The Charlie Kirk Show - From the Archive: The Crisis Facing Young Women with Charlie and Allie Beth Stuckey

Episode Date: August 9, 2026

A lot is said about the crisis facing American young men, but America's young women are in a crisis of their own — including young women who consider themselves conservative and Christian. At Dream City Church in 2024, Charlie talks to Allie Beth Stuckey about "toxic empathy," the dangers of self-love and self-empowerment, and how they can quickly become self-delusion. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We have a very, very special guest tonight. I've known Allie for probably five or six years. Allie is one of the most important voices in the Christian community and definitely the Christian conservative community. You know, she has an amazingly successful podcast. It's called Relatable, right? Am I right? I don't listen to every episode, but I listen to it frequently. And what I love about Allie's approach is that I will say almost the same thing that Ali says. She just said it is so much sweeter than I do. And I'll listen to it. I'll like, yeah, I probably could have said it like that. Probably could have said it like that. I mean, you know my style, right? We don't really cushion things very much. We're straight to the point. But it's not that Allie, cushions it. It's just that she has an amazingly godly way of communicating hard truths and biblical truths in a world where young ladies are lacking role models. She is a godly role model, a mother, a wife, someone who understands the scriptures very well, and somebody that we're just honored

to partner with. She's going to be speaking at our Women's Summit at Turning Point USA this weekend. she is very, very gifted and not afraid to bring the heat against this broken culture. So join me in welcoming Allie Beth Stucky. Hello, thank you so much. We're getting an extra mic. So I'm just going to fill that window. Thank you so much for having me. This is my first time to Dream City. And so thank you so much for that warm welcome. This is really an exciting week. YWLS. The first time I spoke at YWLS, I think, was 2018, it was a lot smaller than it is now and oh my goodness, it's grown. Every time I speak, I always say, this is my favorite event ever just because of the energy of all the women there. And it's very unique because we say biological females only, because that's the only type of

female there is. Yeah, we have to qualify that these days. Yep. And anyway, you'll be able to watch it online. Again, nearly 2,000 young women from a across the country, we'll be gathering in San Antonio, Texas this weekend. It's a remarkable thing, all becoming force multipliers. Allie, why don't you just take a second, introduce yourself, you know, the books you've written, your podcast, just introduce yourself to the audience. Sure. So my name is Ali Stucky, and I am a wife and a mom of three girls, so that's more important, or most important underneath my relationship with Jesus Christ. My desire to make him known is my vocation as a wife and mom. But then also, I host this podcast called Relatable. Good job. Getting the title of that right, Charlie,

where we analyze news culture, politics, theology from a Christian conservative perspective. And I talk to mostly women, ages 25 to 45, about the importance of building a biblical worldview. And the reason I did it, it was not the exact same story as Charlie. when he thought of turning point, but it was a little similar in that I was driving one day, and I just realized, oh, this is a big problem. Not 2012. This was probably 2016. I was living in a pretty conservative college town in Athens, Georgia,

used to be conservative, and I was looking around and thinking, all of these young women who claimed to be Christian, who were raised in these solid homes, this was, of course, the election of Trump and Hillary Clinton, and they did not know anything that was at stake in the election. They didn't know who they were going to vote for. I was leading a Bible study at the time.

I was a year out of college. I was leading a freshman Bible study. One of the sweet girls in my Bible study who was so smart, she told me that she loved Bernie Sanders. And that is when I realized, okay, we've got some work to do. And so I speak to mostly Christian woman. And by the way, she is a wife, mom, Trump voting conservative Republican today, thankfully, by the grace of God. But anyway, and so that's why I started to do what I do now.

I'm speaking to mostly Christian women. Okay, what does the Bible say about these issues? How do we approach these very controversial topics today that honestly most Christian female leaders are really wishy-washy, really mushy, really weak on? What does the Bible say about these things? And of course, I'm not the perfect arbiter of what the Bible says about everything. But my goal is to help us do our best and building our worldview on scripture. So that's basically my mission. And Ali is one of our most requests.

requested speakers at Turning Point USA. And we did a campus event together in Auburn. And I think that clip has been seen like 50 or 60 million times where a young lady came up and asked me, where's my criminology degree or something? It was quite a, quite an interaction. If you're about to turn 65 and you're already on Medicare, this message is for you. Charlie cared about America's seniors. He was outraged that so many were paying too much for their Medicare coverage and getting

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and say Charlie Kirk or go to askchapter.org slash Kirk. Ali, let's dive right into it. So, frequently you'll hear that there's a crisis of masculinity in America. Do you think that there is a crisis equally as much of femininity?

Yeah, I think that's a great question. And of course, they look different. And I think it really goes all the way back to the Garden of Eden. We're seeing that reflected in the West today or maybe just in the world today when you look back at Adam's sin, the sin of passivity when he stood there

as Eve listened to the serpent and took the bite that she shouldn't have taken. And then Eve hearing and being tempted to be convinced by the question did God really say? And I still see that manifesting itself today among men and women. Women being tempted by this very deceptive and cunning question, but did God really say? Did God really say on the issue of marriage or on the issue of gender, on the issue of gender roles, whatever it is that the culture today deems controversial, did God really say?

I like to say that women, I don't like to say it, but I do say it, that women are, are typically tempted by something that I call toxic empathy. Because we are feelings based, because we have sympathy and have empathy for those who are on the margins and we really want to build relationships, we very often can confuse empathy for love. And we very often can obscure the truth just because we want to affirm how someone feels.

And that gets a lot of women, even Christian women, and very unbiblical territory. When it comes to social justice, when it comes to LGBTQ, when it comes to all kinds of issues that women have a lot of, maybe rightful feelings about, but our feelings cannot obscure what the Word of God says about these things. And so I tried to navigate that as much as I can. So the idea of male and female differences,

that's a distinction that is fundamental to any society, which is one of the reasons why Satan tries to obscure those differences. Those differences are beautiful, and those distinctions are necessary for us to be able to live in a free society and live in a civil society, and we're seeing those eradicated on a daily basis. I got in a lot of trouble recently when I said, you might remember, and you defended me, by the way,

very nicely on social media, and I didn't say it as politely as Ali would have said it. but I said young ladies be careful, prioritizing career over family formation, because you might end up in your early 30s with a career but no family and lots of cats. I got in a lot of trouble for saying that. I don't care. So why, talk broadly about that. There is a trend, and you just mentioned this, the most left-wing cohort in America are not black voters. They're not Hispanic voters. They are single, unmarried, career, college-educated young ladies living in the urban cities of this country that have made a conscious decision over a period of 10 or 15 years to not get into serious relationships and not prioritize family formation. Talk about that. Yes.

Many of those women have made that conscious decision. They decided or they bought into this lie that has been propagated by the media that you can become a mom whenever. You can get married whenever. and really right now you just need to focus on you. You need to find yourself. You need to learn how to love yourself first. If you don't fully know yourself and love yourself and discover yourself and fulfill and empower yourself, then you'll never be able to be a good wife and mom and have other good

relationships. Well, what happens when you believe that lie, because it's not true, this whole thing that you can't love other people until you perfectly love yourself, I think that's actually a lie from the pit of hell. that Satan uses to defer us from loving other people because we'll never perfectly love ourselves. And by the way, we're not even called to focus on loving ourselves at all. That's an aside. But women, we believe this self-empowerment talk because it sounds good.

And so you believe that you can defer motherhood. And in an age, when we think that biology is arbitrary, the biology of male and female, but also the biology of reproduction and the female body, it sounds really. really convincing. And then, like Charlie said, I may or may not have included cats as I was talking about this, but it's a fair point. A lot of women end up realizing, oh, I didn't realize that this would be so difficult at this point. I didn't realize that I wouldn't be able to find a man right away or get pregnant very easily just because that's how female, you know, biology tends to work. Now, I will say, and this is what I also said on my show, because I have beautiful, godly,

single, 30-something friends who are doing all the right things, who, yes, they have a career, because what were they supposed to do? But they've been going to church, they've been serving, they've been trying to meet the right guy, they just haven't met the right person. And so I do also, I always want to give encouragement to that woman who feels like, oh my gosh, I've tried to do everything right, and I haven't met the man that I'm going to marry. And then they feel like, oh, Charlie Kirk thinks I'm a cat lady and I'm not. I do want to speak to that woman because I have friends like that that are beautiful, godly women and total catches.

And they just haven't found the right person is that God can use you fully, right now where you are, no matter your relationship status and no matter whether you have children, is that your life doesn't, your life doesn't start at that point. You're not in a holding pattern. You're not in some kind of earthly purgatory. You're not useless to the kingdom of God just because of your relationship status. Satan wants you to think that you're not a full woman or you're not a full Christian until X, Y, Z happens. that is a lie that will steal your joy and that will steal your usefulness for the kingdom of God. And so it's not a guarantee, one, that we're going to get married. It's not a guarantee that we'll have children.

Hopefully. I mean, that's what people hope for. But I just want you to know that if you want those things, God has it given you those things yet. You're being, you know, placed in the right spot to try to have those things one day, that you are still fully capable of being used by God right now. That's beautiful. I totally agree. For nearly 3,000 years, Homer's the Iliad, has shaped the Western imagination. As one of the foundational works of Western literature, it explores permanent questions about honor, courage, leadership, friendship, justice, and what it means to live a noble life.

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and when i sometimes hear christians tell me that we need more self-love yeah and i i would love to like find the bible verse like i mean i guess it says love your neighbor as yourself that but that That's not exactly, I mean, we're supposed to love Jesus and love God. I mean, it says in Deuteronomy 6, 3, and 5, love the Lord, your God, all your heart, soul, strength, and mind. Is self-love biblical? Yeah, you know, the only time we see this term self-love is when we are reading the description of the evils of the end times. In the end times, people will be lovers of self. And today we hear, oh, no, no, no, that's basically gospel that, uh, that, uh,

love your neighbor as yourself is also a command to love yourself. No, no, no, no. That's not what Jesus is saying. He's saying love your neighbor as yourself because loving yourself is a given. No man ever hated his own flesh but cherishes it. Now, does that mean that we always like ourselves? No, we don't always like ourselves. We don't always like what we see when we look in the mirror. Maybe we regret something that we did or we wish we could change something about our personalities or our capabilities. but we love ourselves innately in that we are always seeking to satisfy our own needs and wants to quench our own thirst to satisfy our own hunger. So in that way that you so naturally seek to meet your own needs, Jesus is saying, seek to meet the needs of other people. He's not talking about affection. He's not talking about liking your neighbor or liking yourself. He is talking about

a sacrificial kind of love that we already very naturally feel for ourselves. We do not have a of self-love in this country. Oh my goodness, we do not have a deficit of self-love. We have an overflowing of self-love. We think about ourselves way too much. We love ourselves way too much. I saw an awful statistic on X today about how suicide rates are climbing and they're so much higher than they were just 10 years ago. And it's so interesting because we have more more self-love talk, more self-empowerment talk, less shame, less stigma, more tolerance, more acceptance of everything. And still, we have this pandemic of despair.

I mean, to me, it seems obvious that despair has gone up as godlessness has gone up, right? That as godlessness has increased, people have lost their joy, they've lost their purpose, they've lost their community, they've lost their hope, they've lost their hope, they've lost their faith in something bigger than themselves. And when the God of Scripture is no longer on the throne, then we put the God of self on the throne. And the God of self is a cruel God. And it leads to the kind of despair and discouragement that we're seeing today. So no, we don't need more self-love. We need a lot more of God's love, which looks very different. And this is so important. If you go to almost any public school here in Scottsdale or around the country, self-love is the state-run

religion of K-12 education. Also paganism, environmental worship, anti-racism, transgenderism, grooming. Those are state-run religions, too. But self-love is the one that Christians fall for, far too often. And here is the, Alie, you said it perfectly. You would think that when a society starts to love themselves more than, let's just say, actions of despair, suicide, drug overdosing, aimlessness, checking out of society would go down. So as we have prioritized self-esteem or self-love, and we've de-emphasized self-control, big difference, we have seen the West collapse. Because when you have self-love, you're thinking about yourself all the time. Dare I, I think you would degree, Ali, it is narcissistic at its core. I'm the most important thing in the world, so I'm

going to go give myself a metaphorical hug, and who cares if I keep on smoking weed or watching pornography? Because I have to love myself. No, the West was built on the biblical idea of duty and obligation, of what I ought to do. And when you start thinking about the divine and others more than to think about yourself, you're actually happier. When you think about yourself, you're actually happier. when you think about yourself all the time, you will torment yourself into just basically into a corner. A human being can't survive like that. Why do you think Christians have become so susceptible to this? Where does that come from?

Because every so often I'll hear a pastor or two kind of spite, you know, add in a little bit of a self-love thing and just take a moment and think about yourself or you can do it if you put your mind to where does that come from? Yeah, I guess it's a form of therapy. at Christianity. And the therapy world is very influenced by new age philosophy. And I see this a lot among Christian women reading books that are really more new age. And the idea goes like this, that we are all on a journey to find ourselves. And that inside we have this beautiful goddess that's really perfect. And if we throw off all societal expectations, toxic relationships,

people's unfair standards, religion, rules, all of that. Then we'll unleash this perfect goddess inside of ourselves, and everything that we've ever wanted will finally become ours, and we'll finally be happy and fulfilled. Every single teacher, every single author I know that has pushed that message behind her is broken relationships, broken friendships, a lot of deceit and simply a lot of sadness. That is not the journey that the Christian is on.

In scripture, when we see self-dash something else, it's never self-empowerment or self-sufficiency. It's self-denial. It's self-control. So we already know that unleashed, we love ourselves a lot. And what that self-love looks like is giving into every feeling and want that I have. And I mean, we can look at any human being.

We can look at all of history. We can look at any toddler that we see running around and we see the terror that it looks like when someone is only concerned with what they want in any given moment. So, yeah, to answer your question, I think it's new age therapy that has woven itself into Christianity.

and they think telling people that feeling better about yourself is the same thing as the gospel and it's not. And I compare it to, I think an entire generation has effectively lived the metaphorical King Solomon life, meaning they've done everything they want to do. They've had every earthly treasure imaginable. And I encourage you guys just to open up the first couple of verses of Ecclesiastes. You'll think you're reading like a 16-year-old suicide note. I'm not kidding. He starts with worthless, meaningless, all in the world is meaningless. You're like,

is this some sort of punk rock song or something? And essentially, no, it's King Solomon who goes on and on about how nothing has any meaning and it's all terrible and awful. Now the book ends actually in a much better place because he says it actually has meaning thanks to God. But I understand the context. This is King Solomon who had everything you could possibly imagine. As Jesus says, even Solomon, all of his splendor would not be clothed. The idea of Solomon's riches is beyond anything you imagine. Anything the flesh desired Solomon had, as many wives as you would want, as many robes as you want, as much land, as territory, conquering people at his beckoning call. And the guy is writing, I'm just, nothing matters. Everything is meaningless. And again, the whole generation has effectively lived that life, which is hedonism at

its core, pleasure first above all. I will worship myself and I will not die to myself for Christ. And we're seeing the ramifications of that. Allie, our job is hard because our job is to tell a broken culture to basically repent from their vices and to go through a chapter that might be uncomfortable, but it's actually better for them. It's trying to get a country to take the metaphorical cough medicine, essentially. And the church is supposed to be the one issuing that correction to the error. How do we best do that? And I don't think I do it the best. I just know that I can, I'm more on the truth side than on the love and truth side. And I just, how do we best correct a broken culture without running the risk of being, let's just say, credibly accused

of being legalistic or too harsh. By credibly, I mean outside of the nonsensical fake Christians that issue those criticisms towards us. Yeah. You know what you said reminded me of something. And we see a lot of videos of deconstruction. I'm sure you all have heard of ex-vangelicals or the deconstruction movement and especially in the month of June.

Happy Pride Month, everybody. Actually, it's no way at Covenant Month. That's why everyone has the rainbows around, right? We're celebrating God's promise. Happy Sodom and Gomoram month is what we should. Yeah. So it made me think of something because whenever I hear the deconstruction testimonies of people who say, oh, I know everything that you guys believe, because I was raised believing that too,

and now I'm so much smarter on the other side because I don't believe it. They'll say things. It usually has to do with their sexual sin, and they wanted to give in to their sexual sin or their friend's sexual sin, and they don't want to tell their friend that they're in sin. And they'll say something like, you know, I tried to repent of that, or I tried to pray away that struggle, or I tried, you know, being holy and I just couldn't do it. And I'm like, oh, someone along the way of your faith told you that it was going to be easy. Someone told you that this sanctification business was going to be fun all the time. Someone told you that we would just be able to pray our struggles away and they would be gone the next day. and that's what the Christian life was going to look like. No one ever told you that self-denial is going to be hard from here until glory. And so a lot of the deconstruction movement, I think,

is actually because of unfair expectations that are placed on them by pastors who say that Christianity is all about just being happy and loving yourself. When it's not, we get something so much better through Christ. We get liberation from our sin and, of course, freedom. from sin and sorrow forever and ever in heaven with him. But now I'm forgetting what your question was, because I went on my aside. What did you ask?

I can't remember either. Okay. I interjected about Pride Month. How do we speak the truth in? Oh, that's right. No, no, no, no. Now I'm remembering, yeah. So I was saying that how do we credibly,

how do we speak the truth out, credibly being accused of being too harsh, too legalistic? Again, I try to do that balance. I think I end up getting a little bit too in the truth side. But I mean, let's just give an example. A young lady, you know, comes up to you and at a college event, she says that she's a practicing lesbian or whatever. How do we navigate? All of us have those conversations. All of us have those friends. How do we be love and truth, truth and grace, as Christ was, both those things? Yeah. So I recently had the opportunity. I don't always have this opportunity.

I don't go on college campuses in the same way that you do and have those interactions with people I disagree with every day. But I had this almost three-hour debate on another podcast with a teacher who calls himself, of course, this is not something that's real, but he calls himself non-binary. And he has a very large TikTok platform. He is a teacher of, I think, middle school students

and he's always talking about these things. He has his degree in statistics from Dartmouth. He went to Johns Hopkins for his education, degree. So he really felt like he brought a lot to the table when we were debating gender ideology. And I had the opportunity to really minister to him in that conversation without backing down at all. I mean, I did not back down one centimeter, not even a little bit, because the truth is so obvious and it's so easy. And I did not have to give credence to anything he said. But when he told me, which was not surprising at all,

that he was raised by two women, that he had no dad in his life and really no father figure at all, and that he was very confused by the time he was a teenager and he felt like he was in the wrong body. It was that moment that I got to say, I bet that was so hard. I bet that felt really terrible.

To feel like you aren't in the right place, to feel misplaced in your own self, I bet that was hard. But that's where you can stop. You do not have to go beyond that and then affirm their feelings. I bet that was really hard, but God made you a man.

I bet that was really hard, but we all have struggles and we all believe lies and we're all uncomfortable in this life and in our bodies. And God sent his only son to free us from those lies and the burden of sin. That is the good news.

That's the good news. Not that you get to stay in your sin. No. Jesus said that his burden is light and his yoke is easy. The burden of sin is heavy. The yoke of sin is really hard. And if we believe that, if we believe the gospel, then the most loving thing that we can always do is agree with God.

It's the most loving thing we can always do. always do. And will you still get people who are mad at you? Will you still get people who say, oh, you're mean, you're a bigot? Of course. They crucified Jesus. Do we think that we're going to be let off the hook? I mean, when you look at, for example, Stephen, he was full of grace and truth. Jesus, full of grace and power. Stephen full of grace and truth, I think I didn't switch those up, but it's basically the same principle. Stephen, he stood there and he just shared the gospel to those men. What happened to Stephen?

Did they accept him? Did he get to write an op-ed in the New York Times? He was stoned to death. And so we cannot judge our obedience by people's reaction to us. Hi, folks, Andrew Colvette here. I'd like to tell you about my friends over at Y. Reefi. You've probably been hearing me talk about Y Refi for some time now. We are all in with these guys.

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to your sexual behavior and that is who you identify as, that is a... How do I say this? That is a very... That is not the best way that you should present yourself to the world and nor should we accept that from people that we truly love. That's the best way I can say it,

is that if your sexual behavior is the most important thing to you, that's really weird. Let's just be honest. That's the most important thing, not your character, not how you treat other people, not your relationship with the divine, not the things that actually matter. And remember, before the fall is pride.

Pride go with before the fall. fourth destruction. So it is Pride Month. It's so interesting. So we have a 21 month old. We just welcome a baby boy, by the way, three weeks ago. Praise God. And so Allie and I both, we are now card-carrying members of 202, which I'm told is you get extra points for that. We're enjoying every minute of it. And so it's so interesting, we try to not watch a lot of TV, but every so often, you know, try to try and get kids program for 20 minutes or something. And there was this really creepy woman that pops up on your YouTube well before this stuff. Miss Rachel?

What a weird person this is. And I never liked her. And I was like, she's never allowed on my TV. There's like there's something wrong. Like total groomer vibes. Like big eyes, like very strange. Do you know who I'm talking about anybody? I think she's a total sigh up from something.

And what happened this last week, Allie, with Ms. Rachel. Oh. See, I probably wouldn't have described her in that way, but to be fair, to be fair, a lot of people agree with Charlie. She has these bug eyes, and she's like very weird. Okay. I don't know Ms. Rachel personally. We've also never watched Ms. Rachel in my home, but she does seem, but this is where it gets dangerous. She does seem very sincere and very sweet.

And she a couple years ago, and I talked about it on my podcast at the time, and people freaked out about it because she invited Dylan Mulvaney, the grown man who calls himself a girl and got famous from dressing up basically like a six-year-old girl on TikTok. She invited him on her show. That collaboration hasn't happened yet. She also had someone who was presenting herself as going by they, them and inviting the young audience to drag shows in Chicago. But her videos were still about speech. They were about ABC, so 10 million subscribers on YouTube, extremely popular among, you know, Christian women, millions of followers on Instagram. Well, this month, she gives a special pride message saying, happy pride. If you don't want to follow me, I don't

really care. God bless, go your own way, but I'm going to celebrate pride. She follows back up saying the reason I celebrate pride, she says, is because of my Christian safe, because Jesus tells me to love my neighbor as myself, and there are no exceptions. And so, Miss Rachel, as sincere and as sweet as I think that she probably is, she confuses, she confuses love, biblical love with that toxic empathy. Toxic empathy says, because I can feel what you feel, I have to affirm what you feel is good. And that's not the love of God. The great news is, here's great news. is that we cannot out-love God. God is love. First John 4-1. God is love. That means love is not love. God is love. And in 1 Corinthians 13, He is so gracious to give us clarity on what love is.

It's a lot of things. It's patient, it's kind. It also does not rejoice in wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. And so it is never loving to affirm someone's sin. God who is love told us what marriage and gender is in the very first chapter of the first book of the Bible. That's how much it mattered. It's pre-civilizational. It's pre-cultural. It's pre-law. That means it cannot be subject to cultural whims or political definitions or social changes. It's rooted in creation that God made us male and female. The Bible starts with the marriage. The Bible starts with the marriage and ends with the marriage. That's how important it is. that we here on earth as husband and wife

are an earthly reflection of the spiritual eternal marriage between Christ the bridegroom and church the bride. Two men can't be that. Two women can't be that. That's how important it is. That's how central the definition of marriage is. I love it. Amazing. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust,

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