The Charlie Kirk Show - Charlie at the San Diego Pastors Summit

Episode Date: April 26, 2026

In his speech to the Pastors Summit in San Diego three years ago, Charlie lays out the great divide between pagan thought and Judeo-Christian beliefs, and predicts one of the issues that would prove decisive in turning the tide against the woke plague ahead of the 2024 election: The fanatical desire of predatory adults to give sex changes to children. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You've got to stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a turning point USA college chapter. Go start a turning point you would say high school chapter.

Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade. Most important decision I ever made in my life and I encourage you to do the same. Here I am. Lord, use me. Buckle up, everybody. Here we go.

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In fact, direct quote from Marxist writings, you must engage in the ruthless criticism of all that exists. Said simply, Marxists are trained, and this is what happens when you send kids to college, to deconstruct, to pick apart, to complain against anything that exists. And that includes the natural law and the natural order. you're probably starting to connect some dots.

Like, oh, well, that makes sense. That's why they're always trying to go after why. What is a man and what is a woman? Now, I believe that if the American church spoke more about the first 11 books of Genesis, we'd be in a much better place. I believe that there are eternal answers to so many of our problems in the first 11 books of Genesis that the modern cool kid, the skinny gene church, does not like talking about.

They say, oh, it's allegorical. the word of God. It's the truth. Now, in the first 11 books of Genesis, the distinctions that our entire existence rely upon are set up. I mentioned this briefly yesterday. The distinctions between God and man. The distinctions between holy and profane. The distinctions between man and woman. The distinctions between good and evil. The distinctions between man and nature. The distinctions between God and nature. So let's focus on that one. Every ancient, false pagan religion,

before Judaism, before the Torah and eventually Christianity, God was in nature, not above nature. You worship the river, you worship the sun, you worship the mountain. This idea that God spoke nature into existence was unheard of

in the ancient world. Now, these distinctions are important because that's where we get very basic morality. what the Marxists decided to do is they understood that these distinctions existed, and they said, we must destroy all distinctions. We must iron them out. Now, if you want to get really deep into it, they believe in smoothing out the contradiction so they can create a oneness of the world. Genesis 11, Nimrod wanted to create the city of Babel to create a one-world government. the aim of the Marxists is to get rid of any differences.

Diversity is not the strength of the Marxists. Conformity and elimination of differences is the strength of the Marxists. You must understand it's the exact opposite of what they tell you. And isn't this true? They don't want any dissenting opinion. They don't want any differences or any dialogue. Only uniformity. Conformity.

It's very totalitarian in nature. And so Karl Marx writes basically this idea that there are people in charge of society and we'll call them the bourgeoisie. One, two, three, go after the bourgeoisie. That's not what they say on college campuses. They'll use swear words, right? And the rest of us are the proletariat,

the everyday man, the worker. Now, he came after this mostly through economic lens that this was people owning the factories and people working in the factories, and it's not fair. Now, this was basically him equipping the everyday rank and file with a playbook of how to criticize and how to attack any power structure. So fast forward, a obscure writer from prison in Italy, many of you know him, Antonio Gramsci wrote this whole idea that we Marxists, we can't just have economic struggle, revolution against the factory owners. We need to have cultural struggle.

that what Marx laid out was a rebellion not just against the rich, but a rebellion against anybody in power, including God himself. So what Antonio Gramsci wrote in the letters from prison was that we need to mobilize the masses to go against anybody in charge. So then another obscure thinker by the name of Herbert Marcusa,

the Frankfurt School, takes this idea, comes to America, and comes up with what we now know is post-modernism. If you want to describe where wokeism is, what is the Wuhan Institute of Verology of Wokism? It came from Herbert Marcusa and the Frankfurt School in the 1950s and 60s. He wrote a book called One Dimensional Man, and he had colleagues of Michelle Foucault and Jacques Derrida and disciples to this day by the name of Angela Davis and also Paul Fieri and James Lindsay. He wrote a whole book called The Marxification of Education.

Here's where it comes to your faith, and this is what drives me nuts. when pastors say, Charlie, I don't do politics. Satan is using Marxism as a way to deconstruct God's natural order. Every single day. So some pastors and some churches say, but I don't like talking about these issues. The most fundamental and easiest example that we can give is another distinction.

The distinction between a parent and a child. They do not believe in such distinctions. in Washington at the age of 12 when you go in for a doctor's visit the parent is not allowed into the doctor's visit unless the child requests the parent to come in.

They don't believe that there's any distinction between a parent or a child. In fact, they believe it to be an oppressive, tyrannical type relationship. So if you are to equip an entire generation, entire culture, to ruthlessly criticize all that exists, well then what comes next? San Francisco comes next. There is no next. You know what the only thing is? Is all outright totalitarianism and tyranny? This is one of the great lies of Marxism. Is that they act as if, you know, eventually they'll get rid of all the contradictions.

And I'll summarize this in a way that you'll be able to use with your congregations. But it will always end in tyranny. We have a unique moment when America was found. where the many were able to be in charge of the few. Marxism wants the few to actually be in charge of the many under the guise of the many being in charge of the few. If you're like me and you're tired of random stuff getting thrown into your supplements like artificial colors and sugars, you probably would love to know more about phytonutrition.

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Incredibly important. Do you know the first ever recorded real estate purchase in the history of the world was Abraham buying Hebron? Private property is biblical. The idea of owning property comes directly from the Bible. The idea of the tribe or the commune-commun-owned. everything, that idea has been around for a long time. But the idea that you are a steward of a piece of property, a steward of a certain thing to pass down to future generations, to tithe and

offer, these are biblical principles. Marxism wants to destroy and abolish that. And then finally, because Marx said this is the ultimate totalitarian environment, is the family. And repeatedly, we see, and I believe I mentioned this yesterday, I give so many speeches, I can't remember everything I mentioned. But yesterday I said, in the Ten Commandments, the only one of the Ten Commandments that mentions your nation of promise, honor your mother and father so that you may live long in the land to which you are in. So you're all pastors, so I'm going to get a little geeky with the Hebrew for you, okay? So the word honor is the same word as heavy in the scriptures, the same word to treat heavily. The word curse in Hebrew is the same word as the treat lightly.

So if you were to treat your parents lightly, you are to curse your parents. What is the last part of the Old Testament in the book of Malachi? Talking about cursing your land. The last thing before Matthew begins is talking about cursing your land. What do we learn from Mao's China? What did we learn from Stalin's Russia? If they can destroy the bond between a parent and a child, that is the simplest, most proven way for totalitarian government to come in.

and I'm telling you right now, you as pastors have a historic and biblical mandate to protect parental authority in America today. Never before have we seen the family so under attack from so many directions. And I will say what other pastors are afraid to say. They're trying to turn your kids gay and trans and groom them away from Christianity. And some people say, well, you know, Charlie, that goes too far. Read their literature. read their books. They talk about how they must go after children

because they cannot reproduce, so they must recruit. And if there is not an issue that could unite the American church, I mean, what's happening right now in Chino Valley, and the great Jack Gibbs is fighting this, and in Temecula, oh my goodness, just a couple examples where the Attorney General of California is coming in and suing Chino Valley. You know why? Because Chino Valley, right down the street from here, the school board, which thankfully because of Jack Kibbs and the Chino Hills Calvary Chapel Church, they took over that school board. They have the radical idea, everybody, radical, that if a child wants the transition, the parent gets a phone call.

They're being investigated by the California Attorney General and sued for such a thing. Just for that. And for the uninitiated, the non-Christian audience, they're confused by this. Guess what? You don't get to be confused. You know exactly what's going on here. This is just another manifestation of the invisible war. Because if you can go after the children and destroy that bond, the family is the last line of defense of a free society.

It's the only line of defense. It's the ultimate line of defense, and the church must stand up for this and for parental rights. So when we talk about, you know, if some people say, well, Charlie, I'm not comfortable being political. I think you could give a sermon on Marxism without ever actually being political. It is a dominant ideology in the world today. And by the way, for those you that are worried about losing your 501 status, you're allowed to talk about ideas and ideology and philosophy. And let me just talk about that for a second.

I hear that excuse all the time. All the time. Hilariously, I hear it from excuses who think Jesus is coming next Thursday. And so I say, the IRS wouldn't get back to you for another 18 months, man. So it's like, you're telling me Jesus is coming soon. And your word you're going to lose the 501c3 status. One of those things you don't believe. See, I'm not a pastor, so I can say these things.

God and man, holy and profane, man and woman. So I got asked a great question. had a wonderful roundtable and one of the pastors asked me, Charlie, what is the issue that we should go all in on? And I've been doing this for 11 years. There is one issue that I think we can win on, one issue that is such a flagrant, such an

awful, such a clear, just say, insult to God's design that's going after children and our culture, and it is the pagan state-run religion of transgenderism. And I gave the speech at Awaken Church, I see

Sam here, and I talked about the the fake religions, the fake pagan religions that are running America. There's the earth worshippers. There's the religion of tolerance. There's the religion of being nice. And the one that is, honestly, there's the fake religion of cult of scientism. We could talk about all this if you want. But the one that really gets me is this gender delusion religion. You have on the White House two major trans flags and one American flag.

You have an individual who suffers under the transgender lifestyle. and he, she, takes off their clothes as a stripper at the White House. I mean, the Center for Disease Control, as I mentioned yesterday, says that men who take lactating drugs can chest feed. This is in our textbooks, it's in our curriculum, and it is because of a silent church. If the church was forceful, and if the church was being salt and light, this thing would never have been able to get out of the gate, okay?

But that didn't happen. It is here. So, let me give you a couple pointers on how to handle this issue. there are zero genders and there are two sexes. I'm going to say, well, Charlie, never heard of that before. Gender is a fake, made up word. It's a new age term. As soon as we admit that gender is a thing, we have lost the debate. There is sex, and that is it.

When they introduced gender, they said, well, it's a social construct. It's like your horoscope. And then we all of a sudden played into their hands. do you notice they used to call it transsexual and now they call it transgender? Just like that, we allowed these guys to take over our language. So again, there are zero genders

and there are two sexes. So if you see somebody in your church or they come to you or they say, but Charlie, you know, this is my 22-year-old and, you know, he was the captain of the high school team that I sent him to Berkeley and now she is not what he used to be.

Where's a dress and all that? their truth. That person is wearing a costume of womanhood. No different than a white person wearing blackface. You do not become the other race just because you wear a costume of the other race. You do not become a different thing just because you start dressing like the other thing. And if we even play into this an inch as Christians, we are surrendering that territory to the enemy. Even an inch. Now somebody might say, but Charlie, shouldn't we love on these people? Yes, the best way to love them is to shock them with the truth. And to tell them what everybody else is afraid to tell them is to say that you are not a man or you are not a woman. So stop dressing and acting like one. You've obviously been traumatized. You've obviously been hurt. We'll find you help to be able to talk about that and deal with that. But I refuse as a pastor. I refuse as ahead of a church to be able to sign.

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banner at charliekirk.com. Do you know what we're actually learning from some of these detransitioners? By the way, there's over 30,000 detransitioners now in America. And that list is growing. Just so we're clear, because of the silence of the church, remember, silence itself is evil. Silence is consent. Ten years from now, there will be 250,000 young people regretting,

saying, where was my pastor warning me about this? Where was the local guy warning me about this? And they will be without breasts with hysterectomies, unable to have children, unable to be able to get into meaningful relationships. that number is increasing like you wouldn't believe. There used to be two, gender-affirming care clinics in the West. There are now hundreds.

Hundreds. The pharmaceutical companies look at your children and the children of your church is nothing more than places to make money, to chop off their private parts, administer them irreversible pharmacological agents that we don't even use for rapists anymore to then put them on a series of antidepressants because then they're an annuity for the rest of their life.

For one trans surgery, a pharmaceutical company, will make a million bucks a decade. We're talking about 250,000 of them that we know of coming in the next couple of years. But what we're learning from these detransitioners, one in particular, New Hampshire, a young lady, she comes up and she says, and this video has gone viral, and I'm going to do my best to paraphrase it. She says, I was a young girl, and my parents got divorced, and I started to see videos, and I thought I was trans. And everyone around me was afraid to offend me. So they affirmed me. And they told me I am who I am. It's my truth. Be true to who you are. And not a single person told me that I might be dealing with something else other than go get a hysterectomy. Go to Boston's

children and get irreversible surgery. And she said, here I now, at 26, I can never have kids. I missed puberty because I took puberty blockers. And she said, affirmation ruined my life. You as pastors have a moral and biblical obligation to not affirm evil. Almost every single distinction that we see that has been clearly set up in the Bible, the trans agenda goes after. And the other one is that there is a fear by some churches and some pastors that there's going to be this massive walkout campaign of their church. And I've got to be honest, guys, I say offensive things for a living. It's pretty great. There are worse things than having somebody

just walk out of your church. Revelation 218, the first people in the Lake of Fire guys are the cowards. I'm not saying that's any of you. I'm not even saying that's people you know. But don't allow, I mean, one of my favorite pastors

says, Charlie, I'm doing everything I can to preach it down to a manageable size. And they just keep on coming. And it's actually a paradox. The more you speak the truth, the more the people are going to come in a broken culture. honestly, okay, let's say that you have a church

of 600 and it goes down to 400. Well, then that, maybe you have a healthier fighting force and a remnant. Maybe that. And if I may editorialize for a second, be careful. This is completely off script.

Don't grow your church too fast and borrow too much money. I've seen more churches go in the woke, neutral direction and use the excuse that I have to pay the mortgage. I believe, and look, I grew up in the suburbs of Chicago, I saw the Willow Creekification of the American Church, okay? And I think Bill Heibles was a very gifted Bible teacher. It's too bad that whole thing.

And so I passively went to that church, and I saw the whole thing. And they came up with the model. Pay down as little as you can, borrow as much money. And I'm not saying don't borrow money, guys. I'm not telling you how to run your church. What I'm saying, though, is that there is a theme between some of the weak churches in America. and it's because they're very worried that if they lose 5% of the people coming to their church, they're not going to be able to pay the bank. They're not going to be able to pay the note. So pray on that. Maybe if just one of you hear that message, then it's worth saying.

I just want to just thank you guys for your attention throughout these last couple of days, and I hope it's been blessing you. So we're going to put a slide up here. I'm going to tell you kind of the story here. So it's been a very eventful year at Turning Point USA. our third pastor summit. We ran out of space in Nashville. We ran out of space when we did this last year in Coronado. And honestly, we were debating, like, do we do another one? And the first two were completely underwritten by a couple donors of ours. We said, honestly, let's try to get as much

sponsors as we can. And all of a sudden, we look it around, the response was unbelievable. So we decided to do it. And, you know, these events are expensive to put on. I'm not asking you for money. If you're able to chip in anything at all, pray about it. It would help us a lot. Because, you know, these events run $700,000, $800,000. So it's about $800 a person. If you're not in a position to do that, totally get it. I'm not even saying trying to guilt you and do it, but if you're in a place or your church is able to do it, great.

If not, then that's fine too. So if you're able to chip in anything at all, we would greatly appreciate it. But we decided to go into our general funds that we have for a rainy day fund because I said nothing is more important than what we're doing than assembling pastors and strengthen the church. And I'm glad we did, by the way. One of the most important things we did.

So think about it, pray about it, and we'll end that there. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliecirk.com.