The Charlie Kirk Show - ICE Is BACK ft. Secretary Kristi Noem

Episode Date: July 18, 2025

For four years, ICE was shackled and foreign criminals ruled the roost in America. Now, raids and deportations are back on the agenda and ICE has been unleashed to arrest criminals, crush sanctuary cities, and restore law and order nationwide. DHS Secretary Kristi Noem joined Charlie at Amfest to discuss immigration, getting to wear shoes on airplanes again, and a lot more. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yeah, well, yes, or Christy. Or Christy. You're doing amazing. I mean, of all the different agencies that are delivering, we are at record deportation rates. What is happening on the border? The border is secure. For the last two months, we've had zero illegal aliens come into this country at all. Zero, even try. So it's been fantastic. And what was it a year ago?

Oh, I don't even know. Tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands a month. We literally had 21 million people come into this country illegally over the last four years. That's an interesting question. You're in the Department of Homeland Security. You're tasked with interior enforcement and obviously border. Do we even know how many illegals are in our country? That is our estimate.

Is that those that we know about, those that we don't know about, known gotaways, and then the estimates based on what the traffic was, was that during the Biden administration, we had millions and millions come in, but we think we today could have upwards up to 21 million. 21 million. And so again, these are just approximations. Yes. And but 10 came across under Joe Biden-ish. Is that right? Correct.

And so how many were gotaways versus the kind of fraudulent asylum scam that was being run? I wish I knew that exactly. We know there are millions of gotaways that we don't have a record or a database on. I would say that every day that we're out doing our operations, which are specifically targeted towards the worst of the worst, there's those that are with them that we had no idea that they existed, that they were individuals that are affiliated

with them, people that are in the country, that when we go back in and run their IDs through CBP or through other entities, Interpol or other countries that have them on their extradition lists, they're individuals that weren't on our radar. So I think what's the most remarkable about this president is that since he's been in office for the last six months, uh, we've removed over 600 known and suspected terrorists out of this country. Um, which is incredible. These are, these are folks that are known terrorists.

And then if you go on and beyond the six that he has designated as foreign terrorist organizations as far as gangs and cartel members, tens of thousands of those individuals we swept up off our streets. We were talking today that just here in Tampa, some of the worst of the worst we've removed in the last several weeks have been child pedophiles. Some that were producing child pornography and distributing it, a child rapist, a murderer, one that was guilty of sexual assault on a 12-year-old. These are individuals that just here in this area that our HSI and ICE officers have been

able to remove from the streets. And so the fact that those individuals have been out on our streets for years perpetuating crimes is really unbelievable. So how many terrorists on the watch list you said? Six hundred known and suspected terrorists that we have been able to sweep up and remove from this country. That's incredible, simultaneously chilling, how many other terrorists are out there? Well, and that's the issue is that how many are there that we don't know about. And we've been, I've gone to

I think ten different countries now and visited with their presidents and their leaderships and talked to them about sharing security information, extradition agreements that we can negotiate with them on their worst of the worst. Who can we return to them and what information can they give us? How can we share the data, the biometric information that they may have, and how we can get them to cooperate with us in taking back their citizens or being a third country that we can utilize to help put people in that we want out of this country as soon as possible.

What is IceBlock? And what can we do? I think that's what it's called, right? You mean as far as the ice watch, the app that they're using? And so why can't we just shut it down? People are very fired up about this. Well, I can't really speak to all the specifics of what we're doing within the Department of Homeland Security

against that app. But I will tell you, we're going at it from every method we possibly can. Litigation. We're also looking at prosecution with the Department of Justice on what they have the opportunity to do. We need to better as a government partner with our private industry technology experts,

private industry. We have not done a good job working with them in the technology field to see what we can do to get in front of these kinds of advancements and how they use our technology against us and the operations that we have. So that's one of the things that Elon and his team brought to the table so much that was so innovative was they were constantly giving us new technology that we could use to go out and to target the worst of the worst and get in front of them and then even activities such as that where they're exposing our ICE operations and our officers to danger. One of the brilliant strategies that you are using is that it's not just about deportation but also self deportation. I love the ads. Don't you love the ads? Do you see

them on TV? And so what is the how does that couple with self deportation? If correct me if I'm wrong, you'll actually give people 1000 bucks if they return back home. Yeah, we think that right now we have over a million illegal aliens that have left the workforce here in the United States and have gone home already by self-deportation. They said that from all of our intelligence analysts, from what we've done in other countries on why people are returning to their countries is because of the CICOT videos and the videos of alligator Alcatraz. Oh yeah. That when you show the consequences.

Do we like alligator Alcatraz. When you show the consequences... Do we like alligator Alcatraz everybody? Yeah. When you show the fact that there's consequences for staying here illegally and that you will have to leave and you won't ever get the chance to come back that people are self-deporting. So yeah, if they want to go home, and I just had a press conference a little over, I don't know, an hour or two ago that talked about the fact that if you self-deport, we will buy you a plane ticket. When you land there, we will give you $1,000 that you can use to help get your life started, to buy food or rent a place. But also, as part of these trips to these countries, what I've done is negotiate in some of these countries and visit with these leadership teams and presidents about the fact that you can establish programs for your own people in your own country. So Guatemala, Honduras, you know, Panama, some

of these countries have started their own programs where they're loaning their civilians money so they can buy houses, giving them dollars so that they have education. They have a training program that they can, when they come home, fill the jobs that they have there. So now these individuals that are in our country illegally know, I can get a ticket home and when I get there, my country will train me for a job. I'll be able to get a loan for a house. My kids will get a scholarship for an education.

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C-H-A-R-L-I-E for hillsdale.com. Yeah, and so the beautiful bill just passed. What does that mean for your department specifically? More personnel, more funding. Because I was shocked to learn this. Every government agency has basically grown in perpetuity, but ICE has not grown since its beginning. Is that correct?

That's correct. In fact, I have one of the top three largest departments in the federal government, but one of the smallest budgets. I think I'm in the bottom two or three. I wonder why I don't know it was such a you know, you would think homeland security would be our number one priority beyond our national defense, correct? Because the partnership is so incredible. But yes, so we will have 10,000 new ICE officers funded through that bill, 5,000 new CBP officers. Also just what we need for training and equipment. When President Trump during his first administration built the wall, he built the infrastructure of it, but the technology didn't get installed. So the technology as far as surveillance equipment, what we need for drones, what we need for counter drone activity, taking out weapon systems. Our Coast Guard is getting a whole new force designed there, the tip of the spear of our

national security strategy. Is that under DHS? It's under DHS. So I have the Coast Guard Secret Service. We have weapons of mass destruction under DHS. We also have CISA, which is the cybersecurity agency. Huge. Huge of the nation.

But our job is to not only have jurisdiction over every person that's in this country and who comes and goes, but also every product that comes into our country or leaves, all the ports of entry, all of the tariffs are collected by CBP and remitted to the federal government. You guys are doing a great job with that. Yeah, they have done a fantastic job in collecting and assessing that the appropriate duties are there when it needs to be adjusted because the president has made a new decision on a tear.

But also the companies will lie sometimes what's in their containers. Oh, absolutely. Can you talk the, educate the audience again. So shipping is a trust system. Yes. Like it's very like handshake brotherly. Yeah. But we've learned that there is some lying that goes on.

Very much so. Customs and Border Protection is charged with not only just what comes in our ports of entry, but also what is coming in by air or freight, small packages. So they are some of the dollars out of this bill will be used for technology for scanning purposes. That's so important everybody. Almost all the drugs in this country come through legal ports of entry. And I think it's less than half of 1% of all shipping containers get scanned, right? Get scanned and searched. Because it's not possible to do it at scale unless you have technological equipment.

That's exactly right. And... I was shocked by the shipping containers that don't get scanned ever. When I learned that, I said, what do you mean? So basically, it's just a numbers game. So they know if they send 100 shipments, cargo shipments of cocaine, they'll probably get almost all 100 in. Maybe one will get caught,

but that means 99 of them will go to the interior of the United States. Yeah, that's exactly right. And so we will have the technology then to scan packages and shipping containers and air freight. And we will have the ability. CBP is the oldest law enforcement agency in the nation. Is that right? What was it called?

I don't know. It was combined with four different law enforcement agencies. They were all separated before and combined into Customs and Border Protection. But they also, the reason it's so important that they collect those tariffs is because they're the first one to see that shipping container. They do the inspection on it, that it is what what it is and that the duties are properly assessed and so they collect information and keep that case and that information so that if there is a violation or that those tariffs can be assessed importantly and then they do the law enforcement side of it if there is a violation on what actually was in there.

So you think about it if your company trying to scam the United States you're shipping in heavy machinery and you say it's lettuce. Yeah. And you know, that's a lot less of a tariff. So you don't have to pay as much. You have to have some integrity there. So I want to now talk about our cities. Okay.

Because that seems to be really where the rubber is hitting at the road. LA, Chicago, New York to a certain extent, Denver, and walk us through what we learned what happened recently in California, which is Chile this last week. It should have been the number one news story in the country. And what did you, what did we learn about that and then also the fight to reclaim LA? Well, are you, are you talking about the marijuana grow facility? Well, with the young kids that are working there, they're shooting at ICE agents?

Yeah, it is, you know, we have had a lot of big operations that we have focused on a huge background of investigative work that has gone into criminal activity and a lot of these enforcement actions that we're taking through ICE and HSI. This marijuana grow facility has been on our radar because there's been several tips and very various individuals who have notified us that there was criminal activity ongoing in this operation. It was something that we should be looking at and investigating. When we put the op down, we did scoop up, I think originally, about 150 illegal aliens

that were there, but those with criminal activity as well and backgrounds. And then also now it's gotten to be over 300. I think we have 320 since then. And then we have identified now 14 unaccompanied children that were there, that were working, that were being exploited. Either we believe by slavery or child sexual exploitation as well we believe could have been happening there as well.

And so that kind of investigative work to build those cases and to go into an operation like that is incredibly important beyond the fact then we have a bunch of violent crazy people that were working there attacking our law enforcement officers and trying to kill them. Discharging a weapon. Yes absolutely discharging weapons throwing rocks through the windshields of their vehicles which we all know how deadly that can be and violently attacking them so we will track them down and we will prosecute them with the Department of Justice and bring them to justice. So the, can you, I want to talk about the cities, but you brought up something that

our audience asks a lot about. Can you bring us up to speed on the courts and the deportation process you have to work through right now? Because our audience is a little bit unsure. Because it's a decision, it's an appeal, it's Supreme Court, it's an injunction. Well, there's always a federal judge that has an opinion that will throw out a decision that is trying to stop the Trump agenda to make our streets safer again. We had a decision just come out of, that affected

California that talked about the fact that we couldn't go in without reasonable suspicion and sweep up an individual that we thought was an illegal alien. So we had to have a suspected reason or case as to the fact that we were going in after them and trying to bring them into our detention or into our possession. I will tell you that we were doing that anyways. We are always building reasonable suspicion. Every single case that we're pursuing, we are doing that and going after an individual that we know is breaking our laws in this country and bringing them into justice and making sure that we're following the rule of law.

What drives me a little bit crazy is that we have the news and we have these liberals, we have these socialist Marxist communists that are out there trying to stop President Trump from keeping us safe and they're making up stuff every single day. To stay in front of their lies is incredibly difficult. So we'll appeal this judge's decision and we'll win because the facts on the ground in California have always been that we've been operating under reasonable suspicion and every single individual is getting due process and we're following at the everything by the

letter of the law every single individual that's coming into are uh... you know into our possession that we are working with to get them out of our country and using our opportunities to prosecute these individuals to so but is there an expedited removal like do we have to give a couple years of due process to a foreigner that's here? When we have final removal orders they can be removed. We have to there's a hearing process that you go through or a paperwork issue. It depends on what the decision is but on final removal orders your due process looks very different. There's nothing about due process that guarantees you that you're going to get a hearing. Yes. process looks very different. There's nothing about due process that guarantees you that you're going to get a hearing. There's nothing about that that guarantees you will get a

hearing. You will just get your due process and be removed from this country. How many would you approximate people have final removal orders? We know that 70% of the people that we've arrested so far have criminal charges against them, they've been convicted of or are pending. So the other 30 percent and those in the balance of it are those that have final removal orders that overstayed and didn't show up for their hearings or ignored their hearings and that the consequences of that is leaving our country. And so basically what happens is that then these final removal orders accrue over time. So then I guess the question is would the people who came through under Biden, are they

actually harder to remove because they don't have final removal orders? Some of them are, but we're adding integrity back to our programs that Biden abused so much. You know, for instance, he granted asylum to millions of people. He also... And you reversed that, I think. Yeah, absolutely. And he perverted many of our programs.

We had a program called Temporary Prot protective status, which he gave to certain countries. Haiti, so 500,000 Haitians just flopped into Ohio. And so President Trump has made the decision to take away temporary protected status for many of these countries so that now that they can begin to be removed from our country. If they want to apply for asylum, if they truly believe that they think that they are,

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Where now you guys have now really lengthened it, that if somebody actually is seeking asylum, they will then be granted it, but it's no longer just like, say, the magic words. Yeah, we will grant asylum according to how it was defined by the law and by Congress. And that is that you have to feel like as though your life is threatened from your government in your home country, going there would be a determining factor of whether you live or die. So that's key. So not gang violence.

Not gang violence. Not from another... Poverty? Correct. Correct. Not an economic factor. So it was... And I tell people all the time, you don't like the law, fine.

Go change it. Go talk to Congress. Go win a national election. I didn't get this job to decide what the law is. My job is to uphold the law, and President Trump has told me. He said, nobody gets treated better than anybody else. The rule applies equally to every single individual, and there's no way that people who are in this country breaking our laws should be treated better than our American citizens. I totally agree. And the self-deportation is so important to this. And so the challenge for the cities, now going back to the contention, how are you dealing

with, and I know you have private stuff you can't say, so feel free to navigate the question however you can. Well, and that's one thing, Charlie, I think people should know is because people do, the Department of Homeland Security, the position is a national security position. So a lot of what we have and what we do is difficult to talk about, but we'll be extremely transparent in everything that we can talk about,

just because it's important for the American people to understand that President Trump is doing what they asked him to do. Amen. How are you, in the capacity you can talk about it, navigating these mayors and the sanctuary cities where they are protecting foreign criminal nationals? These are neo-Confederates that are building their own states within the union.

When they violate the law, that is up to the Department of Justice to do prosecutions. Our job is to go out there and enforce federal law, and we can do that in these cities. Just many times when our officers are out there conducting operations, if they are in a sanctuary city or a sanctuary state, they often have to do it without backup. So no local police?

Which means many times the local police will not be there to have their backs in an operation. There are some cities- I imagine the police wanna be there, though. If you talk to the officers that are on the ground, they want to be there and be supportive of these efforts. They recognize that we're going after people who have perpetuated violence in their neighborhoods.

And they know that our ICE officers and HSI, and they're working in task forces. So we've got ATF and DEA guys out there helping us too. And in many states, you do have state law enforcement that are partnering with us. But you get into Illinois and you get into California or into New York City it's extremely frustrating because you you get into New York City you know they're big talkers that they're going to be big partners

with us but then we go run an op they're not going to be there to have our backs they're not going to be there to secure the perimeter or at least make sure that that one or two block radius is going to be okay. But in New York at least if you say there's an officer that needs help they will respond. They will come and back us up if an officer gets in danger but often that's too late. If you get to LA that's questionable at times. I was out on an op with our LA agents one morning and they were with us. I don't even know if I should talk about this. I guess I'm going to. They were they were with us. LAPD was with us on the op there providing backup and support and as soon as the governor

found out that I was there he pulled the officers off. He's a disgusting guy. Yeah, yeah as soon as he found out that I was there with them that morning, he pulled the officers off and then after that, he hasn't provided any agents or officers to go with us. So now, if you look at what's going on out there with CBP and ICE, the raid they did on that park, that was a... It was awesome. MacArthur Park was amazing. That was an amazing raid because that was a known park for where MS-13 gang members

hang out. Very well known for where we have a terrorist organization and the mayor showed up and kicked – tried to kick CBP out. And I love what Bovino did. Our CBP officer said, we will go anywhere we want to go because we own this city and we're protecting it for the people who live here, not you. This is not a thing for you, I know, because this is DOJ, we ought to start arresting these mayors. We cannot have these neo-Confederate little areas in the country.

We can't put up with it. You can't have a country, again, I'm very careful saying that, but if you have repeated instances, I mean, what you're saying is that if there's an officer who's in a life-threatening situation and you want local police, sorry pal you're on your own. As if we're like I don't know like from the consulate of Uruguay or something. That's how they treat you right? Well and we want the Department of Justice to win these cases and to be able to enforce the consequences. I think with Mayor Bass has just proposed as far as paying individuals who are illegal aliens to help them evade ICE, law enforcement officer,

I believe that would be prosecutable. So we've got to get you on stage here in about two and a half minutes. We got to talk to the most important thing you've done though. The thing where I was so thrilled she finally stood up to the TSA. I'm sorry, but I'm telling you, I am, I, I, you will be the greatest DHS secretary in the history of, I think we should get rid of the TSA, abolish it, privatize it, you don't have to comment on it, you could just smile. But what you did with the shoes is a breakthrough for humanity.

The deportations are fine. The shoes, big. It was so, I think the first day I had the job, I said to TSA, okay, tell me, like legit, we're just making this up on the shoes, right? I mean, do we really have to take off our shoes? I really wanna know if you're just, why, if this actually adds anything to our security,

if it actually keeps us safer in airplanes. Every single thing that we do at TSA, I've questioned. And when they came back and showed how we'd advanced keeps us safer in airplanes. Every single thing that we do at TSA, I've questioned. And when they came back and showed how we'd advanced in our technology and our multi-layered screening process and what we've done, clearly we didn't have to be taking off our shoes. So we've got a lot of reforms coming through TSA. I'm excited about it. You know I always pick your brain on it. I know. Everybody likes to pick them.

I have a theory politically that President Trump's one of his legacy will be like, you used to wait 30 minutes at the airport And now you wait only 90 seconds to get through the security line. What a like Imagine the quality of life improvement Well, so what's possible with what I'm working towards is what's possible at these airports Is that you walk in the door with your carry-on bag? You just walk through a screener and keep going and go right to your plane. I'm not kidding.

So that's where we're going and we'll get there. That would be so liberating. Yes. Christie, I could say, Governor, Secretary, you're doing an amazing job. You had a tough job. We're behind you 100 percent. We're praying for you. And honestly, the success of your mission is, I think, the most important for President

Trump's agenda. God bless you. Thank you so much. Thank you bless you. Thank you so much. Thank you, Charlie. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening. God bless.

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