The Charlie Kirk Show - Democrat Hit Lists?

Episode Date: October 23, 2025

Jack and Andrew start off by covering a new story about Jack in The Atlantic, then they react to a new Democrat plan to publish hit lists of ICE agents to expose them to Luigi-style left-wing violence. Plus, an unexpected story emerges about the NBA and the… Mafia? Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And today I am joined by MAGA's main man. That's right. The number, the most important influencer in the MAGA world. And that is, of course, Jack Pesobic, host of human events daily. That's right, Jack. Take a bow. Yeah, okay. I did not. right the Atlantic piece. I did not go on the record for the Atlantic piece, but I will say this. I respectfully disagree with the Atlantic, naming me MAGA's most important influencer, next top of influencer. I respectfully disagree. The name of MAGA's most important influencer is Charles James Kirk. And that's all I'm going to say about that. Well, well, well said. Well, you

You took it in a classy direction. I was just trying to razz you a little bit. It came out this morning. The Atlantic, we knew this story was kind of percolating. Jack, you and I talked about it a little bit. And listen, I'll tell you what, you know, I think it's well earned. I think it's, you do a lot for the movement. You've been out and about like crazy lately.

Working campaigns. You've been campaigning for Jack Chitorelli. You've been encouraging the grassroots of turning point action. Obviously, you've been everywhere. um as we remember and celebrate the legacy of charles james kirk uh so you know i'm i'm excited to see it it's a i mean it is kind of a it's the atlantic so you know it's only fake news it has to be fake yeah i mean they they've been calling around they were asking like they're asking about my military record they were calling some you know the people i had served in the

military with and they were saying you know what was you know what units was he in and did he what was his service like and what was this and what was that? And I think they foyered my military records. They got a copy of that at one point, which is funny because, you know, I'll release my military records, but Mickey Cheryl, who's running for governor in New Jersey, she won't release her Navy Academy records when she was caught up in that cheating scandal. I'm like, I've released my records to every single reporter who's ever asked. I never have a problem with it. But for some reason, they never want to put that out because, oh, it earns out my records are actually pretty good. Turns out. Well, listen, there's another story.

about keeping records jack and this is of course uh the democrats on the oversight committee in house are going they've announced a plan to roll out a master online ice tracker uh so and this corresponds with a really creepy story that we covered at tpsa front lines uh about this basically at antifa hit list i want to know what the heck is going on with democrats keeping lists all a sudden and so it's amazing right so you there's no There's no daylight whatsoever between what you see at the Antifa level and what you see at the Democrat level in the House. And this is something where, you know, Harry Sisson asked me the other day. He said, you know, does, you know, are there any high-ranking Democrats who call Republicans fascists and Hillary?

I said, yeah, Kamala Harris did when you were campaigning for. They all do. Joe Biden, you go down the list, right? So what Katie Davis Court and TPSA front lines were able to uncover on the ground, they've gone through Seattle, they've gone through Portland. Portland. They've been infiltrating Oakland, California, infiltrating these Antifa cells. And they found hit lists of prominent influencers, reporters, media figures, conservatives, that if you see these people, that you are essentially to fight them, to attack them and to kill. And I'm just going to say it, to kill them, right? These are kill orders that got put out, certainly after the murder of Charlie Kirk and certainly after that White House roundtable that we held talking about Antifa. And that's what they're doing now. And so you can actually see there are certain members of the Turning Point Frontlines team like Jonathan Cho and Dr. Carlin Borsenko, who joined them as well, that were on the list, even as they themselves were there taking the photos and were infiltrators. So they're sitting there taking a picture of their own mugshots, essentially, from this terrorist group.

And again, it really just goes to show you that whenever you hear the media, whenever you hear the Democrats say that they don't exist. exist. Antifa doesn't exist. They have hit lists. They have books bears. They have communes. They have command centers in Seattle that you can go into and infiltrate like Turning Point Frontlines did. And God bless them for going in there, putting themselves in harm's way like this. They literally go to the front lines. And that's why they're called that. Those are the guys who should be called top of influencers. Those are the guys who are the most important, the ones that are actually putting themselves in harm's way. And I used to do stuff like this, but it's actually there's a piece in the article where Bannon says he, you know, he chewed me out for, you know,

doing this in 2020 because I started to become more recognized by Antifa. And that's what led to that picture of me in the Lincoln, the Statue of Lincoln, Abraham Lincoln, from 2020, squaring off with Antifa because they had recognized me. And I was just there to do a report on what was happening. So you look at all this and then you combine that with the fact that now we have house members that want to target ICE officers, the same ones who want to bring up January 6th, every time they get a chance. They bring up Jan 6, Jan 6, Jan 6. And now you are the ones that are physically doxing, harassing, and targeting federal agents on the street, who, by the way, are enforcing the laws that were passed by Congress. That's what federal agents do. They're trying to get people

killed. Yeah, let me play some of these clips. This is Robert Garcia. He's a top Democrat on the Oversight Committee. And he's announcing this plan, cut 243. I shared this with the mayor over the course of the next couple of weeks. The Oversight Committee will be launching on their website a master ice tracker where we can, we're going to be essentially tracking every single instance that we can verify that the community will send, be able to send us information on. Yeah, and you saw Karen Bass there, and then we have another disgraced big city mayor. This is Lori Lightfoot, just getting in on the action, 290. We start the process of unmasking the agents. Even though they're wearing masks, every single one of them has a towel.

You say on masking, they're going to say you're going to docks them, and that's why threats against them are up. They are on public property out and open. We have an absolute right under our Constitution to be able to document what's happening. Every single one of those agents, height, weight, hair color, they wear their vest in a particular way. They're wearing insignias. Even the masks that they wear, the shoes that they wear, the cars that they're driving. We have a right to compile that information. So she's claiming she has a constitutional right to essentially docks, track, and endanger ICE agents that are enforcing federal immigration law.

And by the way, that we're just this policy of mass deportations that was just voted on by the American people after Joe Biden led in 10 million plus illegals stream into this country. And so now they're doing it. So you're seeing this at the federal level. You're seeing this at the local level. There's Letisa James who's getting in on the action here, Jack. 288. Let's play that cut. A new portal where residents can send photos and videos of ice operations. James says the portal is meant to review and investigate legal violations by agents.

And her statement referenced Tuesday's immigration raid in Chinatown in New York City. Meantime, House Democrats say they will launch their own similar ice tracker. U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi criticizing that effort, citing a sharp increase in and violence against law enforcement. So, Jack, we've got two different efforts here to track ICE agents, and Stephen Miller is livid. He's saying how much more blood has to be spilled by Democrats before this madness stops? And that's exactly where my head goes.

We just see what... By the way, just on Lori Lighthizer, I wanted to say I commend her. I know Halloween is next week, but I'm glad that she's already out wearing her Beetlejuice costume in public. I want to say that's really great. Don't say it three times. you know, it might pop up. But, I mean, you, you hear this violent rhetoric and you hear this violent. And again, these are taking steps. So when you talk about the, it's like when you talk to lawyers about what's a, you know, how do you constitute a conspiracy? Well, there's a conspiracy to

commit violence. Well, taking steps in furtherance of a conspiracy is how you move from just talking about something like, oh, I hate that. I hate that guy so much, you know, you know, I can murder him or whatever. Right. That's free speech. But when you take steps in furtherance of conspiracy, that's when it crosses into a legal action. And so what they're saying out there, the low level are saying, we are going to kill the ICE agents, we're going to shoot at them, they have shot at them. This guy down in Dallas had the anti-ice written on the bullet casings. And now what do we see? They're giving lists. They're trying to put out addresses. They want another killer. They're taking steps in furtherance of the conspiracy.

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prayers and keep all of us at TPSA. And by the way, the front lines team that is doing this brave investigation, the Cho Show, Jonathan Cho, Servan Hernandez, Katie Davis court. So please keep them in your prayers as well. So, Jack, I mean, I'm just, I'm looking at a list of stories here that I want to get to with you. So we got, we got, we got a move here because I want to get to all of them. We got Pentagon media credential list. I think you're, you're important for that just from a media perspective. We got this NBA, yeah, the NBA sports betting. scandal that just happened this morning with the FBI arrested like 34 people and there's mafia ties. You know, Goodell's back in Bad Bunny. You know, Jen Socky's coming after Usha and

J.D. Vance. There's a CDL story, another CDL story out of California. Another guy named Patel, isn't that his last name? Let me just double check on that. I think that's the FBI director. well it's a yeah exactly name released yeah it's another illegal alien from india yeah and this is uh sing sing sing s i n g h yeah i was like that doesn't sound but tell us because the fbi i think this more so you've got all your you've got all your stories are blurring together

they're blurring together so jack tell us about this pentagon thing the way i understand it is that the pentagon and this is of course you know our good friend pete hegg said who charley fought real hard to get confirmed. And they basically put out new press guidelines saying that you cannot ask members, staff, Pentagon officials to go off the record. And essentially everybody in the press corps that covers the Pentagon walked out, except for groups like TPSA, the National Polls. Tell us about this story from a, give us your media perspective on this. Yeah. So, you know, I was, when I was reached out to about the new Pentagon Press Corps by the Department of War and their press

office, I jumped at the chance. I mean, why wouldn't I want human events and our entire team from there and the post-millennial to get in on the stories, to embed with as new media for any of these things like I just did with the Secretary of War as well as the President down to the Navy 250th. And I had the opportunity to go to the Marine Corps 250th. It didn't work out time-wise with the Vice President advance. and so you want to be able to do that coverage now the media of course they prior to this administration they were given free reign of the pentagon they were allowed to walk around the halls they were allowed you know access like a just just just a complete inordinate honestly i can understand from the

pentagon's perspective perhaps inappropriate level of access because what have they been dealing with leaks they've been dealing with very bad political leaks the likes of which have turned into impeachments like the one Eric Charimella that started with a guy on the National Security Council leaking to the, leaking to the press, specifically David Ignatius and the Washington Post and the US saw the General Flynn case started with leaks. So they've been dealing with all of these leaks over the years. What they're trying to do is fight those leaks. Look, the press is the press. The press has the First Amendment. And we at human events and the Post-Millennial are certainly going to exercise our First Amendment rights. Now, one ever tells us what to write.

never tells me what to say and I would honestly bristle if anyone did and they know that's not how this game works but at the same time we are going to tell what we hear and what we find out publicly and honestly and we are not going to put any spin on it and people can go and look at my record all the way through the you know the strikes in iran or the israel uh you know the israel conflict with hamas and gaza and we covered it here with charlie every single day when all of that was going on we've acted a massive live stream about it telling everybody what was going to happen and what our analysis was. So we're going to stick to that.

And if the mainstream media is upset that depending on is actually taking these leaks seriously, then I think they kind of seem to have forgotten what their actual role is. Yeah, I mean, I just, you know, I have worked in press and media from a PR perspective. You know, I did all of Charlie's crisis PR and booked him on all the media hits, handled profiles etc and i will tell you that you know there are good kind people in the press core that are at the national level legacy media level and there are a pit of vipers that will make up the remainder and you have to understand this is the most entitled pretentious uh i would say career that one might choose or just the disposition of those people that

tend to occupy that career in that profession and yeah to your point it doesn't seem like listen you can work outside of the halls of the pentagon and still ask for something on background or off the record they're just saying like while you're in this building uh you cannot do that and that that's the new rule i don't see what the big deal is post millennial human events the national polls gateway pundit you know it's going to be a whole new day at the pentagon and if the press is just going to opt out don't be surprised when you don't get the don't get the stories We truly are living in a historic time. After 738 days, the 20 living Israeli hostages have been released from captivity.

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St. Michael figured you'd like that one Jack Catherine says hello lovely people and friends and family of beloved Charlie Kirk I miss him every day and find myself talking to him and thanking him from praying for him and about that Lori Lightfoot clip if it is okay because they ice agents are on public property to gather all their personal data and unmasked them. Is it not fair to demand the same of the Antifa masked rioters so we can see who they are? Yes, Catherine, I think it's a great idea, and I already forwarded it that idea on to some folks. Robin, yes, they're trying to put a target on Jack's back.

I often read the comments on truth. Okay, they're mostly good. Of course they are. So here's a, this was a subject we covered yesterday, Jack, on the Muslim call to prayer, Medi Hassan saying it's just like church bells. It says, Andrew, our country was based on Christian Jewish values. Freedom of religion, but not from religion. No public calls to prayer for Muslims or any other religion besides Christian church bells, in my opinion.

Thank you all praying for you all, Sue. God bless you, Sue. Here's a... So, Thorner, I don't know if you know the answer to this, Jack, but John Solomon reported that the current restrictions on the Pentagon Press Corps are less than those during the Obama administration, and they didn't complain then. I don't know if you know they answered to that, but it certainly seems like. Well, I certainly remember that the Obama administration went after James Rosen and held him in contempt of court and actually threw him in prison for refusing to release a source.

So you want to talk about freedom of the press. I don't think I don't think. No, don't, let's just be fair. There are a few reporters that I'd love to see locked up, but I haven't seen the White House doing that under Trump. That's exactly. That's exactly right. All right. So listen, next story. here jack we've got to get to it because it's just it's too important so this uh NBA sports betting and I I liked it because Charlie loved talking about the NBA it's weird he didn't watch it but he loved arguing about Jordan and LeBron so this came out today that it was you know basically uh there's there's a mass conspiracy involving La Cosa Nostra the mafia and it involves players. It involves a head coach of the Portland Trailblazers, Chauncey Billups, and the mafia. So it's quite the extensive deal. 34 arrests. Go ahead, Jack. So I remember, and Rudy

Giuliani talks about this all the time because he was the lead prosecutor at SDMI that went after the five families of Locos and Ostra and really broke that back in the 80s before he became mayor. That was what, you know, started his political career and those ambitions and put him on the map. But if you go back to that time, what did they say in the 80th? They used to say, just like Antifa today, they used to say the mafia doesn't exist, that it's a figment of your imagination, that there's this whole conspiracy. Oh, that's a good tie in. That's just a Hollywood movie. None of this is real. And it was all completely real. Yeah, well, and this is the benefit that Antifa, because you can understand these, the evil morphs in it, and it

adjusts and it evolves in order to stay out of a position where they're going to be held accountable, right so antifa is now this decentralized kind of ideological movement and little sleeper cells take up the mantle and they organize and then they share pamphlets of information this is what you saw in the front lines documentary that they're all publishing these information there are far left radicalizing bookstores in seattle and portland that just give this stuff out and then they scan it and they have the little discord chats or the little like private chats sometimes it's just on blue sky but this is how they do it and so but whereas we with the mafia, and we've talked about this, this is actually part of the limitations of the RICO statutes that were passed essentially to take out the mafia because the mafia had a hierarchy, it had a network, whereas Antifa doesn't.

So RICO is actually, there's our legal argument of whether or not RICO can even... It has to be updated. Yeah, and RICO needs to be updated to take out these organized, decentralized, decentralized organizations like Antifa that do not necessarily have a hierarchy. Because the internet didn't exist back then. Of course, of course, yeah, exactly.

because you don't need, you actually don't need hierarchy to be really mobile and really fluid and responsive. And so that's the key. But anyways, Cash Patel named several high-profile NBA figures that have been arrested, Playcut 312. The FBI led a coordinated takedown across 11 states to arrest over 30 individuals today responsible for this case, which is very much ongoing. Not only did we crack into the fraud that these perpetrators, committed on the grand stage of the NBA, but we also entered and executed a system of justice against La Casano

to include the Bonanno, Gambino, Ginevesi, and Lucchese crime families. So we've got a mass conspiracy to defraud people involving high up. You know why I like this? Do you know why I like this, Jack? It's sort of like not on my bingo car. It wasn't something I was like hoping would happen.

I've basically ignored the NBA for a lot. I was expecting to be on the convo today for show topics. No, exactly. I ignored the NBA, but I saw the NBA that made me think of Charlie and all of his great Jordan versus LeBron debates. And plus, we start hour two with the 90s bowl and bowl's intro music. Charlie was a proud Chicagoan and he loved that stuff. You got to get that clip of Charlie's basketball highlights. Yes.

Yeah. And he played basketball. So I loved it, but I also loved it for another reason. And that was because candidly, it just felt old. school. It felt like a press conference we would have gotten like the early 2000s or something, right? You know, where it was like, here we are. We're taking down. We're making sure there's wire or Barry Bonds. Yeah. It felt like we're just, you know, society will fall apart if we don't have rules. If we don't have rules in order and we don't have accountability, society's going to

fall apart. I already cannot watch the NBA because I just think it's rigged. I look at the fouls, the flops. It's a complete garbage league. but some people still like it. And obviously people are betting billions of dollars on the NBA. And so it was really good to have some rules, like actually be applied. And I love that about it. And you really look at it too. And it's because you step back and it's like there's that great quote in the general

patent movie where he says, America loves winners. America will not tolerate losing. America will not tolerate losers. But at the same time, okay, go look at the same time. look okay go look at the trans issue so the trans issue was gaining traction for years and conservatives did not know how to fight back because they were saying oh it's freedom it's just freedom so then then we started talking more about how they focus on kids and that guy that gave it way more traction but man it really didn't take off completely until we started talking about sports because to the

average person out there and i'm not talking like the people who listen to this show uh we we are a select a select and growing group of people. I'm not talking to the people that are involved or engaged in politics. I'm talking about the average person. The average American, what did they love? Fairness in sports. This is one of the reasons that we don't want the AI umpires and refs or something because what do we like to do? We like to argue over whether or not the rules were applied fairly. And so unfairness in sports is something that is just so deeply un-American and cuts against the grain. And that's why it was the sports issue. And I think there was like a powerlifting competition where they had a trans.

I guess it was a guy competing in a girls competition in California or something just this week or like yesterday. Minnesota. Minnesota, the Minnesota Supreme Court. Yeah, the Minnesota Supreme Court. But here's the other reason this is huge. Charlie was starting to really zero in. You saw this in his interview with Tucker Carlson when he went to Tucker Studio for that interview. He talked about the rise of sports betting,

especially among younger men. Check this out. Young adults are more likely than older Americans to say they've placed a sports bet in the last year. Some 31% of adults, under 30 say this, including 36% of young men and 29% of women, which is supporting. It was just surprising. Sports betting is far less common among older people. And this is a multi, multi-billion dollar industry. And Jack, we know that this is taking out the lives of young men. And now you find out that at the NBA, there's a lot of rigged betting going on. And what this betting was actually focusing on was prop betting. Prop betting is when you don't necessarily bet on the outcome of a game,

but you bet on the singular performance of a player, right? And so basically there was a... Kind of like how fantasy sports works a little bit. Yeah, exactly. Well, this is the fan duel, exactly, that kind of stuff. And by the way, these are now made sponsors of these sports leagues. That's how big the industry has gone. And as gambling has spread across the country, legalized gambling, you're getting more and more young people that are losing their absolute shirt on betting they have no business doing.

And by the way, here's the other little dirty secret is that it's completely rigged in favor of the house. If you bring a better onto these platforms that's too successful, well, they're going to get kicked off. So the whole thing is rigged in favor of the house. So not only are the platforms rigged, but now you're finding out that the players are rigging the games. I guess Chauncey Billis was involved in some sort of elaborate poker scheme. Or maybe working with some of the whales to be able to, you know, set it all ups and then they get a piece. Well, yeah. And Chauncey Bill was doing something with X-rays and poker games.

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I have to show this clip here really quick. 326. I think this is Charlie smack-talking Cabot Phillips years and years ago, who's now with the Daily Wire. It's great. 326. Cabot, right here. One-on-one.

Better bring your end game. You're going to get smoked. I love it. I absolutely love it. Charlie loved to play basketball. It was a big basketball player in high school. Jack, I'm going to play this clip. This Charlie remembering his all-Serbian basketball team.

I guess he got a Serbian basketball name. It's pretty funny. This is in suburbs of Chicago. Apparently there's like a big Serb population there. So his high school team had all these tall Serbs on the, and Charlie on the team. They're super tall. Yeah, 328. We grew up with a lot of Serbs in Chicago.

I have a soft spot for Serbs. They're awesome. I know the worst thing you could say in the Serbian language. And I will not say it on air is the FCC. would find some way to still find me. I played on a Serbian basketball team, actually. My name was Sheva Kerkiewicz. I could you not have a jersey that says Kerkiewicz.

Oh, God bless him. I miss him. I want another trial clip. I want another Charlie clip. So this is another story, the CDL story. So obviously there was that terrible accident that happened in Florida. Now it happened in California, three dead, and another illegal alien, also named Singh. that kills more people in California this time because, you know, we're just handing out CDLs like their candy, Jack. But this was Charlie reacting to the Florida story, which was another California

issued CDL 316. Unfathomable that a person got this, got a commercial license doing this, unless you realize what's actually going on here. California will give a driver's license to anyone as long as they are illegal. They want illegal criminals here. And you're just so casual about You know, people say all the time, well, Charlie, what about the law-abiding ones? Aren't they doing well? Law-abiding ones become, unfortunately, responsible for mass carnage. Jack Posobic, your take. Look, this is, this stems from, and it's something that Charlie, you know, obviously had a, you know, I would say an arc on when, you know, when he started out in politics to where he ended up, where we aren't in an economy first.

not a GDP first and there's a lot of GDP firsters and like we all go through and you know people might get mad if I say this but you know we all go through that iron ran phase when we're kids and when we're young and obviously Charlie was a teenager when he started turning point that you know we're like oh yeah just get the man off our back and and everything will be great but then you start to realize the GDP is actually just a theory it's like an academic theory it doesn't actually describe or capture most of how life exists for the country and when you start to realize that no we're actually a nation that has an economy and we're a nation that can use an economy as a tool and that's just one of the features of american life

but the quality of life is not necessarily captured so when you say oh GDP first let's just import all these foreign truck drivers and throw around the CDLs on them it'll be great it'll make all of our products that much cheaper because of course you need more truckers to get products to market that's how our system works because we have globalization because we don't make anything in this country anymore then all of a sudden it leads to situations like this where we have people driving these incredibly powerful literal weapons of mass destruction if you put it in the hands of god forbid someone uh who has nefarious intentions let alone someone who's just incompetent and then you put them in streets and highways all across the country so every single highway you're in and i'll just say it

you know when you drive on the highways these days i drove all the way up 95 to uh you know north jerry last week for the Chittarelli rally and every time you see a semi you know they just don't drive as good as they used to you know they're always causing trouble switch lanes like crazy it's not like it used to be at all when you could just sort of do the uh you can remember you used to be able to do the the and then the elbow thing and they would do the horn for like the trucker or whatever so just is reporting from bill malusian i totally agree jack and i'm going to make a statement on the end of this but this is reporting from bill malusian his name is jashenpreet sing and killing three people in a DUI crash on the 10 freeway on Ontario, California,

Indian illegal alien who was caught and released at the California border by the Biden administration in March of 2022. DHS photo of him and attached via federal sources. ICE is placing a detainer request on Singh with the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department where he is in custody on suspicion of DUI. So he was speeding and under the influence, never hitting his break, slammed right. into the car in front of killing i'm sure everybody instantly and i just want i'm going to end this hour jack by reiterating a call that charlie had made you know and i would say charlie had an arc on

immigration i'd say i think me and erika played a role in that you played a role in that but charlie ended up getting pretty pretty uh hardlined about immigration and i'm going to reiterate the call we want legal immigration fixed in this country legal there's no need for 1.2 million green cards in a country as large as ours that has had as much immigration as we've had for as long as we've had and that has robotics and AI

coming to take jobs, especially from lower econ spectrum people and workers. So please, let's fix our legal immigration. Let's start with an immigration moratorium. How about it? How about it? How about five, ten years? Immigration

moratorium. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.