The Charlie Kirk Show - Christians Under Assault In Korea
Episode Date: January 6, 2026One of the last people Charlie met in his life was South Korean pastor Son Hyun-bo. Now, Pastor Son is imprisoned by South Korea’s government for supposed political advocacy crimes. Pastor Son&r...squo;s two sons, Chance and Young-Kwang, came to AmericaFest to raise awareness for their father’s case, and joined Blake and Mikey for an Exclusives interview. The brothers discuss their father’s resistance to Covid lockdowns, how feminism and moral cowardice have infested many Korean churches, Korea’s disastrously low birthrate, and more. Join a petition for Pastor Son’s release at https://faith-freedom.com/call-for-pastor-sons-release-from-jail Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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All right. So for those who didn't see our show yesterday, these are the two sons of Pastor Son,
who is a pastor that Charlie met while he was in Korea. That was the last international
trip he took. He met with him. And just a very short time later, I think literally one or two days,
correct? He was two days. He was arrested by Korean authorities for his, the alleged that his
political activities amounted to criminal behavior. And there's been a lot of threats like that
against Christian pastors in South Korea. For those who don't know, South Korea actually is a
quite Christian country. It has one of the highest numbers of Christian believers in Asia, especially
East Asia. And so we've been following that story and we wanted to have them on again.
Yeah, I'll also add, we were backstage when, I think it was my dad, he brought Pastor Sone over and he said, you know, he's been speaking up.
They're arresting pastors.
He might get arrested.
And Charlie and I kind of looked at each other and we're like, surely not.
Like, we hear about that in the U.S.
Like all these guys.
There's a lot of guys in the U.S.
We'll say, like, I'm being persecuted.
I'll take that risk of getting arrested and it never actually happens.
Yeah, so we're like, no.
Like, for what?
He's like, oh, talking about politics from the pulpit.
during an off election season, like breaking, you can go into that.
But we're like, no, no way.
And Charlie goes, okay, I'll tell you what.
It gives me the phone.
He's like, take a picture.
And as I take the picture, Charlie goes, I took that photo because if and when you get
arrested, I'm going to post it everywhere and blast it on social media to make sure I get
you out of prison.
And so the reason we're doing this podcast and the reason why all of us have been so just
invested in the story is because Charlie was literally personally invested in the story.
And so if you guys could tell us exactly why he was arrested, and then also just kind of
that story, it was so great meeting you guys backstage at that event.
Before I start off with my father's story, it was an honor to meet Mikey and Charlie Kirk
in the backstage.
I was there about Mikey when Pastor Robb reached out to Charlie and Mikey introducing my
father, I didn't not know that my father would be arrested two days after because not a lot of
Christians and also even the family members, we didn't know that he would be arrested because
the arrest warrant, we read the whole 49 pages of that and it was absurd because the mainly
it was politically, he was violating the political neutrality from the pulpit. But when we go
back to COVID lockdown. My father was the only megachurch pastor that didn't surrender worship.
And it was to a point where the church was literally locked down. And they put ropes around
the church. Police went to the church and forcibly. The government officials did that. And we still
worshiped outside in freezing temperature. And ever since then, my father has been the symbol of
Christian conservatism in Korea. And he has been.
the biggest threat to the leftist government because he would be so vocal,
he would speak out just like how Pastor Wobb has been doing as well during COVID lockdown as well.
Yeah, I mean, my wife's family's here too, and they have a similar story from their grandfather,
but also them having been persecuted in the Soviet Union and Joseph von derango.
He has an amazing story.
He's still alive.
He has a great book called KGB's Most Wanted.
But they have such a similar story, and this is actually how they've,
met my dad is during in the Soviet Union he was running one of the biggest underground church
networks and he was arrested for it and put in the gulag and then he got out did it again and was
arrested again and so they came to America and they saw that my dad was facing you know
hundreds of thousands of dollars and fines in possible jail time and had to go to court and
get a legal team and our congregants were getting fined just simply for worshiping during
And they're like, wait, this is really scary.
This reminds us what we came from in the Soviet Union.
And so now they're seeing that in your dad, and we're all seeing that.
And so this is a warning sign.
This is Korea, but this could also come to America.
Exactly.
That's why we're here.
And is this something you ever thought you would have to deal with with your dad?
You never thought your dad would have to get arrested, surely.
So ever since COVID lockdown, again, my father, so six lawsuits out of 16 he's facing is from lockdown.
and yeah, it's absurd
for just simply worshiping
not following the guideline
and we still didn't know that
even though he was going through 16 lawsuits
might we didn't even imagine
we couldn't imagine that my father
would actually be imprisoned
and there's that's because
so to give you a little bit of context
what's going on in Christian community right now
is in Korea
10 million Christians out of 50 million
are Christians
However, the misconcept and misleading idea of separation between the church and state
has been implemented among Christians even.
So actually, we've invited Pastor Robb multiple times going back three, four years ago,
and he has awakened a lot of Christians in Korea and giving us encouragement
and told us to be courageous, just like how Bible tells us.
And that's been basically moving to Christian movement in Korea as well.
Yeah, Blake, you and I talked with Charlie a ton about the low birth rate in Korea.
It's the lowest in the world.
That's what Charlie spoke about at the event.
What is it?
I think it's the lowest in the world.
It's about 0.7 per.
So it means on average, the rate is such that the average woman in Korea would have 0.7 children by the time she's finished.
Yeah. And so just to put that into perspective, point seven, the extinction rate of Korea
at that rate is more. A hundred grandparents will have about 35, 36 kids who will have 12
grandchildren. And so the extinction rate is four times that of COVID-19. And your dad is facing
fines and jail time and needs currently in prison for what he did during COVID-19 when your entire
entire country shut down everything for something that doesn't even have the same extinction rate
as their current birth rate.
Exactly.
And they're not even doing anything to combat the birth rate right now.
Yeah.
They say they are, they aren't really.
Yeah, it's not going, it's not improving soul.
Yeah, do the pastors talk about that?
I guess it was so interesting to me when I was, I was in Seoul for about a week.
And I just felt like I didn't see children at all.
I think I saw one toddler.
It was in a McDonald's.
And they had squeaky shoes that made a rubber ducky sound every time they took a step.
And that was about it.
Very Korean.
And so I guess, yeah, I know that's not on the topic of getting arrested.
But what do pastors say about that?
Is there an awareness of, like, do they say our country is going to go extinct if we don't do what every generation prior to us did pretty much automatically?
Yeah, so the very law my father has been arrested for and in prison for is election law violation.
It's because my father criticized a political candidate for pushing LGBT agenda into schools
and even church not being able to preach about what's simple and what's not.
And also a candidate that promised to appoint 30% of the government of positions for sector of minorities.
And as a pastor, my father had to say something about that.
And because of that, he was being too political.
And because of risk of flight, my father has been imprisoned.
But my father has been serving the same community, same area for the last 33 years, without even taking a sabbatical.
And risk of flight is just an absurd reason.
Yeah, and I mean, the church is the only one that's bringing the message to have more children than you can afford.
The church is the only one that's providing a community to support families, even when they can't afford cost of living.
and to find jobs in korea the church is the one that's actually helping this existential birth
rate that's going to eviscerate your country in this ancient civilization that you guys have
and it's really sad to see that the government instead of partnering with that
is turning on it and saying instead of partnering with them let's jail the pastors
hire all the people that can't have kids because they're gay and then that's what you're saying he's
They wanted to hire 30% of the government workforce as sexual minorities, so you're referring to gay people.
Blake, correct me, if I'm wrong.
I mean, that would lower the gay rate in our government.
Yeah, that would lower the gay rate.
Yeah, it's sad to see.
Yeah.
So tell me about your story.
How do you fit in?
One problem in South Korea is, for instance, young Christian women, women, they do not want to have baby, actually.
It's ridiculous.
That's weird.
The Bible says they should.
Yes, but there's no Christian worldview, actually, in South Korea churches and among Christians.
So that's the problem of South Korea, and that results in the, I think, imprisonment of my father, finally.
And during COVID-19, there are a lot of megachurch in South Korea.
You know, maybe the biggest church is in South Korea, full gospel church.
Yeah, in Seoul.
In Seoul.
It's the biggest in the world.
Yeah, biggest in the world.
But pastors think, like, there are 70% conservative people,
but there are 30% Democrats in the church.
So they gave up to speak up about birthright or that kind of thing.
Because it would make a lot of people uncomfortable,
even although it was one third of the Christian population.
Are you guys married?
My brother's married.
Do you have kids?
Yeah, two kids.
Oh, nice. He's breaking the 0.7 rate.
He is single-handedly tripling the country's birth rate.
Yes, yeah.
And I want to have much more.
Oh, I love it.
Many, many more.
And once I get married, I should get married soon.
Yes.
Something I need to learn from Mikey as well.
I'm, you know, many, many, much older than he is, but much respect for you, man.
Oh, thank you.
I get married young.
It's all Charlie is what it is.
So what is the best way to get your dad out of prison right now?
And how long is his sentence?
So, which is unprecedented, the prosecutors asked for one-year imprisonment.
And this is absurd because when you look at the legal precedents for the actual law violation,
even the ones that have banned for the office, they have only gotten fine.
So it's not much of a, you know, criminal thing that, you know, you would get in prison for.
But prosecutors asking for one-year imprisonment,
is absurd, and it could be up to one year, but so as sons, we personally want my father to be
released because they're going after the church, church members, assistant pastors, and police
accessing my family's telecommunication logs multiple times for investigation, and they could
add more charges to my father's case so they can lock him up again.
But long-term-wise, we need not only South Koreans, but American and also Christians in the world, to raise voices to secure religious freedom and freedom of religious education.
And I believe that that is what's incessual in looking at this case and know that this will come to your door someday.
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How many pastors like your dad are imprisoned in Korea right now?
None, because my father is the most vocal one, and they are setting an example right now.
Got it.
There's no other ones prior to him, though, that have been released.
No.
So in May, my father's sacred church and our home were rated, which is also unprecedented.
And in July, Yeudu-Dohue's gospel church, which is the biggest church again,
like you said, Mikey, has been rated.
And the most influential pastor, Dr. Billy Kim, his broadcasting company, has been rated.
He was the interpreter for Billy Green Crusade in Korea.
And so they have rated the most vocal one, my father, biggest church, and the most influential.
Yeah, you know, actually, this really pisses me off because it was at that event in Korea
that Yoido full gospel church,
the pastor was going to speak
at that buildup Korea event
and they had like 35 pastors
that were signed up to come
and all these donors
that had pledged funds for the event
and then two days prior
they found out Charlie was coming
and Americans were coming
and the government reached out to these people
and threatened them.
And so Yoido Full Gospel
pulls out the biggest church in the world pulls out of this event and all of the pastors cancel
and only three showed up and of the three that showed up only one decided and promised to meet with
Charlie and that was your dad and he's paying the consequences of that and on top of that the donors
were targeted they pulled all their funds I it makes me furious at your government one but two
it also makes me really upset at the pastors who aren't willing to say,
I don't care if I go to jail.
Like Charlie, these people declined a meeting with Charlie,
and he gave his entire life.
Everything that he had to offer, he sacrificed, quite literally, to the point of death.
And these pastors can't even be brave enough to go to a meeting
because they're afraid of losing their congregation and their paycheck and their comfortability.
And so, honestly, they need to probably be ashamed of themselves and use this as an opportunity to repent and stand up.
And for your dad, we need to use this as an opportunity to blast this message as far as it can go.
And to the people that are watching this, too, this is, Charlie was heavily invested in your dad's story.
He took that picture because he wanted to get your dad out of prison.
And he didn't even know he was in prison yet.
and so whatever it is we want to help but the more your story can be out there the better
what is your dad facing in prison on a day-to-day basis to share a little bit more so the first
three weeks the prisoners there would have access to canteen where they can buy
underwear and blankets and extra etc but every four days when they would have the
access to canteen, the prosecutors and police, they called my father in for questioning.
So he would have worn, he wore the, he wore the underwears that the previous inmate
from that cell would be wearing.
So when I was imagining that, you know, my father, he's coming from a very, you know,
the bottom, you know, poor life, but hygiene is one of, you know, one of things that he really
heard about but him going through that and many men you know binding him binding my father in
ropes things like that and delaying the legal process have been very hard for my family but
I know God has allowed this time and this environment for a reason so yeah and he's in a
cell that's only a five meter square so very small by himself and yeah very cold he
He has, there is a barely heating system there.
So they have to put warm water in a PET bottle,
and he has to, you know, put that in between the arms
to keep himself a little warmer and sleep through that.
So a lot of prayers needed.
So is this a big news story in Korea,
or how much does tension does it get in the wider society?
Yeah, so a lot of Christians are raising their voices,
and we are furious.
not only us, but just like how America has been doing under Biden administration, the current regime
has taken over media, especially the legacy media and state-controlled media as well, education
and church as well, silencing pastors. So not enough of coverage are getting caught. Do you want
to add something? And Korea legacy media, they are talking about my father as far right,
right and that one before yeah and personally personally we are receiving
receiving a lot of messages from mega church pastors of pastors and lots of pastors from
south korea but they are not speaking up speaking out publicly they're hesitant yes
personally we are getting lots of support supporting message yeah yeah
wow do you get yeah i'm just i'm just thinking of like the gospel of
Matthew, the whited sepulchres, you know, righteous on the outside, but like rotten within.
It's hugely upsetting. You're a pastor, and you sympathize in private, but you won't say anything
publicly. What is the point of being a pastor? Why do you even exist?
Yeah, there are a lot of elders and pastors in Korea that have been reaching out to us and also,
you know, messaging us. But what they say is, you know, there are 40% or 30% that are voting for
the Democrats. So we can't. We're not able to speak God for your father. So we've been praying
for you, but not publicly that we can do, that we are not able to do anything. Yeah.
Yeah. Well, for you guys, have you faced any backlash criticism? Has your family been
targeted at all? Your children, your wife, what have you guys faced? And also, do you get,
Do you have people receive your message better here in America or in Korea?
A lot better in America because I feel like this is really sad and in a way funny
because there are a lot of Christians supporting my family and my father as well and
sacred church.
But I feel like Americans are speaking out even louder than Koreans and Christians in Korea.
Yeah.
And, yeah.
Actually, lots of South Koreans, they are threatened by current government, so I can understand
why they are hesitant to supporting us, to support us publicly.
And we are actually being mocked a lot on social media, and, you know, news articles
saying my father is far-as, far-right extremist, and also when Charlie visited to attend the event,
the legacy media and the state control media
framed Charlie as the far right
extremist. And what I even said on social media is
he's the one who has been welcoming debate
and free speech. So even if the Democrats want to
say things against Charlie or us, it's okay
because as long as you have logic, which they don't
have a lot of times, you know, they've been like that. And
ever since COVID lockdown, our
my father, the sacred church, our family has been mocked, and we've been threatened, of course,
but we're getting used to it. And thank God, we have been blocking a lot of the noises.
Good. Yeah. Yeah, rejoice in your sufferings. But I'm so sorry you guys are having to go through
this. And just know that we're invested in the story because Charlie Lee was invested in the story.
I even remember we were walking up to the convention center, and this reporter ran up to him.
Do you remember this flick?
I don't, unfortunately.
And she was like, Charlie, what do you have to say about, you know, President Trump saying that Korea needs to not arrest pastors?
And he was like, just don't arrest pastors.
It's not that difficult.
And it's like, it really is that simple.
And like, everybody's like, no, you cannot talk to the media.
You can't talk.
And Charlie is like, I left him with one sentence.
And, like, that's all they deserve.
They deserve one sentence.
Like, you guys are so ridiculous.
Stop arresting pastors.
And this is a place where we should have leverage.
There are 30,000 U.S. troops in Korea.
Yes.
We spend billions of dollars to secure that country's independence from the north, from China.
And I feel it would be reasonable for us to say, you know, we have our trade disputes or whatever.
But I think it's reasonable to say if we're going to have 30,000 troops there.
Yeah.
Don't arrest pastors.
Well, I don't even think, you guys love MacArthur.
Of course.
deeply respected.
That's where they built, I think, the monument when they were memorializing Charlie after what happened.
I think they did.
We're at that statue as an inch on.
Incheon.
And your dad's church is in Busan?
In Busan, yes.
Okay, got it.
So we stopped.
Charlie wanted to see the MacArthur statue.
But you talked to any Korean there, and there's a deep sense of gratitude for America.
And so, like, this is where Americans can come in.
and leverage that gratitude that Koreans have because it only goes so far.
You start arresting pastors and you start betraying the values that connect us.
I don't really foresee us being friends, neighbors, or allies.
And also, we have 30,000 troops there.
And the least you guys could do.
One thing I found very moving I went to, they have a museum and memorial to the Korean War,
and they have, much like our Vietnam Memorial has all the names of the soldiers who died in Vietnam,
They have that and they have it for all the Korean soldiers who died, but also for all of the American soldiers who died and any other countries that fought as part of that coalition.
Yeah, I actually think this, I want to ask you about this too, because I think it's even scarier that this is like step one for Korea and the Korean government is like, oh, arrest the pastors that say that 30% of your hiring load in the government should be gay.
like let's do that let's arrest them but you're seeing people get elected in korea right now
who are north korea sympathizers and they they want to see a unified korea that's that's what
they call it right unified korea blake oh i think all koreans want to unified korea of course yeah by whom
exactly but i think this is super dangerous for you guys the trajectory you're on and i think that
America could definitely leverage the power and influence that we have in that country.
I'm sorry, I was it.
Do you want to read that?
Do you want to mention it?
And one more thing.
The current leader of the Democratic Party, Chongle-Jong, he is a pro-terrorist,
anti-American socialist who set fires to the U.S. embassy when he was young.
Literally.
Convicted.
80s and 90s, he was socialist, and he still, he's socialist and communist.
He brought receipts.
So funny thing about, you know, so as Mikey said, we, Koreans in general, we are deeply, deeply, you know, thankful for America.
Yeah. Going back 140 years ago, American missionaries came to Korea to, you know, basically put faith, you know, rooted Korea. And if you go to the cemetery in Yanghazin, the missionary cemetery, there are 65 infant graves because of the poor medical.
care and also, you know, the environment was, environment was so bad. So shortly after their
birth, they have passed away. And that's, I believe that that's the heart of America. So we are
so thankful. And 36,000 American soldiers have died during the Korean War. And we are so thankful.
But because of General MacArthur, communism, communists from China, North Korea and Soviet Union,
they weren't able to take over the Korean Peninsula.
They pushed all the way down to Busan,
which is very south city of, you know, where we're from.
And then we pushed all the way back up.
And thanks to American soldiers,
we were able to secure freedom, get liberated.
So for the Democrats,
this is kind of different to the political atmosphere
compared to the U.S.,
but for the communist, pro-China Democrats,
America is the one they took away
their country
their communism, communist to be country
so that's why they have been protesting against
the U.S. and the free countries.
Yeah, 100%.
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Let's do a couple of questions.
Okay, let's go forward.
No, what were you going to say, Blake?
No, I was just making sure, are we okay on that one?
I think we're going on time.
I think Riley is delayed.
Let's open up to some questions.
All right.
And then, yeah, if you.
you guys have any just raise your hand oh yeah they're going to have to borrow this i totally
forgot about that one and we're going to put up a QR code to uh help get involved to free your dad
and it's the petition for his release so thank you yeah we're going to make sure we're amazing
support you guys of course thank you so much all right i was just wondering if there are any
warning signs that came to south korea that you're seeing now in america that you would
want us to be a bulwark against and like stuff you would point out to say like hey you need to
pay attention to that and fight back against it early before you end up like closer to where we are
yeah so i can't even imagine what if camilla harris won the election this year last year and
the reason i'm i want to share my father's story and what's happening in south korea this
might if not it will come to the u.s and this is not about just my father's story and this is
my father, just one person, but just for us to realize what's at stake. And just like how Charlie
and Mikey have been advocating that we should be raising our voices and we should talk about politics
because it has been and it will be, it will always affect our lives and our children as well.
So we should get involved. Yep.
All right. My question, I got two of them real quick. First off,
As far as South Korea turning towards more socialism, communism,
all we see in the United States is Seoul.
And that's just like watching New York, Chicago, L.A., any big city.
And it looks like it's a prosperous, fully functioning country.
What is the economics in the South Korea itself to make people want to go,
towards the thing that you've got that they just fought a war back in the 1950s to save them from and then two
what is what is what is what is how does the Korean society see the male figure like here if you're a white male
you're your your your pond's gone and basically i mean that's how that's how society is is is looks at the
white male. Okay. Is that similar to, is that what they're doing in, in Korea where they're
making men feel inferior and raising the women so up? You got to, you got to basically worship them.
Do you want to answer the second question first? Second question first. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go ahead.
All right. So, so, so the first one, so, so the first one wasn't really a question, was it? I mean,
I mean, what is the economic, what is the economic climate in the entire peninsula that's making the
younger generation go towards socialism and communism, we just fought up war.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was definitely a question.
Sorry, I'm not a native speaker.
Yeah, so, education.
For the last few decades, you know, the leftists have been very successful
manipulating the education.
So, for example, we should be aware of the, you know, the foundation of, you know,
how Korea was, Republic of Korea was established.
and they manipulate that it wasn't the establishment of 1948.
Instead, they say it's 1919.
And they don't teach about how, you know,
they don't really teach about Christianity right now,
even in public schools.
Although Christianity by number is the most, you know,
the most populated religion in Korea is Christianity.
And they even call Christianity with different, like, weird name.
We call them.
So what we call them,
usually is Gidokio in Korean, but on the textbook it says Christigio, which is like a
Christi religion, which is not. So, you know, they've been basically in control of the
textbook, public education, and no freedom in education. So no parental rights, no parental
rights what education are their kids that kids will be educated on. So basically that. And second
question and second one is you know yes as you see we are not black we are not white but in
in south korea all we are yellow yellow yeah no asian asian sorry okay sorry english is not
not my native language definitely not for my brother either yeah yeah but uh there is
man and woman and a lot in in south korea feminism is prevalent prevalent
feminism. For instance, even in the church, lots of young women Christians, they are feminist. And if they go to college and university, then they become feminist. And South Korea, who goes to university ratio is the highest in the world. About 80 percent. It means 80 to 90 percent of women, almost all of them, go to university. And they are brainwashed. Could you tell them about the 4B movement?
that Charlie mentioned at the event
4B is
Do not birth
and do not
Your birth
Do not get birth
And do not get married
I think it's do not date
Do not marry
Do not have sex
Do not have children
Right right right right
Super radical feminism
Yeah yeah
That is prevalent
Even in the church
Yeah
That's why the birth rate is so low
And just like how you said, woman up there, how we should bow down to the woman.
I mean, we are equal, but we have...
In America, we'll talk about the sex divide, the gender divide,
that women in America vote significantly more to the left than men do.
And I think America has a pretty large gap compared to the world,
but I think Korea is one of the only countries that has an even larger one.
Yes.
I think America, if I'm not wrong, I think it's like 80% or the woman.
There was a specific story that I think 87% of young women voted for Mamdani in the New York mayor race.
More generally, I think young, what they'll highlight is, young unmarried women in America will be like 75% on the left, 25% on the right.
Yeah, Erica actually made that.
So they would often say how kind of the black, in the black,
community, the government replaced fathers in the home in terms of what they could provide
for families. And so now you kind of look at how it shifted. And Erica literally was the first
one to point this out. And I was like, wait, that's kind of mind-blowing. How the government has now
replaced husbands for a lot of women. And so this actually, there was something under Obama
where he had this ad that played, The Life of Julia, I think. Yes. I don't know if you guys have
seen this. It's literally an ad called The Life of Julia. And it shows this woman progressing
throughout her life and how the government aids her throughout her entire life. This was an ad
campaign for Obama in 2012 for his re-election. And it was, okay, when she's born, the government
is giving these programs for her mom. And then now she's in high school. Here's the free birth
control. They're giving her. And yeah, well, no, no, no, back then when that happened,
people were like, this is insane. And then now we're like,
like, oh, 83% are voting for Mom Dani.
Okay. Like, Life of Julia is now a thing.
That's really scary to hear.
Any other questions, guys?
Oh, right there.
Hi, guys. My name is Monica, and I just want to say it's so amazing that you guys came here,
and your story is so, you're so bold and so courageous, and unfortunately, a lot of the
young Christians that I know, I think the extent of being bold is, like, posting on their
social media story and the persecution is losing followers but I just wanted to ask. Sorry but I just
coughed. I was just wondering if you have any practical advice for young Christians for what you guys
obviously lived out for how to be bold in real life. I mean we are going through persecution
but as Christians I feel like although you're not going this kind of persecution we should have
You know, we should have empathy for brothers and sisters in Christ.
And also, as Christians, we are obligated to speak out what God wants us to speak out about.
The biblical truth, that will never change and stick to that.
And if you do, I think your view on how you're going to live your life,
what your calling is, what your mission is in this temporary life that's going to end really quick,
I think it's going to change if you really, really believe that.
And that has been my personal testimony since COVID lockdown, looking at my father.
Before that, I wasn't one of the, you know, the faithful kids, but my father being persecuted for, you know, worshiping God.
It was, he was so lonely.
Even among Christians, he was mocked.
He said, why don't you love your neighbors?
Why don't you just, you know, worship God online in pajamas?
They didn't make any sense to me.
and ever since then
I changed my way
of viewing things
discerning things
of course I like a lot
but I go back to Bible
I go back to what God has
told us to do
God told us through scripture
and that has changed my life
and I really hope
we change
we change
we reborn in Christ
that's amazing
anyone else we have a few
one more if anyone's got one
Yeah, I see one right there.
We have a bit of time because our last one is delayed.
Praise the Lord.
So my name's Kaylin, and I was just wondering, well, first of all,
thank you for sharing your story here.
But also you kind of were talking about, you know,
the warning to America.
And I just want to know from an outsider's perspective.
I think I just want to know what your thoughts are on America as a whole.
Because I think so often in America,
there's this like infighting of like us not being a good country and you know that we need to you know make people leave
and I'm talking more from the left side is that you know we're this horrendous country and that we just need to like let everyone in
but from an outsider's perspective I just wanted to know kind of how you guys see America like are we a beacon of light in any capacity I guess
I mean, so I went to school in Seattle for high school and college and, you know, that's a blue state, of course.
And I was almost forced to think that America is a bad country.
And you might think that if you were in Seattle.
I mean, I was manipulated.
I was getting brainwashed.
But thank God I have faith and I had my brother and my family.
And simply that's a lie.
Of course America is not perfect.
I'm not perfect.
No one's perfect, right?
And we might, or America could make some mistakes.
Of course, it's not perfect because it's not God.
But that's a lie.
Just like how there has been a misconcept of separation between church and state,
there's a lie.
That's a lie that America is bad.
You know, think of the good side.
How America, you know, there are 140 years ago, as I said earlier,
American missioners basically changed.
So when you look at the, when you look at the Korean peninsula at night, you can Google it.
There's a light in South Korea all over the country.
And North Korea, none except one city, Pyongyang where the Rockerman lives,
rocket man that President Trump calls.
Yeah, so please don't get manipulated and be courageous and be thankful that you're American
because, you know, free speech, freedom, religious freedom,
being able to say what you want and not get in prison for that,
it's a blessing.
It is blessing.
Don't take it for granted.
And you guys are doing great.
I think there were no America.
Then whole world was already communism, I think.
Amen.
Thank you so much.
Well, thank you guys so much for being here.
Right before we close, can you tell us how we can.
can be praying specifically for both you guys and for your dad?
Yeah, so Mikey mentioned about the petition,
and I think we're going to have the QR code up.
That is to raise awareness in America what could happen in the U.S.
And for us, please pray for our courage to keep fighting this fight.
Because we believe and we know that God has already won the battle,
but we have to be faithful just to fight so for not only our family but Christians in Korea to believe that
and if you believe that you will act upon it so for us to be courageous and to for God's kingdom not the
government and we are we are we have lots of hope actually we are hopeful because everything is done
everything is allowed by God God is the God is the Lord of every
everything. And I think God is awakening, waking up South Korea, Korean church, and even
I think American now. So don't worry everybody. And God is working. Yeah. Praise the Lord.
Hey, hallelujah. Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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