The Charlie Kirk Show - Charlie Was Right Again

Episode Date: November 20, 2025

When Elon and Trump had their public feud last summer, Charlie was the first to predict they would reconcile, and he got the date almost exactly right. The team reacts to Charlie's spot-on prediction and explains how it came out of Charlie's skill as a coalition builder. Tyler Bowyer gives an update on Turning Point Action and the fight to redistrict House seats in Republican states. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yeah, we saw this. We know there's a. a lot going on, but we really wanted to flag this. I think people would like it. Yes. It gets out a lot of what made people love Charlie so much, which was, he was always focused on the future, on building the coalition, on finding the common ground,

on beating the real bad guys, which is the insane communist anti-civilization left that wants to destroy us all. The red-green alliance, which is what he was focused on at the end of his life, and we will remain focused on because it remains the key

threat, I believe, to the future of our civilization. There's many threats, but that is the key one. And of course, the prediction that we are referring to is the reunion, the reuniting of Elon Musk and President Donald Trump, which took place last night, officially, at

a black-tied dinner at the White House that was honoring Mohammed bin Salman. I guess, Red Greenland, Prince. They're not, yeah, so we are our, we had a state visit. Yeah, we had a state visit of the Saudi Crown Prince to their first state visit. And I I think seven years, announcing more investments of Saudi oil money into the United States,

some strategic partnerships there. This is, of course, part of his broader push to also bring peace to the Middle East. But Elon Musk was there because Elon Musk is apparently going to be investing his own AI initiatives in data centers in Saudi Arabia. Don't need to get into all of that. The point is it was the first time Musk was at the White House since he left back in May. So, well, in June 2025 is where the, the feud really took off. And, of course, Elon invested about $300 million into the election of President Trump in 2024. He headed up the Doge Office of Government Efficiency in the White House.

Then they had this bitter public feud in which- Big beautiful bill. He said it was too much spending. He said it was, he basically said it was a dastard. He said Trump would be in the Epstein files. He was saying lots of pretty low-blow stuff. He ended up deleting that one. and he admitted it was probably a bit too far.

And so that was all blowing up. I remember the day it happened, we went live on thought crime. I think it was the normal night for it. But if it wasn't, we may have gone live just because it was so dramatic. And that was June 5th. And during that show, Charlie made this prediction. Let's play clip 241. Donald Trump's in a feud.

Men fight. Big news. Big deal. Get over it. Focus on the policies. Focus on the victories. And they will continue. It's all going to be okay.

Again, I will say right here, you can mark it down by Christmas, maybe before that, there will be like a surprise Elon Musk comes for dinner, comes for dessert at Mar-a-Lago. You know, leaked New York Times, Elon Musk spotted at Mar-a-Lago. I'm just saying. If you nail that one, I guess I'll just be really impressed. I could be wrong. I'm just saying, by Christmas, don't be shocked. Well, here we are.

It's not even. Thanksgiving yet. My favorite part of that is you chiming in. By the way, I barely recognized you. Yeah, yeah, I've got a pretty clean, clean shaven at the time. But I love that you have to chime and be like, if you nail that one, okay. I'll be really impressed. I'm really impressed.

I am really impressed. And another part of it that I think a lot of people have already realized. And you know, you mentioned leaked to New York Times. So this is the article, The New York Times, two days ago. And they say, quote, September appeared to be a turning point in Mr. musk's relationship with mr trump musk said that he had been invited to a high-profile dinner with tech executives hosted by trump he sent one of his aides in his place but then mr musk approached mr trump at the memorial service for charlie kirk they had an animated conversation for several minutes

and yeah we're seeing it there that conversation they had uh that was captured on television mr musk who friends say was very emotionally affected by mr kirk's death posted a picture online of the exchange uh that image of that exchange i believe it got uh i think he said for charlie and i think it got 76 million views 283 right there for charlie yep 76 million so i i just want like that picture i remember i was backstage at the memorial and i somebody showed me a picture of them and i posted it and i said i hope that they're looking at each other saying for charlie about an hour later Musk tweeted that for Charlie. And I can't prove it, but I like to think that Elon saw that tweet and thought, you know what, let's do it.

And it makes my heart happy because I knew, I know, and you know how much this meant to Charlie. Yes. And it's not that they're aligned on everything. It's that it's what Charlie would care about. It's being aligned on the core things. He said there was another bit he did in July when they were still fighting. And he said, I think they're going to realize that they may be disagree on spending. They may disagree. on particulars of immigration policy. And this was, you know, Musk was talking about starting his own party, running third party. And he said, I think Musk will realize that if I just allow Zoron Mamdani or these other radical left-wing lunatics to come back into power, I'm going to not get any of the changes I want

on spending. And I'm still going to get all of their, you know, radically anti-industry, anti-free market, anti-American, anti-white people values. They're all going to come flooding back and we'll destroy this country because of some personal beef that we have. And he really, he nailed that one, that we have to move on from those things. We have to be able to build our alliances, maintain those alliances, even when it's difficult. I want to play another Charlie clip here. Let's do, I think we have, let's do clip 254.

Now, it might seem as if this is irreconcilable between President Trump and Elon Musk. How could they ever come back together after all this back and forth? It's just as nasty as you could imagine. And it seems as if that it's only going to increase. But President Trump has in front of us a rather dramatic and telling track record of being able to reconcile and work with people that were otherwise considered to be sworn enemies of MAGA. he nailed it he nailed it we got a great email here from kevin uh he says this fulfilled prediction by charlie is precisely the reason i said for years that charlie was the true heir to the wisdom of rush limbaugh his favorite radio host yes he was and prayers as you continue

to fight for what charlie was fighting for thank you thank you Kevin and anyone else who has thoughts please email us freedom at charlie we're going to try and get our email uh reading game back on track yesterday we didn't get to as many as we wanted to so today please send email freedom at charley kirk.com you know this all reminds me by the way i have not stopped thinking about helen andrews our interview if you haven't seen it please uh check it out on the podcast uh wherever you get your podcast apple spotify wherever it was a really important conversation i'd love that it was coming from a woman because one of the things she talked about it better it needed to come from a woman we'd have been in trouble but so she writes in this article it was the great

feminization and this is a particular skill set of men now we love you women you guys are truly important. We have a bunch of ladies that work on this team and they are amazing. But this is one of the pieces she wrote in this. And she's talked about how men over time have developed customs and approaches to war. And this reminds me

of Elon and Trump. And Charlie understood this. She says, The point of war is to settle disputes between two tribes, but it only works if peace is restored after the dispute is settled. Men therefore develop methods for reconciling with opponents and learning to live in peace with people they were fighting,

yesterday females even in primate species are slower to reconcile than males this is a guy thing and charlie he genuinely innately understood i think it's because he went through so many of these so many we'd see some of those that were behind the scenes just you'd have the grind the fighting you'd have these like attacks and it'd be a fake out oh no actually we don't want this fight and he saw that and he was you know he told the audience about it yeah and you could tell it was two alphas like, you know, raging against one another. You know, Trump's threatening to hold back subsidies. They might range against each other again. They might. They might. This is, this doesn't have to be forever. But let's, here's the thing. What did Elon said, we should, we must hang together

because if not, we will surely hang alone. We will hang separately. And, and that is, that is absolutely true. We need each other. The movement needs each other. I think there's a purging. I'm going to make my own, uh, prediction here. There's a lot of talking about the infighting on the right, especially in the wake of Charlie's death. We will come back together. There is a purging, there is a flexing, there is a consternation happening, and that is sometimes really healthy. We will come back together.

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a mess in the wake of Charlie's assassination, that there is, we're lacking that leading voice, that guiding light. A lot of people think J.D. Vance could be that, and he's actually at an event this morning with Breitbart that they're doing in D.C., and he's talking about a lot of these things. he's saying hey don't let this distraction get us in the way of understanding who the real enemy is right because if we if the democrats get power again which right now we're on track for that to happen i want everybody to be very clear that we are if you look at all the polling all of this trump's not doing as bad as obama was in his second term that's true or even george w bush

but we are we're at a nadir there's there's a lot of bad vibes out there would you agree Blake. Yeah, it's just that people are, certainly within our own coalition, people are frustrated with the election results we just had. People are, they're worried about the economy. I think some of this is just, it's the stuff that's been continuing for several years and it's not going to be fixed overnight. And there are people frustrated with the courts have blocked a lot of the most ambitious things Trump wants to do. People, a lot of people want there to be more deportations. There's a lot of everyone, people can pick things to be grieved about and one thing that happens when there's a bad vibe as you say is people decide to fixate on whatever they want to be aggrieved about rather than positives and there are positives i think it's always worth reemphasizing to people this is all happening in an environment where we have shut down people crossing the u.s mexico border we had this open wound that a million plus people were pouring over two million maybe pouring over every single year no limit no intention to ever stop it and we stopped it cold practically overnight there used to be that dairy and gap we'd have

people go there and do documentary episodes of the tens of thousands hundreds of thousands of people pouring over into panama from china africa southeast asia like all these places and it's just gone no one's doing it anymore yeah no and this is i i totally agree and we're also rooting out a lot of the visa issues we put a hundred thousand dollar basically fee on h1b's so there we we are making progress. Everybody needs to just remember that. But here's the reason why we want to talk about Elon Musk is because sometimes there's these critical initiating events that happen. And you can look back on them later and you can say that was the moment that we started turning the corner and getting back on track. And I don't think it's a coincidence that this morning, J.D. Vance is also talking about

some of the same things. Keeping the main thing, the main thing and bringing it back to what happened to Charlie is a really important clip, 287. So I think my attitude is let these debates play out. But don't let the debates that we're having internally blind us to the fact that we're up against a radical leftist movement that murdered my friend a couple of months ago and that would throw many people in the Trump administration in prison, not for doing anything illegal, but for not following the far left's agenda. And then, as if we're already not spoiled for good news, I just took this as a personal sign, Blake, because sometimes I call you contrarian Blake. it's true it's why we love you um but then you or hate me

it just depends on the day it there's always love there's always love but sometimes it's like come on blake um cut throw up image 285 it so blake goes hey did you see that homeland security it's a really good one it's really good one and i was like wait so it's not cringe blank he's like yeah it wasn't cringe sometimes i go a little too far but this is a perfect one this is perfect so so this is a tweet that went out from homeland security. I happen to like their Twitter feed. But they say rent is too high. There are tens of millions of criminal illegals in our country. Groceries cost too much. There are tens of millions of criminal illegals in our country. And on and on it goes, women don't feel safe. Traffic is terrible. Health care is too expensive. That's a big one. A very big one. Welfare spending is through the roof. I can't afford a car. I can't afford a house. And it ends with there are tens of millions of criminal illegals in our country. Many problems. A simple answer. And it really is for so many of them.

Healthcare expensive. There's this entire shadow world of millions of people where they get free single-payer healthcare through the system of show up at an emergency room, get treated, blow off any payment attempt, often never give your name. And it's just paid for by taxpayers. And they get, obviously, they blowed up the housing market. They do so many things. And yeah, there's a simple switch.

Have the criminal illegals who have come into your country. go home yep and by the way there's another piece to this where they get all mad at the criminal raids or these illegal alien the raids that are going on l a memphis uh now charlotte north carolina chicago and there's a very simple solution to this democrats if you don't like the raids on the streets cooperate with ice when you pull these people over and you've got them in custody already hand them over when there's a detainer it's as simple as that if you don't want ice raiding your your streets cooperate with them in the safety of your own confines custody listen there's no way around it when it comes to health care people are really frustrated with how much it costs and how to pay for it

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I mean, we hear about Prop 50 in California and the Texas redistricting fight. made a lot of news, but there are other states that are really important. Give us the update. Where do we stand right now? Yeah, Andrew, it's been actually crazy in the background right now because there's a lot of states that are wholly Republican dominant that are not being helpful whatsoever in the fight against Gavin Newsom and what they've done in California. So as a recap for everyone, Gavin Newsom, we know they just passed the prop for redistricting. They're going to take away essentially five plus Republican seats off the table pretty clearly. And the only way that you can combat that is with our big Republican states.

And then a bunch of these other smaller Republican states that can kind of cobble together to help offset this really manipulative hijacking of the electoral system that Gavin Newsom has entered into. And this is all important because remember Gavin is doing this in part because this is helpful to him in looking like the savior for the Democrat Party as he tries to run for president in 2028. So everything's interconnected. It's all possible. Right now, Indiana, who has Republican state senators in districts that Trump won by 20 to 30 points that are pushing back on redistricting to get net two seats. So Indiana, you know, one of the historically most Republican states in the country outside of the sad,

Obama blip that happened in 2008. But that was a, that was a, they swear that was not normal. It really has been one of the most Republican states that we have in the nation really has also a very Republican metropolitan areas.

And there is real justification for a solid through and through red state plan map. If you map it out very fairly, very squarely for that. But because of the way the process that redistricting works on and everybody that's a listener needs to become very familiar with this terminology, majority minority districts.

So what the Democrats have been doing now for many decades is they've been pushing this concept through lawfare of remapping every state around majority minority districts, meaning that they have to, consequently, gerrymandered districts to include, populations that have their large populations in your state of minority communities. This would be Hispanic majority. This is the classic Voting Rights Act. This is the Voting Rights Act argument that's being discussed. We won't probably get into the details of it now, but we will probably start to tear this apart over the next year. But essentially, the big ones in America, obviously, are the Hispanic communities, black communities, and Native American communities in certain areas. Now, Native Americans haven't made up too many, so you haven't seen too many of that. But here in Arizona, you have an argument for one.

You see at the state level a lot. You see the state level. We have it for sure. That's right. That's right. State level, it happens a lot more frequently. But the black community argument, Hispanic community. Now, as Democrats are starting to lose Hispanics, they become much less interested in Hispanic communities.

And this is where it's becoming, well, a lot of Hispanics are actually saying like, yeah, we don't need to do this. We don't need to just encompassing. They use this to cheat to essentially just gerrymander more Democrat voters that just happen to be from those minority. So where is that process at now? Because Texas enacts a new map that was basically going to wipe out all the gains they're going to get in California. But then a judge blocks them. Right. And so that is now, maybe Blake, I don't know, either one of you can answer this. What is the next step in that process? So this just broke this week that a federal signal. So can we throw in the Florida piece real quick? So while this is all going on, Florida stepped in and they're like, no worries, guys. We're going to actually add another. five Republican seats. So they're in the process of this. It gets really risky. Like if you're adding to once you, the thing about gerrymandering that a lot of people don't get is if you stretch it too hard, you're basically making it. So let's say for example, let's say in Texas, you made it. So every single district exactly matched the state's vote in the last presidential

election, just hypothetically. Well, okay, that means, yeah, you want, we won Texas pretty handily. But there are elections where you only win Texas by five points or six. And you can imagine the situation where you would just lose Texas. Like, it's plausible if you get in a really bad wipeout, you could lose Texas. Yeah, like a 2008 Obama type of way. Yeah, 2008 Obama and then like you do really bad in the house or something. And suddenly you'd get to that point where what happens is you win more seats until suddenly you start losing them and then you can lose a lot. Yeah.

So you always have to be careful. Yes. Well, because they're taking, for the viewers at home, the listeners at home, is that you're taking districts that are, 10 to 15 points on average plus for Trump or plus Republican you look at two different ways how many points did Trump win by the last presidential or whoever's the last presidential candidate and then how many more Republican voters do you have the Democrat voters the the real thing that's in the air is in a lot of these states particularly Texas included is you you have a lot more independence now than you ever did before and actually I own a

phone call back to a North Carolinian there's North Carolina's a North Carolina's a good example of this you know historically republican state tons of independent voters so if you start messing with the the districts too much like blake's saying you might end up in a situation where you have a new community of a lot younger people who aren't registering republican they're more independent that are harder to target and then they're harder to turn out yeah and florida is a good example actually if you florida right now feels very red to us it's moved red over time but Plus 1 million. 2012, it voted Democrat in a presidential election.

The first time Ron DeSantis ran, he beat Andrew Gillum by... 30,000... ...extremely narrow. Think about how much history ended up changing on those 30,000 whatever votes. This is why ballot chasing matters. That's why ballot chasing matters, for sure. Because you win by a little bit, you can swing a state for decades. What did he win on his second election?

It was like almost 2 million votes. He wanted massive plans. landslide and yeah huge landslide yeah and so you were asking what's next in this texas case so yeah so this panel said texas is is illegal racial gerrymandering whatever now it's a sort of special one usually when you have these court cases uh in the federal level it would go district circuit supreme with these specific election law related cases they have an accelerated process so the appeal is directly to the supreme court i've talked to some people familiar with the supreme court who've been clerks and such, they think the Supreme Court would probably side with us, but it's a matter

of speed because your filing deadlines in Texas, for example, are coming up here in just a couple weeks. So you would need the Supreme Court to weigh in very quickly, or they might just be stuck with their old house map for matters of practicality, which that's a lot of what this is about. This Texas house map was because they specifically wanted it for this midterm cycle. And if it only kicks in in 2028 well then you know you're only two years away from a census anyway yeah throw up this image by the way uh this is a 291 this is the states considering congressional registric and you can look on my computer here if you want tyler but so we've got california they pass prop 50 how many do you approximate in how many seats are they going to get there right now the estimation is five so five

they're going to get five how many would texas get if we get this in time for the midterms the plan was five five and florida five is So we would be, if we get Texas corrected, we're going to be net five versus California. Texas and Florida together would be plus 10. Indiana's plus two. Ohio as well, right? It's not on this map. So Ohio is

probably not not going to change. But I've heard of it they can get two more seats. Yeah, there's an argument for it that they can. Going back to Blake's point, the question is should they? Especially with Vivek running even. or maybe slightly behind

because they're not in a safe of a spot. Yeah, fair enough. What's the story with Missouri? They already passed new maps? Yeah, I don't have the total update. I'll touch our base with our Missouri people. We can do a follow-up this next week on Missouri and how that's going.

And then I saw that at a Maryland House map there. I know that that's a Democrat state, of course. I think they usually have one Republican seat, so it would probably be an attempt to zero that one out. Yeah, it's one. Yeah. So then there's Nebraska and Kansas. So Kansas could redraw their maps.

Nebraska could get the winner-take-all kind of energy and maybe... Which we have no faith in. Well, there's still one shot. Nebraska could redraw, but as is, there's still three Republicans right now, right? I don't think we'd get new seats. It would just be securing it. They're worried about Don Bacon. Yeah, it would jerrymander out.

It's basically assumed at this point that, well, well, it's not a red seat. So it's a plus, like, three or four dem seat that Don Bacon just says one because he's a moderate. But Don Bacon is retiring. And so the fear is that they're going to lose. If they don't redistrict, they're going to lose that seat. So zero in on Indiana now. Indiana, there is a push to, because they had a chance to redistrict, they failed. One minute left.

Yeah. So right now, the state senate, I mean, they still can do it. But there's essentially holdouts of about, it depends on the day, but we have about five or six state senators that are holding out. the White House came out really strong the president came out really strong like hey we're going to find people to challenge these people and there's good conservatives in indiana across the state i mean we're talking in each of these districts you're going to we we need the audience to start to get to know these people because we need to replace them so we're talking we're not talking districts for trump won by five or six we're talking districts that trump won by 30 or 40 points and and so the president

it feels very strongly that we can find the right people. Turning point action will help them. We'll help the president and identify some of these people and get the word out. All right. So we need to know how to help and what to do next. Well, Indiana can still fix this. They could still get the redistricting done, avoid all of that conflict, and just get it over with. So if you are an Indiana legislator that stood in the way of the redistricting fight, there's still time to save your political future. This does not have to go this way. But we got to save the, we got to save the Republic. It's too important. This is Lane Schoenberger, Chief Investment Officer and founding partner of Y. Refi. It has been

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we can start to engage you obviously if you can't travel you can do a lot remotely from there we're starting to work on putting bodies in more states more full-time staff and hiring full-time staff even in what we call our secondary and tertiary states so that we can help manage coalitions. So if you go to coalitions.com, we own coalitions.com. That's coalitions.com. Coalitions.com. You can sign up and be part of an activist organization that is kind of like our chapter model for adults. So that's moms coalition, farmers or ranchers, our Black Americans Coalition, our Healthy Americans Coalition. So if you're Maha, our Healthy Americans Coalition is great. If you're more senior, our classic Americans,

So we're bringing together, you know, our more senior activists together as well. Do we ever get them all together? Yeah. So we do events in the coalition of coalitions. So our coalitions, that's part of what they do, is they spend all the entire election cycle getting together, building relationships. So then once we're ready to go, they deploy and go out and help us chase ballots and keep target precincts. Question from Sonny, Tyler. She says several weeks ago, Steve Bannon was talking about Georgia and how it could pick up five seats.

Is that true? So this is part of the problem with majority minority districts. So again, Georgia's at the epicenter of that problem, which is that you have the law fair that's been used in the electoral process to give majority minority in this case and in Georgia black districts. So keep this in mind that with the law fair, so if the Trump administration is able to undo that, then the answer to that question is yes. you could actually game back. Well, I'll add some caution because right now, Georgia is nine Republicans, five Democrats, 14 total seats. So if you were to gerrymander every single Democrat out, you'd be, like I said,

you'd basically be looking at the state average. Well, the idea, Blake, we lost Georgia in 2020. Yeah, the idea would. We barely won it in 2040. So you'd be where you'd be very close to that risk point of they flip all 14 seats. That's right. So even if you redistricted, you know, you got rid of majority minority district. which you could make the opposite argument

that the Democrats are gerrymandering some of these districts, that you shouldn't have five Democrat seats there. It should be more like three or four. Yeah, you could get it to, I think you could get it to four. You could get to resafely or four. One or two would be great. Arizona is a similar situation

where we have like a pretty conservative state for the Republican side. If we get 11 congressional seats here this next election cycle, you can make the argument that Arizona is a nine-two seat, but it's the safer, more realistic, like 8-3. It's 8-3. Yeah.

Kristen says, hi, guys, I'm in Indiana resident. I'm wondering if there's anything I can do to help with the redistricting push. Yeah, absolutely. We actually have links that are going out. We had a link that was up for Turning Point Action. It's tpaction.com slash, I believe, hang on here. I'll pull the link in just one second. All right, while you get that, James says,

you guys are forgetting Spanberger has already said she will redistrict Virginia to go to 10 blue seats and one red seat. Do we know what that's about? So that is a proposal. I think they've even claimed they can do it. Now, I believe if they don't 100% rig their courts, which they could, it is difficult to redistrict in Virginia because I think they went to a nonpartisan system by constitutional amendment and they'd have to vote like two times in a row and hold a referendum. They have to do a lot if they were going to do it by this next election. But they're going to try. They are very involved. inventive about these things. I do have a non- redistricting question that I want to get to while you pull up those links, Tyler. This is from Kelly. It's a fair question because I know there's confusion about it. So hi, guys, listening to the show today about the reunion between Musk and Trump and wondering why TPSA is not doing the same with Tim Pool. That is an interesting question. I understand because Tim has said that he's not coming to Amfest. We actually were in the process of making sure that we could do it from a production standpoint. I was literally, we were about to give him, like the green light. We want to do this on the day that he posted a video saying he wasn't coming. So we're trying to work with him to get that fixed because we had every intention of wanting to do that and moving forward. You know, he's got a very busy schedule. I think he was hoping for the answer sooner than we were able to give it to him. But we certainly want him to be there. We've had a three-year run with him at Amfest. It's been very successful. So we want to do

it. And we're working on seeing if it was not a calculated snub. It was not a calculated snub. Well said. It was not intended to be any type of snub. What happened was as soon as Charlie was assassinated, I'm sure everybody can understand this, tickets sold out at Amfest, and everybody in the conservative movement said, I want to speak at Amfest. And so we got overbooked even from a speaker's standpoint very, very rapidly. And so in order to do Tim's show, which happens at a very specific time every day on a Friday, we would have had to sort of, we just had to kind of figure how we were going to do it. And actually we had a good plan.

I think Tim would be down with the plan. so hopefully we can get it done and we all support you i i had text to you i was like we got to get timpool there and then yeah like that morning and i said i'm working on it yeah i mean obviously we've had a lot going on and i i want to say this too is we've had a lot going on with everybody uh we have more people that were actually telling no to for america fest because literally there's going to be like 50 000 people there plus everybody wants to speak not that many not that many we're going to probably have a hundred I'll do the Charlie Kirk think we'll probably

have a hundred thousand people you're going to freak out our events too if you say that no but one million people will be in and around in and around maybe yeah okay here's another one Indiana redistricting Trump threatened those Republicans in Indiana against redistricting that if they don't

change their vote they will get primary Governor Mike Braun is doing an excellent job he has the Dems in Indianapolis to contend with but he's staying the course that's from Carol good for you Carol oh census William, Bill says any updates on running a new census? I was literally thinking about that.

Well, so the difficulty with a new census is you can't just snap your fingers and do a census. It's actually like a, I think it costs $20 billion to do the census. You have to hire a bunch of people. So unfortunately, you would need Congress to actually vote to do it. So it's one of many things. I guess you could do it if we, for example, if we abolish the filibuster and rammed it through, then maybe. on many of these stories and news you can trust. Go to charliekirk.com.