The Charlie Kirk Show - Charlie’s Q&A at the 2023 Educator’s Summit

Episode Date: October 3, 2026

What should teachers do when their schools push an agenda they disagree with? What books belong in the classroom and what books should be kept far away? Charlie tackles those questions and more at the 2023 Educator's Summit, and explores the breakdown of public knowledge as standards shifted from “trust the science” to “trust the scientists.” Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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we'd have the change the American flag for the rainbow flag. Yeah. Right? My question to you is, you know, as a Christian person, someone to do good, do you come in there and then, do you wait? What will be the answer for that? What do we do when we see things going on wrong?

Just make it pass. So that's my question. So you went to a conference and they replaced the American flag with the rainbow flag? Yeah. Okay. Can I ask where you teach? Is that?

Look, I'm a Montessori teacher. I think it's a beautiful system, but we're taking, I think, by the wrong mentality. Yeah, okay. So I can't quite, I'm going to stop short of giving you specific advice, because I probably want you to still have a job, right? So I, but I would prayerfully consider how to navigate that. I mean, they're not going to stop, right? I get in trouble for saying this, but from people I don't respect, so I'm going to say it because I respect all of you. There is an all-out agenda to groom kids in an LGBT agenda. These people are groomers, okay? And they don't like it when you say that,

but why on earth do you need a flag that celebrates people's sexual activity to children? That's what it is, period. I don't think that would go over very well if you say that, but I'm just giving you my honest stuff. Let me tell you something more broadly as a Christian thing, right? I love the Old Testament, as you may have to tell. I spent a lot of time in Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus Numbers in Deuteronomy.

I think it's, thank you. It's really forgotten. Jesus loved the Old Testament too, regardless of what your skinny G. Pastor might tell you. Jesus quoted Deuteronomy more than any other book. So do the founding fathers. They had that in common. Someone said the Talmud? Oh, Psalms more than Deuteronomy? Okay. I got to correct John MacArthur then. So then the Torah, the first five books of Moses, were written as a refutation of paganism. It's at war with paganism.

We're living through outright paganism right now. I use the word secular, and I have to stop using that word because it's actually not true. There is no such thing as a secular society. You're going to have some form of belief. So you might not have Christian belief, but when you study Leviticus 1, 2, and 3,

and they have all these very complex rituals, you're like, oh, that doesn't apply to us, right? Like how you kill an animal and how you, and then all of a sudden you read all the rules of the woke, and you're like, they just take biblical practices and reappropriate it through whatever new lens. Human beings, as we are made by God, need attachment to something.

We need symbols. We need flags. We need songs. We need something that we can say that we're part of. And the LGBTQ mafia, they take, that flag and it has a religious attachment to it for some people. And I mean, I say this, and I love saying it, pride is a sin and why we have a whole month dedicated to a sin is very strange to me and doesn't make any sense. Well, it does if you study it. But that there, whether it be the earth worship or the religion of tolerance, these are all just repurposed

old river civilization pagan beliefs that is nothing new. It's the same spiritual battles that re-manifest themselves. And in some ways, it is polytheism versus monotheism. And one of the great dangers of polytheism is if there's multiple gods and there's multiple moralities. If there's one God, there's only one morality. Every founding father was an ethical monotheist, every single one. An argument that needs to be made and kids need to learn is the Declaration of Independence was the clearest document ever written for ethical monotheism in the history of the world. And by the way, God has mentioned four times in the Declaration of Independence. And in fact, the last paragraph of the Declaration of Independence is literally a prayer. We appeal to the Supreme Judge of the World. That's a prayer. That's how

they used to pray in the 1770s. And so to answer, I know there's a lot there, but is Montessori Christian? or used to be or is or used to be, yeah. I can't speak much more to that. I mean, we're here to support you and pray for you, but I know me. I would personally not be able to be part of an organization that raised the pride flag at all. I personally would find somewhere else to spend my time.

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That's pound 250 and say Charlie Kirk. Or go to chapter.com slash Kirk today. What books are you recommending these days? Yeah. So I prefer books that are future focused like 1984 and Brave New World. Yeah, you guys got the joke. You guys are an educated bunch.

So yeah. So a couple books I'd love to share with you guys. I love our podcast audience. They are the most brutally honest people on the planet. I recommend in 1984 like a year and a half ago. I posted a podcast and I got this screeching letter in the mail because I didn't do the proper disclaimers that there was a sex scene in there. So if you're going to teach 1984, yes, there is an adult scene there.

You could skip over it. It's actually not important to the story. So just want to let you know. It is unbelievably important, though, I think, to teach 1984, okay? I say this is somebody who has read hundreds of books on the topic of politics and dystopianism. He hits it perfectly. However, there's an equally as good book, Brave New World by Albus Huxley. Now, that's X-rated, okay?

That one is even worse than 84, okay? When your kids are mature enough, or if you can think you can teach it in a way, people talk about Orwellian. They don't talk about Huxleyan. Albus Huxley was actually a contemporary of George Orwell, and he talked about totalitarianism in a different. way. He said, what would happen if all sexual privacy and norms go away? If everybody belonged to everybody. Basically, talk about widespread orgies. He also talks about in the book something called

Soma, a perfectly designed pharmaceutical that anybody could take at any time and have a pleasurable disconnection from reality. Now, we would know nothing about that in today's time, right? Far off concept about taking a pill or a substance that can make us not attached with reality. It is so spot on because what he talks about is what if you were to distill it, 1984 with Orwell is here's the danger of mass government surveillance and how privacy and freedom are linked together. Orwell also talked about why truth matters and this dynamic between power and truth

and kind of how they have attention. If you were to go to Huxley, though, in Brave New World, he says what happens if there is no family and do tyrants benefit if people are able to get pleasure whenever they want? And he actually argues that bad people are able to stay in power longer if you have no ability to control your carnal impulses. That's not an argument made very often. So that's a whole book called Brave New World.

And the whole first chapter, by the way, is what would happen if you could actually artificially create human beings? yesterday scientists exclaim they've created the first ever human embryo without an egg or a sperm out is huxley 1947 or 48 i think he published i'm not a second 51 predicted that that would happen in his in a lifetime he was a little bit behind the earth literally so it's very prophetic um okay other books i love someone who has actually had this book out in the lobby i saw it by vachal mengel waldi it's unbelievably good the book that built your world it's an excellent book written by an indian American who's amazing and it talks about the Bible's significance in our culture, in our society.

Yeah, boy, what other books would be really important to share? Oh yeah, anything by C.S. Lewis. Thank you for reminding me. Yeah. So Abolition of Man, which is like my favorite education book, super short, easy, and Pete Heggsett's Battle for the American mind. I'm a huge C.S. Lewis fan. I think C.S. Lewis is one of the most underrated apologists of the last hundred years, and quite honestly, I think he's under-celebrated in Christian circles. I know that might sound like quite a statement, but considering, I think, the weight and the accomplishment of his work, and quite honestly, the spirit-filled prophecy, I think C.S. Lewis should be held at a very, very high celebratory standard in Protestant evangelical circles. If you read Abolition of Man, he saw the entire problem of Western education and before anybody else.

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And 30 years. And I taught intellectual history, worldviews. I'm also a historian of science. And so one of the frustrations I've had is that it seems to me, I want to know what you think about this. Besides the classics, what about the scientific revolution done within a Christian context? You know, Copernicus, Brigh, Kepler, Galilei, and especially, bacon. Your thoughts on the scientific

revolution as a good as the start of modern fair evidence and logic thinking but also what people are afraid of since it's science, oh it's science but it's in a Christian context

so I'd be interesting your thoughts and one other thing, animal farm Oh animal yeah that Orwell's second greatest work Great question, sir, thank you. So I'm going to do this as quick as I can. So modern science, as we know it, was actually a Christian phenomenon. So before Christians, there were really no scientific breakthroughs.

Why would that be? There were a couple discoveries here or there. Because if you believe that there is a creator who designed the world of intentionality and you go into the world to discover it because there's purpose behind it, then that gives you a reason to. know and to understand. Now, sir, I prefer Sir Isaac Newton. He wrote more about Isaiah biblical prophecy than even Sir Francis Braykin had some problems, including the cover of his book, I always mispronation, the great instronation, instronation, where it actually shows two Roman

pillars and a boat going right through it as if he's saying we're trying to pierce antiquity into modernity. But your point is really important. So science, we as Christian should own, but it's totally different than what we're living through, because the Germans who have a tendency to really mess things up, okay? When you get a bunch of German intellectuals in a room, run, okay? The Germans in the 1800s, they had a totally different approach to science, where Christian scientists in the 1600s and 1700s had humility and understanding of the hierarchy of nature. There is a God and I am not him. They sought to know, understand, and comprehend. and the most important word that scientists do not have in their vocabulary to wonder.

To wonder. Scientists who came up with the scientific method were in awe and wonder of the complexity, the harmony, the design of our universe, from physics to biology, they were saying, wow, that is amazing. Then the Germans come along, those pesky little Germans, right? And they had a totally different approach. Part of it was Hegel, and they drew from Rousseau. They said, well, instead of understanding, why don't we seek to change nature to fit our image?

Why don't we try to exert power over the natural order? And you then saw this totally change with, you saw Woodrow Wilson talk about in politics, where he said we should have, the founding fathers had a Newtonian view of politics, but we should have a Darwinian view of politics. I am not an expert on this, but I could play toe to toe with most people on it. Darwin is trash, okay? And you should have the courage to say that out loud and read Doubting Darwin. It's an excellent book by secular intellectuals that just take Darwin to the woodshed for his guessing and his fake propositions.

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is the great tension because many of you say, wow, there's so much in science that I am in wonder or in awe or respect of. But the German historicist view is, why wouldn't we try to exert our own power over humanity. And you saw this during COVID, didn't you? And this is why when you have no wisdom, what are you supposed to do with all these scientific breakthroughs? With no wisdom, they can't answer the question, should we lock down schools? With no wisdom, they can't answer the question, should we put masks on kids? Because they have no basis to be able to determine good versus evil and no compass, no lens to answer those deeper questions. So, Instead, they're not even talking about trust the science, right?

Force, equal, mass, times, acceleration, object, rest, stay at rest. They care more about trusting the scientists. And I think a big Christian movement needs to be to reclaim science, away from the secularists who do not. They look at nature, not in awe and wonder. They look at nature with contempt and for revenge. They do not see the order of the logos and the cosmos and say, there must be a creator. They see it and say, I could have done it better. And that is the divide

in science in America today. All right. Thank you. I do see my friend here. Is that you, Chris, from Dream City? Hey, Chris. We have a great friend partner in Phoenix, by the way. If any of you guys are there, a Dream City Christian, just wanted to shout Chris out. I thought that was you, man. Good to see you. So I'll take the last question before I get yanked off stage completely, and because I have to actually run to another event. Yes. I'll try to make it quick. So first, I just want to thank you. I two years ago, resigned my position as a professor of nursing and department chair to homeschool our girls. Oh, praise God.

That's a good. Best decision ever on so many fronts here with me today. And they actually, part of me homeschooling them was my husband and I said, you've got to find something extracurricular to do. And so they started a turning point activism hub in our county. Praise God. They've done amazing with it. They just got back from W.Y.

Young women's, thank you. Did they enjoy it? They loved it. I watched most of it online. when they got home, I was like, oh, and so on, so when they said this part, and I was just amazing. So thank you. Thank you. It's such a positive influence on them and so many other of our youth. Second, how soon are you going to expand Turning Point Academy, so maybe there's some more career opportunities? We're in growth mode, right, Hutz?

I'm not so, I'm a little frustrated with health care these days. I mean, well, that's the flawed approach of science now, right? I mean, it's, we are expanding. We'd like to I love the chat with you. And having events like this means a lot. I do want to mention something that there's this massive homeschooling revolution happening, and I think it's one of the most positive developments in an ever negative new cycle. Isn't it? The amount of parents that want to take back control, so thank you for saying that.

I'll close with this. You guys are going to hear from some amazing speakers. Please ask questions. You know, we want you to be part of Turning Point Academy. If we can give you resources, if we can give you training, can give you prayer and support. Here's our crazy vision. And we have a tendency of pulling them off because somebody laughed when I said, we're going

to have thousands of young ladies a couple years ago. I said, he'll never do that. And you'll, oh, we'll have thousands of students. He'll never do that. I really believe that there can be a counter to these massive teachers' conferences that are out there that are done by the secular unions. I'm sure you've seen them where they're pushing CRT and pushing DEI. and so our vision one day would be to have 3,000, 4,000 teachers,

but this is where you guys are going to come in handy. If we bless you these next couple days and you find this to be valuable, please get more teachers with you to come next time and bring them alone. Because this is going to be a word of mouth type revolution. We're going to keep getting the word out. But imagine 3,000, 4,000, Hutz told me that this room directly touches 35,000 kids. Is that not amazing? 35,000 kids. So imagine if we get to 2,000 or 3,000, and you're going to be such an important

parts of that. Please keep turning point in your prayers. We're working really hard. I believe that, you know, we're in a really special time and moment. I'm honored to be fighting alongside of all of you and be encouraged. What you are doing is the most important thing to happen right now in the nation. And we're here to help you and support you. So God bless you guys. Thank you so much. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust. to charliekirk.com.