The Charlie Kirk Show - Calling the Dems' Epstein Bluff

Episode Date: November 14, 2025

After a letdown end to their government shutdown, Democrats hoped to use new Epstein emails to hurt the Trump Administration. But Rep. Tim Burchett used a clever maneuver to expose their plan and their indifference to actual Epstein victims. He talks about that as well as the corrupted values of D.C. more generally. Daniel Boston of Preserve Gold discusses the economy and using precious metals to ride out tough times. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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talking about walmart wedding rings this is a whole big viral story that's blown up this woman said no because the the gentleman did not get the right ring and we got this email from an absolute legend her name's kim he says hey all i'm much older than all of you married almost 40 years i received no engagement ring at all and still said yes gold silver metal paper mean nothing get refocused on what matters. Here, hear, Kim. God bless that. God bless Kim for, for setting the record straight. What a hero. Yeah. And so, Congressman, we'll welcome you in now. I mean, I don't know if you want to opine on wedding ring choices and if you should get them from Walmart or the shape if they matter, but the floor is yours. Welcome to the Charlie God's show. It's actually merchant. So you said

Burchard. Oh, Bergen. Yes, sir. Nobody ever gets it right. That's cool. I don't care. Well, you know what, Congressman? I did talk to your team before this, I will say, and I'm pretty sure I said it wrong there, too, and they did not correct me. Birchett. Well, God bless you, sir. That's why I'll be looking for a new team

when I get off this call with y'all. No, wedding rings. You know, I gave my wife, my mama's wedding ring. My daddy came home from the Second World War in the Pacific, and you can't see it, but these... I don't know something to camera angle here, but let's see if I can do it up there. You can see these guns.

that are behind me, dear. I don't know. Anyway, they're up there on the wall. There were guns. My dad took off the dead Japanese soldiers that he actually killed in combat. But my daddy came home from the war and bought an Indian motorcycle

with what they called mustering out pay which is a couple hundred bucks. He was on Palau in Okinawa and then went to China and fought the communist after war in the Marine Corps. His colonel was a guy named Chesty Puller. But daddy, when he came home from the war, he did like a lot of guys did.

they raised a little hell and he wrote his Indian around and then he finally sold it to buy my mama her wedding ring well I gave my wife that wedding ring and I bought a 1947 Indian chief and I still and I have both I have all three of them I have my wife that wedding ring and the Indian chief that my it's very it's identical to the one my dad had that he sold to buy that wedding ring for so I guess I'm sentimental but and it's not a very big wedding ring but but it's but it seemed to help keep and diamonds are a racket anyway it's a yeah they are it's a conglomerate i don't know that they're that rare i just know that they uh they charge you a heck of a lot of money so um congressman you are an absolute legend i i think uh i mean we're going to talk about absin

just a second but i i just it strikes me that the values that the that that that gave rise to people like you and this america that we are we we all sort of seem to have this memory of we have just lost touch with it we've lost track we lost the plot somewhere along the way and when i think that's why you seem to resonate with people so much is that you are a throwback you are somebody that represents in america that my family when i was when i was raised in northern nevada rancher stock rodeos and baseball and chewing tobacco like that's you know my my grandpa fought in the second world war as well i i mean it's just it's refreshing to hear hear the way you look at things candidly. And, I mean, I guess you represent your people well

in that way. Thank you. Actually, that's when they do this crazy polling, all those outside polling groups come in and do this. And that's generally what they find out. A lot of people don't agree with him, but they know how I stand. And, you know, Mama was a, mom and daddy grew up in the Depression, and she flew an airplane during the Second World War. So, I mean, they instilled some pretty good values in me and I'm I've tried to I hope I haven't disappointed them and but I'm you know I guess my chosen profession they probably thought I'd do something honorable instead of go to go to Congress but no but I appreciate you saying that brother I just I'm sick of it I'm just sick of it and and plain talk wins out I don't you know it's funny when I first got to Congress I asked the

leadership I asked to everybody I said please get me you know, help me get on the news, help me talk to the press. I'd like to put our message out. And nobody would ever help me, leadership would. Oh, we'll help you. And then they run you down some dirt road somewhere. And, you know, and I found out that I'm just going to do my own goddamn thing. And that's what we've done.

And we've had some really good success. I feel like our message has resonated. I know, you know, that when I'm walking through airports, little old ladies, give me the thumbs up. So as long as that's a lot of that. the finger sticking up at me. I'm okay with it. I think that that's the right one. Yeah. Thank you. Well, Congressman as well, you talk about straight talk and just cutting through the noise. You made a lot of news yesterday with this selfie video. It looks like you're walking

out of the Capitol building. If I'm not mistaken, I'm looking at a screen grab. But take us, take us back two steps, because you get through this shutdown and then, bam, Democrats release this bombshell about Epstein. How did. we even get to that point? Because you're on the oversight committee, correct? Yeah, yeah. And Chairman Comer's doing the right thing. He's, it's boring, tedious work. He just released several thousand more pages yesterday. They're going through it and they're redacting the names of innocent people and some of these girls that don't want their name out. And that's something that needs to be talked about at some point is that some of these ladies

don't want their names out. And the Democrats are just hell bent on, on destroying. destroying these people's lives. I mean, they're going to instantly overnight, they're going to have a microphone stuck in their face. And some of them have gone on to life. You know, they have families and, you know, they don't want to put that memory out. And we were literally in a closed door meeting. Democrats and Republicans were there. And we, it wasn't a question and answer, but I felt like I was, I needed to be that person. And I said, hey, I said, this lady said, she wanted to access to the files because she was in them. But her mind had, had blacked it all out. And God gives people that defense mechanism. Sometimes people incur some just horrendous things as children or whatever. And that's a defense mechanism. And it's blocked out of their mind. And she wanted to go back and read the files and find out where she was and what they've done,

what that dirt bag had done to her. And so they said, and so I said, ma'am, so you want the files released? And she said, no, I do not want the files released. I just want to have access to them. And, you know, and they're like, and the attorney said, no, she does not want those files released. And, you know, that never gets out. And I'm just sick of it. And the Democrats yesterday proved exactly what they're all about during the shutdown and everything else.

It's political theater. All they want is power and control. They don't want anything out. They just want the control over the mindset of the population. Oh, we're going to take your health care away. We're going to starve you to death. And nothing is further from the power. the truth and yesterday proved it because this lady that's in that this email that they released

said Trump did her no harm she said that under oath in court in a dad-gum federal court setting I mean she could do time if she if they if she perjured herself and she wanted her name not released but in her bravery she just said forget it and she said this is a lie this is not this is not accurate so you're going to believe etstein and gilslane maxwell or whatever the heck her name is i got one name wrong i can help you with that one yeah yeah you're you're going to believe them over this this the innocent this victim that's that's what the democrats are doing they do not care about the people all they care about is damaging trump if look if joe biden had this for four years, and there was one iota of damaging evidence against Donald Trump, don't you think they

would release it? They will not answer that. They will not answer that. Kamala Harris or Kamala or whatever the heck her name was or is. She would have, she would, you know, Donald Trump is the antichrist to these people. They, they, they wake up every morning with just this white, hot hatred of Trump. And they can't, and they, because they've been spoon fed by the liberal media, it turns out a lot of it your tax dollars were funding and this is what we get we're honored to be partnering

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Alan Jackson Ministries is working hard to bring biblical truth back into our culture. You can find out more about Pastor Allen and the ministry at Alanjaxon.com forward slash Charlie. So we have a clip here from Charlie about Epstein. I want to see if we can fit it in. Go ahead and play 310. And this is no longer just speculation. First of all, the evidence that shows that Epstein was a creation of either Massad, Israeli intelligence, American intelligence, Saudi intelligence,

Or maybe he was just a hired gun. Maybe he was just the guy that countries would go to and park a couple hundred million bucks and say, hey, can you get one of the members of the royal family with a 13-year-old so we can get them to do what we want to do? Members of Congress are actively being blackmailed. The Epstein playbook is being used on a daily basis. Ooh. So was Epstein just like an elaborate foreign honeypot? op congressman you i want to get to this video that made a ton of waves yesterday it's a little bit longer so maybe we'll cut it off halfway through but go ahead and play cut 291 just left the house floor

and i tried to do a uc unanimous consent of a tried to get the Epstein files get it straight to the floor just to cut out all this nonsense and um you know and the democrats blocked it oddly enough. Now, I hear they've had it for four years, and they, obviously, if there's something there about Trump, they would have released it. And now they're all, oh, let's get it out, let's get out. Well, I just made a motion. Congressman, so you tried to call their bluff here is what I'm seeing, you know, and now Adam Kinsinger is saying, who's not even in Congress, he's coming at you, saying, oh, this is wrong, it was not a UC, Democrats didn't oppose it. What's the story here and what were you driving at? I actually put another video out today just to correct.

correct. Some of those folks like Adam, I used to sit in front of Adam. I'm not sure what happened. I think I know what happened to Adam. I'd love to talk to somebody sometime about it, what my theory is. But anyway, I clarified exactly what I did. I put it out unanimous consent. You have to, and by definition, it's unanimous consent. It has to be unanimous. So the Republican leadership agreed with it. The Speaker Johnson did. And Hakeem Jeffries and the Democrats disagreed with it. They did not want it out. And it was Roe Conna's bill. It didn't affect Massey's bill at all. His whatever they want to do with that is fine. But I'm just sick of it because yesterday proved my point with all that garbage coming out on Trump that was just just falsified.

Look, they want to grab articles out of that thing. They want to pick and choose and probably both sides do. And that's fine. That's politics. But America deserves a little better. Just throw it all out there and let them decide and cut through all the chase because what they're going to do is they're going to it's going to go to rules committee it's going to go through all this other nonsense that we really don't need and puts too much power in people's hands and then they just pontificate on it for hours and it gives the news that hates trump that hates america just more ammo to do it and i just said look put it on unanimous consent and then it then it says everyone voted for it nobody can say they didn't vote for it and it puts it on the dad gum it puts it on

act and it's done and then it goes to the senate but no they want to they want a dog and pony show and you know rocana is a democrat he's um he represents one of the most actually the wealthiest area of the country is um uh Silicon Valley out there in California I guess so he um you know he even sent me a message and said you know thank you brother more or less. You know, we're friends. I'm actually going to go in his district. I'm going to bring him out of here on the farm and let the donkeys chase him around a little bit. Congressman, I want to get your point on. I'm so glad you called their bluff because you're right. If they would have had something four years of Joe Biden, they would have released it. Let's be honest. But who do you think Jeffrey Epstein was? What was his, what was that about? We got about two minutes here. Please tell us what you think the truth of this whole story is. He's a dirt bag. He's burning in hell, of course, and I'm glad I would have sent him there myself. I don't think he committed suicide. I think something happened to him. That's neither here nor there. I think he was out there, and he was a flagrant name dropper. He was an egomaniac. And so he put his name out there, and these groups seized upon him. And then he moved in the direction that they needed. And he came up with this scheme of being a money manager. and in other countries, I think they contral. I don't think he had any soul.

I just think they contracted with him and he got caught up in it. And as those guys do, and he just, as I see a lot of these, pedophiles do. And he cost a lot of ladies their lives. And that's what he did. And countries used him. And yeah, the honeypot exists. But more or less now today, you know, they hire your wife and or your girlfriend to work in some no-show, $200,000. job and and then you just vote their will but the way they work the honey pots is you know you're

you're in some foreign i don't go on these these trips overseas i'm not that's not my back um but they go overseas you're sitting at some bar and they know what you like you know because they own all the porn sites they're monitored everything you do and and in all your thoughts so if you're into in the ladies there's there's there'll be some pretty lady laughing at your jokes and you're like redheads or whatever and they're they're gonna bring a redhead in and next thing you know you're you're in a motel room with them sleeping with them and then you think well i i just pulled off the perfect crime it's out of country the wife doesn't know the kids doesn't know it just had a night of whatever and then you're getting ready to make a vote and some person you know it's usually always

somebody you know walks up and they've got you know an envelope in their hand or something and they say hey uh i've got um how are you going to vote on this well i'm going to be vote for it oh you can't do that. Oh, yeah, yeah, I am. I said, no. I said, were you in a motel room in Istanbul? And then they go, oh, crap. And then we don't want that out. And they go, oh, no, no, I can't help that out. And he goes, oh, look, we need to vote against this bill. And then that's how they do. They own you. All right. Congressman, I want to wrap up this out because it's just too, it's too important. And you've told this story before, I think a Tucker made with Benny. I've seen a few clips floating around. But, you know, what you said, though, before that, you said

that more often now, because I think you kind of, we're becoming wise to these schemes, and I'd have to believe that these congressmen are getting wise to this scheme. Maybe they're not. But now it's just they're going to put their wife or and or their girlfriend in some do nothing, $200,000 a year job. I mean, I've personally seen that. I've personally seen this. I know it's true. This is what they do to deal with problems. I mean, so the corruption is rife. Because the sex thing, Clinton ruined that for all of us. When my 80-plus-year-old mama said the word condoms one time because, you know, Bill Clinton had just ruined that for everybody.

Look, sex doesn't even, nobody cares. I mean, it's like a right of passage. And I don't stay at a motel. I don't stay in an apartment. I sleep in my office every night. And I go down to the gym and shower in the morning because they're a can. cameras everywhere. Reagan said it best. Trust but verified. And there's a reason in motels you walk by a bar on the way up to your room. Well, Congressman, you are a breath of fresh air.

I'd love to have you back on and hear your theories about Adam Kinsinger. You know, he knew Charlie, by the way. There was no love loss between those two guys because Adam went the way of, I don't know which way he went, but maybe you can explain it. But it's not good. I was there when he went. but I would love to real quick if I could are we recording this or we're just talking? No, this is live, yeah, this is Okay, good, good, right?

And the last time I talked to, Charlie, it was 253 in the morning on the night of the big beautiful bill and he called me, but we can talk about that like that. Yeah, I'll have you back on. We'll have you back on next week. This has been fantastic.

Congressman Burchett, apologies on the name. You are the man, and I will not mess that one up again. It just, you know, people think my last name is Colvay or something. or Colvert. That's what I get. All right, brother. Thank you so much, Congressman. Tim Burchett from Tennessee 2nd, House Oversight Committee, doing great work there, sir.

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Thanks for having me, Andrew. Yeah, honestly, it's an honor to have you. You are one of those companies that when everything went down and the tragedy that we all experienced, you guys have just remained steadfast. and you have my respect, my appreciation, and also, you know, the reason that we were with you to begin with, I mean, it was a really intense vetting process that we went through. And so we knew that you guys were our kind of people. We knew that there was alignment on a bunch of different things.

But then the way that you've handled this in the aftermath has been just amazing. So honored to have you here. And you even just got a tour of all the buildings. I mean, so we could start there if you want to tell us what you thought of it. It was unbelievable. You know, when Charlie passed, it was, I mean, the moment, it's still surreal now. It's still hard to just really believe that this has actually happened. But to see the overwhelming support that's flooded into this place from all over the country, you know, I, for the last 12 years, really, it's just felt like a country that's been, become more and more divided.

And, you know, through this event, you're seeing people come together at, at levels that's just really hard to imagine. So, you know, one of my favorite verses is all things work together for good, and I just can't think of a situation where that rings more true than this one. Yeah, and I think a lot of has been made of some of the bad behavior that we've seen, some of the worst of humanity, if you will. But I'm always the voice telling people, I'm like, yeah, we should call it out because it's disgusting. It's gross. But like the amount of positive has so overwhelmed the negative.

And when you're in our vantage point, when you see it from here and you see the mail room, where we have, I don't know if they showed you that. Yeah, we saw it. With just the endless amount of gifts and letters and paintings and trinkets and that came in from all over the country to honor Charlie and to pay their respects to Erica. You know, I always say we don't grieve the way the world grieves. And I miss Charlie every day. He's the first thing I think about when I wake up.

He's the last thing I think about before I go to bed. I've literally only been watching Seinfeld because Charlie loves Seinfeld. And it's like, you know, I fall asleep to Seinfeld because it makes me think of Charlie. And I just, you know, last night I was watching Golden Boy. That's a t-shirt with Golden Boy. Charlie used to always like joking about Golden Boy. It's Jerry Seinfeld's favorite t-shirt. I mean, I miss him so much.

But I know that God put him on this planet to do this very remarkable thing. And that is to galvanize the youth, to inspire a new generation, to believe in the American idea, the social compact that this country is made with generations of Americans. And right now, we're looking at a situation where some of that work that Charlie did is being threatened. Economic conditions are rough, especially for younger Americans trying to get a job. The dollar is all over the place. President Trump's doing his best. We're trying to get this investment, foreign investment, other companies investing again in manufacturing.

But there's a lot of headwinds. There's a lot of headwinds, and AI's coming on. So from a economic standpoint, and this was one of Charlie's biggest passions, economically, could you sum up this current moment for us? I mean, I know we're going to get into precious metals. We're going to get into gold. We're going to get into hedging. How do you take care of yourself? But right now in this economic moment, what do you make of this climate?

Yeah. There's a lot that's a lot to try and digest in terms of what's going on right now. And what I would tell people is, you know, up to the. year 2000, we were in a growth-based economy. Interest rates were really high, you know, in the 80s and 90s we sell interest rates climb almost 15, almost 18%. And so you could put money in a savings account and earn a really nice return. Since the year 2000, really, to present, we've seen interest rates practically go to zero, which has de-incentivized people from putting money to these types of accounts where you can accumulate. And so the way that we would invest up to the year 2000

should be a lot different than the way that we're approaching our finances today. We're in a debt-based economy now. And it's extremely problematic because when you hold the reserve currency status, the U.S. dollar is the world reserve currency. That seems to be, that situation seems to be eroding pretty quickly. We went off the petro dollar last year. And what's really compelling to me right now is that, you know, just since COVID in the year 2020,

the dollar's lost about 20, 25% of its value. And that's due to money printing and inflation. And I don't think people really understand the damage that this causes to someone who's trying to save and prepare for retirement. So the only thing that gives the dollar any real value is the faith that the American public puts into it. And really the public, the world, the world, the world puts into it. And so when you have a Fed that seems to believe that money grows on trees, that whenever we have

problems we can just print our problems away away that's a recipe for disaster well and and i want to talk about that because you know i'm just looking at the price of gold here in the last year it's gone up fifteen hundred and twenty six dollars it's gone up 57 percent that's a lot pretty unbelievable that's that's crazy i didn't realize it was that much so if you would have bought gold at let's see here let's just say the a year ago it would have been i think i've got yeah 2654 now you buy gold it's at 4201. Speaks for itself, right? Yeah, I mean, this is exactly, so it's funny because I think gold companies,

sometimes, like, precious metal companies get like a bad rap, like, and by the way, we work with you because you guys are really good at this, and you are good people. That's the key. There's a lot of, there are shysters in the space. You guys are not one of them. That's why we chose you, you chose us. But this is, it goes up 1,500 bucks in a year, 57%.

That's real. like that that that is a hedge against this this easy money is Steve Bannon calls it the lords of easy money that print us into the the weakening of the U.S. dollar you got the BRICS. nations that are weakening the U.S. dollar that are trying to create a sort of bipolar economic world and here you got gold that's holding steady

not only holding steady it's it's growing tremendously and this is the key is that real working people people that are not the economic incumbents, as I call them. Economic incumbents have a lot of assets. They have housing valuations that are going through the roof. They've got 401Ks and stocks and bonds and all of these things. But it's working class people, too, that really get hit and holding the bag here when your inflation hollows out your purchasing power.

And so it's like these are the hedges that real people can access and get through preserve gold that can get into this economy and make sure that they, the policies out of Washington are not bankrupting them. Yeah. I mean, what I would add is, you know, if you're holding a stock, for example, if you located that stock, you've got to go into cash. So really, you're at the mercy of the dollar because the dollar is the root of pretty much every financial instrument that utilize.

You know, gold going up, the way it's gone up, silver performing, the way it's been performing. And we haven't really seen inflation or real market volatility get priced into the financial markets. So the fact that it's moving up the way it is, it's almost as if it's moving up anticipation of what's going to come. I mean, I always tell people, Donald Trump has a responsibility to the overall welfare and health of the economy. Americans have a responsibility to their own finances. And, you know, I think we're going to see that the policies that he's

putting in place are going to create that they can't create pain, especially short term. Disruption. Disruption. There is going to be economic disruption. If we're going to set the house straight, if we're going to settle accounts, if we're going to set ourselves up for a brighter economic future, there's absolutely going to be disruption. Not only that, there's going to be the AI revolution disruption, right? We're seeing this with new graduates trying to get jobs in the economy. There's going to be disruption. And that's why these conversations are so important when we're talking about what we're going to do next. Yeah, I think the question you should ask yourself is, why has gold and why has silver performed the way it has? And I think if you just go throughout

history, I mean, you can go, really, you can go back to the Great Depression. But every single time we've had a major market crash. In 2000, we had the Techmania.com bubble burst, essentially what happens versus the bond market went sideways. Well, prices plummeted. The dollar sold off, the bond market sold off shortly thereafter as well. Gold and silver prices more than doubled. In 2008, during the housing crisis, same thing.

So when money rotates out of stocks and bonds during a market crash, when it rotates out of cash during periods of inflation, it just needs a place to go. It tends to gravitate towards golden silver first because they are the classic safe haven't investments, and that's what causes prices to go up. So if you're trying to, if you look at the economic climate and you go, you know, over the next two, three, four years, do I believe the market's going to be higher or lower? If the answer is lower, then what can I use to hedge against that downside? You don't put all your eggs in one basket on the other side, but the more you can diversify a portfolio against market risk and take advantage of growth, then the better off you are in the long term, because that's what investment should be. It should be long term.

Absolutely. And long term, I mean, again, this isn't long term, but year to date, I'm looking at gold right now. And it's actually up even more, or silver. I'm looking at silver right now. Silver is actually up more than gold year today. So if you would have bought at the beginning of the year, it would have been, let's see here, $29, $29, something like that. Now it is at $53.46. That's a 75 point, well, now it's going up and down, 4 or 5% increase. Why is silver going up faster than gold? I'm just curious. We're about a minute left in the second. That's a great question. Gold and silver are brother-sister medals. They track each other. So gold's all-time high before this run-up was around $2,000 an ounce. It reached that number in response to the 2008 financial crisis from 2008 to 2011. At the same time, we sell silver go to 50. So now gold being at 4,000, gold's doubled its record high. Silver just hit its record high. So you can easily make the argument that percentage-wise silver will be the better performer. It will continue to go up. I think we're going to see gold, if I,

to guess by the middle of next year, we could see gold at 6,6,600. And if that happens, we can easily see silver, I think, between $75 and $100 an ounce. Wow. We say that again, you think gold could, I mean, obviously, this is not, nobody knows what the future holds, but you were saying you think it's possible to see gold hit what? Six thousand, six, $6,600 an ounce. And this is just not my opinions. We've seen Bank of America, Goldman's ads come out with forecasts. So that would be, I mean, that would be $2,400, $2,400 higher than it is right now. Wow. Okay.

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here in Phoenix when RFK endorsed President Trump we actually produced that at turning point I mean tell us I mean you know when you walk into the space what's what do you feel unbelievably it's a sense of peace calmness

you know I stepped in it was you know initial sadness just thinking about the person that we lost but when I feel the presence in the room, the energy in the room, I feel peace. Yeah, I think Charlie felt that too. He loved being in here. And we found him his big giant Nephilim chair.

Charles was huge. He was like 6'5. And everybody always, the first thing is, you're taller than I realized it. I don't know what they thought he was. But yeah, he was a big, big guy. And so we have this giant chair here. And it brings me peace too sometimes to look at it.

We are here with preserved gold. Daniel Boston. Oh, what is this? This looks like fun stuff. I love... Oh, is that... This is silver, right? The five-ounce silver, America is beautiful.

Five-ounce silver, and it's a quarter. Can I get a zoom in on this? That's a five-ounce silver coin. Five-ounce. They use George Washington is one side of the coin. What's that? George Washington is one side, and then that coin makes up different state parks on the other side.

This would be Oklahoma. Oh, yeah, because there's 2000-love how they did all the 50 states in the quarters. This is great. It's heavy, man. Yeah, it's a beautiful coin. That is awesome. Okay, so listen, if you, so if somebody's out there in that, by the way, I just

want to give a bit of breaking news here, John Fetterman, Senator John Fetterman apparently has fallen and has been rushed to the hospital. He had a ventricular fibrillation flare up that caused him a fall and hit his face, but I'm told that he's in good spirits. He's saying, if you thought my face looked bad before, wait until you see it now. So, actually just, you know, I know that John Federman still votes like a Dem most of the time, and that is what it is. But he's been defending Charlie. He's been defending free speech.

He's been a voice of reason. So I, you know, I'm happy to hear he's doing well. So back to the topic at hand here, though, there's a, you've got this, the precious metals IRA 2025. So is IRA the kind of the way that, is that like the, what you've found is if you, if you've not invest? vested in precious metals, gold and silver and all these things. Is that the best way to kind of get started, do you think? Is that the easiest way? Or what do you recommend?

What's the course of action? I recommend. So there's two different ways you can go about getting started with preserved gold, but it really depends on everyone's unique situation. We really try and take time with the people that we're working with to understand their goals, ask the right questions. So we can understand that situation that make recommendations based on that. The IRA program that we offer allows you to take your existing retirement account,

whether it's an IRA, a 401k, 403B, TSP, any kind of qualified retirement account, you can roll those funds in that account over, completely tax-free, penalty-free, into a new IRA we'd establish for you that can hold physical gold or silver inside the account. So that way, instead of having exposure to stocks, bonds, mutual funds, really paper-based assets, you can have hard physical metals inside the account backing it up. Yeah, I got an email here from Steve, says, please ask how much it costs to sell gold and silver. Is that, is that a, I guess, you know, if you have it, does it cost mixture?

Is there a way to roll it over in a strategic way? Yeah, yeah. So whatever you buy from preserve gold, this is one of the main reasons why our clients love working with us amongst many, but whenever you, when you go to buy gold and silver from us, when it comes time for you to sell or liquidate out of your position, we charge zero fees. Wow. We get people the highest posted price on the market when they go to liquidate. zero fees. Wow, that's great. And other people, I would, I presume he's asking that question

because he's run into other people that maybe do. I mean, there's, there's dealers out there that can charge 10, 20% on the way out. So you invest in $100,000. They're taking $10,000 to $20,000 in the way out. No kidding. We don't do that. We take a, we take a, we take, and that's legal for them to do that. Yeah. I mean, this, this industry, that's something we should probably talk about. Okay, talk about it. There are some bad actors in this industry. I'm obviously not going to mention any names. But the reason why I actually found a preserve goal to begin with was because because, you know, I had been in the industry doing this for over a decade before I started my company, Preserve Gold, and realized there just had to be a better way. I have seen things

from, you know, sales representatives, gold brokers lying about fees being charged, shipping taking six months or longer for metals to be delivered, and, I mean, all kinds of nightmare stories. Preserve Gold was launched with a mission of transparency being at the forefront of everything that we do. So from, you know, disclosing fees to getting product shipped out promptly using the correct security protocols. And I think our reputation really represents. That's what we found. Because of all the, I mean, and I told your team as well, you know, we, our standard in this space is like super, super high. Because we only want to work with people like yourself that do this the right way.

because our audience is everything to us, and we don't want to lead them down a path that's going to, they're going to, I do not want one negative email from any of our sponsors, but especially this category. And you guys, I mean, when we looked at it,

you guys had the best reputation of anybody out there. Yeah, there's a reason for that. You know, everything is in full transparency, full disclosure. We have nothing to hide. There's great.

There's a cost associated with doing business. We've got to keep the lights on, but we want to make sure to people understand what this costs are. And the approach that we take with people that we work with it, It's a no-sales pressure strategy where it's very educational based. We ask questions. We get to know the people that we're working with. It's relationship-oriented.

And then based on that, we can make some recommendations so that people can land in a place where they can make the best decision for themselves. So if you want to do this, go to preservegold.com slash Charlie. We got that right up there, that URL. Check that out. It helps the show, too. But frankly, I mean, precious metals has been through the roof. So please check it out. Thank you.

Daniel Boston, preserve gold. It's been a pleasure. Yeah, thanks for having me, Andrew. Appreciate it. Absolutely. We'll see you guys tomorrow. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.