like, that's not, why did you say that? He was so glad to hear it wasn't true. Yeah, like that not everything is some grand scheme. And just because someone's not answering all of your questions when you want them to answer your questions is not me. To close the loop on this, I think, I think, but there's a lot of people, a lot of people are deeply affected by this. Yeah. And for some people, the temptation of something very emotional.
upsetting is they want to like frankly sometimes there's a temptation to lash out and I would remember that I would encourage you to remember all of us love Charlie all of us care deeply about Charlie it is fundamentally I'll just say it it is fundamentally outrageous and insane to say that any of us would have wanted Charlie dead or wanted anything bad to happen to him and
when we get emails where people just say you killed charlie or like you're lying about everything
i would strongly encourage those people to reflect on what is motivating them to do these things
yeah i want to also say um there is a there is a point where you you know it's it's deeply
frustrating that somebody like mikey would have to even dignify some of like that you know
this story that you just you'd have to even dignify that with a response i mean it's so insane
but by the way i love that rain is wearing a uh she was talking about her bracelet from the memorial
and it was funny because just this morning i saw a bunch of like we are charlie kirk bracelets
on mikey's desk i was like i want one of these i never wear these kind of bracelets not really my
thing but i'll wear it for charlie so i thought that was that was great jonathan you're next
so my question is what are the big races in 2026 how can we get involved in those races
All right, I can take the first part, the biggest race is obviously the one Charlie would have cared the most about and the one that's very near to our heart.
Arizona governor is up this next year.
We want to get Andy Biggs into, I always want to say the governor's mansion.
Arizona doesn't have a governor's mansion.
They're too cool for that.
We want him to get into the governor's office.
There's a lot of good we can do in this state, but we need the governorship back.
We need to undo the grievous injustice of four years, three years ago, I guess.
But that is one of the most important.
A lot of other governorships are up, and a lot of them are term limited guys.
So we have to, you know, Ron DeSantis is term lit it out in Florida.
We need to make sure a Republican wins that one.
That might sound super easy.
But remember, eight years ago or six to seven years ago, we only won that by, what, 30,000, 40,000 votes.
It was very close.
Florida is never a lock.
It's a big state.
Ohio is going to be an open seat.
Texas, we have Abbott running for another term.
They're going to put a lot into trying to flip that one.
And then in the Senate, we have, frankly, it's going to be a, it's a defensive map.
We have 22 Republicans up and only 13 Democrats.
We need to defend the Florida Senate seat.
We need to defend the Texas Senate seat.
We have an open seat in North Carolina that we need to defend.
Our best chance for a pickup is probably going to be Georgia.
Or Michigan.
We're going to need a pretty strong showing for Michigan to go our way.
So just a reminder.
So Republicans currently hold a 53-47 majority in the Senate.
So we're talking about Senate.
So you've got North Carolina.
It's an open seat.
You got Tom Tellis who's leaving.
I think that's going to be challenging.
Yeah.
And they're running the Roy, I think it's Roy Cooper, who is a former governor, the Dems are.
Yeah, versus Rodley.
Running a popular guy who's very popular.
Yeah.
So that's going to be a challenge.
I wouldn't, that's going to be tough.
Michigan, we have an open seat.
Senator Gary Peters is retiring.
It's a toss-up race.
Blake is not feeling that great about it. Ohio, so Republican Senator John Hustead is defending
the seat. And former Democrat Sherrod Brown is being actively recruited to run again. So we'll
see what happens there. Georgia, John Ossoff. So he's considered vulnerable. Maine, you have Senator
Susan Collins. She's a moderate Republican. Charlie always was good stepping up. People complain about
Susan Collins. Deal with it. She is far better than any Democrat will ever
get from Maine and if we lose her we'll probably never get that seat back yeah we are fighting to
defend college yeah and in texas you obviously have senator john cornon who is going to get primaried
by uh attorney general ken paxton yeah and some others uh so we'll see we'll see what happens in
texas but we should hold the texas if we don't when we have really really big of course the house
races are going to be very interesting this year around because we have all of these new maps
that will possibly cause a lot of seats to yeah we're going to be seen
Seeing how that shakes out, obviously, the Texas map at this point is in the courts, their future.
We have a few states we're still fighting to get those new maps past, Indiana.
I believe Ohio is still in contention.
So we'll see how those all shake out.
But we should get to the other half of the question, which is how you can get involved.
Yeah, how you can get involved.
I mean, Tyler would say this, first of all, get involved at coalitions.com.
We own the URL.
That's a turning point action URL.
So it's, you know, a lot of people are like, oh, we're.
We want to start a turning point chapter for adults in this day, this day.
The way we do it is we don't do the turning point chapter thing,
which is like kind of our campus base for high school and college campus.
But if you're an adult and you want to get involved and plugged in,
go to coalitions.com.
You can plug in whether you're a farmer, you're a mom, Latinos, African America,
all the things that you, the little kind of groups that you might have, affinity groups for,
you can plug in there.
But they all gather all collectively and together.
And there's a coalition for you to join.
And then what we do is we dispatch those coalitions with technology, data, door knocking
lists, all the things that you need to get involved in your local community and your local races.
So coalitions.com would be the main thing.
There's other ways to get involved at Turning Point Action.
You could apply for actual staff jobs if we're hiring in your area in Arizona.
We're going to have a lot of employment opportunities for full-time ballot chasing.
But that will not be the only place that we do that in 2026.
but as Blake said, Arizona is going to be a key, key focus for us.
Simply, it's not only important for the sake of the country and the state of Arizona,
but it was so dear to Charlie that you better believe we're going to leave it all out on the field on that one.
So check out TP Action for opportunities.
Download the app, Turning Point Action app, and check out coalitions.com.
So hopefully that answers all of your question.
Any follow-up here?
We do have about a minute left, if you have any.
I do have one of the question, actually.
I was actually at some of the smaller events where I couldn't find the videos,
but I was able to ask some questions.
Where did I find the videos for those?
Like, I was able to ask Tom Homan, not in the main session a question,
but in a smaller session.
Do you have videos for that?
Where could I find those?
Do you mean like the, the Q&A's member events?
Oh, those might be old Charlie episodes.
You could possibly...
It was AM Fest last year.
Yeah, so those are...
Yeah.
Jonathan, those are going to be at members.
Charliekirk.com.
They're exclusive member interviews.
So that's one of the value ads that we give to our members.
So those are actually-
I remember.
I was able to do it.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm just curious. I was so annoyed.
I couldn't find them.
Yeah, no, they're on the member site.
So you can actually search those through the member site.
Obviously, they get kind of buried, but just search Tom Holman, for example, or whatever.
And you should be able to bring some of that stuff up.
So they are there.
Yeah.
I know we're working on all of that because we get a lot of questions about finding old episodes.
Yeah, and we are going to be working on a full sort of AI search.
Now, we are not going to create an AI Charlie.
I just want to be very clear about that.
We've all, Blake's been pitched on it.
I'm not going to talk about AI stuff.
I just mean, I think we need a good database of searchable old Charlie episodes, which was less of a concern.
What I'm saying is we're using AI tools to make it even more searchable.
So it'll actually scan kind of the things he said and things like that.
So if you remember something that he said and you're going to look for it.
So we're going to build that whole database.
It might take all of 2026 to build it.
I'm not sure.
Hopefully we can get a faster timeline.
But we are going to build that so everybody can get all of the things that Charlie said
and search them with the help of AI.
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Show. What is your question? Yes, hi. First, I'm still praying for all of you. You're doing
an amazing job continuing Charlie's legacy and you should just be so proud and everyone thinks
that. I just digress on my question for one second. When people are listening to maybe other
individuals who claim to be in the conservative space, they should remember that Charlie was a godly
man who surrounded himself with godly men who thought of him as a son, that his friends thought
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Well set.
Okay.
What's your other question?
Yeah.
No, well said.
Thank you for that.
And thank you for the kind words.
Genuinely.
That means a lot to us.
I don't think. You're very welcome and very well earned. The reason that I was calling, and this isn't about financial support to Israel, because that can be debated one way or the other, and that's fine. But what has been bothering me lately are the absolute disgusting lies being told about Israel. And I just wanted to sort of give a small example. Population growth in the West Bank in 1967 was 700,000 people. In 2025, it was 3,400. That's a population growth of 2.7 million.
That's 4.9 more Palestinians there were since 1967.
In the Gaza Strip, it was 350,000.
Now it's over 2.1 million, and that's a 5.2 times increase.
My point is they're lying about Israel committing a genocide.
I mean, there's definitely a funny line I saw.
Do you know the humorist Dave Barry?
He's been in newspapers a long time.
He's pretty old now.
But the humorist Dave Barry, someone showed me an article he wrote in 1990.
and it was about the UN and he says the UN general assembly exists to allow every it allows every
like random third world nation into it and it exists primarily to pass resolutions condemning
Israel for everything including sunspots and it really is there's an like it's like it's exactly
like you say there is perfectly valid grounds to criticize the exact nature of our relationship
with Israel should we fund them should we give them this or that weapon do we need to have
unconditional support for any specific political action. Should the U.S. ambassador be meeting with a
convicted traitor? No, he should not. Exactly. Exactly. So you can discuss all of those things,
but it's also the case that a lot of people just, they have an obsession with it that clearly transcends
anything that is reasonable. And they have this intense dislike verging on hate. And some of that
will just become telling lies about it.
And what I like to emphasize is there's something about it that it goes beyond its actual
importance to America as an issue.
For a lot of people, how you feel about Israel has become this symbol of how you feel about
the wider world.
And it's perhaps specifically because it is actually a place so far away from America,
it allows people to get really amped up in their emotional and moral energy about it.
while at the same time not having direct skin in the game on what the outcome is.
And I think that really allows people to just say whatever.
Like, if you tell a lie about your neighbor, that neighbor might punch you in the face.
But if you tell a lie about a country on the other side of the world, probably nothing is going to happen to you.
Correct.
I think...
Also, did you guys know that their Supreme Court justice?
They have an Arab Muslim on their Supreme Court.
They have...
Did they pass that bill?
I remember we talked about that a couple of years ago.
Israel's entire court system is pretty wild.
They're one of those countries where the judges can appoint their own successors.
Can you imagine how terrible America would be if judges in this country just could appoint,
like you'd have super liberal Supreme Court of the 70s, the court that did Roe v. Wade,
and they would just be appointing their own successors.
You can't have Reagan or Trump or appointing more conservative justices to change it.
Just appointing liberal Trevor.
That is actually how they ran things.
They definitely did run things in Israel.
I'm not sure if that bill passed.
I haven't closely followed it.
But there's just a lot of wild things.
It's an important thing to remember.
It is a real country.
It is not just a thing that exists on TikTok.
It is not just a thing that exists on social media.
It is a real country with its own internal divisions, its own issues.
It's not this monolith.
That's what drives a lot of weird conspiracy theories about it that all Jews or all Israelis have the same opinion and operate in concert.
all I can say is if you think all Jews have the same opinions you've clearly never met any of them because
go to one Shabbat dinner they'll argue with each other all the time
well and I always think you know the the allegations of the you know Jewish people run the world or something like that
it's like if you ever seen the UN and how much how much how many uh sanctions and you know
have been leveled against Israel and it's basically you know so if they can control the
the world. They would control the UN, but they don't. But to your point, I mean, I was looking
up the numbers with your question about the Palestinian birth rates. And, you know, they do
have a very high birth rate. Their population has actually increased, albeit at a slower rate
than it otherwise would have during the war. And that, again, is probably because of people
emigrating out. There's over 100,000 people that got out through the Rafa crossing. They suggest that
about 50,000 have died
in the conflict. So, I mean, listen.
Also, when they say about killing children,
they use child soldiers and that has been
documented by the United Nations. Well, and they use,
they do a lot of
bad stuff. They're a
terrorist group that seized a
control of a territory. They're bad
dudes. Here's the thing. I hope that we can
pray for peace. I hope that we talk about
this issue much, much less because the peace
holds and it becomes a long-term peace.
And I think
I speak for a lot of us when we say it
be wonderful not to have to talk about this area of the world nearly as much moving forward.
Thank you so much for your question. Laura, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
Hi, folks. Can you hear me okay?
Yes, we can.
Wonderful. Well, thank you. I want to be brief so I can be considerative of other times,
but I do want to say I am so sorry for your loss of Charlie.
I think that you guys have been doing the absolute best you can to move forward.
and carry his mission and that's so clear to me and so many of us and we we feel very I can speak for
myself here but feel very comforted when we come to join the show every day because it feels like we're
interacting with parts and pieces of Charlie. Thank you so much. Through all of you. It's a very sweet
Lord. Thank you. Thank you. So something that and I actually, I was building up the courage to
maybe join alive before Charlie was killed was to talk about the hiring processes right now.
So obviously Charlie was a big advocate for, you know, college as a scam.
And I myself, I have a very successful degree in not, or I'm sorry, career in not having a degree.
And many people that I know have, you know, worked their way up in life and just become, you know, self-learners and have done
the same, but when, you know, something happens and they need to go and look for a job,
they're hit with automatic rejections because these, I guess it's the hiring systems have this
nice little checkmark of, you know, four-year degree or master's degree. And if you're not
hitting that, then you're automatically getting thrown out. So these well and overqualified
candidates are getting completely, they're not even passing a person's desk. It's just
automatically getting filtered out. You're putting in over 200 applications.
and getting absolutely nowhere and not able to talk to a real person about it.
So just, you know, in feeling empowered and not needing a degree to be successful,
how do you guys recommend, you know, people that don't but are having a hard time getting a job?
How do we navigate the employment search?
First of all, I just want to empathize greatly with how horrible it is.
I think applying for a job was annoying and frustrating five years ago.
It's gotten an order of magnitude worse with, frankly, artificial intelligence, because now there are people who can spam essentially unlimited applications.
They can use AI to write their cover letters, write their, like, instantly customize your resume towards this page, and they can endlessly spam.
And then you have similar AI robots evaluating the applications.
It's made the entire process just that much more horrible.
and I think it's going to lead to probably a resurgence of what would be very old-fashioned,
which is the need to really leverage personal relationships, build personal relationships
and leverage those to find employment.
I guess I can don't speak to myself.
I can't give a lot of specific advice on how to get a job in a specific field.
What I can say is that professionally it's the friendships I've had, the close conversations
I've had with those I know that have pandasies.
out the most in giving me opportunities i i remember you bragging one time that you've never had a job
that you've applied for yeah and that's that's i don't really want to say that with someone when people are
struggling because i know that's a very tough thing to say just kind of network what i could say like
so as an example it's sort of weird to say but getting involved like in the elections for
example and not just getting involved talking to all of the people that you volunteer alongside
about what they do what their work is none of that is going to specifically
get you a job but knowing lots of people it will increase your ability to be lucky yeah you think of
those people who have that story oh i was just having that conversation and it turned out it totally
changed my life or you've heard that story where you talk to someone in the line at the grocery
store and oh 40 years later we're married and we have eight kids yeah everyone's heard those stories
you increase your ability to be lucky by being out there by knowing more people
and also by acquiring skills you think yeah what is something you could be
better at that has a possible professional use yeah and that might be a handyman type skill those
are always in demand it might be computer programming except now that's getting displaced by AI it is
genuinely go be a plumber that's I don't think AI will displace that any you I don't want to be
too smug about that because there we no it's a great thing we should not shame that we should know
go to shame them but we've gotten emails from people who say I went to trade school and I've
struggle there. A lot of trade stuff is actually quite insular. There will be family shops and
they're somewhat hostile to union barriers. You don't want to just say, oh, it's easy. Go to trade
school. You'll automatically get a job. We never want to dismissively say it's super easy. Do you guys
have any other thoughts? I mean, I agree with the part about relationships. Relationships are the
absolute key. And I would I would also say that for young people, what I often tell young people is
find somebody that you really, really look up to, respect in the field that you're interested in
pursuing and call them, ask them to take you up for coffee, say, I'll work for you for free.
Can I get an internship? Anything. I'll just get coffee. I'll be the donut and coffee runner guy.
Just offer to get your foot in the door and then work your tail off. That is, I think, the most
wonderful thing for young people that they can do. Find somebody you respect that you look up to who's
the best in their field and just do everything you can.
to get in their way. And good things tend to happen. My nephew, I gave that advice to my nephew and it
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Hi, guys.
Hey, Sarah.
welcome to the show hi thanks how are you we're doing all right we're doing all right what's your question
yeah so um i'm from canada i actually called him last week um and my question is there's a turning point
u.s there's a turning point UK and there was a turning point Canada but up until 2018 um well actually
it ran for about a year and a half and then it just miraculously disappeared and
its ex account is like totally inactive and there seems to be nothing from that particular
group. I'm just curious, do you guys know what happened to Turning Point Canada? I don't think that
was actually ever officially. I don't think it was official. So what happened was we, many years ago,
we helped start the TPUK chapter. It was like an affiliate. But essentially it runs fairly
independently there's you know they're still sort of quasi connected part of us same spirit uh they
they promote charlie's uh comments and his social media videos and they run their own accounts and when
charlie and you guys went to the uk you guys connected with some of those guys that are still
connected with that that account so there is talk by the way from some of these groups in i think
like alberta and others that want us to start i think those conversations are ongoing i don't
think we've made a decision you know we are an america first uh...
There's no doubt about it. And so we are hesitant to put our attention outside of the domestic affairs. We were really realizing this in the last few months, you know, when Charlie went to the UK, Charlie went to Korea, went to Japan, that he had become actually this global hero to so many people. So many, it's easy to forget. So many people around the world look up to America because we have this assertive conservative movement that is not that we have real freedom of speech. We can really confront big issues. It inspires a lot of people. And so.
So while we are America first, he certainly did not think American values were exclusive
to America or Christian values.
That they were God-given.
Yeah.
We believe that they're innate.
And so we would want to promote those things.
So as we've talked about on this show, we had Sarah Rogers from the State Department on
the other day.
We're still in discussions on what this might look like.
But there's a lot of hope we could use the Turning Point brand, Charlie's personal memory,
to promote those values, especially free speech, you know, the Christian West and so on.
around the world we're not sure what that might look like but it might include some sort of
global turning Canada Canada would be an obvious place to plant that they need it so we have a
question from Kimberly Kimberly please unmute yourself welcome to the show Kimberly
hello yes I love how excited we all get I know I do this this is my first time so I didn't know
what's going on no thank you welcome we're grateful to have you okay um I'm sorry to say that I
had heard of Charlie Kirk before he died and that day that's what I heard of him of course
because it was all over the news that he died you know and I just I just wish I would have
heard of him a long time ago because he's like he's he's saying everything that I've done
I okay I got married when I was 17 I have 11 children
My oldest son is his age, Charlie Kurt's age, but my oldest son died three years ago.
And eight of my children were born at home.
All of my children are homeschooled.
I have eight grandchildren that were born at home.
And I was, I got to say, when I was very young, I was four years old.
Anyway, I just, I listen to Charlie Kirk all the time now.
Of course, every day, like I listen to his shows and to you guys.
it's just amazing what he did
in the short time
that he was here, you know?
It is, it is.
I think Kimberly
just something...
First of all, 11 kids is amazing.
That is a legendary accomplishment.
Charlie would be applauding you right now
and saying, well done, well done.
Well done.
But also, I just want to say, you know,
it's something I've actually talked about with E.
I don't think she would, Erica,
I don't think she would be offended
that I bring it up here,
but I've talked about it with you as well.
looking back on Charlie's life
and he would get so impatient
like about little things
and it was actually really endearing about him
he you know he just moved at such a
rapid clip with everything
everything and I look back on it
and I kind of realized that it's like he knew
he knew his time was going to be short
and he maximized so much of his life
every day he squeezed so much out of it
it was really amazing
and how much content he banked
I remember we used to have conversations and you'd be like,
truthfully, I think we're banking too much content.
But now there's such a rich archive of history for us to look back on.
But there's also something beautiful.
This is an example of the macro, which is Charlie was a good, faith-based human being.
And you share your story about how you discovered him after, after.
And you feel like maybe it was just a little too late and you wanted to discover him
when he was still alive and you just are learning more about him and the deeper you go you have
such a love for him but that's how we feel as christians too that there's just once you start that
relationship with christ and this is something i just feel like charlie would be saying right now is
you go deeper and you get to know him more and like that charlie was amazing because he lived for
something greater than himself and that that was died for something greater than himself and i just
think that you're you're giving such a beautiful analogy right now of what we as Christians feel
that that Charlie died for something bigger than himself and that we one day hopefully hopefully
we too can die for something greater than ourselves yeah and Kimberly I don't know if you got to
your question yet or not so I want to make sure I give you a chance to to ask what you wanted to
ask I didn't um well I didn't really have a question I mean I wanted to say stuff that's totally fine
It's totally fine.
That was a beautiful testimony.
You know, and Kimberly, like something I said actually at the memorial that I think is important is just that, you know, we don't grieve the way the world grieves.
You know, I obviously losing Charlie was probably, it was probably the hardest thing that I've ever been through that this organization has ever gone through, obviously.
But we don't grieve the way the world grieves.
And I feel like God has given me all of these beautiful little little.
just clues and moments of realization, you know, whether it was, we weren't doing, we weren't doing
a campus tour. We were doing a tent revival. And Charlie wasn't just a political figure or
podcaster. He was a prophet to a whole generation of Americans. He's a modern day founding father
and he died a martyr. And I miss him. He's the first thing I think about when I wake up. He's the
last thing I think about when I go to sleep. But I'm so grateful that I got to
spend so much time so close to him genuinely for more on many of these stories and
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