The Charlie Kirk Show - How MAHA Was Born And Where It's Going Next

Episode Date: August 25, 2025

How did Alex Clark go from a pop culture podcast to raw milk, seed oils, and vaccines? How did MAHA go from non-existent to a core part of the Trump coalition? Almost one year to the day after RFK Jr.'s dramatic endorsement in the 2024 election, Alex Clark joined Charlie to discuss the emergence and growth of the MAHA movement and what lies ahead for it in the next three years of the Trump presidency. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!  Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here live from the Bitcoin.com studio. Alex Clark joins the show. We talk maha, we talk seed oils, we talk health advice, we talk Bobby Kennedy, and more. Email us as always, freedom at charliecirk.com and subscribe to our podcast. That is the Charlie Kirk Show podcast page and get involved at Turning Point USA. At tpUSA.com. That is tpUSA.com. Buckle up, everybody here. We go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks. I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job. Building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA. We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here. Alex, welcome. How are you? I'm so good. And I have a tirade to unleash. Oh, boy. I am so excited to talk about Maha today and just some crazy wins and also some really wild stuff that's down the pipeline that we should be concerned about. But I have a lot to say. So I literally wrote out last night. I stayed up writing all my notes because I was like, I have to be like on point. Make sure I remember everything I want to say. So I have to interrupt you first. Okay. Alex Clark is one of our most.

amazing team members. She has been with Turning Point USA for seven years, six years. Alex was a morning radio host in Indiana. Tyler Boyer found you on Twitter, I believe, right? Or social media. It's a little bit of a mixed story. So I came to YWLS in 2018 as an attendee. Our young women's leadership summit. So when I say that our young women's leadership summit develops leaders, this is what we're talking about, right? Yeah. So I just came. I didn't know anybody. I literally went by myself and then Turning Point had followed me on Instagram after that

and so Tyler's marketing team DM'd me and we're like hey we'd love to work with you just as an ambassador and I said actually I'd like to work for you and I have a show idea so then that kind of got the ball rolling and Tyler was like okay because Turning Point had never done a show. We had never done

a show. So I kind of pitched that idea and that was the very first show that Turning Point had ever done I had created this pop culture show called Poplitics and that was the first thing. And so, yeah, at the time, Tyler was overseeing it. It was pop culture met politics at the time, right? Yep. And a pop culture without the propaganda. That's right. That was what it was. Yeah. It was like e-news and Fox News if they had a baby. And like this was, it had never been done. It was like really crucial. And this show got all of these young women through the pandemic.

I mean, I was using celebrity entertainment stories to call out BLM and all these things. And it was like a very digestible way for a young girl scrolling on social media to hear conservative ideas. And so Alex made that super popular. And then Alex, you started to talk more and more about health and wellness. This is before the term maha ever existed. You were maha before maha. And so walk us through that whole journey towards now, just to kind of complete the story, Alex is without a doubt one of the most influential voices for young women in America

and without a doubt in the whole wellness health space. So how did you go from pop culture without the propaganda to raw milk? So one, I want to say that turning point you to say in Charlie were one of the first really big supporters of Maha even because during the pandemic, I wasn't required to get the vaccine. And I had never. I hope not because I worked there too. Oh, that's what I'm saying, right? So like Charlie immediately was like, we're not requiring our employees to have to get this, of course. And so I had never thought of anything in regards to Big Pharma before. I had actually never even heard that term. Like I grew up in the most conventional ultra processed food household ever, far from the. raw milk lands of California and Indiana. So I didn't know any organic food stuff. And so I'd never really cared about it. And then when the pandemic happened and they were mandating the vaccine, I was so gravely disturbed. I mean, I was unsettled in my spirit. I just immediately called it as demonic. It was demonic to tell people if you don't get this vaccine, you're not

going to be allowed to participate in public life and public space. You're not going to be allowed in different businesses. You might have to lose your job. And so I went down the rabbit hole and I started reading everything I could about Monsanto and corruption in the American Heart Association and all these different things. And I wanted to talk about it with my audience. So I had transitioned from that pop culture show to doing a long form podcast where I was interviewing people, just anyone and everyone that had an interesting story or had an expertise that was countercultural. That was my first podcast with Turning Point. And I started kind of sneakily pivoting to doing mostly health and wellness interviews on that show. And then February of 2020,

before last year, I talked to Turning Point and I said, listen, I think I want to rebrand the entire show. I think the whole future of conservatism and the Republican Party with women is health and wellness. And it was kind of like, dear in the headlights, like everybody was like, what are you talking about? I bought into it for the record. Charlie bought into it. So there was definitely some people that were like, I don't know, Alex. And Charlie, first of all, when I brought up, I want to do a pop culture show from a conservative perspective, Charlie said, let's do it. There was no hesitation. when I said, I want to do a health and wellness show and focus on this. Charlie said, absolutely.

Actually, Charlie interrupt me. I didn't even finish my sentence talking about culture apothecary. And he was like, I don't understand the question. Yes. So, like, it was amazing to have that support. And, you know, Charlie just said, look, everything that you have brought to turning point from populetics to now with culture apothecary, everything that you said we need to do to focus on young women has been right so far.

So we trust you. You have full creative freedom, which not a lot of other conservative media companies can say, will say that. Their talent doesn't get creative freedom like I have been given, which has been amazing. So I said February 24, let's focus on health at YWLS, our Young Women's Leadership Summit in June of 2024. I said on that stage, this is the future. If we want to win female voters, this is the stuff that we need to be talking about. It is so important to undecided female voters. Two months later, RFK comes out, Glendale, Arizona, endorses President Trump and talks about, we're going to make America healthy again. And I was front row. First,

of all, Charlie was so generous and had hooked it up so that I could get to meet President Trump backstage, which is, if you've ever met him, it's like two seconds, you know, you're like, I have to, what is the one thing I'm going to say to impress him or have something to say? And I said, Mr. President, please keep talking about food and pharma. This is the biggest issue with undecided female voters. That's what I said. And he said, you're going to be very excited. And I was like, oh, what does that mean?

And so then he walks out with RFK on stage. and I'm not kidding you, I'm front row, and my jaw drops. I mean, it was like my reaction to Taylor Swift at the Ares Tour. I'm jumping up and down. My fist is pumping. Brick Suit, if you follow him on X, Brick Suit has a video of me. Like, I'm just screaming the loudest I've ever screamed. And President Trump looks just at me, and he points, and he gives like a wink and a thumbs up.

Like, I told you you were going to be happy. So it was just so amazing. And so that happens, and I had planned without knowing that RFK was going to partner with Trump. I had no idea that was going to happen, right? I didn't know that Maha was going to be a thing. I just knew that I could see in my show downloads when I talked about these issues that my downloads were going crazy.

I was like, oh, this is resonating with women, these topics. And so I wanted to keep at it. And Maha goes off. I get invited to testify at the Senate with RFK in September. And the show, Culture Apothecary, I had just rebranded like two weeks prior. The show explodes so much so that Charlie said to my team. There's no way these numbers are right. I need you to run them again. And my team

said, Charlie, we ran them seven times. So the show just like goes crazy. It was the exact like cultural zeitgeist that we needed to like really appeal to people. Because all of the sudden it was like, whoa, conservatives are talking about health and wellness. Well, who's doing that that's openly conservative? And it was like me. So then a lot of people discovered me. And yeah, It's just been incredible. We have over 40 million downloads on the show and counting. Average episodes are getting like, well, I don't know. This is going to be broadcast.

I don't know if I'll go that. I'll say all that. I'll say all that. I'll keep that to the chest. But yeah, over 40 million downloads and counting. And just that's a big number, everybody. It's big. Just this last month between my Instagram and the show's Instagram, we have over 40 million views on our content.

So just, yeah, really wild. stuff. And it's, it's just been really exciting. Well, and you've been an amazing warrior, Alex. Charlie Kirk here, crime is skyrocketing. You may already own a firearm, but before you face the financial and emotional weight of pulling the trigger, consider Burna. Burna's less lethal launchers fire tear gas and kinetic rounds designed to incapacitate attackers for up to 40 minutes, giving you time to escape and call for help without deadly consequences. I use Burnup. My family all has them and now meet the new compact launcher, an amazing product. Sleak, slim, and hits like a sledgehammer. But the size of a smartphone, it's perfect for a concealed carry. Comfortable, discreet, and confidence

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She finds things that the media is ignoring. And then she goes all in on them. And they seem as if they're like niche issues. I believe that Maha, make America healthy again, was one of the reasons why Donald Trump won the popular. vote and one of the reasons why he ran the table in all seven swing states. Okay, it absolutely is. It absolutely is. And so I have so much to say about this. When we were at the Young Women's Leadership Summit this past June, I had, this has actually never happened. I mean, I've been with Turning Point for six years. I've never had women come up to me at that conference for Turning Point USA, very openly conservative, and say, I would have never come to a conservative event.

this is my very first time, but I'm here for Maha. Like, they came, and then they were like, I'm, I don't, I'm scared to, like, totally say it yet, but I think I'm becoming conservative. And I was like, that's amazing. Like, you're so welcome here. And so the theme that I had chosen for YWLS this year was welcome home. I said I wanted it to be hospitality because we had gained millions of new female voters to the GOP, to the conservative movement.

And so what is so crucial to understand is that we are not in a committed relationship with these women yet, Okay. We're in the talking stage. They are assessing the situation. Gen Z knows what I mean. We're in the talking stage. We're not official. And they're trying to decide if they want to be official with us. And so if the GOP is serious about winning midterms and just elections here on out, we cannot forget these Maha moms and these women that really deeply care about this. Deeply. And I want you to keep going on this, Alex. I was just affirming what you were saying, that I totally and completely agree. So let's build this out a little further. And I want to get into all your big wins. For someone that's in the audience listening, they're like, what do you mean, Maha? Like, I mean, I'm Maha.

I put olive oil on my salad. Like, you know, I'm Maha. Like, I drink Diet Coke. What is this thing? Because there's a spectrum, right? It goes all the way from cold plunges to 72-hour fasting to supplementation to, you know, keto, or even just wanting to be healthy. The way I view it, then I want your view.

maha is we relied to during COVID we're super sick and we want to be healthy and we're willing to entertain things that we were told false prior that's what I think maha is what would you say it is yeah you're you're right and I can speak to this from a millennial perspective charlie and are basically the same we're the exact same age we graduated high school the same year or a couple months apart so from millennials especially just to give you a good idea we grew up the vaccine schedule starts to explode it's even worse now some states you have to have over 90 vaccines to be able to attend public school between zero and 18 years old. That's insane. But the vaccine schedule starts to explode. GMOs are introduced to our food system. The food

pyramid that we were given in public school curriculums was completely bought and paid for by industry. So it wasn't actually based on any real health guidelines. It was just who paid to have a bigger slice of the pyramid. So we're going to promote that to kids. And then we also were told, you know, fat is bad for you. Red meat is bad. Butter is bad. We need to introduce seed oils. Ultra processed food is good. It's more convenient. we were all put on birth control. The girls in my generation were all told as a catch-all band-aid

that we should all be put on hormonal birth control for absolutely no reason. Oh, you get cramps, you should be on birth control. You have a pimple. You should be on birth control. You just don't know how to track your cycle. Well, you're too stupid to learn that. We'll just go ahead and put you on birth control.

And we were not given informed consent about how that can totally wreck our bodies. You have a 230% plus increase of developing an autoimmune disease. which I now have, if you're on it for nine plus years, you have a quadruple risk of increased anxiety, depression, being on the pill, which, of course, now you have so many women on antidepressants in America, which is so sad.

And then the biggest problem is that it hides your symptoms that there's something going on hormonally, right? So this is a big thing. we're seeing infertility rising 1% every year. When you are on the pill for like a decade, you could have signs of endometriosis, polycystic ovarian syndrome, different things that if women knew that they had it, which the pill is hiding,

then they would be able to go to their doctor and say, I need to get this fixed. If not that birth control is directly causing infertility, but it's indirectly causing infertility because we're not able to see the signs to get things fixed, and then we get off the pill and we want to have a family and then we realize we can't, or it's taking longer than we thought.

And that's a whole other tie where we can get on is women waiting purposely, on purpose. There's a difference between wanting to get married and not and purposely putting off marriage. And then they have all these issues and then they run into a lot of problems. Yeah. And again, the overarching thing and this is, Maha is both male and female.

The Maha component of it on the male is great. The female, though, I would think it's a dominantly female mom-driven thing mostly. Is that probably right? Yeah, I think the moms are really running it. But chronic disease is touching everyone in this country. You've got, you know, almost half of teenagers in the United States are obese at this point. Type 2 diabetes has exploded.

Used to be called adult onset diabetes, right? Remember that? It's now type 2 because so many kids are getting it. That is a lifestyle disease. It is only caused by diet and lifestyle. So you have that. You have kids developing non-alcoholic fatty liver disease. They're approving OZembek, which is a weight loss medication for kids as young as six,

which is a lifetime medication that you're trying to get. I know they're up there trying to get it on the Medicaid schedule. It is so corrupt. Paid for by taxpayers. And then you have a revolving door here with the industry of the same industry is telling you you should take a certain medical product or eat a certain food, are able to capture the science and buy the studies and pick the scientists saying that we should be eating that or taking that. It's so evil. I can't even express to you. So when we say maha, we're getting into all of these things.

Yeah, but it's an overarching thing. We want America to be healthy, skinnier. and happier. It's like kind of that's the... Or, or the Guardian, what they like to say about me in a hit piece is that I want to make all women thin, fertile, and Republican. Yes. I guess that's bad. No, you need to have a shirt, thin, fertile Republican.

I know. I want to do a whole campaign. I want to do a whole marketing campaign for the show that says that. I thought it was hilarious. I love that. So, but let's, let's, now let's transition to how monumental this was. And this, if, of all the stuff that has happened in the 2024 election, we had a lot of coalitions built. Now, when you win a popular vote majority and you build coalitions, you just have to accept that some of those coalitions are going to probably fall apart once you win, right? You got people arguing about Iran.

You've got people arguing about government transparency. And that's normal. But to President Trump's enormous credit, he did two things. He won the presidency, obviously, and he put Bobby Kennedy in charge of HHS. And I remember I was talking to him about this at Mar-a-Lago. And he said, Charlie, I'm getting a lot of phone calls from all. these drug companies. He resisted so much pressure from Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna, Johnson, and Johnson. And he said, I'm inclined just to give Bobby the whole thing. Because, you know,

they wanted us to have Bobby have some committee. They literally, the idea that was put forward by the lobbyist, just put Bobby in charge of some sort of panel that gets headlines every six months. And if that. And Bobby asked for the entire thing. The President of the United States gave him that. And so, believe it or not, he is the most popular cabinet member by far. Oh, yeah. It's not even close. Yeah. He has like 58% approval rating. And that's Democrats, as Independence, that's Republicans. It's hard to believe it was even possible. But the Democrat-run states are now more pro-abortion than ever and will only get worse, unless you join me standing for life. This is Charlie Kirk, and we're saving babies right now with pre-born. Ultrasounds,

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riff and credit to President Trump for keeping his promise and keeping his coalition together. And that completes my point. Then I want you to go through your riff on the winds, which is that Maha is the most cohesive movement from the 2024 election. And it's not even close. Maha has grown since the election. Maha has strengthened. And Democrat Party, they have no interest in trying to embrace being healthy. They're the party of processed foods to the party of obesity and pharmaceuticals. Now go through the wins. How are we winning? What is RFK Jr. doing in power to advance the Maha agenda? So the cumulative work that we've accomplished with when it comes to health in America in this administration exceeds any other administration in presidential history period in the United

States. We removed artificial food dyes in the first 60 days, which we know has caused behavioral issues in children, and it shows that children have, it can also, you know, reek carcinogenic effects that we've seen. We also accomplished SNAP reform. We're looking into what's allowed in formula, infant formula with Operation Stork Speed right now. Vaccine reform. There's a cup, there's some division that you might see on social media when it comes to the maha movement. You've got this camp that's obsessed with food. You've got this camp that's obsessed with we have to only focus on vaccines. We are accomplishing things with vaccines, okay?

We have canceled MRNA vaccine contracts. We've ended the requirement that the COVID-vax has to be given to pregnant women and children. We're restoring academic freedom at the NIH. And we are now acknowledging and tracking vaccine injury, which our government has basically never done, by the way. They've basically never done that. So you have all these families that are like, child was vaccine injured and then you have the pro vaccine people like well there's no data to show

that these are causing anything because the government hasn't been tracking it on purpose to protect the industry so we're going to fix that um we're fixing the grass loophole so grass g r as yes that means it stands for generally recognized as safe and what that means is there was a loophole where companies have been allowed to self-certify that certain food additives are generally recognized as safe without formal FDA approval or even notifying the FDA in some cases. So the food companies were just deciding, oh, I think this ingredient is good to go. We don't really need to show anybody else. That's a problem.

We have now a full review of food additives that are banned in other countries, so we're checking what's going in all of our food. This is exciting this week. Now, you may have seen this and like, that's nice, and you didn't really think anything about it. This is actually one of our biggest wins, and let me explain why. So you may have seen that we just brought back the presidential fit test for elementary students. this is so exciting you guys it's actually arguably one of the most important things believe it or not because it's not that we don't have a it's not that we need a policy issue with health

we really have a cultural issue more than anything we have a cultural issue and so kids need to be exercising they need to understand what's in their food and how to read ingredients and nutrition labels this is going to help give more accountability for the food that we serve kids and where it comes from. Number one, this is going to be a total awakening that is going to lead Americans and totally demand change. Health has to be embedded into American culture. So when you are starting teaching this stuff with kids in elementary school, that's really where it starts, right? So we're getting rid of all the DEI BS and we're adding in the presidential fitness test, which is super exciting to start that conversation with students on their health,

real health, not industry bought and paid for help. HHS, currently working with federal agencies, to create an official standardized definition of ultra-processed food. This is important. We don't have that because this is going to give a clear guidance on what counts as ultra-processed food. There will be a revamped nutritional guideline, not bought and paid for by industry that we can go off. Now, here's what you need to be concerned by. And every single person listening and every single person in this room needs to be fired the hell up about this issue. We are dipping our toes in a dangerous area when it comes to the Maha movement and potentially rocking the boat of all of these millions of voters that I just told you we just gained because we are now flirting with the idea of a chemical liability shield.

Foreign chemical companies are launching a coordinated campaign right now to secure sweeping legal immunity for chemical products in the United States. this legislation is going to prevent Americans from holding companies accountable, the chemical companies accountable, for health damages, by the way, of over 57,000 chemicals. This is exactly, if you remember, what we did when it comes to vaccines. We gave the vaccine companies immunity, right, so parents couldn't sue them. We are now about to do this with chemical companies in the United States. If we do not all start calling our congressmen and congresswomen and saying, enough is enough, we do not support this.

you better not support this. So. What would the argument for that even be? Is it indemnification for foreign chemical companies? Yes. So this is, this should concern you. This is really a, like, super scary foreign policy issue. So Bayer.

Which is a German company. Which is a German company. They are on the hook right now currently. This is why they're pushing this so hard. They are currently on the hook for $16 billion in settlements for glyphosate cancer litigation. Is that roundup? Yes. Which is being sprayed on all of our food.

I know three people that. died because of brain cancer from Roundup, at least three. I'm sure almost everyone in this room does. They are losing court cases because of the overwhelming evidence that glyphosate is connected to non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. So they know this. So they're like, we don't want people to be able to sue us anymore because we know we're making people sick. We want to be able to keep making people sick. You have paraquot. Pariquot is another chemical. We don't talk about a lot. We hear a lot about glyphosate in the maha circles, but you need to know about paraquat. Paraguat is another chemical manufactured by ChemChina. So this is tightly connected to

to Parkinson's disease. And it is a pesticide that is actually banned in China, but we're allowing it to be sprayed on our crops for Americans to eat. And they sell it to us, and now they want illegal immunity when we get Parkinson's from their product. You should be very concerned if you live near or on a golf course. I'm just going to tell you that right now. They are doing this through federal legislation, state bills, EPA rule changes, and Supreme Court intervention, and they're aiming to shield themselves from responsibility when they cause harm to Americans that are consuming products and farmers also in their communities. So what's really scary is that this legislation is already passed now in North Dakota this year and Georgia. So

if you live in Georgia or North Dakota, those states, it is now basically impossible to sue chemical manufacturers if you get sick from chemical exposure. Next, Congress has added an immunity shield into their House Appropriations Bill. It's called Section 453. Now, this is why you should be especially pissed off. We just won, Charlie just admitted, we largely just won the election due to Maha and all of the activism that we're doing there. And it is Republicans who are pushing for this.

It is not the Democrats. So it is Republicans in Congress that are totally turning their back on us as Maha voters, on the Maha moms, and we need to say that we do not stand for this. that we have midterms coming up. This is a very, very, very scary thing that we are flirting with right before midterms. You are rocking a boat. You don't want to rock.

So their argument must be, if I were to steal manate, that if we don't indemnify it, then we won't be able to spray anything because it'll be sued by everybody. Is that right? I mean, again, so it's like, wait, so we're going to poison a lot of people and not,

it's like a car company being like, well, you can't sue us if the airbag doesn't work. And you, I mean, what kind of crazy thing? I mean, is that, is that what we're talking? We're talking about indemnification, basically. They literally are, like I said, they are on the line right now for billions and billions and billions in lawsuits and they're just trying to get ahead of it so that we, they don't have to pay it out. Why would Republicans, other than being bought and paid for? That's it.

It's just lobbyists. Is this a big ag thing, though? Is there like a connect? Okay. So that's where we're getting. TikTok has helped U.S. businesses contribute over $24 billion for the U.S. economy. That's real money flowing into small businesses. Like Arizona Taco King, who went viral on TikTok and hit $1.3 million in sales in their first year.

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So a big ag, they love glyphosate. By the way, I talk to some people, I get so many angry emails from people that are like glyphosate's the greatest thing ever. It's amazing. Like, you don't understand what you're talking about. What is the pro-glyphosate argument? What would they, I mean? That we need to feed the world. We have to be able to feed the world.

Right. And we kill all the bugs this way. Yes. Got it. Which is just not true. There are other ways to do this. Now, I'm not saying, because I know that a lot of our friends. in the ag community who are doing conventional farming get very upset when we talk about this

because you're like you have no idea what you're talking about you could never do this overnight totally correct totally correct you could not do this overnight it is a it is a whole process slow rollout that we would have to do but the point is not that we're going to ban these chemicals or anything nobody's even talking about that all we're saying is that american uh consumers farmers i totally community should be able to sue them if they make you sick well just And this interferes with state's ability to protect their residents by overriding stronger state-level consumer protection and tort laws. 100% just on indirect.

So just everyone understands, forget the MAHA component of this. This is crony capitalism at its finest. This is a big company that doesn't want to be able to be held accountable. I mean, every time we indemnify an industry, really bad behavior usually follows, almost always. You have to be upset about this, not just because, oh, they're poisoning us and we won't able to sue them. what I'm trying to get at is, yes, obviously that's extremely important. But also when we are thinking in terms of politics and midterms is that this is in the news right now.

And all of those women that I just told you came up to me at our turning point events and said, I would not be here if it weren't for Maha. I'm trying to figure out if I want to identify as conservative are seeing this in the news that we are flirting with the idea of a chemical shield for these companies. And they're going, so is everything just a lie? Is everything Donald Trump told me a lie? Is everything that congressional Republicans told me they were going to do for Maha? a lie, I don't know that I want to keep voting for this. And so now, and so I am trying to get us

out there to say, you know, for those that are, you know, those of us that are grandfathered into the GOP, right? Like, we are a part of this party. We need to be saying that this isn't okay and letting our congressional Republicans know. So you have to call your congressman or congresswoman off the hook right now and tell them to vote no on the appropriations bill as long as section 4.53 is in it. So we're telling them to take out section 453 in the appropriations bill. You're doing this nonstop every single day. You're calling them daily. They're going to know who you are. They're going to know your favorite order at your favorite restaurant. That's how much you call. Okay. And then if you don't want to do that, you can just go to stoppoison.org. You'll get legislation updates

and instructions on how to call both federal and local state legislators. But even if it was, think about this, everybody. So even if it wasn't poison, which it obviously is, but we're not banning it. We're just saying that you're not shielded from lawsuits. Exactly. So everyone should be on board with this and everyone needs to be making a big, big, big fuss on social media about this so that President Trump sees it and sees that this is important to us. So I love that. And so in closing here, Alex, I want to do, I want to go to two things. Just can you repeat the website one more time because it's going to be airing out to millions of people. Stoppoison.org. Stoppoison.org. And by the way, Alex, you need more energy. I got to tell you. You don't have enough spunk and spark here. You know, you're just kind of like, you know,

meandering through life. I told you. I have a lot to say. So yeah. I love it. There's a lot of moving pieces happening. Maha is in this for the long haul. Okay. So this is, Maha will transcend MAGA. This doesn't end in 2028. It keeps going no matter who is in the White House, Democrat, Republican. This is such an important coalition. And if conservatives keep championing it, it can be ours that we own, which we should be doing. We should be fiercely protecting this, that these are our voters. And, you know, there's also a new Maha report coming out. I know that the mainstream media in New York Times people are reporting on it. It's a draft. So it's a still in the works. They are not seeing the final thing, but the few things in it that I think should make you excited that I'm hearing about behind the scenes are, one, there is a specific section calling out the importance of healthy soil. So if the government is specifically calling out the importance of healthy soil, then the government is not going to be super on board with hopefully protecting chemical companies and all of that. And then also this draft I'm seeing in the new Maha report alludes to getting those pharmaceutical ads off of TV, which is one of the

most important things that we need to do. Only New Zealand and America allows this. I totally agree. And by the way, I don't want to watch a football game and then have someone talk about some stupid ad. Like, oh, it might cause death and your sister might also die. And your golden retriever has diarrhea. Exactly. And you get liver disease. I'm like, this drug sounds terrible. And they're not buying it to convince you to buy the drug. They're buying it to purchase goodwill with the media companies. Remember that. They get a full tax deduction when they buy these ads. And you know it. By the way, do you notice that they almost never have celebrity endorsers for ads unless it's like Travis Kelsey? It's very rare. But they don't spend a lot of

money on the ads. You think about that? Because they don't care. They're not, they're not measuring it. So if Wendy's runs an ad or Arby's, they're measuring, how did that ad do? Are people more likely to go buy our product? If Buffalo Wild Wings runs an ad, they're like, hey, does that good? Should it be during half time or first quarter? These pharmaceutical companies are like, just place it wherever. It's not about getting you to buy the product. It's about making sure the next time they want to go do a five-minute segment on CNN that they're less likely to say something negative because they're covering the profit margin at the major networks. I totally agree at that. So Alex, I want you to give three, all right? Three Maha health hacks that are easy that everyone should adopt into their life.

Okay, one, open your windows every single day for at least 20 minutes now. For us, I was going to say that's a terrible idea. Dangerous. No, it's really good. It's 119 out today. So I know. In Arizona, this is horrible. But look, 10, 20 minutes, it's really, really important because actually all of the chemicals and our products and things that we're using inside our homes is way more pollutant than what's outside. So you want to air that stuff out, okay? Two, never, ever wear shoes in the house. You're taking those off at the front door. What's on the bottom of your shoe is more dangerous than what's on a toilet seat in a public bathroom. Okay. And then three, three, is trying to wake up within 30 minutes of the sunrise and going outside, going on your porch, looking at the sunrise, taking a walk, that infrared light is going to help set your circadian rhythm. You have the best sleep of your life and just overall better health. People like lose weight doing this.

It's really wild. You could listen to my show if you want to learn more. So get time in the sun also, right? Are you a big sunscreen person, not really? I'm not really a sunscreen person. So the sunscreen thing is a little tricky. So here's my caveat. Number one, you don't need, you probably won't burn as much if you completely eliminate ultra-processed food and seed oils from your diet.

Just saying that right now. That's interesting. Yeah. Two, if you are getting that infrared light in the morning and even like a sunset walk at night, your body can handle like intense sun better when you're tanning more in the middle of the day. And then, you know, picking times like obviously you might want to wear sunscreen if you're in peak time, you know, noon to 2pm, the hottest part of the day, strongest sun of the day. You might want to wear sunscreen or linen clothing, et cetera. But if you are going to wear sunscreen, otherwise I would avoid it. If you are going to wear sunscreen, it needs to be mineral-based sunscreen, not chemical.

Never ever chemical sunscreen. There's so many cancer-causing ingredients. We just had, like, last summer, so many sunscreens were called because they said, well, these are causing cancer. Last thing. What was one thing you did routinely five years ago, six years ago, seven years that you stopped doing once you learned it was bad? I have not eaten Chick-fil-A in probably like three years. Great answer. I can't stand Chick-fil-A.

no fast food ever oh i totally agree under any circumstances under any circumstance i'll go to a grocery store and i'll get food there i totally agree whole foods what is one supplement that you wish the whole country would take would make them happier magnesium what kind this is like 50 different types Alex is it glycenae like what is your yeah actually yes okay i think that would be a good one but magnesium it's really important to poop and it's also super important um it really helps with your period cramps, ladies, if you take magnesium the week before your period, you'll probably basically have no cramps,

and it will help you sleep so much better. It's just we need magnesium, we need more of it, we don't get enough. And I throw in vitamin D3K2. D3K2. My maha hips are very, hips are very simple. Sleep is the most underrated superpower, and we totally, to our own detriment,

that's number one. Number two, we do not walk enough, just walking. Next time go to walk, walk when you make phone calls, walk, walk, walk, and we eat a lot of garbage for no good reason. We way over-eat in the West. Myself and, like, we ate way too much food. Like, way too much food. So try to stop eating when you're like 75%.

You won't. You won't keep overeating if you eat real food and eliminate ultra-process food. I don't know. I love steak. I keep, I could eat that stuff forever. I don't know. You won't feel so much more stationed. From good ranchers.com promo code Kirk, they bring you that steak.

Alex, I want to just commend you again. You're a rock star. You have energy. You have spirit. You're making the world a better place. And we're honored to be on this journey with you. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thanks so much for listening. Everybody. Email us as always freedom at charleycirk.com. Thanks so much for listening and God bless. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliecirk.com.