The Charlie Kirk Show - Europe's Immigration Playbook is Coming for America ft. Nate Morris

Episode Date: January 20, 2026

Kentucky's next Republican Senator Nate Morris joins the show to discuss Elon Musk's dramatic return to backing Republican candidates, and why the coming midterms are critical not just for America but for the future of Western civilization. Plus, Blake and Andrew examine how Virginia Democrats ran on a moderate platform, only to immediately flipped to one of the most far-left agendas in American history. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We got a bunch of people in Davos, lots of things talking about there. Is there a new global world order in the making? Canada, Macron, in France. Ursula von der Leyen, saying that there's a new financial system underway. So we're monitoring that. and we have to keep our eyes on that.

But more pressing on the home front is the topic of Virginia. We started on this yesterday. We did. We mentioned because we were talking about sanctuary cities and Abigail Spanberger takes over in Virginia, immediately throws out all cooperation with ice, which is going to put lives in danger. It's going to mean a lot more of those traumatic raids they say are so evil

because it's way easier to arrest. child rapists, robbers, murderers, et cetera, if you're just able to pick them up at a jail. But they're not going to do that. But they also have a trifecta in Virginia. So in addition to their Democrat governor, they have a Democrat state. Do they have some? The House of Delegates. They have to everyone have their custom.

Mind you, this is a state that Kamala Harris won by a mere six points. Six points. No, but listen, this is not California. this is not even New York. This is not, this is six points. So a relatively, I mean, Arizona was won by six points, basically, a little less than six points. And Virginia, what's interesting about the Virginia experience right now is that they've been in power for a matter of days. And one day, basically.

The litany of progressive causes, wish list items, the in lockstep with zero pushback. So they ran... That they have advanced is truly stunning. People, so as it was pointed out, they ran in, if you look at October 2025, as election nears, Democrats campaign on high utility bills, energy plans. So their campaign was electricity prices are too high. Vote for Democrats. We have a great track record on that, I guess, was their claim.

But what they're now doing, they're in the legislature and they're introducing bills. Not all of these will pass, but it's a very good insight into what their agenda is generally. Some of that people have heard about already. They want to change their house map to be 10 to 1. We also have, let's see, we have a bill to reduce the punishments for robbery offenses and it will also reclassify some forms of robbery, so they are no longer violent crimes, even if they use violent coercion on people. So not a violent crime, which means much lower penalties.

They want to get rid of Virginia's Republican version of. criminal justice where three violent crimes can get you life in prison. We have a bill to ban the hand counting of ballots if they are machine readable. Just specifically has to be machine counted. We have a bill to put out home child-based health care grants. Oh, I wonder where they got that idea. There won't be any fraud in that at all. Rest assured, listen to this one.

Democrats in Virginia have introduced a bill that discriminates against white men in government. contracting for discretionary contracts under $100,000 white men are barred from even being considered unless there's literally no competition. And even then, this bill allows agencies to award contracts to women or minority-owned firms that are 5% more expensive than a bid from a business owned by a white man. Yeah, they set a statewide explicit quota goal of having 42% of contracts go to certified small, swam businesses. I think that is women and minority-owned businesses. and they basically have the goal of getting it up to 42% and so they have to increase the percent

by 3% a year until they reach it and yeah so the order is give out contracts to people based on the race on the sex of the owner even if they cost taxpayers more even if it's less able to supply that we already know we know from decades of experience how this works one of the most common ways people fill this is they just create a company

and all it does is buy from a better, let's be frank, a better white male owned company. They jack up the price by the amount they're allowed to get away with and they just take that cut as their profit. It's their profit. It's pure arbitrage. Well, and I don't know if anybody else noticed this, but yesterday was MLK Day.

And it was as if the, it was used as a giant excuse for Libs just to say crazy things. It was, it was anti-white male. it was anti-meritocracy. It was pure fiction in many regards. But it became like this rallying point. I think they spelled blood in the water. And there's a tendency to overreact to Trump-era politics. Right. We saw this with the border. President Trump wanted to build the wall. It was a big talking point. It was a big controversy in Trump 1.0. So what did Dems do as soon as Biden gets in power? Completely opens the border, undoes everything that was the president, President, President, Trump administration had done in in 45. And then you get 10 to 15 million illegals flooding the border. Yeah. And you get this same pattern on repeat now in Virginia.

And it is a precursor of what will happen to the country if we lose power in the midterms. If we, God forbid, lose power in 2028. It's a real pattern that has to be recognized. And we have to remind people of it over and over, which is there's much more of a gap between, I believe, what a Republican base might want and what a Republican majority will in practice do. Frankly, a lot of our guys flake on stuff in an annoying way. Of course.

So you're not going to get the maximal conservative dream plan anytime Republicans get a trifecta in a state. It just doesn't happen. Whereas with Democrats, they very much have this set of let's go get Abigail Spanberger and she, okay, she worked for the CIA. We can't tell you what she did, but it was probably really boring, and she looks nice and respectable. Or not respectful. You'll run Tim Walls, who's just your social science teacher.

Hicklib. Yeah, Hicklib, white guy. But then what they are going to reliably pass at the state level is basically, I don't know, insane gay race Marxism or whatever label you want to use for it. It's a confluence between beta males and Karens, and they use the fronts of the fronts of, these soft, progressive white, you know, sort of presentable libs like Spanberger here. And then they go full Marxism. This is a tweet from Cernovich. I thought it boiled it down really well, 277. Democrats won Virginia and are going full Marxist. Taxes at California levels, banning white men from government contracts, surveillance tech cameras to issue tickets, internet voting, gun bans.

There is no such thing as a moderate Democrat. Or as an example. So Virginia had a Republican Trifecta for a while. They, after Dobbs, they did not pass a total abortion ban in the state of Virginia. But what they did just the Virginia Senate is passing right now is they're voting to put out a constitutional amendment that would be

abortion until birth as a constitutional right in Virginia. They're going to go for the absolute maximalist position. Exactly. And they do it without flinching, without thinking, they just go. And all of this stuff was pre-planned. It was pre-packaged.

It was the plan all along. And to Blake's point earlier, what did they run on? They ran on utility rates. They ran on utility bills. That's what they told the public. And then they go in there and they go full Marxist. That is the insidious, unyielding force that we are up against, that we are fighting. I didn't even know about this one.

Another Virginia Democrat introduced a bill. It would make it a crime to approach within eight feet of a person who is within 40 feet of an abortion clinic. Jeez. Yeah, and by the way, yesterday I got all these texts from like some of my, you know, people that I wouldn't even call some of them friends, but they're libs going like, how was this a face act violation with Don LeMond going? And yes, we call him Don LeMont. It's Don Lemon. I got a bunch of notes on that. Don LeMond.

It's just a fun way to make fun of him. They clearly were not watching Tucker Carlson in 2018. Yeah, exactly. But Don LeMond goes into, you know, a church. He is an activist. He kissed the organizer. There's video footage of that. And he said, thank you for your service.

He was not an independent journalist. He was an activist. And I get all these, oh, I wasn't a FAS Act violation. Oh, yeah, well, the Virginia Democrats are about to, you know, criminalize going within eight feet of a activist fighting abortion. If you're stressed about getting out of debt, it's go time. Seriously, this is one of those moments where timing actually matters. Done with debt is one of the best I've seen at navigating debt relief. 2025 was a record year.

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You've got to think about that. These are three states that if you win, you don't even need the blue wall anymore. You don't need Michigan, Pennsylvania. You don't need Wisconsin. That is the red wall. That exactly. There's the graphic. So if you go to tpaction.com forward slash careers,

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zombie horde it's like some for it's like lava flowing towards you or something right it is a brain rot that 10 and it infects the left in a very collectivist hive-minded way in which they all act in lockstep and it's interesting because our side is we are a rowdy bunch. We're independent thinkers. That's very, very true. But just yesterday, this is what's crazy. You have AG Eric Holder accusing Trump administration of trying to re-segregate America. You had Jim Clyburn going on the view claiming Republicans are trying to bring back slavery. And you had Pam Greer says she had to close her eyes as a kid in Ohio to avoid seeing blacks hung in trees. There's a lot of it. Which is false. But I think the absolute wildest thing was actually the clip from Michelle Obama. Just very casually just comes out and says, I try to avoid buying products from people who are from the race that I don't like, which is white people. Let's play 287.

If I hear of someone who's fashion that I like and I know that they're a person of color, I try to make it a point. But the clothes have to be available. You know, I think we can all do some work to think about that balance in our wardrobes. You know, what does our closet look like? like and who's in it? Who are we supporting in it? Right. You know, and I think if you have the money to buy Chanel, then you have the money to buy everybody. Right. And so let us be mindful, I think, would be my advice. Yeah. I'll confess, I would have never known the race of any person

who's designed any clothing item I wear. Not the least because I'm not sure I know the brand of any clothing item that I wear. And by the way, that's a group of wealthy black women. women sitting around a table. You get moaning about how racist America is. When they are in, let's just be frank, the country that is the best for people of African descent anywhere in the world. Correct. Period. Did you know that African American test scores in America are higher than they are in Africa?

Oh, yeah. As low as they are. Or in other countries with a large amount, the Caribbean, Brazil, so on. They are higher here than any other country. And by the way, that's true for Hispanics. Hispanic Americans have higher test scores than just about any other country in the world. That's the same for Asian Americans, save for like Hong Kong. Hong Kong, I guess.

Hong Kong's a city. Hong Kong's a country. Yeah, it's sort of its own thing. But I think there's like one standout. We're a very talented country that gets a lot out of all the people who live here. Yes. And yet, yesterday became a rallying point for them to bemoan, criticize, and delegitimize America. It's funny. It's funny why that is.

Where do you think this great hatred originates? On a day where it's a holiday to celebrate a famous black America. That America was so racist that it gave an entire day to a black American. That is the day that has become a rallying point to bemoan America. Make it make sense. I just found it really offensive. And then it didn't let them kind of bash America enough. So we had to create another holiday in June to try to out-compete the,

The 4th of July. Right. So that's how ridiculous it's all become. It's all become a parody of itself. And I just have to play this Pam Greer clip really quick because it's so annoying to me, 269. You faced a lot of racism growing up in Columbus, Ohio. How did that shape you? Well, we would go from, you know, tree, shade to shade to get back to the apartment.

My brother and I and my mom with bags. And my mom would go, don't. Don't look, don't look. She'd pull us away. Because there is someone hanging from a tree. And they have a memorial for it now where you can see where people were and left. And it triggers me today. Pam Greer was born in 1949 and the last lynching

that was ever recorded in Ohio was 1911. But there really weren't that many lynchings. I'm just going to be honest. They were horrendous. were several thousand but it's you know as we oh well we'll have to get into that one with nate morris but the demand for hate in america vastly outstrips supply and it has very four decades it just goes unchallenged on the view think about it every single dollar you spend is either supporting your values or working against them in today's economy where you

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Big, huge, earth-shattering sense of, send a shockwave through the political. world this week. Elon Musk has pledged $10 million to Nate Morris's campaign to reclaim a Senate seat for a staunch pro-America, America-America-first candidate in that state. And he's joining us now. Nate Morris, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Oh, it's great to be with you both. Thank you for having me. Yeah. Well, it's interesting because Nate, Charlie was really close with Elon and had a big belief in Elon, even when Elon and Trump had a falling out. He famously now called his shot when it happened. He said, I predict Elon and President Trump are going to be having dinner by Christmas at the White House. That came true. And part of it happened at Charlie's Memorial, of course. He was a big believer in Elon.

And now Elon has come to your side and is pledging $10 million to support for you. And Charlie endorsed you. So it's just kind of full circle moment for us here on the show to watch this happen. Tell us what it means and how did this transpire? Yeah, you know, Elon is the great visionary of our time. I mean, we're going to be talking about Elon for hundreds of years, if not thousands of years, and what he's done for humanity. And we had a terrific meeting. I think he was very animated by the way that we've been contrasting against Mitch McConnell,

his record. And obviously, Elon appreciated my entrepreneurial and business background. And I don't think he's a fan of career politician. and he knows that we've got to get change in Washington. And we've got to get so tough, particularly on immigration. And I think these were the things that... Sorry to interrupt, Nate. I just have a very...

I'm very curious about this, because one of my favorite parts of your platform is that you're calling for an immigration moratorium. I think if we get 10, 15 guys in the Senate on our side and we maintain control, this is actually something that really could be done. We just have to get this critical mass in. And Blake and I have talked about it.

It's like the switch, the one switch that fixes so much that is ailing and troubling. Just fix everything. Just stop the flood. Yeah. If we get this one issue right, you got to get voter ID, same day voting, all that stuff's really important. A lot of guys are working on the Safe Act. But I'm curious because Elon in the past, I remember this clip during the Biden flood of immigrants. He went down to visit the border himself and he was appalled.

But he made this comment saying, like, well, I still want all this legal immigration. I just want to cut off all this stuff. is crazy. But you and I are more hardline than this. And I'm curious how that conversation with with. You know, I think Elon, you know, he talked about Western civilization in our meeting. And I think that this is a fight for Western civilization. And we have been ingesting people from the third world, people from all over the world that wish to do us harm. And Andrew, you know, we can't bring in people that wish to do us harm and think that we're going to get a good result. And we, you know, look at this Somali situation. I mean,

What an absolute and utter disgrace. And they have been ripping us off. They've been taking advantage of America's compassionate system. They come over here illegally. They get on our roles. And Democrats love it because they know this is the only way that they're going to win elections is they've got to flood us with all this illegal population so they can change the composite of our country to go out and win elections. And I think Elon gets that. And I think our immigration moratorium, this has got to happen to save the country. And that's why I've been so forceful. And Andrew, you may remember a lot of people said, oh, this is an extreme position. You know, this is too hard right. This is too far. Let me tell you, this is a moderate position today. This is an absolute moderate position given what's happened in our

country is that this should have been done a long time ago. And just because we're America, doesn't mean we have to let everybody in our country. And it is a pleasure. It is a privilege. it is the absolute greatest honor in the world to be an American citizen. And we can't give that out like Mardi Gras beats. I mean, this has been crazy what we've done. And all these Democrats and all these rhino Republicans who have allowed this nonsense to go on, they should be ashamed of themselves for letting our country get into the place that it's in today. Yeah, I mean, I completely agree.

And Blake, I would love for you to expound on this. But there is something that happens to a people where you flood the country. with foreigners. And then it becomes an erasure of our own civilization, of our own culture. And you stop having kids, fertility rates drop, the sense of ownership in their culture. You kind of become a defeated people. And there are examples of that in history where it's just when a culture, it loses its vitality, loses its sense of the future, and it just sort of, it falls apart.

It's because you don't look around and see that this is your culture anymore, that you control it, that you own it, that you have your own agency over the future, of its direction because you it sort of you feel like a foreigner in your own home and there's something I think weird and you've seen this in historical models as well when you hit about 14 15 percent foreign born or immigrant of the total population you saw this in like the 1920s early 20s when they instituted massive immigration reforms then something happens you know and and and I think people have to reclaim a sense of American identity of American culture and agency over the future of their country. I think that's what's happening here.

And I think at a deeper level, MAGA is this sort of cry to regain and reconstitute an American identity that is like what we remember growing up, like what we had when we were kids. And so, I mean, I'm just, I'm thrilled that Elon got behind you in this way. And I want you to reflect on kind of some of these stances that, you know, that you have, but what we're seeing in Minnesota as well, which I believe is an existential challenge to the Trump administration about the legitimacy of federal law. Can you weigh in on what's happening in Minneapolis, Minnesota more broadly? Yeah, and it's not surprising. I mean, you have people like Tim Walls and that mayor, that fry guy. I mean, you have those people in charge there. I mean, what do you expect to get? I mean,

these people, they have just let these folks run rough shot over them in Minnesota, take advantage of them, get on the system, milk the system, commit all this fraud and did nothing about it. And the Democrats put this guy on their ticket. I mean, can you believe that? And they had to know this stuff was going on. I mean, it's so blatantly obvious. And, Andrew, I think that when we get into the particulars of this, we're going to find all throughout the country that all these migrant populations that have come into places like California, Texas, Florida, you name it, even here in Kentucky, there's fraud underneath every bit of that. And this has been a scam, the Democrats and people have been running to not only flood our system with changing population, but also to get rich and to have these get rich schemes. I mean, gosh, I mean, look at this daycare system.

I mean, what an absolute and utter disgrace. Millions of dollars to start a daycare when we got people in Kentucky that are trying to bust it, trying to make a living, trying to put food on the table, and can't even buy groceries. And we got Somalis up there getting rich off the daycare system. I mean, what is wrong with this picture? And this stuff's got to stop once and for all. You know, I just talked to my buddy James Comer the other day. And he said, Nate, he said, we're going to haul him before oversight. He said, and you're going to find this is going to be the greatest fraud in the history of America.

And I believe it. And I'm so glad that President Trump is going to get tough and make sure all these people are held accountable. Yeah, Nate, it really is. It's just, I think the idiom that Charlie would use, it's like America is just treated like a giant. pile of money to be looted. Like, you busted into the treasury of Babylon and just grab your pile of gold before it's all gone.

And it's that we give all of that away. We give away the wealth of our country. And we give away our citizenship, the right to be here. That's the entire idea with the moratorium. It's that we treat American citizenship like it's worth nothing. And if we really believe America's great, surely we should treat it like it as valuable. Foreigners clearly recognize that it's valuable. It's interesting because even at like Amfest, our big events, right?

I mean, we'd love to give those tickets away for free. It's not about the money. It isn't. We want to create these rallying points. But we found is if you don't charge anything, people take it for granted. They don't show up. They don't take it seriously. You have to charge something.

And the same concept could be applied to citizenship. When you make it so cheap and so easy and so flimsy, people degrade it, they spit on it, they desecrate it. And we have to make it expensive again. We have to make it precious again. You know, there's not really a question in there, Nate, but I, but I'd love for you to respond to that. And tell us, give us a sense of where your race is at now. What is changing? Yeah.

Because you've been slowly building in the polls this whole time against a really formidable opponent. It's not Mitch McConnell, but it's the machine that he's left, that he's leaving in, in that state. Yeah. And Andrew, I'll just first say, everybody listening here, we all need to take a look at what, what's happened in Europe. You know, if you want to get a preview for what the, the play that the Democrats are running, look what's happened to the United Kingdom. I mean, my dear friend, Vice President J.D. Vance said that the U.K. will be the first nation that's Islamic with a nuclear weapon in the next decade. Now, think about that. Now, all this stuff that's happening over in Europe, this stuff is all coming here. And this is the same

playbook that was run over there so the Brits could lose their country. It's coming here to the United States in a big way. And that's why we've got to get so, so tough. And it's shameful what's happen to Europe, but we cannot let that happen here in the United States. You know, as far as this race goes, you know, I'm an outsider. I'm a business guy. I've never run for office before. You know, I came in. I started out unknown to the voters of Kentucky because I've never been in politics. My two opponents, they've made careers out of politics. You know, somebody like Andy Barr has almost been in politics for two decades. And we were up against the McConnell machine. And they were doing everything that they can to make sure that McConnell's cronies, his lobbyists, his infrastructure,

that they've got a horse to ride for another 40 years. And this is what this race is all about. And Charlie saw that. He saw the infrastructure that we were going to be up against. Well, we know. Yeah, we're watching closely, Nate, and we got your back 100%. We'll have you on again soon. We'll talk to you soon. Thanks so much. Great to be with you guys. This is Lane Schoenberger, Chief Investment Officer and founding partner of Y-R-R-R-R-R-R-E-Fi. It has been an honor and a privilege to partner with Turning Point and for Charlie to endorse us. His endorsement means the world to us, and we look forward to continuing our partnership with Turning Point for years to come. Now, hear Charlie in his own words tell you about Y-R-R-R-R-E-F-Y-F-I.

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and we're going to turn our attention to what's happening at Davos. Now, there is a very, very interesting thing that we are watching happen, a phenomenon. And there's multiple pieces to this thread that you could pull, right this and and you you will you will get to something that's happening so basically you've got the

greenland contention that's happening denmark's not happy with us nato is you know some of our nato partners are not happy with the pressure campaign that trump is pushing to acquire greenland so then all these davos leaders go over there and they're kind of saying hey we love you the united states but what you're doing is wrong we made a deal you can't add you can't add news tariffs on top of a deal that was already made. And then you've got guys like Macron who are messaging him behind the scenes and then it's not behind the scenes.

Well, but then he goes, he's wearing sunglasses for some reason. I don't understand this, but let's play this clip. It's a little hard to understand because of his accent, but we'll break it down on the other side, 290.

China is welcome, but what we need is more Chinese foreign-dite investment in Europe in some key sectors to contribute to our growth, to transfer some technologies. and not just to export towards Europe some devices or producers or products, which sometimes don't have the same standards or are much more subsidized as the one being produced in Europe.

So you pair this with what's happening in Canada. So you got Carney that basically goes, travels over to the CCP, they roll out the red carpet forum, Brave New Era, New World Order. China is being welcomed in by the same act. that Trump is challenging. So Trump is shaking up everything. And now they're basically trying to fight back and say, well, we've had enough of the tariffs. We've had enough of the bowling. We've had enough of the Greenland stuff. So you've got Carney welcoming the CP. And you got French President Macron, and I'll translate, he said, China is welcome. And he's asking, instead of just

exports that have different standards, lower standards, and are subsidized from China, we want you to invest in Europe. That's a huge thing to invite foreign direct investment in Europe. With the Greenland thing, an argument that's been made in support of it is basically saying Europe are their vassals of the United States. They're just clients of the United States. And Europe is, they are actually quite aware that they've put themselves in a bad spot. They've underinvested in their military for a long time. They've messed up their own industry and manufacturing. Germany. Case in point. They've really screwed things up. And they actually are kind of aware of this. They were very

aware of it during trade negotiations and they kind of recognize they're in a weak position here. But one thing that they can point out is they can say, okay, we are basically vassals of the United States, but we could in fact go be vassals of somebody else and use that as our way to come back. And I think

it is worth thinking about that. That in the end we are stronger than Europe. And Europe has been a free rider on this. And our goal needs to be, I think, to, and this is mentioned in our own, and President Trump's national security strategy that came out a few months ago, the goal needs to be that Europe has to take more responsibility for itself, that we want to recultivate Europe as a viable, as more of an ally rather than just a freeloader.

And that's important for any number of reasons. We talk about Islamization of the West so often on the show, because it does matter. It really does matter to all of us if Britain, the birthplace of all the liberties that we care about, the birthplace ultimately, the mother country of this one, if it becomes this Islamic dump. And it matters the same way if France goes that way, if Germany goes that way, if Denmark goes that way. And what we want is we want them to be robust. We want them to have real militaries. We want them to have to not be having replacement migration. We want them to have real economies

Because we do ultimately, even if they're Annoyingly liberal in a lot of ways We'd prefer to work with them, I think, over China Like a completely alien Culture, a completely alien mode of government One that is far more hostile to human freedom One that is far more hostile to religion and Christianity. Hostile to America.

Hostile to America. That has a lot of grievances with us. and I just think we should be aware of that and we have to think about that with Canada as well. Greenland really is important to our national security, but it's also important to our national security if Canada, I think the largest economy in the Americas after us, if they're suddenly just...

Or our largest, yeah. If they're deciding to align with China because they decide they're just mad at us. Yeah, so here's the question. Is this saber rattling? Is this a warning? Is this a warning shot? Or do they really mean it?

and I think that the truth will only bear out in the coming years. I mean, we're going to have to watch to see, you know, if Macron really does want Chinese investment. You've got to believe that every single chip, every single product will become a tool of espionage in that country, a tool of control. And you be careful what you wish for, France, Canada, the UN, NATO. These people, they are cruel masters. China will be cruel masters and they will extract their pound of flesh. We have been allowing Europe to freeload off of us for decades and decades. Basically, the post-World War II order is one giant story of Europe freeloading off of us.

But they've been useful allies at times as well. They've also been complicit in a censorship industrial complex. They've used NATO to try and squash populist uprisings across the Western world, which is not okay. they've used I think they've lost sight of some of their original ideals such as free speech freedom of expression UK is ground zero for that there are real problems in the NATO alliance the question is can you create something better I don't I think we can well out you can you reform it or do you have to reconstitute it entirely but that's the thing I think one thing to worry about is America does have a lot of strengths that derive from how dominant we were for nearly a century at this point that after World War II

we created a financial system that centers around the United States. We created a defense system that centers around the United States and we created a trade system that centered around the United States. And I think if you were creating any of those things from scratch today,

we would not be as powerful in that as we basically are by virtue of inertia. So if you inspire the Europeans to, even if they're just throwing a temper tantrum, they throw a temper tantrum and they drift away from the dollar or they drift away from trade with the United States, it will be harder to reconstitute that than it is to maintain it. That's a classic conservative principle. It's easier to maintain things than it is to build them. Yeah, and you do have to look at the post-World War II order as a snapshot in time.

It was a confluence of so many different variables coming together. America was largely industrialized, unscathed in many ways on the home front. Europe had to rebuild. We had a 10-year head start, maybe a 15-year head start on the rest of the world, and it entrenched us as the economic superpower. And it would be harder to rebuild that now, to reconstitute it. We will see what happens and we will watch it closely. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.