The Charlie Kirk Show - Disparate Impact Downfall

Episode Date: December 10, 2025

At the heart of the federal DEI machine is the doctrine of "disparate impact." Now, the Trump DOJ is moving rapidly to rip that doctrine to shreds. If they succeed, it will have a transformative effect on the whole country. The DOJ's civil rights chief Harmeet Dhillon explains why her move is so crucial and long-overdue, and the show reacts to Trump's 2024-style rally in Pennsylvania. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's a good day. December 10th, here we are in studio. Lots going on. And by the way, some really, really great news. Yes. Huge news for Erica and the team and really for Charlie. We have just got the Wall Street Journal published it this morning. Charlie Kirk's newest book is a hit, and it is out of stock on Amazon.

Here you go. Yep, that's the graphic from the Wall Street Journal, the story. And here, of course, is the book. Stop in the name of God, why honoring the Sabbath will transform your life. Erica has been doing an amazing job. She, of course, was on this show yesterday, promoting it in Charlie's stead, and just couldn't be more proud of her and everything she's doing. I mean, she's going on the five.

I think she's doing outnumbered this morning. Hannity radio calls. She's doing the whole circuit. Obviously, this is her first time doing this. Like, you know, people don't realize this about Erica. It's not like she's been trained like Charlie over 12 years of doing repeat reps. Exactly, exactly. She's doing tremendous.

Yes, absolutely immense. Yeah. Beginning to end top to bottom. Yeah. So they're all impressed. They've sold like 60,000 copies in the first day of this book. Oh, that's really good. Tremendous.

Yeah. And they're doing reprint. books don't always sell that much these times no 45books.com if you want to get your your 60,000 that's yeah if you want to get your copy it's just and I and I said this in a tweet yesterday that I it I pitched Charlie on doing all kinds of different politics books like we were talking about what is his next book going to be and he was just adamant he's like no it's going to be about the Sabbath I've been wanting to write this book for a long time I really want to write it I was like okay but like no Sabbath you know and it's just apropos it's almost like he saved

his most important book for last in a lot of ways. And his most timeless one. Because all the other ones, they're a moment in time. College will hopefully be either destroyed or reformed. You don't need to call it a scam anymore. Right wing revolution. That was all about what the next GOP admin should do. But this is one you could have 30 years from now, 50 years from now, 200 years from now. Yeah, a thousand percent. I want to play a couple clips from Erica being on the five yesterday just because it was so, I mean, I don't remember. I don't remember. Remember the last time I saw it kind of like a guest host on The Five, especially, you know, promoting a book. So thank you to The Five and Jesse and Greg and Dana and even Jessica Tarlov.

She was very sweet. 219. Jesse and Greg are in a Bible study group together. Are they really? Because of Charlie Kirk. Okay. That is really cool. So every morning.

That is really cool. Every morning we wake up and we read a passage and then we text about it. Okay. And it is because of Charlie Kirk. Charlie. I love that. Wait, man. So what are you saying? It was Harold, Jesse, and Greg. So Harold, the liberal, and Jesse and Greg are not. And they're all in a Bible study because of Charlie. So we found that out yesterday, which was, which was amazing. Here's Erica Kirk telling the five about how President Trump has been there for her in this time, 220. When Donald Trump secured peace in the Middle East, the next day he flew back to D.C. to deliver my husband's Medal of Freedom to me. He didn't have to do that.

So a lot of people, I understand there's a lot of policy and everything involved, but also I am very proud to have Donald Trump as our president. I really am. He's a good man. It's a good man. And, you know, 2-33, put that picture back up. Stopping the name ago. Top's number one on Amazon, bestseller list.

Book, like it's sold out on Amazon. They're getting reprinted. more. I've been checking it. It looks like we only have physical copies of this. It looks like that's what 45 books their approach is. I'm really happy to have my copy. And I'm like literally reading a couple chapters every night and I'm telling you this book is finite. I mean, I know it's like people would expect me to say, I would probably remain silent if I didn't have anything nice to say about it. Actually, I would just sort of say, you know, check it out. Support Charlie, support Erica. Like it's really freaking good, man. You know, when God instituted the

Sabbath. He wove rest into the fabric of creation. And on the seventh day, God finished his work that he had done, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work that he had done, Genesis 2, 2. God did not rest because he was tired. He rested because he was satisfied, and he invites us to do the same. There's like all these little tidbits that these breakthrough ideas in this book. And it's just phenomenal. So congratulations to Eric and the team, the team at winning team publishing, 45books.com. If you want to get your copy, Eric is actually, it was a funny because this morning I've been texting with a bunch of people with

you know, Erica's going to do Glenn Beck's show tomorrow morning and then so we got into a conversation with Glenn's team and then so Glenn's actually going to join us at the top of the show tomorrow. Oh, awesome. Which will be great and we can talk about that many other things. But there's another big news story

that was near and dear to Charlie's heart. Oh, this is lovely. And it's near and dear to Blake's heart. So we're going to hit it at hour one. We're also going to bring Harmeet Dylan from the DOJ Civil Rights Department on at the second half of this hour to talk about it. But that is, of course, the rolling back of disparate impact standards within the DOJ and within the federal government. Blake, what is disparate impact if you had to boil it down?

All righty. So disparate impact is more people are thankfully becoming aware of it. But it's been around for half a century at this point. And disparate impact is sort of the, it's the spearhead for a lot of what we call the DEI regime, the agenda, The Deii dictatorship of America, which is where instead of things coming down to merit, coming down to measurable ability, where we reduce things to quotas, to favoritism, to discrimination based on race or sex or national origin or who knows what. And, you know, I think this is actually a good opportunity to bring in Charlie, because he was talking about this in April when there was a Trump executive order, concerning this and we're going to get to the follow-up in a second. But this was Charlie summing it up. Let's play 236. In 1971, there was a Supreme Court case, Gregs v. Duke Power

Company. Duke Power was sued because for people to get certain jobs at the company, they required them to either have a high school diploma or pass an aptitude test. Black applicants were less likely to have a diploma. And they didn't do as well on the aptitude test. The Supreme Court ruled that Duke's job requirements were, quote, justified, were not justified by business necessity. And so they were illegally discriminatory, and thus the doctrine of disparate impact was born. So what he's saying there is the idea was, this was a neutral test. It was just having a high school diploma or taking this aptitude test. No one could really, there was no one actually coming in and saying, oh, don't hire black people. But they were just less likely to do well as well on this test.

And the court said, well, we don't think this test is close enough to what you need employees to do at this company. And because it doesn't have an equal outcome between these two groups, it's discriminatory. So it's what took our law from what most people think of when they think of discrimination, where you're deliberately discriminating against people. And they're saying anything you do if it has an unequal outcome can be labeled illegal, can be labeled illegal discrimination, can get you sued. and what that's turned into is essentially anything can be illegal because news flash Andrew everything has unequal outcomes everything in the world

no one actually I think we have this as well literally every standard imaginable has created has some sort of disparate impact against a group nobody on this planet has ever designed a test or a standard that men women blacks whites Asians Hispanics Catholic Jews gays straits do so equally well The very idea is an absurd fantasy. You're going to have different outcomes.

But what disparate impact does, it says the test itself is wrong. It is a loophole that you could drive a semi-truck through. It's a little sliver. You say, oh, disparate impact. Oh, that's the big deal here. No, no, no, no. This has been exploited by DEI actors for the last 30 years. 30 years?

It last 50 years, really. And again, one of the things I want to get into is, aptitude test. We used to require these to get a job in the federal government, for example. And one of the best examples of this was the NYPD. I brought it up before a class of chiefs, the 1939. Now, this had controversy because they claimed it was anti-Semitic or anti-Jewish. But here's what's interesting. They had so many applicants. They just selected candidates from the top scores on the civil service exam. Far more officers made it to retirement or achieved high-rank performance than any other year.

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Blake, we were talking about aptitude tests, good or bad? Abtitude tests are great. They're one of the fairest things we have in modern life. No, they're racist. Oh, no, there are a lot of things that get called racist in America. You know what's funny? Charlie loved Thomas Sol's book on disparate impact. It was discrimination and disparities, right?

And the whole theme of the book is that, you know, you challenge single explanations, like single factor explanations. So disparities are not solely due to discrimination, exploitation, genetics. There's multivariate analysis that needs to be done. It's complex thinking. You can't just say, what's great about aptitude tests is anyone can walk in and do well on a test, whereas every other standard people propose those alternatives. They're always much more likely to favor people who have networks, who have other things they can take advantage of.

frankly it's way better to be a person with money with an informal system than just a system where whoever scores best does best i recommend everybody check out thomas soul's book discrimination and disparities it's one of charlie's favorite books to quote and in it soul challenges single factor explanations and what that means is there is disparities in racial outcomes blacks and Hispanics tended not to do as well on certain aptitude tests we can ask questions of why that is so they got rid of aptitude tests largely in order to get into the federal government you had to pass or you had to take a pace test which was what does it stand for political and professional

and career examination and administrative career examination and so we still have some tests in the federal government but widely they've been they've been removed that's the important thing about disparate impact it doesn't actually ban tests there are still for example the

maybe unless they got rid of the state department has long had a test to get in, for example. But when we say, I said disparate impact makes everything illegal, it literally does make everything illegal. And what that means is that you have government by vibes. So, for example, with disparate impact, a company, if they say, we're just going to give every job applicant an IQ test and hire the top scorers, they'll get, historically, they would get a very questionable look from the federal government. It would feel legally risky to do. But if they say you need this or that college

diploma to be hired by us, it's very unlikely that they would be questioned, even if that diploma isn't super directly related to what they're hiring for. And both of those things have a disparate impact. You know, whites and Asians are more likely to have college diplomas than black Americans, for example. So why

is one looked at negatively and the other isn't? It basically just comes down to how the bureaucrats feel. It's vibes-based. And government bureaucrats and lawyers like colleges. They like diplomas. They like liberal colleges dispensing these job-granting credentials to people that you have to pay a ton of money for, and they don't like IQ tests. And so you get this vibes-based government, and then you also get, that's what also drives that HR ratchet that Charlie would talk so much about, which is you avoid getting the government after you by doing all these big, loud, expensive signals that you're not racist, that you're not sexist, because everyone's breaking the law because everything's illegal. so you just are trying to say, don't eat me because they can't eat everyone.

And this all loops around to why we're talking about this today because one of the great things going on in this administration, something that's not talked about enough, is they have been waging war on this monstrosity. The reason we had those Charlie clips is President Trump did an executive order to roll back disparate impact last April. And just yesterday we had a great announcement from the Department of Justice's Civil Rights Division where they're going. going after the traditional disparate impact prioritization in their office, the quote they had from their division. The prior disparate impact regulations encouraged people to file lawsuits challenging racially neutral policies without evidence of intentional discrimination. Our rejection of this theory will restore true equality under the law by requiring proof of actual discrimination rather than just enforcing race or sex-based quotas or assumptions.

And the other thing that we had yesterday, because of this, the civil rights divisions, a bunch of employees of the DOJ's civil rights decision, a division, have released an open letter denouncing the direction that the department has been headed in. And it turns out about 75% of lawyers, of career lawyers in the DOJ's civil rights division have left because they are outraged at the direction. The Trump administration is taking it. God bless America. Yeah, this is better than Doge. this is better you know like 75% of a of a single of a political bureaucracy the commissar the woke commissars as charlie like to say get them out get them out former DOJ staff criticized leadership for abandoning civil rights

mission that's a that's a good thing it's an amazing thing stand up and clap and we are going to we're going to give harm eat dillon her kudos and a warm congratulatory welcome them on to this show because it's listen you're losing 75 attorneys that are leaving the DOJ civil rights division or 200 75% yeah 75% sorry more than 200 former employees yeah criticize what they call an ongoing destruction of the civil rights division this is the this is bigger and more impactful than most people could possibly realize because yeah you know charlie said 30 years this has been going on for 50 years in our federal government when you see a sliding of standards when you see an abandonment of meritocracy when you see that like there I think there's this

prevailing fog over the country where it just feels like things don't matter anymore it's like oh well people just get away with crap and nobody gets held accountable this is one of the root causes for that where it's like charlie used to say it was like whose line is it anywhere where the points are made up and the rules don't matter that's what modern society is starting to feel like why does it feel that way part of the root cause of this is disparate impact it's and by the way The legal profession getting infected with D.I. and critical theory and all of these things, it floods out into the wider culture and the wider society, government bureaucracies, civil order. And things fall apart over time. Things disintegrate and degrade.

And so if you want to get to root causes, you have to get rid of disparate impact. This is a huge, huge development. A new Hillsdale College miniseries on Colonial America offers a fresh way to think about Thanksgiving. Beyond the food and the political debates, it reminds us what we should be truly thankful for, our freedom, our prosperity, and our faith. In a brand new six-part documentary series, Hillsdale College professors will teach you the religious, the political, cultural, and economic ideas that shaped a uniquely American culture during the colonial period. This Hillsdale course will focus on the forging of the American character that made the revolution

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have you thanks for having me it's always an honor to be on this show yeah absolutely i uh told the audience harmeet that we were going to give you a very warm welcome because uh you have You have done what I think even Doge was not able to do. And you are, I'll let you describe it the way you want to because I know these things can be sensitive in the actual official halls of power. But your cleaning house at the DOJ's civil rights division, there's a report this morning. We celebrate these changes. And also there's news on disparate impact. The floor is yours, Harmeet.

Well, thank you so much, Andrew. And so, yes, I'm in the news this week because there are hundreds of. disgruntled former civil rights division lawyers who voluntarily quit. I didn't fire them after I told them that their job was going to be to protect the civil rights of all Americans, not just the chosen few and their pet projects that they had been pursuing for decades here in the civil rights division. 200 of them or so immediately quit and took a five-month payout, so over $100,000 worth of severance pay. And then over the last few months, another close to 100 have quit. And yet, you know, they're writing in the press. Roiders covered it and they want

they say that I'm trashing the DOJ. I've changed its mission. I'm making them making attorneys do stuff they don't want to do. And it's against the storied, historic vision of the DOJ. But I completely disagree. I'm really proud of the work that we're doing. And obviously, it seems obvious to me that the United States Department of Justice should be justice for all Americans. not just some Americans or some winners of a victimhood sweepstakes. And I think that actually is very popular with Americans. And we're continuing to do the core focus of our work. We're protecting people with the disabilities.

We're even protecting prisoners. We're protecting the rights of students in schools, employees in the workplace, contractors, people who are discriminated against hate crimes, anti-semitism. Actually, all the same stuff that we did before we're doing it, but we're just doing it for everybody, not just for some. And we're going to keep doing it that way. So if you don't like it, too bad, this is how it's going to be for the balance of this administration and hopefully beyond because shouldn't the DOJ be for all Americans? So I'm really proud of that.

And this criticism just shows that we're over the target, Andrew. It's amazing. And so it's amazing. Yeah, Harmi, we like, trust me, we are this news. We literally were like standing up and clapping before when we saw it. I'm telling you. So again, just to reiterate, about 75% of it. attorneys left the DOJ civil rights division and claimed amid claims of a coordinated effort to

drive them out. No, they, they quit on their own accord. You did not fire them. And they, they claim that you're abandoning the civil rights mission of the DOJ. I think this is great. Is it safe to say, Harmeet, that the DOJ's civil rights division is now hiring? There is some spots that opened up. Yes. Thank you for, thank you for mentioning that. I was itching to say that. And so to be clear, we have a huge agenda. So it isn't just sort of, there's no goal to shrink the Civil Rights Division. We actually have a huge affirmative agenda. I'm suing 14 states right now, and they're going to be more on that list by the end of the week. A lot of exciting litigation. We just sued Minneapolis for discriminating against teachers who are not minorities and, you know,

on and on and so we are hiring. And so lawyers with at least 18 months experience who are interested, in serving a tour of duty to help their country can apply at USAjobs.gov and look for civil rights division. We are hiring as fast as we can, qualified candidates who are willing to do the work I just articulated, enforce all of our federal civil rights statutes with a lens of all Americans and this administration's priorities. What's that URL again, Harmi? I want to put it up on it's USAjobs.gov. USAJ jobs.gov. If you want to go work with Harmeet Dillon and you are an attorney that wants to defend the civil rights of all Americans, novel idea. Novel idea. You know, it's funny about this whole thing. I mean, yeah, it's crazy. Go to USAJ jobs.gov and I'll have the team put it up on that lower banner there so everybody can write it down. You know, what's crazy about this, you know, when they started this stuff back in the 60s, right, disparate impact, which we're going to talk about next, you know, I get it. Okay, it was like, let's say it was 18. 83% white country. Now we're basically 50%. We're on track to, you know, I think the last census

had whites at what, 56, 57% of the population. You give that another 10 years. It's going to be probably under 50%, maybe right around 50%. I mean, that's what we're kind of like losing every 10 years at a 10 year clip. When I was born, I think we were around 80% white still. But as this happens, you're going to see, I don't know, some of this old way of thinking about how white equals bad oppressive majority like it's it's got to necessarily we've got to rethink the way this is happening because if you're just going to say that another one of the minorities in this country like i mean it might be minority majority but like still it's not the same dynamics as it was in the past and and we have to we have to make sure everybody is getting protected and one of the

ways that you do that sorry if you want to chime in there harm me feel free yeah so let me talk about that i mean let's be very frank here we have a history of discrimination in our country They were slaves. They were not white. And they were then kept down by mainly southern, but not exclusively southern states. And so the Civil Rights Act of 1964 included a very important law that I personally used for most of my career, Title VII, which protects people from discrimination in employment. And then in 1968, the Civil Rights Act added this provision that we're going to talk about, Title VI. And that deals with all the the folks who have contracts with the government, government contractors, and anybody who does business with the government or receives money from the government, including all American universities, except for Hillsdale pretty much, and all school districts, and so forth. It's a pretty vast coverage of this statute, and the DOJ provides guidance on it. And so I don't want to bore people with too much legalese, but I think this is a really

important law and important development. And Supreme Court in 1971 issued a case called Duke Power versus Griggs, and this is about a janitor who allegedly was impacted negatively by some policies in hiring at Duke Power, and that started this concept of disparate impact. So, in other words, you no longer necessarily had to prove in your discrimination case, whatever the context was, that you are actually being the victim of intentional discrimination. You could simply prove that there's a hiring process or a policy, or there's certain tests that are required and I, because I'm African-American, I can't pass a task. We were going back and forth on that at the top of the show. And the line we were discussing, which I'm a big fan of, is disparate impact

seems to just, it literally makes everything illegal because nothing is actually equal except, I guess, true random chance, right? It really shifts the burden to, again, away from the plaintiff and to the employer to defend themselves. And when you use statistics, as Mark Twain famously said, about statistics and dam statistics, you know, you can chop and slice and dice them and prove anything. And I mean, we have statisticians here in the Civil Rights Division who you can give them a premise. They'll be able to come up with some formula to prove it. That's not how we should be running our businesses or our world. And so as to Title VI, when the United States gives federal funds, whether it's in a contract basis or grants, we have now issued a guidance that

says that this 50 years of discrimination against, frankly, law-abiding practices and businesses and recipients is over. It is harming a lot of people. It is wrong. And you should go back to having to prove intentional discrimination. By the way, there may be statistical cases to be brought there. So we're not banning the use of statistics. What we're saying is we're not going to let people use statistics to assume a default of discrimination, and people are going to have to prove their cases. And that includes the government sometimes. That includes me. If I have to bring a case against a school district or against a university, I have to use my evidence and prove the case, not just to have a default assumption of discrimination because that has hurt so many people in

our country. It has eroded merit-based hiring. It has put companies on the defensive. It has encouraged and now institutionalized quotas from every institution, including the boardrooms of America's largest corporations, because they're all government contractors. And so this is so damaging. And if we can just reverse that back to an assumption that Americans are good, generally speaking, we follow the law. If something bad happened to you, prove it with intentional discrimination evidence. I think that is really a great development for all Americans. Politico's framing of this is hilarious. DoJ rolls back anti-discrimination rules. Trump officials

say the requirement to consider racial impacts was itself a form of discrimination. It says the Justice Department on Tuesday moved to end longstanding civil rights policies that prohibit local governments and organizations that receive federal money from maintaining policies that disproportionately harm people of color. Why are you hurting people of color?

Repealing the government's 50-year-old disparate impact standard will make it harder to challenge potential bias in housing, criminal law, and employment. I mean, it's basically it frames it is you're ripping away this sacred shroud from the protection for disadvantaged people, Harmie. I'm clutching my imaginary pearls here, Andrew.

And the fact is that that's all fake news, okay? I've been a lawyer for over 30 years, and the last 20 years of it has been as a plaintiff's lawyer proving discrimination cases. You can absolutely do it without this unnecessary crutch. And we will continue to pursue and take action against discrimination here at the DOJ. I do it every day.

I just filed a lawsuit today, and we'll be filing some more later this week. And we're just leveling the playing field and returning it back. And I want to conclude by saying, when Congress passed the law, Title VI, nowhere in that law does it say disparate impact. That's not Congress's intent.

It was made up by a court, and we're getting rid of it here at the DOJ. Well, God bless you, Harmi, K. Dillon, assistant attorney general at the Civil Rights Division of the DOJ. Thank you so much for all your great work. You are crushing it, and we are so proud to have you on this show. Go get a job. If you're a lawyer out there, go work with Harmeet and help make the country a better place.

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Stop in the name of God while honoring the Sabbath will transform your life. I don't get anything out of this except for the satisfaction knowing that the good people out there across this country, really across the world, I bet, are enjoying Charlie's book. It was a labor of absolute love for Charlie to do this book. Chapter 7, the Sabbath improves your sleep. was passionate about sleep i want to share a little secret with you i hesitate to call it a superpower because that sounds grandiose but it's true it's incredibly powerful and available each and every one of us in our hyper hustle culture we venerate the sleepless i began noticing this in high school where

the best students seemed to operate on little sleeps caffeinating themselves through the day became a badge and honor to say they pulled an all night nighter that didn't change as i got older sleep is so good and he says charlie used to proudly sleep nine to ten hours a night he found a way to do it I don't know how he did that it decreases your attention span impairs your judgment slow reaction time

emotional volatility higher cortisol levels Charlie didn't want any of that so he slept a lot taking a Sabbath will help you do that all right Blake President Trump was in Pennsylvania in a Trump rally last year yeah he loves to have those rallies just have a rally from now and that it rechargees I don't know I don't know

I think there's a little more to it but yeah we'll talk about that but I think it was I think it's that we're going to have Rich Berris on and so we can talk about the polling saw some disturbing results out of Miami they have a Democrat mayor now first time in 30 years in Miami which is not a good sign we've we've struggled in some of these special elections things are you know let's just say in the end we are this is it comes down to who is winning elections and in control of things that the only way you can get what we just

talked about with disparate impact is by control in the civil rights office the only way you do that is by winning elections same thing throughout the country and And so it's unfortunate what happened in Miami. But, yeah, so President Trump, he was in Pennsylvania, holding a rally. And I want to open with, it's not as fiery as the others, but I like it because I think it's him taking some advice we gave. It shows the feedback loop is alive. So let's play 227. And I have no higher priority than making America affordable again.

That's what we're going to do. And again, they cause the high prices and we're bringing them down. It's a simple message. If I had one message tonight, you know, this. is being covered like all over the world this is crazy because i haven't made a speech a little while you know when you win when you win you say i can now rest so uh susy trump do you know susy trump sometimes referred to susy wild susy trump yeah so i liked that because we've gotten emails about this there was that clip that was taken out of context where he says affordability is a hoax and people thought oh he

doesn't care no what it was is he was saying i am fixing a problem created by the biden administration and going to bring prices down. That's all the messaging needs to be. And I think... He says it's pretty simple. He says, they messed it up. We're fixing it.

Real wages are going up. The price of gas nationally, the average is below $3 first time since before Joe Biden took office. And so, I mean, there are good signs. I mean, the price of Thanksgiving meal was down 25% according to the administration. I did not personally check on that. I'm sure mine was actually up because we had more people around this year. But the point is the President Trump's feedback loop is alive and well.

There's been some consternation. I mean, for those who are not aware, there are little rumors and rumblings behind the scenes that, you know, President Trump isn't on Twitter. He's not getting that those rallies are kind of work as a poll test for him, kind of a focus group, if you will. He says certain things, pays attention to what gets the biggest applause lines. And then he kind of like dials in his messaging that way. So if you're just dealing with issues of state all the time and you're kind of confined into your White House bubble, you're going to miss some of those feedback loops. So how do you make sure that President Trump is hearing from the base, especially in the wake of Charlie being gone? Charlie was a great conduit for that kind of stuff.

Well, this is proof that the message is getting through, that people are hearing, hey, affordability, affordability, affordability, domestic, domestic. So this is a whole affordability tour in Pennsylvania. I like it because I went as soon as President Trump during Thanksgiving announced he was doing a third world immigration moratorium, things, you know, I made a prediction that this was going to be one of his most popular policy planks of all time. And he's hitting this hard, 221. If you don't share our values, contribute to our economy and assimilate into our society that we don't want you in our country. We don't want you. I mean, Elon, Omar, and the people from Somalia, they hate our country. And they think we're stupid people, which actually, when they allow that to happen, they are.

That's headed by Governor Walsh, one of the dumber people around. No, but he's given, but think of it. He's given not like peanuts, billions. These are people that don't work in their own country. Their own countries are failure. They have no money. And yet they come into our country and steal tens of billions of dollars. How stupid are we to allow that to happen?

Just hammer away. Hammer away at this. And I actually, I'm... It really is the perfect thing because the left has boxed itself in ideologically, where they're, they're so radicalized on immigration. They can never admit that any group of immigrants is just not worth bringing into America. And this is, it's like the perfect specimen in terms of they cost a lot of money. So they're not contributing that much economically. They're very culturally hostile.

They're very clannish. They're not assimilating well. And they have this avatar who's so unappealing, Ilhan Omar. Oh, gosh, she's awful. She married her brother to get in here. I have to, the third world country real quick. This is funny. I hope they bleeped it.

Ride the dump button. 224. I've also announced a permanent pause on third world migration, including from hellholes like Afghanistan, Haiti, Somalia, and many other countries. I didn't say shit all you did. That's a good moment. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.