The Charlie Kirk Show - Freedom Built To Last Aftermath + AMA 279
Episode Date: September 11, 2026It's been 25 years since 9/11, and one day since Charlie's memorial at the UVU campus. Sen. Rick Scott and Scott Jennings join in the first hour, and then Jobob and Alex Clark join in for an extra-len...gth AMA hour, answering questions about Charlie's travels and pet peeves and fielding calls and emails about him from the audience. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic.
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It is 9-11, 2026, 25-year anniversary of a horrific day in American history. And we honor the fallen.
We have this beautiful flag here, flag of honor. I hadn't seen that time now. And it's,
got all the names of those who perished in the terrorist attacks of 9-11.
Now and forever, it will represent their immortality.
We shall never forget them.
It's what the flag reads.
So we have it hanging under Charlie's beautiful image there.
And it's just...
They're links together now.
It's linked together.
Yeah.
I'll never forget when Charlie died on 9-10 and President Trump went to commemorate 9-11 the next day.
It felt like two 9-11s back to back-to-back.
And so kind of a rough spot in the calendar, to say the least.
Anyways, we honor them and we remember them and we will not forget them.
And here to join us right at the top of the show is a great friend and somebody that has made it a point to bring up Charlie at every single speech he gives.
He's told me this privately and I'm grateful to him for that.
And that is Scott Jennings.
So welcome.
Welcome back, Scott.
Good to see you, my friend.
Hey, Andrew, good to see you.
Thanks for having me on today.
I'm grateful for your time, Scott.
I kept thinking about you yesterday as I saw the tributes come in to Charlie.
You know, there were so many beautiful tributes, hundreds of them actually.
And, you know, you have told me privately that you brought Charlie up at every speech that you gave across the country.
And I have the clip of you the night that Charlie was killed on CNN.
And it's a powerful moment.
and it hurts to watch.
But maybe just explain why you do that.
And what you saw yesterday, what today means,
it's a terrible cluster on the calendar, I have to say.
Yeah, I was thinking back to what happened last year.
I was on the radio when I found out Charlie got shot,
and we reported that to the audience.
And then the show ended, the radio show ended,
and I went over to CNN,
and by the time I'd gotten over there,
it was just about the time we found out Charlie had.
died. And in that period, I was thinking about the CNN audience, actually. And, you know, a lot of those
folks probably didn't know Charlie Kerr or everything they'd ever heard about Charlie was negative.
You know, I mean, as you know, as you well know, so many people had slandered Charlie. They had said
things that weren't true. They had made up quotes. They had, you know, they'd done all sorts of
things to Charlie. And I was sort of balancing two things. One, I wanted to tell that audience,
who he was and what he actually stood for, not the caricature that had been created.
And number two, I also wanted to tell that audience how it felt to be a conservative walking around
in the world. I mean, we had obviously seen what they tried to do to President Trump. He barely
survived an assassination. Charlie had been assassinated. And I don't know how you guys felt that
day about this particular issue, but I said on TV, it didn't feel safe to be a conservative
walking around America, given how radically violent so many people on the left had become.
So I was trying to do two things that day, Andrew, which was convey a positive message about what Charlie
meant to so many conservatives, particularly young conservatives and particularly young men,
and also to convey some emotions about how conservatives were feeling about their own safety
in our political ecosystem.
Let's go ahead and play that clip. It touches me still to watch it.
SOT 63.
Well, Charlie was one of the most unique and special people
in the conservative movement today.
What he was able to build, the people he was able to organize,
was just so large and powerful.
He was able to convince people to get involved in politics
that might not have otherwise done so.
And you look at what he did on these campuses
and these public events.
Thousands of people were showing up
Not for a rock concert, not for a sporting event, but for American politics.
He inspired all these kids to be involved in their country.
This is unequivocally a good legacy.
He was also a godly person.
He spoke about his faith openly.
He was unapologetic about his views.
It was beautiful, well, I don't know how he kept it together.
I was a total mess in those days especially.
But, you know, last night was actually, I think, kind of powerful as well
because we had Charlie's name evoked time and time again at the RNC,
whether it was RFK, Don Jr., J.D. Vance, Caroline Levitt.
They all paid homage to Charlie.
And then we had dozens of staff, hundreds of students at the RNC,
at the RNC, we had over 5,000 people at our Freedom Built to Last event where we were reclaiming
the UVU campus. We had Glenn Beck and Michael Knowles and Frank Turrick and so many others.
Mikey McCoy was there and a beautiful and a packed house over 5,000. And by the way,
there was all these rumors of protesters. They didn't show up, Scott. It was like maybe a few of them,
but that was it. It was just totally peaceful, totally respectful. And then we had hundreds of people
here at campus honoring him here as well. I mean, it was, I was really proud of the team and proud
of the way the day went off. Yeah, I was in Dallas for the last couple of days myself. And, you know,
everybody wanted to talk about Charlie and all those Republicans that had come from around the
country. Everybody wanted to tell their Charlie story. Everybody wanted to show you their picture
with Charlie. Had people pulling out their phones, oh, here's my picture. And it was, it was incredibly
sad, but at the same time, it was incredibly uplifting for all these people to be remembering
what an impact he had on their lives. A lot of what the general public knows about Charlie is the
outward-facing stuff. What I was struck by in some of the stories and remembrances I was hearing
just in the hall were people who were saying, oh, you know, I met Charlie once, and he took the time
to talk to me for a few minutes, and he was clearly very kind and generous with his own time. And
had, you know, for all those people that were in that hole, I was thinking to myself,
what percentage of these people did Charlie Kirk actually shake hands with, me, talk to,
and impress upon them in some way? I mean, it seemed like a huge number, to be honest.
And it tells you a lot about who Charlie was as a person. That's such a good point, Scott.
I couldn't believe it when I was looking on social media yesterday, all the pictures of Charlie
with all these people throughout the years. I mean, basically he, he, you know, brushed up against
essentially everybody in the conservative movement.
I don't think that's saying too much.
Almost everybody he had an experience with.
He touched them.
He took a picture with them.
He spoke to them.
And those who have left us, Rush Limbaugh, you know, you think about some of the folks that have left us too soon.
He knew them too.
He was this generational bridge that just, you know.
He was a bridge across generations.
He was also a bridge across different wings of the party.
he was a bridge between the grassroots and elected officials.
He did play this really interesting role in bringing people together,
and he was also such an inspiration to these young people.
I have four sons, as you know, and as this was coming,
one of them asked me the other day.
They said, can you send me that picture of you and Charlie again?
I wanted to see that, and he had told me he had been watching some of Charlie's videos,
and so I sent it to him via text,
And it caused me to go back in to that day that we had together there in Colorado.
And I was telling my son, you know, what they were most excited about,
what Charlie and Andrew were talking to me about that day was not the college campuses.
It was the high school stuff, the chapters that TPUSA was forming on high schools
and building this next generation of conservative activists.
And so anyway, this was an emotional week for me because of Charlie 9-11, you know,
I work for President Bush.
everything going on in our world. It's been emotional for us in the Jennings household. I'm glad to
share some time with you on it today, Andrew. Charlie once said that although his day job was politics,
politics was only the second most important thing. The first and the most important thing,
in his words, was winning souls for Jesus Christ. That was last night, Mikey McCoy,
speaking to over 5,000 people at our Freedom Built to Last event. It was amazing. I was so,
so blown away how packed they had to keep expanding the room size it was it was very special and i'm
grateful to all of you who showed up i'm grateful to glenbeck michael knolls frank turrick mikey mccoy
caleb chillcutt uh i'm forgetting somebody else uh anyways the folks that came out and spoke
and and reclaim that camp as a powerful moment uh also want to make a note i guess for some of you
the stream yesterday we had people don't understand i
an eighth of Phoenix's internet went down yesterday.
Like they called it a ring, not a line.
So we come to the office with all these plans,
the vice president, Don Jr.,
big three hour megastream honoring Charlie,
and our internet is down.
So the team's throwing up Starlinks all over the place.
Imagine if we just didn't have Starlink.
We would have been 100% host.
This happened to us once before.
And so we got all these Starlink's backup.
So they're throwing them up and all this stuff.
We were just lucky to get a show off yesterday.
But apparently it caused a glitch in some of the,
audio for some of you who've downloaded. So we've re-uploaded the entire stream. So if you missed it or
you're having audio issues, go check it out there. It's also on our podcast, so check it out there.
Scott Jennings joins us, great American, great patriot. And somebody that got close to Charlie,
really in the last year of his life and got to see Charlie kind of at the zenith of his powers
in so many different ways. You know, we talk a lot about, you know, the horseshoe people, as I call him.
I think it's a total op.
I think it's just all, you know, it's sort of like this, oh, we all hate Israel together.
So let's form a coalition with like baby killers and open borders, radicals and communists.
Okay, cool.
Got it.
Got it.
I see where your priorities are.
But Charlie, you know, it's been observed, Scott, that he was this glue within the conservative space and this bridge.
He played this connective tissue, this glue role that a lot of people didn't realize until afterwards.
assess the state of the current conservative movement, what the RNC has done to kind of propel us.
I mean, I'm hearing rumors that the Senate Leadership Fund is about to pour a bunch of money in Texas.
God bless them for that.
You know, 30,000 foot for me, Scott Jennings.
Well, I hope that the conservative movement and the Republicans are looking at the existential threat to our country as a moment that we have to unify.
And look, first of all, I'm there around 26 years, Republican politics.
There's always been fractures in the party.
There's always been people who have disagreements over this or that.
I think to me, the principal glue and Charlie well knew this today is that we're not facing
normal political opponents right now.
We're facing people who fundamentally hate America.
They want to rip out the American experiment route and branch.
The Democratic Party is now far more favorable to socialism than they are to capitalism.
You look at the patriotism polling that Gallup puts out.
Very few Democrats are extremely proud to be a.
Americans. Virtually every Republican, no matter their strife or their pedigree, is proud to be
an American. And that number never changes. Republicans have been proud to be Americans for as long as
I've been involved, and it's the Democratic number that's fallen off the table over the last few years.
These are not normal political opponents. They seek to run a country they hate. They seek to run a
country that they're not very proud of. And you can see where that would lead you. So my view is
this, you're going to have some disagreements in the tent. That's normal. But you can never disagree on the
of defeating the actual political enemy here. And to the extent you let those disagreements get in the way,
that's a problem. I think Charlie well understood that. And that's why his being a glue in the party was so
important because he could keep people focused. Okay, we can have disagreements amongst ourselves,
but when it's time to focus on the fight, we all focus on the fight together. And I just hope his legacy
is one of us being able to remember that, whether it's this year or 2028, we're not facing normal
political opponents anymore. And the United States of America continues to face global enemies
like radical Islamic terrorism and other things that would love to take advantage of internal
political division, particularly among the people who, you know, here to four have been able to
clearly identify the problem. Well, yeah. I mean, if you, so if you are a young male that
feels disenchanted because of the war in Iran or whatever, know that you're getting played.
there are actually ops from China, there are ops from Iran, there's ops from Russia,
there are ops from everywhere, okay, from the Middle East, that want to use the wedge issues
to exploit a chasm and to get you to align with people that think that your baby should be
able to be murdered right up until conception. Oh, maybe even after, maybe even up into the first year,
well, just to criminalize any infanticide for the first year. That's what you're dealing with.
So, you know, by the way, another thing I'd love to ask these people,
It's like, do you consider the left to be anti-Christian?
Do you consider yourself to be a Christian?
If so, why would you ever align with them?
Why would you ever give them a foothold in power?
We cannot let this happen.
And so, Scott, your message to young men.
You got young men in your household.
What is your message to them?
Because that was the group that followed Charlie into the breach,
that were willing to follow him and take his word,
and they've become disenchanted.
That's what the polling says.
I don't know that I fully believe it for what it's worth.
I think it's a tough cohort to pull.
But use this.
We've got two minutes here.
Rally the troops.
What's your message to young men in this country?
You live and you were born in the greatest country ever devised.
You're going to have a lot of people coming at you every day.
And it's misinformation and it's propaganda and it's designed to turn you against your own country.
But you're going to have a lot of people coming at you every day trying to tell you that America is not good.
That we're a force for bad in the world, not good.
that somehow you live in this apocalyptic hellscape,
they're trying to turn you against your own country.
Do not believe in this.
Some of it is a foreign op and some of it is internal.
You listen to what the Democrats and these liberals, these progressives,
these socialists, these radicals have to say today.
It's almost all designed to turn you against your own country.
Just remember, you live in a good country that protects your free speech,
that can tell the difference between right and wrong,
that typically sides with civilization over barbarism
and that treats common sense like a virtue and not a vice.
And all these people coming at you,
telling you these are wrong things,
telling you that the nuclear family is oppressive.
If they're coming at you with these messages,
just remember, it's an op,
and it's an op designed to destroy the United States of America
from the inside out.
They're trying to get you to participate in it.
Do not fall for it.
Fight for your country.
Fight for the idea that you live in the greatest country
that's ever been devised.
It is divinely inspired.
Fight for your own family.
They're trying to take things away from you.
They'll tell you things will be free.
The thing they won't tell you is.
The only thing that won't be free is you.
Fight for this country.
Make it what you want it to be and make it what our founders intended to be,
not what some foreign operative or some America hating radical wants to do to it.
Fight for what you know is right.
And ultimately, that'll be good for not just your country, but your own family.
Yeah, amen.
And if you don't believe us that there are,
are foreign powers that want to nudge you in a certain direction and, you know, exploit the wedge
issues in this country. Just look at what they're celebrating or marking, rather, in New York
today. Nearly 3,000 Americans lost their lives when some foreign hijackers took planes and
flew them into buildings in New York City. Scott Jennings, you're a great American patriot.
We appreciate you, brother. We'll talk to you soon.
Thanks, guys. Good to see you all.
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John Thune is here from the Senate.
Where's John?
Where's John?
No, no.
John is working hard.
He's got great opposition.
He's got great opposition from the Democrat Schumer.
and these guys are terrible.
That was a
President Trump's speech at the R&C
on September 9
and he mentioned John Thune and he got a
loud boo from the
audience there in Dallas.
That was not the guy we wanted running the Senate.
That was not, yeah, well,
it wasn't surprising he got booed, but
now joining us
is Senator Rick Scott.
By the way, Senator,
I saw a little news that I hopefully
will have some time to get into that the Senate
Leadership Fund is working with the Texas Pact to back our friend Ken Paxton in Texas, which is
really good news. I was credibly told by some of your colleagues, at least I saw the news
reports, that wasn't going to happen. So God bless the Senate Leadership Fund for at least doing
that because, you know, even a blind squirrel has an acorn.
Ken's got a win. I mean, come on. I mean, this is a guy. He's a patriot. He cares about this
country. He's a fighter. He's a conservative.
And the other guy's crazy.
I mean, come on.
This is the thing.
For conservatives that have these complaints about the conservative movement, the GOP, I got them too.
You've got them.
We all have got them.
This is not even like a choice between like 1A, 1B.
This is like communism or the American way of life.
It's a binary choice.
Now we got to reform.
Listen, if you want to fix the conservative movement, here's how you do it.
It's called primaries.
you pick better horses in the race.
You don't go and sabotage and go this horseshoe people route
where you go make alignment with baby killers and communists.
I just don't get it.
Anyway, I want to give you a chance
because yesterday, beautiful tribute you wrote to Charlie.
You were often on the show with Charlie.
You guys had a close relationship.
He supported you.
He believed in your talents and abilities to lead the Senate.
Tell us about yesterday and what that meant for you.
Well, it's the only person that is a friend of mine, it's ever been assassinated.
And it's disgusting that in this country, only because of your, the fact, and it wasn't his political views.
I mean, here's a guy that would talk about anything.
Charlie just wanted to have a conversation and have a discussion about things.
And that was enough to getting murdered in this country.
I mean, you can't make this stuff up.
So somebody that simply wants to have a conversation and will listen to both sides and sit down and talk in a civil manner was murdered.
And so, I mean, I still to this day cannot imagine.
Because I was on the show two days before that happened.
And we actually talked because I've been going to universities like Charlie did, not as many as he's done.
But you just, you know, this country's, you know, one, we have people internally that want to murder us, like Hassan.
Piker wants me murdered and all the capitalists in the country murdered. And then you've got,
we're on 9-11 where people from outside this country hate us. We have to understand,
this is a fight. They want to kill us, right? Commerce China is killing us with fentanyl.
So let's understand. We are in a fight, so we have to do, like what you did with Patriot Mobile,
you have to say, listen, we're going to pick who's on our side and who's on the other side.
There's good and there's evil.
killing people is evil, right? So it's evil. Killing Charlie was evil. The 9-11 was evil. I was in New York City that day. Fortunately, I wasn't close to the World Trade Center. But it's evil. And let's call it out for what it is.
Yeah. Amen. Yeah, we are in a war, and it is a time for choosing. You know, it really is. I think, you know, there's times where there's, you know, sort of expansion, big tent, coalition building, all this stuff, reaching, you know, to build larger. It feels like we're in a time of purging, where some of the voices that we thought were with us, we're never really with us. And we've got to sort of consolidate, get our power base, and move forward. That's why people like Ken Paxon, who are very,
very much on the team need to be supported fully by everybody with their common sense still intact.
Senator, I know that, so I was surprised to see.
I played at the beginning.
I don't know if you saw it, but, you know, Senator Thune, Leader Thune got booed at the RNC.
Oh, I saw that.
It's no, I'll tell, I'll just remind our audience.
A couple things that are not, shouldn't be surprised.
I have publicly said it's time for him to be removed.
Okay.
That's where I'm at.
We did publicly back you.
Charlie publicly backed you to become.
leader. So I was surprised
when I saw
this news report from Bloomberg.
You can throw it up 201. It says, Rick Scott
back soon as next GOP leader
staving off challenge.
Throw that up, please. Yep.
So I wanted to ask you about it.
You know, I respect you,
but I was very surprised by this reporting.
So here's where I am. I mean,
we're going to have a race again in November.
I don't know if Thune will run. I don't know
who's going to run. When they run,
I'm going to listen to everybody. I want somebody
that's going to get things done.
I ran to do the, we've got to get things done.
We have to take votes.
We have to show people where we are.
We've got to bust our butt to get things done.
So I don't know who I'm going to support because I don't know who's going to run.
But I know it's a hard job.
I'm frustrated that the Save America hasn't passed.
I'm frustrated that we're not balancing the budget.
I've got a lot of frustrations.
So we'll see in November.
Okay.
So wait, that's pretty newsy then, actually.
So are you saying that Bloomberg's got it wrong?
You are not committing to backing leader Thune as the next GOP leader.
Absolutely not.
You know, let's see who's going to run.
I assume he's going to run for re-election, and we'll see who else runs.
As you know, nobody would run against McConnell.
I ran against McConnell.
And then I ran when McConnell decided to leave.
Unfortunately, we didn't win.
And I want to thank you all for your support.
I think if it would have been a public poll around the country, we would have won.
Because people want change.
people want us to do something we're getting nothing done it's so frustrating i've been there now
for seven half years why the debt's gone from eighteen half trillion in the 40 yeah well why are we not
getting anything done what's really happening because like i i'm just like begging leader thune just
like do a show vote blake's always pushing this it's like just get people on the record yeah like
there's so many good like i said i did a letter like that i did a letter to the conference and
I said, let's vote every day on election and security. Like every morning, the first vote,
it takes 30 minutes, all right? Let's take every day. And let's take pass the Save America,
pass voter ID, pass that you have to be American citizen to register to the vote. Whatever it is,
let's vote on it, all right, and see if we can finally get it. Now, I agree with Mike Lee,
where we've said, and Ron Johnson, we've said, look, if you're not going to enforce the filibuster,
which filibuster only was a vote to stop debate. If you're not going to enforce the filibuster,
then you get rid of the filibuster.
I mean, do I want to get rid of the first,
filibuster first thing? No, I'm fine with debate.
But we're not doing that.
We don't have it. It's not Mr. Smith goes to Washington.
We don't talk. We just say, oh, yeah, we don't want to talk,
but we're not going to have a vote.
Clarence Thomas, you know, didn't get 60 votes.
I think he got, what, 52 votes?
They had their debate. They stopped their debate,
and they voted for him, right?
52 votes.
That's how this should work.
Force a conversation.
What's some, this year,
probably the most important thing we all wanted was election security.
And like, and say, look, if somebody has a better idea,
let's we'll have all the amendment votes so we can get the best deal we can get.
But what can we do to get this past?
So, I mean, it's, to me, I'm like you, pressure.
Yeah, why isn't that, like, you know, President Trump in that clip,
he blamed Democrats.
Okay, I get it.
None of us, we know the Democrats don't control Congress.
Yeah, but, yeah, they don't control Congress.
That's a great point.
Well, look, Thune has made the decision that he's not going to force a filibuster.
He's not going to make us stay on the bill.
I mean, that's the decision you made.
Now, here's the posse.
Next week when we get back, we're going to have a vote on the insider training bill that passed a house with voter ID.
So that's an opportunity.
We're going to do a reconciliation bill, and we talked about this before we left, that I don't know anybody that doesn't support putting as much election security in that bill as we can.
Is it the same as passed on the Save of America Act?
not. The same of America asks
you have to have voter ID. Yeah, this is
frustrating because so even if we do it in a
reconciliation bill, you're basically
still asking states to opt in.
All the worst states, you're not going to opt in.
They're not going to opt in.
They will take, they will lose
money if they can still get
illegals on the voter rolls. We know that.
I mean, well, look at
Spencer, clearly was in the runoff
and they stole it from him. It's like in California
you vote, you keep counting,
votes until Democrat wins. You know, they did that to be in 2018. I won by 50,000 votes election night,
and then they kept finding balance. So this stuff is going on. We know in what, New Jersey
acknowledged they have what, I don't know how many illegals, but we see this all across the country.
People know that it's not fair. And people want this. Republicans want it, Democrats want it,
independents want it. The only people don't want it are elected Democrats in Washington, D.C.
It's just so frustrating. You know, Charlie's, it's, it's in fear.
It's curating because you just get this sense of everyone there is literally a professional at winning elections,
and yet the most obvious stuff to win elections.
That's what they won.
Once you get up there, when I ran in 2018 for the Senate, my first ad was term limits.
Okay?
And all the leadership called me and say, oh, you know, wait a minute.
We don't like that.
I said, but it works.
We do it in Florida.
It works.
We do it for presidents.
Laplace
Jeffrey G. Latush.
Catherine L. Labore.
Amerneth Lachman.
Ganesh K. Ladkut.
James Patrick Ladley.
Yeah, what you just saw there was as the reading
of all the names of the 2,753 people killed on 9-11,
AOC and Muslim Mayor Mamdani
laughing.
Laughing as the names
of the fallen at the hands of evil terrorist.
What a slap in the face.
Senator Rick Scott joins us.
Senator, when you see that clip, goes through your mind.
Makes you mad.
I mean, these are people that died.
You just, you think about what Mondamia said,
Sam Piper said outside that we deserved it.
I mean, we know who the good guys are, the bad guys are.
And the people that want to kill us are the bad guys.
We have got to fight to preserve this way of life.
And so I can't imagine Mondami how he got elected.
AOC, God forbid, somebody like El-Sai, will get elected, the Senate out of Michigan.
So it just makes you mad when you look at what's happening in this country.
We're obviously appalled that we have, I mean, Charlie pointed this out, that 25 years after, well, it was 24 at the time, but 24, 25 years later, we have a Muslim mayor of New York.
But it's the deeper crisis, I think, is that adoption of that third world mentality.
It's now routine, actually, to run into on the left and in some cases on the right, the attitude.
Actually, America brought 9-11 on itself because we gave money to Israel or we had troops in Saudi Arabia with Saudi Arabia's permission.
And that actually made it justified what they did.
I've run into that in D.C.
Someone who wanted a job in the Trump administration told me that once.
Yes.
yeah Charlie right there from
25 he said 24 years ago
a group of Muslims killed 2,753 people on 9-11
now Muslim Socialist is on pace
to run New York City so now a socialist Muslim
is actually running New York City
it's a
it's a gut punch for red-blooded American Patriots
to say the least
Senator I want to talk about what I kind of teased
before and that was you brought up balanced budget which is music to my ears and the reason is
we've got so many young people i talk to them there are turning point students they are frustrated
with affordability they feel like owning a home is out of reach starting a family getting married
and you can feel that american dream slipping away i think it's on the way back currently if we
just hold to our present course but the reason that people feel like this affordability crunch
is so real and it's so pressing is because we spend too much. You know, Milton Friedman said only
Washington, D.C. can create inflation because only Washington, D.C. has a printing press to make as
much money as they want. And that is a fundamental core economic principle that young people
need to realize. They live through four years of about 30 percent inflation under Joe Biden.
Inflation has come back down. It's manageable. Yes, the Iran war caused gas prices,
energy prices to spike up again. We're going to get that under control.
But the underlying fundamentals of this economy are much better than they were under Joe Biden.
Nevertheless, you're still, it's the hangover, right?
And it's all about printing too much money because that's what inflates the asset prices of the rich.
And that's what inflates home ownership and all the things that they want to get involved in.
And it squeezes the lower and middle class.
It creates that K-shaped economy.
So if you're mad about affordability, you should be mad about Washington printing too much damn money.
Are we ever going to get any more momentum and traction towards balancing the budget?
And I have to say, although I kind of do really like the idea of working families getting a break, $5,000 stipend,
but how do you balance those two competing interests?
Well, first of all, but it's real that things cost too much.
Let me say you in my lifetime, I can buy a brand new car after I got out of the Navy, okay, $1,625.
My best friend could buy a house in the suburbs, three-bedroom, one-bath house, nice house for $21,000.
I could go to university for $255 a semester, all in cost, other than about $20 for books,
and said I went to junior college for my first year because it was $200.
Now think about a young person today.
Look at they can't afford a house, they got school debt.
I mean, and what schools cost is ridiculous.
What houses cost, two in 42 cities in this country, a starter home is a million dollars.
So this idea about the cost of living and government has done it.
The federal government has done it for decades.
So the only way out of this is balance a budget.
Now, I became governor of Florida in January 2011.
Florida had not balanced its budget, but one year and 40 years.
I balance a budget and I cut taxes every year.
And guess what?
We paid off a third of state debt
and we started running surpluses
to pay off the debt.
What we have to do at the federal level
is do the exact same thing.
I believe in tax cuts.
If there's a way to pay for this $5,000,
I am all in.
But you've got to do it in a manner
that you also balance the budget
and pay for everything you're doing
and figure out how to grow the economy way faster.
It's the only way we're going to get inflation under control,
get more jobs in this country,
and make sure people can afford their house,
their education, their car.
Look at what's, just follow what's happening with interest rates right now.
Its rates are continuing to move up, which makes it harder to buy a house, harder to finance a car,
harder, even more, higher credit card interest rates.
And who's the hurt?
Not the rich.
The rich are getting richer.
It's the middle class and the poor.
We have got to balance this budget.
Yeah, amen.
I just don't see any, it was, by the way, it was one of Charlie's huge, huge issues right from the very beginning.
I mean, I don't know if you've seen these clips, though, but it's Charlie going on like,
Neil Cavuto
railing against the budget and the deficit.
And I think at that point it was like,
don't quote me,
but I think it was around like $10 billion at the time.
Like maybe $14.
But you know, now we're at 40.
And so every time we do that,
we are weakening middle class purchasing power.
So if you are ticked off about how expensive things are,
it's because Washington can't freaking balance the budget.
And it's so irritating that not.
not more people are sounding the alarm like you.
And we're going to have a bond crisis at some point, Senator.
It's happy. First off, it's happening.
Just think in the last, what, eight years, gold has gone from, what, 1,400 to 4,400.
Look at what's happening in interest rates just in the last two months.
It's happening.
People, if you look at, this is happening.
If you look at, we're going to collect at federal government about $5.5 trillion,
we're going to spend, what, $1.2 trillion in interest.
If that doubles, where's the money come from?
interest rates could double.
Yeah. Well, we haven't had a balanced budget since the 90s, I think, right?
So, you know, and then COVID just exasperated everything.
What a disaster the way that was handled.
Because it was just a waste.
The programs, I mean, just through money, no accountability.
And Nick Shirley has, if he's taught us anything, it's that when you government goes,
oh, we're going to give everybody free stuff, guess what?
The fraudsters are going to take a lot of it.
So you just, you're just, yeah.
And you're just, you're just ended up financing Democrat super PACs anyways.
But Senator Scott, thank you for joining us today.
It's, please, please, please get your colleagues rallied around that.
I'm grateful to know that you have not committed to endorsing Duna's leader.
I think that is prudent.
Let's just put it that way.
God bless you, Senator Scott.
Yeah, we got to.
Bye.
Bye.
Take care.
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I was going back last last memorial event at UVU over 5,000 people.
You really lit it up, which if you guys missed it, the whole thing is available on Rumble.
You guys did a great job streaming ahead of time.
We had a bunch of students come on and all these things.
So Blake kind of anchored that broadcast last night.
So check it out, please.
We have it on podcast too, right?
Yes, yeah, everywhere, yeah.
And the podcast one, it was with the stream of advance.
So if you just want to go to the actual event, it's about an hour in.
Yeah, just fast forward right past Blake.
That's okay.
We were doing that all the time.
We are joined in studio by two of the folks that Charlie loved to mix it up with the most.
You guys have some of my favorite clips.
exist of Charlie ever.
And that is, of course, Alex Clark,
host of Culture Apothecary,
her beautiful rebrand that has gone swimmingly.
You were right.
Alex Clark is apparently always right.
Didn't Charlie say that?
Yeah, he wanted the shirt or something.
Yeah, he said once when I was on here,
he said, I need a T-shirt that says Alex Clark is always right.
Yeah, I mean, you pitched him on it.
He went with it.
And it's the only thing he's ever.
It's been a smash success.
So hundreds and hundreds of thousands of downloads every episode.
And if you're into the Maha stuff,
which we are Charlie very much was definitely support.
By the way, I tweeted this last night.
RFK Jr. speech last night was amazing.
Dude, I am dying to see this.
I got home very late from a flight.
And so I haven't even got to watch.
I'm so hyped to like, I want to sit with it today.
I've heard nothing but good things.
It was incredible.
And he had this great line where he was giving a shout out to Charlie where he said,
and he talked to how Charlie kind of engineered the endorsement.
And he said, Charlie Kirk built the bridge.
that President Trump and I walked across.
And it was so powerful.
Wow.
I loved it.
Anyways, Joe Bob, also host of Turning Point Tonight, who's blowing up right now.
And you guys, so Charlie saw your guys' towns early.
And so I just have to play some of these.
This is really fun.
Okay, SOT 74.
Is it gay for a guy to wash dishes in a marriage?
Don't chuck a bob.
Just, just.
No answer.
I'm curious.
I haven't thought deeply.
Have you ever, you've been married for now? How long? Two years? Yes. I mean, I've washed it when
it's my idea to watch it. So you're saying you would have a problem with it if your wife
asked you, honey, can you please wash the dishes? Or like a requirement. Right. Then it starts to get
on the day. Okay. Okay. So what do you think about this? Women who have been married for a few months
or are pregnant with their first child, haven't even had a first child say, if your husband is ever
changing a diaper in your marriage, you do not have your gender roles correct. And your marriage is
Yeah, that's insane.
Did he say that's insane?
Yeah, because by the way, we have a staffer here who claims he's never changed a diaper.
I don't know my dad ever changed the diaper.
I am, I judged it.
I changed all kinds of diapers.
I think it's fine.
I think it's different.
I think millennial dads are changing way more diapers than Gen X or Boomer Dads.
And are the marriages more successful on average?
It's about practicality in terms of the time.
You want my wife to take a break from making dinner to change a diaper?
I'll just, hey, well, my dinner needs to be on the table at five of a lot.
So I'll just go ahead and change the diaper.
These clips are so fun.
I got to keep playing it.
We are going to take your questions.
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This is a quasi-a.
These are AMAs to Charlie.
This is all an ode to Charlie.
So be sure.
Get your questions in alignment.
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Join us there.
And we're about to start taking your questions.
And Joe Bob and Al is going to do it.
We're going to be going through the entire hour.
We're going to be going over.
over the hour, so stick with us.
I've never seen this one.
Yeah, so I want to play Joe Bob and Alex asking Charlie if he knows, I don't know who
Ice Spice is.
So, or what?
So let's do 61.
That tracks.
All right, Charlie.
What is Ice Spice?
Is it a Starbucks drink?
Is it a rapper?
Is it one of the daughters of the Spice Girls?
Is it a strain of marijuana?
Ice Spice?
I'm going to go with a dad.
daughter at one of the spice group.
I think it could be all.
Do you not know who ice spice is?
No, of course I do.
It's a rapper.
Never heard of.
It's a female rapper.
He's never heard of it.
And you were going to say,
you stopped because you have no idea.
I don't want to misgender ice spice.
I probably would have guessed the weed.
Yeah.
I had no idea.
Yeah.
That was a pretty good list of choices you guys came up there.
That was one of the best things about Charlie was how illiterate he was on pop
culture when he was so knowledgeable about literally anything else.
But pop culture, just clueless.
I think a big favorite for all of us is in the chat.
What is Riz?
And then I reply and I write it out with, you know, hyphen charisma.
Yeah, exactly.
And you found your Riz, Charlie.
You did.
He did.
I remember cutting some of those videos because we did a lot of those types of things
where like Alex would know the answer,
but Charlie would just be completely in the dark about like Taylor Swift lyrics,
about who Ice Spice was.
And I remember after one of them were done,
I sent it over to Mikey and I was like, hey, he doesn't know who this line of Taylor Swift and everybody else knows it.
I don't know if we want to look dumb here or whatnot.
What's the protocol?
You don't want to throw him under the bus, but it was so endearing.
But he was like, he actually takes pride in not knowing Taylor Swift lyrics.
It's like actually a positive.
I remember when this one came out and it was, we will get to your questions after this,
but I hope you guys are enjoying this as much as we are.
SOT 75.
But.
Mattress firm, it's a money laundering scheme or something.
Allegedly.
We're not doing the Dominion thing here.
No, no, no, no.
There's a conspiracy theory out there and I...
We're going to get lawsuit after lawsuit.
There is a conspiracy theory.
Alex will be deposed and all of our text message will be made public.
Look, I didn't come up with this.
Have you seen this though? This is wild.
There's something going on.
There are too many mattress firms in existence to justify the amount of mattresses people buy.
When's the last time we bought a mattress?
Exactly.
And I didn't buy it from that.
Well, then why is there a mattress firm on every exit in every city?
There's so many.
Think about how popular Chick-fil-A is.
We don't even have that many chick-fil-aes,
and you have lines going around the building,
and they don't have that many franchises.
And yet, any given city, there's like 100 mattress firms.
So, just so I understand the argument,
whose money are they laundering?
Probably the cartels.
Ah.
Well, then you got.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
I could have totally believed it.
if Charlie had responded.
Like, when did you last get a mattress?
And Charlie somehow reveals that for some health reason, he gets a new mattress every four months.
Yeah.
He would have been the guy to get it.
Actually, I just changed my mattress again last week.
Ghost beds.
Of course.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's get it.
Do we have questions lined up here?
Oh, yeah.
We have a few of them.
Let's see here.
Let's get to how about we do, let's do Ellie.
She has a lighthearted question.
Ellie first.
Unmute yourself.
Hi.
Guys.
Can you guys?
Can you guys hear me?
Yes.
So with it being 9-10 yesterday and 9-11 today, I wanted to ask a more light-hearted question.
So all of you traveled and worked closely with Charlie.
So what's your current favorite moment or story from traveling or doing events with him?
I know my one with Joe Bob and Charlie.
Oh, I want to know this one.
I also have one too.
Where Antifa broke through the glass and you were filming.
And he goes, oh, oh.
Yeah.
And then, like, it ended up on Gutfeld.
Oh, yeah.
It was just...
Well, you want to know the follow-up to that story, too?
And this is actually somewhat endearing, too, to Charlie, because I didn't...
I was unaware of the situation.
I sprinted into the green room after that.
I never experienced anything like that.
I said some expletives in a room with a lot of important people, and Charlie just kind of
looked at me and, like, you guys okay?
He has a cat-camic story like that, too.
Yeah.
He had every right to...
be very upset, but he wasn't.
It was actually, he showed a lot of grace, which was, which was, I was excited for.
So that's my favorite Joe Bob story.
Maybe go to Blake.
I just love, it was specific because you wanted travel stories.
I loved Charlie in Japan, which was just right before, but all the various ways of him
interacting with this very foreign culture.
So we went to, I remember we went to one of those very simple Japanese diners.
And, you know, normally Charlie only ate four foods, but it was in Japan, so he was
experimenting more and he was really excited to eat like fermented chickpeas or whatever it was
and he was he was going at that and just little things like for example rio our guide in japan he took us
to the maji shrine which is a big shinto religious shrine to the emperor meiji and charlie's
interested in he's getting recognized and then we go up to the shrine and of course what people
are doing is they're leaving incense and prayers and charlie he's clearly okay how how can i
approach this because this is basically a shrine to a different god and so he just kind of goes up
and sits there for a bit, and then walks back.
He's just, I said a prayer to Jesus for mercy on the Emperor's Soul or something like that.
And I was like, good man, good man.
And just all those little bits, or we went to Don Quixote, which is this very funny Japanese department store.
It's one of the most Japanese things you'll ever see.
Seven stories tall, really compact, because the Japanese are very tiny people.
And each floor is selling something different.
and he was grabbing these things for his kids.
And we saw an ad for a curious George clock,
but we couldn't find the clock, unfortunately.
And so we need to get a copy of that clock sometimes.
Yeah, you need to go back.
Yeah, we need to go back.
And he just, he loved everything about it.
His reaction to it was always so earnest.
It was always so funny to see how he'd react to something new.
Or even when he was walking around Korea,
just going like, I'm taller than everybody here.
I loved your story in Korea where he went out on his own,
morning yeah because he couldn't kind of couldn't do that very easily here in the
states yeah he just went through the streets of gongnam which if you've been there it's
I mean it's a big modern city but it's all these alleyways yeah gongnam style yeah the
song and so this is the the heart of Seoul all the high rises but then it's all these
like confusing alleyways behind them and he's just wandering through them and there's a million
stores mostly doing plastic surgery in some parts of that town it's a very strange
It's weird about Korea is they have the highest rate of sea sections anywhere in the planet.
That's number one in the list of about 500 things that are weird about Korea.
All right.
I want Alex to have a proper moment here.
So I'm just going to go quick.
My favorite memory, and I'm actually looking at a picture of this, about two weeks before Charlie and I went to Wrigley Field together.
And it was great.
We got to walk the field.
And I have lots of great travel memories with Charlie, but that was pretty great.
So I never traveled with Charlie.
Like we would end up at the same place.
We're doing events.
We're doing events.
Okay.
So let me just preface with that.
But I told the story before.
But if we're doing lighthearted funny, the first time I ever met him, I, you know,
it was interviewing for my job.
And they take me backstage at our women's conference.
And, you know, I have like 10 minutes to sit.
He's a busy guy.
So it's like, hey, you got 10 minutes of Charlie Curry can press him.
Maybe he'll hire him.
I'm like, no pressure.
So I sit down.
he's eating a salad or something.
He's quickly eating his lunch,
also talking to me,
doing a hundred things at once,
which he always was doing.
So it was really hard for me to follow the first time meeting him.
I'm like,
is he listening to me?
Is he looking at me?
Because he was talking to me,
but he was doing 100 things,
talking to other people.
And I noticed that this girl comes up
and she, like, reaches over him very, like,
in his space and starts picking the croutons out of his salad.
Hold on.
And I was like,
what?
We have this clip of you describing this.
I think.
You want to tell or can I play the clip?
The clip is really funny.
Okay.
Stop 50.
The first time that I met your girlfriend, I didn't know she was your girlfriend.
So my first interaction was you hadn't come over yet and she was digging through your salad and removing all the croutons.
This girl, they were just like, here's Charlie's salad, handed to this girl.
She's sifting through it.
And I was like, oh, my gosh, he has his assistants dig through his salad.
with their bare hands.
I was so weirded out.
And then you came over and sat down
and she hugged you from behind,
like gave you a kiss on the cheek,
and I was shook.
I was like,
that's inappropriate for his assistant.
And then they told me later like,
oh, that's Charlie's girlfriend.
I was like, oh, it all makes sense.
Yes.
She is so sweet too.
Everyone at Turning Point USA loves her
and we love having her around.
Oh, thank you.
People are freaking out right now.
Like, can you hear that?
That is you discussing that you even have a girlfriend at all.
People are freaking out.
He's taken.
Yeah, back then, I mean, it was a huge question, like, on social media.
Like, does Charlie Kirk have a girlfriend?
Is he dating anyone?
You know, his private life was so private.
Right.
And people were very interested in that.
And so when it came out that he was engaged, which is then, then I was able to talk about also them dating.
Yes.
But no one knew when he just had a girlfriend.
They only knew when they had gotten engaged.
Yes.
Well, that was a beautiful.
I remember my first time meeting Erica was at Politicon in 2018.
Oh, that was.
was wild where he did the whole like i live like a capitalist every day and like there was just
you know erika was just there when i walked up and they were standing outside i was like who's
this blonde person he goes oh she's just a friend i was like okay yeah you know and it was like
okay hi whoever you are uh he hated that he hated that moment and i this one of my favorite charlie
moment yeah i love that charlie moment yeah i love it but yeah it was interesting with full circle moment
at the RNC in 2024.
He sat down with Jank and Anna Kasperi.
And he was like, I don't even know what that means.
You know, like in retrospect.
But it was a great moment.
I love it.
Anyways, do we have another question?
Yeah, let's go to Don.
Don, unmute yourself.
And what's your question?
Hi, guys.
Thanks for taking my call.
Of course.
I was just wondering if,
if Erica was still getting lots of emails and support
or if it's starting to taper off.
I hope it hadn't started to taper off.
We got an explosion of them yesterday, I will tell you.
And by the way, you saw it at the RNC.
So let me clear something up because there's a bunch of the usual suspects that are online going like,
can't believe she spent 9, 10 at the RNC, not with her children.
Total garbage, by the way.
She was not at the RNC.
The president misspoke.
I think people got confused because the president was like Erica's here today and tomorrow with us.
But she wasn't.
She was just there on the 9th.
And you heard the applause from the audience, which was amazing when he mentioned her from the podium.
Everybody started cheering and supporting her.
And so she's got so many supporters, so many people that love her and are constantly praying for her.
And yeah, Blake can attest.
We got just an explosion of emails.
Yeah, for example, I just searched Erica and in our inbox, you literally filled a sheet of 100 just with the ones today and yesterday.
Yeah, exactly.
There'll be more if I change the page over.
Whoa, someone sent us a painting of her, actually.
Oh, somebody just sent a painting of her.
Yeah.
So if that is, it's your concerns.
So, no, I, you know, it's funny.
I think there's, like, and you can attest to this, but, like, online, there's really loud voices and there's really loud communities.
But it doesn't mean that they are the majority.
And that's one of those things where you get a lot of, like, loud anti-turning point people.
I call them the horseshoe people now.
Because, like, basically what they've decided is, like, hey, I hate Jewish people.
you hate Jewish people? Cool. I, me, who I claim to be a conservative, I'm going to lie with a bunch of people that just want to kill babies and open the borders and seize the means of production and they hate white people. And they hate Christians. So yeah, that's going to make a lot of sense here. That's like the people that you hear loudest online. I also, I just want to say what's crazy to me is, is you can tell like who's been an actual fan of Turning Point USA and who is who is new as a hater. Because for years, Erica has spoken at our events. And she always has one of the.
the longest, if not the longest meet and greet line.
Like, it is wrapped around usually going for an hour and a half, her taking a photo with
every single person.
So it's just funny to me, people are like, nobody knows who Erica is or like, she just came
on the scene or just like just started talking after Charlie died.
I'm like, she's been basically a turning point contributor for several years.
Well, and she kind of did it begrudgingly.
That's the thing.
Like, Charlie made her do it because Charlie wanted her, like, he wanted to model marriage for
everybody because he was so excited about being married and he loved Erica.
and their love story, like, everybody can attest when they would get around each other.
It was almost like annoying how like in love they were.
It was cute.
It was beautiful, really.
I just mean it was like they were really in love.
So all these rumors about, you know, whatever.
It's just like so opposite of the truth.
By the way, get that shot on Alex with that American flag.
Get that like, look at that.
I think we should like leave this up in honor of like that.
That's a great background.
It's a good image.
It's a good image.
She picked up.
I think actually I want to read the email that came in with that, the woman who did the painting of Charlie and Erica, just because I think it's representative of a lot that we've gotten.
I've been praying extra for all of you this week, Erica especially.
Charlie is still such an inspiration to me to be bold and to tell someone about Jesus.
I drew this because his and Erica's marriage was so special, so sweet to watch.
I sincerely admire Erica as she's handled herself with such grace and strength over the last year.
Charlie was a great example of a man of God and Erica is a model of a great woman of God loving Jesus, loving her family, loving her country.
And this is from an 18 year old who actually seems to that.
My soon to be nieces and nephews, I'm getting married, my fiancee is nieces and nephews.
He has 40 of them, by the way.
40?
Yep.
He comes from a family of 10 kids and multiple of those little girls in that family.
They pray for Eric, Miss Erica Kirk every night before bed.
Awesome.
Yeah.
There's a lot of people that have texted me stuff like that saying we literally pray for you guys every day.
So it's kind of one of those things where Erica's, the overwhelming support is from like regular people that don't necessarily have a thousand followers or 10,000 or 100 million followers.
It's beautiful.
Honestly, we get inundated by it.
So that's a great question.
I got a great queue up of questions here.
I think Jonathan is next.
So Jonathan, unmute yourself.
And what's your question?
Ami? Hello?
Yes, we got you. We got you. What's your question, Jonathan?
I didn't realize it was unplug. All right. So I have two great questions.
Are there any big wins we can see for the midterms in the next seven weeks before the midterms?
And have you been able to make any progress on the exclusive lunches and dinners with the AMF speakers and special guests?
You mean Amfest?
Yeah.
Well, I'll say something about Amfest. We're really focusing on.
I think freshening it up with some really interesting entertaining fiery debates and stuff like that, right?
That's a big focus for this year.
Instead of only focusing on keynote speeches, I think getting a lot more panels and fiery debates and controversial topics and stuff.
Oh, yeah.
You want to know what about flock cameras, data centers, Israel, Iran.
There's so many things people are arguing about.
You've got to allow.
You've got to kind of make, yeah, because here's what's going to happen, right?
You've got this group that says, oh, turning point needs to be more.
like this. And you got this group says, oh, you got to be more like this. And the whole thing is
basically a recipe for purity test. And any movement that you can observe that devolves into a purity
spiral, purity test spiral is an unhealthy movement. So we're just going to say, hey, you feel very
strongly about XYZ? Debate it. That's going to be a lot of the focus of this year's Amfest, I think.
We'll still do some keynotes and we're still going to have some of that. But there's going to be a lot
of debates and the breakouts are going to be talking about all these issues. So we've got to sort of
start building towards a consensus on some of these more hot button topics because, yeah, the midterms
are right there, but this is going to be December after the midterms. And then we've got to start
getting that consensus built towards 2028. So I think Amfest is going to be a great opportunity,
great platform for that. And yeah, we are going to be doing, we're going to have our podcast room for
members, of course. So join us there. We love those. Those are really, really fun times. Charlie
loved those. We love doing them.
And what was your other question?
What can we say about upcoming midterm wins, like predictions?
Oh, I think it was like other wins we can get before the midterms to help us win them.
So we can have things to bring to the table to have a good conversation.
Yeah, that's why I asked, I don't know if you were watching an hour one,
but that's why I asked Senator Scott about this $5,000 dividend, right?
Because I think some people have done the math and it's over a trillion dollars, right?
And so a lot of the, you know, I would say more conservative, but supporters of President Trump, like I saw Senator Ted Cruz was asked that.
I did Jesse Waters last night. He was on right before me. And Jesse asked him about it. He said, well, I'm more of like, maybe we can do some tax cuts things.
It's going to be a tough pill to swallow for a lot of the fiscal conservatives. And so it'll probably change shape. But I actually think it's a great way to get low prop voters off the sidelines. Right. If you have two people, right, they're married, that could be that.
10,000 bucks. And that's a huge, huge difference maker. We got to figure out how to pay for it.
We got to balance the budget. So you got to balance all those things. But that's a big,
big win. I do think Iran continues to be a thorn in our side. It's annoying. And if you could get a
real, if you could get a real, this thing is over. That would be a big win that could happen
overnight if it happens. But I guess you'd have to have proof because we've had a few
fakeouts on that ending. Yeah, exactly. Listen, I'm a big believer that we need to announce sort of an
economic moonshot, right?
Charlie was a big believer in this.
He said 10 million new homes, 10 million
illegals deported, maybe it was 20,
depending on the tweet.
Let's make it 40.
Yeah, let's make it.
It really is no number too high.
We need to import 10 million illegal
so we can deport them immediately.
And so basically giving Gen Z something to buy into.
And I think here's the,
I think what some of the people in Washington
often miss is that, you know,
the squeakest wheel in politics is usually older people,
right they're the big donors they have these pet issues like they don't want property tax or whatever whatever
but if you lose the young people then you lose social media and then if you lose social media then the whole vibe
shift happens and that's kind of what we're living through and so you got to speak directly to young people
i think speaking to their economic anxieties is a real key thing a lot of this is just going to be messaging and
i would say he needs to go back out in campaign like every day yeah bobby is is being underutilized in
my opinion, Secretary Kennedy, I think we need him front and center. So a couple weeks back,
do you guys remember he did that awesome smackdown? He just bodied that CNN host about like the
pandemic and COVID and vaccinations and all that. And it was like so viral because people are like,
whoa, like, where has this guy been? Like we love the fighter. We just want to see him do pullups.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, or that or hiking in jeans or whatever on Camelback Mountain. He loved, you know,
all that weird stuff. I mean, we just need more of him.
him, but he is at his best when he is giving speeches, when he is speaking directly to moms and
the American people, families, and when he, when he just clocks people.
Well, he told the whole story about what the Democrat Party was when he grew up and how they had
betrayed every single one of their ideals. And he goes through point by point what they actually
did. So it's not just like these flowery statements. He backs it up with hard facts and evidence.
and then what they did to him when he was running
and how they betrayed him and how they villainized him
and tried to silence him basically.
And he's like, every single one of these proof points
exposes them for the hypocrites that they are.
That is why, you know, I was the first Kennedy
to endorse a Republican.
I don't know if you guys know who this guy is.
He's done a Jubilee debate and all that,
but his name is Dr. Mike.
He's a conventional viral social media doctor who, like, loves vaccines.
Like, yes, give me to vaccines.
Anyway.
What does he like?
if he just loves, you know, conventional medicine.
I want you to do the impression again.
Yeah, yeah.
So my request, if we're doing like fiery debates at Am Fest,
I think we try to get Secretary Kennedy versus Dr. Mike on stage.
It would be so juicy.
That would be great.
I'm all about it.
Are you looking for a boxing match?
Well,
maybe we can just have them do some push-ups, pull-up.
We'll have him do the presidential fitness.
Yeah, there you go.
That'd be good.
What are you looking for ahead of the midtermers?
What do you want to see?
No, I think messaging is you hit the nail on the head there.
Conservatives, I mean, the age-old adage in politics is if you're explaining you're losing, right?
And lives, they have such an easy job of just like, we're going to say all of these fluffy, fluffy things.
And conservatives just, it's the age-old problem that we've always had of getting the message out in a concise and cohesive way.
I thought it was interesting.
So yesterday, I watched all the videos.
Like every single is like super cut of Charlie giving speeches.
and he was so good at distilling a really nuanced and complex topic down to like a sentence or two.
And I think that's if we can get a better system of messaging down,
that's going to go a long way because the more people understand,
not to go into this whole diatribe, but I don't really believe in liberals.
I think there's conservatives and people who don't know they're conservatives enough yet or in demons.
And those are the only categories.
Fair enough.
And generally speaking.
You were losing me until you got to do it.
Here's a great example of it.
Stop 15.
This movement is not about Republican or Democrat.
This movement is not about conservative or liberal.
And I think you're going to see that on display in a little bit.
Just maybe.
This movement is about the citizens versus the oligarchs.
This movement is about.
is about we the people
versus the ruling class
this movement is about America
versus the globalist
this movement
is about all of us
against them
love that stating ovation
was that a flag behind him
that said Romanians for Trump
I just noticed that there was one of those funny ones
anyway so so that was a good example
of Charlie just distilling
the political
the politics of it all
into a visceral mode
moment for the audience. I think that's a really good, really good example. What's our next question?
Oh, well, first of all, I also, I want to flag this because it just popped into our inbox where someone
says, Alex, please join the AMA more often. That's from Allison. She also said, when my husband came to me
a few years ago and said, he believed God was telling him to get involved in politics, I said,
there's no way we're doing that. It's a waste of time. Not long after that, someone introduced me
to Charlie. Charlie helped me to understand how important politics really were and how important
they should be to a believing Christian.
And he showed me that it is possible to be a strong Christian and still involved in politics.
So thanks to Charlie, who I consider my political teacher, I can cheerfully and confidently support my husband as he surrenders to God's calling.
And then they also say, you should join the AMA.
There's a great email, except for the Alex Clark.
Yeah.
All righty.
So, and also we have a couple people who just sent well wishes in.
Laura said, I just wanted to say,
we're praying for all of you.
Thank you for your service
and continuing Charlie's legacy.
And Caroline just said,
I wanted to thank and honor Charlie
for a response he gave to me on an AMA call in April 2025
about IVF.
I remember we got calls about that.
He was very good at giving responses to tough questions.
And I know that was a tough question.
I think our next actual caller is Abby.
Abby, unmute yourself.
And what's your question?
Welcome to the show, Abby.
Okay, can you guys hear me?
Yes, we can.
Oh, my gosh, and the internet just came back on.
We know that experience.
Yeah, that was our experience.
Oh, yeah.
So I have a funny story to tell you guys,
but I just wanted to ask how you guys are doing.
Oh, man, that's the worst.
That's the hardest question.
I like to say I'm doing terrible, actually, especially yesterday,
but there's, you know, miracles in our midst, too.
I consider yesterday a miracle
where we had hundreds of people
both staff and students at the RNC
we had 5,000 plus people at UVU
reclaiming that space in Charlie's honor
we had hundreds and hundreds of people here at HQ
we had like an in and out truck
that was feeding everybody
and then we had another caterer in the evening
and yeah it was just
it was a miraculous day to be a year past
and to see the team pulling together still
and to see the outpouring of love still for Charlie
So it's like, it's terrible.
I mean, it was a really emotional day.
But I think given everything that we've faced in the last year, you know, my glass is half full.
I'd say I feel it's a very heavy moment.
It's there's a lot of emotional weight to it.
But I really appreciate the way like it gives me a lot of meaning when we see those emails that come in where people say I follow Jesus because of Charlie.
I got baptized because of Charlie.
I got married.
It saved my marriage.
I had a kid that otherwise I wouldn't have had because of Charlie.
And we had even more of those come in last night.
Probably more of them have come in today.
I haven't seen yet.
And to see the scale of how many people Charlie touched gives a lot of meaning to me.
And the toughest part about losing Charlie are the moments where you worry, like, will he be forgotten?
Will the movement fall apart because of it?
And so I, I drive a lot of meaning from when we hit these anniversaries and we can see those
testimonies come out.
Amen.
I still cry.
Every single time I talk about that day, I can't get through it.
There was a guardian reporter walking around interviewing us a few weeks ago and the article
came out yesterday and he literally wrote it there.
He was like talking to me.
He's like, he like wrote my sobs and then, and then like my stutters of like I was trying to
talk to him.
And so, yeah, I think it depends on the day for me.
I think that I kind of wrote about it yesterday.
in my tribute to Charlie, but I have just sadly, I think in the last year, I've become one,
which isn't bad, a lot more protective over Turning Point USA, but with that, I'm very distrusting.
So I'm extremely protective.
I feel like my head is always on a swivel.
Like I'm very much like, who's trying to come around us?
Who's trying to be involved?
Like, do they have our best interest?
Do they really care about Charlie?
Do they actually care about Erica?
Like, what are their motives?
I feel like I'm like in a paranoia state all the time, which can.
can be really emotionally exhausting.
So I would say going into 2027, my prayer for myself is just peace.
I feel like I haven't experienced any peace yet since we lost Charlie.
So that would be like my prayer.
And if people could pray for that for me, that would be amazing.
Yeah.
I think that's really well said.
I feel the same.
You've called me out a couple times on social too.
You've been like, you've been like, Andrew's biggest flaw is that he's too nice.
He's too nice.
He's too nice.
Like, I guess it could be worse.
So how are you doing, Joe Bob?
You know, I was kind of thinking about anything to add specifically to, you know, what you and Blake said.
And I don't really think there's much other than just there's a weight.
And then there's also like this galvanizing pull.
And they're kind of both being held in tandem right now, especially yesterday, where it's like these moments.
And Erica talked about this in that New York Times op-ed about the waves.
And I feel like yesterday there was a lot of various iterations of those waves,
of kind of this deep emotional contemplation
and then also the revitalization of just,
oh yeah, let's keep this thing going.
Let's go kick to progressive in the teeth,
rhetorically speaking, obviously,
and carry the mantle.
And so both of those things were happening
simultaneously throughout the day in my head.
And I feel like I wasn't the only one.
Yeah.
You know, I do have these bouts of anger that...
Yeah.
Oh, that's a good...
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I have never experienced or understood righteous anger until the last year.
And now I feel like I understand what righteous anger is.
Yeah.
I think I can't say that I never experienced it, but I've never experienced it to this degree and this potently.
You know, and it's, you know, the people that have attacked Erica, the org or whatever, you know, on top of the people that celebrated or mocked what happened to Charlie.
like there's a lot of righteous anger to go around truly and uh i think that's why turning
point means so much to the country because like we refused to bow or cow to any of this stuff
and we're just going to be exactly what charlie forged for all of us so well do we need to bring the
okay we're okay we're going to uh what's our next question blake all right i think uh we have
I think we have Mick next.
Mick, are you unmute yourself and what's your question?
Hey, Nick.
Hey, Nick, I do want to, yeah, hey, I want to say, God bless all you guys for being on that set.
I know that is not an easy thing to do, especially from the days right after and continuing to be on that set.
And thank you guys for keeping Charlie's show alive, even though some people may not want that.
Thank you, thank you, Mick.
my question for you guys is we have the midterms obviously and we've talked about the midterms
plenty but as we go through the midterms and then the 28 what was Charlie's um like mantra when he would
go into these election cycles and not just you know this or that candidate or this or that talking
point but how did he what did he operate with and how did he convey that to you guys I think about
Charlie the way he would
pick kind of one or two
lines and just hypnotically
repeat them and he'd get the t-shirts made of them
so for example in 28 he loved
to wear that shirt that just said vote early or
24 24 24 he'd have the shirt that just says
vote early and he would just wear it
day in and day out
he was really good at slogans and he'd say
vote early make a plan to vote
he'd love to repeat those two things and just
drill it drill it drill it because he knows
people aren't listening
yeah well and I
It's almost like we planned this.
We didn't plan it, but Charlie would be hammering away.
And we're trying to do our best Charlie impression about turning point actions commit 100.
Right.
So there's a lot of people that just sit on their keyboards and they complain and they, you know, throw bombs at people.
We are about solutions.
We're about action.
Right.
So TPaction.com slash 100.
I think we've got some graphics there, team.
Let's throw it up.
Can I say one quick thing on that?
What's that?
Can I say one quick thing on that?
So Charlie inspired me to really change my life and it looks a lot different today than it did a year ago.
And so I'm actually moving from Oregon to South Carolina.
So if you want to send me some phone numbers, I will phone to make that whole drive there.
I love it.
That's great.
That's great.
You can sign up, become a volunteer.
There it is.
And that QR code.
God bless you guys.
This was the team's innovation here.
So everybody watching, I want you to scan that QR code.
Get involved today.
That's what Charlie would be saying, like, listen, you can, you can moan and groan.
Okay, you can do that.
You can give into apathy, into cynicism, into nihilism, and you can let the left win, and you can be miserable.
That's great.
That's a really good way to live.
No, it's not.
It's awful.
It's terrible.
And if Charlie's life meant anything to you, it left any legacy or impacted you in any way,
you would know that that is a stupid response to the problems that we face.
The better response is to get involved.
TPaction.com slash 100.
TPaction.com slash 100.
And here's how it works.
You scan that QR code.
You sign up.
You can take a vacation on us, like it says on the thing.
You can fly to Arizona, New Hampshire, Nevada.
We'll get you a hotel room.
We'll give you a training.
We'll give you a staff person.
It'll be your point of contact.
You can go out in the field, call, knock on doors for a week, two weeks, three weeks.
Or you can do it from home from South Carolina, start texting these people,
send it in postcards, encouraging them to get their ballot.
it in because now that we got voter month, listen, with the excuses that we've heard for people
that don't vote, it's crazy. They take like an online poll and they think they voted or like they'll
have like a Trump shrine in their garage and they haven't voted. It's the weirdest thing.
You'll never believe the people that you will meet that have not voted. But what's cool about
the way we do this is if you're a conservative, you're going to be talking to other conservatives.
They're just low propensity conservatives. Yeah, so it's not scary. You don't have to, because I was
scared about this at first. You're not knocking a door in the
debating some Democrat that's going to be like, get off my
lawn, you know what I mean? These are Republicans
that just need encouragement like, hey,
you're going to vote, right? That's it. It's very easy.
Exactly. And so it's a really
easy, good way to get involved
and we make it as simple as possible
for you. You're just politely
harassing them to get their vote in.
It's a social nudge. I think you guys
did a great job at giving the carrot.
Let me give the stick. Democrats are
doing it. And so we need to, yes,
engage, engage, engage,
because they are doing it
and we need to out engage them.
So yes, all of the reasons why you should
but also know that you're trying to outpace.
We're a registered Republican household
and my wife told me yesterday
that one of the Democrat operatives
came knocking on the door
as in they're going after everybody.
Now we live in the godless hellhole
that is California, so that kind of makes sense.
Why do they even need to bother?
Yeah, who knows?
Because they don't go to church.
69% is not enough.
Presidents didn't fill out of your ballot for you.
Yeah, yeah, I know.
And they'll take your ballot.
They'll be like, did your grandma just die?
Oh, what was her name?
I can't believe all the sinister things California does and gets away with it.
My dad died four years ago.
Still gets a ballot at my mom's house in the mail.
Just crazy.
Fraud's impossible.
There's no confirmed cases of it.
No, we're never going to check.
The most secure elections in the history.
It takes us a month to count the votes because.
Congratulations on moving to South Carolina.
I do feel bad for you.
The coffee is probably going to get.
get much worse from the blue-haired baristas in Oregon.
There's good coffee everywhere now.
But South Carolina is one of the most beautiful states.
So have a great time.
And they have some like a weird pension for selecting very strange, very strange politicians.
So maybe you can help with that.
And I don't know if you're married or not, but if you're single, the women are a lot
prettier in South Carolina than Oregon.
They do.
They do something called makeup.
There you go.
They've discovered makeup in South Carolina and and razors.
Let's find a wife.
If you have a house in South Carolina, you should get a joggling board.
If you don't know what that is, well, you'll learn very soon because you're going to South Carolina.
Awesome.
Yeah, leave Monday.
Thank you, fellas.
All right.
Well, God bless you, man.
Please sign up, tpaction.com.
Just get it done.
By the way, a little ode to Oregon, okay.
Hey, I love the Pacific Northwest.
That's where my fiance is from.
Well, Charlie was a huge Oregon duck fan.
As you can see behind Blake, I don't know if you can see it right now.
It's a sliver of it.
And I've been wanting an excuse to play some of these coach landing clips.
His speech to his team.
Anyways, this was after Charlie died.
He didn't know Charlie was a huge duck fan.
So Sot 17.
I recently found out like Charlie, Kirk was a Oregon fan, right?
I didn't know that.
I hurt for his wife, Erica, and their kids.
Like that sort of evil should never exist in our country.
And that's what it is.
It's evil.
I mean, life matters, you know.
And I think we've lost sight.
of that. If you disagree with me, if you hate me, if you don't like me, just know this,
I love you. I absolutely love you, right? And life matters. And that's no way that Charlie should
experience that his family should experience that there's no way that that evil should exist
in this world. And we have to continue to identify and point it out.
Dang near made me an Oregon duck fan here and Coach Lannings say those things.
We're going to continue on here because it's not every day that we get Joe Bob and Alex
Clark in studio. So we're going to continue on a little podcast exclusive, but I just want to
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We have another question. We have at least one question left. I think if Anthony is still there,
Anthony, unmute yourself, and what's your question? Hello, everybody. Hey, Anthony.
It's about time Alex is on, so we don't have to listen to Andrew much anymore. Oh, no. I will be
quiet. Agreed. Thanks. But this is kind of a two-part question with yesterday and today,
today. I'll do today first. Everybody talks about on 9-11 where they were. It's kind of like
burned into their minds. I know where mine was. I was senior of our class. We were kind of playing
you while working on an art project. God rest my teacher's soul. She didn't find out. But where
were all of you on this day? And then my next question is, what was the one thing that drove Charlie
crazy either in the office or traveling?
link. Okay, that's good. I remember where I was when I found out I was in the fifth grade at St. Mary's Catholic School in Sufowall, South Dakota, and we would have morning announcements. And as part of the morning announcements, our principal said, we have to say a prayer for the two planes that crashed into the World Trade Center. And I know a lot of people in school, they have accounts where they just decided to pack it up for classes. They rolled in a TV, and they just watched the TV.
all day. We didn't do that. They actually tried to kind of maintain a normal school day. We didn't
wheeling the TV. And this led to a weird thing. So we were in the band and maybe you'd get music
lessons. Kind of you'd get a 25, 30 minute teach you your instrument music lesson each week if you
played an instrument. And that instructor was basically giving us updates. So people who are going
for their music lessons were coming back and explaining basically what, giving the update that they'd
heard. And then I remember we were
listening on the radio brief when we came
back in from recess. And then finally, late in the afternoon,
they actually did a
since it's a Catholic school. We had
a church attached. We did a mass
in the afternoon. Normally we'd do that on
Wednesday, but we did it that afternoon.
And so that's my
memory of how that all went
down. Yeah, I was in third
grade. I was going to Franklin Road
Christian School in Murfreesboro, Tennessee.
And we had chapel
that day. And I remember all
teachers were asked to go to the front and they were all like whispering and talking and then we went
through our whole school day completely normal no idea what had happened i guess they had made the
decision like this is too dark for kids this young let's let their parents tell them if they want to
tell them so my mom picked me up from school and when i got in the car my mom told me some terrorists
through their planes and these big skyscrapers in new york city and then we had fox news on of course
every single night going forward um i mean it was already already on in my house i grew up in a very
conservative house. But that was like the first time I remember like patriotism ignited in me.
And I was a third grader and I could not stop watching the coverage. And kudos to my parents who,
even though I was in third grade, they explained it on a level I could understand, but they didn't
try to hide it from me. And so that really kind of opened the door for political conversation and
the state of the country every night at dinner from there forward for my entire life. And, you know,
I'm still a proud conservative and patriot to this day, but that's where I was.
Yeah.
You know, so I was also in elementary school, but so you guys were on more eastern time zones.
So I was on the West Coast.
So it happened about 6 a.m. early.
And so everybody already knew going into school.
And I remember I didn't quite understand what was going on.
It wasn't, you know, aware of the ramifications of it.
But I do remember wondering why the teachers weren't really.
teaching why nothing was really happening and I remember that being odd at the time nowadays
I look back and I'm thankful they even showed up to work because I don't know if I would have
again you know if you're already at school and your days already started that's one thing it's not
necessarily a better excuse but we had we had a couple hours yeah you guys could have said
schools we could yeah schools canceled but but you know there are also problems that arise
and that, okay, what about parents that have to go to work
and they don't have daycare for the, like, there's
a whole different, so the teacher's
just showing up. I remember
vividly, like, this is a weird
day. Why are none of our
teachers really doing any of the things
that they do? But again, looking
back in hindsight, I go,
I'm so thankful they just
showed up. Were you in England?
No, I was, so I was,
why did you say it was an negative? No, I was,
that was later.
older than us.
Yeah, you're older than us.
So you guys were in elementary school.
I was, my dad was driving me to, I was a freshman and I was going to my first day of two
a days, or not first day.
I don't know if it was a first day, but it was like that, I remember being really
traumatized by the fact I had to get up early and go to football practice.
And so we had, you know, my dad's driving me at like six in the morning.
And so we heard it on the radio on the way to school that day.
And so I got into the locker room and somebody had wheeled in one of those TVs.
And I remember there was this guy that was, he had.
I lived in Nevada, so he, he was from Texas.
And I just remember, it's like, this Texas guy is one of our linemen.
And he was, he was, I walked into the, to the locker room and he was like, basically
shouting pejoratives about how we were going to go bomb some people or something, you know,
this text, leave it to the Texan transplant to Nevada talking about how we're going to, you know,
you know, fight back or whatever.
But yeah, I remember the whole day, we were, I was at a Catholic high school.
And so it was, it was kind of, uh, I don't think we,
did much teaching that day either we did do mass later in the day to pray but most of the most of the teachers kind of like threw in the towel and we just kind of watch the news reports so man uh someone's
oh yeah yeah no it's it sounds like Andrew you and I had kind of same thing Blake same thing because I remember taking economics test at the end of the day we tried to get out of it using the event but I do have some at the end if you answer my second question Alex will like my last thing so yeah so he wanted to know a funny stuff that annoyed Charlie on the show
or traveling. Daisy reminded
us, I'll open that. She reminded
us, if we have that photo
already, throw it up. Charlie would get really annoyed
by the temperature in the studio if it got
too hot. And so
she's reminding us, she's literally
just searching hot in here now,
L.O.L. Hot in here. Hot in here.
It's hot in here.
Just a total...
You gotta throw that up. Let me set that over.
That is so funny.
Yeah, you gotta throw this up.
Yeah. Hot in here now, L.O.,
hot in here.
Very hot in here.
Hot in here.
Too hot in here.
And then also his IFB, which that's the, these things on our ear.
When those weren't attached properly, he would be like, please fix my I.FB.
Yeah.
And fix my IVB.
Can you come and fix my IP?
Yeah.
Anyways.
I would say he, you know, he was always going 100 miles a minute and everything was very quick.
He was a fast talker.
And when he asked you a question, he could not stand if somebody didn't answer very succinctly.
Like one word answer or one sentence.
answer. If you were beyond that, he was moving on. He was walking past you or changing the subject.
You had to talk so fast. The reason I talk so fast, I think, is working here. I had to learn to get
things out quickly. He was moved on. He hated wasting time. So this is reminding me. So he used to always
complain because there's a warehouse behind the studio in here. And if they were doing work out there,
he'd be like, what are they doing back there? What's all that noise? And it's funny because you've probably
see this. There's like a picture of Charlie at his home studio. It was like, it's not really
homes too we call it that because it's closer to where he lived but it was a it was kind of
this picture i think it was from the day or two before everything happened but he's sitting there
and he's got this look in his eye going like like this do you know that picture have you seen that
image on the social media and like all the conspiratards are basically like what was he knew what did
he know like what were they doing and all it was was one of his like staffer like making noise
next to him and he was like i'm about to do a hit like what are you doing you know and and because that
was just Charlie. He just got so irritated if people
were like loud around him when he was trying to focus.
Yeah, anyway. Well, the thing that pops to my mind of the thing that annoyed him
most, Alex Clark's obsession with Taylor Swift.
Oh, that's a good. Like, there was, during one of those little roundtables,
like, we would sit there for probably 45 minutes to an hour, just talk about whatever
came up. And one of them, the last like 15 minutes was a Taylor Swift saga, where I
think Alex almost quit, almost broke down in tears, Charlie stormed out of the room.
not actually but but it was it was hilarious because he'd always be like he'd always see me he check
in how are things going to work whatever and then be like you still like Taylor Swift and I'd be like
yeah I'd be like yeah I just remember my favorite Charlie Taylor Swift moment was when he was like
he's like it better be uh you know Taylor Kelsey you better got to take the name if you don't
take the name you don't mean it don't really mean it oh yeah Daisy just said like can you guys
can you gussy he's misspelled can you guys stop being
so loud, please.
Oh, yeah.
Exactly.
And that was during a home hit.
No, seriously.
Oh, that was September 8th.
Jeez, man.
Yeah, this was during his home hit.
Yeah, that's so, okay, this is, I bet that's the one.
Throw that up.
I'm telling you, I've seen this image on social media where he's just glaring.
And I think it must have been at like Danny or Mikey or something because like somebody made a noise in there.
I want to throw it up.
There it is.
Do we have it?
There it is.
Can you stop it?
I bet that's the freaking thing.
Because it's 427 p.m.
so that was probably like a Will Kane hit or something.
My God.
Anyways.
What is these?
I just said one other thing.
Since you brought up Taylor Swift, Alex, this one's for you.
And the guys know me as sports Anthony because I work in the industry.
I do have one autograph that you would love that I have in my collection.
Travis Kelsey.
I have Taylor Swift's autograph.
And I got it when she was 16.
at a guitars and stars a concert in Rochester, New York,
and her mother had to stand next to her as she signed autographs the entire time.
That is so cool.
Keep it forever.
Don't ever sell it.
That's going to be like crazy.
Unless you're going to send it to Alex is a gift.
No, no, no.
You keep it.
It'll be, that'll be so special one day, like, you know, decades and decades and decades later.
It will.
Yeah, here we go.
No, I agree.
I agree with Alex.
But there's meaning to it.
I won't get rid of it. The gentleman who brought me was a client of mine, who I became very good friends with, who got killed back in New Orleans in a car accident when he moved home.
So it was kind of like his company was a sponsor and we have VIP. So I'll always keep it. But it's the only Taylor Swift thing I have. I don't listen to her music anymore, but I will never get rid of that.
So I knew Alice would like that. At least you're progressing. You're on a good track. We got to play it. I brought it up 79.
At least I'm not a Dodger fan.
Oh, come on.
Listen, everybody hates checkbook baseball until it makes the whole league more fun.
Okay.
Here's Charlie Kirk on Taylor Swift, 79.
This is something that I hope will make Taylor Swift more conservative.
Engage in reality more and get outside of the abstract clouds.
Reject feminism.
Submit to your husband, Taylor.
You're not in charge.
and most importantly, I can't wait to go to a Taylor Kelsey concert.
I can't say it without laughing.
You got to change your name.
If not, you don't really mean it.
Congratulations, Taylor.
You know, I just saw complete coincidence.
I saw this morning, Lyman Stone, he's a guy in X who does a lot of family, marriage stuff.
And apparently the divorce rate is 30% higher if you don't change the name.
Oh, I believe that.
Really?
I mean, that's tough, though, right?
Because you're going to be getting married.
And you're known.
You have a public persona or like a brand that's Alex Clark.
Right.
So what I'm going to do is my name is changing.
It'll change to Voteberg in real life.
And I will have that in my social media bios.
It'll say Alexandra Voteberg.
But when I do a show like this or I go on Fox News or whatever, it'll say Alex Clark.
I'll say Alex Clark on my podcast because it's confusing.
So Dolly Parton actually changed her name.
but her she was already famous or known, right?
You were the one of performing.
Yeah, yeah, I think her legal name was, I think,
Golly Parton, whatever it was.
Yeah.
Was it a Dean?
Carl Dean, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So she actually did legally change it,
but just her brand.
Yeah, it's the same thing because if I,
all of a sudden, they're like,
Alex Vopurg's coming on Fox.
People are going to go, who?
Yeah.
No, it'll be confusing.
It's fair.
Oh, go ahead.
I just went and snagged all the Alex Voteberg domain names and handled.
So that's used.
I was hoping to sell it back to Alex at a hefty profit.
She's got a lot of,
I'm just thinking of
I think the most famous person who's the most famous person who did the full name pivot
Victoria Beckham.
Yeah, I was thinking of that.
Victoria Beckham went full, posh spice, changed it.
And I feel like she drew Aura from that.
She got some prestige.
She said, I'm going to change it.
Of course, she was going to say she was married to David Beckham.
So there's also that.
Okay, should we throw this up, by the way, this graphic?
So this was, I think this was when Daisy.
found out that Travis Kelsey and it was happening during the show yeah when they
yeah so that's why Charlie's reacted to it and this is so Daisy is another Swiftie
throw this up it just throw whatever version we have it up it's fine and uh this was my real-time
reaction ago I'm going to put that on the show and then she goes permission granted I yelled it to
the office she's making sourdough so she's on the right path
and then Charlie says to his to that clip we just played L-O-L I was positive
Yeah, he was. He was like, I, you know, congratulations. He said it.
Oh, that was a good moment. Hey, we have another clip. We actually have another clip. This is great. This is an email that we got from Abby. I think the same one who called it earlier. She said, I forgot to ask, is Alex the interviewer who asked Charlie about the married to Hillary Clinton and he just keeps repeating China and North Korea. And I didn't know what this was referring to. I said this theme, they knew what it was immediately. She says it's her favorite Charlie clip. So Abby, this is for you. Clip.
Would you rather be married to Hillary Clinton or have to live in China for 10 years?
Even after all that stuff?
Still China?
China.
But I feel like if you're married to Hillary, she'd put you out of your misery pretty quick.
North Korea.
I should put you out of your misery pretty quick.
True.
Oh, that's too funny.
That's a good question.
I haven't seen that one before.
I haven't seen it.
That was great.
He had great dead pan tumor.
Yeah.
People don't understand how funny Charlie was.
He's very funny.
When you talk about,
so we got that question about when you travel with Charlie, like, and during the campaign in 24, I mean, there was a lot of just traveling like late, late night travels.
That was the one where I thought I was going to die, you know, flying into Atlanta.
And we hit that wake turbulence.
And it like the plane like flipped on its side twice.
It just kept like rocking.
And I look up at Charlie and he goes, having fun yet.
And I was like, oh, my God.
I mentioned this before, but.
But it was just those moments travel.
Charlie would make me laugh all the time.
When Charlie, every time a plane would take off as it was going down the run where he would say,
Lord bless this flight.
Yeah.
And I feel that my innovation was that I added, Lord bless this landing on the ones that I was on.
You know why?
Charlie would explain this to me.
Because Charlie's, I think grandpa was a pilot, I think, I think in World War II, but maybe it was
Pan Am too.
I forget the exact story.
But Charlie was always like, I was like, why do you?
you always do that and he was like well statistically a plane is much more likely to you know crash upon
takeoff because you know like because you know you're putting all that energy to getting up in the air
coming down you can it's kind of a glide path you know mostly um anyways michael uh mickey mccoy had a
story flying into into uh california with through lightning a big storm and charlie was just
cool as a cucumber he was a great flyer he was very calm flyer yeah there was
there's a medieval king who would fight on the front lines of battles
and he would run out in front of where the enemy fire was
and all of his subordinates would freak out
and he would just reply he's like,
God has ordained the moment of my death
and it shall not come a moment sooner or a moment later
and he just had that and I think Charlie had a lot of that about it.
Yeah, he did, yep.
He talked about that actually, don't fear death.
Can I tell a flying story?
So the first time I flew somewhere with Charlie,
we were going from like Chicago back to Phoenix
and I didn't yet know
the aggressive optimism that he had for everything
and so he goes he's like oh it should be like two hour flight
in my head I'm thinking okay two hour flight
and text my wife she's kind of nervous concerned
smaller plane text my wife okay about two hours
about halfway through the flight
I then realized no it's about a two and a half three hour flight
a couple hours into the flight
and there's no there's no reception there's no service up there
pilot comes back and says, I were stuck over Kansas,
the wind is blowing too hard, so it's another hour.
So now I've texted my wife two hours,
and it's now about four hours.
And basically everyone's trying to rest,
and I feel a tap on my shoulder,
and Charlie's like, hey, you know,
you could probably text your wife when we're over these mountains.
And about every 15, 20 minutes, he would be like,
okay, his location was on.
We're about over mountain, you'd probably get a text out.
You know, long story short, he was concerned about that because I was concerned about that and making sure my wife was, you know, not freaking out.
The funny culmination of it was ultimately I tried so many times.
My phone ran out of battery.
So I couldn't text her until I got back to the hotel, which is like six hours later.
Yeah.
But it was, it was, he was very concerned that like I had told my wife one thing and, you know, didn't exactly get there in the time that.
we planned and didn't want her worried.
That's,
there was so many travel stories like that because he was just constantly traveling.
And Blake always tells the story how he like set up a bed.
And he would just be like, okay, I'll see him 15 minutes.
Yep, yep.
And it would be so funny because he'd be quizzing, like he, for example,
he was prepping for a topic and he would just say,
Blake, tell me about immigration or something,
or the Roman Empire.
Sometimes it was just an education topic.
And he would just go, okay, tell me blah, blah, blah, blah,
okay, what else?
Okay, what else?
And you would always do that.
You just had to survive the bombardment of what else's.
like oh crap am i going to have something
and then you go and then you go all right thanks
i'm going to sleep for 15 minutes now and then just like
yeah blake was like charlie's chat gbt yeah
we like jpt which we called him um we got all these like
voice mails from people we didn't play them and i want to play some yeah yeah let's got
i haven't listened to any of these uh let's play 39
hey charley was the bravest guy
and the smartest i've ever
ever heard from.
And he inspires me
every day
to try to
be more intelligent
and caring
about history
and the future of the world
in this country.
Hey man, that was from John.
That was awesome. I want to hear another one. This is from
Kim, Sop 40.
Charlie was a David
going against a Goliath.
He was
a man of courage and I loved everything about him, everything he stood for and everything he taught
and preached about. I just loved him. I miss him so much. He was a wonderful man, a godly man,
a man of courage, and a man that all men should look up to. He was one of a kind. He was one of a kind
and so loved.
Amen.
This is kind of random.
This is from Frank.
He ran into Charlie once entering a restroom.
I got to listen to this way.
But it's really sweet because I think he was going through something at the time.
Stop 43.
I had a random meeting with Charlie as I was exiting a restroom at Amfest and he was entering.
But that was the only time I met him in person.
I think what really mattered to me was in 2020, I never felt so long.
alone, never saw so many connections leave me for unnecessary reasons. And Charlie gave us a reason
to come together. Now, I almost feel silly sometimes when I still get torn up about him being gone.
And then I listen to the Charlie Kirk show or see others in the community and realize that we're
all still grieving this together. And it makes me just feel like I'm part of something.
You know, I plan to vote.
I've always planned to vote, but now I'm voting not for Charlie,
but just to make winning harder for the people that hate him so much.
Good. I love it. He would love that.
I haven't looked through any of these other ones, but this is cool.
I love this one line. It's quick. 46.
Charlie made me want to be a better father, be a better husband,
their follower of Christ.
Amen.
So many testimonies to that one.
Oh, man, this just, this sounds strong.
Let's do 47 as well.
Charlie was an incredible human being and just an absolute juggernaut for his faith and his views and the conservative movement.
He's inspired me and millions of others across this country to pick up the torch and to continue the good fight.
I can't believe it's been a year, but man, we really miss him.
But so thankful for the time God gave him to us.
This is a long one, but reading the, yeah, from Cole, that one looks tremendous.
So I think, let's just go for it.
Let's play 49 from Cole.
Charlie, I didn't know you, and I've never met you or been to a rally.
Yet, I've listened to you for a few years.
You have helped me devote my life to being a better husband and a better father and a better patriot.
You are a living example of the promise of America, Charlie.
I've been told my whole life for 30 years that I can't change anything.
Not one man can change anything.
That the game is rigged, get right with God, and just wait for him to come back.
Looking back on your life and the tragedy that happened.
You were the man that was able to stand up and speak truth, and you made a difference.
You walked with God, and you not only influenced this state, country, but you influenced the world.
And you've shown me that one man, when they speak God's truth, can affect more change than any empire or ideology.
And that, my friend, is a lesson which I am eternally grateful.
I pray that I can shake your hand and say thank you one day.
Man, that's great, cool.
Yeah, that was tremendous.
My dad died a year before Charlie, and I asked my mom, I was like, what do you, what do you, my dad was very funny.
And I said, what do you think dad said when Charlie got to heaven?
And my mom said, he probably looked at him and said, hey, you look like Charlie Kirk.
One of my fondest memories is when he was going through the security in London,
and I heard these extremely British-sounding lads,
like they had to be about high school age.
When I'm going like, yeah, I think that's Charlie Kirk over there.
That is Charlie Kirk over there.
Just very British sounding, and I don't even know if Charlie heard it, but I heard it.
And it was so amazing.
I remember one time I took him to this golf course in Santa Barbara,
it was like, like, you know, I had this.
hook up. It was private. I was going to be left alone. And we were going to have this meeting.
And I remember Mikey, for whatever reason, stayed in the car. And it was just Charlie and I.
And I was like, don't worry. Nobody's going to bother us here. And like, you know, you're thinking like
golf course, old people. Everybody's going to leave alone. No, no, no. All these young people that
were golfing with their dads or whatever, like just swarmed him. And I, I remember just,
it was one of those realizations that, oh, yeah, like, you're really famous. Like,
because I never could fully catch up with how famous he was. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,
I couldn't internalize it fast enough.
I was like six months a year behind what he actually was.
And I remember looking at him,
just kind of going like,
I'm sorry, man.
Like, I'm really,
I thought this was going to be cool.
He's like,
it's cool.
I've just,
this is my life.
It's like,
I've embraced it.
I've absorbed it.
And,
yeah,
I think we all have those moments where it's like,
man,
he's like the freaking,
it's like going somewhere with the Beatles or something at this point.
I loved when we,
another one from the UK was we stopped at,
there was a bizarre rest stop near Oxford.
And I say bizarre because it had
five Starbucks at it. There was a Starbucks outside standalone. Then you went in. There was another
full Starbucks inside. And it had two like registers that were far away from each other such that it
kind of looked like two separate Starbucks. And then they had two convenience stores that also had little
Starbucks by a Starbucks in there. So there were five Starbucks in this one rest stop. But then just
the person working at the register really like oh, like they recognized it. And then they wanted a
photo with him. And that person
clearly looked like they were probably like an immigrant to Britain.
And so just all these people
spotting them all over the place. We stopped at a gas
station or a petrol station, I think
they call them. Did Charlie ever go to
Buckees? I don't know if you ever
did and it's too bad because that would have been a great
video. We got another video by the
way. Someone says their favorite clip
is another one. You and Charlie,
this time him talking about the car
he drove in high school. Oh, yes.
And we got this loaded up. This is
80. What were you really like in high school and what kind of car were you driving? Not much has changed.
But I did drive a 2003 Silver Ford Explorer. I went to Wheeling High School, always loved politics,
and here we are. I guess maybe there was some twist to it. Well, I think the twist is that she's
probably thinking of is I say, my first car was a Volkswagen 2005 Silver Jeddah. And I said,
if you've ever driven a Jeddah, you know, it smells like crans. And then Charlie chimed in,
and he said crayon.
He was he was correcting me.
I said no, it's crayons.
Do we have the chamber made clip?
Oh, well, let's give that one up again just because it's great.
But they say they also liked it because this person, Eva, also drove a Ford Explorer in high school.
Okay.
I drove an oldsmobile Aurora.
I don't know if that company exists.
So Charlie was definitely an old soul in, in so many ways.
But let me know when we have the chamber made clip because it's, it's like too funny.
By the way, I just want to say to anybody who has,
hasn't seen the mashup that the team put together the best of charlie on thought crime which is our
thursday night streaming show and then we put it out on the podcast on saturday but it was i mean i
i just sat there's i just dropped everything the whole team you know because we there's so much
content we constantly are you know we're not always watching everything the whole team just
gathered around the tvs in the in the in the bullpen and we just watched it because it was just so
hilarious watching all the all the best of charlie kirk and so that is the thought crime
this week so go to the rumble channel you can follow it there and or get it on the podcast tomorrow but
it's the best stuff like years of charlie just being subjected to like everybody else's humor and getting
like inundated with pop culture they had no idea about or or it was like after he got put on south
park i don't know that we're going to find the clip apparently because it's not coming up but maybe
we'll get it he he he oh it's coming ryan says it's coming back up
Excellent. It's like one of the greatest.
I think it's probably the greatest
unplanned organic moments
that happened.
Yeah. Like the South Park stuff was great, but we did know
we were going to be talking about it. We had no idea
Charlie was going to suddenly use a word
from 1750.
I don't want to say anymore
because I don't want it to like, I don't want to ruin it.
But what is this that you just said here? Oh, this
is the painting? That was a while ago.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
C.K. on a mission. Let's play this in the meantime.
This was him
in South Korea, right?
77.
Trying to find somebody taller than him.
I am on a mission to find someone taller than me.
I have 12 hours.
Wish me luck.
And then once I find them, I will pay them money.
10,000 yen.
10,000 yen to have me measure up against them
to see if I could find someone taller than me in Tokyo.
This is not a drill.
Did he ever find them?
I think he might have, but it was just another tourist.
Oh, that would have been a great Kalshi market.
Like, can't Charlie Kirk find somebody taller than him in Japan?
Yes or no?
You could get a really, like, detailed market, like, how long will it take?
Yeah.
It'd be like five minutes, 50 minutes, never.
Once we find this clip, we will wrap because we have to get Alex Clark to her next thing.
She's such a diva these days.
I'm sorry.
Now the culture apothecary is like number one on the chat.
While we wait, well, just a few more emails because we got so many of those, and thank you to everyone.
I'm sorry if we didn't get a chance to read them because there's a ton and so many of them are good.
Another Don says, I've learned Charlie was a happy warrior, but Erica is a fierce warrior.
Now I say strong lioness.
Yeah, she is.
One way to put it.
Let's see.
Melanie says, this is how I chose to honor Charlie along with the responders and victims on 9-11.
And she's got a boat photo.
She was out on the water and she had the American flag with her.
I saw a lot of displays.
Someone sent a photo of Turning Points original headquarters in Illinois,
and they got a whole display up there.
People were leaving monuments.
They put up signs.
Another woman had a Charlie Kirk memorial in her lawn outside her home.
We had Jeremy Govel from Goeval Farms in Indiana.
Indiana.
That's where I'm from.
It's southern Indiana.
So he had the corn maze.
Yeah.
And did you know that they grow those?
So they don't cut them down to make the,
corn maze. They planted that way so that it grows up. Yeah, they got a lot of backlash. So if you're in
Southern Indiana, go support them. Yeah, totally. This is a, okay, I guess we have, Jake's sending the
video right now. I can see it loading, but we're going to play this one. Oh, and on, I don't know
what they're telling me. This is, how tall was Charlie Kirk? Six five. The internet says five eight.
That's what started all of this. It was like some crazy low number. It was like comical.
510 and then it went to 6.1.
Isn't it 6.5?
It's 6.5.
Yeah.
Well, but, yeah.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Okay, so let's play it.
81.
Okay.
We're measuring you see if Charlie is actually 6.5.
There's a lot of, a lot of conversation on the internet.
No shoes on.
And we're at 77 inches.
Okay, I can't do that math.
You can't do that math?
Yeah, I can't.
72.
Yeah.
All right.
So that's, that's, that is 6.
5.
That is 6.5.
When that first was like starting to become a thing, I remember.
Google it because yeah it was like 510 and then like 6-1 and I was just like is anybody
met this man like if you stand next to him for a second what happened was he was shaking hands
with president Trump and Trump is shorter than Charlie and they on his Wikipedia page
it said he was 6-1 and they're like oh Trump says he's 6-1 but look he's shorter than Charlie
he's shrinking he's lying about his height or something like this and so Charlie just responded
to it I think it was that Brooklyn Dad account and he just goes I'm 6-5
Finally, for years, Charlie was raging against Wikipedia because you couldn't change it.
They would just go back.
And so finally, after he chimed in, it finally changed to 6'5.
All right.
So this is the end.
This is where we will drop everything.
This is Charlie on chambermaids.
Oh, here's a good one.
Here's a good one.
Do you tip the chambermaid?
Honestly, I don't.
Chamber.
That's the title, Chambermaid.
Honestly, I don't.
Is it not the title, Chambermaid?
Housekeeping is chambermaid.
You would just say housekeeping, though.
This isn't the 1920s, Charlie.
Charlie's like, come on, you square.
It's chambermaid.
It goes on for a while.
I've never heard that word used ever.
And so it's like Danny and a bikey, I think me too.
Then I start Googling like, you know, when you Google Chambermaid, it's like archaic.
The middle ages comes up.
It's like the funniest thing.
I don't know how he even knows that word.
No, who uses the word chambermaid?
Draw some water for them.
my bad.
Alex now officially has to go because she's a diva.
Let's wrap it up.
I'm kidding.
Thank you to everyone who sent in a message this week.
Thank you for everyone who tuned in.
I know a lot of people had difficulties with the stream during the day yesterday.
We're going to re-upload all of that.
It is a bunch of got up.
And the podcast episode as well has no issues.
So thank you to everyone who's honored Charlie, who's remembered Charlie.
And remember, above all, the best way to honor him is not to watch any stream.
the best way to honor him is to, of course,
give your life to Christ and make a difference in your world,
in the real world,
because that is what Charlie lived to do,
and it's what he gave his life doing.
Yeah, amen.
We love you guys.
We'll see you next week.
Thank you guys for joining.
That was so much fun.
Thanks for having us.
Yeah, fun.
It's great.
God bless you.
We'll see you next week.
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