The Charlie Kirk Show - Is It Time To Pull the Covid Shots Off the Market?

Episode Date: May 13, 2025

Why is early-onset Alzheimer's dramatically more common than in the past? Why is childhood obesity and pre-diabetes so much much higher today? And why has America been paying so much more for drugs th...an other developed countries? New FDA Commissioner Dr. Marty Makary answers all manner of questions from Charlie, including one about the mRNA Covid shots that are still on the market and still being forced on millions of people. Plus, Collin Plume of Noble Gold talks to Charlie about gold and silver's prospects in the Trump economy, and they also have a conversation on the value of not drinking alcohol. Watch ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, everybody. Charlie Kirk here, live from the Bitcoin.com studio. Dr. Marty McCary, commissioner of the FDA, joins the program, and he makes some major news. We talk about, should the COVID shot still be on the schedule for children, the child vaccination schedule? We talk about the food pyramid, and are we going to get rid of pharmaceutical advertisement on TV? Big news made here with Dr. Marty McCary. Then we also have my very good friend, Colin Plume from noblegoldinvestments.com. We talk about a lot, but also including why drinking is really bad for you. Why maybe you should stop putting poison in your body. Really fun conversation. noblegoldinvestments.com. That is noblegoldinvestments.com. Email us as always,
Starting point is 00:00:40 freedom at charliekirk.com and get involved with turning point usa at tpusa.com that is tpusa.com buckle up everybody here we go charlie what you've done is incredible here maybe charlie kirk is on the college campus i want you to know we are lucky to have charlie kirk charlie kirk's running the white house folks i want to thank charlie he's an incredible guy his spirit his love of this country he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA. We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Noble Gold Investments is the official gold sponsor of The Charlie Kirk Show, a company that specializes in gold IRAs and physical delivery of precious metals. Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investments at noblegoldinvestments.com. That is noblegoldinvestments.com. It's where I buy all of my gold. Go to noblegoldinvestments.com. Great honor to have with us the commissioner of the FDA and on this very exciting news day, Dr. Marty McCary. Doctor, great to see you. Congratulations in your role, of course. Tell us the significance of President Trump's announcement and declaration today. Well, thanks, Charlie. Great to see you and good to be with you.
Starting point is 00:02:08 So politicians have been talking about this for a long time. And this is one of those common sense things that nobody has been willing to actually do. And this is what I love about President Trump. Here you have Americans paying 10, 12, or 15 times more for the same medication that Germans or British folks or people in France are getting at the lower price. And nobody has said, stop, wait a minute, what's going on here? By the way, sometimes these are American companies that are price gouging Americans as other wealthy nations get these sweetheart low prices. So the president has basically said no longer. And he's not saying it as a, you know, looking for small incremental changes. He wants dramatic changes to create a level playing field. He wants to make sure
Starting point is 00:02:58 Americans can get the same most favored nation status price that these other countries are getting. And I think you're going to see a real change in the price of these medications when you pick them up at the pharmacy and in the medical bill, meaningful changes that are going to be pretty massive. So talk about what is most favored nation status. This sounds so rational. This sounds so common sense. Tell us what is favored nation status. And then if you will, strongman the opposition argument as to what is some of the opposition we can expect now that this has been signed? Yeah, good point. So most favored nation status is a declaration that Americans deserve.
Starting point is 00:03:42 They deserve the best price of a medication that is sold to wealthy countries, what we call OECD countries. So we're not saying we need the price that Ethiopia has or other poor countries. We're saying we want the price that wealthy nations get. They negotiate prices. They have a free market. Why is the United States paying for all this R&D and upfront costs from basically price-gouging Americans? Now, some will say that it will mean lower profits for pharma. Well, pharma has to figure out why they are charging such a lower price in other countries. They need to reconcile this massive disparity. And some might say that there might be less money
Starting point is 00:04:28 for R&D. Well, I don't think so. Pharma is pretty smart. They're going to create a level playing field because we are asking them to and we're doing it in a kind way. But we are also letting them know that we have the full regulatory authority of Medicare, of the Federal Trade Commission, of the trade representative, of the Department of Justice to ensure no monopoly pricing. And even at FDA, we have good relationships with pharma, and we also have some carrots and sticks. So you're seeing an incredible coordinated effort come around now to try to bring this, to bring it home, and to actually make it happen. This is something politicians have talked about, but no one's made it happen. They've probably been worried about
Starting point is 00:05:08 the pharma lobby, which is a massive lobby in Washington, D.C. I actually think when we see lower prices for Americans, you're going to see more access for lower income and minority communities. They have had a tough time paying high prices in the healthcare system across the board, hospital bills, doctor's bills, drug prices. So we're actually going to see more access, not less, as some may argue, when they say that R&D is going to take a hit from this, that's going to mean less drugs available. I think you're going to see more availability. Yeah. So that has been the response I've received just by text messages, friends, donors, a turning point. Oh, my goodness, this is going to bankrupt the pharmaceutical
Starting point is 00:05:52 incentive model. But look, I think, first of all, their profits are at all time highs. And again, it's amazing to me that Joe Biden didn't do this. Barack Obama didn't do this. It's just this is just a matter of the act of the will? It took enough courage to stand up to the pharmaceutical companies. Is it as simple as that? Yes, it is, because Barack Obama talked about doing this. Bernie Sanders has talked about this a fair bit. Bill Clinton talked about this. Matter of fact, in his second term, he talked about it a lot. But all of them came short of actually doing it because it takes a bold move where you're willing to go up against massive special interests and lobbyists to get this done. But it's also something that sort of polls very low among the lobbyist community but polls very high on Main Street among everyday Americans. So I think you're going to see some really amazing activity on this. And I'm excited to be a part of it. to support that. There's a debate now of how much money people actually save. What estimates do you say that the average American can now save on their prescription drugs?
Starting point is 00:07:11 Well, we're going to see. We're going to work hard at this. There's a lot of things we can do at FDA. One of the main issues in drug pricing is monopoly pricing. So at the FDA, we can do more to bring more generics to market. We can move drugs to over-the-counter where there's more price transparency. And we can also facilitate the generic version of these expensive drugs called biologics. They're the things that are running nonstop. After I do a TV interview, they, you know, okay, thank you, Dr. McCary, for coming on. And then nonstop ads for these biologics. Why?
Starting point is 00:07:46 Is it because there's an epidemic that's new around the conditions that they treat? No, it's because they're gouging Americans and the proxy payers for Americans, their employer groups and their insurance plans. And so those biologics have generic versions that are much less expensive. They're called biosimilars. And the FDA has been slow to get those biosimilars to market. There's a lot of reasons for it. We're going to streamline that. And we're going to encourage more biologics. And let's remember, we got the Maha Commission report coming out next Thursday, May 22nd.
Starting point is 00:08:21 And the best way to lower drug prices in the United States are to stop taking drugs we don't need. That's right. That's right. I'm so glad. Can you let's just go. So this is it's a breakthrough to hear from the FDA commissioner. This is why I work so hard to get President Trump elected. Is it true, Mr. Director, that we don't need a pill for every ill? We don't. And it's not helping. The more antidepressants we prescribe, the more depression there is. The more ADHD medications we prescribe, the more ADHD there is.
Starting point is 00:08:49 The more opioids that were prescribed, the more opioid addiction there is. I mean, we are going backwards. We're not in a good place. We're watching our nation's kids sick, putting their hand on their belly because they don't feel well. That makes them depressed.
Starting point is 00:09:04 It brings on so many problems. There's learning loss. There's all kinds of neurodegenerative disorders that are on the rise. I was told a lot of lies in medical school. One of them was that Alzheimer's was going up because we have an aging population that's expanding. Well, guess what? Early-onset Alzheimer's has gone up threefold in recent
Starting point is 00:09:26 decades. That's not explained by an expanding early population. Kids are not overweight and have diabetes and prediabetes because of a willpower problem. This is something adults have done to children. And the F in FDA stands for food, which is why we're looking not just at removing all petroleum-based food dyes, as we announced two weeks ago. We're looking at all chemical ingredients in the U.S. food supply that are banned in other countries that have concerning health issues. And that is our focus. It's on food, not just on drugs. Are you challenging these pharmaceutical companies about the efficacy and the safety of some of these drugs. Sometimes these drugs have side effects that a lot of people are not always properly
Starting point is 00:10:12 read into. About one minute remaining. Absolutely. Look, we have to public, we have to safeguard public safety. That is the number one mission of the FDA. That means no more pill popping, having no idea what you're taking. It means we take a look at ads on television to make sure you're getting accurate claims as to what the side effects are. So we're going to use the full extent of all the regulatory authority we have to make sure people are properly informed and not just, we are drugging our nation's kids at scale and nobody has been talking about root causes. We need to look at everything.
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Starting point is 00:11:49 GoodRanchers.com. American meat delivered. We have the phenomenal commissioner of the FDA, Dr. McCary. What a change it is versus what happened under Joe Biden. So a question, doctor, that I'm getting from a lot of people, and I know that you're getting it as well, and feel free to answer it however you feel appropriate, is whether the COVID shot will remain on the child vaccination schedule. And I know that this is hotly debated. We believe on this program it should not be on the child vaccination schedule.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Are you guys thinking about this? Your thoughts, Commissioner? Look, I'd love to see the evidence to show that giving young, healthy children another COVID shot, you know, a sixth COVID booster would help them, but that evidence does not exist. And so we're not just going to rubber stamp things at the FDA, and I don't think you're going to see a push at the CDC to be pushing COVID shots in young, healthy children. That is something that's being discussed right now. I think you're going to see some announcement on that in the coming weeks. But I know they are trying to review all of the scientific data. And guess what? There's no data. There's no good randomized control data that the current version, the latest formulation of the COVID shot is necessary for young, healthy children. Other countries have already recommended against it. Other leading countries in Europe have recommended against it for young, healthy children.
Starting point is 00:13:19 So I think you're going to see a look at this and you're going to hear something forthcoming. Well, I'm thrilled to hear that. And as you know, the significance also is once you are on the childhood vaccination schedule with it becomes other immunity protections. So there's other kind of very sinister elements associated, the liability protections. So, Mr. Commissioner, what I love about your approach is that the FDA sometimes only focuses on the D and not the F. It seems as if all the focus is on the drugs and not the food. One of the, let's just say, charter mission statements of my life and of this program is that the thing you do the most is the stuff you eat, so you should be eating good stuff, not bad stuff. Are you thinking of blowing up the food pyramid? This is like the third rail. I know that this might have a whole committee associated with it, but how we ever got to the place where we think that carbohydrates like gluten and wheat and rice
Starting point is 00:14:13 are better for you than healthy fats and meat. The entire food pyramid, honestly, is, I think, largely propaganda by some of our food companies. I know that's another tough issue to tackle, but talk about the F in the FDA, please. Well, I think at minimum it's propaganda. It's probably one of the greatest pieces of misinformation put out by the United States government on health is that food pyramid. It was not about what's good for your health. It was about what companies wanted you to buy. And so that has done a tremendous amount of damage in all seriousness. You have kids now that are growing up sick because of that food pyramid. You have companies that got rich because of that food pyramid. You have
Starting point is 00:14:57 doctors and scientists who put their head in the sand because they were afraid to challenge that food pyramid. Well, we're not afraid to challenge it. The FDA is actively involved in revising our nutrition guidance. The secretary has asked us to make that front and center. You're going to see a new framework for health put out by the Maha Commission next week. You're seeing an enlightenment right now, recognizing it's not calories in, calories out. That's the old misinformation dogma. It matters what those calories are. Your macros. That's right.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Exactly. Your macros. You can't just pump in ultra-processed foods and think all sugar can be broken down into a calorie energy expenditure. It matters. People have got to be eating whole foods, natural foods, things that appear in nature. And we have turned a blind eye to that as a government until now. The final one, doctor, and it's all, I know this is another toughie, just something to think about,
Starting point is 00:15:58 is one of the reasons why the pharmaceutical companies are able to basically put forward a pill for every ill is the fact that they're able to dominate our news networks. I know you talked about this during COVID and they're able to buy so much television advertising. Is it even legal to say that you're not allowed to advertise certain drugs on TV? Is it good for us? Has the amount of advertising that pharmaceutical companies do, has it improved the health of our Americans? And what are you guys thinking about here? Well, we're looking at that, Charlie. The secretary and the president have asked us to look at that because people may not be getting a fair representation of what these
Starting point is 00:16:32 drugs do and their side effects. You're not always dancing and singing every time you take one of these medications. I mean, sometimes you watch these commercials nonstop and you think, OK, I give up. I'll take it. I don't know what it's for, but I'll take it. And so we're looking at everything. As you may know, one of my first actions as FDA commissioner was to remove pharma and industry members from FDA advisory committees, wherever statutorily possible. We want American pharma companies to thrive and businesses doing business in the United States to thrive, but we want a user-friendly process for pharma. We want to partner with them. We want to facilitate innovation and discoveries and cures.
Starting point is 00:17:11 But the scientific review process and the integrity of the FDA must remain independent, and that is our commitment as an administration. Could not agree more. If you ask my opinion, ban it all. There's no good use to be able to advertise i don't know just this nonsense on tv of people dancing in the hills and the meadows ban it we'd be a better country because of it thank you so much commissioner great to see you thank you good to be with you charlie the world is waking up to the power of gold. National banks are scrambling to secure it.
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Starting point is 00:18:30 of a cold coin. Visit noblegoldinvestments.com. That's noblegoldinvestments.com. The world is turning to gold. Shouldn't you be looking into doing that too? We are just having a great conversation with my friend here, Colin Plume. Colin, great to see you. We were talking about not drinking.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Yes, yes. We should talk about that in a second. Yeah, so I saw your interview with Newsome, and it was a great interview overall. Thank you. But the thing that stuck with me is he asked you about why you quit drinking, and you said, I want to be more successful, or I want to be successful. I wanted to be more successful, right? More successful, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:02 And I quit drinking a year and a half ago, and I'm actually writing a book about it that will come out. About quitting drinking? Yeah. That's amazing. Tell me about that. And what it's done for my life. Well, I think as a business owner and a father, even if you didn't drink all week and then Friday night you had a few,
Starting point is 00:19:21 I would wake up Saturday morning and just be tired and not engaged with my kids as much as I wanted to. And then, so that was one aspect. And then it was just the ups and downs of owning a business, you know, the stress, the anxiety, I mean, you know, and I wanted to just test it out. So I had a major surgery. I had my hip replaced and I said, I'm just going to try it after the surgery. And I just felt better and better. And I felt quicker. Yes. And I get, and I better. And I felt quicker. Yes. And I get, and I think the most important thing is, is that I was able to, like when I had struggles, I was able to recover from them quicker. Right. I mean, I don't know what you've, how, how it's. No, I mean like, look, I mean, I haven't had a drink in what, four or five years
Starting point is 00:19:58 and I was never a serious drinker at all, but it was one of those conscious decisions that you know i wanted to be more successful yes and i would go long by the way i would go like a year without a drinker nine months right yeah but it wasn't i wasn't like hard stop and then i got married with my wife erica and i was like i want to go to the next level i want to remember things yes with more clarity i want to be sharper i want to be more precise i want to be more precise. I want to be able to study. And then I also, to your point, the mornings are way better. Way better. Absolutely. And also, you do not sleep. I mean, literally, you do not sleep if you have too much alcohol in your system. Your body's not sleeping. You're just sedated. You don't get into actual deep
Starting point is 00:20:40 realm. I'm sure you've done all the research on this. Oh, yeah. And I have a good friend that I've been trying to convince him to take some time off. And, and the first month that he stopped, he's like, um, I'm not sleeping as well. And I'm like, actually, you're finally sleeping. You're actually finally sleeping. He just didn't know what sleep was. And by the way, that increases your inflammatory markers and all that. Sure. Do you think it's helped your business? A hundred percent. Yeah, absolutely. Just, you know, clarity, conversations, employees, like interactions. Like my, I'm not as, I'm never a pretty even keel person generally, but from time to time
Starting point is 00:21:12 I would, you know, get frustrated. That's most of that's gone. You know, frustration with your kids has gone. I mean, it's never gone away, but it's gone down. You're more centered. You're more present. Correct. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Yeah. It's just been a really smooth. I'd say the hardest part was the reaction from other people. People are a little taken aback by it. See, I don't mind as much. I just kind of fight for it. You're used to that. But that's a really. So honestly, when I break it down with people, they're like, honestly, I have to drink because
Starting point is 00:21:39 it would look weird if business. I would. How do you overcome that? I don't know. I just I just go into all the social settings like everybody else and then I just I can hang out in any environment and I just talk it's amazing you could still talk I could still communicate yeah I could still do it and and I don't judge anybody like I you know if they come to me and they want to ask questions or
Starting point is 00:21:59 whatever but I have found a lot of people around me have slowed down just because they have seen what it's done for me. And I haven't pushed it, but I think it's becoming more of the norm. Oh, it's becoming trendy right now. Trendy, yeah. And again, I'm not doing this to start a trend. It's just from Dennis Prager, who we should pray for, amazing man, Tucker Carlson, President Trump, to Elon barely drinks. He's not like, I don't drink. I think he might have Trump to Elon barely drinks. Like he's not like I don't drink. I think he might have wanted to drink a year.
Starting point is 00:22:26 The top performing people I've ever been around, they are very against alcohol, against substances. And they'll tell you they perform better. They think clearer. They have better memory, better recall, more energy, more pace. And I also find that some of the people that drink the most, they're hiding something. They're mashing something.
Starting point is 00:22:44 So it's just so amazing. Yeah, been it's been extraordinary and and just like to be able to gather more uh information i feel like i can just take in a lot without it and like if you and i have a conversation like i'm more i'd remember i want to remember more well and people say you know charlie how do you remember all this stuff like first i have a good memory i work hard at it i eat very clean you, but also I don't drink. I'm not poisoning my body. And again, I don't mean to attack people that drink. Plenty of good people do, but it is poison.
Starting point is 00:23:12 I mean, there is no, it is actual poison. Your body metabolizes it as if it is an arsenic. Yeah. A hundred percent. Yeah. I mean, Andrew Huberman has lots of video and I've watched her skin. It's bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:23 It's bad for all those. Every everything. Yeah. So it's, it's been good and, watched her skin it's bad yeah it's bad for all those every everything yeah so it's it's been good and and yeah it's definitely helped and and we've been so busy you know well yeah let's talk about that so i mean it's a great connection so now you're like superpower colin yeah right superhuman thank you and what a time because so just everyone background i need to do a good job introducing colin plume here for noble gold investments.com they are our partner for gold, silver All that good stuff
Starting point is 00:23:46 Precious metals is the right way to say it Noblegoldinvestments.com We have you on frequently We love talking about economic news But you've had a surprisingly good year It's a good time not to be drinking What's going on with gold and silver? I think that when President Trump
Starting point is 00:24:03 Got elected People didn't know what was happening in the markets. I think everyone just paused, you know, for a few months. And then once he moved forward with his agenda, which, you know, the big agenda would be the tariff conversation, I think a lot of the money didn't know what was going to happen. And so we just had this real flight to safety. Coupled with the fact that the last quarter, I don't know if you remember, but when we were talking about gold last year, which was already running, the retail, U.S. retail market was late to the game.
Starting point is 00:24:36 So the European market was buying. Central banks had been buying. They bought 1,000 tons of gold for four years in a row. But our U.S. market was late. So the last quarter of last year, they started to dive into gold you started to hear about it hedge funds are buying gold big big groups apollo group all these started buying gold by mark rowan yeah yeah exactly and um and then this year it just you know people still they didn't know where to go they know what's going to happen there's this is inflation going to be around how is that going
Starting point is 00:25:04 to affect things so gold started to go up. So since President Trump's been in office, gold is up 34%. And so here's what's amazing about that is that, well, there's a lot. And I'm actually going to just fact check myself here. So yeah, so while gold was going up, Bitcoin was going down. And that actually was a really interesting test of what do you trust more. Again, I'm very pro-crypto. But when the cards were down, the actual flight for safety was not cryptography.
Starting point is 00:25:31 It was gold. That must have been very educational. Yeah, and I think we've been seeing this for a long time. And also, gold hadn't moved up as much as some of the other things that had gone up with inflation. I mean, we all saw all the inflationary numbers over the last two years of electricity costs and everything that had gone up pretty substantially, but gold hadn't moved. But yeah, I think it was a testament to gold that investors that were typically gun-shy were diving into gold.
Starting point is 00:25:58 And the U.S. sentiment right now, they just came out with a report, 25% of Americans feel more confident about gold than they feel about the dollar. And they feel even about equities. But less than 10% of Americans actually own physical gold. So they don't all own it, but they feel pretty good about it. So that consumer sentiment, I think, is really telling. When I started the business 16 years ago, I think it was less than 3% or 4% that was interested in gold. So if, again, we don't do investment advice here we legally cannot we just present the options you do whatever you want noble gold investments.com i can however vouch for collins integrity and his character and how the company up that i i will
Starting point is 00:26:33 endorse the company you guys make your own decisions you have your own agency but let's talk about facts if somebody would have listened to one of our our partnership you know conversations and they would have been drawn to buy gold a year ago yeah how would they have done a year ago so since trump got in office it's up 34 a year ago today it's like 42 42 percent up yeah that's unbelievable yeah so it's out it's it's outpaced what about like five years ago five years ago we're in 2020 so 2020 well it depends because that was 20 there was a spike that was it yes let's just say a couple years ago yeah a couple years ago you know it was the thing was is that that two thousand dollar an ounce was a really telling number yep that was like is it gonna break through is it what's a psychological barrier correct like what's
Starting point is 00:27:20 gonna happen at 2000 and i remember people having this conversation like it's got too expensive. It broke 2000 and it kind of hovered around 2000 to three years ago. And then it obviously broke through. But now it's a 3200. We're at 3200. Yeah. And today is actually a great day to buy because it's down today because of what happened with the China deal. So it pulled back today.
Starting point is 00:27:40 So, you know, it's like a stair step. Right. You see these stair step kind of moves. But the tariff situation is it's like a it's like a high stakes game of musical chairs. And like what happened today, the way I think about it was like what happened today is that like we put one more chair back. Yes, we've been pulling chairs away and we put a chair back. So it feels a little bit better. The stock market bounced. So gold's down today. Silver's very resilient today. So that's pretty interesting. Silver's around $33. $32, $33 today. Yeah. So it hasn't had the, it's up 11% this year. It hasn't had the
Starting point is 00:28:13 massive run. That's very good. It's still very good. Yeah. Hasn't had the massive run of gold, but silver's different because it's not a monetary metal. It's an industrial metal. It's a technical use, right? It's a technical use metal. So I think if you're looking at where things are right now, and silver still hasn't made that big move, and it has so many industrial uses, I think silver is going to be interesting. So talk about the incoming of phone calls you're receiving and then the trends that you are processing.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Yeah. receiving, and then the trends that you are processing? Yeah, well, I think it's this year has been the most interesting year of phone calls, because people have, you know, started, they start some paperwork, they get a little bit, and then they're trying to figure out what's going to happen. They're looking at their stocks, you know, they're deciding what's what am I going to do. So I think it's been a lot of start stop. But for a lot of people, and this is what we've always said is like, this is just one piece the pie it's diversification um and people are really liking the idea of getting the actual physical as opposed to the stock form yeah so are you doing a lot of home delivery home delivery and and i think that was spurred a lot by what happened with the london bullion exchange
Starting point is 00:29:20 what happened there basically what happened was that people started calling their contracts right before the tariffs were kicking in. And the London Bullion Exchange didn't have enough gold. And so people were like, well, I have a contract. It's supposed to be there. And what was happening is that people were wanting to get their gold and ship to the U.S. And so the London Bullion Exchange is like, sorry, we don't have it. And it's like, well, I own it.
Starting point is 00:29:41 It's supposed to be there. And that caused more of a hysteria. Did it create a run? It created a run on gold. People wanted to get their gold. They wanted to get it closer to home. So I think what's happened this year, which has been interesting, is that people have been selling their gold stock and then just buying the real thing. So is there a fractional banking gold?
Starting point is 00:30:00 Well, that's what they're saying about the run in exchange. Are you legally allowed to fractionally store gold? I mean, you could if you told people that, but they didn't tell people that. We all exist in a fractional banking system. Your money's not actually there. But if gold's there, that's really bad. That's not good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:19 And that did cause... I mean, we're talking about big institutions at the exchange that wanted it. And they were being told like we'll have it in four to six weeks. And it's like, well, you're supposed to have it there all the time. It's not – you're not supposed to have it there part time. Yeah, it's kind of like the – it's the Seinfeld episode where Jerry goes to get the rental car. It's like I have a reservation. Oh, right, right.
Starting point is 00:30:43 It'll be a couple hours. No, no, but – It's right here. The car, the reservation. Give me the get the rental car. It's like, I have a reservation. Oh, right, right. It'll be a couple hours. No, no, but it's right here. The car, the reservation. Give me the keys to the car. It's like, oh, no, no, we'll get it later. We don't have the car. We don't have it. We don't have it.
Starting point is 00:30:51 We don't have the car. That's scary. Noblegoldinvestments.com, like 20 seconds. Just talk about the website, how people navigate it. Yeah, noblegoldinvestments.com. Been in business, it'll be 10 years next year. Obviously, proud partner with Charlie. And yeah, I mean, last week was really telling. We had a client talk to another dealer, called us. We saved them over $22,000 on that purchase. We've saved people
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Starting point is 00:31:58 And that growth means jobs. Today, there's over 7.5 million U.S. businesses on TikTok employing more than 28 million people. And that number keeps growing. Small businesses thrive on TikTok. Learn more about TikTok's contribution to the U.S. economy at TikTokEconomicImpact.com. We're getting lots of emails from you guys, FreedomAtCharlieKirk.com. Someone says here, a long time ago, someone told me that in a social setting, people do not care what you drink, but that that you drink so he would order sparkling water on ice and no one would know the difference there is some truth there i always drink sparkling water yeah and i also i'm of the opinion that it actually is a good conversation starter we're like oh you don't drink like yep
Starting point is 00:32:35 i don't drink and i'm better for it like yeah you might actually prompt somebody to get out of you know alcohol yeah and and people need that sometimes they need that prod you know they need, or they need to hear somebody. And you shouldn't shame people. That's not, that's not what we're saying. No. Right. You shouldn't. No, no. Everyone has their free will. They have agency, but yeah. Also we need to be clear that it's, it's not good for you. Yeah. Yeah. And, and, and you were right. What you said was right. You're more successful. I mean, listen, let's, let's not take away what you've done the last four or five years. I mean, that it has a part in your success. Without a doubt.
Starting point is 00:33:07 I say this. I could not do what I do if I even had moderate consumption of alcohol. Impossible. Yeah. So you have to choose. Do you want to be buzzed or do you want to be successful? Yeah. So this one says, Charlie, I drank heavily for 30 plus years.
Starting point is 00:33:21 One day I decided I had enough and I never looked back. It's been five years since I had a drink and I don't want another. It has helped me be a better husband, father, employee, and friend. Nice. Great stuff. Okay. There's this funny kind of tie. This is why I was laughing. There's this
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Starting point is 00:34:17 NobleGoldInvestments.com. Tell us about the silver-gold ratio. Yeah, so there's only been a few times, very short amount of times, that it's broken this 100 to 1. So 100 ounces of silver to 1 ounce of gold. And typically when you see these kind of ratios, it doesn't stick for a long time.
Starting point is 00:34:35 It got down, even in 2011, it got down to 30 to 1. Wow. Which, by the way, if it went even 60 to 1 today, you're talking about silver being well over $100 an ounce. So there's a lot of these silver bugs that believe, like, what's going on with silver? Where is that going to move? And so the thing that I like about silver is that there is a silver shortage. It's using everything, solar panels, electric, I mean, you name it, it's in there. Drones.
Starting point is 00:35:03 And actually, the government, a lot of people don't know this. The government last year, they buy gold and silver every year. Last year was the first year they bought over $400 million of silver and a little over $100 million in gold. Wow. Not for reserve. We wish they bought it for reserve, but they just bought it for, you know, industrial uses. Yeah. And mostly for defense.
Starting point is 00:35:24 They use it a lot for drones, all that stuff. They need silver. So I like that usage. 18 to 30 grams goes on the solar panels that, you know, that seems to be growing and growing. So I just like the continued usage. And if you're worried about where gold is and you're worried about the price, I think that there's a story to be told about silver. It hasn't made that big run yet. You have a whole new book. Silver is the new oil. Correct. Right. Yeah. I don't know if we're plugging that today, but it's great. Yeah, we can plug. Yeah. People can find it at noble gold investments. It's a noble gold investments. And it's great. Very compelling. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. I wanted to catch up to you and all your books. Maybe one
Starting point is 00:36:00 day I'll be there. I have a new one coming out soon. Oh, you do. Oh, OK. All about the Sabbath. You'll love it. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, okay. But why taking a day off from work could change you? Because Prager, didn't he talk to you about doing this? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I incorporated it in my life. Really?
Starting point is 00:36:13 And the book is called Stop in the Name of God. Oh, wow. Okay. How honoring the Sabbath will transform your life. Okay. So I'm finally finishing it. Anyway, that's a... I'm excited.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Yeah. Oh, you'll love it. No, I say this. It's written to change your life. because you need that day and you need to work for six and have a whole day for family for god to disconnect and i make an argument that you actually get more done in six days if you take one day of rest than if you were to work all seven that's great anyway so that's it um so the talk about so the goal of Silver Ratio, you get calls. What is one thing that you wish that you could tell millions of people,
Starting point is 00:36:50 just kind of like, man, I wish everyone knew this educational element about what you're doing? Yeah, I would say the first thing is that you're buying the real thing. And we sell bullion coins and bars. And when I say that, it means we sell that because it's the highest purity and the lowest. You get the most value. And I think what happens is you go to a lot of websites and you see they have so many different coins and bars. And anytime you make a special coin or special bar, either the company is going to try to make a huge amount or it just costs more or whatever it's going to be. But at the end of the day, all those modern day ones, they're not worth anything different.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Listen, if you get an old shipwreck coin, I remember I brought a shipwreck coin. I loved it. It was good. Okay, that's from 1855. There's only a few of those. But any of this new stuff, focus on weight and purity. The other thing is, what kind of relationship are you going to have with the dealer? And that's where I can vouch and start an exchange.
Starting point is 00:37:41 There's a lot of shysters, a lot of bad people in the gold space. Colin's the real deal. Keep going. Yeah. And so people are like, great, let's say you bought in gold a year or two ago and then you try to go back to that place and they don't want to buy it back
Starting point is 00:37:52 or they won't give you a great price. You need a two-way street. The beauty behind us is because we only sell 10 to 12 different products. I'm happy to buy it back because I'm going to sell it to somebody else. I'm not like a pawn shop. I don't have 4,000 different items. So I don't need to be concerned. I'm always going to, you sell me
Starting point is 00:38:08 back a bar, I'm going to sell it to the next person. So I think it's important to think about not only how you get in, but also your exit. And it's the same thing in business, right? People always say that, like, if you're going to get into a business, think about who's going to buy you. It's the same thing when you're buying a physical item, you want to know how you're going to liquidate that later. So that's the thing that I think is most important. And then the last thing is like the market's up or down. You want to have a relationship. Like we build relationships with people. People can call one of my top guys. Josh is actually here today and he came to meet you and be a part of this. But the ultimate experience is just having that
Starting point is 00:38:43 relationship with noble gold investments dot com. I can vouch totally for Colin's integrity, his honesty, his transparency. So give him a look. NobleGoldInvestments.com. Promo code Charlie. Colin, thanks so much. Thanks, Charlie. See you guys tomorrow. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening and God bless. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.

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