The Charlie Kirk Show - From the Archive: What Set Our Founders Apart: Charlie at 2019 YWLS
Episode Date: May 31, 2026Even back in 2019, Charlie had an exceptional way of explaining what made America exceptional. At one of the earliest iterations of YWLS, Charlie explains what made Washington, Jefferson, and Hamilton... so much more remarkable than conquerors like Napoleon or Alexander the Great. Simple: Because they built a limited government that would live beyond them, rather than maximizing power for themselves and their descendants. And as a result, the American republic has blossomed to be the greatest nation in history. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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So thank you. So I want to take this time today to kind of break down the three big things we believe at Turning
Point USA. And then I want to open up for questions and we can have some good back and forth.
And no questions are off limits, but we're going to do questions, not speech.
for three minutes and then a question after that.
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We like that?
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So at Turning Point USA, we believe in three big things.
First thing we believe is that America is the greatest country ever to exist in the history of the world.
That America is the most benevolent, the most generous, the most accepting,
the most creative, the most entrepreneurial country ever to exist.
in the history of the world. So you should applaud that, by the way. And what's so concerning
to us at Turning Point USA is the rise of anti-Americanism on college campuses. Does anyone in the
audience feel as if it's almost now the predominant viewpoint to be anti-American on your campus?
Raise your hand. This is in our own country. And the media will refuse to cover this, of course,
that in our own country, we have people that want to deconstruct the prosperity.
and the excellence and a success that we're enjoying today.
But why is America the greatest country ever to exist in the history of the world?
It's not because we have the most people.
China and India have more people than us, a lot more people.
In fact, China has almost four times as many people as we do.
India, almost three times as many people as we do.
It's not because we have the most land.
Russia has almost tripled the amount of land that we have.
It's not that we have the most natural resources.
I mean the Middle East, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Russia,
they have natural gas, they have oil.
So why is, of course, we have all those things,
but that doesn't make a country excellent.
What makes a country excellent
is the ideas of which that country is founded upon
and the ideas that are embedded in that culture
that we all accept.
And there's a difference between the American culture
and the culture of Europe
and the culture of almost all the rest of the world,
something that we take for granted
that all of you have heard throughout your whole life,
which is, if you don't succeed at first, try, try, try again.
This is a uniquely American value.
We are more forgiving of failure in this country than any other country in the world.
There's almost an expectation of perseverance.
There's almost an expectation that you're going to push through difficult times
and that you're going to be better tomorrow than you were today
and you're going to be better today than you were yesterday.
If I were to describe what it means to be an American,
The first thing I think of is meritocracy.
That's a big word.
What does that mean?
That means that we reward hard work
and we reward people who play by the rules.
So simple.
Those two things.
That if you work really hard
and you make a series of good choices
for a long period of time,
you'll be able to look five years,
10 years, 15 years later,
and see your life improved.
Most of the world does not have that guarantee.
Most of the world, unfortunately, let's use India.
In India, if you work really hard and play by the rules,
for 600 million people in India,
it means their life will be exactly the same 15 years from now
that it is today.
That even if you go to the school that you're assigned to,
even if you try really, really hard at your job,
it doesn't mean much of anything.
Your life might have a slight improvement
unless there's some exception
and there's an amazing thing that happens
and someone takes a risk on you
because in India, there's a caste system.
and it's really hard to break out of that caste system.
Now, it's not as formal as it was 100 years ago,
but it's culturally a caste system still in India.
And so that's the first.
And the second thing is this really, really big word
called intergenerational stratification.
Now, what does that mean?
Essentially, that means it's the guarantee,
it's the promise that in America
that your kid's life and definitely your grandkids' life
will be better than your current life today.
And you should applaud that.
Because, again, in a lot of countries across the world that have amazing, beautiful people,
that's not a guarantee.
There's a reason why the waiting list to come into this country is tens of millions of people long,
that people dream and they go to bed every single day.
This one thing they think about is, I hope I get a letter in the mail from my embassy or the U.S.
Embassy allowing me to be illegal immigrants in the United States.
That's what's on the minds of hundreds of millions of people every day.
And so the guarantee that if you do the first thing, you work hard and play by the rules,
that your life and your kid's life and definitely your grandkids' life will improve.
I ask this question almost all the time,
and I guarantee very few people in this room can say that you have it worse than your grandparents.
Very few people in this room can say that.
Unless your grandparents were John D. Rockefeller or the Mellon family,
I almost guarantee everyone in this room.
has a higher standard of living, has more opportunity, and is more liberated than their grandparents were.
That's a sign of an excellent country.
So we go behind the values of America, just like the Christian Trinity.
Now, I'm a Christian first, an American second, a conservative third, in that order.
Just like the Christian Trinity, there is an American Trinity.
And this is from my very good friend Dennis Prager.
We love Dennis Prager, don't we?
Fantastic.
The American Trinity is three big things, the first of which is the phrase e pluribus unum,
which is a Latin phrase, which means out of many one.
When America was founded almost on the presidential seal and many of our founding documents,
this phrase kept on popping up, e pluribus unum.
It was the first country ever to be founded on unity and not division.
It was the first country that was trying to bring people together.
It was a country that, of course, we failed on that at first in a lot of different ways.
but our ability to correct from our mistakes over time is a sign of excellence.
It's not who you were, but it's how far you've come.
It's not where you were 100 years ago,
but it's the choices that you've made to be able to correct any mistakes that you once had.
Now, that phrase e pluribus unum is so important
because it's not about pitting people against each other.
It's recognizing first and foremost,
there is only one race, the human race,
and that we have more in common than ever will divide us.
the second part of the American Trinity is one word, and the word is liberty.
And a lot of people on the left love to talk about liberty.
They love to say, oh, yeah, we're all into liberty.
And for maybe two issues, if that.
But liberty's great, and we all should support it.
But you should be able to do what you want to do as long as it doesn't harm somebody else.
But you have to take responsibility for your actions, if things don't go the way you want them to
go. You should be able to start a business. You should be able to go to the school you want to.
But if for whatever reason that doesn't work out, who's responsible? You're responsible.
It's not your teacher's fault. It's not your professor's fault. It's not the patriarchy's fault.
It's none of those people's fault. Instead, you have to look inwardly as the best, as the only way
to actually change things as you see fit. The third part of the American Trinity is the phrase, in God, we trust.
It is on all of our currency, and it is a phrase that we should never forget.
At the American founding, on the principles of our country, we recognize our rights come from God, not from government.
That we recognize we have natural rights and we are born.
This is so important because, therefore, we, as the citizens here, we created the government.
The government did not give us permission to exist.
This is juxtaposed so differently than the research.
the Sowingan view or the leftist view that for whatever reason, government has to grant us permission
to do certain things. Instead, it's the exact opposite that we all gave. We give our designation,
we give our contract towards the government, and the government is accountable to us. We're the
shareholders of the United States government. And you put all this together. What does the results
look like? Well, America, despite the mistakes that we've made, never forget this, America has
made mistakes, but America is not a mistake. And we are one of the only countries ever to exist
in the history of the world to voluntarily send our own citizens to go die for the freedoms of others.
We are a country that time, when there is world conflict, when things break out, they don't call
the Belgians. They definitely don't call the French. When there's conflict, people say,
where are the Americans? Bring in the Americans.
And whether it be a natural disaster, a tsunami, a flood, an earthquake, it is American leadership.
And that goes to the other point I talked about.
We are the most generous country, the most benevolent country ever to exist in the history of the world.
America gave away, we as a country, gave away $500 billion to charity last year that we know of.
That we know of.
and that doesn't count the meals that you paid for a friend who needed it
or an Uber for a friend that was a little short of money.
That's not even accounted.
This is just money that the IRS was able to designate that went to charities.
$500 billion is the combined GDP, gross domestic product,
of almost all of Eastern Europe.
So we voluntarily gave away money.
So much money, it's essentially the entire wealth of entire countries.
I believe firmly that the best,
way to help the least of these, to help people that are struggling, is not through big government
bureaucracies. It's through churches, it's through synagogues, it's through mosques, through local
community centers. And when we lose that, when we lose looking out for other people, when we lose
that as a country, we look to government to solve our problems, all of a sudden we become worse
ourselves. You become more bitter and you become more selfish. Government will take care of that for
mean. I don't need to give to charity. I don't need to help the person on the side of the street.
We become hardened to the world around us because it's somebody else's responsibility.
When in reality, it should be everyone in this room's responsibility to lend a helping hand
to somebody who needs it. How much are life liberty in the pursuit of happiness worth to you?
This is the question America's founders had to answer. You see, for more than 150 years,
America's 13 colonies governed themselves until Britain declared they had no right to self-rule.
So ordinary people had to make extraordinary choices and risk their lives, their fortunes,
and their sacred honor to fight for independence. And against all odds, they won. And in victory,
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So second thing we believe at Turning Point USA is that the Constitution is the greatest
political document ever written in the history of the world.
The Constitution was not written for the times.
It was written to stand the test of time.
The Constitution, the brilliant.
of the founding fathers, the founding fathers
were the first victors
and winners of a conflict and a
war that voluntarily
gave up political power.
The founding fathers could have created
the Washingtonian, Franklin,
Jeffersonian ruling class
that would have ruled like kings
over Virginia, the northeast,
and the southeast. They're the first
winners of a war that
won power and then gave it
back and made themselves less powerful
after the war than they were before.
Think about that.
Could you imagine Napoleon, Alexander the Great, or Genghis Khan winning a huge military victory,
and then giving up that power afterwards, or Julius Caesar?
Any of these conquerors, these military leaders that we study,
and there was one common denominator about Alexander the Great and Napoleon and Julius Caesar and Genghis Khan,
the empires that they built that was around their savagery and their conquests fell.
because it was around them and it was around force.
The founding father studied history.
They studied Socrates and Plato and Aristotle.
They studied the thinkers of the Scottish Enlightenment.
They studied the Bible.
That's right.
The Bible had a huge impact on the American founding.
And they created a document, the Constitution,
that was not an analysis of the times,
but instead an analysis of human beings.
as much as we like to convince ourselves that people change over a period of time,
we're exactly the same today as we were 5,000 years ago in Babylonia and in the Indus River Valley
and all across the world. Human beings are very predictable creatures and especially predictable
when it comes to government. When it comes to government, human beings do the same thing time and time
again. They start with saying good things. They put someone that's,
they trust into power or that person forcibly puts themselves into power through conquest or war,
they do some good things for a short period of time, and then that power starts to corrupt them,
and it corrupts them for a longer period of time, and you might get lucky. You might win the lottery
and get a good king. You might get a good king. Good king, right? That means he's not killing people.
That's the definition of a good king. But then you know what the problem with a good king is?
usually a good king has really, really bad kids.
And then you have a really big problem.
And there's no way to correct that.
And so the founders, they studied even the problems with just flat-out democracy.
Big myth, we are not a democracy in this country.
We're not a democracy.
We should never be a democracy.
We are a constitutional republic with a democratic means of putting individuals
and positions of power. What's the difference? Well, a republic has certain truths, certain inalienable
rights, if you will, that are enshrined in the foundational pillars of that country. A democracy
is if 51% of this room decides that no one needs to own guns, it becomes that way. That's a democracy.
If 51% of this room says we need to get rid of free speech, a democracy, it becomes that way.
In a Constitutional Republic, 80% of this room could say, well, let's get rid of the Second Amendment
and we'll say, well, look, actually, it says very clearly in our Republic that these rights are enshrined upon our founding.
A constitutional republic is the greatest preventative measure from tyranny.
So founding fathers did not do what Plato tried to do.
Plato tried to create utopia.
He tried to create perfection.
This is what the left is trying to sell everyone in this room today.
And I got a harsh piece of reality.
Life is suffering.
You're not going to be able to create utopia.
It's never going to happen.
But you can create better.
You can create not as bad as today.
Because why is this?
This is drawing straight from Hobbes.
We as human beings tend to put ourselves,
in positions and put in patterns of behavior where we act very selfishly, and especially when it
comes to government. So we need a government that is not perfect because that will never happen.
But one, as the founding fathers that said, you see this system of government, this will work.
It's not going to be perfect, but it will work. Don't screw it up. That's what the founding fathers
gave us, is they never promised perfection.
is they never promised that you will be able to eradicate the ills of prejudice,
the things that the left tries to say that they'll be able to get rid of.
We just need another $93 trillion for a Green New Deal,
and that and that alone will be it.
How many more programs have they been trying to sell us for the last hundred years?
And by the way, the funny thing is every one of these programs
actually makes us less free, less competitive,
and further away from our founding roots.
And yet the promise that the left,
always tries to do is we're just one more government program away to perfection. We're just one
government program away to getting us in charge. And what makes us as conservatives or libertarians
or free thinkers so different than the left is we admit at the beginning we will never achieve
perfection. It's just not going to happen because human beings are going to act selfishly. People are going
to commit crimes. You will have corrupt politicians. But do you know what the founding fathers realized is,
all right, you will have corrupt politicians.
You can get rid of Congress people
through a vote by other members of Congress.
You are going to have corrupt members of the courts.
You can impeach a Supreme Court justice.
You will have presidents that should be impeached.
This president is not one of those presidents
that should be impeached, by the way.
And here's the method that other parts of government
can check itself,
because the government is nothing more than an expression of the citizens.
And here's the other important thing to remember
about the Constitution, is that the state,
created the federal government, the federal government did not create the states. That we were a
collection of states that came together in a federalized system. And because of that, we should have
what's called these laboratories of democracy. I love the fact that Florida is able to experiment
with charter schools and no income tax, unlike California, which is bankrupt and broken and
busting at the seams. And you could see the differences between Florida, a state that is creating
jobs, balancing budgets, expanding opportunity for minority kids, and California, which has an
increasing homeless population like you wouldn't believe, that is more wealth inequality than any other
state, that has businesses leaving it daily, that loses people with wealth that, and there's this
attack on wealth all the time in our culture and our society. You cannot
get rich in this society without making other people rich along the way.
Just because someone got rich does not mean somebody else got poor.
Got poor.
Getting wealthy in a free market system means you had to create wealth for other people along the way.
So what the United States Constitution did, and what it has done has allowed this prosperity to exist.
If you look at the differences between the French founding, which is rooted in Rousseau,
which believes not in the individual.
See, that's what's so important is that we as Americans, and we as believers in the U.S. Constitution,
recognizes the sovereignty of the individual.
You have a right to free speech.
You have a right to own a firearm.
You have a right to privacy.
I'm not going to tell you how to live your life.
The French founding is completely different.
We're a collective body.
That the individual will come second or third or even further down there.
That there is a social contract that we all exist to, and it's the government.
that really is the one that is going to be the most important thing in our life.
Now, what's the byproduct of that?
Well, you've seen France not be as successful as America over the last hundred years.
I think that's a pretty fair thing to say.
And I love some parts of France.
I'm not trying to be like, it's not like an anti-French speech.
Like, don't get me wrong.
But it's unmistakable that whether it be the entrepreneurs, the companies, the benevolency,
the charity, the forward thinkers, the authors, the writers,
The cultural influence, which founding was better for human flourishing?
Which founding was better for the individual to attain their dreams?
One that dives in mediocrity, like the French, where they basically take the entire month of August off,
where every time anything goes wrong, they go on the streets and protest it because things cost a little bit more,
because they want to blame other people.
And instead in America, we're like, well, just work harder, like get another job.
That's an American value.
and the French value is to get in the streets and blame somebody else for it.
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The third thing we believe at Turning Point USA is that we believe that free enterprise
capitalism is the most moral, proven, and effective economic system ever discovered.
Free Enterprise.
Let's talk about what free enterprise isn't first,
because I'm sure all of you on campus here
have to deal with the misrepresentations
around capitalism and free enterprise.
Let me tell you what free enterprise isn't.
It's not cronyism.
It's not being able to buy special access in D.C.
It's not being able to have the correct lobbyists
to get government contracts.
It's not having well-positioned office on K Street.
It's not having the right politicians on speed dial.
that you can get your company treated correctly.
That is cronyism.
And as we like to say, and it's a saying from, again, Dennis Prager,
the bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.
And as free enterprise capitalism, let me tell you what it is now.
It's the ability for every individual, right?
We come from that idea of the individual
to be able to buy what they want to buy, sell what they want to sell,
keep what they earn, trade as they wish,
as long as it doesn't harm somebody else.
That's free enterprise capitalism.
And what's the byproduct to that?
Well, over time, three big things happen in free enterprise capitalism.
Prices go down.
The quality of goods go up, and more people get access to those goods.
What used to be considered luxury items in Western society,
every single person has right now in this room.
In the 1980s, it was a luxury good to have a cellular phone.
It was a luxury good that most of it was this big,
and some of them were only in cars.
And now every person in this room has a supercomputer.
I'm guessing most of them are Apple.
And that has a supercomputer that the prices have been going down over time.
The quality has gone up.
When I was in high school, any high schoolers out there?
We love our high schoolers.
Thank you for being here.
Love our high school.
When I was in high school, the iPhone was just getting released.
We had those old things called eye touches.
Anyone remember I touch?
Do you remember the iPods?
to have to go like this and you have to put...
The high schoolers right now are saying,
what on earth are you talking about?
When you used to have to rotate your finger
to be able to get to the next...
I was really good at that, by the way.
It was really good.
Back and forth.
There were no apps.
There was no color.
It was nothing more than an iPod.
That's right.
An iPod where you had a lit-up screen.
This was 10 years ago.
and we laugh at it as if this was the Mesozoic era.
Only in a free market system with a key word, competition,
competing for all of your attention,
competing for all of your money,
competing for your time and your appreciation.
Could you have something that you're able to film this speech,
that you're able to take pictures,
that you're able to communicate with someone halfway around the world?
This is only possible in a free market system.
And we could prove,
it because in countries such as, let's just use Venezuela that embraces socialism and not so good
ideas, the biggest concern for most people in this room, I'm sure at times, is my phone is running
out of battery or my Uber is late or, and I'm half kidding, of course, but I'm sure these are
things that stress everyone out. In Venezuela, they're worrying, where am I going to get my next
singular meal for the week. Where am I going to get one shower for the month? Where am I going to
be able to have a place to sleep for just this one day? And then I'll worry about tomorrow.
And Venezuela, which is such an important example, has the most oil and natural gas reserves
of any country in the entire world. More than Russia, more than even the United States,
more than Saudi Arabia, more than Iran.
And only socialism could screw that up.
And they did something very important in the early 2000s.
They nationalized their oil assets.
The government took over all the oil and natural gas.
So when the government takes something over, there's no price system.
This is the argument for private property.
When there's no price system, things get really inefficient.
Crohnism takes over.
Do you think cronyism is bad now?
Just wait until government owns everything.
It would be like the TSA running our oil and gas industry.
Okay?
If you want to just make somebody a conservative,
bring them to Atlanta's airport at 5 a.m.
And say, you don't have TSA pre, you don't have clear,
and you got to get to your plane in 45 minutes.
Go.
And at the end of that, say,
are you still going to be voting for Democrats after this?
Because there's no way that you could be.
appreciate the government. And I don't mean to mischaracterize TSA workers, but I think we would
all agree that there is a lack of spirit, a lack of accountability, and a lack of energy amongst
TSA workers versus the people that work at Chick-fil-A. Right? And what's the difference?
Is that the people that work at Chick-fil-A, they're instilled with values. It's private enterprise.
They have to turn a profit. And if you don't do your job,
job at Chick-fil-A, you're not going to have that job anymore. At TSA, if you don't do your job,
you get promoted. That's government versus free enterprise. And we see that kind of tension time and
time again. And so we're at turning point you to say, believe in these three big things. And that's it.
Now, I have personal opinions about all sorts of different stuff, and you guys can ask me about
those things. And we always want our speakers to talk about any issue they want to talk about,
whether it be abortion and guns, and you guys have heard from all of that. But as an organization,
these are the three things that we believe.
We don't consider these to be political at all.
These are not things that should be Republican or Democrat
or even conservative or liberal.
These should be inherently agreed upon things as a country
that we all accept.
And so I will juxtapose the American Trinity
with the leftist Trinity,
and then I would love to open it up for questions
because I want you all to understand what we're up against.
And I think a lot of you do understand
because you're on college campuses today.
We at Turning Point USA believe,
whatever happens on college campuses,
will soon happen in the halls of Congress,
and will soon happen in corporate boardrooms.
College campuses are the canary in the cold mine.
They're the leading indicator.
They are the cultural war of things to come.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez did not come out of nowhere.
She was created in the university system.
She is a prototype of the professors.
Does anyone know someone like AOC who's constantly wrong
but never in doubt?
Anyone know her? You see a lot like her, and I'm not trying to attack her personally. I'm not.
I am going to critique her ideas, and I am going to put some criticism towards how committed she is to believing she's correct, and everyone before her was wrong.
It's a really dangerous thing to believe, that everyone before me was incorrect. What is the word that comes to mind?
And boy, that takes a lot of hubris and pride to think that everyone before you is incorrect, and you and you alone are now the standard bearer of,
of what is righteous and true.
That takes a lot of hubris and a lot of pride, doesn't it?
So what is the leftist Trinity?
Let's go through the American Trinity again,
as Dennis Prager talks about it.
E pluribus unum, which means out of many one,
that there's more that unites us than divides us.
Second, liberty, that you can do what you want to do
as you see fit, as long as it doesn't harm somebody else.
But you have to do what?
Take responsibility for your actions,
a belief in the individual.
The third thing, in God we trust,
that our rights come from God, not from government.
that is the American Trinity.
Now what is the leftist Trinity?
Not E pluribus unum.
Definitely not.
You'd be divide and conquer.
Men versus women.
Rich versus poor.
Police versus citizens.
They want to pit people against each other at all times.
It's not about unity.
It's about bosses versus employees.
It's not about finding
common ground or compromise or having differences but still understanding those differences. Instead,
it's what they did in the Kavanaugh hearing. Interruption, chaos, demagoguery, misrepresentation,
character assassination. That is what they want. What happens when you're able to divide?
The second part, you're able to conquer. When you keep an entire portion of the American population
in permanent fear, when you keep an entire portion of the American population that begins to
hate the other part of the American population.
They call us deplorables.
They call us irredeemables.
They call us clinging to our God,
guns, and religion. They call
us slow-headed. They call us the
smelly Walmart people. They call us
flyover country. They have contempt
for us. But they don't know us.
They don't.
And because as soon as they're forced to talk to us,
as soon as they're forced to have a
conversation with us, as soon as they
realize that we care about this country,
country, then all of a sudden they might hate us less. But the hate is what drives them. And they need that
to be able to divide and conquer and attain power. Because within chaos, it makes it really easy
to get power. The second part of the American Trinity we talk about is liberty. It's definitely not
liberty for the left. It's control. How can we control people? We don't want, for example,
they don't want black students to be able to go to better schools. They want to control them in
public schools. They don't want to be able to have women have firearms to defend themselves
against predators. Instead, they want to have young women living in a place of fear so that they
can control them. They don't want to actually have economic opportunity for disenfranchised communities
all across the Midwest. Instead, they'd rather give them a bunch of government stuff so they can, what?
So they can control them. That is a huge pillar of the American left. And the final thing,
In God we trust? No, no, no, the left does not believe in that.
It's in government we trust.
That's what the left believes.
At every turn, at every issue, it's not what the individual can do, it's not what people can do.
Instead, it's what government can do.
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Or the government will do it better than we can.
And that has never, ever been the case.
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stage so hey charlie so what would your response be to someone who says or asks why you hate socialism
if we have socialist programs within our country right now and we're a mixed economy great i get
this question all the time so people say oh charlie you know you don't you you you say you hate socialism
but what about the roads and what about the bridges and what about Medicare and what about Social Security and all these things?
So let's break this down.
Who here has heard this argument before?
Anyone heard this argument before? Good.
So let's define what socialism first and foremost is.
Socialism, and they can't escape this, and Bernie Sanders believes this.
Socialism is the constant march towards the eradication of private property and government control of production.
Okay?
It's that constant march towards that.
Now, we as conservatives, and we as libertarians are freedom thinkers and freedom lovers,
we are not anarchists.
We do believe that there are some things that government should do.
Police, fire, roads, bridges.
But we also recognize the best way to do that is what?
Local.
Local police.
We don't want to federalize our police force, right?
Local firefighters, where you have a local fire station, local schools, right?
We don't want common core.
we want localized control of education.
And with that, you're able to have accountability
towards where that money is actually going.
And you're able to see what you're paying into.
Now, if you have a problem with that,
then you can go to your school board meeting.
You can go to your local city council and say,
I don't like the fact that it's taken three years
to reconstruct this road.
This is not right.
And they're going to feel your pressure
because they're going to have to see you at football games.
And they're going to have to see you
at the grocery store.
And they're going to have to see you
everywhere they go in the community.
You know what's the problem with D.C. is?
There's no accountability.
In order to go see your elected officials,
you've got to get in the plane, go to D.C.,
and maybe they'll take a meeting with you.
Maybe.
And that's the beauty of localized control.
Bernie Sanders, for example,
one of the big things that Bernie Sanders pillar,
just so you understand,
is this thing, Medicare for All,
which is the complete nationalization
and government takeover
of one-sixth of the American economy,
the health care industry.
One-six.
That's the eradication of private.
property. That's telling private doctors they can't practice anymore. That's telling private
chiropractor clinics. I'm sure some of you go to chiropractors. Chiropractors have been really
great to me in some ways. You can't do this anymore. It has to all be run through government. So it's the
constant march towards the eradication of private property. The final thing I'll say is this. They use
Social Security and Medicare all the time to say these are socialist programs. Let me tell you why that's
wrong. And then I'll give you a piece of kind of a little piece to think about in response to that. Number one,
people pay directly into Social Security
as a proportion of the wages that they earn.
So they have a job throughout their life,
and all of you see that in your paycheck right now.
I actually think young people should be able to opt out of the Social Security tax,
which would be a 7% raise for everybody.
They shouldn't forcibly take our 7% of our earnings every single paycheck.
But you pay into it, and you're able to see,
hopefully, that money actually doesn't go to a trust fund.
That's the other part of it.
And so here's the other criticism towards it.
If their idea of optimal socialism is really Social Security,
which has not in a trust fund and is going to be bankrupt in five years and is going to run a deficit,
if their optimal view of socialism is Medicare,
where we have over $50 billion of documented waste every single year,
that's their idea of optimal socialism.
I actually am not crazy about that.
And there's a lot ways where it could be those benefits that people pay into,
lot better. And I'll say for us young people, we should we should not be forced to pay seven percent of
our wages every year annualized for the rest of our life to something that we might see. How many of you
are so sick and tired of getting your paycheck? And it's way less than you think. The government is
stealing your earnings every single paycheck for a promise that they're not going to fulfill.
And they say they will and they're not. This would be the biggest tax.
cut for students and young people and middle-class workers the country has ever seen.
But instead, corrupt politicians want to keep a bloated federal government going, and they're
taking the earnings of every single person in this room.
So thank you for this question.
One or two more?
Okay, one more.
Last one.
Hi, Charlie.
My name's Lauren.
I'm from Las Vegas.
I'm a big fan.
I went to school in San Francisco, and I was liberal in my entire life, and now in the last
year, I've become kind of conservative.
Give it up.
A conversion story.
Thanks to you as well.
Thank you.
But I feel like, you know, when I was a liberal, I looked at people on the right, like the bad guys.
Like, they were evil.
And now as a conservative, I look at people.
Like, we're always talking with the left and like those people and the leftist and liberals.
And it just feels so divisive.
And I'm wondering, is there a more productive way to have a conversation?
Is there a way to humanize people?
Is there a way to look at people's Americans?
instead of looking at it like the left and the right
and always like demonizing people.
Yeah, great, great point.
Thank you.
And so, and welcome to the conservative side, by the way.
Thank you.
And so,
one of the great things I get to do every single year
is go actually to college campuses and speak.
I see our NYU chapter leader, Asha, right here.
Who else had a campus clash on your campus?
Raise your hand.
That's awesome.
And Asha will tell you, you'll tell you,
What do we always do when we ask for questions?
We ask for the disagreements to go to the front of the line, right?
In fact, we demand it, right?
We, like, extract the disagreement.
And I think, and I'm not, and you guys can make your own assumption looking at the videos,
we always treat everybody with respect,
and we listen to what they have to say.
In fact, we want it to be a forum of discussion and debate and dialogue
and that collision of ideas.
I totally agree, because I think there's too much.
division and divisiveness. Then we do the same thing at the end of every one of these events.
Is then I'll ask the audience, I'll say, how many of you have gone to see some liberal speak on
campus at some point in your college career? Many hands will go up. So did any of them ever
demand that conservatives go to the front of the line and ask questions? Say no. And so we have a
responsibility as free speech advocates to be the ambassadors of decency and respect. We do.
to hear what other people have to say and to find common ground.
Now, some of you have seen my videos when people really start to go up and irritate and they just poke,
well, then they're going to get the cross-examination that I'm happy to deliver with facts and a deliberate approach.
And so, but first, I just want to say that's an amazing testimony,
because we are seeing thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions of people,
stop being liberals, leave the left, and come to a different side.
I think it's truly amazing.
So thank you for that.
And so in closing, let me just say this before we introduce our amazing next speaker,
who's totally terrific.
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you now get the three big things that we believe.
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And in closing, guys, young ladies, you have such an amazing opportunity in front of you,
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And we at Turning Point USA have your back through everything.
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