The Charlie Kirk Show - From the Archives: Charlie On Why Churches Must Engage the Culture

Episode Date: March 15, 2026

In this classic speech, delivered just as lockdowns were ending in spring 2021, Charlie reflects on the lessons from the COVID era and why Christians cannot retreat from the public square. He explains why the real threat was never the church influencing government, but government controlling the Christian church.   Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!  Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by Preserve Gold, the leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends, and viewers. I really want to focus on the five things I learned in the 15 days to slow the spread, which has been a whole year. And it's been very interesting. But one thing I've heard a lot of pastors say

that don't want to get involved is they say, well, it's separation of church and state. We don't do politics around here. First of all, that's not biblical. It's not constitutional. It's not moral. But let's take their unbiblical, unconstitutional, moral phrase at face value. Let's just pretend they're right for a minute. Why don't we keep

the state out of the church then? Why don't we say, hold on, the government has no business what happens in here? Because under their own belief, they've always been worried about the church taking over the state. When reality, the threat has always been the state taking over the church. And so that's what I want to focus on here. And just so everyone has a little bit of a baseline. I am an evangelical Christian, a Bible-believing Christian, it's the most important thing in my life. For those people that are here that have never been in a church before, welcome. And I encourage all of you, and throughout this speech, I'm going to hopefully make a case that you need Jesus in your life. There's a God who made you in his image, and he wants to get to

know you, and he wants to get in a relationship with you. And why I do what I do, at turning point, why I speak at churches is of course to spread the gospel, but I believe that's the most important thing you can do, but if you don't have the freedom to spread the gospel, we're all going to be sharing the gospel from prison. And I am not exaggerating. And it's happened time and time again. That pattern replicates itself. And so the gospel in four words is Jesus took my place. In three words, it's him for me. And two words is substitutionary atonement. One word grace. Justice, mercy, grace. What's the difference? Justice, you get what you deserve. mercy, you get less of what you deserve. Grace, someone serves the punishment for what you deserve

so you can live free. That's what we believe. That's what gets us into action every single day. So, one thing I'm called to do is to try to activate churches and Christians to stand up in this moment. It's a Cairo's moment. It's a Greek word for action point. It's a biblical word. So what are five things I learned in the last year of the 15 days to slow the spread? First of all, number one, science, reason are dying if not dead. One of the most pathological things we have seen in the last year is people say trust the science and in reality they have no business whatsoever ever caring about the science. I'll prove it to you.

science i believe the more we explore the scientific world the more it actually proves the word of god thomas aquinus was the first person that actually wrote about this for example a spherical earth quarantining the sick not the healthy are all biblical ideas you could find that in leviticus the idea of life beginning at conception all of these things are in the bible thousands of years ago before the scientific discoveries were ever done. The more we learn the scientific realm, the more we realize that belief in the world around us without an intelligent creator takes far more faith in that

than faith in believing that there was actually an intelligent creator that created you in his image. I don't have enough faith to be an atheist. So science and reason, trust the science, they say. They never believe that. What they're really saying is trust the scientists that we put on television that are wrong about everything. Dr. Fauci should be fired immediately. It's true. I'm not going to get into his personal character. I don't know the man, but he has no wisdom. Zero.

This is one of the greatest disservices that we have ever done to young people. We fill them with convenient facts that fit a narrative, yet there's no wisdom. Why? Where does wisdom begin? What does it tell us in Proverbs? fear of the Lord, then you get wisdom. There's no God in our schools. There's no wisdom. And Dr. Fauci is a perfect representation of it. There's no wisdom in that man. Zero. Just power, fear-mongering, and what I call safetyism. So let me prove it to you. Trust the science, they say. Okay. If you've already had the Chinese coronavirus, why do you have to get vaccinated? It's a simple question. I have the antibodies. They say, first they say masks don't work. Then they say we're a mask when shower, then they say wear two masks. And by the way, I am mask agnostic. I don't mean, if you're

wearing, no, I really am. No, I mean this non-sarcastically. And there's people here wearing masks, and there's people not wearing masks. And I mean this, we should never insult people that wear masks. I say that non-sarcastically, because we believe in liberty. If you believe they work, then wear a mask. If you don't believe they work, then don't wear a mask. It's really not that hard. It's not hard. What I came up against is the mask mandates that you're going to go and into a private place of worship or enterprise and say, I'm going to force you to do something, which is so incredibly philosophically ironic

for the people that say, my body, my choice. Reason and revelation, the mixture of both built Western civilization. Reason is our capacity to solve problems in a chaotic, natural world. Math. Yes, science. What is the scientific method? Are we using it?

We're using the opposite. we're using an unchallenged, unquestioned premise at all costs. And so I understand the initial, the first two weeks where we slowed down and we said, we don't know what we're dealing with here. What is this virus? What are the mortality rates, the infectious rates? Who's most at risk? But when two weeks became a month and it became two months and we realized who was at risk, what we needed to do to protect those people, provide services for those people, Every school in the country should have opened instantaneously.

And so what ended up happening under the guise of, well, trust the science. You see, that's a conversation ender because no one ever wants to be on the wrong side of science. But science is always about constant and persistent inquiry. Always. So Galileo, again, our children don't learn any of this stuff. They learn about like Angela Davis or Nicole Hannah-Jones or Frank Marshall-Degro. Galileo, who challenged the predominant view of the gravitational, how the earth or the sun interact. Are we the center of the universe or is the sun the center of our galaxy?

And he challenged it. It's a heliocentric theory. And he was actually imprisoned for it. And the idea of challenging something that is dogma is always the right thing to do. Now, what's amazing is the more you challenge the truth of the Bible, the more it actually proves itself to be true. We should never be afraid of inquiry of the Bible. I tell people all the time, go find me a cheerful, successful, happy person that is not living consistent with the tone and tenor of the Bible. They might not be saved, but the truths of the Bible

are always true. That there is a God that created you in his image and he wants to get back in a relationship with you and he's sent an intermediary for you to make that possible so that you might have eternal life because we are broken and you're not going to get there on your own. You know, we spend a lot of time on this show talking about culture, about why strong families matter, why values matter, why faith matters. But here's something practical. If you actually want to build a strong family someday, you have to start by meeting someone who shares those same convictions. And in today's dating culture, that's not always easy. A lot of apps are built around casual connections, instant gratification, no long-term vision. And that's just not what many of you

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And I say this completely honestly. I don't remember your governor's name because she's not worthy of remembering her name. I mean it. No, it's actually true. It's true. So if you study the Bible, names mean a lot. Simon Peter, Rock, right? One who struggles with God.

I don't care about her name because she has not done anything wise or moral for me to remember it. So the tyrant who runs your state, that's how she will be referred to for the next couple days. And I hope she's watching and I hope her public health office is watching. I hope they're all watching.

Every one of them. Steve is loving all this, by the way. You could just tell him. She will have to answer for what she did for the children of this state by keeping schools closed. She will have to answer for the drug overdoses. She will have to answer for the suicide rate increases. She will have to answer for the 40% of small businesses that will never open again. She will have to answer for that.

and our whole team of people that say trust the science. Now, here's how you know that they actually don't believe what they are saying because they constantly violate their own orders. They eat at French laundry with all of their friends like Gavin Newsom. He keeps restaurants closed and then he dines amongst his other friends. If they actually believed in the mandates they were putting forward, they would live by them.

This goes to number two, and I have to stay on schedule here because usually around like 40 minutes, I just start to get warmed up. So I got to work within the framework here. Okay. Number two. The difference between states matters more than I ever realized. And I come here to New Mexico, and you guys are a victim of this. And I don't like saying people are victim. is actually against one of my main messages.

But it's unmistakable that you have been abused by your governor and your government in this state. Truly. Other states like Florida, with the second oldest population in the country, have lower hospitalization rates, virus death rates, right? Rates are more important than total macro number. I was arguing with someone on the left, and they said, well, Florida has more deaths than New Mexico. And I said, well, yeah, because they have 10 times the population.

It's a little bit of a, again, wisdom. It's not exactly taught all the time. So, and this state has failed the test. It has. You're seeing increases in crime, carjackings, violent crime, teenage issues, the likes of which that will take a generation to solve. where other states have decided the New Mexico, California, New York, Illinois model, they remain shuttered. What about states that are open?

Florida is a great example. South Dakota is another example. Texas opening no masks, no social distancing, no orders. And I know this hurts in New Mexico. But let me tell you how it could be worse. Imagine the whole country was New Mexico. No, I know. This is a very important point.

The states created the federal government. the federal government did not create the states. We are a federation of states that give up our sovereignty to a federated government. The German model, the Belgian model, the French model, the Italian model. It doesn't work that way. When an order comes from the centralized government, everyone follows it. The provinces have no say whatsoever. So liberal justice Louis Brandeis talked about the laboratories of democracy, the differences between states.

And so now hopefully this is a great teaching lesson to a lot of your friends here in New Mexico. The fact that you have not had a Republican legislature in 90 years, I think since you officially became a state, that elections have consequences. That you pay all this in property taxes, you pay all this in sales tax for shuttered schools, declining education rates. Meanwhile, your neighboring states have open schools and open businesses and lower virus death rates. And I would hope this is an awakening moment for the people in New Mexico. I hope this is a moment where we say, we're not going to take this any longer. And I want to actually, I want to build on that point, which is people have said that Steve and your church is in violation to the governor's orders. In fact, one of the other pastors here who runs a Calvary chapel, he's a complete fool, I must say, he really is.

No, he's a total fool. And I read what he wrote, and he has no wisdom because he attacked your pastor for opening. And he says, how dare you violate the governor's orders? I say, hold on a second, but governor is violating his. freedom and your freedom. You got it all wrong. The idea that the sovereign is somehow the government is so backwards. It really shows, and I'll get into this in a second, that too many pastors in this country have no idea why we were founded, our foundational ideas, how exceptional this country is, how it actually is a gift from God, the greatest experiment in civil government in world history.

So to believe something like that, you must have believe that the governor is in charge and you're the subject. What makes the American model different is that the citizens are in charge and the government works for us. It's completely different. Therefore, and this is why the Constitution is the greatest political document ever written in the history of the world, it says it comes from the belief that you naturally made in God's image have rights, a right to consciousness, right? right to movement, a right to speech, or right to protection, a right to buy an own property.

And the biggest concern the founding fathers had was not first and foremost what you would do with that freedom. No, no, the first concern they had is what would happen if someone tried to take your freedom away. So therefore, the compact that we have in this country, the partnership, if you will, the way it was designed and a way a pastor should articulate it, is they took the teachings of the Bible, the revelations of the Enlightenment, articulated them

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Just go to why refi.com and tell them your friend Andrews sent you. Now, people say, what about public health? If everything in life was about sacrificing liberty for safety, that we must have a very different conversation of what we have in our country. I wrote a sarcastic piece that actually, unfortunately, satire is quickly becoming reality. Dr. Seuss's band, no men, no women, men and women's sports, Aunt Jemima, gone with the wind. No, it's like, things that would have been sarcasm five years ago, I cannot tell if I'm reading the New York Times or the Youngians sometimes. I mean that. It's true. And so something I wrote sarcastically that I guarantee you,

will be pushed by somebody is if we were serious about saving lives and liberty is not a value we care about, let's get rid of driving. Seriously. And though they will argue this because of the environment, because of climate change, all these things. 50,000 people die on the road every single year. 50,000 people. But no rational or reasonable people that has actually benefited from motorized transport, the liberty of having such would argue that the abolition of all transportation, is something that a mature or wise society would do. Instead, we'd say, well, let's figure out a safer way to transport ourselves. Seat belts, airbags, traffic lights, removing licenses from people that get multiple accidents. See, that's what a mature society does. Yet our handling of the pandemic,

or what just happened here, was the exact opposite. It was as if at all costs, we must embrace a belief of safetyism, that freedom and liberty does not matter. And this is a very difficult thing to tell you. Liberty comes at a price. When you have liberty, here's the promise. People will abuse it. There will be consequences. There will be things you might not like. But however, we accept all of that because the benefits far outweigh any of the costs. The same with gun ownership. We love the Second Amendment, right? We make this argument all the time. That private gun ownership, there will be people that abuse that technology. But the benefit of owning it and having it far outweighs the potential cost. And we have lost that altogether. Which I find so amazing for all the people on the left that are constantly arguing for drug legalization and all the other things. They say, oh, we should be allowed to do whatever we want to do, whenever we want to do it. But you must wear a mask when you're inside.

At some point, the Leviathan government implodes upon itself. Okay. I have to stay on schedule. Over the last hundred years, who has been more successful? American Christians or American leftists? American leftists, and it's not even close. The fastest growing religion in America's leftism. It's not even close.

People say, really, yes. Do you see how many churches are embracing BLM Incorporated? You see how many Christian pastors are embracing this sort of belief? Over the last hundred years, we are now seeing the secularization of America. If you don't believe in God, then right and wrong is merely an opinion. This drives atheist nuts when I say it, so I will repeat it for emphasis. If you do not believe in God, right and wrong is merely an opinion. And people say, well, I know what's right.

through life experience. You see, this is exactly, this is a huge missed opportunity by the American church. You ask most college kids, you go to University of New Mexico, and you ask someone there, and you say, do you believe people

naturally are basically good or basically bad? They will say people are basically good. You must have gone to a college to believe something as foolish as that. It's true. You see, if you grow up in a wealthy, generous, benevolent society as America, where things generally work, it's easy to get

desensitized to the belief that people are just naturally generous to each other. This is the exception. We know this. The Bible tells us this clearly. Original sin, distance from God. It's who we are naturally. And I can prove it to you. Do you have to teach goodness to a three-year-old? Yes. Do you have to teach a three-year-old to lie, steal, cheat, or manipulate to get what they want? No, it's built into their DNA. They figured it out. We have whole schools and academies, repetition, and discipline to teach goodness to our children. Why? Because creating good people is hard. And most countries have not been able to do that. So in the 1940s and 50s, we used to teach young people, you are the problem and America is awesome.

Now we teach young people, you're awesome, and America's the problem. Where now young people, students are not told, you might have to improve your life. Instead, go destroy the country around you, and that will create a better place. No gratitude for what came before them. But the point I really want to make here, which is the more condensed point,

I asked about the religion of leftism and Christianity. And Christianity in America, this church aside, has grown weak, complacent, and quite honestly complicit with some of the most sinister political movements that I could possibly put my finger on. The church, and this is a tough realization, is far weaker than I thought. It really is. The church founded this country. It's that simple.

People say, this country is not founded on Judeo-Christian principles. anyone who said that has no understanding whatsoever of Blackstone, of John Locke, of the writings of Thomas Jefferson, the belief of the founders, George Washington, regular church attending, God-fearing Bible-inspired, courageous men and women, Abigail Adams, but we should be unafraid to say men without having to, like, qualify it. So courageous men, I think that's an okay thing to say, right? And so this is going to be a deciding. moment for the church. So Rick Warren, who played an impact on my life, and some pastors don't like the fact I call these pastors by name, tough. Rick Warren, who runs a church, saddleback church, and he had a really

big impact on my life on finding Jesus and the gospel, but he is failing the test currently, unbelievably. So Rick Warren comes out, and this is so unbiblical, it's hard to even unpack in the 16 minutes I have remaining, where Rick Warren says, God does not care how you vote. In fact, he said there's no difference between each side. Now, I'm not here just going to say that Republicans are awesome and Democrats are awful. I'm not going to say that. I'll get close to it, but I'm not going to say that specifically, right? No, but the second part of it. The point is God cares about everything you do. What does God not care about what you do? God cares about what you say, who you marry, how you act, what you eat,

you travel, what work you participate in, this kind of idea that God somehow gives a permission slip, a moral pass to any one of your actions is completely antithetical to the idea of an omniscient, omnipotent creator that cares about everything you do. More importantly, voting is a reflection of your values. Voting is you getting into the public square and saying, this is what I believe, and I want to at least have a singular moment where I can reflect that. Imagine being a young woman just finding out that you're pregnant, not knowing where to go or what to do, not even knowing exactly what is going on in your body. While the whole world tells her it's just a clump of cells, you and I, we both know the truth.

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the pre-born banner at Charliekirk.com today. Again, that's 833-850229 or click on the pre-born banner at charliekirk.com. By the way, let's just be clear. Voting is like the minimal that a Christian should be doing in the public square. So some pastors like Rick Warren will come out, or Andy Stanley from Georgia, they'll come out and they'll say, well, Christians should not be involved in politics. Who's heard this before? This is the enemy whispering in your ear. It is unbiblical. Daniel, Mordecai, Esther, Jeremiah, Nehemiah, Joseph. What are we supposed to do with God's people influencing secular government for his purpose? What are we supposed to do about that? Now, your pastor here had a Daniel moment and he passed. Remember what happened in Daniel? He did. In Daniel, Daniel was a

counselor to the king. That is the role of Christians. Counselor to the king. Remember that. We're always supposed to say, there's a sovereign government. We are the sovereign. We have given our permission to this government. We should be influencing that government for God's purpose. We should be running for office. We should be voting. We should be running candidates. We should be participating, watching broadcast. We should always be influencing secular government for God's purpose. So how did your pastor pass his Daniel moment? Well, in Daniel, I think it's Daniel 6, the king, who he was a counselor to multiple kings, I think it was Nebuchadnezzar, said basically, you're not allowed to follow the traditional

Jewish law. You can't pray. So you know what Daniel did? Went home and opened up his window to the city and say, watch me. That's your pastor passing the Daniel moments. So this is the moment. It's this simple, and I'll get to it in my final one, but the church built this country. The left, the secularists, the nihilists, the people that believe there's no difference between men and women,

the people that want your borders open, the people that want to keep you shut down, you know what they fear more than anything else is an active church. They fear it. This is why they try to, like, snakes come into the church and say, don't get involved in politics. There's no difference between the two parties. Abortion's not that important. You don't have to do that. And they just say, calm down your involvement.

And you know what some pastors say is, I only care about the gospel. So do I. That's why I care about politics. For example, the gospel, what does it mean? Good news. If all of a sudden the church is deemed non-essential, how exactly are we supposed to spread the good news

and they always come for the church? Now, understand, they first come for the churches they don't like. You see the Calvary Chapel down the street, the pastors who name, I forget, who writes bad things about your pastor, who attacks your pastor, they won't touch him. It's hilarious. They actually find him for doing the candlelight thing. But they'll touch you first. They want the disagreeable church to be silenced. Here's why. Is they know the only thing between them and their power grab is people that spend 30 minutes worshiping something that isn't government.

You just spent 30 minutes admitting, whether you realize that or not, if you participated in that worship, is you, governor, don't matter as much as my Lord, therefore I take my orders from them and not from the governor. It's true. So, this is a great opportunity for the church.

I'm going to blitz through the last two. Number four, it's a little bit of a depressing, more philosophical one. I'm going to build this out in the next services. So if you guys want to come, we're doing three of these tomorrow. right? I'm going to do this one really quick, which is people don't want to be free. It's a tough one. I could prove it to you biblically. You ready? Moses, who God used for his purpose, the administer of the law,

liberates God's chosen people, the Israelites. They were working as slaves. They were literally slaves. You want to talk about slavery? The liberation of slaves. They're in the wilderness. What do they do like two chapters later? They start complaining and they say, take us back to Egypt because at least we had meat. I kid you not. They said we prefer comfortable slavery over dangerous freedom. It's right there.

Freedom is hard. Really is. Freedom and responsibility are directly tied together. What a lot of students say that I care about freedom, it's like, maybe you do, but if your perception of freedom is just putting whatever substance you want into your body, what making any moral decision you want, and somehow that is going to bring you to a place of peace, you're going to be a slave to that entire process. What makes Christ so different, even just from, and obviously I believe Jesus is

the Son of God and an equal part of the Trinity, but just from a purely philosophical point is that everything Christ stood for was about liberating you from your past choices. It's unbelievable when you think about it. There's nothing else like that. It's always about like self-improvement. All that stuff is great. Proverbs can be applied to most of it. But what real, you want to torture somebody? You know what the purest form of torture is? Dwelling on a past mistake that you have made and never getting redemption. Think about that. There's nothing worse. Jesus says, I will liberate you from that decision. I will liberate you from that. I will set you free from the sin. But however, that word free is a difficult word for some people. So we as Christians understand

freedom in a different level, right? Most of the rest of the world isn't ready for that. Therefore, they would rather be taken care of. And so we have to understand that in order to communicate what we believe in, we must say that freedom is a value. Dennis Prager talks about this. It's a provocative thing. Freedom is not natural. Left to their own devices, people will be terrorized or terrorists. They'll be slaves and there will be masters. They will be oppressors and oppressed. It's Western civilization that changed all of it. So freedom must be taught. You have to tell a three-year-old that you must demand freedom, but you also make good, you must make good choices or else you're going to be a slave to your decisions. Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here. I'd like to

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And remember, Y Refi doesn't care what your credit score is. Just go to Yrefi.com and tell them your friend Andrews sent you. You know what else is a value? Children. This is a very, we don't talk about this enough. Having children is a value. Do you know that we're on pace to have 500,000 less children this year than last year? Every expert was wrong.

Go figure. So they figured this. They said a lot of people at 100. home, not a lot to do, we're going to see a baby boom. Opposite. Why? Because children's not a value. Why would I have children if I don't believe in the need to replicate my values? Why have children? I'll participate in the act of having children, but we have the technology to allow me, technology to allow me not to have children, so I'll choose not to. So we are on the verge of a population collapse. Why? Because we have not properly communicated.

the need to have children. Thankfully, we as Christians have a pretty easy answer to that. It's biblical to have children and to multiply. But for the rest of the world, they'll say, why do I need to recreate myself? This world is so broken, it's terrible. If I believed what the left believed, which is this is the worst country ever,

we're going to die of global warming, everything's racist, why would I have children? I mean that. What a terrible place to have kids. why would you want to bring another life into this broken world? We say, you know what? No, we're commanded to do it. You must replicate your values. You must pass down your ideas, and we'll be fruitful and multiply.

You see, everything is a value. We take so much for granted. And you're going to see 20 years from now, all of a sudden they're going to be like, the Earth's population is decreasing. Not increasing. Remember they said, oh, it's going to be a population, boom. No, no, no, no. if you do not have a reason to multiply people will not same with same with freedom okay last point is this

and this is the biggest point for the church for america for all of us this is either the beginning or it's the end it's really that simple so almost every institution that came before us has been completely delegitimized in the eyes of america i don't trust any new service basically anymore I don't trust the tech companies. I don't trust the colleges. I don't trust the teachers that teach our kids. There's some great teachers out there, but generally I don't. I don't trust the curriculum.

A lot of the churches have gone astray. Okay, what does that mean? What's the biblical thing to do in a time like this? When God scatters, when all of a sudden there's chaos and confusion, do we hide and retreat and we kind of wait? And so some people have a firm belief, eschatologically, that Jesus is coming next to Thursday. You might be right. That is not an excuse for inaction. Some people, and I'm going to be this as loving as I can, they use eschatology as an excuse not to contest in the public square.

And there's a lot of robust debate in there. I don't get into any of it, to be honest. Here's what I do know. People say, the house is on fire. We got to get the kids out, protect our own little circle. How about you put out the fire? How about you put out the fire and you build new? And that's what we must do in this moment. So in this moment, we are at a time where people are going to be looking for truth more than ever. This will either be the moment where the church, we're Christians, or even people that have never come to a church before, people that love freedom or our country will be courageous and bold or will be fearful and cowardly. So what does that look like? People say, then what do I do? What's the action step? Because I don't like just giving speeches and then people

like, well, that was nice, but what exactly do I do? Here's the action step. We got to start taking terrain. You got to run for school board. You got to run for mayor's races. You got to start taking terrain. Number two, you have to take the education of your children unbelievably seriously. If you can, homeschool. If you're retired, help a homeschooling parent. If there's a private school that's doing a good job like your academy, then maybe volunteer, do whatever you can to help the education. Education comes from the Latin word to lead forth.

Are we leading forth well right now? No. What happens on college campuses will soon happen in the halls of Congress and in corporate boardrooms. And so if we do not reverse the educational decay in our country, then nothing will get solved.

But here's the other thing that I think is so exciting. And it's the Genesis 11 principle. And you guys would understand this better than anyone else. they are pushing the boundaries of what God has allowed human beings to do on this planet. God will scatter them like he did the Tower of Babel. He will. The question is, will we be hiding in our caves and our catacombs, or will we be contesting and occupying, building new companies, starting new endeavors, getting married and having families and having children, and yes, being unafraid of whatever the local tyrant might be. might say because you're hosting a religious service. And here's what's going, here's the amazing thing

is that when you step into that public square, the ecclesia, the ecclesia is a biblical word where if I said, Jesus said to his disciples on this rock, build mine, and we say church, right? The word is ecclesia. What is an ecclesia? An ecclesia was a Greek word for a political gathering, where they unified around two other Greek words, Ella Euthyria, and isonomia, freedom and equality. So Jesus used the word on this rock, build my public square engagement center. On this rock, build my, go forth in every sector. This idea of compartmentalized Christianity has got to stop. We should have comprehensive Christianity. Where we're saying, you know what? I don't like the music my kids listening to. I'm going to go support a Christian artist,

or I'm going to do it myself. I don't like the education of my kids. I'm going to step up and do it myself, where we're not going to just be spectators, but we're going to be participants in the culture of what's happening right now. And so this is a great moment. It really is. I know a lot of people are down. I know a lot of people are feeling depressed. But we are on the precipice of what can be not just a great awakening in this country, but a revival, the likes of which we've never seen before. But it's only going to happen. It's only going to happen if we're going to happen if we're we step into that public square. And so for those of you that are here and you just came for a political speech, you got some of that too. But I encourage you this. And maybe you haven't

been to church in a while. Maybe you don't go to a church. Maybe you don't believe in God. I could tell you that the most fulfilling thing that a human being can do is to come in a relationship with your creator. After that, everything starts to make more sense. And so the Bible's the greatest book ever written in history of the world. It is the Word of God. Read Proverbs. Read John if you have never opened up the Bible before. But be courageous.

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