The Charlie Kirk Show - Charlie's Club America Dream, One School At a Time

Episode Date: December 12, 2025

Charlie said he wanted 30,000 Club America chapters in the nation's high schools — quite the dream, since America only has 27,000 high schools in the first place! Turning Point's Nick Cocca joins to announce a major step toward Charlie's goal. Tyler Bowyer talks about the war plan against Indiana Republicans who voted in favor of more Democrat House seats. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We've got a big crew here. We have Michael McCoy, Mikey McCoy. We'll figure out his name eventually. One of those names right across from me. And right next to me, we have, we have Joe Bob. He's got a few titles. We were debating what to refer to him as, director of Joe Bob. President of Joe Bob

High Chancellor of Joe Bob So I do actually have Joe Bob in written form trademarked Really? Yes the US patent trademark office recognizes me

as the official owner of the Joe Bob trademark So I will have to charge you royalty fees For using the name I know you're inducing me But that isn't going to come On your next expense report

Dang it All right But we have a lot of fun things to talk about First of all We saw that Amfest promo again We are one week out one weekend. If you want to buy a ticket, you can't. It is totally sold out. But tune in live. TBSA.com. You'll have the vice president. You'll have a lot of other speakers. You can tune in live. You can get in line for tickets next year. They go on sale pretty early. You can get yourself hyped up. And there will be tons of clips, tons of episodes. It'll all be extremely exciting. I've been getting emails that are asking what should I do at Amfest. And my advice is just meet people. This is about grassroots energy. Make friends because that's how you have engagement in the next election.

people you know you go out you organize and do things together yeah a few other housekeeping items stop in the name of god remains on sale uh it is sold out in various venues but it'll be replaced soon enough that's the great thing about uh capitalism when you run out of something they make more of it and it's a lovely book getting great reviews from people reading it uh all across the country i like it one real quick thing on that i thought it was so interesting when that when it was kind of made aware stopping the name of God kind of the idea of honoring the Sabbath I went back and looked at a couple text

messages with me and Mikey where I sent him videos and was like hey can I send this along to Charlie and he said yeah but he's on Sabbath and this is two years ago that he's been doing this that he was doing it and it was very like prominent in his life not necessarily known to the entire

world but like even then kind of in private chats it's like yeah you can not going to see it for another day but yeah he called it his secret weapon it was like he and he would always say too you know the punishment for missing the sabbath is you miss the sabbath because it was actually a gift that was just waiting for you to receive it and by not doing it by not honoring it you were missing out on the gift it was a punishment in and of itself but it was the secret weapon to charlie in six days he worked his butt off and then the seventh day he rested and you could you could see and he would talk about this all the time how he would be even more of exhausted if he didn't get a full Sabbath. But he looked forward to that day every single, every week.

All right. Well, so another Charlie thing besides that book. He always said he wanted to put a Turning Point USA chapter and later a Club America chapter in 30,000 high schools across the US, which shows two things. One, Charlie was incredibly ambitious.

And two, we really needed to increase America's birth rate because there are only 27,000 high schools in America. So we got to open 3,000 more. Well, that's why he kept pushing that. That's why I said have more kids. He had a bunch of more kids. And he wanted to build new towns because new towns would need new high schools. That was clearly his agenda item.

So he wanted a lot more called America chapters. So we have a very exciting announcement related to that. So we have Turning Point USA's Enterprise Director, I believe, is his title. We have Nick Koka. Are you there, Nick? Yes, gentlemen, I am here. Thank you for having me. Yes, all right.

Well, let's just cut right to it. What's the big announcement? Well, I'm here in Nashville, Tennessee, in the state. state's capital. We just had a big announcement with Governor Bill Lee and Senator Marsha Blackburn, a partnership to put a Club America chapter in every single high school in the state of Tennessee. Wow. How many states does that bring us to, Nick, where states have made that announcement? Well, Mikey, it all started with the amazing former superintendent, Ryan Walters in Oklahoma, putting out a declaration of support for Club America chapters. From there, we went into Florida

with Governor DeSantis. And then we just wrapped up on Monday our announcement with Governor Greg Abbott in the state of Texas. Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick, as you know, committed a million dollars to TPSA and Club America. And so we just finished our partnership there. And today, Tennessee makes number three or number four? That's amazing. I'm already just checking now. You've got over 3,000 high schools in Texas.

You have about 2,500 high schools in Florida. I'm looking here. 1,800 public high schools. schools in Tennessee. I think these are all public. So you'd have about 10, boost that by about 10 to 15 percent to get privates. Oklahoma's probably another few hundred to a thousand. And it's, we're actually getting well on our way there to 30,000. We just need the birth rate part. Yeah, we need the birth rate. Are we on pace still? I think we were doing 50 new chapters a day across the U.S.,

both between college and high school. That does, the amount of inquiries are through the roof. the amount of students joining. Nick, do you know the number of how many students have attended a Club America meeting or TPSA College Chapter meeting since 9-10? How many people have come? Yes. Since Charlie's assassination, we have seen chapter numbers for high schools spike to about 50, 60 per meeting. I was at the first meeting of a high school chapter in Alabama, we were standing room only in a classroom. More than 50 students came in. to hear about their new club america chapter wow that's amazing that's amazing and we we want these to be vehicles for a lot of different things it can be for discussing philosophical issues for

getting engaged at the grassroots level for just normal community involvement running a bible study it's really it runs the gamut what you can do with this if you're an engaged student and if you have any good stories email us freedom at charlie kirk we love hearing stories about the success of our chapters, things they've been able to do. We love sharing those. Nick, one of the things, well, one of the videos that came up in my feed the other day was Charlie talking about how little his high school did on the founding and the founders and the brilliance of the founding of the country. How much do you think these Club America chapters will kind of infiltrate into the actual curriculum itself? Because these are clubs on campus. But I do think

there's going to be some more intrinsic value into the actual education. I think teachers would probably be more likely to be able to talk about the founding a little bit more, even beyond what the curriculum might already be. That's right, Joe, Bob. We are a future leaders club. Club America serves to empower those patriotic leaders of tomorrow. So they're learning about the Constitution. They're learning how to have a respectful debate and dialogue on the issues of today. They're networking with community leaders.

That could be anyone from their local mayor. to the governor of their state. So they're making connections with these folks. They're going to make their career. And they're bringing in speakers like Riley Gaines, who is at our event today for this announcement, to learn how to stand up for girls, for girls sports, and a wide range of issues.

So I think through the leadership of our students, they're going to change the culture on their high school campus. There are already Turning Point alums who have become members of Congress. I don't think Cal America is not old enough. They cannot legally run for Congress yet. But we have crazy stories of business leaders coming to us and just begging us to get access to the student pool that we have across the U.S., both in high school and college. But there's stories of students in high school

graduating and immediately getting a high-paying job. That's the amazing thing. Yeah. Nick, you said it. We're a future leaders club. Future leaders. You can learn running a organization in your high school for real, not the fake ones that people found so they can look good on a college application, way too much of that. But if it's a real organization that's trying to do real things in your community, you learn skills. You look at, that's what Charlie was so amazing at. Charlie didn't need a college degree. He had, he learned on the job of how to organize, how to be a leader, and he became this stupendous figure. Every single person running a

club America chapter can be a future Charlie Kirk. That's what we want. We want everyone to be Charlie Kirk in the future. 30 seconds, Nick, are we looking at, are there other states that of expressed interest, we might be able to be hearing from soon, hopefully? There certainly are. I do want to say, I hope that we can see more come from states like Montana and Idaho and Iowa and maybe even my home state of Ohio. But we're going to be working with anyone and everyone we can at the state level to simply say, hey, we have the students back and we support their right to free speech and

to form a club. That's amazing. Thank you so much, Nick. We've got to get to those 30,000. We're going to get to work. Look, I know there are a lot of choices when it comes to who you choose for your cell phone service. There are new ones popping up all the time. But the truth is, there's only one that boldly stands in the gap for every American that believes that freedom is worth fighting for.

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I thought he was only a nighttime vampire. I think they might be referring to the show Turning Point tonight, which airs at 10 p.m. Eastern on Real America's voices which I usually do I do come out during the day it's not often it's rare so you're a vampire but like you it's like the twilight vampires who just kind of

sparkle in the daylight yeah more tan but yeah definitely also a vampire he does go to bed around 3 a.m. and wake up around noon every day that is really no but I should probably that's what a lot of comedians do that when I worked at Fox basically I didn't I didn't like to do things before I went to work

and it was an evening show so I was just rolling work at 1 p.m. So I would get up really late and then staff really late. Now, the question is, did you use that as an excuse just to sleep in later? Like, was that your primary goal? And then you just got a job that allowed you to be a lazy? No. On the topic of Club America, I thought I had a really good idea.

Turns out it's not that great of an idea. Obviously, we want to have more kids there for bolster more high schools, which would allow us to get to that 30,000 number. But also, what if we acquired high schools? So I thought, how many high schools does Greenland have? Two. So, yeah, that's the problem. I thought it was a good idea.

Greenland has four high schools. Oh, they're going to. Upper secondary schools in the entire country. So. That's not going to work. It does help. It does help. It's about one thousandth of the additional high schools.

Okay, so are you against making progress on this school, Blake? Is that what I'm hearing? That's right. You are kind of calling out. You know, we do have a lot of Greenlanders. coming to Amfest. We have a whole group of them. Really? So that's like 1% of the population if we get five or something. There's like 15 of them coming.

Speaking of, we'll give away two Amfest tickets on the show today. If you email us, Freedom at Charlie Kirk.com, and you have interest in coming. I know we're sold out, but let's give out two on the show today. What do we think, Blake? You have a good idea. I think that's great. Let's do it. Okay, you're going to have to run this lottery because I don't know how those work. We're going to do it.

I have several friends who have now. not necessarily come out of the woodwork but in the last couple weeks be like hey how do we get tickets to Amfest tell me to email Freedom at Charlie Kirk that is literally the only way you can do it because I kind of text back or say back laughing like you can't

it has been sold out and sold out is probably even an understatement because I think capacity limits are probably a concern you know Elon Musk is this true that he quote tweeted you he did wow that was really what did you what did you quote to

you about. Well, I was talking about some of the percentages. Do we have that clip of the percentages? This is such a good clip. I might be able to pull it for later on in the show, but I effectively was outlining some of the lower percentages of Somali immigrants

in other countries, in other Western countries. All right, we actually have that. We have this. Oh, we do 337. When people criticize Somali foreigners in Western countries, here are a few things to keep in mind. In Norway, 27% of Somali-born households do not rely mainly on government assistance.

In Sweden, 36% of Somali-born adults are either employed or in education. In Denmark, 31% of Somali immigrants and their descendants are not on public benefits. These are just a couple things to remember during the discussion of whether or not we should let more third-worlders in the United States. I hope this helps. So Elon Musk, the world's richest man, he replied to that. He kind of, he weighed it in his head. And he replied, put up 336, he replied, wow. Well, I'm just so grateful that he understood the sarcasm of it.

Yes. Because I think I got, I got, the overwhelming majority of people understood, oh, these are very low numbers. And maybe it's not advantageous to let a bunch of third worlders into Western countries. It was the music for me. we've already got a few entries in the Amfest two-ticket lottery so keep emailing at charliekirk.com oh that the odds are pretty good

the odds are great and you're paying attention and you're able to get here oh wow this is very good odds that's that's fantastic there I mean to go back to that fun little internet video there was a little bit of concern of the sarcasm not reaching everybody entirely there were a bunch of there were not a bunch maybe like five or six comments that go wait

a minute, these numbers are terrible. What are you talking? Why are, why is this lib trying to push his ideology on me? And I, I kind of said that. But this is why we need Club America, because among other things you can learn through Club of America is how to make good arguments to be America first, to be

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Very excited about these Amfest tickets. We'll choose one before probably at the end of the hour, maybe. End at the hour. We'll see. But one of those people who asked, Jessica says she would love two tickets to Amfest, but she also said something that is very important. She wanted us to shout out that she's planning an event with TP action in Indiana because she says two of the traitor state senators in her county

didn't vote for a very important bill yesterday. We've talked about this a lot on the show. Yep. Indiana, we've got President Trump has been whipping Republicans across the country. Redo your maps. Get more Republicans elected to Congress. This is important. for executing the agenda I got elected on.

Indiana voted for Trump by about 20 points. Yep. They voted for him in all three elections. The base seems to like this, but the Indiana senators do not. No. And so they voted on it yesterday. There are 40 Republican-aligned senators in the state. They needed 25, and they got 19.

21 of them failed us. So we're going to talk about this with Tyler Boyer, who is joining us long distance. Are you there, Tyler? It's up, guys. How are we doing? Well, we're not doing great right now. These Indiana guys failed us, didn't they? Oh, man. Yesterday was a dark day for Indiana.

Probably one of the worst days of the most embarrassing days Indiana's had since it voted for Obama in the first election. And you can see why you have some slippage in the state because you're surrounded by really terrible Republicans who make really terrible decisions. The bill that was being produced was a pretty straightforward bill. It was to offset the manipulation schemes that are being run by Democrats nationwide in states that are far less deep blue. There are hijacking congressional seats.

And in Indiana, Indiana is one of the unique states that kind of made a mistake last redistricting. and they gave two seats to Democrats that many argued were not really justified. Indiana is one of the deepest, reddest states in the country, and there are many arguments to be made for a 9-0 Republican map. And so naturally the president's team said, hey, you know, now is the time to go back and redistrict and look at this thing and get us a 9-0 map instead of a 7-2 Republican 7-1. Democrat 2 map that currently exists because we need you to step up.

And so they produced the bill, the grassroots, the entire Republican Party across the country and across Indiana supports this. All of the polling shows, 70, 80% of Republicans support this. It's a no-brainer. And yesterday was the time to shine for the Senate Democrats or Senate Republicans. And they showed up and they needed 25 votes, as you mentioned, Blake, or 26 votes to pass it. and only 19 voted for it, 21 voted against it.

All right, I want to get Joe Bob and Mikey in here, but very quick, because Charlie would do this. We need some just direct accountability. Let's throw up 326. And if you're a Hoosier, pay attention to this, because these might be your senators. These are the Republicans who did not vote for this new district. We're just going to go through them. We have Senators Eric Bassler. We have Veneta Becker.

We have Mike Boeachek. We have Roderick Bray, Brian Buchanan, Jim Buck, Ed Charbonneau, Brett Clark, Mike Kreider, Spencer Deary, Dan Dernulke, Blake, ooh, letting me down on the blakes. Sue Glick, Greg Good, Travis Holdman, Gene Lysing, Ryan Mishler, Rick Niemeier, Linda Rogers, Kyle Walker, and Greg Walker. I apologize if I missed any of those names, but if you'd voted with us, we wouldn't be reading them you did pretty good blake and there's a couple of people to really point out here that are in deep deep red like we're talking 20 to 30 point trump districts a couple of them senator durnal or spelled dernolk with the sea at the end uh dan durnal was one of those individuals great good uh who is a person that has has uh who works currently for

U.S. Senator, Senator Ryan Mishler was actually in Florida. He spent so much time outside of the state that he actually had to, he missed a couple of the votes. It missed a lot. It misses a lot actually in the state in the end because he spends most of his time in the state of Florida instead of being there voting. Linder Rogers actually is in

our TPSA Faith Pastors District that he lives in in Indiana. So, I mean, you've got a couple of people here that this isn't one of those things, too, because there's a handful of people here that are in, you could argue, swing districts or fairly Republican districts, but a vast majority of these individuals are in districts that are deeply, deeply conservative. And it won't be difficult to challenge and get them out of office. So we've actually posted jobs already yesterday.

The moment that they voted, Turning Point Action posted five jobs yesterday on our website. website, tpaction.com slash careers. We're hiring up people to actually help recruit and hold these guys accountable because their election is on May 5th. The primary election for most of these individuals is on May 5th where we're going to be hopefully getting many of these people out office. Tyler, I think if we're going to zoom out 30,000 feet here and look at kind of the primary causes as to why some of these squishy Republicans don't want to. side with their constituents but also the president is some of these people have been in office for 30 years in the indiana state legislature they don't have term limits there and so they're

concerned of well what if i lose my seat that i've kept for 30 years uh in your opinion would having kind of term limits in this instance maybe get some of those more squishy people to go hey you know i'm out anyway i might as well do what the do what the people want yeah i mean there's different reasons why people are motivated. Sometimes it's, you've got like really creepy insider type stuff where there's some kind of lobbyist or some kind of local corporation that's keeping somebody in that's funded their life like all throughout. So they're not really beholden to the people or the president or anyone else. They're beholden to these very specific special interests that are super and hyperlocal. And that's why you see most of these guys in most of these states

kind of go against what you would because you look at this situation right Joe Bobby you go how is the U.S. President, the President of the United States, the Vice President of the United States more in tune with what the grassroots and what the people of Indiana want than their own state senator that lives around the corner from them. And it's truly mind-numbing but when you start to look introspectively like we're talking about here and you start to discover oh well there's one or two key lobbyists that have been funding their way of life. You know, their state dinners, they're special events that they get to do, you know, the things that keep them warm and cuddly. Sometimes it's land developers. Sometimes it's, again, different interests. There's

hospital lobbies. There's education lobbies. There's all sorts of, each of these people typically have one or two of those that make them tick. And that's who they respond to you. One guy got up yesterday and actually talked about this, you know, this is how mind, mind blowing it is. He talked about the pharmaceutical lobby, and that's the reason why he was voting no. Well, you know, that very company that he had brought up had been benefited most greatly by the president of the United States and the work that he had done on behalf and with bringing back a ton of business and a ton of interest for the United States, particularly in the pharmaceuticals area. And that's just how mind-blowingly dumb some of these state senators are. And they don't care. They have no interest at all

in getting it right. They just want to. to try to run over their own people and benefit their own pockets and their own boats. Mike, you travel a lot with Charlie, so you were with him, I think, when he'd meet a lot of the, you know, like, for example, when he went to Nebraska and he had to lobby these people, do you have any insight on what's going on with these people? Is it just that they're very local and how they view everything? I just think they're very weak people in general. I'm going to mark these, the terrible 21, very shameful, shame on them. Okay, send that's true. That's true to Trump, I guess.

Terrible 21. That's good. Shame. No, but in all seriousness, traveling with Charlie, you see all these people, even Nebraska when we were trying to get that electoral vote there in Omaha. They're just weak, and they think they know more about the world because the world is in need of their very small votes. Because their world is their state house, their little rivalries, their little grievances,

or they're mad. Trump didn't, you know, he bashed them on this specific thing. That's Trump get used to it. Yeah. But they're very stubborn. And because that is their world, they can, they refuse to think outside of the box or to think bigger than their small jurisdiction that they're in or be a team player or a coalition builder. But Tyler, you see this all the time. Like you see this at Turning Point Action. There's so many state senators. There's so many congressmen. There's so many people like this that just refuse to think outside of the jurisdiction of their own mind and local community or. what they care about most it's hard to see yeah keep in mind too a lot of these people are influenced unfortunately by the the mind uh uh control schemes of the former pence relationship so you know yeah so remember we knew this was going to play a factor i mean mike pence is looking his wounds after getting kicked to the curb by maga and by the president by everybody because of the way that he acted after

the 2020 election and many of these people kind of had this this mental thing where they thought that Mike Pence was going to be president someday and now they're kind of you know kind of butt hurt over this whole thing of you know well I'm not going to ever help the president ever again because you know because Mike Pence isn't going to be president someday make a bad joke they're being Pence wise and pound foolish I had to say it president Trump walked into a catch 22 when taking office. Do nothing in America would be staring at a ticking debt bomb, the kind of crisis that could cripple our future. Instead, he's taken action with strong policies to slow the train and buy us some time. But the effects of past administration's spending are still working through

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it's your term to help protect yours. We're talking all about Indiana and the great disappointment. I was wondering where you're going to go with that. You said the great disappointment. That makes sense. Yeah, I disappointed you with my rhetoric, just like they disappointed us with their votes. We have a good email. We have an email from Jason in Indiana.

He says, I am in a big union here, the local 150. He says the leadership of my union was against, but I was not. I contacted, I believe he means Governor Braun in favor. He says, they are rhinos who want them. the country club they want the power they want the money they don't like the maga movement but this is too important the country is at stake sad day amen jason what i've really tried to say here is i think some people just didn't like that president trump picked this fight that he asked they they want it you know we have this tradition you redistrict at every decade and you don't

mess with it in the middle and you don't maximize it you tend to leave a few seats for each party and Trump, his nature is, he's going to go for the maximum advantage. And some people didn't like that. And okay, you didn't like that. Too bad, that fight happened. California's already redone their map. Maryland redid their map. You have to play ball now, or you're deserting the cause.

Well, and yeah, if you want the policy that you want passed, you have to win seats. And if other states are taking away those seats, what other option is there to make sure that you get those seats back? Exactly. And we have a razor-thin-house. majority. If you don't have the House after the midterms, you still have a lot of things your administration can do, but you're weaker. You can't pass an immigration reform. You can't pass ICE expansion. You can't control what's getting investigated by the House. You could get impeachment one, impeachment two, impeachment 10. That's what's at stake here for a candidate they voted

for overwhelmingly. We need to hold accountable these Republicans. And I know it stinks. It's sort of annoying that we are spending money fighting against other Republicans, but there's just this element where you said you play ball or we're going to primary you you do have to primary them now or your threats don't hold water yeah and this is the problem right that exists is that these guys were so selfish that what was said to them was very clear which is like hey we're going to be successful at primary in you if you do not help us in this battle against gavin newsome if i mean gavin newsome is on the pathway right now to being the nominee for 2028. And if Indiana state senators won't step up to challenge the guy who we're going to all be

running against in 2028, I mean, they just have no place within this party. And that's not speaking from Trump. That's not speaking from J.D. Vance. That's not speaking from turning point. That's speaking from the grassroots that, you know, vast majority of people agree with that sentiment that are within the Republican Party. So our job now has to be to expend resources to follow through with what the majority, the vast majority of people want is to get rid of these people. Now, what that means is that resources that otherwise would have been spent to help defend or take ground in Congress in other states now has to be expended in deep red Indiana to hold our own people accountable. So we're having to fight not only the Democrats in other states and swing states, which we're doing

in Arizona, Nevada, New Hampshire, and other places, we now have to fight our own deep state establishment in Indiana. So you're having to fight a two-front battle at this point. And unfortunately, that is the way that it is. But if they just worked together with people, if they would have just voted yes, yesterday, all those resources could have gone into helping the rest of the country, helping lay the foundation to win in 2028.

Ryan asks if they could revote on this in Indiana. I believe technically they could any time. The governor could call the legislature back together and they could do it. I doubt they will unless they feel strongly that they have the votes to flip it. So the main way you revote on this is you get better senators and they've greatly disappointed us this time, but you could potentially get a better roster for 28, for 2030 and beyond. Yeah, primary elections are May 5th in Indiana. And so there's only a handful of months left at this point with individuals who will be stepping into the pocket to run against these individuals.

and then for the general public to become educated enough to vote them out. Obviously, it's not, you're never 100%. It's probably going to be a combination effort between now in 2026 and then 2028 as well. But, yeah, I mean, the likelihood with this current legislature in Indiana of getting anything done that's going to help the president is basically they're telling you it's a zero. They're not interested in helping the president. Kathy, a lifetime Indiana Republican, says, I am furious our senator, didn't get this through she says the problem is no one will run against them

I jokingly said I should run as a retired teacher greatly disappointed one if you feel tempted to run Kathy don't let that just die you're a retired teacher maybe you do have you might have potential as a candidate but Tyler she says no one's going to run against them

I doubt that's not that's not true yeah there's we already have pretty much as full slate of people who are good people who want to run against these individuals many of whom serve on the House side currently. So remember, there's a House and there's a Senate. There's some good candidates that already exist on the House side

who are willing to step up and run against these senators. And again, we've been in these situations before here in Arizona. We ran after Arizona state senators voted for Obamacare and Medicaid expansion way back in the day. We went to work against millions of dollars to remove people from office and all of them were removed from office almost immediately. So I do have a, I do have a belief that a core amount of people in Indiana will do the right thing and get together and vote on their normal primary day to get rid of these people. It just, again, it just sucks that

you have to spend time and money and resources as outside organizations as the president's team instead of focusing on the places that we need to win in order to keep Congress. Teller, I would probably say, and pardon me for being the ever-optimist, obviously this is not good, but if I were to find a silver lining here, the more that TP action is successful at primaring, a bunch of these squishy Republicans, I feel like the more the message is received elsewhere. This is not going to be the only time stuff like this happens around the country, but seeing how successful turning point action has been, that's going to reverberate for election cycles to come. and I would hope that sooner or later the squishy Republicans get the message,

oh, this is actually going to be a bigger problem for me if we don't do what the people want. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.