The Charlie Kirk Show - Is the Culture Apocalypse Upon Us?

Episode Date: December 12, 2025

Soon, there may no longer be a “Hollywood.” There will only be Netflix. Allum Bokhari joins the show to analyze the danger of Netflix buying Warner Bros and building a monopoly on American culture. TPUSA Frontlines director Brandon Drey comes on to introduce their growing roster of crack reporters and detail the stories they have been covering across the country, from immigration enforcement to Antifa terrorism. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He's from the Foundation for Freedom Online. He's been a guest on this show multiple times in the past, so it's good to have him back. You can find him at X at Alam Bacari, B-O-K-H-A-R-I. Alan, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's good to see you. Good to be back home. Yeah, it was wonderful. So we are here to talk about Netflix and Warner Brothers. Netflix Warner Brothers merger yet again. We've talked a bit about this, but you have a new piece in the American conservative where you say it's quite the headline. It's Netflix swallowing Warner Brothers would create a monster. So that sounds like a fun discussion to have. So why don't we just give it to you? Why would, you know, you're from the foundation for freedom online. How does giant?

media company buying other giant media company undermine freedom online? Well, I mean, first there's a clear-cut competition case to be made here, right? I mean, so Netflix is already the largest streaming platform in America with 81 million subscribers. If this deal went through, there'd be almost 50 million subscribers more than their closest competitor. So that's just a clear-cut and competition case, you know. Concentration of markets always leads to declining consumer choice. and declining consumer standards. So there's that issue. But there's also the wokeness question.

I mean, there's the wokenness question here as well. Most of Silicon Valley, most social media platforms, I've been fairly sympathetic to where they've been going over the last three or four years. They've gone, they've done a little bit of a U-turn, especially in case of X on their 2016-2020-year censorship policies. They've rolled back some of those censorship policies. YouTube, for example, has unbanned.

a number of prominent creators that had banned during the worst of censorship. So, you know, many of the social media platforms have rolled back their censorship policies. And in a way, social media, you know, it's inherently disrupted the legacy media, right? So even when, even at the height of censorship, when trust and safety departments were banning conservative commentators, the logic of social media was to disrupt the legacy media and the post-war liberal order, which had held up. Now, Netflix is not like that at all because they're a studio first and a technology company second. So even though they're disrupting Hollywood, you could say that they've definitely done that.

Because they're a studio first, they still have that ideological gatekeeping roles. In a way, they combine the worst elements of post-2016 Silicon Valley wokeness with Hollywood liberalism to create something that's worse than both. So, I mean, I'm not sure why any Republican administration want to give a company like that more power. Yeah, I like this line that you have in your piece where you just say, what makes Netflix notable is not just its size, but its ideological consistency. So we saw that Microsoft retreated from its partnership with NewsGuard.

They've cozyed up to the administration. Meta, Mark Zuckerberg, came out and said, we're dialing back fact checking, we're not going to be the speech police. Google's cozied up to the administration. We've had all of this. But Netflix, it's sort of permanently 2020 over at Netflix. Would that be a fair description?

That's a very fair description. You just have to look at Reed Hastings' reaction to Peter Thiel backing Trump back in 2016. He sent him an angry email saying, I can't believe you did this. He have terrible judgment for backing Trump, whereas someone like Mark Zuckerberg was a lot more even-handed. Even when he was aligned himself personally against Trump, you know, he put out some statement. saying he respected diversity of ideological viewpoints. So that really shows that Netflix is all in for progressive ideology. And that really makes sense when you consider that they're a combination of a Silicon Valley tech company with a Hollywood studio.

I mean, those are two types of companies that tend to have very, very woke, liberal, internal politics. And you can see that in the fact that they put Susan Rice on their board in 2018 and brought her back after her stint in the Biden administration. Yeah, so, Alam, I had like kind of more of a basic question, actually. And, you know, I was like, why do we even have, why does this company even need to be sold, right? I mean, Warner Brothers Discovery. And this is, by the way, it contains assets like CNN, TNT, uh, HDTV. So it has the linear side. Then they have this huge library of content. Is there an argument that this company doesn't have to be sold at all? Or is that off the table? at this point. I'm not sure why it has to be sold either. It seems nothing more than a power grab by Netflix to increase its market share even further. Like I said, it's already the biggest company in the market for streaming, and this would make them even huger. And like you said, it also gives them more power over the new cycle in addition to a monopoly on storytelling and entertainment franchises with their ownership of CNN. Yeah, well, and so that's the interesting. I kind of wonder

what's going to happen with CNN in this this mad dash to sell it so I think we've seen this where there's been pressure where they might just have to spin it off or change that or dial it back and I do wonder if that could be the cheap way

that they satisfy the administration is this administration I think it would be fair to say they President Trump he's a very television aged person he watches a lot of TV he's on TV all of the time he thinks a lot about Fox CNN Newsmax all of those Right. And so he would view CNN as an extremely important part of this deal, yet in the big picture, it is clear these networks, they're shrinking in importance, especially CNN. I think they're still dead last in ratings. And is the future in 20 years going to be defined by these news networks? I'm skeptical. It is going to be much more decentralized. There will be more options. There will be more independent shows. And I guess I would express the worry that,

if we just see this as a CNN thing, when it's really much more about who's controlling the commanding heights of popular culture. Yes, it's the cultural economy, and we shouldn't underestimate that, the power of storytelling, especially its influence over young people. Netflix is already a meme. I mean, if you go on X and you search for, you know, Netflix adaptation, you'll see all sorts of jokes about, oh, Netflix is going to adapt Beowulf, and then they're going to make Beowulf into a black lesbian immediately. I mean, you'll see jokes like that. And it's not exactly an exaggeration. These companies really are probably the most liberal and progressive companies in America today.

And, you know, do you really want to give companies like that more power? I think we should be thinking more about how we're going to disrupt, how the market can disrupt Hollywood, disrupt these big entertainment studios and their chokehold over culture and the gatekeeping role that they play over, you know, the major, you know, the great Western stories that they all control through these IP controller contracts. and you know i think there's silicon valley definitely has a role there especially with a i but uh netflix is definitely not uh not a disrupting agent like some other tech companies have been so so to bring the audience up to speed here so netflix had the winning bid at 72 billion dollars cash and stock deal for the studios HBO max DC and gaming assets so this excluded the cable networks and you know the expectation was going to close in 12 to 18 months

pending regulatory approval, which is a big way, a big, big thing there. So then Paramount comes in with a hostile counter on December 8th, so earlier this week, in all cash, $108.4 billion offer for all of W. Warner Brothers Discovery at $30 per share. So, and this is backed by the Ellison family, Jared Kushner's affinity partners, and Middle Eastern sovereign funds. Oh, boy. So it promises a faster closure. And six, billion dollars in synergies but raises antitrust flags due to further consolidation is it is it better to have is it better to have the the emir of abou dhabi on HBO I mean we probably wouldn't get as many like trans you probably wouldn't you probably wouldn't and you know gay trans you know whatever character adaptations and so president Trump has weighed in demanding CNN's sale in any deal so to Blake's point I mean that's that's that's that's where we find ourselves so you know So it was interesting as well, Alan, went on the other side of this break. So ponder it now. You know, you got President Trump come in and kind of took a shot at Paramount CBS with 60 Minutes and Leslie Stahl. And he's demanding an apology. So he's sort of applying pressure equally on both sides of this ledger. So it'll be interesting to see how this does play out. But I think your point is well made. The cultural implications are profound. And I think we would be, I think we'd be wrong, Blake. to downplay too much the power of television and storytelling even in 2025.

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What's going on with the DSA, Elon Musk, X, versus Meta. It's over these blue check marks that you pay $8 a month to be. verified on the platform. They're saying something was untoward there. But doesn't meta also have paid verification? It does. And just to put us in context, the EU Digital Services Act is probably the most dangerous censorship law in the world when it comes to online speech. It was brought in a couple of years ago, actually with the cooperation and encouragement of the Biden administration. And X has become was the first company to be investigated under the DSA after, you know, months and months of threats from European

bureaucrats that actually began right after must took over the company so as soon as must took over twitter turn it into x and started talking about how he's going to dismantle its internal censorship process that's when the threats from european bureaucrats started x became the first company to be investigated first company to be fined it's 120 million dollar euros it's about 140 million dollars. And if X doesn't comply, then the EU has the power to impose periodic penalties of up to 5% of a company's average daily worldwide turnover for each day of non-compliance. That's a massive, massive fine. No company can withstand that. And let's talk about why they were fined. So the EU points to three things. One of them, as you said, was subscriber checkmarks.

The second two things, number one, not giving. researchers quote unquote researchers access to Twitter's ad repository and not giving those same researchers access to Twitter's data or allowing researchers to scrape the platform for data. Now all three of those things are directly related to online censorship, even if they don't seem so at first. The subscriber checkmarks is how Twitter insulates itself from advertiser pressure because it gives us a stream of revenue that's not connected to ad revenue. So ad boycotts have less of an impact. Number two, making sure researchers have access to ad repositories. That's so the so-called disinformation researchers, who are the foot soldiers of censorship.

They're the ones who build lists of disfavored content, who build lists of speech to censor, and lists of advertisers to pressure for boycott. That's how they operate. That's why they need access to access ads, so they can see what ads are running. And they also need access to Twitter's public data so they can analyze it at scale, figure out who. which users are talking about the wrong things, which narratives are going viral. Without that access, disinformation researchers are blind,

and disinformation researchers are essentially the stasi of the worldwide censorship complex. It was funded by the previous administration and is funded by Western governments to control the internet. Exactly, exactly. Do you know about Travis Brown, Andrew?

No. You remember this story, right? Alam, he's the Antifa-aligned researcher. The German government funded this guy named Travis Brown to scrape the data off I believe it was Twitter at the time off of Twitter and then X

and then he would just give this to people aligned with Antifa to docks people so for example I believe when Libs of TikTok got doxed it was with information that he got off the website Andy Noe was involved yeah he they went after Andy Noah as well and I think the post millennial I think all of them got targeted

by this guy and he's considered a researcher and this is one of the researchers that the European Union is saying you need to give open access to data. I just think it's the most obvious thing in the world. What they want is to permanently use

misinformation, hate speech, safety. These are all the buzzwords that they've used that they used in America before 2022 to just justify unlimited censorship. Yeah. And Alam, I mean, you do have an accent. We can hear you're not from here. You know, Musk is

calling. He's basically saying, Western civilization can only be saved if the EU is abolished. I mean, these are, Musk is not holding anything back. He is, he is painting the EU as the chief villain in this story. Do you agree what can be reformed? I mean, they seem wholly committed to censorship. Yeah, I mean, the European Union hands and European and bureaucratic elites have the most incentive to shut down online free speech because little what's happening

in their countries, France, Germany, the Netherlands, Sweden. in all of these countries, young people are turning towards the populist right. And they're turning towards the populist right because they have free speech on the internet, because they can see information that challenges mainstream narratives. And European elites know if they don't shut that down, it'll be over for them and the parties, the political parties that support them. They'll just melt away as young voters take over. Yeah.

I mean, you would know better than us. However, what's happening in these countries is truly remarkable, Alam. And, I mean, you're seeing the disintegration of the Christian West by mass migration, and young Europeans are fed up with it, as we are, honestly, in the United States. However, we do have a more robust free speech culture. The whole world sort of looks to American conservatism to get their talking points, to get their inspiration. Alan, we hope you'll join us again as this story unfolds. I know there's going to be more twist and turns in the coming week. So thank you so much, Alam. Thanks, guys. Connection, open dialogue. These are the things that build communities. Charlie, Kirk, and TikTok share in that knowledge.

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All right, welcome to the set now. Brandon Drey, you're the manager of Frontlines TPSA. You're also a reporter. You started as a reporter. Now you're running it. And I would say that of all the sort of divisions or projects within Turning Point, Charlie was potentially the most excited about Frontlines. I can't say that for sure.

But there was times, I remember conversations when we were dreaming up, what Frontlines was going to be and could become, he was so bullish on Frontlines. So why don't you just describe what TPSA Frontlines is as a starting point? Well, first and foremost, I mean, Charlie was the original Frontlines reporter, right? I mean, he was out there demonstrating what it's like to be a man in the arena. And we're just carrying on that mission, right? So out of the 2020 riots with BLM and protests and all that stuff, a couple years into it, front lines emerged as this like on the ground journalism wing of turning point USA where we're going out and covering these protests these riots and we're getting this exclusive raw unfettered on the ground footage

and posting it directly to social media so that way people are getting the real truth of what's happening out there instead of the mainstream media which I was working for at the time they would cut away from these protests and these riots and they would show the more peaceful type mostly peaceful mostly peaceful side of things so you know from headlines was one of those guerrilla journalism style teams that was giving you the raw access to what was happening on the ground we had a show for a while it was a half hour show where we would kind of break down the news through original reporting but now we've grown into this nationwide network of videographers and journalists emphasizing truth objectivity and integrity you know through the

turning point lens and you know our our videos are often going viral we're picking up content that is the mainstream media is now forced to recognize because of its virality and you know it's just a really exciting time we you know we've obviously have made an impact we've broken stories we're we're getting we're expanding all the time we're on campuses showing things that are happening like for example at berkeley the other week well let's let's give the audience i mean i know if you're watching uh You can see it. But let's give the audience a little taste of some of what Frontlines does.

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These are people that want to destroy our country. We're not going to let it happen. Yeah. I mean, gosh, you guys put yourself in some pretty radical positions. really truly how many front line reporters do we now have so we have four full-time reporters and then we have about five contractors we're bringing on new people to just have boots on the ground in every part of the country that's a lot actually that's a lot of that's a bit i mean you worked at the the caller i mean to have nine journalists out in the field doing independent journalism

original journalism that's like starting to become that's a significant operation that There's a lot of stuff going on. Yeah, plus all the staff that you have, the camera crews, the travel. I mean, it's a whole operation to make this happen. I want to give some of these guys a shout out because some of them have been on the show, of course. You know, go ahead at 289, this is Cho Show, Jonathan Cho. Tell us about Jonathan Cho. There's nobody like the Cho show show.

I mean, this guy was in the mainstream media for decades and, you know, he was just too based for them. right so he he joined our team he's up in the pacific northwest he's in the pacific northwest he covers a lot of seattle and portland stories he's embedded with all these different underground networks where he's getting leads and you know often breaking these stories again that nobody else has um he infiltrated two antifa book fairs recently with one of our other contractors kevin calb six seven Kevin and they went and discovered where these militants plan and recruit for direct action and it's at a book fair right and so like for example the the riots that happened at UC Berkeley at our turning point event the other week we we knew about that ahead of time because we got the flyers

from the book fair well and you need to give us a heads up so we can alert authorities too absolutely that was the one note I got back from some of our friends was like hey next time you know something like this is going to happen please let us know but yeah so let's hear here's let's go to everybody knows savanna hernandez 291 uh savanna hernandez been on the show a number of times but by the way she's been on a lot of shows she's become a huge star savanna hernandez there she is the great savanna hernandez she's i would say as far as on the ground immigration stories there's nobody better nope and there's only one salve as well i mean sav happens to be in the right place at the right time every time she travels which is which is

Which is ironic because her travel always gets disrupted. So it just goes to show that, you know, there's something there's something with her. But she's really good with covering immigration. You know, she's exposing black markets that have been on, you know, a thing for decades. But she's actually showing it in real time and showing how, you know, when the police come or ice comes, they have a really operate like a way of what do they do? They, like, pack everything up and then get out of the situation really quickly. And then oftentimes some of these big city police departments, they're complicit in it. Like, they'll turn away.

And she's exposing that. Yeah, that's amazing. Julio Rosas, 290. So Julio's also with the blaze, but Charlie and Julio knew each other from, like, the very beginning of turning point. So they go back at, like, 2012, 2013. Yeah, so Julio's a new addition to the team. And he was recently embedded with Board Patrol in Louisiana for Operation Catalua Crunch where he got a couple of the arrest happening in real time, some of the protesters. He was also in Mexico City recently covering that big Gen Z protest riot that erupted against this younger generation that are fed up with the cartels down there.

Yeah, well, and Julio was also, I think he was in Kenosha for. Kyle Rittenhouse. He was one of the journalists on the ground there. Next up, Bo Diddle, 292. He's a newer addition to the team. So there's our graphic, TPSA Welcomes, content creator, Bo Diddle. Bo, I remember when I saw some of his original content and he kind of does man on the street stuff.

He'll do protest stuff. He'll do all the things. But he's really good at man on the street, like getting people's reaction to current events. Absolutely. He's a personality, right? I mean, he's very observant and he loves asking questions. And that's one of his famous lines

when the left tries to deny him or block him. He'll just say, hey, I'm just out here asking questions. And he asked really objective questions. But he's just got that personality that everybody can identify with. Yeah. And then here's Kalim Dalmita at 293. So Kalin is, he's kind of an OG on the front lines crew. and I think if I'm not mistaken

he has the video with the most views of anybody besides Charlie I would say because Charlie had some like runaway ones but besides Charlie Kaelin had the most viral video and I think it was a it was a sort of a pedophile

like illegal illicit sex sting thing that he was involved in right? Yeah he's got a couple one of them involved a pedophile sting another one involved him I mean it was in that video that we just showed where he got knocked in the face. Oh, that's right.

He got assaulted. Yeah, and he was blood everywhere. So that was another one that went viral, but he's been on the ground. I mean, he was out there in L.A. at the beginning of the summer. He got flash panged by one of the cops because he was just in the midst of all the chaos. A new addition that I think she's doing an amazing job, 294. Monica Page.

She is our White House reporter and sort of D.C. She covers everything over kind of in the Acellic corridor for us, if you will. she's doing a phenomenal job and she's asked the president a bunch of questions but then she'll go out on the streets too yep yep yeah I mean she's primarily at the White House but you know if there's a protest happening or if there's like some sort

of man on the street interview that we want her to get we now have access to the Pentagon we're part of the new Pentagon Press Corps sorry Pentagon Press Corps and she will be covering that as well if there is any major breaking news happening last but not least and maybe I'm forgetting somebody but 295 this is Vicki

Richter. She's new on the team, right? Yep, Vicki Richter. She specializes in international exposés. We did a really good piece on Brazil, and it's alleged CCP ties and this narco-communism ties. And she's doing another one about the Islam takeover of the West. It's going to be coming out pretty soon. So stay tuned for that as well. Thanksgiving holds so many memories, and I'm sure it's the same for you. Right now there's a girl finding out she's pregnant. In the next couple of weeks, she's going to make a decision. And whatever decision she makes will become her memory of this Thanksgiving for the

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because she's just chasing down these ice agents that are you know going after these protesters and rioters that are disrupting that national guard i think that might have been national that was national guard yes but that yeah that's i mean that was a wild scene and by the way you saw nick sorter getting uh assaulted calen getting assaulted i mean these reporters are putting themselves in harrowing positions to cover the stories that matter. I mean, the amount of courage they display on a daily basis is truly remarkable. And we are very proud and grateful to them here at Turning Point in the Charlie Kirk Show. Blake, I think you would make a really good front lines reporter.

I think it's time to send you out on the field. We got Brandon here. What do you want to cover? I always think of like, I like to read like papers and stuff. That doesn't sound very exciting. I'm reading about this bogus scientific study right here. during the brain i mean you are kind of like the token uh intellectual that we have around the white paper guy the white paper guy so because charlie was always we're not a think tank we're a battle tank

that was charlie's line um and then we hired blake and then you know we sort of had to you know find just kidding no i think i think that's uh this leads into my question though it's inspired by an actual question which is as you guys have grown how do you determine your editorial decisions where You're deploying these now nine reporters across the country. Well, it's a case-by-case basis. I mean, we're getting leads. Again, our reporters are embedded into these networks where they're hearing different stories that are about to break or whatever, right? So it just really depends.

You know, we'll look into protests and riot, potential protests and planned riots online to see how big they're actually going to get based on social media engagement. You know, we'll go on Reddit. We'll go on blue sky. You know, we're looking on. We're looking on Instagram. You read blue skies so we don't have to. Exactly. Exactly.

Yeah, that was Charlie. Grusome. What's that? Grusome. I know. It's dark out there. It'll destroy your soul over time. It really will, man.

Honestly. And but like simultaneously, like it's so unimpressive, right? Like you go on there and the content that they're talking about or stories are talking about. That's an interesting angle. So, so when you guys are diving into like the underworld, the underbelly of the modern left, you're saying you sort of you sort of realize the emperor has no clothes you're sort of realizing absolutely that's just how like unimpressive is as you said it is yeah i mean it's the same song over and over again right they they have the same talking points they're not evolving they're not changing their tune they're

not thinking outside of their box they're not letting anybody poke a hole in their argument so they stick in the same place over and over again and when you see them in the streets protesting they have the same chant over and over again right like uh Well, it shows coordination, too, that they're all chanting the same stuff. Yeah, and they're totally planned, right? Like, we see these meetings that are planned where they're teaching all of the protesters, the chants. They're teaching them how to not engage with press like us, right, or just they have preferred press. And they know you as well.

Oh, yeah. They know who you guys are. They know your pictures. They have your images. Well, they love Bo. They love Bo out there because anytime Boe is on the street, you have, like, five volunteers. volunteers, right? Volunteers, quote unquote, surrounding him. Bo diddle. Yeah. Okay. Why? Why Bo? Because his content goes viral. So they know that if they talk to them, they're going to end up looking sort of like a clown.

Wow, that's fascinating. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, what are we doing from a, I mean, there's got to be a lot of stories that you don't pursue because they, they, it's just you can't get guarantee the safety of the team, right? Sure. Some of that. I mean, you guys are considering their well-being, obviously. And then reporters have discretion, whether they'll accept the story or if they want to pursue one. Maybe you guys have to say, no, no, no, don't do that one. Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, there's, look, my reporters will tell me all the time, like, please let me go do this. And I say, no, just because we need to make sure that, A, it's legit, and B, you're going to be safe. But, like, when Cho and 6-7 Kevin went to those book fairs, they would undercover. They were wearing masks. They had hidden cams on. So it just, again, it depends. It's a case-by-case basis.

My last question for you is if we have a lead, if somebody out there in the audience has a lead and they want frontlines to cover it, how did they get in touch with you guys? You could reach out to us, Frontlines at TPSA.com. So just that you have an email. Frontlines at TPSA.com.

There's a tip sheet on our Turning Point website, and you could always contact through X as well. Brandon Dre. Thank you so much. Thank you for having. You guys are doing amazing work. Thank you. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.